Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: Select Ezekiel Elliott and now your hosts Dame Brugler, David
Speaker 1: Hellman and Brian brought us Well. Once again, we're back
Speaker 1: here for another year of the Draft Show. This will
Speaker 1: be our fourth campaign here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios.
Speaker 1: I'm Brian brought us from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, joined
Speaker 1: by my good personal friends, scouts, buddies, guys that help
Speaker 1: us get through all this in the draft process. Dame
Speaker 1: Brugler from CBS Sports Dallas Cowboys dot Com contributor one
Speaker 1: of the young men that I would absolutely if I
Speaker 1: was running a football team have as an NFL scout
Speaker 1: on my staff. I think he's one of the best
Speaker 1: young talented scouts out there and you should always pay
Speaker 1: attention to what Dame Brugo is going to say. Join us.
Speaker 1: So by David Hellman, writer from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: Before this was doing a scouting stuff with ESPN, recruiting
Speaker 1: national stuff working with LSU, so it's always appreciated to
Speaker 1: have his inside of what goes on in National Football
Speaker 1: League and also executive producer Kent Garrison, who has carried
Speaker 1: this show on four years back helping us, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate everybody that's involved with this show. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: guys out there, especially the old followers of the Draft Show.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming back and making us
Speaker 1: such a part of your lives and letting us not only,
Speaker 1: you know, investigate for you, but also educate you as well.
Speaker 1: That's something we always like to talk about. This is
Speaker 1: your show, like to welcome the new folks that are
Speaker 1: just checking us out for the first time. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be carrying you, like I said, through this draft. We're
Speaker 1: going to carry you up through the draft the three
Speaker 1: days when it actually happens. If you go back and
Speaker 1: look at some of our former podcasts, I feel like
Speaker 1: that we do an outstanding job of telling you exactly
Speaker 1: not only what the Dallas Cowboys are going to do,
Speaker 1: but what other teams. You don't have to be just
Speaker 1: a fan of the Dallas Cowboys to be a fan
Speaker 1: of the Draft Show. Just be a fan of the Draft.
Speaker 1: We always encourage you to be a part of this show.
Speaker 1: We do that a couple of different ways. We do
Speaker 1: it on Twitter at the Draft Show, you can get
Speaker 1: your questions to us there. We love to hear questions.
Speaker 1: We have a thing called Twitter on the twenty that
Speaker 1: Ed Khill, the founder of the Draft Show, came up with.
Speaker 1: We like to interact with fans. We love that part
Speaker 1: of it. We also have the ability to call us
Speaker 1: at eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that it is on the screen right now
Speaker 1: as we speak, coming to you from a couple of
Speaker 1: different avenues, Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the app. The
Speaker 1: mobile app is outstanding. We also are on Periscope, which
Speaker 1: is something new to the Draft Show. We're going to
Speaker 1: try and use this more often, especially when we get
Speaker 1: on the road to the Senior Bowl next week, to
Speaker 1: the Combine. Hopefully you folks will fall along with that
Speaker 1: and get your fixed the Draft Show. So with all
Speaker 1: that being said, I want to get into we got
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl now, and you know, the season being
Speaker 1: over for the Cowboys, season being over for a lot
Speaker 1: of teams. Here's four teams left. But now we move
Speaker 1: on to the next phase and the Senior Bowl. Dane
Speaker 1: and you know, the the other game. But we got
Speaker 1: the NFL Players Association games, you know, the East West Game,
Speaker 1: but the really the one that we tend to focus
Speaker 1: on on our end of it is the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: And we focus on the Senior Bowl because the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl last year brought us names like Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: Dion Jones, so many names, Sterling Shepherd, Yeah, Cody Whitehead guy,
Speaker 1: you absolutely love Hargrave. Who you recommended for the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl to bring in, Noah Spence, Braxton Miller, Kenneth Dixon,
Speaker 1: Blake Martinez who's going to play in the championship game
Speaker 1: this week in for Green Bay. So as we focus
Speaker 1: on the Senior Bowl, some names stain. I mean, it
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't have the d that doesn't have the star
Speaker 1: power that we've seen in previous Senior Bowls, namely last year.
Speaker 1: But there's a good group of names of guys that
Speaker 1: we need to focus on for this for this particular game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no question, and the Senior Bowl is unique. I
Speaker 1: think everyone thinks of the offseason in the draft process.
Speaker 1: First name that comes to our first word that comes
Speaker 1: to mind as the combine. Yeah, but the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: is so important because when you think about it, it's
Speaker 1: the last event where that we're doing actual football things.
Speaker 1: I mean they're wearing pads, they're wearing equipment. You know,
Speaker 1: they're on a football field outside where you know the
Speaker 1: combine it's shorts and a T shirt, right, individual workouts
Speaker 1: the Pro days. You know, it's a lot like we
Speaker 1: see at Pro Days, the same event at these guys
Speaker 1: having Wren shorts and T shirts. In a while, let's
Speaker 1: be real, they're wearing like Nike bodysuits now. But your
Speaker 1: point as well, man, Yeah, exactly. So that's why you
Speaker 1: know the Senior Bowl, and it's really when the coaches
Speaker 1: start to get involved in the draft process. Right, the scouts,
Speaker 1: they've been on the road all fall. They have a
Speaker 1: good idea of who these guys are the general managers.
Speaker 1: But for the coaches, who are so invested in the
Speaker 1: NFL season now, this is really their first impression of
Speaker 1: a lot of these prospects. And to give you just
Speaker 1: a brief idea of the players that will be in
Speaker 1: Mobile next week. In my Top fifty which I just
Speaker 1: released this week and we'll talk about yes later, seventeen
Speaker 1: seniors on my Top fifty and nine will be in Mobile.
Speaker 1: So eight have pulled out, Ruben Foster, Corey Davis, some
Speaker 1: of the top guys, but there's plenty of talent. OJ Howard,
Speaker 1: the talented tight end from Alabama. Tack McKinley was supposed
Speaker 1: to go, he pulled out. Forrest Lamp, the talented offensive
Speaker 1: linement from Western Kentucky will be there. Evan ingram Ole,
Speaker 1: Miss Hassan Reddick Temple, George Lewis Michigan, Ryan Anderson Alabama
Speaker 1: to Davious White, LSU Desmond King Iowa. Guy will be
Speaker 1: talking about a lot, Dan Feeni Indiana. So the all
Speaker 1: these guys are projected top two rounds and they'll all
Speaker 1: be immobile with a chance to move up and help themselves.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna spend this real quick because I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: it's not as sexy a list as the one you
Speaker 1: just read from last year, but the Cowboys are picking
Speaker 1: twenty eighth. So there were several names. Yeah, there were
Speaker 1: several names that came to mind when Dane started running
Speaker 1: down his list of guys. You know, and I really
Speaker 1: like the of the sorry of the guys you've just
Speaker 1: read off. I like a lot of their chances of
Speaker 1: being around for the Cowboys to pick. O. J. Howard
Speaker 1: was one. We talked about it. I know people out there.
Speaker 1: Don't want me to start talking about the draft process
Speaker 1: and talking about a tight end, but he is, you know,
Speaker 1: depending on what you think about the butt kid from
Speaker 1: Michigan who's now injured, or what you think about with
Speaker 1: Oj Howard. You know, McKinley was another one. I feel
Speaker 1: like though even looking at this, you know, and you
Speaker 1: look at the strength potentially of this draft, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna get into a bunch of these guys, But defensive
Speaker 1: end seems to be a position. Even though McKenley is
Speaker 1: listed as an outside linebacker on your top fifty, he's
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker in a defensive end right, So you
Speaker 1: you have that, you know there's players, and it's ashamed
Speaker 1: that he is not going to be a part of this,
Speaker 1: but I think that, you know, if you're looking for,
Speaker 1: if you're a team, it's also looking maybe at an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. You know, we we've talked about maybe a
Speaker 1: team looking at offensive line even guard type players and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Uh, you know, Fenie the kid from Indiana.
Speaker 1: You talked about Lamp as another one too, and and
Speaker 1: and and just talk about if you would lamp really quick,
Speaker 1: lamp quickly about Yeah, I love him, I need that job.
Speaker 1: But but but yeah, but you you kind of in
Speaker 1: your thought process about LAMB, you kind of see maybe
Speaker 1: what we had with a couple of years ago with
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, Zach Martin's and that's and you start talking
Speaker 1: about comparison, and you can you can address Zack Martin,
Speaker 1: Dave and what he's meant to this organization. Anybody that's
Speaker 1: listening to this, I have a feeling, yes, as all
Speaker 1: about Zack Martin. And he really helped Zack Martin in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. He went into the Senior Bowl week as
Speaker 1: a player most thought would probably be a first rounder
Speaker 1: when he left Mobile. Oh he's a lock first rounder.
Speaker 1: This is where Daron donalds. But yeah, here's where the
Speaker 1: three guys that could block Aaron Donald can? Can Lamp
Speaker 1: be that guy? And Zack Martin was a four year
Speaker 1: starter at left tackle at tackle, Yes, attack and that
Speaker 1: same thing with what you're seeing this as a projection
Speaker 1: then right, exactly the same thing with Lamp. He's a
Speaker 1: four year starter at left tackle for Western Kentucky. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are thinking all
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. You know, Conference USA didn't face top tier talent.
Speaker 1: Watch his tape against Alabama. Yeah, watch him against Jonathan
Speaker 1: Allen Tim Williams, two talented pass rushers who bring different
Speaker 1: skill sets. Allan's obviously more power, tim Williams more speed.
Speaker 1: He handled both and I like him better inside at guard.
Speaker 1: He's similar to Zach Martin when I say could he
Speaker 1: stay outside and play tackle? Probably he could probably get
Speaker 1: away with it, but you move him inside to guard.
Speaker 1: He's an all pro, so a very talented player. I'll
Speaker 1: play devil's advocate when we talk about, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: some of the top guys passing on the chance to
Speaker 1: be in Mobile. Honestly, do we really need to see
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen and Dabiel? I mean we know who he is. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm more excited about who's going to replace him. And
Speaker 1: it's another chance for one of these mid rounders to
Speaker 1: help himself. Yeah, that's where and Dave, we you know
Speaker 1: when we go down there and Dane brought it up,
Speaker 1: coach's first opportunity. You listen to what the scouts limit this.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was really a coach driven pick. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know they that scouts kind of felt like with Jamille Showers,
Speaker 1: they had that they had that guy. They Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: kind of guy. But you know, here they are. They
Speaker 1: get to coach in the game, they get to see
Speaker 1: they had firsthand, they get to interview all those things.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a great opportunity. I mean,
Speaker 1: after the way the Cowboys draft went last year, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it started off with a really good week
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, and I mean I'm glad
Speaker 1: they're not coaching in it because I don't mean they
Speaker 1: had a terrible year, but I think that was invaluable
Speaker 1: for and not I mean obviously Dak was on the
Speaker 1: other team anyway, So not just with Dak, but right,
Speaker 1: you get your hands on a lot of guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously they didn't pick him, but it gave you a
Speaker 1: great head start with Carson Wentz, and I mean a
Speaker 1: guy that they liked a lot. Nobody had a better
Speaker 1: grasp on Carson Wentz than the Cowboys after getting to
Speaker 1: practice with him for a week. You know, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the list though of guys, and a guy that
Speaker 1: I highlighted was that DeShawn Hall from Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: And everybody's familiar with Eric Miles Garrett on the other side,
Speaker 1: but talk a little bit about DeShawn Hall and really
Speaker 1: what he at Texas A and M what he was
Speaker 1: able to accomplish now getting an opportunity, there's a defensive
Speaker 1: end guy. There's a guy with some link, There's a
Speaker 1: guy with some range six five, two seventy, you know,
Speaker 1: like his motor. Yeah, exactly, you had a chance. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know I sat down and watched. I got to work.
Speaker 1: You know, the season ended Sunday. I'm doing my best,
Speaker 1: he goes. But talk about that what you saw him.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, being an lttle shoe guy, you're
Speaker 1: familiar with the SEC opponents though, but talk about what
Speaker 1: you saw yesterday watching Hall on tape a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like the thing that stood out to me the most
Speaker 1: was just his motor, Like he got everywhere, even when
Speaker 1: the play got when it got past him, he was
Speaker 1: there to make the backside tackle or if it was
Speaker 1: on the other side of the field, he always wound
Speaker 1: up in the pile anyway. Just he's not a and
Speaker 1: you know, he's not the star pass rusher for A
Speaker 1: and M. That's Myles Garrett, so he probably can't afford
Speaker 1: to do that. But I didn't see him taking plays off.
Speaker 1: And I mean what. We watched him for a half
Speaker 1: hour or more exactly, and he I mean he was
Speaker 1: given great effort on every snap that I watched. So
Speaker 1: that's the thing that stood out to me the most.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is for pass rushers, especially
Speaker 1: like you talk about Randy Gregory and guys that I
Speaker 1: look at your size coming out of college. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I don't want to have five to seven There's something
Speaker 1: too that, right, big dude, I don't want to have
Speaker 1: to spend time like bulking you up and getting you
Speaker 1: in NFL shape. So his size and his effort stood
Speaker 1: out to me immediate. But we find in that though,
Speaker 1: is there a combination and mix And I'll let you
Speaker 1: talk about hal but we find in there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of the two fifty five guy Tim Williams at Alabama.
Speaker 1: Are we finding there's a little bit of a two
Speaker 1: seventy two sixty five guys and then that two fifty
Speaker 1: five guys the two hundred and fifty five pound guys.
Speaker 1: You know, whether it be the kid at Missouri, you
Speaker 1: know that kind of mean aston from from Lawson from
Speaker 1: Alburn's another one too. Yeah, And when you're building a
Speaker 1: pass rusher prototypically you want the six five, two eighty
Speaker 1: long arms, but still a freak athlete. You know, you
Speaker 1: want Jadeveon Clowney, but not all pass rushers come in
Speaker 1: that package. And I think this plenty of guys in
Speaker 1: this draft will show that Carl Lawson's one of them.
Speaker 1: He's that yeah, Brandon Graham type of rusher who he
Speaker 1: was going to be at the Senior Bowl but didn't
Speaker 1: have enough credits to graduate in time, so he will
Speaker 1: not be at the Senior Bowl, but still a terrific
Speaker 1: player who I think will be in play at twenty
Speaker 1: eight for the Cowboys. Yeah, I too, I agree with
Speaker 1: you there on that. I liked watch and Loss and Play.
Speaker 1: I thought there was I thought there was that explosive
Speaker 1: edge player. You know, put his hand down, he could,
Speaker 1: he could stand up, he could kind of do a
Speaker 1: lot of different things. I like the way he attacked
Speaker 1: the corner of these offens. Attack and Day brought up
Speaker 1: a point that I don't think gets talked about enough
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the edge rusher. The ability to
Speaker 1: rate to retrace with these quarterbacks move the way they
Speaker 1: do in the pocket, if you go up the field,
Speaker 1: your ability to get back inside and capture the quarterback
Speaker 1: when he's on the move. I think it's a very
Speaker 1: underrated trait that we're seeing with these with these defensive
Speaker 1: most blockers can't account for that. They don't have the
Speaker 1: counter measures to deal with that. With all their momentum
Speaker 1: going one way, it's a lot easier for guys like
Speaker 1: Loss and others to cut back inside. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's something that I think we're seeing throughout the league
Speaker 1: where you don't have to be that Jadeveon Clowney to
Speaker 1: make an impact. And there's plenty of undersized edge rushers
Speaker 1: who are being used different ways, attack the pocket from
Speaker 1: different angles. Right Laramy Tunsel, who was the top tackle
Speaker 1: last year and last year's draft, he said Carl Awston
Speaker 1: was the toughest rusher he faced. So the high praise
Speaker 1: for the Auburn kid. If as long as the medicals
Speaker 1: checkout for Lawson, he's a guy, we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: plenty that you see. And that's something you brought up
Speaker 1: to that we you know, as when you're evaluating these kids,
Speaker 1: you're really evaluating the tape. I mean, the scouts have
Speaker 1: the opportunity with the interviews, the medical you know, we
Speaker 1: you know, those are the things you always I mean
Speaker 1: last year, I just remember evaluating Noah Spence on what
Speaker 1: Noah Spence was as a player, and how the lofty
Speaker 1: expectations I had for Noah Spence. But then you start
Speaker 1: getting into character issues, problems at Ohio State, you know,
Speaker 1: and Dane talked about it wouldn't bother you though, No,
Speaker 1: it never bothers me. You know, it never bothers me.
Speaker 1: I mean what bothered me was that Dane was as
Speaker 1: right as he was about Joey Bosa. I'll admit that now.
Speaker 1: I mean I still think that. I still think that
Speaker 1: Greg Els and I. Hey, the Draft Show always welcome opinions,
Speaker 1: always welcome opinions. Okay, we don't need to delve back. Well,
Speaker 1: but to your point we were talking. You know, I
Speaker 1: put a clip up on Twitter last night, you guys
Speaker 1: talking up Malik Collins for all of the criticism that
Speaker 1: you got and the show got for being down on
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. I found a clip last night in the
Speaker 1: show the week before the Draft where we were like,
Speaker 1: everybody calmed down, Joey Bosa is a great player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we criticize everybody on this show. You look into
Speaker 1: everything it's not like we thought he was a bad
Speaker 1: place and I think it got fun that way. That's okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, and it won't be surprised if Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: not on this show. Maybe, but just you know, around
Speaker 1: all the noise, Miles Garrett gets a similar rap where
Speaker 1: you know he only had what eight sacks this year?
Speaker 1: Or yeah, maybe you know we start he's been the
Speaker 1: number one guys. If I call him Joey Bosa is
Speaker 1: at a compliment? It is? It is now. I mean,
Speaker 1: Miles Garret has been number one guy since the number
Speaker 1: and so we're just everyone's poke holes get ready for
Speaker 1: between now and April whatever, twenty eighth, we will find
Speaker 1: a reason to pick that guy apart. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: the thing about it. And he is he is clear
Speaker 1: the clear number one player on a lot of people's boards.
Speaker 1: Another player that I think when we get to Dane,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do this a little bit later in
Speaker 1: the show, Dane put out his top top fifty and
Speaker 1: I think it's a very interesting list. There's some names
Speaker 1: I want to go through, but you know, I'll throw
Speaker 1: a name out there. I think that people are going
Speaker 1: to attack and that's and that's the Peppers kid from Michigan.
Speaker 1: Don't get too much into that. You're stealing my thunder
Speaker 1: for the next segment. Okay, when we'll get to that though,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to. I definitely want to get
Speaker 1: into that about Peppers. But that's that's the thing with
Speaker 1: no clear cut quarterback and we we really I don't
Speaker 1: think there was really a clear cut and refresh me
Speaker 1: last year who they had, who was the the top guy,
Speaker 1: who not the top quarterback? Who was the player that
Speaker 1: we were everybody was thinking about was going to be
Speaker 1: the consensus number one overall? That would you remember quarterback? No?
Speaker 1: Just in general, I'm trying to think of the players
Speaker 1: like Ramsey's unsel Ramsey Treadwell was another one. I mean,
Speaker 1: people were talking about a lot of different guys up there,
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think it is the process goes on.
Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna see guys go up that thing, and
Speaker 1: I think what's gonna happen too, is you're gonna see
Speaker 1: guys come down that it's the media scouts And I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about us here, Dane or you know what
Speaker 1: you do with CBS. I just think that there's the
Speaker 1: Kipers and those guys that will push guys like Peppers
Speaker 1: and them way up the board. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the scouts start whispering to Dane at the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: or whispering to me, hey man, that Peppers, where are
Speaker 1: you gonna play him? Gonna are you gonna play him?
Speaker 1: But Miles Garrett could be the very same thing that
Speaker 1: the sack numbers and all that, and people might say, hey,
Speaker 1: Haul on the other side really was a better player.
Speaker 1: On the opposite side of that, we weren't really talking about.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz says that it can't miss the top five
Speaker 1: guy until we got back from Mobile, right, and that
Speaker 1: was another experience that Zeke did not join the top
Speaker 1: ten conversation until closer to the combine. I always remember
Speaker 1: thinking about Zeke though, there was some fundamental differences about
Speaker 1: not the player, but where where you would take him? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that and that's something that we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into in the show is there's some running backs
Speaker 1: in this draft, and Dane Brugler's got got several of
Speaker 1: them in his top fifty. And now do we see
Speaker 1: a shift and people saying, you know what, you got
Speaker 1: to go back to running the football. You gotta go
Speaker 1: back to being a physical team. And do you take
Speaker 1: a shot Cowboys, the Florida State, Yeah, Pittsburgh Steward, Well, exactly,
Speaker 1: I promise you. On draft Day in April, someone on
Speaker 1: the ESPN NFL network, it will be said, well, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys did this last year with Zekiel Elliot. Now Team
Speaker 1: X is trying to do the same thing with Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournette or Dalvin Cook. It was sound like we said
Speaker 1: word for word on draft day. And you sound like
Speaker 1: you kind of still disagree with that, don't you. Well,
Speaker 1: and I thought, no, I exactly. I mean the running
Speaker 1: back position, if the player is good enough and the
Speaker 1: situation is right, then it makes sense in the top ten,
Speaker 1: top twenty. Yeah, but you know I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Zeke's such a special player. If Zeke was
Speaker 1: in this class, he's the number one running back. And
Speaker 1: this is a statue. Is he the number one player
Speaker 1: in the draft? Well, I mean, I'm just based on
Speaker 1: draft grade, based on the grade that we had last yet,
Speaker 1: not what we know what he did as a rookie,
Speaker 1: but just based on draft grade, he would be the
Speaker 1: top running back in this group. It's a good group, though,
Speaker 1: I think very good. If you get trying to play copycat,
Speaker 1: you better have the line. You better have the line.
Speaker 1: Now you're right, Okay, we're gonna take our first break
Speaker 1: here when we come back. We got we got the
Speaker 1: senior bull taking care of a couple of guys to
Speaker 1: look at. Right there. We'll be down there coverage Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: have draft shows down there. We're gonna take a break
Speaker 1: right now. When we come back. I want to go
Speaker 1: to Twitter on the twenty. I want to get some
Speaker 1: of your questions in and make sure you hit us
Speaker 1: at the Draft show. We'll get you a question, Dave.
Speaker 1: We'll read him Dan and I wall do our very
Speaker 1: best to answer those questions for you, and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back on the Draft show. Let's say you're a
Speaker 1: person and the person a person who switched to ADNT
Speaker 1: and got up to six hundred and fifty dollars in
Speaker 1: credits when you trade it in your current smartphone and
Speaker 1: bought a new one on a D and T. Next
Speaker 1: I hear it did and use it to stream competitive
Speaker 1: eating videos. Oh that's him. Sorry, I'm granning get up
Speaker 1: to six hundred and fifty dollars in credits. Per line
Speaker 1: when you switch to AT and T, trade in your
Speaker 1: current phone and buy a new one on AT and T.
Speaker 1: Next AT and T mobilizing your world switch off a
Speaker 1: reality time. Each line with requires oos will reporting trade
Speaker 1: and purchase and service get minimum of tendollo trading, credit, ports, prepaycarging,
Speaker 1: amount of advice, bounce or termination to feed us trade.
Speaker 1: Hey Cowboys fans, did you know that over the next
Speaker 1: few years, more than a million service members will transition
Speaker 1: from military to civilian life. Veterans face unique challenges when
Speaker 1: they get out of the military, and Bank of America
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys are teaming up to help with
Speaker 1: financial education, career opportunities, and support of military nonprofits and
Speaker 1: organizations locally in North Texas and across the country. We're
Speaker 1: proud to support our troops and are deeply grateful for
Speaker 1: the dedication and sacrifice of our service members and veterans.
Speaker 1: Bank of America Official Bank of the Dallas Cowboys, invites
Speaker 1: you to join us and our efforts. To get involved
Speaker 1: by tagging game day photos on social media using hashtag
Speaker 1: troop thanks, that's hashtag troop thanks, and by learning more
Speaker 1: about our commitment to veterans at Bank of America dot
Speaker 1: Com slash Military Support. Work together, we can thank our
Speaker 1: troops and ways that make a real difference. Copyright twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: Bank of America Corporation. I went to my first Cowboy
Speaker 1: football game at the Cotton Boat when I was ten
Speaker 1: years old. I've been a Cowboy fan ever since. In
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl years and then not too good wins.
Speaker 1: Teamwork is what makes winners. At the Law Office of
Speaker 1: Domingo Garcia, we play as a team to win your case.
Speaker 1: If you have been hurt in a car or truck accident,
Speaker 1: injured on the job, call the Law Office of Domingo
Speaker 1: Garcia and join our winning team. We follows us in Dallas, Houston, Austin,
Speaker 1: or Deslon Tyler. We can help you in Texas. Call
Speaker 1: two one four nine four one eighty three hundred. Two
Speaker 1: one four nine four one eighty three hundred. This is
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show Cowboys on the
Speaker 1: Clock back here at from the SWBC Morgage Studios. Brian Broadest,
Speaker 1: David Hellman, Dame Brugler, Kent Garrison, executive producer, Gonna get
Speaker 1: into out to Twitter on the twenty I said it's
Speaker 1: a couple different ways that we can get into that with.
Speaker 1: You can get a hold of us at the Draft show.
Speaker 1: Hope you follow at the Draft show as well, a
Speaker 1: lot of information that we put on that about our
Speaker 1: shows where will be maybe things you can learn as
Speaker 1: we go along. And so with that being said Twitter
Speaker 1: on the Twitter, thank you very much, Ken Garrison for
Speaker 1: being on the switch. David Hellman take it away please
Speaker 1: and shout out ed k Hill as usual than um
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you were getting into this when we
Speaker 1: let in the first segment and I cut you off
Speaker 1: so rudely. So that's cool. We're gonna start with that.
Speaker 1: Won't be the last time. I don't think there's a
Speaker 1: more polarizing figure in the draft, at least in this going,
Speaker 1: this early going, than Jabral Peppers. So Billy wants to
Speaker 1: know why is Ji Jabril Peppers seemingly falling down the
Speaker 1: draft board and does that put him in the Cowboys range?
Speaker 1: Just kind of talk to me about what's going on
Speaker 1: with this guy. Well, if you if you read my colleagues,
Speaker 1: top fifty puts him right in range for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, it's right. I have him at
Speaker 1: thirty two. I believe yes, thirty two. Yeah. So with that,
Speaker 1: you know, I I to me, this is gonna sound
Speaker 1: really strange. I think he's either gonna and you can't
Speaker 1: find a position for him. But you could say he's
Speaker 1: a football player, say damn year exactly. Now, I'll let
Speaker 1: you go with that. But I'm having a problem finding
Speaker 1: a spot where I really think you can maximize his talent.
Speaker 1: That's the issue because he's a very good player in
Speaker 1: terms of athleticism, terms of football instincts. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to like about him. But where you play him is
Speaker 1: the key. His his ability and coverage is below average,
Speaker 1: and that's really the issue is loose player. Can you
Speaker 1: have a safety who you can't rely on in coverage?
Speaker 1: You know, you have need a guy that's gonna be
Speaker 1: coming up downhill the entire time. If so, then maybe
Speaker 1: he's a better linebacker. But we're talking about a guy's
Speaker 1: going to be about five eleven two fifteen when he
Speaker 1: weighs in. He's going to be a guy that he's
Speaker 1: gonna be eaten up by blockers near the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: So where do you play a talent like this? I
Speaker 1: guarantee you there will be coaches when they get involved
Speaker 1: in the process that look at his tape and they say,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not a running back. That's exactly where
Speaker 1: I would play him. I'm glad you said that. Well,
Speaker 1: you saved me from saying I'm going on for two
Speaker 1: minutes about this. I think he's a running back. I
Speaker 1: really do. I think you watch him carry the ball
Speaker 1: in some of these situations where the wildcat returner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has got some loose playability. He really does. So
Speaker 1: this is like the most known name among defensive backs
Speaker 1: in the draft. I'm not saying the best. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying the one that people know, and you're telling the
Speaker 1: most not on the right side of the ball. Me personally,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear him say that. But and see
Speaker 1: that's the issue. You just said, how he's the most
Speaker 1: well known. Sure, that's what got him to the Heisman, Sarah,
Speaker 1: he's the most well known player. He wasn't a top
Speaker 1: three player on that Michigan defense this year and the
Speaker 1: cornerback's going to be in Mobile this week. Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: at corner is better. Taco Charleton a defensivendos better that
Speaker 1: Michigan defense is really loaded and Peppers, while a nice
Speaker 1: player and definitely made an impact. The splash plays, the
Speaker 1: ESPN highlights stats with guide him to the Heisman. That's
Speaker 1: what has been generating all his buzz about him. But
Speaker 1: when you really study the tape, more questions than answers
Speaker 1: with Peppers. So, you know, could it be a situation
Speaker 1: like Landing Collins, the former Alabama safety doing some nice
Speaker 1: things with the Giants who his big thing? The big
Speaker 1: weakness with him coming out of college was coverage covered?
Speaker 1: But the Alabama safety has had that problem. We go
Speaker 1: back to Mark Barron was another one, but now fast
Speaker 1: forward and he's doing a lot better in that area.
Speaker 1: So could Peppers be a similar situation where you know,
Speaker 1: we say we look at him and say, look, he's
Speaker 1: an lead athlete, there's a lot to like about his
Speaker 1: football intelligence, will draft him and we'll coach the rest
Speaker 1: out of him, similar to a call Ins. But the
Speaker 1: bigger question, okay, what's his value? Then? Where do you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking a guy like that that needs coached
Speaker 1: up and too? In Pepper's defense, I do think that
Speaker 1: once he's given once of responsibilities, great he will be
Speaker 1: He'll have a much better chance to be comfortable with
Speaker 1: his situation because at Michigan he was spending time in
Speaker 1: a defensive meeting room. Then he's going to the offense.
Speaker 1: Then he's one of the special teams. He had to
Speaker 1: know the offensive playbook. It's not like they had five
Speaker 1: plays for him, and they did. They did this direct snaps,
Speaker 1: but the full offensive playbook right and everything going on.
Speaker 1: So I think he was stretched so thin that it
Speaker 1: really hurt him on defense. Once he has a chance
Speaker 1: to focus on one position, one set of responsibilities, that
Speaker 1: would really helps development. But still, I mean I put
Speaker 1: him at number thirty two on my board, so I
Speaker 1: still have some questions there. Okay, And assuming he's not
Speaker 1: playing running back in the NFL, which I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he couldn't, assuming he doesn't quickly safety or corner, I mean,
Speaker 1: where would you play him? Well, I think Dane would
Speaker 1: play him a lineback, well, a hybrid linebacker, dab Buchanan
Speaker 1: what he's doing in Arizona that but does he really
Speaker 1: tackle that? Well, See, that's gonna be a big question
Speaker 1: about people gonna watch tape and see he doesn't tackle great. No,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. And you worry about him playing linebacker
Speaker 1: at his size, maybe he's a will linebacker. I that
Speaker 1: this is the big You got a great football player,
Speaker 1: but you got to figure out I totally agree with
Speaker 1: everything he said. I'm very excited because we're one show
Speaker 1: in the Peppers is going to turn into your Bosa
Speaker 1: for this year. Well no, no, I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: calling no, no, no no. I will say this though,
Speaker 1: I think you have to like he like Dane says,
Speaker 1: I think you have to put him at one spot
Speaker 1: and let him flourish it that spot. And there are
Speaker 1: there are times when you say, look, we'll draft him,
Speaker 1: we'll figure out how to play him later. This is
Speaker 1: not that case with Peppers. You have to have a
Speaker 1: plan in place before you draft him. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: draft him and try and fit him in later. He
Speaker 1: could be at your spot at twenty eight. That's a possibility.
Speaker 1: It's a great segue. Let's get to some other questions.
Speaker 1: Paul wants to know. I'm kind of putting all on
Speaker 1: the spot here. I know you don't have boards or
Speaker 1: rankings real but Cowboys fans want edge rushers and they
Speaker 1: want corners, and they're picking twenty eighth. So throw me
Speaker 1: some names that are realistic here for that range for
Speaker 1: those positions. Well, I think the two positions that the
Speaker 1: strongest this year. Yeah, I think you're a great shape, right,
Speaker 1: I think you're a great shape. Go ahead, you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've got the thing. The names I've got. We talked
Speaker 1: about Lawson, we talked about McKinley, Tim Williams. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: there's some stuff baggage. Now get ready, and you know
Speaker 1: people are gonna say, you know what, how how severe
Speaker 1: is the baggage, Brian? But those are names of right ends. McKinley, Lawson, Williams.
Speaker 1: People talk about Burnett or some mean Burnett at a
Speaker 1: Tennessee and they talk about McDowell out of Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Those are left ends. To me, am I am I
Speaker 1: wrong about that? I agree with you. So I'm taking
Speaker 1: you know, and then if you want to go down
Speaker 1: the line, say you go corner first. The second round
Speaker 1: right ends. I had the smooth kid from Illinois and
Speaker 1: then I had to get the Harris kid from Missouri.
Speaker 1: Those were guys I were looking at as right defensive ends,
Speaker 1: and I think look at it at the pass rushers,
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Solomon Thomas Derek Barnett crossed those
Speaker 1: guys off. They're not going to be there at twenty
Speaker 1: eight unless something something happens now in the draft. I
Speaker 1: think you know you mentioned you said those names with
Speaker 1: Tim Williams, with his baggage, he could follow that far.
Speaker 1: Tack McKinley, he's going to blow up the combine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a real riser throughout
Speaker 1: this process. He might play himself out of that twenty
Speaker 1: eight pick. We might not be there. Carl Lawson, guy
Speaker 1: we talked about. I think he's in that mix. Medicals
Speaker 1: will be important for him. Charles Harris from Missouri, a
Speaker 1: guy who's just he's very young in football years. Didn't
Speaker 1: start playing football really until he's a junior in high school.
Speaker 1: They moved him around a little bit with that scheme
Speaker 1: at Missouri. You know, once he has a chance to
Speaker 1: really learn the position, I think he could blossom. One
Speaker 1: of the I think more. You know used the word
Speaker 1: polarizing with Peppers. A polarizing guy's gonna be DeMarcus Walker
Speaker 1: from Florida State because I think he's a three technique myself.
Speaker 1: That's it's another guy, you know, That's why I didn't
Speaker 1: listen him because in my mind, I got Peppers is
Speaker 1: a tweener. Yeah, and the same thing with Walker. He
Speaker 1: you could see him. You know, the production is great.
Speaker 1: You watch his splash plays, he's really impressive. But those
Speaker 1: splash plays are coming from the three technique position where
Speaker 1: he has space against the guard and the guard has
Speaker 1: no shot. Right, we saw it on the old Misty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So but he's not going to be able to play
Speaker 1: three technique on first and second down, right, So what
Speaker 1: is he is? He a left end on first and
Speaker 1: second down? He movement inside down. See that's that that
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are talking about him,
Speaker 1: and I told you I felt like that he was
Speaker 1: better inside, had a better chance to win against a
Speaker 1: guard than I did against an offensive tackle. You're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: Cowboys left position flex, I know, but but you need
Speaker 1: you need that. They really need a right end. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that's it's a good to play rotation. And
Speaker 1: they want to have pair Someway with Benson Mayowa. You
Speaker 1: know they're gonna they're gonna have to go wither. Here's
Speaker 1: a name for Cowboys fans to remember. Derek Rivers from
Speaker 1: Youngstown State, Okay, is a guy that just got bumped
Speaker 1: up to mobile. He will be at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: He has a chance to move up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Really impressive athlete. He could play right in for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He might put himself on the top one hundred range
Speaker 1: right now, having the fourth round. But he's a guy
Speaker 1: to look at if they don't go pass run. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of offensive tackles I believe in this Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean that if you look at the position, it
Speaker 1: might be the best to me the offensive tackle group.
Speaker 1: So he'll get some opportunities against some guys that might
Speaker 1: be an opportunity. Corners real quick, just corner real quick
Speaker 1: in that group. Twenty eight white from l Shoe Sidney Jones.
Speaker 1: Where do you think Sidney Jones is? City Jones got
Speaker 1: a guy that's just mocked here by yeah hyper for
Speaker 1: whatever that's worth. Yeah yeah, And I've had him here
Speaker 1: in my mocks multiple times. It makes sense. Sidney Jones
Speaker 1: from Washington, a guy who he's the better the corners
Speaker 1: from who's the better the two corners at Washington? I
Speaker 1: like Jones better. I mean that's Kemon King. He's long,
Speaker 1: he's tall, he can run disappointing he turned down. He's
Speaker 1: senior bowl in. Yeah, he could have helped himself. But
Speaker 1: a good player. But yeah, give me, give me Sidney Jones.
Speaker 1: Some of my second round guys too that I had
Speaker 1: on my board and I don't I'm tankerously from Clemson.
Speaker 1: Desmond King was a guy I think if he had
Speaker 1: to come out last year, would have been a for
Speaker 1: sure first round pick. I don't know if he's a safety.
Speaker 1: I like him better at safe. I think that's a question.
Speaker 1: You have to think. It's a great it's a great segue. Actually, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Humphrey from Alabama is another guy that is a
Speaker 1: long guy that can't kind of really run, but he's
Speaker 1: a physical son of a gun. All Right, you just
Speaker 1: kind of touch on this. But Alfredo wants to know
Speaker 1: other than Hooker and Adams. Yeah, the Ohio State and
Speaker 1: LSU guys who I don't figure to be in play
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Safeties that you like in this draft. Well,
Speaker 1: that's I'm saying. You got to project Desmond King as
Speaker 1: a Safety's that he's big. He's a big guy. He's
Speaker 1: a big guy, and he's built. He's not off, you know,
Speaker 1: he's not tall. He's about five eleven, but he's built
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah and two fifteen and he'll hit you.
Speaker 1: He's as tough as he is. He's a cheap shot
Speaker 1: guy too, which is kind of crazy. He's not afraid
Speaker 1: to like him. Oh yeah, he'll take a run at guys.
Speaker 1: The player will be over and he'll take a run
Speaker 1: at somebody. He's not afraid to take a run. So
Speaker 1: I kind of like his attitude about that. I thought
Speaker 1: too that Marlon Humphrey was a guy too that was
Speaker 1: a little bit maybe I thought about could play as
Speaker 1: a free safety there. Marcus Williams from Utah solid play,
Speaker 1: solid player, but yeah, Budha Baker is a guy who bakers.
Speaker 1: Another one that's twenty eight. I think could be a possibility.
Speaker 1: If there's a player that's your honey Badger. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a player that's close to the honey Badgers. Now he's
Speaker 1: not I'm not saying he's Tyron Matthew. But if there
Speaker 1: is a player that comes closest to that honey Badger
Speaker 1: or comparison, it's Buddha Baker. With everything that he does
Speaker 1: us in pass carverage against the run, yeah, physical, his
Speaker 1: play range five ninety five though, is his height, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's nine. Stop the badger. No, but the badger's get
Speaker 1: Badger's rare. Now, the badger is rare when when it
Speaker 1: comes to that quickness and all that. But this, you know,
Speaker 1: I think pass rusher is number one. Pass rusher in
Speaker 1: corner A one A one B. Safety might be that
Speaker 1: next position in terms of talent at the top and
Speaker 1: in depth throughout the draft. Yeah, I love everything y'all
Speaker 1: are saying. Um, I'll answer this one from Sean well,
Speaker 1: thank you. Well, that's good. He's asking about compensatory picks. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: are they in line for any from last year? Who
Speaker 1: did they lose in free agency? Well, they lost their
Speaker 1: didn't they have to do up at five for the
Speaker 1: quarterback Matt Castle? Matt Castle in line. Other than that,
Speaker 1: I think they got their full compliments of picks. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of anybody they lost. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what I had for breakfast, to be honest, I remember
Speaker 1: any major losses in free agency last year. Yeah, unless
Speaker 1: I'm just completely drawing a blank, Well, I think and
Speaker 1: then and then I mean people thinking, you know, yes,
Speaker 1: they could be in line for a compensatory pick. When,
Speaker 1: if or when Ron Leary leaves in free agency eighteen.
Speaker 1: You would not get that for this draft. And if
Speaker 1: you do something with Romo, sure, sure, that's a big one.
Speaker 1: This is the first year compensatory picks are a to
Speaker 1: be traded. Yes, and now we got to pay attention.
Speaker 1: The compens story used to be hammer and hammer and hammer, hammer,
Speaker 1: and now it's now it's like, whoa wait, that pick
Speaker 1: just got moved. I'm sitting here, Prescott was a compensed
Speaker 1: story pick. That is true. And actually for the offensive
Speaker 1: tackle that went to Jacksonville, I believe that's what they want.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell, Yes, because your your Murray pick got wiped
Speaker 1: out by the Hardy signing. So thank you, Jeremy Parnell.
Speaker 1: So long story short, I don't expect the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: have a lot in the way of compensatory picks this year.
Speaker 1: Maybe next year in eighteen. Yes yeah uh. Also shout
Speaker 1: out to another Nick, happy birthday, you asked for it,
Speaker 1: Good for you, Happy birthday. Um okay, and then a
Speaker 1: third Nick, Oh no second next sorright whatever? Even with
Speaker 1: the need for defense, and think another one people want
Speaker 1: to hear a lot about is wide receiver you got
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams and Bryce Butler heading for free agency. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about the receiver class twenty eight second round? Also,
Speaker 1: And I think another interesting aspect of this is, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't think of this team as needing offense is
Speaker 1: certainly not in the first round, but with the way
Speaker 1: that things shaping up, you think that's conceivable that that's
Speaker 1: your best bet at twenty eight defense, no receiver receiver,
Speaker 1: you know what it could be. It depending on how
Speaker 1: this thing stretches with defensive end when you look at
Speaker 1: the defensive ends, when you look at the corners. I mean,
Speaker 1: we just went through a litany of guys right there,
Speaker 1: but the wide receiver group will stretch a little bit too. Here.
Speaker 1: You know, when you start talking about when you get
Speaker 1: into the especially in the second round, I know there's
Speaker 1: three guys in the top of the top of the thing.
Speaker 1: And I think when you you have Williams in your
Speaker 1: top fifty over Davis number one. Yeah, and you like
Speaker 1: Davis better? Right? I do? I like Davis. I have
Speaker 1: one of them now based only on that, but that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. There's three there's three guys right there
Speaker 1: that I mean, and you and you also include Ross
Speaker 1: in that mix of the thing. Those are the top
Speaker 1: three guys, so this thing might stretch a little bit.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the top two. But if Ross but Ros
Speaker 1: would get there at twenty eight, he'll be very interesting.
Speaker 1: Because this is a player that I see a Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks type of guy. You know, he's undersized, but he
Speaker 1: can fly. Uh. He can beat you at every level
Speaker 1: of defense. And he's not just a speedster. He is
Speaker 1: a polished route runner. He has some injury stuff in
Speaker 1: his past with his knees, doesn't have the biggest catch radius.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be a guy that wins routinely
Speaker 1: in traffic, but he's a playmaker. He can be a
Speaker 1: home run threat. There's a lot to like about. Keep
Speaker 1: an eye in the Reynolds kid from Texas, A and M.
Speaker 1: He'll be it. You like him. I did like him.
Speaker 1: I liked him in the fact that I thought it
Speaker 1: was a guy that built up speed as he ran.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a guy that's everyone loves guys. Don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I see a number four receiver,
Speaker 1: see a four in him? I see a four? I
Speaker 1: don't I don't see. So then that means you don't
Speaker 1: have him, and you don't have him, you would have
Speaker 1: him been three four on your board then right, got
Speaker 1: him in the four. Okay, I don't I get it.
Speaker 1: I understand why people like him. Um he's a long
Speaker 1: stride or he deep, he can you know, jump balls,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't trust him as a number two.
Speaker 1: I think there's too many times him or Juju from
Speaker 1: from as far as trust trust is. What do you mean? Okay?
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you would take Juju over him. It
Speaker 1: just depends what kind of role I'm looking for. Juju
Speaker 1: might be best in the slot though. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: where a guy that's gonna find open space and zones
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, can beat you up. Physics Smith Schuster,
Speaker 1: Jus were t usc My biggest thing with Reynolds, and
Speaker 1: this is what I need to see from him, like
Speaker 1: to change my mind. He got beaten up by corners
Speaker 1: and they got in his face and they got physical.
Speaker 1: You're going to see the press coverage stuff from the scene.
Speaker 1: They knocked him out of bounds. He couldn't do anything
Speaker 1: about it. They knocked him off his route, he couldn't
Speaker 1: do anything about it. In the NFL He's going to
Speaker 1: see a lot of press coverage, and I just don't
Speaker 1: see him enough getting off that press coverage and making
Speaker 1: plays downfield. How about Westbrook, another guy who I wish
Speaker 1: was going to be in mobile this Yeah, unfortunately he
Speaker 1: decided to pull out. He he's getting some bad advice,
Speaker 1: but an explosive guy. He's got some baggage as well.
Speaker 1: Can he play consistently on the outside. I see a
Speaker 1: little bit of Will Fuller in him? Um, you know
Speaker 1: the good you had? Like we watched him last night
Speaker 1: for about thirty minutes, and I just saw DeShawn Jackson.
Speaker 1: That's the same measurables. Yeah, yeah, gonna run in the
Speaker 1: four threes. Yeah, I don't like I watched thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of tape, but like I don't think of him as
Speaker 1: like this polished complete receipt. He's but he's got the
Speaker 1: speed and the breakout ability to beat ninety percent of people.
Speaker 1: I mean, DeShawn Jackson's a one trick pony, but it's
Speaker 1: been working for a decade. Less. If him or Shepherd
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, you like Shepherd him at Oklahoma better. I
Speaker 1: like Shepherd's reliability better. Westbrook has more home run potential
Speaker 1: to him. I think Shepherds. He Shepherd's are more polished receiver, right,
Speaker 1: and is coming out of Westbrooks. Youre will will Fuller.
Speaker 1: He's gonna drop that end zone pass on the fifty
Speaker 1: yards exactly. He snatched a few of them, though he
Speaker 1: had a couple of end scrabs. Yeah, but he also
Speaker 1: played in the Big twelve against terrible defenses. Now that's
Speaker 1: that's Dane Burglar at DP Burglar. How'd westbrook do against
Speaker 1: Ohio State? Not too well? Not too well. He weighs
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy. Yeah, okay, right, Jenkins is
Speaker 1: gonna eat him alive, Dave, thank you so much for that.
Speaker 1: We appreciate the Twitter on twenty Thanks everybody that fired
Speaker 1: in their Twitter. Okay, we're gonna take our last break
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna put
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler on the hot seat. Might even take one
Speaker 1: or two of your calls eight eight eight eight five
Speaker 1: five two two ninety seven. Uh, Dane Brugler's top fifty.
Speaker 1: We'll get into it and we get back on the
Speaker 1: Draft show. Ready, get closer to America's team with Miller
Speaker 1: Latte for your chance to win Cowboys tickets and tailgate
Speaker 1: passes to every home game. Visit millerlaite dot com slash Cowboys.
Speaker 1: No verses necessary. It starts August first, twenty sixteen, Ends
Speaker 1: December twelve, twenty sixteen. Oklahoma and select Texas residence twenty
Speaker 1: one plus only. Boy We're prohibited. See official rules at
Speaker 1: millerlat dot com slash Cowboys four details. With great beer
Speaker 1: comes great responsibility copyright twenty sixteen, Miller Brewing Company, Fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker 1: Let's say you're a person. I'm a person, A person
Speaker 1: who switched to ATNT and got up to six hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars in credits when you traded in your
Speaker 1: current smartphone and bought a new one on AD and
Speaker 1: T Next. I Sarah did and use it to stream
Speaker 1: competitive eating videos. Oh that's him. Sorry talk. I'm granting
Speaker 1: get up to six hundred and fifty dollars in credits
Speaker 1: per line when you switch to AT and T, trade
Speaker 1: in your current phone and buy a new one on
Speaker 1: AT and T next, AT and T mobilizing your world
Speaker 1: switch off a limited time. Each line with quasios will recording,
Speaker 1: trade and purchase and service get minimum of ten dollar
Speaker 1: trading credit plus prepaycarting amount of the device mouns or
Speaker 1: altermination to feed less trade. Star Sports Tours is the
Speaker 1: only official fan travel partner of the Dallas Cowboys, offering
Speaker 1: exclusive game weekend travel packages with sideline access and photo
Speaker 1: ops with current players, Cowboy legends, cheerleaders and me Brian
Speaker 1: brought us want to stay at the team hotel. With
Speaker 1: Star Sports Tours, you can, and our outstanding ticket selection
Speaker 1: is unmatched. You could trust the official travel partner of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and with us you'll travel like a pro.
Speaker 1: Visit Starsports Tours dot com to book your travel packages Today,
Speaker 1: when an in he keeps you from being active, you
Speaker 1: want one place that has the expertise to care for
Speaker 1: all your orthopedic needs. As the largest not for profit
Speaker 1: healthcare system in Texas, Baylor, Scott and White Health is
Speaker 1: ready to care for you as a whole person, from
Speaker 1: athletic injuries to arthritis. You'll get personalized care from orthopedic specialists.
Speaker 1: So no matter where life finds you today or in
Speaker 1: years to come, trust that we'll be there to care
Speaker 1: for you. To find a physician, visit Baylor, Scott and
Speaker 1: White dot Com is that Dallas Cowboys dot Com draft showy.
Speaker 1: Back here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios, Brian brought us
Speaker 1: Dain Burglar, David Helman, Kent Garrison, executive producer. Want to
Speaker 1: get into Dame Burglar's top one top fifty. Excuse me
Speaker 1: before you get into that, though I teased about any calls. Kent,
Speaker 1: you got me there. My friend lining them up as
Speaker 1: we speak. Okay, is there anybody anybody you want to
Speaker 1: get to right now? Or you want to just keep
Speaker 1: lining them up. We'll line them up. Call us a five,
Speaker 1: two nine seven. We'll preview a little this and it
Speaker 1: will hit some calls. Okay, sounds good. You just jump
Speaker 1: in anytime you want. Okay, let's get into Dame Bruler's
Speaker 1: Top fifty. This is his first edition of the Top
Speaker 1: fifty that he put out. This is they say the
Speaker 1: in the in the internet world one point. Oh, I
Speaker 1: never quite understood that. But I'll go with a software thing.
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, but I'm learning. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this is his first one. This will this will change.
Speaker 1: I mean there'll be information, they'll fluctuate a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I always like the first one because I think
Speaker 1: that's really the generally that's the I always like the
Speaker 1: draft board when you when you built it and it
Speaker 1: as what you do and just watching the tape. And
Speaker 1: then I always took a picture of the draft board
Speaker 1: because I always felt like that's the best our board
Speaker 1: was going to be, because it all it was was
Speaker 1: about the tape. It wasn't about interviews, medical information, guys
Speaker 1: putting on gas masks, you know, laremy tunsil. You know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't about all that stuff. Oh boy. So and
Speaker 1: by the way, that's scouts are just they threw up
Speaker 1: in the mouth when they saw that, you know, that
Speaker 1: whole thing. But you gotta know about falling out of
Speaker 1: the top ten, Yeah, you gotta know about that. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's get into this Dane Brewer's Top fet and I
Speaker 1: encourage you to go to CBS Sports dot com Dane's
Speaker 1: Top fifties. On that. There's a couple, mom, I want
Speaker 1: to look at here at picks or at picks at
Speaker 1: the player position three and four. You have two safeties,
Speaker 1: really good safety Hooker and Adams. Tell us the thought
Speaker 1: process with Hooker and Adams going back to back and
Speaker 1: tell me the last time, and I've been doing this
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety one. I can't remember two safeties being
Speaker 1: that high, too highly considered in a draft. I've seen
Speaker 1: one safety be up there, but I haven't seen two.
Speaker 1: And you've got him back to back. We've seen, you know,
Speaker 1: a safety go in the top five. It's not, you know, uncommon, right.
Speaker 1: Sean Taylor comes immediately to mind. Eric Turner back in
Speaker 1: the early nineties, he went like second overall, highest it's
Speaker 1: ever been. Yeah, right, So it's not impossible. And really
Speaker 1: it's not because I don't teams don't value the safety position.
Speaker 1: It's because they're just haven't been team or safety's worthy
Speaker 1: of a top five to ten pick. That's not the case.
Speaker 1: This year. You have Malie Cooker and Jamal Adams, two
Speaker 1: guys that are arguably two of the five best players
Speaker 1: in this draft overall. They have a chance to go
Speaker 1: very high. With Millie Cooker. Interesting guy because it's only
Speaker 1: one year starter, Uh play it was a basketball guy.
Speaker 1: Most of his life's quick. Oh yeah, the amount of
Speaker 1: movement can cover yeah in his range. His ball skills,
Speaker 1: the ball production was outstanding at seven interceptions this year.
Speaker 1: He has the acrobatic ball skills to come down with
Speaker 1: those interceptions. So much to like about him. Very tough
Speaker 1: as a run defender and needs to work on some angles,
Speaker 1: but overall a very good starting free safety who can cover.
Speaker 1: Tell me about Adams a little bit. Will you remember
Speaker 1: it from your days at Ellis and you Uh, he's
Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. I was actually like when
Speaker 1: we when you when when you tease this, I was
Speaker 1: just like, man, I hate that he's not even a
Speaker 1: consideration just because he's gonna go way before. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: actually ran into him at the Green Bay game. He
Speaker 1: was there. He's from Carrol Tsel No, No, I was.
Speaker 1: I would though, and that's I mean, he's he's he
Speaker 1: got picks in college. But I don't think of him
Speaker 1: as like that ball hawk guy. He's just a heat
Speaker 1: seeking missile. He comes down to the line, he goes
Speaker 1: back in coverage. He he made a play against Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson and Louisville in the ball game where he chased
Speaker 1: the guy down from across the field and came from
Speaker 1: it wasn't anywhere near his assignment, and he stopped the
Speaker 1: guy for like a three yard game coming from the
Speaker 1: other side of the formation around the line. He's just
Speaker 1: super fast, super great instincts, makes plays everywhere. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be like an eight or nine
Speaker 1: pick type of guy, but he's just he's gonna be
Speaker 1: in on every tackle. He's gonna know where the ball
Speaker 1: is going before the quarterback does. He's so much fun.
Speaker 1: And the other thing that scouts love about him besides
Speaker 1: his DNA his dad was a great football player. But
Speaker 1: he's an alpha. I mean, he's a leader. He's the
Speaker 1: guy who's very vocal, very energet. His teammates feed off
Speaker 1: that energy, and that's something that you can see clearly
Speaker 1: on tape, but also something that coaches rave about, his
Speaker 1: teammates rave about. That's something that will play really well
Speaker 1: in interviews, and you feel pretty good about the player
Speaker 1: you're getting with Jamal Adams. Yeah, he didn't have to
Speaker 1: grow into his role at LSU. He was established from
Speaker 1: day one for sure. Dalvin Cook at seven, Leonard Fournette
Speaker 1: at twelve fell mede. The thinking behind that, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think everyone kind of assumed Leonard Fournette was going to
Speaker 1: be the top running back, you know, when as soon
Speaker 1: as he became a junior and was eligible for the draft.
Speaker 1: I prefer Dalvin Cook and really it's because there's more
Speaker 1: that goes into the running back position than just being big,
Speaker 1: fast and powerful, which Leonard Fournette is, And obviously Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournett's a very very good prospect to have him at
Speaker 1: number twelve, But Dalvin Cook has that combination of of course,
Speaker 1: he's a great athlete's explosive, his jump cuts are outstanding,
Speaker 1: he's fast, the accelerations outstanding. But his ability to the vision,
Speaker 1: the atians, the run tempo, that's what really sets him apart.
Speaker 1: Now with Dalvin Cook, he also has some issues with
Speaker 1: the shoulders. Right, he's not the biggest guy. Uh. If
Speaker 1: he was a little bigger and I didn't have any
Speaker 1: durability questions, I'd have him above Zeke in terms of
Speaker 1: just my grades coming out as running backs. But that's
Speaker 1: something that makes Zeke complete back. I mean we're talking.
Speaker 1: I mean you can watch this guy block, I mean
Speaker 1: and be really and do a great job out of
Speaker 1: it and then also split him out and they throw
Speaker 1: him nine round Oh yeah, he can. He can run rounds.
Speaker 1: He's a very good receiver. He can block. He's willing
Speaker 1: for sure, and needs a little work in that area technically,
Speaker 1: but a very good player. Nonetheless problems with Fournette. I
Speaker 1: don't know about problem. I mean, and honestly, it reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of the Peppers conversation and a little
Speaker 1: bit of the Bosa conversation. Like there, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: obvious I don't want to say flaws, but there's things
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette needs to work on. I don't think of
Speaker 1: him as a great blocker. They never used as a
Speaker 1: receiver at Lshoe and that doesn't mean he can't. A
Speaker 1: lot of people tell me that, well he's not using
Speaker 1: the passing game. That doesn't mean he but you gotta
Speaker 1: show those skills little bit though it would be nice, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's not like Odell Beckham and Jarvis
Speaker 1: Landry were in a great system for them at LSU either,
Speaker 1: and it didn't stop them. Point being honestly, though, you know,
Speaker 1: Fournette's been a household name since he came out of
Speaker 1: high school. He was a Heisman contender as a true sophomore.
Speaker 1: So I think the natural inclination is to think he's
Speaker 1: the best guy. But and it sounds like a hot
Speaker 1: take because everybody knows his name, But I think the
Speaker 1: deeper we get into this I think it'll be a
Speaker 1: pretty consensus opinion that Dalvin Cook is a more well,
Speaker 1: more well rounded back. I don't have I think shoulder
Speaker 1: thing though they start figuring on that. No, definitely, But
Speaker 1: and so I don't have a problem with anybody that
Speaker 1: thinks Dalvin Cook's a better player than Leonard Fournette. But
Speaker 1: I don't think that makes Leonard Fournette a bad player.
Speaker 1: Which is that draft narrative that we get into. I mean,
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett's going to be a top fifteen or twenty pick,
Speaker 1: I think. And the thing with Fournette is he's always
Speaker 1: been bigger, faster, stronger, so he's never had to really
Speaker 1: use nuance with his running style, right, so that just
Speaker 1: won't be the case in the NFL. Something you'll have
Speaker 1: to learn and adapt. We just we haven't seen a
Speaker 1: running back like Leonard Fournette coming to the NFL. I mean,
Speaker 1: there just isn't a real logical comparison. They need the
Speaker 1: Alabama kids. You know, when you look at those Alabama
Speaker 1: kids at all won the hot you know, those Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I hate it's it's not fair because
Speaker 1: he I mean, and I'm he's not on that level.
Speaker 1: But he I mean, he has always reminded me of
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. Peterson was way better, way better. But that's
Speaker 1: that style of pound runner, right, just freaks, I mean guys,
Speaker 1: athletic freaks who can beat you with power or speed.
Speaker 1: And I think Peterson was better coming out of college.
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't try to convince anybody otherwise, but
Speaker 1: that's the natural comparison. That the closest comparison that I
Speaker 1: can make in terms of body type and athletic ability
Speaker 1: is Thomas Davis, the linebacker for the Panthers. That's what
Speaker 1: kind of freak that Leonard Fournette. But in terms of
Speaker 1: a running back, I just I cannot find that you know,
Speaker 1: Apple's apples comparison, I don't. I don't think we have one,
Speaker 1: and that that will be something that has talked about
Speaker 1: in war rooms when Fournette is mentioned. You've got Solomon
Speaker 1: Thomas listed as a defensive lineman. Do you have a
Speaker 1: spot for him? To me, he's a left end who
Speaker 1: you move him inside on on passing downs? All Right,
Speaker 1: we talked about Peppers being a guy that you know
Speaker 1: you have to have a plan for him before you
Speaker 1: draft him. Thomas is the opposite. I don't need a
Speaker 1: plan get him on my team. I'll figure out how
Speaker 1: to get He's incredible, his initial quickness, his ability to
Speaker 1: use his hands. I mean that North Carolina that tape
Speaker 1: is ridiculous against Notre Dame, same type of thing. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna do really well to combine Test off
Speaker 1: the charts. Salomon Thomas number five on my initial board.
Speaker 1: I think he ends up somewhere in that top ten.
Speaker 1: Some team in that top ten is gonna get a
Speaker 1: really good player, Marshawn Lattimore over Test Tabor. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be ye. That's the two cornerbacks in this draft. That's
Speaker 1: why you were watching tape on him this morning. I'm Lattimore.
Speaker 1: Which one Latimore were you and I? And I thought
Speaker 1: Tabor was. I thought Tabor was my number one guy
Speaker 1: at that corner until until I watched Lattimore. You and
Speaker 1: I were watching Conley Gary on the other Ohio State
Speaker 1: corner right last week, and I couldn't take my eyes
Speaker 1: off number two. Yeah, you know a guy that I
Speaker 1: think very highly of. But even when I'm trying to
Speaker 1: watch Conley, I'm watching Lattimore just because he's such a
Speaker 1: special athlete. He's twitchy. Uh, you just don't see separation
Speaker 1: between him and the receiver. And when there is separation,
Speaker 1: he was able to make that up before the ball arrived.
Speaker 1: Knock it down, get the interception. The biggest issue with
Speaker 1: him is he missed his first two years due to
Speaker 1: hamstring issues. Right, is there a long term thing going
Speaker 1: on there? That's something I mean, howboy fans know all
Speaker 1: about that, right, So it's something that will be fleshed
Speaker 1: out throughout the process, the combine and the medicals. But
Speaker 1: based on tape, Marshawn Lattimore my number one corner in
Speaker 1: a top ten pick, Derek Barnett is listed as your
Speaker 1: first defensive end at fifteen. What to do well, not
Speaker 1: my first defensive end, but yeah, I'm sorry as far
Speaker 1: as I'm not my bad. I was thinking of those
Speaker 1: top guys. Maybe the guy that that next level guy,
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett is gonna be very There's me a lot
Speaker 1: of discussions about him because he's not naturally explosive. He
Speaker 1: saw left end, Yeah, he's didn't see a wright ending right,
Speaker 1: A powerful very good against the run. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a guy that broke Reggier White's school Sack record
Speaker 1: of Tennessee. Yeah, the production Tennessee's had tremendous rushers ut history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't take away the production he had. But Derek Barnett,
Speaker 1: what do you do with him? I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: he I was watching the Alabama game and he blew
Speaker 1: by Cam Robertson like he was standing there. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, wait a minute, I think this guy's
Speaker 1: a left end, and he goes blow and buy him
Speaker 1: right there. The reason I laughed is and I get
Speaker 1: frustrated with you, so I can only imagine our listeners
Speaker 1: because everybody's a left end. I just want to write
Speaker 1: end like I'm trying to find a right in. I know,
Speaker 1: but there's so many. But but he talks about okay,
Speaker 1: talk about the traits that make a great right end,
Speaker 1: initial quickness. I know they're hard to find. I did
Speaker 1: he say the guy was not? I know, I know
Speaker 1: that they're hard to find. But just everybody, everybody say
Speaker 1: it's a left end or a three technique right, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: they need to. Tim Williams to me, is a is
Speaker 1: a right end? Kinley? Yeah, Tach McKay, that's those are
Speaker 1: right ends. Tim Williams is three to four stand up guy.
Speaker 1: That's how that's what he can put his hand on
Speaker 1: the ground. Man, he comes screaming off the edge, off
Speaker 1: the stuff, off the field problems. He'll be just let
Speaker 1: my guy know what, Spence, that's probably what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You love him, I love him. And then he's gonna
Speaker 1: go east and then and then you know, and then
Speaker 1: the second round, everybody's gonna yell at me because man,
Speaker 1: they got value for that guy. I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's gonna be something Bad's gonna happen. Randy Gregory. I mean,
Speaker 1: it could be a similar situation where Randy greg no one,
Speaker 1: no one's gonna want to stomach that. You say, Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory and Tim Williams are gonna go Brian shut up.
Speaker 1: We want boy scouts, Well, you want players players? The
Speaker 1: ultimate dilemma? Any other surprises on this top fifty? We
Speaker 1: ask you about Pat Mahomes at fifty. Oh yeah, Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: Oh let's do it. Just what this guy's raw as sushi?
Speaker 1: All right? He is so raw is how about that?
Speaker 1: Have you watched him as a guy. He's playing backyard
Speaker 1: football out there. I mean there's just there's no rhyme
Speaker 1: or reason that would he would you be surprised if
Speaker 1: he was picked in the first round. I saw him
Speaker 1: mocked in the first round. Would the other day twenty ninth?
Speaker 1: I don't know how he just he's not going to
Speaker 1: play as a rookie and I'm not sure he can
Speaker 1: play as a second year guy in the NFL. Do
Speaker 1: you like him better than Dak Prescott coming out of
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, Well, they're very different because when you know Dak,
Speaker 1: he was established, you know what you're You felt like
Speaker 1: you knew what you're getting, even though we were wrong
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott. Where Mahomes, he's so raw, there's so
Speaker 1: much you're drafting him for upside. I haven't watched tape
Speaker 1: of Pat Mahomes, but I've seen him play enough games
Speaker 1: to say, like, how do you even evaluate him? Every
Speaker 1: single play is just can't evaluate him? Throwing the football, great,
Speaker 1: He's got an he's got a great arm after a
Speaker 1: great arm after he did think did you think that
Speaker 1: these coaches could do what they did with Dak Prescott?
Speaker 1: It's it was impres I didn't think any coaches could. Okay,
Speaker 1: but Dak Prescott was taking the snap from shotgun, standing
Speaker 1: in a pocket and throwing the ball in the sec
Speaker 1: He freaking big twelve doesn't play defense. I would I
Speaker 1: and I'm just Oklahoma. We were talking about Oklahoma guys.
Speaker 1: I would bet that half of Pat Mahome, sixty percent
Speaker 1: of Pat mahomes throws have come from outside the pocket.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, like watch Pat mechanics. Skinny on Pat Mohome.
Speaker 1: Judge it, mccannic, he has zero mccannics. Well, this is
Speaker 1: a guy who played baseball most of his life. He
Speaker 1: was a basic, his dad was in yeah, yeah years.
Speaker 1: He has that pedigree. He's never worked with the quarterback coach.
Speaker 1: He's never you know, shot it out there book. Well, no,
Speaker 1: it's just he's never really put the time in to be,
Speaker 1: you know, a full time quarterback. Here's always been baseball,
Speaker 1: always been basketball. So you know, and this is a
Speaker 1: true junior that's coming out. This isn't a red shirt senior.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who played in Texas Tech System
Speaker 1: who has never produced a quality NFL quarterbacker. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: I mean that Texas Tech System. I mean Adam Harrold
Speaker 1: kicked around for a while, but oh no, I understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I mean that system does not produce
Speaker 1: NFL quality quarterbacks. This guy is different. He's I mean,
Speaker 1: I obviously I put him at number fifty. Yeah, look
Speaker 1: that you think something of it. Baker Field turns out well,
Speaker 1: that counts as he was there for a year. But
Speaker 1: they didn't want him, right, I mean, that's why he transferred.
Speaker 1: So with Mahomes where he could be three years from now,
Speaker 1: was why you draft him and the trades the same
Speaker 1: thing about Prescott. I'm just asking, no, I don't and
Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to sit here. No, No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying of a guy that i'm sounding, I'm saying
Speaker 1: no because I did not think Dak would be a
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, NFL MVP contender as a rookie.
Speaker 1: I did not think. I think I think a day
Speaker 1: through the draft, if you go back and listen, there
Speaker 1: were some very positive things said about Dak Prescott there
Speaker 1: and there were and I think there was a foundation
Speaker 1: there to say, Okay, this guy's got some stuff to
Speaker 1: work on. He played out of the shotgun his whole career.
Speaker 1: He's not he hasn't played NFL style football, but like
Speaker 1: he played quarterback though, and Pat Mahomes obviously plays quarterback,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's insane, Like watching him play is
Speaker 1: not any It's not even the same planet as what
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback Mahomes or Jacoby Brissett. I mean, I'll I'll
Speaker 1: take a chance on the upside. Homes. Mahomes has higher upside,
Speaker 1: but Brissett's more ready to play or was more ready
Speaker 1: to play quarterback right away. It depends what you want.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a guy that could be a
Speaker 1: number two for you as a rookie, then that's Brissette.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a guy that you can stash
Speaker 1: and not have to worry about, this guy you weren't
Speaker 1: gonna have to play him. Hey, but now the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are in a fun like it's fun to think how
Speaker 1: much things have changed for this team because now, like
Speaker 1: this time last year, we're like, we gotta find the guy.
Speaker 1: We got to find the guy. But now you're like, well,
Speaker 1: we have our quarterback. We were set for a decade.
Speaker 1: Let's draft this dude and see what the hell he
Speaker 1: does over the next Mahomes to me is Johnny Manziel,
Speaker 1: except he's clean off the field. He's bigger, and he
Speaker 1: has a better arm. So that's why I have at
Speaker 1: number fifty. But that's also why I don't want to
Speaker 1: see him for at least a year and a half
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Bas Dane's basically saying, I don't know
Speaker 1: how the hell this is gonna work, but there's always
Speaker 1: there to make me injury. He just gave you a name.
Speaker 1: On the first day of the draft show, Kit, do
Speaker 1: we have a time for one call? We do, and
Speaker 1: it's all the way around the world. Reggie in Germany. Oh, Reggie,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Draft show. We're all doing great. You've
Speaker 1: got the last word. What do you got man? Okay,
Speaker 1: really quickly, thank you. Swing around. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: guys a real right defensive end. Okay, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: home on you on my alma modes, say, what do
Speaker 1: you think about Harold Landry? Harold Landry from Boston College.
Speaker 1: He's actually not in this draft. He a junior, decided
Speaker 1: to go back to school. So he's a very good player.
Speaker 1: But we'll be talking about next year. You're there, Reggie,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, he did you hear? Oh? As we
Speaker 1: got one more Kent. Maybe we don't that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: Reggie on he was all the way around the world.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to mean this week. Hope Carold Danger is
Speaker 1: a very good player junior, but we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: next year. A senior decided to go back for our
Speaker 1: junior decided to go back for a senior season. I
Speaker 1: think a solid portion of the Cowboys fan base isn't
Speaker 1: ready for this yet. They're still licking their wounds from Sunday,
Speaker 1: but they'll come around, all right, real quick. Knit Before
Speaker 1: we get out of here, tell everybody how they can
Speaker 1: get this podcast and stuff like that. Where we go
Speaker 1: to iTunes, search the Draft Show, subscribe there. It'll also
Speaker 1: be available on Dallas Cowboys dot com, and the audio
Speaker 1: and video sections of the Draft Show also on Periscope.
Speaker 1: You can go back and watch on demand all right too,
Speaker 1: I think twenty four hours after we air, so we'll
Speaker 1: be doing this all next week at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: Live times will be posted on Dallas Cowboys dot com,
Speaker 1: so they're stay tuned to the Twitter and all that. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: so yeah, the good reasons. So for my for my
Speaker 1: scouting buddies here, for David Hellman, for Dane Brugler, for
Speaker 1: I also want to thank Ed K. Hill. I want
Speaker 1: to thank Derek Eagleton too for letting us do this
Speaker 1: show every week. This has been the Draft Show from
Speaker 1: the SNBBC Mortgage Studios. We will see you Tuesday from Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 1: Have a good week. This has been a production of
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.