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Speaker 1: Select Ezekiel Elliott and now your hosts Dame Brugler, David

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Speaker 1: Hellman and Brian brought us Well. Once again, we're back

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Speaker 1: So by David Hellman, writer from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: try and use this more often, especially when we get

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Speaker 1: and you know, the the other game. But we got

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Speaker 1: And we focus on the Senior Bowl because the Senior

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Speaker 1: power that we've seen in previous Senior Bowls, namely last year.

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Speaker 1: there's no question, and the Senior Bowl is unique. I

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen and Dabiel? I mean we know who he is. Really,

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Speaker 1: help himself. Yeah, that's where and Dave, we you know

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was really a coach driven pick. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a great opportunity. I mean,

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, you were getting into this when we

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Speaker 1: let in the first segment and I cut you off

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Speaker 1: so rudely. So that's cool. We're gonna start with that.

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Speaker 1: Won't be the last time. I don't think there's a

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Speaker 1: more polarizing figure in the draft, at least in this going,

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Speaker 1: this early going, than Jabral Peppers. So Billy wants to

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Speaker 1: know why is Ji Jabril Peppers seemingly falling down the

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Speaker 1: draft board and does that put him in the Cowboys range?

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Speaker 1: Just kind of talk to me about what's going on

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Speaker 1: with this guy. Well, if you if you read my colleagues,

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Speaker 1: top fifty puts him right in range for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, it's right. I have him at

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Speaker 1: thirty two. I believe yes, thirty two. Yeah. So with that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I to me, this is gonna sound

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Speaker 1: really strange. I think he's either gonna and you can't

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Speaker 1: find a position for him. But you could say he's

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Speaker 1: a football player, say damn year exactly. Now, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you go with that. But I'm having a problem finding

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Speaker 1: a spot where I really think you can maximize his talent.

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Speaker 1: That's the issue because he's a very good player in

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Speaker 1: terms of athleticism, terms of football instincts. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: to like about him. But where you play him is

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Speaker 1: the key. His his ability and coverage is below average,

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Speaker 1: and that's really the issue is loose player. Can you

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Speaker 1: You know, you have need a guy that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: coming up downhill the entire time. If so, then maybe

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Speaker 1: he's a better linebacker. But we're talking about a guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna be eaten up by blockers near the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: So where do you play a talent like this? I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you there will be coaches when they get involved

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Speaker 1: in the process that look at his tape and they say,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not a running back. That's exactly where

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Speaker 1: I would play him. I'm glad you said that. Well,

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Speaker 1: you saved me from saying I'm going on for two

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Speaker 1: minutes about this. I think he's a running back. I

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Speaker 1: really do. I think you watch him carry the ball

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Speaker 1: in some of these situations where the wildcat returner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has got some loose playability. He really does. So

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Speaker 1: this is like the most known name among defensive backs

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Speaker 1: in the draft. I'm not saying the best. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying the one that people know, and you're telling the

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Speaker 1: most not on the right side of the ball. Me personally,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear him say that. But and see

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Speaker 1: that's the issue. You just said, how he's the most

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Speaker 1: well known. Sure, that's what got him to the Heisman, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: he's the most well known player. He wasn't a top

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Speaker 1: three player on that Michigan defense this year and the

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Speaker 1: cornerback's going to be in Mobile this week. Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 1: at corner is better. Taco Charleton a defensivendos better that

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Speaker 1: Michigan defense is really loaded and Peppers, while a nice

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Speaker 1: player and definitely made an impact. The splash plays, the

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Speaker 1: ESPN highlights stats with guide him to the Heisman. That's

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Speaker 1: what has been generating all his buzz about him. But

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Speaker 1: when you really study the tape, more questions than answers

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Speaker 1: with Peppers. So, you know, could it be a situation

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Speaker 1: like Landing Collins, the former Alabama safety doing some nice

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Speaker 1: things with the Giants who his big thing? The big

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Speaker 1: But the Alabama safety has had that problem. We go

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Speaker 1: back to Mark Barron was another one, but now fast

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Speaker 1: forward and he's doing a lot better in that area.

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Speaker 1: So could Peppers be a similar situation where you know,

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Speaker 1: we say we look at him and say, look, he's

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Speaker 1: an lead athlete, there's a lot to like about his

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Speaker 1: football intelligence, will draft him and we'll coach the rest

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Speaker 1: out of him, similar to a call Ins. But the

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Speaker 1: bigger question, okay, what's his value? Then? Where do you

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking a guy like that that needs coached

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Speaker 1: up and too? In Pepper's defense, I do think that

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Speaker 1: He'll have a much better chance to be comfortable with

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Speaker 1: his situation because at Michigan he was spending time in

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Speaker 1: a defensive meeting room. Then he's going to the offense.

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Speaker 1: Then he's one of the special teams. He had to

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Speaker 1: know the offensive playbook. It's not like they had five

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Speaker 1: plays for him, and they did. They did this direct snaps,

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Speaker 1: So I think he was stretched so thin that it

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Speaker 1: really hurt him on defense. Once he has a chance

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Speaker 1: to focus on one position, one set of responsibilities, that

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Speaker 1: would really helps development. But still, I mean I put

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Speaker 1: him at number thirty two on my board, so I

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Speaker 1: still have some questions there. Okay, And assuming he's not

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Speaker 1: playing running back in the NFL, which I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he couldn't, assuming he doesn't quickly safety or corner, I mean,

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Speaker 1: where would you play him? Well, I think Dane would

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Speaker 1: play him a lineback, well, a hybrid linebacker, dab Buchanan

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Speaker 1: what he's doing in Arizona that but does he really

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Speaker 1: tackle that? Well, See, that's gonna be a big question

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Speaker 1: about people gonna watch tape and see he doesn't tackle great. No,

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Speaker 1: that's the problem. And you worry about him playing linebacker

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Speaker 1: at his size, maybe he's a will linebacker. I that

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Speaker 1: this is the big You got a great football player,

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Speaker 1: but you got to figure out I totally agree with

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Speaker 1: everything he said. I'm very excited because we're one show

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Speaker 1: in the Peppers is going to turn into your Bosa

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Speaker 1: for this year. Well no, no, I mean I'm not

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Speaker 1: calling no, no, no no. I will say this though,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to like he like Dane says,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to put him at one spot

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Speaker 1: and let him flourish it that spot. And there are

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Speaker 1: there are times when you say, look, we'll draft him,

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Speaker 1: we'll figure out how to play him later. This is

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Speaker 1: not that case with Peppers. You have to have a

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Speaker 1: plan in place before you draft him. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: draft him and try and fit him in later. He

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Speaker 1: could be at your spot at twenty eight. That's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: It's a great segue. Let's get to some other questions.

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Speaker 1: Paul wants to know. I'm kind of putting all on

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Speaker 1: the spot here. I know you don't have boards or

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Speaker 1: rankings real but Cowboys fans want edge rushers and they

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Speaker 1: want corners, and they're picking twenty eighth. So throw me

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Speaker 1: some names that are realistic here for that range for

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Speaker 1: those positions. Well, I think the two positions that the

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Speaker 1: strongest this year. Yeah, I think you're a great shape, right,

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Speaker 1: I think you're a great shape. Go ahead, you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've got the thing. The names I've got. We talked

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Speaker 1: about Lawson, we talked about McKinley, Tim Williams. Now, okay,

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Speaker 1: there's some stuff baggage. Now get ready, and you know

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Speaker 1: people are gonna say, you know what, how how severe

580
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Speaker 1: is the baggage, Brian? But those are names of right ends. McKinley, Lawson, Williams.

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Speaker 1: People talk about Burnett or some mean Burnett at a

582
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Speaker 1: Tennessee and they talk about McDowell out of Michigan State.

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Speaker 1: Those are left ends. To me, am I am I

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Speaker 1: wrong about that? I agree with you. So I'm taking

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Speaker 1: you know, and then if you want to go down

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Speaker 1: the line, say you go corner first. The second round

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Speaker 1: right ends. I had the smooth kid from Illinois and

588
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Speaker 1: then I had to get the Harris kid from Missouri.

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Speaker 1: Those were guys I were looking at as right defensive ends,

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Speaker 1: and I think look at it at the pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Jonathan Allen, Solomon Thomas Derek Barnett crossed those

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Speaker 1: guys off. They're not going to be there at twenty

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Speaker 1: eight unless something something happens now in the draft. I

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Speaker 1: think you know you mentioned you said those names with

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Speaker 1: Tim Williams, with his baggage, he could follow that far.

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Speaker 1: Tack McKinley, he's going to blow up the combine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a real riser throughout

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Speaker 1: this process. He might play himself out of that twenty

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Speaker 1: eight pick. We might not be there. Carl Lawson, guy

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Speaker 1: we talked about. I think he's in that mix. Medicals

601
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Speaker 1: will be important for him. Charles Harris from Missouri, a

602
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Speaker 1: guy who's just he's very young in football years. Didn't

603
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Speaker 1: start playing football really until he's a junior in high school.

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Speaker 1: They moved him around a little bit with that scheme

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Speaker 1: at Missouri. You know, once he has a chance to

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Speaker 1: really learn the position, I think he could blossom. One

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Speaker 1: of the I think more. You know used the word

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Speaker 1: polarizing with Peppers. A polarizing guy's gonna be DeMarcus Walker

609
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Speaker 1: from Florida State because I think he's a three technique myself.

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Speaker 1: That's it's another guy, you know, That's why I didn't

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Speaker 1: listen him because in my mind, I got Peppers is

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Speaker 1: a tweener. Yeah, and the same thing with Walker. He

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Speaker 1: you could see him. You know, the production is great.

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Speaker 1: You watch his splash plays, he's really impressive. But those

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Speaker 1: splash plays are coming from the three technique position where

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Speaker 1: he has space against the guard and the guard has

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Speaker 1: no shot. Right, we saw it on the old Misty. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So but he's not going to be able to play

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Speaker 1: three technique on first and second down, right, So what

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Speaker 1: is he is? He a left end on first and

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Speaker 1: second down? He movement inside down. See that's that that

622
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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people are talking about him,

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Speaker 1: and I told you I felt like that he was

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Speaker 1: better inside, had a better chance to win against a

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Speaker 1: guard than I did against an offensive tackle. You're absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys left position flex, I know, but but you need

627
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Speaker 1: you need that. They really need a right end. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know that's it's a good to play rotation. And

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Speaker 1: they want to have pair Someway with Benson Mayowa. You

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna they're gonna have to go wither. Here's

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Speaker 1: a name for Cowboys fans to remember. Derek Rivers from

632
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Speaker 1: Youngstown State, Okay, is a guy that just got bumped

633
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Speaker 1: up to mobile. He will be at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He has a chance to move up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Really impressive athlete. He could play right in for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: He might put himself on the top one hundred range

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Speaker 1: right now, having the fourth round. But he's a guy

638
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: to look at if they don't go pass run. There's

639
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: a lot of offensive tackles I believe in this Senior Bowl.

640
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean that if you look at the position, it

641
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: might be the best to me the offensive tackle group.

642
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: So he'll get some opportunities against some guys that might

643
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: be an opportunity. Corners real quick, just corner real quick

644
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: in that group. Twenty eight white from l Shoe Sidney Jones.

645
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Where do you think Sidney Jones is? City Jones got

646
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: a guy that's just mocked here by yeah hyper for

647
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: whatever that's worth. Yeah yeah, And I've had him here

648
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: in my mocks multiple times. It makes sense. Sidney Jones

649
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: from Washington, a guy who he's the better the corners

650
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: from who's the better the two corners at Washington? I

651
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: like Jones better. I mean that's Kemon King. He's long,

652
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: he's tall, he can run disappointing he turned down. He's

653
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: senior bowl in. Yeah, he could have helped himself. But

654
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: a good player. But yeah, give me, give me Sidney Jones.

655
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Some of my second round guys too that I had

656
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: on my board and I don't I'm tankerously from Clemson.

657
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Desmond King was a guy I think if he had

658
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: to come out last year, would have been a for

659
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: sure first round pick. I don't know if he's a safety.

660
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: I like him better at safe. I think that's a question.

661
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: You have to think. It's a great it's a great segue. Actually, Yeah.

662
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: And Humphrey from Alabama is another guy that is a

663
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: long guy that can't kind of really run, but he's

664
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: a physical son of a gun. All Right, you just

665
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: kind of touch on this. But Alfredo wants to know

666
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: other than Hooker and Adams. Yeah, the Ohio State and

667
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: LSU guys who I don't figure to be in play

668
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Safeties that you like in this draft. Well,

669
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: that's I'm saying. You got to project Desmond King as

670
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: a Safety's that he's big. He's a big guy. He's

671
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: a big guy, and he's built. He's not off, you know,

672
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: he's not tall. He's about five eleven, but he's built

673
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah and two fifteen and he'll hit you.

674
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: He's as tough as he is. He's a cheap shot

675
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: guy too, which is kind of crazy. He's not afraid

676
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: to like him. Oh yeah, he'll take a run at guys.

677
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: The player will be over and he'll take a run

678
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: at somebody. He's not afraid to take a run. So

679
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: I kind of like his attitude about that. I thought

680
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: too that Marlon Humphrey was a guy too that was

681
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: a little bit maybe I thought about could play as

682
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: a free safety there. Marcus Williams from Utah solid play,

683
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: solid player, but yeah, Budha Baker is a guy who bakers.

684
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: Another one that's twenty eight. I think could be a possibility.

685
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: If there's a player that's your honey Badger. Yeah, there's

686
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: a player that's close to the honey Badgers. Now he's

687
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: not I'm not saying he's Tyron Matthew. But if there

688
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: is a player that comes closest to that honey Badger

689
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: or comparison, it's Buddha Baker. With everything that he does

690
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: us in pass carverage against the run, yeah, physical, his

691
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: play range five ninety five though, is his height, Yeah,

692
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: that's nine. Stop the badger. No, but the badger's get

693
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: Badger's rare. Now, the badger is rare when when it

694
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: comes to that quickness and all that. But this, you know,

695
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: I think pass rusher is number one. Pass rusher in

696
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: corner A one A one B. Safety might be that

697
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: next position in terms of talent at the top and

698
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: in depth throughout the draft. Yeah, I love everything y'all

699
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: are saying. Um, I'll answer this one from Sean well,

700
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: thank you. Well, that's good. He's asking about compensatory picks. Yeah, um,

701
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: are they in line for any from last year? Who

702
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: did they lose in free agency? Well, they lost their

703
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: didn't they have to do up at five for the

704
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: quarterback Matt Castle? Matt Castle in line. Other than that,

705
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: I think they got their full compliments of picks. I'm

706
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 1: trying to think of anybody they lost. I can't remember

707
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: what I had for breakfast, to be honest, I remember

708
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: any major losses in free agency last year. Yeah, unless

709
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm just completely drawing a blank, Well, I think and

710
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: then and then I mean people thinking, you know, yes,

711
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: they could be in line for a compensatory pick. When,

712
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: if or when Ron Leary leaves in free agency eighteen.

713
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: You would not get that for this draft. And if

714
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: you do something with Romo, sure, sure, that's a big one.

715
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: This is the first year compensatory picks are a to

716
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: be traded. Yes, and now we got to pay attention.

717
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: The compens story used to be hammer and hammer and hammer, hammer,

718
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: and now it's now it's like, whoa wait, that pick

719
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: just got moved. I'm sitting here, Prescott was a compensed

720
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: story pick. That is true. And actually for the offensive

721
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: tackle that went to Jacksonville, I believe that's what they want.

722
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell, Yes, because your your Murray pick got wiped

723
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: out by the Hardy signing. So thank you, Jeremy Parnell.

724
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: So long story short, I don't expect the Cowboys to

725
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: have a lot in the way of compensatory picks this year.

726
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: Maybe next year in eighteen. Yes yeah uh. Also shout

727
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: out to another Nick, happy birthday, you asked for it,

728
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: Good for you, Happy birthday. Um okay, and then a

729
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: third Nick, Oh no second next sorright whatever? Even with

730
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: the need for defense, and think another one people want

731
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: to hear a lot about is wide receiver you got

732
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams and Bryce Butler heading for free agency. How

733
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: do you feel about the receiver class twenty eight second round? Also,

734
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: And I think another interesting aspect of this is, you know,

735
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: you don't think of this team as needing offense is

736
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: certainly not in the first round, but with the way

737
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: that things shaping up, you think that's conceivable that that's

738
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: your best bet at twenty eight defense, no receiver receiver,

739
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: you know what it could be. It depending on how

740
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: this thing stretches with defensive end when you look at

741
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: the defensive ends, when you look at the corners. I mean,

742
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: we just went through a litany of guys right there,

743
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: but the wide receiver group will stretch a little bit too. Here.

744
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: You know, when you start talking about when you get

745
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: into the especially in the second round, I know there's

746
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: three guys in the top of the top of the thing.

747
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: And I think when you you have Williams in your

748
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: top fifty over Davis number one. Yeah, and you like

749
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: Davis better? Right? I do? I like Davis. I have

750
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: one of them now based only on that, but that's

751
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. There's three there's three guys right there

752
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: that I mean, and you and you also include Ross

753
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: in that mix of the thing. Those are the top

754
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: three guys, so this thing might stretch a little bit.

755
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Maybe not the top two. But if Ross but Ros

756
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: would get there at twenty eight, he'll be very interesting.

757
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: Because this is a player that I see a Brandon

758
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: Cooks type of guy. You know, he's undersized, but he

759
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: can fly. Uh. He can beat you at every level

760
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: of defense. And he's not just a speedster. He is

761
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: a polished route runner. He has some injury stuff in

762
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: his past with his knees, doesn't have the biggest catch radius.

763
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: He's not going to be a guy that wins routinely

764
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: in traffic, but he's a playmaker. He can be a

765
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: home run threat. There's a lot to like about. Keep

766
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: an eye in the Reynolds kid from Texas, A and M.

767
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: He'll be it. You like him. I did like him.

768
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: I liked him in the fact that I thought it

769
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: was a guy that built up speed as he ran.

770
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a guy that's everyone loves guys. Don't

771
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I see a number four receiver,

772
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: see a four in him? I see a four? I

773
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: don't I don't see. So then that means you don't

774
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: have him, and you don't have him, you would have

775
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: him been three four on your board then right, got

776
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: him in the four. Okay, I don't I get it.

777
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: I understand why people like him. Um he's a long

778
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: stride or he deep, he can you know, jump balls,

779
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't trust him as a number two.

780
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: I think there's too many times him or Juju from

781
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: from as far as trust trust is. What do you mean? Okay?

782
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you would take Juju over him. It

783
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: just depends what kind of role I'm looking for. Juju

784
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: might be best in the slot though. Yeah, you know

785
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: where a guy that's gonna find open space and zones

786
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, can beat you up. Physics Smith Schuster,

787
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: Jus were t usc My biggest thing with Reynolds, and

788
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: this is what I need to see from him, like

789
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: to change my mind. He got beaten up by corners

790
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: and they got in his face and they got physical.

791
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: You're going to see the press coverage stuff from the scene.

792
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: They knocked him out of bounds. He couldn't do anything

793
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: about it. They knocked him off his route, he couldn't

794
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: do anything about it. In the NFL He's going to

795
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: see a lot of press coverage, and I just don't

796
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: see him enough getting off that press coverage and making

797
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: plays downfield. How about Westbrook, another guy who I wish

798
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: was going to be in mobile this Yeah, unfortunately he

799
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: decided to pull out. He he's getting some bad advice,

800
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: but an explosive guy. He's got some baggage as well.

801
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: Can he play consistently on the outside. I see a

802
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: little bit of Will Fuller in him? Um, you know

803
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: the good you had? Like we watched him last night

804
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: for about thirty minutes, and I just saw DeShawn Jackson.

805
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: That's the same measurables. Yeah, yeah, gonna run in the

806
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: four threes. Yeah, I don't like I watched thirty minutes

807
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: of tape, but like I don't think of him as

808
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: like this polished complete receipt. He's but he's got the

809
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: speed and the breakout ability to beat ninety percent of people.

810
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: I mean, DeShawn Jackson's a one trick pony, but it's

811
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: been working for a decade. Less. If him or Shepherd

812
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, you like Shepherd him at Oklahoma better. I

813
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: like Shepherd's reliability better. Westbrook has more home run potential

814
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: to him. I think Shepherds. He Shepherd's are more polished receiver, right,

815
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: and is coming out of Westbrooks. Youre will will Fuller.

816
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna drop that end zone pass on the fifty

817
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: yards exactly. He snatched a few of them, though he

818
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: had a couple of end scrabs. Yeah, but he also

819
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: played in the Big twelve against terrible defenses. Now that's

820
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: that's Dane Burglar at DP Burglar. How'd westbrook do against

821
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State? Not too well? Not too well. He weighs

822
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy. Yeah, okay, right, Jenkins is

823
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna eat him alive, Dave, thank you so much for that.

824
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate the Twitter on twenty Thanks everybody that fired

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Speaker 1: in their Twitter. Okay, we're gonna take our last break

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna put

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler on the hot seat. Might even take one

828
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Speaker 1: or two of your calls eight eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: five two two ninety seven. Uh, Dane Brugler's top fifty.

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Speaker 1: Back here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios, Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: Dain Burglar, David Helman, Kent Garrison, executive producer. Want to

873
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Speaker 1: get into Dame Burglar's top one top fifty. Excuse me

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Speaker 1: before you get into that, though I teased about any calls. Kent,

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Speaker 1: you got me there. My friend lining them up as

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Speaker 1: we speak. Okay, is there anybody anybody you want to

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Speaker 1: get to right now? Or you want to just keep

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00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: lining them up. We'll line them up. Call us a five,

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Speaker 1: two nine seven. We'll preview a little this and it

880
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: will hit some calls. Okay, sounds good. You just jump

881
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: in anytime you want. Okay, let's get into Dame Bruler's

882
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: Top fifty. This is his first edition of the Top

883
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: fifty that he put out. This is they say the

884
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: in the in the internet world one point. Oh, I

885
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: never quite understood that. But I'll go with a software thing.

886
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it, but I'm learning. But yeah,

887
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: this is his first one. This will this will change.

888
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean there'll be information, they'll fluctuate a little bit.

889
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: But I always like the first one because I think

890
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: that's really the generally that's the I always like the

891
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: draft board when you when you built it and it

892
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: as what you do and just watching the tape. And

893
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: then I always took a picture of the draft board

894
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: because I always felt like that's the best our board

895
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: was going to be, because it all it was was

896
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: about the tape. It wasn't about interviews, medical information, guys

897
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: putting on gas masks, you know, laremy tunsil. You know,

898
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't about all that stuff. Oh boy. So and

899
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: by the way, that's scouts are just they threw up

900
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: in the mouth when they saw that, you know, that

901
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: whole thing. But you gotta know about falling out of

902
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: the top ten, Yeah, you gotta know about that. All right,

903
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: Let's get into this Dane Brewer's Top fet and I

904
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: encourage you to go to CBS Sports dot com Dane's

905
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: Top fifties. On that. There's a couple, mom, I want

906
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: to look at here at picks or at picks at

907
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: the player position three and four. You have two safeties,

908
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: really good safety Hooker and Adams. Tell us the thought

909
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: process with Hooker and Adams going back to back and

910
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: tell me the last time, and I've been doing this

911
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety one. I can't remember two safeties being

912
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: that high, too highly considered in a draft. I've seen

913
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: one safety be up there, but I haven't seen two.

914
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: And you've got him back to back. We've seen, you know,

915
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: a safety go in the top five. It's not, you know, uncommon, right.

916
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: Sean Taylor comes immediately to mind. Eric Turner back in

917
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: the early nineties, he went like second overall, highest it's

918
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: ever been. Yeah, right, So it's not impossible. And really

919
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: it's not because I don't teams don't value the safety position.

920
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: It's because they're just haven't been team or safety's worthy

921
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: of a top five to ten pick. That's not the case.

922
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: This year. You have Malie Cooker and Jamal Adams, two

923
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: guys that are arguably two of the five best players

924
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: in this draft overall. They have a chance to go

925
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: very high. With Millie Cooker. Interesting guy because it's only

926
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: one year starter, Uh play it was a basketball guy.

927
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: Most of his life's quick. Oh yeah, the amount of

928
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: movement can cover yeah in his range. His ball skills,

929
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: the ball production was outstanding at seven interceptions this year.

930
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: He has the acrobatic ball skills to come down with

931
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: those interceptions. So much to like about him. Very tough

932
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: as a run defender and needs to work on some angles,

933
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: but overall a very good starting free safety who can cover.

934
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: Tell me about Adams a little bit. Will you remember

935
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: it from your days at Ellis and you Uh, he's

936
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. I was actually like when

937
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: we when you when when you tease this, I was

938
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: just like, man, I hate that he's not even a

939
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: consideration just because he's gonna go way before. Yeah. I

940
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: actually ran into him at the Green Bay game. He

941
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: was there. He's from Carrol Tsel No, No, I was.

942
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: I would though, and that's I mean, he's he's he

943
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: got picks in college. But I don't think of him

944
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: as like that ball hawk guy. He's just a heat

945
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: seeking missile. He comes down to the line, he goes

946
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: back in coverage. He he made a play against Lamar

947
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: Jackson and Louisville in the ball game where he chased

948
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: the guy down from across the field and came from

949
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't anywhere near his assignment, and he stopped the

950
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: guy for like a three yard game coming from the

951
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: other side of the formation around the line. He's just

952
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: super fast, super great instincts, makes plays everywhere. I don't

953
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be like an eight or nine

954
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: pick type of guy, but he's just he's gonna be

955
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: in on every tackle. He's gonna know where the ball

956
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: is going before the quarterback does. He's so much fun.

957
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: And the other thing that scouts love about him besides

958
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: his DNA his dad was a great football player. But

959
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: he's an alpha. I mean, he's a leader. He's the

960
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: guy who's very vocal, very energet. His teammates feed off

961
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: that energy, and that's something that you can see clearly

962
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: on tape, but also something that coaches rave about, his

963
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: teammates rave about. That's something that will play really well

964
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: in interviews, and you feel pretty good about the player

965
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: you're getting with Jamal Adams. Yeah, he didn't have to

966
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: grow into his role at LSU. He was established from

967
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: day one for sure. Dalvin Cook at seven, Leonard Fournette

968
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: at twelve fell mede. The thinking behind that, Yeah, I

969
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: think everyone kind of assumed Leonard Fournette was going to

970
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: be the top running back, you know, when as soon

971
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: as he became a junior and was eligible for the draft.

972
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I prefer Dalvin Cook and really it's because there's more

973
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: that goes into the running back position than just being big,

974
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: fast and powerful, which Leonard Fournette is, And obviously Leonard

975
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: Fournett's a very very good prospect to have him at

976
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: number twelve, But Dalvin Cook has that combination of of course,

977
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: he's a great athlete's explosive, his jump cuts are outstanding,

978
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: he's fast, the accelerations outstanding. But his ability to the vision,

979
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: the atians, the run tempo, that's what really sets him apart.

980
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: Now with Dalvin Cook, he also has some issues with

981
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: the shoulders. Right, he's not the biggest guy. Uh. If

982
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: he was a little bigger and I didn't have any

983
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: durability questions, I'd have him above Zeke in terms of

984
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: just my grades coming out as running backs. But that's

985
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: something that makes Zeke complete back. I mean we're talking.

986
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean you can watch this guy block, I mean

987
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: and be really and do a great job out of

988
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: it and then also split him out and they throw

989
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: him nine round Oh yeah, he can. He can run rounds.

990
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: He's a very good receiver. He can block. He's willing

991
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: for sure, and needs a little work in that area technically,

992
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: but a very good player. Nonetheless problems with Fournette. I

993
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: don't know about problem. I mean, and honestly, it reminds

994
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: me a lot of the Peppers conversation and a little

995
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: bit of the Bosa conversation. Like there, I mean, there's

996
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: obvious I don't want to say flaws, but there's things

997
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette needs to work on. I don't think of

998
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: him as a great blocker. They never used as a

999
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: receiver at Lshoe and that doesn't mean he can't. A

1000
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: lot of people tell me that, well he's not using

1001
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: the passing game. That doesn't mean he but you gotta

1002
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: show those skills little bit though it would be nice, right,

1003
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's not like Odell Beckham and Jarvis

1004
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: Landry were in a great system for them at LSU either,

1005
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: and it didn't stop them. Point being honestly, though, you know,

1006
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: Fournette's been a household name since he came out of

1007
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: high school. He was a Heisman contender as a true sophomore.

1008
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: So I think the natural inclination is to think he's

1009
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: the best guy. But and it sounds like a hot

1010
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: take because everybody knows his name, But I think the

1011
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: deeper we get into this I think it'll be a

1012
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: pretty consensus opinion that Dalvin Cook is a more well,

1013
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: more well rounded back. I don't have I think shoulder

1014
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: thing though they start figuring on that. No, definitely, But

1015
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: and so I don't have a problem with anybody that

1016
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: thinks Dalvin Cook's a better player than Leonard Fournette. But

1017
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that makes Leonard Fournette a bad player.

1018
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: Which is that draft narrative that we get into. I mean,

1019
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett's going to be a top fifteen or twenty pick,

1020
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: I think. And the thing with Fournette is he's always

1021
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: been bigger, faster, stronger, so he's never had to really

1022
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: use nuance with his running style, right, so that just

1023
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: won't be the case in the NFL. Something you'll have

1024
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: to learn and adapt. We just we haven't seen a

1025
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: running back like Leonard Fournette coming to the NFL. I mean,

1026
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: there just isn't a real logical comparison. They need the

1027
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: Alabama kids. You know, when you look at those Alabama

1028
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: kids at all won the hot you know, those Derrick Henry,

1029
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I hate it's it's not fair because

1030
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: he I mean, and I'm he's not on that level.

1031
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: But he I mean, he has always reminded me of

1032
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. Peterson was way better, way better. But that's

1033
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: that style of pound runner, right, just freaks, I mean guys,

1034
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: athletic freaks who can beat you with power or speed.

1035
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: And I think Peterson was better coming out of college.

1036
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't try to convince anybody otherwise, but

1037
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: that's the natural comparison. That the closest comparison that I

1038
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: can make in terms of body type and athletic ability

1039
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: is Thomas Davis, the linebacker for the Panthers. That's what

1040
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: kind of freak that Leonard Fournette. But in terms of

1041
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: a running back, I just I cannot find that you know,

1042
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: Apple's apples comparison, I don't. I don't think we have one,

1043
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: and that that will be something that has talked about

1044
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: in war rooms when Fournette is mentioned. You've got Solomon

1045
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: Thomas listed as a defensive lineman. Do you have a

1046
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: spot for him? To me, he's a left end who

1047
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: you move him inside on on passing downs? All Right,

1048
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: we talked about Peppers being a guy that you know

1049
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: you have to have a plan for him before you

1050
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: draft him. Thomas is the opposite. I don't need a

1051
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: plan get him on my team. I'll figure out how

1052
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: to get He's incredible, his initial quickness, his ability to

1053
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: use his hands. I mean that North Carolina that tape

1054
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: is ridiculous against Notre Dame, same type of thing. I

1055
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: think he's gonna do really well to combine Test off

1056
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: the charts. Salomon Thomas number five on my initial board.

1057
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: I think he ends up somewhere in that top ten.

1058
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: Some team in that top ten is gonna get a

1059
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: really good player, Marshawn Lattimore over Test Tabor. That's gonna

1060
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: be ye. That's the two cornerbacks in this draft. That's

1061
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: why you were watching tape on him this morning. I'm Lattimore.

1062
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: Which one Latimore were you and I? And I thought

1063
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: Tabor was. I thought Tabor was my number one guy

1064
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: at that corner until until I watched Lattimore. You and

1065
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: I were watching Conley Gary on the other Ohio State

1066
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: corner right last week, and I couldn't take my eyes

1067
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: off number two. Yeah, you know a guy that I

1068
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: think very highly of. But even when I'm trying to

1069
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: watch Conley, I'm watching Lattimore just because he's such a

1070
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: special athlete. He's twitchy. Uh, you just don't see separation

1071
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: between him and the receiver. And when there is separation,

1072
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: he was able to make that up before the ball arrived.

1073
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: Knock it down, get the interception. The biggest issue with

1074
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: him is he missed his first two years due to

1075
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: hamstring issues. Right, is there a long term thing going

1076
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: on there? That's something I mean, howboy fans know all

1077
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: about that, right, So it's something that will be fleshed

1078
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: out throughout the process, the combine and the medicals. But

1079
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: based on tape, Marshawn Lattimore my number one corner in

1080
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: a top ten pick, Derek Barnett is listed as your

1081
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: first defensive end at fifteen. What to do well, not

1082
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: my first defensive end, but yeah, I'm sorry as far

1083
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: as I'm not my bad. I was thinking of those

1084
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: top guys. Maybe the guy that that next level guy,

1085
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett is gonna be very There's me a lot

1086
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: of discussions about him because he's not naturally explosive. He

1087
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: saw left end, Yeah, he's didn't see a wright ending right,

1088
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: A powerful very good against the run. I mean, this

1089
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: is a guy that broke Reggier White's school Sack record

1090
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: of Tennessee. Yeah, the production Tennessee's had tremendous rushers ut history. Yeah,

1091
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: you can't take away the production he had. But Derek Barnett,

1092
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: what do you do with him? I'll tell you what

1093
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: he I was watching the Alabama game and he blew

1094
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: by Cam Robertson like he was standing there. I mean,

1095
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, wait a minute, I think this guy's

1096
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: a left end, and he goes blow and buy him

1097
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: right there. The reason I laughed is and I get

1098
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: frustrated with you, so I can only imagine our listeners

1099
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: because everybody's a left end. I just want to write

1100
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: end like I'm trying to find a right in. I know,

1101
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: but there's so many. But but he talks about okay,

1102
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: talk about the traits that make a great right end,

1103
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 1: initial quickness. I know they're hard to find. I did

1104
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: he say the guy was not? I know, I know

1105
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: that they're hard to find. But just everybody, everybody say

1106
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: it's a left end or a three technique right, Yeah, exactly,

1107
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: they need to. Tim Williams to me, is a is

1108
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: a right end? Kinley? Yeah, Tach McKay, that's those are

1109
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: right ends. Tim Williams is three to four stand up guy.

1110
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: That's how that's what he can put his hand on

1111
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: the ground. Man, he comes screaming off the edge, off

1112
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: the stuff, off the field problems. He'll be just let

1113
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: my guy know what, Spence, that's probably what's gonna happen.

1114
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: You love him, I love him. And then he's gonna

1115
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: go east and then and then you know, and then

1116
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: the second round, everybody's gonna yell at me because man,

1117
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: they got value for that guy. I'm like, yeah, but

1118
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be something Bad's gonna happen. Randy Gregory. I mean,

1119
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: it could be a similar situation where Randy greg no one,

1120
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: no one's gonna want to stomach that. You say, Randy

1121
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: Gregory and Tim Williams are gonna go Brian shut up.

1122
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: We want boy scouts, Well, you want players players? The

1123
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: ultimate dilemma? Any other surprises on this top fifty? We

1124
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: ask you about Pat Mahomes at fifty. Oh yeah, Texas Tech.

1125
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh let's do it. Just what this guy's raw as sushi?

1126
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: All right? He is so raw is how about that?

1127
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: Have you watched him as a guy. He's playing backyard

1128
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: football out there. I mean there's just there's no rhyme

1129
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: or reason that would he would you be surprised if

1130
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: he was picked in the first round. I saw him

1131
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: mocked in the first round. Would the other day twenty ninth?

1132
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how he just he's not going to

1133
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: play as a rookie and I'm not sure he can

1134
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: play as a second year guy in the NFL. Do

1135
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: you like him better than Dak Prescott coming out of

1136
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, Well, they're very different because when you know Dak,

1137
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: he was established, you know what you're You felt like

1138
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: you knew what you're getting, even though we were wrong

1139
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott. Where Mahomes, he's so raw, there's so

1140
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: much you're drafting him for upside. I haven't watched tape

1141
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: of Pat Mahomes, but I've seen him play enough games

1142
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: to say, like, how do you even evaluate him? Every

1143
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: single play is just can't evaluate him? Throwing the football, great,

1144
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: He's got an he's got a great arm after a

1145
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: great arm after he did think did you think that

1146
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: these coaches could do what they did with Dak Prescott?

1147
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: It's it was impres I didn't think any coaches could. Okay,

1148
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: but Dak Prescott was taking the snap from shotgun, standing

1149
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: in a pocket and throwing the ball in the sec

1150
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: He freaking big twelve doesn't play defense. I would I

1151
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just Oklahoma. We were talking about Oklahoma guys.

1152
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: I would bet that half of Pat Mahome, sixty percent

1153
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: of Pat mahomes throws have come from outside the pocket.

1154
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: It's yeah, like watch Pat mechanics. Skinny on Pat Mohome.

1155
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: Judge it, mccannic, he has zero mccannics. Well, this is

1156
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: a guy who played baseball most of his life. He

1157
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: was a basic, his dad was in yeah, yeah years.

1158
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: He has that pedigree. He's never worked with the quarterback coach.

1159
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: He's never you know, shot it out there book. Well, no,

1160
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: it's just he's never really put the time in to be,

1161
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, a full time quarterback. Here's always been baseball,

1162
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: always been basketball. So you know, and this is a

1163
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: true junior that's coming out. This isn't a red shirt senior.

1164
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: This is a guy who played in Texas Tech System

1165
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: who has never produced a quality NFL quarterbacker. Am I wrong?

1166
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean that Texas Tech System. I mean Adam Harrold

1167
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: kicked around for a while, but oh no, I understand

1168
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I mean that system does not produce

1169
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: NFL quality quarterbacks. This guy is different. He's I mean,

1170
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: I obviously I put him at number fifty. Yeah, look

1171
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: that you think something of it. Baker Field turns out well,

1172
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: that counts as he was there for a year. But

1173
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: they didn't want him, right, I mean, that's why he transferred.

1174
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: So with Mahomes where he could be three years from now,

1175
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: was why you draft him and the trades the same

1176
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: thing about Prescott. I'm just asking, no, I don't and

1177
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to sit here. No, No, I'm

1178
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: just saying of a guy that i'm sounding, I'm saying

1179
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: no because I did not think Dak would be a

1180
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, NFL MVP contender as a rookie.

1181
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: I did not think. I think I think a day

1182
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: through the draft, if you go back and listen, there

1183
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: were some very positive things said about Dak Prescott there

1184
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: and there were and I think there was a foundation

1185
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: there to say, Okay, this guy's got some stuff to

1186
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: work on. He played out of the shotgun his whole career.

1187
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: He's not he hasn't played NFL style football, but like

1188
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: he played quarterback though, and Pat Mahomes obviously plays quarterback,

1189
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: but it's just it's insane, Like watching him play is

1190
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: not any It's not even the same planet as what

1191
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback Mahomes or Jacoby Brissett. I mean, I'll I'll

1192
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: take a chance on the upside. Homes. Mahomes has higher upside,

1193
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: but Brissett's more ready to play or was more ready

1194
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: to play quarterback right away. It depends what you want.

1195
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a guy that could be a

1196
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: number two for you as a rookie, then that's Brissette.

1197
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a guy that you can stash

1198
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: and not have to worry about, this guy you weren't

1199
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to play him. Hey, but now the Cowboys

1200
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: are in a fun like it's fun to think how

1201
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: much things have changed for this team because now, like

1202
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: this time last year, we're like, we gotta find the guy.

1203
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: We got to find the guy. But now you're like, well,

1204
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: we have our quarterback. We were set for a decade.

1205
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: Let's draft this dude and see what the hell he

1206
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: does over the next Mahomes to me is Johnny Manziel,

1207
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: except he's clean off the field. He's bigger, and he

1208
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: has a better arm. So that's why I have at

1209
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: number fifty. But that's also why I don't want to

1210
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: see him for at least a year and a half

1211
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Bas Dane's basically saying, I don't know

1212
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: how the hell this is gonna work, but there's always

1213
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: there to make me injury. He just gave you a name.

1214
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: On the first day of the draft show, Kit, do

1215
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: we have a time for one call? We do, and

1216
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: it's all the way around the world. Reggie in Germany. Oh, Reggie,

1217
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: welcome to the Draft show. We're all doing great. You've

1218
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: got the last word. What do you got man? Okay,

1219
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: really quickly, thank you. Swing around. I'm gonna give you

1220
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: guys a real right defensive end. Okay, I'm gonna go

1221
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: home on you on my alma modes, say, what do

1222
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: you think about Harold Landry? Harold Landry from Boston College.

1223
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: He's actually not in this draft. He a junior, decided

1224
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: to go back to school. So he's a very good player.

1225
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: But we'll be talking about next year. You're there, Reggie,

1226
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, he did you hear? Oh? As we

1227
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: got one more Kent. Maybe we don't that's it. That's it.

1228
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: Reggie on he was all the way around the world.

1229
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to mean this week. Hope Carold Danger is

1230
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: a very good player junior, but we'll be talking about

1231
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: next year. A senior decided to go back for our

1232
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: junior decided to go back for a senior season. I

1233
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: think a solid portion of the Cowboys fan base isn't

1234
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: ready for this yet. They're still licking their wounds from Sunday,

1235
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: but they'll come around, all right, real quick. Knit Before

1236
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,560
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1237
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,800
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1238
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,360
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1240
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,520
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1241
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,320
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1242
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: I think twenty four hours after we air, so we'll

1243
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: be doing this all next week at the Senior Bowl.

1244
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: Live times will be posted on Dallas Cowboys dot com,

1245
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: so they're stay tuned to the Twitter and all that. Absolutely,

1246
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: so yeah, the good reasons. So for my for my

1247
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: scouting buddies here, for David Hellman, for Dane Brugler, for

1248
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Speaker 1: I also want to thank Ed K. Hill. I want

1249
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