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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Thursday, Dan and the Dan
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Speaker 2: would like to be referred to as Mary Fritz Smiths.
Speaker 3: Too much trouble.
Speaker 2: It's not Mary fritzmis. You don't even celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 5: Actually, growing up.
Speaker 3: We had like a fake fireplace in our part with
Speaker 3: like a little red light bulb where it looked like
Speaker 3: a fake fire. We had stockings and matchbox cars and
Speaker 3: McDonald's gift certificates in our stockings.
Speaker 6: We did a lot.
Speaker 3: We played Perry Como music. We watched all the Christmas carsons.
Speaker 3: We did probably more Christmas things.
Speaker 6: Than a honk to think about it. Those matchbox cars,
Speaker 6: they're awesome.
Speaker 3: And hot wheels was all great.
Speaker 2: Hot wheels they were great. They were so cool. I
Speaker 2: kept thinking, when is somebody going to take those hot
Speaker 2: wheels and make actual cars that look like the hot wheels?
Speaker 2: And it took a while, but you know, some of
Speaker 2: these car manufacturers did try to emulate that because a
Speaker 2: lot of times what happens when you're growing up you
Speaker 2: see a car, but you can't afford it, and then
Speaker 2: as you get older and you can't afford it, then
Speaker 2: you might buy a Transam or a Corvette or a Portie.
Speaker 2: But when you're growing up, you can't. There's so many
Speaker 2: great cars that you see and you're like, I want that,
Speaker 2: And I remember, you know a friend of mine wanted
Speaker 2: a Lincoln Continental Mark three that had the tire encasement
Speaker 2: in the bag. And he wanted a late blue Lincoln
Speaker 2: Continental Mark three. And then I see him like twenty
Speaker 2: five years later and he's driving it, and I'm going, oh,
Speaker 2: be damn, you got your Lincoln Continental Mark three.
Speaker 6: You're yes, Marvid, what.
Speaker 4: Do you want to be?
Speaker 7: When he grew up, there's only a couple occupations that
Speaker 7: goes that car.
Speaker 2: So all right, it's an hour or two on this Thursday.
Speaker 2: Chris Collinsworth will join us on loan from Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 2: The Pennick's Cousins promotion benching. That was a big deal
Speaker 2: yesterday and Kirk Cousins handled it just like you thought
Speaker 2: he would. He'd be like, all right, I'm there to
Speaker 2: help him and Michael Pennix Junior with three games to go.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it's a soft landing because
Speaker 2: it's still playing against an NFL team, but a home
Speaker 2: game against the Giants certainly helps. Now, if he doesn't
Speaker 2: play well against the Giants at home, that's when and
Speaker 2: I think this is fluid. I don't think this is
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix is our starter the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: And I might be in the minority here because it
Speaker 2: felt like a lot of analysts said, oh, they're not
Speaker 2: going to go back to Kirk.
Speaker 6: They are.
Speaker 2: They will if they need to because you can still
Speaker 2: win this division. This isn't the Raiders or the Giants
Speaker 2: some of these other teams. They have a chance to
Speaker 2: win the division and host a playoff game. You got
Speaker 2: football coming up tonight, the Broncos at the Chargers. The
Speaker 2: Chargers are favored by three.
Speaker 6: Good morning.
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Speaker 2: We'll get phone calls coming up. And at the end
Speaker 2: of the last hour, I'm walking by Pauli and PAULI goes,
Speaker 2: if Christian McCaffrey's career ended, now it see a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer, And I thought, okay, random, and then I
Speaker 2: realized that PAULI probably wanted to revisit Tiki Barber's numbers
Speaker 2: with the JUNT.
Speaker 6: I think Tiki Barber's a Hall of Fame running back.
Speaker 6: You're in the minority, yes I am.
Speaker 2: But if I'm going to compare his numbers to Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's close. Now, McCaffrey had three incredible years.
Speaker 2: But let's look at career rushing yards sixty three hundred
Speaker 2: almost sixty four hundred yards for Christian McCaffrey, Teeki Barber
Speaker 2: ten thousand career receptions, five point twenty four for McCaffrey,
Speaker 2: five eighty six for Tiki. Now he played two more seasons.
Speaker 2: I think he played ten McCaffrey's at eight fifteen hundred
Speaker 2: yard rushing seasons McCaffrey zero. Tiki had three two thousand
Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage. Tiki had three seasons, Christian McCaffrey had two.
Speaker 8: Yes, point, I'm not saying McCaffrey's going to quit the sport,
Speaker 8: but you could see with this degenitive type stuff, he
Speaker 8: has a future in the media possibly or something like that.
Speaker 8: Would he get credit if his career ended early due
Speaker 8: to injury.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a Terrell Davis type situation because
Speaker 2: he did win a couple of Super Bowls, was instrumental
Speaker 2: two thousand yards rushing. I still go back to Ricky Waters.
Speaker 2: I thought Ricky Waters, he was kind of there with
Speaker 2: Roger Craig. You know, they started this whole hybrid where
Speaker 2: Marshall Falk. I think those guys just felt like they
Speaker 2: were going to run. And Ricky Waters had ten thousand
Speaker 2: yards rushing and he had four hundred and sixty seven catches.
Speaker 2: Fred Taylor had eleven thousand rushing yards, didn't have a
Speaker 2: lot of catches. But you know, the running back is
Speaker 2: tricky because now it feels like you're grading them differently
Speaker 2: than you did before the receptions that's paramount. Now you're
Speaker 2: looking at yards from scrimmage. And I think that maybe
Speaker 2: where voters go because it's really hard to differentiate between,
Speaker 2: you know, somebody who's doing something now as opposed to
Speaker 2: the way they did it in the seventies or the eighties.
Speaker 2: And I always thought you got to ten thousand yards,
Speaker 2: you're a Hall of Famer. I don't know that's not
Speaker 2: the case anymore, because Tiki's got that, Fred Taylor's got that.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you're gonna you know.
Speaker 2: So Tiki, Ricky and Fred Taylor they all have over
Speaker 2: ten thousand yards.
Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, you mentioned Ladanian Tomlinson being underrated in eleven seasons.
Speaker 8: Thirteen thousand, six hundred and eighty four rushing yards, you're
Speaker 8: going in the Hall of Fame right there. He also
Speaker 8: had six hundred and twenty four.
Speaker 2: Receptions, and I was looking at his numbers. He's second
Speaker 2: in career touchdowns to Emmett. I think he's got like
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty touchdowns, maybe one hundred and sixty.
Speaker 2: He had one hundred and forty five rushing touchdowns, so
Speaker 2: I mean you're at one hundred and sixty touchdowns. But
Speaker 2: he kind of did it where you know, you thought
Speaker 2: of the Chargers and you're like, oh, okay, they're going
Speaker 2: to lose in the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 6: That's one of those.
Speaker 2: If he goes to the Super Bowl, plays well in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, then it elevates his status there. And
Speaker 2: it's blasphemous to say, like, let me compare Ladanian Tomlinson
Speaker 2: to Emmett Smith. They were different running backs. Emmett was
Speaker 2: just going to get the ball and get you yards.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many catches that he had in
Speaker 2: his career, but he three hundred catches. Maybe Ladanian Tomlinson
Speaker 2: feels like a more complete back than Emmett Smith. Although
Speaker 2: if I have to get a yard, Emmitt Smith on
Speaker 2: the short list of running backs that I wanted.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul Emma Smith had five hundred career receptions, but
Speaker 8: it was you know, he had a bunch of years
Speaker 8: where he caught fifty and sixty balls in his prime.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Four best rushing seasons for Christian McCaffrey, he had a
Speaker 2: total of five thousand yards. Tiki's four best rushing seasons.
Speaker 2: I mean he had eighteen hundred, sixteen hundred, fifteen hundred,
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred. That's sixty four hundred yards. But here's part
Speaker 2: of the problem is he had the fumbling issues and
Speaker 2: also they win the Super Bowl the year after he retires,
Speaker 2: and that hurt him. But is McCaffrey a Hall of
Speaker 2: Famer right now?
Speaker 6: No, he's not.
Speaker 2: No, he he feels like a Hall of famer, just
Speaker 2: the numbers aren't there. We'll talk to Chris Collinsworth about that.
Speaker 2: And by the way, he's not going to retire at least,
Speaker 2: I don't think. I still think he's trying to play.
Speaker 2: Just throwing that out there, all right. A couple of
Speaker 2: phone calls Luke and Charlotte. Hi, Luke, what's on your
Speaker 2: mind today?
Speaker 9: Hi guys, thanks for taking my call. I had to
Speaker 9: fill in the blank and you can either play or
Speaker 9: I'll just give it to you. Only blank is worse
Speaker 9: than losing to Craft in Bird States.
Speaker 6: Marvin, did you want to play Nobody you? Wow? Or
Speaker 6: Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2: Dougie Fresh at a press conference where he was talking
Speaker 2: about they needed to schedule up, they need to have
Speaker 2: better I guess games opponents. They've only won two games,
Speaker 2: and then they were playing Michigan Tech and they're a
Speaker 2: Division two school, and I think people thought that he
Speaker 2: was referring to them as nobody You. Well, they lost
Speaker 2: to Michigan Tech and they lost by two I think
Speaker 2: at home, and I think Doug wasn't on his radio
Speaker 2: show on Fox Sports, and people wondered after the game,
Speaker 2: why aren't you on during your national radio show? But yes,
Speaker 2: that's a nobody university. Doug hasn't had a good week.
Speaker 2: Chefty called him out after Doug called him out over
Speaker 2: Sacramento State of all places in their NIL funds, which
Speaker 2: I think Doug was probably right about this, that did
Speaker 2: Sacramento State have fifty million dollars in NIL money? Maybe
Speaker 2: down the road, maybe they have pledges for that. But
Speaker 2: I don't know why Doug got caught up in Sacramento
Speaker 2: State and calling out Adam Schefter, and then Schefter tweets
Speaker 2: out Wisconsin green Bay's standings where they are in the
Speaker 2: Horizon League with two wins. It's like, Doug, get off
Speaker 2: the internet and get back in the gym.
Speaker 8: Yes, I was watching the ESPN scroll during Sports Center
Speaker 8: after the Bowl game last night, and on the scroll
Speaker 8: which includes like North Carolina beats whoever big college basketball games,
Speaker 8: men's college basketball, Gottlieb Green Bay lose to Division two
Speaker 8: Michigan Tech. A straight loss for Gottlieb's Green Bay team.
Speaker 8: That was on the ESPN scroll of news last night.
Speaker 2: How many coaches names are attached to their team on
Speaker 2: the scroll zero generally. I mean, that's definitely a shot
Speaker 2: to you know, for Schefty, that's a jab from ESPN.
Speaker 2: For Doug, that's not right journalistically, that's not right. Got
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a good shot Yeah, yes, Todd.
Speaker 3: Unless it's some type of milestone win there there should
Speaker 3: be no reason to possibly put the coach's name next
Speaker 3: to the result.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't like if Tom Izzo wins his one thousandth game. Okay,
Speaker 2: Doug lost to Michigan Tech like Gottlieb and Wisconsin Green
Speaker 2: Bay loot.
Speaker 6: Like, that's not fair to Doug. That made the bottom line.
Speaker 2: Come on, mothership, Schefty can take care of himself.
Speaker 6: He doesn't need you. Dang, here's one for you.
Speaker 2: David Montgomery's preseason prop bet for rushing yards was seven
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five and a half. David Montgomery season
Speaker 2: is over. He has seven hundred and seventy five rushing.
Speaker 10: Gar Steat of the day, the day, stat of the day.
Speaker 4: Here comes that?
Speaker 6: What stat of the day?
Speaker 2: Dang, that's a bad beat, Like, you got seven seventy five.
Speaker 2: You got three games to go. Man, I'm gonna wait.
Speaker 2: He's limping. Wait he's leaving the game. Wait he's out
Speaker 2: for the year.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tom, can you go back to all the plays
Speaker 3: where the ball was spotted the challenge Eddy half Y
Speaker 3: had somewhere you could pick up.
Speaker 6: I need a yard, I need a yard.
Speaker 11: One.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how much money you had to.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're that much of a degenerate and
Speaker 2: you go, hey, you know I'm loading up on David
Speaker 2: Montgomery seven hundred and seventy five yards? Yeah, what are
Speaker 2: you putting down? A couple of dimes? Now you go
Speaker 2: back and ask somebody to NFL film.
Speaker 6: Say, can you can you squeeze out one yard? I'll
Speaker 6: give you.
Speaker 2: I'll give you five hundred dollars. Let me see what
Speaker 2: do we have here, Steve and Huntington Beach. Hey, Steve,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11: Hey? Morning? Damn you and the boys taking time caller
Speaker 11: a long time listener five nine seventy And.
Speaker 6: You're not related to Gus in La are you, Steve?
Speaker 11: No, sir, But Gus is the homie.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 11: I just gotta fight the faith bet for Mary Fristmas
Speaker 11: over there for tonight's game and any other Dannet that
Speaker 11: wants to get in.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, let me let me hear your proposal.
Speaker 11: Uh, Mary Fritzmas, would you like to get in on
Speaker 11: a plight of the face bet Chargers over the Broncos
Speaker 11: And we're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So straight up that who's going to win tonight's game?
Speaker 11: Right up, straight up, but a little caveat. You gotta
Speaker 11: wear the Justin Herbert football is Fun shirt as well.
Speaker 3: I will look for that. I know I have it
Speaker 3: somewhere in my closets I probably can't squeeze into. Hopefully
Speaker 3: I won't come to that, but I will take you
Speaker 3: up on that. I have to go all in and believe.
Speaker 2: My let's ruy, let's right, let's ride all right, Steve,
Speaker 2: you got a bed us tomorrow pie to the phase
Speaker 2: question mark.
Speaker 8: We we have any of those extra shirts around here?
Speaker 3: Something took and find I'll.
Speaker 2: See if, I'll see if the backroom guys. Oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, I just heard from tyrak tireraq dot com
Speaker 2: just said, hey, are you handing out most valuable Dane
Speaker 2: and most valuable backroom guy?
Speaker 6: And I said, well, I forgot all about he goes.
Speaker 2: Give away a set of tires to the most valuable
Speaker 2: Dant and the most valuable backroom guy and you can
Speaker 2: vote on this and we'll have the results tomorrow at
Speaker 2: the end of the show. So tireraqt just said, hey,
Speaker 2: Christmas Spirit, you guys have been great and uh, you
Speaker 2: go to Danpatrick dot com and vote on Now you're
Speaker 2: not gonna know, maybe the brgs, but you can vote
Speaker 2: on the Danets. But it'll be funny just to have
Speaker 2: the names of the backroom guys on there.
Speaker 12: Of a sudden, this contest got a lot more serious
Speaker 12: than years past. There's uh set of tires on the
Speaker 12: line here.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 12: Last year, it's like, I don't really care if I'm
Speaker 12: wan know whoa whoa whoa Wait, hold up, we got tires.
Speaker 6: Now, set of tires. Hold up?
Speaker 2: And I'm not handing out the least valuable Danet this year?
Speaker 6: Oh why? Because it's always toied.
Speaker 3: I definitely get the least and then it's just a
Speaker 3: matter of whether I would.
Speaker 12: Get both Yes, And you've gotten both yes in the
Speaker 12: same year. Yes, you've been the least valuable.
Speaker 3: It's a wild thing to bilitar.
Speaker 5: So you did that.
Speaker 6: It's like being coach of the Year and being fired.
Speaker 2: You know, did that happen to George carl I gave
Speaker 2: his Coach of the year Dwayne Casey, Nick Nurse. They
Speaker 2: got Coach of the year and you've been fired. Okay,
Speaker 2: So you can vote on this and the winner gets
Speaker 2: his set of tires from Tire Wreck, Yes, pauling.
Speaker 8: I wish I knew this in January. I would have
Speaker 8: tried a lot harder this year. I didn't tell I
Speaker 8: would have give it some effort.
Speaker 2: I just tire Reck just you know, Dan from Tireract
Speaker 2: just said, hey, let's spice this up a little bit.
Speaker 2: I forgot about you know, most valuable Dan in. I
Speaker 2: truly forgot about it. But we've salvaged it. You have
Speaker 2: today and tomorrow to vote on the back room and
Speaker 2: most valuable Dan.
Speaker 6: Yes, Paul.
Speaker 8: If it's a tie, does each person get two tires?
Speaker 6: Just saying the offering question, Yeah, okay, sure you can decide.
Speaker 6: Do I want front tire?
Speaker 3: Yes, Tom, I'm supposed to kind of replace all the
Speaker 3: tires at once, so that's not much of a gift.
Speaker 6: Too tires. It throws everything off with the alignment. I know,
Speaker 6: we're just we're just joking.
Speaker 3: Then you've got to be generous and do too soon.
Speaker 2: You don't even need to worry about it. I just
Speaker 2: don't want to wear a foot Forward's fun shirt tomorrow
Speaker 2: like Todd's worried about. I get too tired. You're you're
Speaker 2: not winning, Tom, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I don't even take my copper car warks.
Speaker 2: How about we take a break. Chris collins Worth will
Speaker 2: join us. We're back after this in the Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: That'll be the Bucks and the Cowboys kick off at
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Speaker 2: In the meantime, Hi, Tom, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 14: I wanted to talk about some of the things you
Speaker 14: were talking about yesterday. With the ratings in the NBA.
Speaker 14: I think he cannot be underestimated to the agree to
Speaker 14: which politics enters. And the example I want to give
Speaker 14: is the guy I'm getting tired of is Popovich down
Speaker 14: in san Antonio, and I think even unprovoked, he goes
Speaker 14: off on who he supports. And I think the NBA
Speaker 14: is taking the wrong side of this. It's pretty evident
Speaker 14: where they stand politically, and it goes back to Michael
Speaker 14: Jordan's statement against by sneakers too. And until they get
Speaker 14: rid of Adam Silver, who has clearly taken the other
Speaker 14: side of the political aisle, I think they're going to
Speaker 14: have problems. And it also if I could get one
Speaker 14: other shot in at Popovich is not even a relevant
Speaker 14: voice anymore, and Steve Kerr is in the same category.
Speaker 14: Two priminent coaches that I think unprovoked at talking politics.
Speaker 2: Okay, but let me and thanks for the phone call.
Speaker 6: Go back to Collin.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: You know, when you had.
Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernick, the political venom that was available then towards
Speaker 2: the NFL and nobody's gonna watch and nobody's going to
Speaker 2: go to games?
Speaker 6: Where did that go?
Speaker 2: So there's been push from both sides here in sports,
Speaker 2: and now it's a valid point. You can be turned
Speaker 2: off by Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich, but NFL owners
Speaker 2: and they were pushing back in a different direction with
Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 12: Yes, I'm guessing that Tom would be perfectly okay if
Speaker 12: another coach came out and support of the side.
Speaker 6: That he would be.
Speaker 12: It's no different than people like Taylor Swift should shut up,
Speaker 12: but I love when Kid Rock speaks his mind. It's
Speaker 12: the exact same thing. The hypocrisy of it. It happens constantly. Yeah,
Speaker 12: on both sides. Absolutely, yes, Paul.
Speaker 8: True without picking sides. Anytime any league leans a certain way,
Speaker 8: you are in danger of aliening half of your audience,
Speaker 8: whether you agree or disagree with that side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the NFL was too woke, right, nobody left, they're watching.
Speaker 2: It's just the NBA is down and people are gonna
Speaker 2: kick them when they're down. Let's welcome in, Chris collins
Speaker 2: Worth Sunday Night Football. Come on in and join the conversation. There, Chris,
Speaker 2: good to.
Speaker 10: People just tell me to shut up all the time.
Speaker 10: It doesn't matter what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: Do you look at the comments after a game?
Speaker 10: Negative? No, no, no, no.
Speaker 6: I do not did you it's did you?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 10: Of course you know that. When I first got on
Speaker 10: social media, I had four followers, and my kids told
Speaker 10: me that I had to sign up, So I signed up,
Speaker 10: and I signed up and so after the game, I
Speaker 10: was sitting there and I had four people, so I
Speaker 10: settle over to all of them. You know, I went
Speaker 10: back on and hey, how you guys do it? I
Speaker 10: thought that's what social media was. I had no idea,
Speaker 10: and they're like, Dad, no, you just you just get
Speaker 10: on because and then they started showing me how to
Speaker 10: do it. The thing that I found in our business
Speaker 10: is that generally people are very very nice. I mean,
Speaker 10: we travel all over the country, we go in they
Speaker 10: want to talk to you, they want to talk you know,
Speaker 10: blah blah blah. Hey love your show, great, this is
Speaker 10: a great But it's still like that one in whatever.
Speaker 10: It would be one in fifty one in fifty that goes,
Speaker 10: hey aren't you Chris collins Worth?
Speaker 6: And I like yeah.
Speaker 10: And generally the firstquestion is why do you hate the
Speaker 10: whatever their favorite team is? Right, That's that's the first one.
Speaker 10: And you know, then it's something along the lines that
Speaker 10: would you know, honestly, I think you suck And it
Speaker 10: just like it hits you like a ton of bricks
Speaker 10: because you're so used to people being so nice and
Speaker 10: coming up and and and being friendly and saying nice things.
Speaker 10: And then it's like the rest of the day, you're
Speaker 10: walking around kicking the can down the you you're like
Speaker 10: all bummed out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause I and I'm not on social media, but
Speaker 2: you know, we have a social media presence with the show.
Speaker 2: I think if there's something that we make a mistake
Speaker 2: on or I made a mistake on and somebody wants
Speaker 2: to correct me, I'm fine with that. But the other stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, I appreciate people listening or watching, but I
Speaker 2: don't need to read your appreciation for the show. You're
Speaker 2: you're already you know, showing me appreciation with that. But
Speaker 2: then you'll get people saying, I hate you so much,
Speaker 2: but I watch every day.
Speaker 6: I mean, damn, thank you, that's what I just thank you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate that your reaction to Kirk Cousins not only being benched,
Speaker 2: but to have a rookie who hasn't played much with
Speaker 2: three games to go.
Speaker 10: We did an Atlanta game early on against Kansas City
Speaker 10: I think it was, and even then Dan, they were
Speaker 10: talking about, oh my goodness, we've got one here, and
Speaker 10: they you know, I'm sure they haven't come out and
Speaker 10: publicly you know, done that, but they were really excited
Speaker 10: about what they were seeing and they really did not
Speaker 10: want to play him. They really wanted to, you know,
Speaker 10: be the whole Jordan love. You know, just let him
Speaker 10: sit and let them watch and let him learn and
Speaker 10: and you know, because there's a whole cadence to being
Speaker 10: the quarterback. You know, you have to go to you know,
Speaker 10: the press steel on Wednesday or whenever that thing is
Speaker 10: survive that you have to do it after the game.
Speaker 10: You've got a million different obligations. It's almost like being
Speaker 10: the head coach of the of the team, and it's hard,
Speaker 10: and so then you have to budget your time and
Speaker 10: generally quarterbacks are going in on their off day on
Speaker 10: Tuesday and learning the game plan and you know, it's
Speaker 10: just there's a lot that goes into it and seeing
Speaker 10: the live defenses and what they're going to do, and
Speaker 10: then what they're going to do to him will be
Speaker 10: completely different than what they've done to other guys. So
Speaker 10: I think they were really hoping they were going to
Speaker 10: make it through the year. But once they got to
Speaker 10: this point and it looked like the season was breaking
Speaker 10: a little bit and they were they had to have it. Now,
Speaker 10: I think they're putting him in to win. I don't
Speaker 10: think this is anything like, hey, let's take a look.
Speaker 10: It's I think at this point they really feel like
Speaker 10: he's the best option to.
Speaker 2: Win the situation with Minnesota, Like it's a that would
Speaker 2: be a good quarterback dilemma. I would think the way
Speaker 2: Barkley's playing, JJ McCarthy, you know, got a chance to
Speaker 2: sit this year, maybe six next year, Like what do
Speaker 2: you do with Sam Darnold if you were running the
Speaker 2: vikings for the future.
Speaker 10: They really like JJ up there, I mean really like him.
Speaker 10: The plan, my opinion of what the plan was was
Speaker 10: that they were gonna let Sam Donald walk at the
Speaker 10: end of this thing. At least that's what it was
Speaker 10: early in the year. But not many teams go on
Speaker 10: a run like this, right, I mean, this is this
Speaker 10: is pretty special, and they have a chance with the
Speaker 10: way they play defense and the way that Brian Flores
Speaker 10: is so good at just bringing that constant pressure and
Speaker 10: disrupting and making big plays and all the things that
Speaker 10: they do. And then Sam Donald has this, you know,
Speaker 10: JJ is just unbelievable, and Addison has you know, proven
Speaker 10: what he can do, and this is a team with
Speaker 10: a chance to win it. I don't think there's a
Speaker 10: team currently that I would just go, oh, that nobody's
Speaker 10: beating them, right, I just don't think there is. Right now,
Speaker 10: We've seen, you know, the Chiefs struggle, Detroit's got some injuries,
Speaker 10: Buffalo's had their moments, but Josh Allen's hot and all
Speaker 10: those sorts of things. But could the Minnesota Vikings win
Speaker 10: it all?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 10: And that was always my question. Everybody's that's the whole thing.
Speaker 10: Everybody's got to a play until they get punched in the face.
Speaker 10: Everybody's got a plan until you win a Super Bowl,
Speaker 10: or you make it to the Super Bowl, or you
Speaker 10: make it to the championship game. And I was trying
Speaker 10: to determine what was the cutoff at which Sam Donald
Speaker 10: would have to be your quarterback, right, I mean, there's
Speaker 10: no going back if you win a Super Bowl. Sam
Speaker 10: Donald has to come back and be the quarterback, doesn't he.
Speaker 10: But the belief in what they saw out of the
Speaker 10: draft process with JJ McCarthy was so strong. Even if
Speaker 10: they made it to the championship game, I'm not sure.
Speaker 10: I'm just not sure that they don't switch to J Jack.
Speaker 2: Chris collins Worth will be on the call with Mike Trico.
Speaker 2: That'll be Sunday night, it's the Bucks and the Cowboys. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are still a big rating straw?
Speaker 6: Is that why? But is that why you don't flex
Speaker 6: out of that game?
Speaker 10: I think it had a little bit more to do
Speaker 10: with Tampa in this circumstance. And believe me, do you
Speaker 10: know how involved I am in which games we get.
Speaker 6: On Sunday Zeros?
Speaker 10: They give me the same call they give everybody else.
Speaker 10: It's all sort of driven by the ratings, but ultimately
Speaker 10: it's driven by the league. And I think sometimes and
Speaker 10: I'm just making stuff up, but I do think there
Speaker 10: are teams that they want to get in front of
Speaker 10: a national audience before they get to the playoffs, right, Like,
Speaker 10: let's let's put them somewhere where that people are going
Speaker 10: to see them, because that was a surprise team. I
Speaker 10: don't think you call Tampa surprise team because they made
Speaker 10: it to the playoffs the season ago, but maybe not
Speaker 10: all the national exposures. So let's get them out front
Speaker 10: and center. You know, Baker Mayfield's player of the week,
Speaker 10: they've got, you know, Mike Evans had had a tremendous
Speaker 10: game a week ago. Let's let's get an audience used
Speaker 10: to that. So that when we get to those playoff ratings,
Speaker 10: people people know what to.
Speaker 2: Expect if Christian mccaffery's career ended today.
Speaker 6: Is he a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 10: I mean, he was the best player at his position
Speaker 10: for a couple of years. I would say probably at
Speaker 10: least goy. With what these running backs are doing this season,
Speaker 10: it's it's hard to know what the expectation is at
Speaker 10: the running back position. But Christian McCaffrey was my first
Speaker 10: overall pick in my fantasy league. So yeah, I've got
Speaker 10: a little personal you're mad at having the heart on
Speaker 10: that one. So but you know, he is a very
Speaker 10: unique player. Marshall Fulk like is how I would describe him.
Speaker 10: And you know, when Marshall Fulk was healthy and playing well,
Speaker 10: that ability, that one two punch, the tough running inside
Speaker 10: and what he does as a receiver. What they probably
Speaker 10: have missed the most this year is the ability to
Speaker 10: do you know, that little horizontal motion that they do
Speaker 10: with him and they just create one on ones. Well,
Speaker 10: teams were having to double team him at the running
Speaker 10: back position, which was opening up Debo and all those
Speaker 10: guys I U to get one on one routes and
Speaker 10: it's why you saw some big plays down the field,
Speaker 10: so yeah, it's tight.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I don't think he's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: I think Tiki Barber's more of a Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: than McCaffrey. If I'm just looking at numbers, if I
Speaker 2: said I'll give you a player A and player B,
Speaker 2: you would go with Tiki Barber's numbers over his. You know,
Speaker 2: Ricky Waters, look at his numbers. Ten thousand yards rushing.
Speaker 2: He was a great receiver out of the backfield. Fred
Speaker 2: Taylor eleven thousand yard. You know, there's it's weird how
Speaker 2: we're trying to grade running backs because Roger Craig was
Speaker 2: a wonderful running back and was doing this hybrid stuff
Speaker 2: back then for the Niners. So I don't envy Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame voters trying to tell me who a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer is at that position.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's my position. My position on the position has
Speaker 10: probably evolved over time. We had James Brooks here when
Speaker 10: I was playing, and James was a tremendous receiver and
Speaker 10: the ability for him to be basically a wide out
Speaker 10: helped our offense so much. And I think that today,
Speaker 10: even though you know some of these running backs Cancert.
Speaker 10: You know King Henry can certainly catch the ball. You
Speaker 10: know Barkley can catch the ball. But McCaffrey's a receiver
Speaker 10: and a running back. And I think in today's game,
Speaker 10: where the rules allow you to hold, don't allow you
Speaker 10: to hit the quarterback, don't allow you to really attack
Speaker 10: the receiver. Cop would I have loved to play it
Speaker 10: in the era where they couldn't hit you right there.
Speaker 10: You know, when you if you don't have to think
Speaker 10: about that one, Dan, you know, if you're running over
Speaker 10: the middle and they hit you in the back, I
Speaker 10: want you to think about your body a little bit
Speaker 10: behind you, right behind you. The back of your head's hard.
Speaker 10: You've got ribs all the way down, You've got soft tissue.
Speaker 10: If you get hitting the butt, doesn't hurt that much,
Speaker 10: get hurt, hitting the hamstring cap, None of that stuff hurts.
Speaker 10: It's like it's all made salt. Your eyes are what
Speaker 10: has to protect the front of your body, right because
Speaker 10: everything here hurts, but that one right there, when they
Speaker 10: hit you right underneath the chin, that really hurt. And
Speaker 10: but you get hit in the stomach and obviously the privates,
Speaker 10: and you get hitting the thighs you get hitting the shin.
Speaker 10: Think how much it hurts to get hitting the shin.
Speaker 10: Everything in front of your body has to be protected
Speaker 10: by your eyes. And I don't even know why I
Speaker 10: got in there, but that's it's a really interesting thing. Someday,
Speaker 10: when you're at a cocktail party and you're about three
Speaker 10: beers in, you're gonna love that story. You're going to say,
Speaker 10: you know what, think about football players and they have
Speaker 10: to protect the front of their body with their eyes.
Speaker 6: Did you wear a protective cup? It did not.
Speaker 10: No, I don't know of anybody that did. I could
Speaker 10: barely stand to wear it in baseball because it was like,
Speaker 10: you know, you've always walked like a cowboy, no matter what,
Speaker 10: You've got to kind of walk around that thing.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't. They can't.
Speaker 10: They can't just swing straight. You know that's not good.
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, the first of its kind,
Speaker 2: Madden NFL cast on Peacock during the Texans and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Were you a voice on the Madden game at some point?
Speaker 10: Yes, I was for like three years, and I know
Speaker 10: John quit like it's it's the Madden is maddening. So
Speaker 10: let me tell you what they do. I'm not even
Speaker 10: kidding they get you get a book. I wish I
Speaker 10: had a book around here somewhere. I mean, this thing
Speaker 10: is like distick and you're there for three or four
Speaker 10: days and you just take the book. And I'm not
Speaker 10: kidding you. I'm sitting there and I'm reading this thing.
Speaker 10: It's like, all right, I'm on this chapter. And it's
Speaker 10: like Peyton Manning just just threw his second interception of
Speaker 10: the game on that outcut Peyton Manning back to pass. Oh,
Speaker 10: he just threw his third interception the game. I got
Speaker 10: up to Peyton Manning just threw his seventeenth interception in
Speaker 10: the first half, and I said, I'm not kidding you.
Speaker 10: If anybody ever got to seventeen interceptions when I was
Speaker 10: doing it, I don't know if they threw it out
Speaker 10: of the game. I said, somebody shoot that sob that
Speaker 10: ain't Peyton Manning out there. I mean, it's like you
Speaker 10: lose your mind after a little while doing this game,
Speaker 10: and nobody ever dies it longer than like three years.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 10: They're out there. You go crazy.
Speaker 2: It'll be a no Eagle Todd Blackledge. That'll be Saturday
Speaker 2: at one eastern. The first of its kind Madden NFL
Speaker 2: cast on Peacock, but Chris will be on the call
Speaker 2: with Mike Trico Melissa Stark. That'll be Bucks Cowboys Sunday night, eight,
Speaker 2: twenty eastern. My best of the family. Merry Christmas to you,
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us.
Speaker 10: Merry Christmas and keep reminding people you protect the front
Speaker 10: of your body with your eyes.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's Chris collins Worth there, words of advice. Whenever we
Speaker 2: play our pickup football game here in the Fieldhouse, we'll
Speaker 2: take break phone calls coming up and we'll bring back
Speaker 2: something that Charles Barkley said yesterday on the show.
Speaker 1: After this, be sure to catch the live edition of
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six
Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio wap.
Speaker 2: DOWUR rankings coming up, and we'll hear from Charles Barkley
Speaker 2: something you.
Speaker 6: Had to say yesterday.
Speaker 2: Alex in Louisville, Hey, thanks for holding what's on your mind?
Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Dan Zant's.
Speaker 5: I recently was thinking about the NBA and how to
Speaker 5: fix it, and I did come up with what I
Speaker 5: think is a pretty good idea of how to do so.
Speaker 5: So instead of doing your overall record out of eighty
Speaker 5: two games, how about we adopt kind of an NFL model,
Speaker 5: and we do eight five game series against division opponents,
Speaker 5: so you get two against each, ten three game series
Speaker 5: against the rest of conference opponents, and then five three
Speaker 5: game series against one division of the other conference. So
Speaker 5: it rotates each year like the NFL. So you get
Speaker 5: eighty five total games, but you are it's based out
Speaker 5: of a series record out of twenty three, with the
Speaker 5: tiebreaker being the overall record out of eighty five games.
Speaker 2: I don't want to add games. I think I need
Speaker 2: to see it on paper with something like that. Charles
Speaker 2: Barkley was with us yesterday and we talked to about
Speaker 2: maybe what you can do to make the NBA a
Speaker 2: little more attractive.
Speaker 4: I think we need to consider, seriously consider starting at Christmas,
Speaker 4: because you get cancaousness. You're wasting your time going up
Speaker 4: against the NFL and college football. They own the weekends now.
Speaker 4: But if I think if we started at Christmas, we'd
Speaker 4: have all the calendar. There's no other sports I mean
Speaker 4: that we'd have to compete with. If we started at Christmas,
Speaker 4: college football would be over. Pro football is winding down
Speaker 4: we'd have the entire calendar late December, January, February, March, April, May, June.
Speaker 4: To ourself, I think it's something we need to really
Speaker 4: consider playing and simple.
Speaker 2: Now I disagree with Charles because college football is expanding.
Speaker 2: Now you have the playoffs starting around Christmas, and it's
Speaker 2: going to be starting earlier than that the NFL. Then
Speaker 2: they go into the playoffs. You will christen the college
Speaker 2: football season in January and you'll have a national championship.
Speaker 2: NFL goes into the playoffs, then you got the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: They're already going to interrupt the NBA All Star Game
Speaker 2: because the Super Bowl is going to be moved back
Speaker 2: another week so they can have it on Presidence Day weekend,
Speaker 2: so everybody gets Monday off. You know, college football is expanding,
Speaker 2: the NFL is expanding its footprint here, and the NBA
Speaker 2: is paying a price here because if you say, hey,
Speaker 2: we'll have all of February, well you got Super Bowl
Speaker 2: and then you might have a little bit of time.
Speaker 2: Then you have college basketball conference playoffs. Then you have
Speaker 2: March Madness that goes into the beginning of April. Then
Speaker 2: you got baseball that starts, and baseball is on an uptick.
Speaker 2: Baseball had a really good year, So now you're in
Speaker 2: competition with baseball. When you get to April, then you
Speaker 2: got the NFL Draft. It's I mean, you really got
Speaker 2: a hold on to a couple of months for dear
Speaker 2: life if you can, if you're the NBA, if you
Speaker 2: want to stand out. But once again, if the NBA
Speaker 2: players don't care, then why should I care? When it
Speaker 2: comes to load management? How many games do you want
Speaker 2: to play? How many are you going to play? Even
Speaker 2: the monetary enticement of you got to play a certain
Speaker 2: number of games if you're going to be qualifying for
Speaker 2: these honors postseason, you know, we don't want to watch
Speaker 2: rich get richer. Where you go great, I mean you're
Speaker 2: getting paid. We tried to spice up the NBA Cup
Speaker 2: that there's money at stake. There's no money at stake
Speaker 2: for us, Like I assume you want to play now,
Speaker 2: you really want to play because there's money attached to it.
Speaker 2: The All Star Game nobody cares about. So yeah, the
Speaker 2: NBA really has to start, you know, throwing out some
Speaker 2: ideas just like we are.
Speaker 6: There's no bad idea, let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: And then I think this commissioner really needs to start
Speaker 2: to think Mike rob Manfred the baseball commissioner is thinking
Speaker 2: where it sounds crazy, maybe it's not as crazy.
Speaker 8: Yes, Paul, how about not fewer games, but you bump
Speaker 8: the season, the start of the season back, so you
Speaker 8: go deeper into summer when there's more room and more eyeballs.
Speaker 2: I don't once again, you've got people who get paid
Speaker 2: to do this, you know, market research, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's something that you can do. They want
Speaker 2: to do, but you know, once you get to summer,
Speaker 2: are people staying inside and watching?
Speaker 6: You know, that's another thing to factor.
Speaker 2: You'll go to a game, a baseball game in the
Speaker 2: summer because it's outside. It's not like you go can't
Speaker 2: wait to go to an indoor basketball game in the summer.
Speaker 2: All right, Time for dower rankings, dour any sport like you?
Speaker 6: What do you down? What's what's making you? Dower Ton
Speaker 6: been down on.
Speaker 3: The NBA lately. This NBA Cup thing obviously has been
Speaker 3: bothering me. And now they're doing this contrived trying to
Speaker 3: save the All Star Game with the four teams and
Speaker 3: the GMS from TNT and they just how did NBA
Speaker 3: get so desperate and uh downtrodden.
Speaker 6: Okay, Dower Seaton Dower Rankings.
Speaker 12: I'm dour on Tua and the Miami Dolphins. Okay, they
Speaker 12: you know, just had a must win game. Their season
Speaker 12: has been a little bit of a disaster. They have
Speaker 12: a ton of talent. They really seem to underperform grossly
Speaker 12: and not really get a ton of attention for it
Speaker 12: the way other teams do. And I think even Tua
Speaker 12: if you look at what happened this weekend past weekend
Speaker 12: with that injury, a lot of people point to Tua
Speaker 12: not putting balls in the right place and protecting his receivers.
Speaker 12: It's just an ugly scene there. I'm pretty dowered on Tua.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Marvin, I'm dower on the college football transfer portal
Speaker 7: this time of year is not good. The Penn State
Speaker 7: backup quarterback had the transfer. He didn't want to, but
Speaker 7: he had to because of the time restrictions. So that's
Speaker 7: what I'm paul.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with the Tennessee Titans. Three years ago,
Speaker 8: they were twelve and five, They were in the playoffs
Speaker 8: for the third straight season. They had Mike Rabel, they
Speaker 8: had Tannehill, they had Derrick Henry and AJ Brown and
Speaker 8: they're really bad and they don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 6: It looks like going forward, Yeah, I think is he
Speaker 6: going to be benched? Yes? Wow, I'm dowur.
Speaker 2: On everybody's reaction to Caitlin Clark being named Time Magazine's
Speaker 2: Person of the Year. I just think the WNBA should
Speaker 2: have celebrated this. They didn't. It just it feels like
Speaker 2: it's old school news school race plays a role in this,
Speaker 2: you know, does privileged play. I mean, it's just she
Speaker 2: had an unbelievable year. It should be a victory lap
Speaker 2: for the WNBA. It feels like they're missing out on
Speaker 2: that opportunity. Two hours in the books, one more to go.
Speaker 2: We'll get to more phone calls as well. Operator Tyler
Speaker 2: is sitting by final hour in this Thursday Is Straight
Speaker 2: Ahead Dan Patrick Show.