WEBVTT - 9 Door-Busting Facts About Holiday Shopping

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to part Time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what, Mary?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that? Gabe?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know? The kids didn't get Christmas presents until

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<v Speaker 2>the eighteen hundreds. Before then, and we're talking specifically England here,

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas was more of an adult holiday where wealthy patrons

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<v Speaker 2>gave servants gifts to celebrate the end of the harvest,

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<v Speaker 2>which workers celebrated with raucous parties. But by the early

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<v Speaker 2>nineteenth century, as more people moved into factory jobs, the

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<v Speaker 2>wild celebrations came to an end and Christmas became more

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<v Speaker 2>of a family celebration. And of course families often have children,

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<v Speaker 2>so the gifts went to them.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was basically like all crazy office parties before

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<v Speaker 3>this if your office was a farm, I guess. And

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<v Speaker 3>then it just became a much teamer and sweeter holiday

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<v Speaker 3>like the one we know now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can actually see this change happening in advertisements.

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<v Speaker 2>A historian named Joseph Wachelder discovered this while searching winter

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<v Speaker 2>issues of a London daily newspaper in eighteen hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen oh one. There was not a single ad for

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<v Speaker 2>children's presence, but by eighteen sixteen there were dozens.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so what kind of toys were popular back then?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually a few things that sound pretty fun. Chemistry sets, kaleidoscopes,

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<v Speaker 2>little toy theaters, and something called a quote genealogical and

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<v Speaker 2>chronological Game of England, which, if I'm going to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>seems more like a homework assignment than a game.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, feels like Shoots and Ladders meets Cold

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<v Speaker 3>Case Files. And now that I'm saying that out loud,

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<v Speaker 3>it sounds awesome, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, too bad you can't buy it anymore, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can, of course buy lots of other things, toys included.

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<v Speaker 2>And with the holiday shopping season kicking off, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to explore this very specific intersection between festivity and commerce.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a story with deep roots going all the way

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<v Speaker 2>back to ancient Rome, through medieval Germany, and even up

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<v Speaker 2>to modern day Philadelphia. So let's dive in. Hey there,

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<v Speaker 2>podcast listeners, welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm Gabe bluesy A,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm here with Mary, Philip, Sandy Will and Mango

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be with us today because they got lost at

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<v Speaker 2>the mall and over there in the booth dressed like

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<v Speaker 2>the Christmas tree from a Charlie Brown Christmas. That's our

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<v Speaker 2>friend and producer, Dylan Fagan. Way to get into the

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<v Speaker 2>holiday spirit there, Dylan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, I like how statuesque Dylan looks right like

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<v Speaker 3>he's just kind of leaning over with a single ornament

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<v Speaker 3>holding a few bunches of pine needles. It's very impressive,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I almost feel like he belongs in a

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<v Speaker 3>department store window.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually, if anyone from Macy's happens to be listening,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd be happy to rent you, Dylan for the holiday season,

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, get in touch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what five hundred dollars a day?

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<v Speaker 2>That seems fair well.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of which, let's talk about holiday window displays. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I did not know this before, but the holiday window

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<v Speaker 3>display is an all American creation that dates back to

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<v Speaker 3>the eighteen seventies. Window shopping itself had been a thing

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<v Speaker 3>for a while, and you know, it hadn't occurred to

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<v Speaker 3>me that there was a time when window shopping was

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<v Speaker 3>not a thing. But it was. And it's all because

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<v Speaker 3>of the inventions of plate glass and gas powered lamps.

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<v Speaker 3>So plate glass meant that shop owners could have these

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<v Speaker 3>huge windows that went the entire length of their store,

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<v Speaker 3>so they had a ton of space to show off

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<v Speaker 3>their goods, and the gas lighting made it all visible

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<v Speaker 3>even at night. So in late nineteenth century New York

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<v Speaker 3>window shopping was pretty competitive. Eye catching displays were a must,

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<v Speaker 3>and in eighteen seventy four Macy's, which back then just

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<v Speaker 3>had the one location in Manhattan, they claimed to have

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<v Speaker 3>introduced the holiday specific window display to entice those winter shoppers.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we know what this first display was.

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<v Speaker 3>Gabe, of course we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>One window had a collection of dolls from Europe. Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Another one recreated scenes from Uncle Tom's cabin. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how that was Christmas related, but apparently

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<v Speaker 3>it was. And other department stores followed suit, and they

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<v Speaker 3>actually kept adding to this idea with high tech extras

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<v Speaker 3>like Santa cruising along in a steam powered sleigh, which

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<v Speaker 3>sounds kind of amazing. But one of my favorite innovations

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<v Speaker 3>came from Lord and Taylor. In nineteen thirty eight. It

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<v Speaker 3>was an unseasonably warm November in New York and the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord and Taylor folks they wanted to get people into

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<v Speaker 3>the holiday spirit, so they emptied out the storefront windows

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<v Speaker 3>of merchandise, frosted the glass and blue bleached white cornflakes

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<v Speaker 3>so it looked like a blizzard. Love it, and they

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<v Speaker 3>piped the sound of howling winds out through speakers. I

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<v Speaker 3>love this so much because it's so creative, but also

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<v Speaker 3>it was the first time that merchandise wasn't featured in

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<v Speaker 3>a window. It was just about creating a mood in

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<v Speaker 3>order to increase sales. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing that department stores deserve credit for is the

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<v Speaker 2>man himself, Santa Claus. The Santa we know today is

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<v Speaker 2>a mashup of Nordic folklore about a man who punished

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<v Speaker 2>naughty kids and rewarded nice ones, plus Nicholas of Myra,

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<v Speaker 2>a saint non for being generous. As for the red

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<v Speaker 2>suit and beard, we have the eighteen twenty three poem

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<v Speaker 2>Twas the Night before Christmas to thank for that. Clement

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<v Speaker 2>Moore's poem described Santa as a quote jolly old elf

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<v Speaker 2>with a round belly, twinkling eyes and dimples, and that

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<v Speaker 2>image has stuck all this time, so, perhaps unsurprisingly, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not too long after that poem that Santa started showing

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<v Speaker 2>up during the shopping season. A lot of stores have

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<v Speaker 2>claimed to have the first live Santa. But one of

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<v Speaker 2>the earliest was from eighteen forty one at a dry

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<v Speaker 2>goods store in Philadelphia, and within five years there were

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<v Speaker 2>at least three other stores in Philly with their own

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Nick's.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not realize that Santa was in Philadelphia stores

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<v Speaker 3>before New York. I just always associate him with Mazie's

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<v Speaker 3>right from Miracle on thirty fourth Street, which we watch

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<v Speaker 3>every year at Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, as you should. And you know that

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<v Speaker 2>movie really solidified the connection between Santa and the Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>shopping season. But not every department store Santa was up

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<v Speaker 2>to snuff in those days. Many wore suits and beards

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<v Speaker 2>that were frayed and ill fitting. Others returned from their

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<v Speaker 2>breaks wreaking of cigarettes or alcohol, and some were incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>rude to the children who came to see them. And

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of behavior didn't sit right with a man

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<v Speaker 2>named Charles Howard. He was a farmer by trade, but

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<v Speaker 2>his true passion was his yearly role as a department

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<v Speaker 2>store Santa. Charles believed that kids deserved a better class

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<v Speaker 2>of Santa, so with his wife's blessing, he converted their

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<v Speaker 2>farmhouse near Rochester, New York into the world's first Santa

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<v Speaker 2>Claus training school. His first crop of students in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven consisted of just three hopeful Santas, but enrollments

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<v Speaker 2>steadily grew over time, and so did Charles's reputation as

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<v Speaker 2>a top tier Santa. For example, he actually served as

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<v Speaker 2>a Santa consultant during the filming of Miracle on thirty

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<v Speaker 2>Fourth Street, and in nineteen forty eight he was called

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<v Speaker 2>up to the big leagues to appear as Santa in

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<v Speaker 2>the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. That was and still is

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<v Speaker 2>the most high profile Santa gig in the country, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's one that Charles Howard proudly filled all the way

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<v Speaker 2>until nineteen sixty five, and even though he died a

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<v Speaker 2>year later, his name lives on The Charles W. Howard

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Claus School moved from New York to Michigan in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighties, and according to its website, they still

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<v Speaker 2>teach about three hundred aspiring Santas each year. The intensive

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<v Speaker 2>three day curriculum includes a crash course in Santa history

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<v Speaker 2>and tradition, as well as public relations and child SiGe ecology.

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<v Speaker 2>Hands on tutorial for maintaining a Santa suit and applying

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<v Speaker 2>the makeup, and even instruction on how to care for reindeer,

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<v Speaker 2>just in case a kid should ever ask.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're never going to be a great Scanta if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have your LinkedIn all polished up. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>so looking beyond the United States for a moment. Another

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<v Speaker 3>legendary holiday shopping tradition is the German Christmas market. If

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<v Speaker 3>you've ever seen a photo, you will know. They feature

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<v Speaker 3>twinkly lights, hand carved ornaments, these big hot mugs of

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<v Speaker 3>mould wine. It's cozy, it's fun, but they do have

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<v Speaker 3>a dark side as well. So German holiday markets date

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<v Speaker 3>back to the fifteenth century. The oldest one that's still

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<v Speaker 3>around today is in Dresden. It started in fourteen thirty four,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just incredible to think about that it's been

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<v Speaker 3>going that long. Series and over the centuries, these markets

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<v Speaker 3>spread all across Europe and they grew in size. But

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<v Speaker 3>as the nineteenth century rolled along, the markets began facing

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<v Speaker 3>competition from department stores, which sold mass produced toys and

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<v Speaker 3>other Christmas items at much lower prices. The department stores

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<v Speaker 3>actually forced a lot of markets out to the city

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<v Speaker 3>outskirts in the suburbs, and by the nineteen thirties, these

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<v Speaker 3>traditional markets were in severe decline.

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<v Speaker 2>And you said, this is Germany in the nineteen thirties, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I imagine this is when the dark part comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's when it gets dark. When

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<v Speaker 3>the Nazis seized power, they were fixated on this idea

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<v Speaker 3>of German greatness, and they wanted to change Christmas from

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<v Speaker 3>a religious holiday to one that just celebrated German heritage

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<v Speaker 3>as not Geo writes quote. When Adolf Hitler became Chancellor

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen thirty three, his newly empowered political party wasted

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<v Speaker 3>no time in transforming Christmas from a religious holiday devoted

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<v Speaker 3>to peace on Earth to a nationalist one that extolled

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<v Speaker 3>German heritage. Party officials inserted Nazi imagery into Nativity scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>filled advent calendars with party propaganda, and even rewrote Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>carols like Silent Night to de emphasize its Christian connotations.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically, reviving the Christmas market to showcase craftsmanship and

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<v Speaker 3>German tradition was a way to accomplish these goals. So

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<v Speaker 3>the Nazis moved to the Christmas markets from the suburbs

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<v Speaker 3>back to the city centers like to the heart of Berlin,

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<v Speaker 3>and they set really strict rules on what could be sold.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything had to be holiday related and German made, including ornaments,

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<v Speaker 3>gingerbread and toys. The stalls were also allowed to sell

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<v Speaker 3>very German things like brought worst and nothing like a

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<v Speaker 3>brought worst at Christmas? Am I right? And of course

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<v Speaker 3>because these were such popular gathering places, it was a

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<v Speaker 3>convenient place to feature speeches from Nazi leaders like Joseph Gerbels.

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<v Speaker 3>So the holiday market slowed down during World War Two,

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<v Speaker 3>but after the war, as European economies rebounded, the markets

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<v Speaker 3>did too, and while they kept the spirit of community

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<v Speaker 3>and Christmas, they got rid of that Nazi veneer that

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<v Speaker 3>had been tacked on. And today there are over three

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<v Speaker 3>thousand of them in Germany. And what's really great is

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<v Speaker 3>that people of German descent have brought these markets to

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<v Speaker 3>places all over the world, and so despite that dark

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<v Speaker 3>time in their past, they're really and they're a great

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<v Speaker 3>way to support independent businesses, artists and crafts people.

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<v Speaker 2>Which of course is you know, a great thing to

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<v Speaker 2>do during the holidays and at any time. Really, but

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<v Speaker 2>all right, we have to take a quick break. But

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back ancient Roman traditions and the origins

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<v Speaker 2>of the slinky, the walking spring toy that almost wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to part time genius. Okay, Mary, question for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a last minute shopper or do you make

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<v Speaker 2>a list, check it twice, and get everything taken care

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<v Speaker 2>of long before mid December.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I've ever purchased a Christmas gift before

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<v Speaker 3>December fifteenth, That, ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Is shocking to meet.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Yeah, well, part of it is that my mom's

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<v Speaker 3>birthday is December tenth, and so growing up, we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to even think about Christmas until after her birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's just stayed with me. Last year, I spent

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<v Speaker 3>to Umber twenty third in Macy's. No, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>deserve some sort of metal of valor for surviving that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was insane, but it was also kind of fun,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. It was just like there are so many

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<v Speaker 3>people and tourists. There was something kind of great. I

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<v Speaker 3>felt good about having procrastinated. How about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can imagine the energy that of the late

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<v Speaker 2>season shoppers there. But yeah, you know, I like to

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<v Speaker 2>thrift shop a lot. I'll go to flea markets, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go to antique stores. So I'm kind of picking stuff

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<v Speaker 2>up throughout the year. You know, if I see something,

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<v Speaker 2>I just have to have it. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I really have room for it, but maybe I can

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<v Speaker 2>pawn it off on someone else later in the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, is that technically regifting if you we've sort of

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<v Speaker 3>lot of yourself, You're not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if you buy it without the intention to

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<v Speaker 2>keep it, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's a great area.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very ethically gray area. No, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>it is. It's like it's curatorial acquisition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there we go. We'll go with that. That sounds

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<v Speaker 2>much nicer. Okay, all right, So we talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>origin of giving children gifts at Christmas time, which is

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<v Speaker 2>surprisingly recent, but the idea of winter holidays themselves actually

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<v Speaker 2>goes back millennia. Many ancient civilizations, including the Babylonians, Mesopotamians,

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<v Speaker 2>and Egyptians, had a festival celebrating the winter solstice, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was the Romans who cemented the idea of putting

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<v Speaker 2>up holiday decorations and exchanging presents. This was done during

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<v Speaker 2>the Saturnalia festival, which was held every year in mid

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<v Speaker 2>December as a way to honor Saturn, the god of

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<v Speaker 2>agriculture and the harvest. It was the most popular holiday

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<v Speaker 2>in ancient Rome, and it honestly sounds like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun. Folks decorated their houses with wreaths made of

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<v Speaker 2>holly and ivy, and there was music and singing, eating, drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>gift giving, and best of all, no one worked during Saturnalia,

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<v Speaker 2>not even the people. The Romans had enslaved.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, no work presence, NonStop partying. I'm in right, sign

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<v Speaker 3>me up.

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<v Speaker 2>But the best part is initially it was just that's

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<v Speaker 2>a one day affair, but over time it became a

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<v Speaker 2>whole week long event. On the last day of Saturnalia,

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<v Speaker 2>Romans would give each other small figures made of wax

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<v Speaker 2>wood or terra cotta called sigilla. It's widely believed this

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<v Speaker 2>is why we still give gifts during our holiday season.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so it was like little terracotta figures, but they

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<v Speaker 3>were the ticklemielmo of ancient Roma.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, speaking of holiday, it toys, my all time favorite,

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<v Speaker 3>mostly for the story behind it has got to be

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<v Speaker 3>the Slinky. It was a runaway or slink away hit

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen forty five, but it almost didn't happen. So

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen forty three, a mechanical engineer named Richard James

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<v Speaker 3>was at work in a Philadelphia shipyard. He accidentally knocks

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<v Speaker 3>the spring off a shelf, and instead of crashing to

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<v Speaker 3>the ground, the spring looked like it was walking, first

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<v Speaker 3>down to a stack of books, then to a table,

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<v Speaker 3>then to the floor, where it finally landed. That night,

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<v Speaker 3>Richard went home and told his wife Betty about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like, I think this could be a

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<v Speaker 3>to I would have loved to have heard that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with Betty. You would not believe what happened at work today.

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<v Speaker 3>I knocked a spring over and Betty was like, okay, honey. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>he was really excited and he thought this could be

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<v Speaker 3>a toy. Betty was actually the one who came up

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<v Speaker 3>with the name slinky later, and so Richard was so

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<v Speaker 3>excited about this. He built a machine that coiled wire

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<v Speaker 3>into a spiral, borrowed five hundred dollars, started a company,

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<v Speaker 3>and woila, this slinky was born.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and the rest is a toy history, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well almost, except no one was buying it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if you had never seen a slinky before, and you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know what it does, it doesn't necessarily catch her attention.

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<v Speaker 3>So in nineteen forty five, Richard went around to department

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<v Speaker 3>stores in Philadelphia trying to persuade them to stock his toy,

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<v Speaker 3>but no one was interested. Finally, he managed to convince

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<v Speaker 3>one department store, Gimbals, to include a slinky in their

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<v Speaker 3>holiday display. They priced them at one dollar, which is

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<v Speaker 3>around seventeen dollars today, which is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems like a lot for a coiled a medal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean I'm guessing the display at Gimbal's that's

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<v Speaker 2>when sales took off.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be great. But no, no, still, no. Richard

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<v Speaker 3>may have been a great inventor if you consider a

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<v Speaker 3>marketing a spring inventing it Okay, The problem was he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't really great at package design. The slinky just came

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<v Speaker 3>wrapped in plain parchment paper, so it just sat there

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<v Speaker 3>looking honestly, really boring among all these brightly colored holiday toys.

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<v Speaker 3>But Richard wasn't ready to give up. He believed in

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<v Speaker 3>his idea, so he asked Gimbals if he could do

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<v Speaker 3>a demonstration of how it worked. They agreed, and so

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<v Speaker 3>the week after Thanksgiving, he set up a ramp in

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<v Speaker 3>the store, put some slinkies up at the top, and

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<v Speaker 3>let them walk down, basically showing the thing that had

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<v Speaker 3>gotten him so excited in the first place. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>what worked. Within ninety minutes, Gimbals sold all four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>slinkies it had, and by the end of the holiday season,

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<v Speaker 3>Richard had sold twenty thousand slinkies across the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>One year later, he'd sold two hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>While So, I mean, you know, you got to give

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<v Speaker 2>the guy credit for persevering if nothing else right. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't invent it, but he noticed.

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<v Speaker 3>It the great noticer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there we go. Well, you know, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>we're in the nineteen forties, my next fact is about

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Club savings accounts, which some people probably used back

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<v Speaker 2>then to buy their slinkies. Are you familiar with these? Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>have you heard of this?

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<v Speaker 3>I am not.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not tell me, Okay, So Christmas Club started

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<v Speaker 2>in December nineteen oh nine when three shoe factory workers

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<v Speaker 2>walked into the Carlisle Trust Company in Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 3>That does I have to say, that does sound like

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<v Speaker 3>the setup to a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in this case, it was a business plan. Because

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<v Speaker 2>what these guys did is they pitched an idea to

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<v Speaker 2>the bank's treasurer, a guy named Merkle Landis. So they

0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.639
<v Speaker 2>wanted to open a joint bank account. And here's the

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<v Speaker 2>innovative part. Each week they planned to deposit money that

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<v Speaker 2>they had collected from themselves and from their fellow shoe

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<v Speaker 2>factory of friends. This account would earn in and then

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<v Speaker 2>right before Christmas the next year, they planned to withdraw

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.159
<v Speaker 2>the money and split the interest with everyone who had contributed.

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<v Speaker 2>So Landis thought this was an interesting idea, not just

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<v Speaker 2>for shoe factory workers, but for everybody. So he placed

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<v Speaker 2>an ad in the local newspaper for something he called

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<v Speaker 2>a Christmas Savings Club, offering three percent interest to anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who made steady deposits all year long. So the idea

0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.919
<v Speaker 2>was simple and familiar. In December, you would open an

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<v Speaker 2>account with a small deposit, and then over the next

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<v Speaker 2>fifty weeks you would add more money. In November you

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<v Speaker 2>could withdraw the money and the interest, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>take it out earlier you had to pay a fee.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so, besides the guys from the shoe factory did

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<v Speaker 3>anyone sign up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually, three hundred and fifty people signed up that

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<v Speaker 2>first year, and they saved an average of twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>dollars each, which is around nine hundred and fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in today's money.

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<v Speaker 3>And wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The program was so well received that the Carlisle

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<v Speaker 2>Trust kept it going the next year, and soon other

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<v Speaker 2>banks started doing the same thing, though not all of

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<v Speaker 2>them offered better interest rates or even interest at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Maintaining these special accounts cost the bank's money, but in

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<v Speaker 2>the long term they were a great way to reach

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<v Speaker 2>new customers. Early advertisements for Christmas clubs targeted families and

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<v Speaker 2>young professionals, you know, the most likely future customers for

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<v Speaker 2>car loans and mortgages, so it was a smart play

0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.639
<v Speaker 2>on the bank's part, and parents were also encouraged to

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<v Speaker 2>enroll their children in the clubs as a way to

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<v Speaker 2>teach them financial responsibility. The best part, though, is that

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<v Speaker 2>some banks even offered incentives for opening a Christmas savings account,

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<v Speaker 2>like membership cards or a free porcelain Christmas bill.

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<v Speaker 3>Woo Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 2>These gimmicks worked really well though, because in nineteen thirty five,

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<v Speaker 2>money taken from these accounts made up about ten percent

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<v Speaker 2>of all holidays spending, and by nineteen sixty five, approximately

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen million Americans were members of a local Christmas club.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, these days, credit cards are a far more

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<v Speaker 2>popular way to facilitate holiday spending and overspending, but believe

0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.879
<v Speaker 2>it or not, some banks and credit unions do still

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<v Speaker 2>offer holiday savings accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'd have to imagine that a lot of those

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<v Speaker 3>club cards were used on Black Friday, right, the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>shopping day of the year. And to unpack that origin,

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<v Speaker 3>we are going back to Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it is I think that's a third time now, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's wild how much Philadelphia has influenced holiday shopping.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they call it the City of Brotherly Love.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more like the City of Holiday Shopping. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>new slogan. If anyone from Philly is listening.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have that for free.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right. So let's go back to the nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 3>It's after World War Two, people have a little money,

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<v Speaker 3>and the day is after Thanksgiving. Are big holiday shopping days,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are also big for college football, and one

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<v Speaker 3>of the biggest games in the country is the annual

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<v Speaker 3>Army Navy Rivalry, which for many ye was played this

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday after Thanksgiving, right and that.

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<v Speaker 2>Game it's often held in Philly because that's halfway between

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<v Speaker 2>West Point and Annapolis exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's neutral territory. So in those days after Thanksgiving, suburbanites

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<v Speaker 3>and out of town football fans would flood the city

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<v Speaker 3>for the game, and stores took advantage of this extra

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<v Speaker 3>foot traffic by having sales, which the city promoted. It

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<v Speaker 3>became a big enough thing that eventually people began coming

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<v Speaker 3>to Philly just for the sales, not even for the football.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is, the local cops hated it because

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<v Speaker 3>the huge crowds meant they had to work twelve hour shifts,

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<v Speaker 3>So the police started calling it Black Friday, and in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty one some more marketing minded folks tried to

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<v Speaker 3>change it to Big Friday, but it was too late.

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<v Speaker 3>Black Friday was the name and it was here to stay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still the most profitable shopping day of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>and it spawned these spinoffs like Cyber Monday, Small Business Saturday,

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<v Speaker 3>and Giving Tuesday. Here is a crazy statistic. Last year,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and ninety seven million customers shopped either online

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<v Speaker 3>or in person on that handful of days. From Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 3>to Cyber Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, and I was one of them. Well, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of Thanksgiving Day, have you ever noticed that it never

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<v Speaker 2>falls on November twenty ninth or November thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I've noticed that. I just know

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<v Speaker 3>that Thanksgiving is always the fourth Thursday of November. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>But that wasn't always the case. Although Thanksgiving had been

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated since George Washington's time, it wasn't until eighteen seventy

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 2>that Congress declared it a recurring national holiday. The thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't have a fixed date. Presidents were technically allowed

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.720
<v Speaker 2>to set the date each year, but in practice, almost

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<v Speaker 2>all of them followed the tradition set by Abraham Lincoln,

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<v Speaker 2>which was that Thanksgiving fell on the last Thursday of November.

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<v Speaker 2>But I said almost all the presidents, because in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine, Franklin D. Roosevelt broke precedent by moving holiday

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<v Speaker 2>up by one week, setting off a huge controversy in

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the process. Now, the reason he did this is because

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving was set to fall late that year on November thirtieth,

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 2>and retailers were like, hey, this shortens the holiday shopping

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.919
<v Speaker 2>season and that's gonna hurt our bottom line. So they

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 2>asked Roosevelt to move the holiday up a week now.

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<v Speaker 2>FDR was sympathetic to this because he knew sales had

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<v Speaker 2>been in a decade long slump following the Great Depression,

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<v Speaker 2>so in August of thirty nine, he issued a proclamation

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<v Speaker 2>moving Thanksgiving from the last Thursday to the second to

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<v Speaker 2>last Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so, and then the retailers were happy. Everyone was happy.

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<v Speaker 3>No more problems, Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>If there were no problems, would I be telling you

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<v Speaker 2>this story. There were lots of problems. People hated this change.

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<v Speaker 2>A poll showed that sixty two percent of voters opposed it,

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<v Speaker 2>so thousands of people showed up at the White House

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<v Speaker 2>in protests that year.

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<v Speaker 3>What why were they so angry?

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<v Speaker 2>Some people argued that it was a latent abuse of

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<v Speaker 2>power by FDR, But also this last minute change was

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 2>super inconvenient. School breaks and college football games were timed

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 2>around Thanksgiving and already scheduled for the thirtieth and many

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>folks had already made travel plans to visit relatives for

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<v Speaker 2>the holiday. So in the end, only twenty three states

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<v Speaker 2>agreed to move the date. One of those states was

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey. However, the mayor of Atlantic City was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy named Charles White, and he was not a fan

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<v Speaker 2>of the President's so he said, okay, you can move

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<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving up a week, but that's not the real Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Frank'sgiving. And the name was of course a little

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>dig at FDR, but it caught on.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened the next year when Thanksgiving roles around.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thirty two states decided to celebrate on the Franksgiving date,

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<v Speaker 2>that is, the second to last Thursday in November, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was still a lot of confusion. For instance, have

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<v Speaker 2>you seen Holiday in the Bing Crosby movie where he

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<v Speaker 2>sings White Christmas?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, it's a great movie, aside from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the blackface of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But if you remember, it takes place in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty one, and there's a little scene where they show

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<v Speaker 2>a calendar with a cartoon turkey jumping back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>between the two thursdays, not really knowing when to land.

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 2>He actually gives up altogether and just kind of shrugs.

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<v Speaker 2>So the whole thing became this national headache slash joke,

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<v Speaker 2>and perhaps more importantly, the expected increase in sales never happened,

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<v Speaker 2>So in the spring of nineteen forty one, FDR admitted

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<v Speaker 2>he had made a mistake and promised that Thanksgiving would

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<v Speaker 2>go back to normal the following year. But there still

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<v Speaker 2>must have been some concern over shopping days, because that

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 2>same year, Congress passed a law officially making Thanksgiving the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth Thursday of November, meaning that, depending on the year,

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<v Speaker 2>the holiday is observed either on the last Thursday, as

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln intended, or the second to last Thursday, as retailers wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>But in either case, the latest it can ever be

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<v Speaker 2>is November twenty eighth.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh wow, I'm looking at a calendar right now, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what it looks like. In twenty thirty,

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 3>Thanksgiving will be on November twenty eighth, So everyone filed

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<v Speaker 3>us away, and several years from now you can think

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<v Speaker 3>of us. Well, I'm glad that we have that worked out.

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<v Speaker 3>But Gabe, before we go, how about we head down

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<v Speaker 3>to the rec center and help any listeners who might

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<v Speaker 3>still be looking for that perfect holiday gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the gift I'm going to recommend for everyone

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<v Speaker 3>on your Christmas list. It is a trash picker. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what that is, Gabe.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, It's like a grabber claw right, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a long grabber with a handle, and you can

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<v Speaker 3>use it to pick up small objects from the ground,

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<v Speaker 3>including trash. And the reason I think this is such

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<v Speaker 3>a great gift as well. First of all, it's very affordable.

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 3>You can get it at any home improvement store. You

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 3>can get it at your local hardware store, which is

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:05.959
<v Speaker 3>where I got mine a couple of years ago. But

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 3>it's also a great way to start doing fun activities

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 3>with your friends and family. Everyone get your trash pickers,

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 3>go out and do a little impromptu cleanup of your

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 3>local park. You don't have to wait for someone to

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 3>organize it. You can just do it yourself or go

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 3>down your block. There's always trash. There's trash everywhere you

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<v Speaker 3>guys know, I'm really passionate about garbology. But it's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fun. You can do it with kids, you

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<v Speaker 3>can do it with friends. It would be a great

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 3>first date, I think, and you may end up learning

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about the world around you inadvertently. Like my

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 3>kid and I were out picking up trash in the

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 3>park a few weeks ago and we realized that in

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 3>our neighborhood, Corona is the beer of choice. We could

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<v Speaker 3>tell that from the bottle caps. Do I need to

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<v Speaker 3>know that? No, but I do know it, and I'm

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 3>glad that I do. So, if there's someone in your

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 3>life who enjoys a clean environment and learning obscure things

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 3>about the world around them, a trash picker, put a

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 3>big bow on it. They're gonna love it. So gay,

0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>what do you recommend.

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<v Speaker 2>Your recommendation was a way to pick up trash, and

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>my recommendation is actual trash. I recommend that you give

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<v Speaker 2>an old wall calendar to someone that you love this year.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is because of leap years, and because time

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<v Speaker 2>is a flat circle, those dates on the calendar, they

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 2>eventually match up again. So it might take you know,

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>eleven years or so, but those old one time use

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>wall calendars will come around again. So, for example, in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six, you can reuse any calendar from just

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<v Speaker 2>for example nineteen seventy, nineteen eighty one, nineteen eighty seven,

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight. It'll be just as useful as a

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six calendar, but with a much funnier, more

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>outdated design and branding.

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>On it.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's an Alf fan in your life, for instance,

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 2>or maybe a Beanie Baby lover, you know from the nineties,

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 2>they can relive those glory days with an old Wall calendar.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually tried red watching Alf recently. It doesn't. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't hold up.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, yeah, I'd say it holds up. I

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>mean as much as it ever did, right, I do

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you know I have a soft spot for the time

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>in American history where you could have a prime time

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>sitcom about an alien puppet basically starring an alien puppet,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody tuned in, millions of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm a cat person, and so Alf is

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<v Speaker 3>a little difficult for me just to kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of say that, although to his credit he curbed that,

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, for for the entire series. I don't believe

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>he eats a single cat ast.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he just threatened. He threatens to. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>so I hope this is helpful to everyone who's been listening.

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Of course it is. If you're standing there, if you're

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 3>like Will and Mango and you're trapped in a mall

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 3>and you don't know what to buy, leave them all,

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<v Speaker 3>get out of there and go get an old Wall calendar.

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<v Speaker 3>And a trash picker. Yeah there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, use your use your trash picker to pick a

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>wall calendar out of the trash and gift it to

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<v Speaker 2>someone you love. And on that note, there is one

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>more gift we have to talk about, and that's today's trophy. Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Since you shared the inspiring story of the little slinky

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>that could, I think you deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, thank you, And of course all the credit

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 3>really goes to Richard and Betty James, and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>the entire city of Philadelphia. Anyway, we are busy working

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<v Speaker 3>on episodes for twenty twenty six. If there is a

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<v Speaker 3>that is a wrap for today. This episode was written

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<v Speaker 3>by our good pal Marissa Brown. Thank you Marissa, Will

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<v Speaker 3>and Mango will be back next week and in the

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<v Speaker 3>meantime from Will, Mango, Dylan, Gabe, and myself, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Part Time Genius is a production of Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>It is hosted by my good pal Will Pearson, who

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<v Speaker 1>I've known for almost three decades now. That is insane

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I'm the Utaco host, Mangeshatikular aka Mango. Our

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to fix that in post. Our writer is

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