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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive one, home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I

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Speaker 1: am Dale Lally. He is Matt Williams, and Matt you

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Speaker 1: sent me this. Uh uh weren't at mid season defensive

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Speaker 1: line rankings. Just as from Brandon. It's kind of the

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Speaker 1: best line expert out there in the media. He does

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Speaker 1: a lot of work with offensive defensive line coaches and

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Speaker 1: all the clinics, things like that. Really well spoken. Um.

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Speaker 1: Once in a while he puts, you know, I subscribed

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Speaker 1: to his service and know him a little bit. He's

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Speaker 1: really really good. Only deals with Liman oh, Liman d

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Speaker 1: Lyman and um. This was his mid season ranking the

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Speaker 1: defensive fronts, so he has his tier one groupings. Here

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Speaker 1: is in which he calls elite pass rushing defensive lines

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Speaker 1: number one. He is the Cowboys. I get it. I

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Speaker 1: get it too. We just talked about this though. With

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Speaker 1: the team is now running the ball more. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: got run on last week. Yeah, I mean they traded

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, penetrating upfield guys speaky, which as you see,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles just signed Linvill, Joseph, some of these nose

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Speaker 1: tackles better. Uh yeah, put the pizza teams. You're realizing that,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, hey wait a second, we can't stop the run.

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Speaker 1: We can rush the passer all day long, we can't

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Speaker 1: stop the run three and fifty. Hopefully it might right now.

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Speaker 1: We'll put him in there and plug up the plug

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Speaker 1: things up. Interesting. I mean, these trends are they happened quick? Uh?

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Speaker 1: He has the Eagles at number two. I see that

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Speaker 1: with Hassan Reddick, Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave, Josh Robert Quinn.

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Speaker 1: What I like about them? I mean the spectrum of

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Speaker 1: how difference Jordan Davis is Reddick. I wonder if Davis

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Speaker 1: is even coming back this year. If they you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a distinct poshibility. Yeah. Uh. Number three

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Speaker 1: is the Bills with Rousseau at Oliver, Jordan Phillips one Miller.

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Speaker 1: Teams have been running the ball against them a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Will they live in nickel two? I wonder if they're

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Speaker 1: readjusting how they look at life, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: they don't have I mean they have some big body guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Milana has been out for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Did you see, by the way, the forecast for Buffalo

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Speaker 1: on Sunday? You texted it to me. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was a typo. When three to six feet of snow

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Speaker 1: Cleveland is playing Buffalo snow teams. But by like nine

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Speaker 1: not in the snow, and they don't run the ball

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Speaker 1: well to begin. Let's say that really helps the Browns. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wonder I wonder how much the line on that

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Speaker 1: But if you're still if it's still a snowstorm while

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Speaker 1: you're going and you just can't keep it, just snows

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Speaker 1: then you don't know if there's much you can do

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Speaker 1: are perfect for that that neighborhood. But their running game isn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the front. Well the way, what are the what are

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Speaker 1: very good playing all these crazy fronts. Uh. Three of

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Speaker 1: Nasty and physical too. Number eight the Vikings. Huh again,

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Speaker 1: ten is the Jaguars developing. Yeah, but yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: true number one guy. Like they got Chubbs the number two, right,

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Speaker 1: Matta Bouquet and Justin Houstonka um, a Jobo might play

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Speaker 1: thought they were like fifteen ish. Does he have reader

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Speaker 1: He has readers slashes Zach Carter, do you mind reading?

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