WEBVTT - Black Dahlia Anniversary, Delivering the Wrong Babies, Necrotic Slop, and More!

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Mother Knows Death. This week's story of the

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<v Speaker 1>week is a seventy seven year old murder, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's still in the headlines because it hasn't been solved yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you want to talk about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So this past Monday, January fifteenth is the seventy

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<v Speaker 2>seventh anniversary of the Black Dahlia murder. For those of

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<v Speaker 2>you who are not familiar, you must not be a

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<v Speaker 2>true crime fan because this is one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>famous true crime cases of all. This twenty two year

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<v Speaker 2>old woman, Elizabeth Short. Her body was found cut in half,

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<v Speaker 2>drained of blood, organs moved around a smile carved into

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<v Speaker 2>her face. Very disturbing case to see this poor woman

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<v Speaker 2>and her child walked upon the scene, thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>a mannequin lying in the ground, only to realize it

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<v Speaker 2>was this woman. So this case was in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It has gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the one of the oldest popular cold cases

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<v Speaker 2>in true crime history. There's much speculation about who committed

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<v Speaker 2>the crime and how it was done, but it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of been all over the place, and there's no conclusive answers,

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<v Speaker 2>and now that I think it's safe to say that

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<v Speaker 2>whoever killed this poor woman is probably dead. This case

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<v Speaker 2>will never really officially be solved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's so we did since it was that

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seventh anniversary, we are doing in the gross room

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<v Speaker 1>a two part high profile death dis section, going through

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<v Speaker 1>all of the details of the case exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we did this week, and then next

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<v Speaker 1>week we're going to go over the autopsy, what they

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<v Speaker 1>found in the autopsy and why that was significant, and

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<v Speaker 1>also we're going to talk about the investigation and why

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a cold case. I think one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most shocking parts of the investigation is that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a man who is convinced that his father killed this woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has a pretty convincing story. But then there

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<v Speaker 1>was another book written about another person who also there

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<v Speaker 1>is a very convincing story that he was the one

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<v Speaker 1>that killed her too. But just even to read the

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy report and just about the details of this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very very disturbing how this woman was killed, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was killed in such a way that with such

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<v Speaker 1>precision that they believe it was a person that had

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<v Speaker 1>medical or anatomy knowledge as far as how well she

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<v Speaker 1>was dissected basically, and just other disturbing parts of the case.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a tattoo on her leg apparently that was

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<v Speaker 1>carved out and show into her vagina. And she had,

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<v Speaker 1>like Maria said, a smile carved into her face, which

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<v Speaker 1>is called a Glasgow smile. And it's a very specific

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<v Speaker 1>injury that was common in the early or the twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>early twentieth century with gangs, and it still continues today.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's when you cut someone from the corner of

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<v Speaker 1>their mouth to their ear and it creates a smile.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thought is is that you torture the person

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<v Speaker 1>and you either punch them, kick them in the genital,

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<v Speaker 1>stab them, or do something to make them scream, and

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<v Speaker 1>when they scream, this incision rips open even further, causing

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<v Speaker 1>really horrible scars if you actually survive it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that was one of the most interesting parts

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<v Speaker 1>of this case because of the time period it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the significance of that when it was popular in

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<v Speaker 1>another country and it really wasn't a popular thing to

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<v Speaker 1>do here. The whole case is just it is so

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre and it's sad that she'll never get justice, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But another interesting thing, though, is that she really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be a Hollywood actress and she's she became super

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<v Speaker 1>famous in her death, which is an interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very sad, and an element I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you about is even though they've narrowed it

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<v Speaker 2>down to a few suspects who each have convincing cases

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<v Speaker 2>of why they're involved, so many people came forward and

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<v Speaker 2>confess to this crime. And I would love to have

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<v Speaker 2>our friend of the show, doctor Shaham das on soon

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of talk about the psychology of why there's

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<v Speaker 2>all these false confessions to crimes. We see this a

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<v Speaker 2>lot with a lot of popular cases that just people

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<v Speaker 2>will come forward and make this confession that have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it, and it's so bizarre to me

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<v Speaker 2>that they're fending off sometimes hundreds of fake confessions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That actually that happened with John Bena Ramsey, remember

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<v Speaker 1>some guy. Yeah, that is true. We should make a

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<v Speaker 1>note to talk to Sean about that and see what

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks, because it is very weird that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's just people that are lost that want

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of notoriety or something. But yeah, why would

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<v Speaker 1>you confess to something that you didn't do and then

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<v Speaker 1>possibly go to jail for it when you didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>it. It's it's just like kind of a weird thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it's really a bummer because even if the

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<v Speaker 2>man that came forward that was a retired LAPD detective,

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<v Speaker 2>he had said in an interview that he collected so

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<v Speaker 2>much evidence that he brought it to his friends at

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<v Speaker 2>the district attorney, and they said that there was enough

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that if his father was still alive, they would

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<v Speaker 2>have brought the case to trial, saying that though it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily mean that that man would have been convicted.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's even though we could potentially figure out who

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<v Speaker 2>did it with all this like online sleuthing and having

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<v Speaker 2>all these people reopen this case, it doesn't really matter

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<v Speaker 2>because whoever murdered her is now probably more than away

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<v Speaker 2>with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they got away with it. So her crime

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<v Speaker 2>is just never going to be solved and we're never

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<v Speaker 2>going to know why she was killed and why it

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<v Speaker 2>was so gruesome and horrific. We just don't see cases

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<v Speaker 2>of this level that often fortunately, but it's really sad

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<v Speaker 2>to see that she became famous in the most negative way.

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<v Speaker 2>And this case is definitely really intriguing, and I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>interested to see if just more information trickles out over

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<v Speaker 2>the years.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have any that many cases in the celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>section this week. Well there was a lot of repeat

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<v Speaker 1>stories about just Shannon Dougherty and but it's we don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to document every single, every single moment of these

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<v Speaker 1>people's lives and their anticipated deaths. But one story that

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<v Speaker 1>stock out to us this week was that an actor

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<v Speaker 1>from All My Children who was only fifty years old died.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to talk about him? His name's Alec Mooser,

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<v Speaker 1>Alec Muser. Did you watch this show when it was

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<v Speaker 1>on All My Children? Yeah no, but like my mom did,

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<v Speaker 1>how old? But how old could he have been on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was out when I was a little kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're talking about this the soap opera.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the show that Kelly Rippa met her husband

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<v Speaker 2>Mark and Swilas on they're both on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, Like my my mom watched one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but like one of my friends growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>her parents watched one of them too, like all the

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<v Speaker 1>time it was really weird. I just never got into them.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they were so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm pretty sure this was on in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, this guy, just Alec Muser, just died and

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<v Speaker 2>he was fifty years old, which is so young to die.

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<v Speaker 2>His fiance is saying he had a severe case of

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<v Speaker 2>COVID prior to his death, which she is believing to

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<v Speaker 2>be relevant to why he's dead. But we're still pending

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<v Speaker 2>an official cause of death, pending autopsy results. But he

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<v Speaker 2>is very young to have just suddenly died.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet she said that he had he was fully vaccinated

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<v Speaker 1>and boosted and all that stuff. But the autopsy will tell.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's weird that she's saying I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>why he died, because I'm like, wouldn't you know that

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the hospital and what they have told

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<v Speaker 1>you that was why he died. I don't know. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i mean I'm assuming it. They're they're engaged that she

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in the process. But yeah, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>autopsy will tell. They'll take sections of the long and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll do viral testing and they'll be able to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out if just because even if he is positive with COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that that's what killed him. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to see if that was his cause of

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<v Speaker 1>death or maybe, because not only does it cause like

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<v Speaker 1>a severe pneumonia, but it also could cause clotting issues

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It.

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<v Speaker 1>So they'll they'll see all that at autopsy, So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>we'll report back.

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<v Speaker 2>To you when we get the results on that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he died at his home, so I'm not really sure.

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<v Speaker 2>They were also saying that he had just posted a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days before that he was surfing. As we

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<v Speaker 2>know with social media, you could definitely be surfing and

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<v Speaker 2>wait like four months to post a picture, so it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily mean that surfing that day. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>sad to see that he was possibly going through a

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<v Speaker 2>really hard time and really sick and then suddenly died

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe the COVID kind of just just knocked them off,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had some other underlying condition that we're just

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<v Speaker 2>not aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll let everybody. Yeah, and I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>I would use the word severe COVID if he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even hospitalized for it. He just maybe he just had

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<v Speaker 1>a bad cold. I don't know, but whatever. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's no sense of speculating. We'll find out eventually. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>freak accidents this week. This one is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>really always think looks so beautiful in the air and

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it, but I'm scared to death for

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<v Speaker 1>this very reason. So new fear unlocked.

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<v Speaker 2>And new thing I learned also is that you could

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<v Speaker 2>skydive out of a hot air balloon.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not even the problem in this case. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I didn't know that either, and I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>people are crazy. I'm just not I'm not that breeze.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So thirteen people were on board of this hot air

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<v Speaker 2>balloon in the Arizona Desert. Eight of those were skydivers

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<v Speaker 2>that successfully jumped out and completed their journey shortly after

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<v Speaker 2>the real issue began. So something happened that caused the

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<v Speaker 2>balloon to crash into the desert terrain and the five

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<v Speaker 2>remaining people on board. Out of the five remaining people

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<v Speaker 2>on board, four of them died and one is in

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<v Speaker 2>critical condition.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't want to I don't want to survive

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. I guess there's different ways that you

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<v Speaker 1>can die. You can get I think one got like

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up in electrical wires a couple of years, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't even want to think about that, but

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<v Speaker 1>there could be fires and just blunt trauma from from

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<v Speaker 1>a really high height. Kind of surprised that someone even

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<v Speaker 1>did survive, but maybe they won't even pull through. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, hopefully they do, but I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine what their story is gonna be telling this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so it's just so scary. But I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>ever look at them up in the air, they just

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<v Speaker 1>look so cool and so beautiful, and obviously so many

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<v Speaker 1>people do it all the time and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any problems. But it's just it's just kind of this

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<v Speaker 1>thing that doesn't need to exist, and it's a huge risk.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, but I imagine that if you

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<v Speaker 1>actually did it, Like what if you go up and

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<v Speaker 1>you freak out so bad because you're so high and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like in the corner of the basket crying. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I picture I would be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have this like pop culture moment ingrained in

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<v Speaker 2>my brain, which is remember I used to watch as

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<v Speaker 2>a little kid that Amanda Show with Amanda Bindes which

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<v Speaker 2>is a little kid. There is this get on that

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<v Speaker 2>show where her mom was lost in a hot air

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<v Speaker 2>balloon somewhere and they would show her floating around like

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<v Speaker 2>wondering how the daughter was doing. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it was called Moody's point or something. It was making

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<v Speaker 2>fun of a dramatic show. But I just that's like

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<v Speaker 2>permanently in my brain associated with hot air balloons, and

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<v Speaker 2>I always think about that. And then we have the

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<v Speaker 2>hot air balloon at art at the Philadelphia Zoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that even still open? I don't know. Every single

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been to me neither. I didn't even go

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<v Speaker 1>because that one's kind of controlled because it's attached to strings,

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<v Speaker 1>so it goes up like a certain amount, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it can't go anymore because it's attached to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I went to the zoo, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was not open, so I never got a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to go on it. I don't even know if they

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<v Speaker 1>do it anymore, but it's kind I.

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<v Speaker 2>Also remember I also remember being a little kid driving

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<v Speaker 2>on seventy six and you being like, look, it's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see it, so as a little kid, it's

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<v Speaker 2>cool to see. I totally agree with you. They're very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you ever see they do the hot air

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<v Speaker 2>balloon festivals where there's a bunch of them in the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I might be interested in just going and like

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<v Speaker 1>looking at that, not really being involved any other way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good because there was another case where in Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>one caught on fire and people, yeah, severely injured.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot air balloons are like they're so eighties. They used

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<v Speaker 1>to like when I was a kid that used to

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<v Speaker 1>sell these posters that you would like hang up in

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<v Speaker 1>your room of hot air balloons, you know how like

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<v Speaker 1>unicorns were popular, it was like hot air balloons were

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<v Speaker 1>all the rage. It's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a popular nursery theme. Right now, I've noticed a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so everything old is new again.

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<v Speaker 1>This case, this next freak accident is it's scary and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like even though the mom was probably mostly

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong in this case, I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that probably could have happened to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like it's it's easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm thankful you said that because I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to point up as well. Yeah, because so let's tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what happened. So there was this family in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, and they wanted to go out to lunch,

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<v Speaker 2>so they went to this place that was called the

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<v Speaker 2>Common Market, and it is described as.

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<v Speaker 1>An uncommon convenience store, deli and bar. So first, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm traveling and I read that, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a place like that because I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to somewhere fun. When it says uncommon, I wouldn't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just think that they had I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>some like fancy or food or something. Instead of a

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<v Speaker 1>club sandwich, it might be like curried chicken club sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't I wouldn't expect what happened. So the mom went

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<v Speaker 1>with her her young son and they bought these freeze

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<v Speaker 1>dried skittles, and the kid wanted to try them. And

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<v Speaker 1>we were just on a trip and the freeze dried

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<v Speaker 1>candy was like all the rage on the whole trip.

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<v Speaker 1>So this same exact thing happened to me. The kids

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<v Speaker 1>were like, can we get these freeze dried peach rings

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever? And I'm like, okay, sure, and they bought them.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look at the bag. I mean, we were

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<v Speaker 1>in a candy store. So maybe that's why I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know I didn't look at the bag to see like

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<v Speaker 1>what was in it or whatever. But so she buys

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<v Speaker 1>these skittles for her kid, and the kid eats the

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<v Speaker 1>skittles and then it ends up that they're THHC. They

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<v Speaker 1>have the delta nine THHC in them, and they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>like weed candy. And the kid ate most of the

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<v Speaker 1>bag and obviously got really high and really sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this kid learned about I'm assuming where the

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<v Speaker 2>girls also learned about it, which is YouTube. Well I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not assuming. This kid said he learned about freeze dried

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<v Speaker 2>candy on YouTube, and that's why I'm assuming the kids

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<v Speaker 2>learned about it on there too, Right, So he sees

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<v Speaker 2>these on the counter and it was freeze dried skittles

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<v Speaker 2>and he wanted to try them. The mom thought nothing

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong with it. Each adult at the table ate

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<v Speaker 2>one to two pieces, but he ate around forty pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of this candy and nobody thinks, which is also just

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<v Speaker 2>something that would totally happen in our house, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>would be like, oh, let me try that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's too sweet or something and I don't want it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the kids will eat the whole bag, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean listen, like there's a couple candy like skettles, for

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<v Speaker 2>real skettles, for example, I'll eat a couple pieces, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been recently introduced in the last year to

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<v Speaker 2>nerd clusters, and I'll eat the entire bag in once

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<v Speaker 2>a day.

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<v Speaker 1>So totally see how it could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But they didn't really realize anything was wrong until they

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<v Speaker 2>started exhibiting symptoms. So yeah, it turns out it's just

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<v Speaker 2>delta nine, which marijuana sales are illegal in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's this loophole where they could sell I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>extracts of THG, which delta nine is considered even though

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<v Speaker 2>delta nine is the component of THC that makes you high.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't really get it. But it's the same

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<v Speaker 2>weird thing with CBD, which I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever had CBD, but I've had it in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like it's almost more dangerous because it

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<v Speaker 2>makes your body really lethargic, but your mind isn't quite

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<v Speaker 2>the So that's kind of really scary for me because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you realize the two aren't two, like

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<v Speaker 2>in connection with each other. But okay, so this article

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<v Speaker 2>showed a picture of the packaging. So this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly where the story.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you when you hear the first part of

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<v Speaker 1>the story, you're like, oh my god, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. But then when you when you see the

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<v Speaker 1>photo of the packaging, then you're like, okay, like you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't You're like, come on, you didn't know this was

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<v Speaker 1>weird candy. You're kind of dumb right now? All right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>describe it? What first? What was it called?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't did you write it was like addle, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't say it didn't say skittles.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like these these skittles. Yeah, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was like scuzzizzles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was schuizzizzles.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was a picture of a man, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there was a logo with a marijuana It.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like a biohazard label with a giant weed leaf.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the back it was like delta THHC.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the dose. Like if any person just looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the bag at a glance, you would know what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. So all right.

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<v Speaker 2>On one end, the store clerk is in the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>because they did not card the person as they should

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<v Speaker 2>have carded them per the stores policies. Even though Delta

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<v Speaker 2>nine is legally sold in northl Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if this lady was forty five years old? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to card people? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, they're I believe with alcohol, if anybody, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, with alcohol, at least in our area, if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's under thirty years old, you have to card them

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<v Speaker 2>if you think they look under thirty, not under twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>under thirty. So I don't know if it's the same

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<v Speaker 2>with weed. I feel like with weed, everybody has to

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<v Speaker 2>get carded, no matter if they're ninety five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe this person was like, I'm definitely safe because

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<v Speaker 2>this person's of age. They didn't say anything. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>their problem to be, like, you know you're buying weed

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<v Speaker 2>candy right because the package is clear as day that

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<v Speaker 2>it's a marijuana faced product. So I'm sorry, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm not siding with this lady on this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just because we travel, you know, not a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but we travel with the kids and stuff, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know, I personally wouldn't think that a

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<v Speaker 1>convenience store would just sell that kind of stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. But I also don't know if I would

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<v Speaker 1>just like let them have something that wasn't like a

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<v Speaker 1>familiar brand or something. I don't know, but maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I would. That's why I say, like, eh, this they're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Only they're saying only after the kids started exhibiting symptoms

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<v Speaker 2>did somebody in the family member read the packaging and.

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<v Speaker 1>Discover what it was. It is funny though, that they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying that. A bunch of adults at the table,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were passing around this bag and not one

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<v Speaker 1>person was like like, wait, why is there a giant

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<v Speaker 1>weed leaf on here? And why isn't it called skittles.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called like skizze it whatever it was called.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like uh, yeah, I And I'm sorry, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you've ever had any candy or anything that has weed

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<v Speaker 2>in it, no matter how delicious it is, it has

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<v Speaker 2>that gross tinge.

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<v Speaker 1>Of yeah, and I guess it just does not taste.

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<v Speaker 1>The mom said that the kids started having all these

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<v Speaker 1>symptoms and she was like blowing them off, saying, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to the bathroom or something, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the kid said something that the water didn't taste right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she said that she had heard that that

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<v Speaker 1>was a sign of poisoning and that's when she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I gotta take this kid to the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>and took the kid to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>So at the hospital he slept for seventy hours straight

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<v Speaker 2>and so he was released. So it is a shame

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<v Speaker 2>because a six year old should not be getting high.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think we could agree that both sides have

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<v Speaker 2>some wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's funny, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a funny kid's story. It'll be like, oh, remember that time,

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<v Speaker 1>like mom got me high, one of those yeah, one

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<v Speaker 1>of those good kids stories. But luckily we could like

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<v Speaker 1>laugh about this because the kid just ended up sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>for a whole day and like he's fine. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is it's scary in the sense that, like how easily

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about this with that when we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about poisonings and everything, that how scary it is that

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<v Speaker 1>people can give you drugs, poison and you eat it

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<v Speaker 1>very you trust that what you're eating. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the kid was poisoned essentially, and that's scary, and luckily

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<v Speaker 1>it all worked out well. But yeah, I'm good. I

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<v Speaker 1>am this. I am good. I listen, if this happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I'd be super embarrassed. About it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be going on TikTok being like, listen, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible mom, like I let my kids eat some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even read the bag. Whatever. Well, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad she think she was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she was going on TikTok as like a PSA.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, lady, you didn't read the lady, so

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<v Speaker 2>what do you? And they're called like scazittals, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>regular can Yeah, it looks it looks exactly like every

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<v Speaker 2>other type of Yeah, it's like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't the bag like like like a brown bag color

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<v Speaker 1>with an like you just don't normally buy candy that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like that. I don't know, listen, like you, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to say. I don't want to completely

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<v Speaker 1>blame her because I think the same thing could probably

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<v Speaker 1>happen to me. I'm glad she told everybody, so now

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<v Speaker 1>people no, all right. So the next story in freak

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<v Speaker 1>accidents is another one that has a happy ending, Thank god.

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<v Speaker 1>This mom was driving around with her daughter in the

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<v Speaker 1>back seat and a tire popped off of a car

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<v Speaker 1>and that was going in the opposite direction and went

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<v Speaker 1>over the median and smashed into the windshield. Luckily it

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<v Speaker 1>hit on the passenger side of the windshield, and luckily

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<v Speaker 1>the child was in the back seat of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess who I sent this story to today? Who Gabe?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he always puts lets the kids drive in the

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<v Speaker 1>front seat when I'm not in the car, and it

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<v Speaker 1>drives me fucking crazy because I'm like, they're not old enough,

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't be sitting there, and but he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be like dad hero of the year when he picks

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<v Speaker 1>the kids up.

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<v Speaker 3>From school and like, ooh, I let you sit in

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<v Speaker 3>the front and your mom doesn't you know whatever, But

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<v Speaker 3>this is They said that the police were like, thank

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<v Speaker 3>god she was in the back seat because the windshield

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<v Speaker 3>the most damage was right to the passenger seat, And well, yeah, scary.

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<v Speaker 2>They always asked me to sit in the front seat

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<v Speaker 2>when I drive them, but I'm still scared of you,

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<v Speaker 2>so I.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, I always say no, like if we're which

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's stupid for going to softball. That's like around

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<v Speaker 1>the block, Like I'll be like, okay, you guys could,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just dumb because an accident can happen anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will even go on a major road because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I always just go down a rabbit hole

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and there's just no reason for it. That's

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>if it's like, oh, we have too many kids and

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>this and that. If there was like a reason for it,

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>it would make more sense. But I don't know. And

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the reasons I wanted to put this

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<v Speaker 1>story in here is because when when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>PA school, one of my friends LP, she was at

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<v Speaker 1>the Medical Examiners rotating there, and there was a case

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 1>of this happening on ninety five in Philly. A tire

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 1>popped off of a car or maybe it was a truck,

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was, but it went over

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>the median and hit the windshield and the guy was

0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>driving and it like knocked his head off. It was

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that hard, like he obviously he went to the Medical

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.959
<v Speaker 1>Examiner's office and he was dead, and apparently it seemed

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like his wife was in the car and witnessed it,

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and just just terrible. And it's always been a fear

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 1>of mind since LP told me about that autopsy, because

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, it happened on a highway that we travel

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to all the time. It was like right near the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is some total like final destination death, like

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 2>so weird, horrible, but at least in this case these

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 2>two were okay.

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0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>be like, holy shit, Like how scary is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get started with violent crimes. I feel like we

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<v Speaker 2>should have an asshole of the Week category because we

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 2>have just certain stories where these people are just so

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>unbelievable and I can't believe that these are even things

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 2>that really happen. Yeah, this lady definitely deserves Asshole of

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the Week for sure. So this happened in June of

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. This woman was living with her boyfriend

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>in Newcastle, Pennsylvania. The boyfriend had visitation rights of his

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 2>eighteen month old daughter that weekend, so he goes out

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 2>to the store and the girlfriend calls and says something's

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 2>wrong with the baby. When the guy returns home, the

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>baby's unresponsive. Nine one one's called and the baby's rest

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to the hospital. Four days later, the baby dies, So

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 2>the girlfriend says that the child had hit her head quote,

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>cramped up and fell off the bed and therefore became unresponsive.

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 2>The autopsy showed, however, that the child had ingested numerous

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>water beads along with button sheep batteries and metal screw

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 2>months before she died, and then determined that her cause

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>of death had been from consuming acidtone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this this not only is this lady an asshole,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>but she's a stupid she's stupid. She's a stupid ass

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>this pop Boop popa would say. She So they started

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>unraveling what happened to the child, because number one, if

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you said that a kid hit them their head, and

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you do the all time and there's not a single

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>bump on their head, then it's going to be a

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit suspicious. But on top of that, she had

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>all of these crazy searches on the Internet, and she

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 1>was looking for things that were common household items that

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>were dangerous and harmful to children, looking for toys that

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>would are harmful for children, And she was really doing

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>research to find out how she could accidentally kill this kid.

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>And so let me tell you about some of the

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>things that they found her. In her blood, obviously, she

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>had a fatal level of acetone, which is a common

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>chemical that used to take off now polish, so that

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>they figured out that this woman was feeding this child

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>acetone or now polish remover. And then the other things

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that they found were the button batteries. So when a

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>child in just these button batteries, they can erode inside

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>of the GI track can cause a perforation and ultimately

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>cause death. And these are like the little tiny silver

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>batteries that they're called button batteries because they are the

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>size of a button and they're common in like little

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>remote controls and stuff. And that's why you shouldn't give

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a baby that because if they put everything in their

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>mouth and the butt, the battery could get accidentally ingested.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>And the water beads we talked about too around Christmas time,

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>because that's another common thing that children play with. These

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>they're like sensory beads. They're these small beads and when

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you put them in water, they expand and kids like

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to play with them, like older kids like to play

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>with them, but younger kids, if they put them in

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the mouth, the little tiny beads then expand in the

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>gi track and they could cause an obstruction, which then

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>could also cause a perforation, which could also lead to

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>death as well. So this woman was intentionally letting this

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>child either play with these things, were actually feeding these

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>things to this child, and the child if they're saying

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that these items were there for months, it means that

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>they that they were stuck in there and had some

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of an obstruction or something like that that they

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>noticed that autopsy, and it's just it's just terrifying to

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>think that if you have a boyfriend or you have

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a husband, and you guys break up or get divorced

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you have to send your kid the visitation

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to another house, that some other person there would be

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>harming your child when they're not in your custody. It's

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>so scary.

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>So now this woman faces homicide charges, which is why

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>it's relevant this week, and they said when they read

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the charges, she just stood in court totally emotionless and

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 2>blank face. So that's really nice to hear.

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>What it's wrong with these morons that are searching that

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>they think that they're going to get away with this stuff,

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and they're searching it like, are you're twenty years old?

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>You don't know how the internet works? By now? Really?

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't know. Clearing your history doesn't erase it.

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Once you type something in, it's there forever, it doesn't

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 2>matter what people are serious idiots. So we're deeming this

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>lady asshole of the idiot of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. The next case that we're talking about is

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>also a really old case that happened in nineteen sixty eight,

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>this guy who has been called the Butcher of Belarus

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>is walking free.

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>So this guy, Vincent de Rosa, when he was sixteen

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>year old, sixteen years old in nineteen sixty eight, he

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 2>kidnapped a four year old child that lived in his neighborhood,

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>slaughtered her, and stuffed her in a suitcase. This is

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 2>really disturbing because he also joined the search party for

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the little girl, which I also think would be a

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>really awesome topic to bring up with doctor Dos. Why

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>did these killers join search parties? I know Jeffrey Dahmer

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>took part in some of his victims search parties as well.

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 2>And then the girl's body was eventually found in the

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>attic of his family in nineteen sixty eight, eleven days

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>after her disappearance. And so first in this case, he

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 2>went to jail until nineteen seventy five, so for only

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>seven years, and he got released when he was twenty three.

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 2>At the time, he was only charged with manslaughter, which

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I think is very, very bizarre because this is definitely

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>a first degree murder.

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't we don't really know what I don't. I

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>really couldn't find if he ever said what the motive

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>was he kidnapped her and said, apparently that she was

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>like talking too much, so he shoved it a rag

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>in her mouth. And I don't even know what her

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>cause of death was, but she was her neck was broke,

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>her bones were broken. I don't know if she was

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>asphyxiated with this thing he said he stuffed in her

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>mouth and put her in a suitcase. Apparently it didn't

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>seem as if she was sextually assaulted, but like, why,

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like why did you do that? Why would you just

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>kidnap a child. Apparently they were sitting on the stoop

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and the mom went in the house or some then

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to go to the bathroom, and then she came out

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and the kid was gone. And the most fucked up

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>part of this is that her brother is still alive,

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>who's now obviously an old man, and said that the

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>mom cried every day of her life after this kid died.

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean the children, the kids. The kid that died

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>had siblings that were only ten and twelve years old.

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>If the dad cried, I mean, like, think about how

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>this ripped apart an entire neighborhood and an entire family

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of their life, Like this woman cried

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.239
<v Speaker 1>every day of her life until she died as an

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>old lady, Like, how horrible is that? And then this

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>guy got out of jail a couple years later.

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm wondering if because he was technically a minor

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 2>when he committed the crime, if that's why it was

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>a lesser sentence. But it's absolutely disgusting to serve seven

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 2>years for taking a child's life.

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>So shocker.

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen years later, in nineteen eighty three, he then killed

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>an eighteen year old foreign exchange student after he went

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 2>disappearing after a night of drinking with this guy, and

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>buried him in a shallow grave in his backyard. So

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 2>his brothers two years later were digging in the backyard

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and fine skeletal remains and their brother's glasses with the

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 2>skeletal remain, which kind of stealed the deal that he

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 2>did it. So then he got served or he got

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 2>sentenced to twenty five years to life in prison. He

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 2>has served thirty five of those years, and now he

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 2>has been granted parole at seventy two years old, and

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>he will be getting out of jail again.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just I can't wrap my brain around it.

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I just can't, And really I do like how I

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>see things changing because you see a lot of kids

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that I think it was in Philly last year, like

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of kids beat to death this guy with

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a traffic cone or something, and they're getting charged. And

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that they're starting to be like, all right,

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a kid that's sixteen years old can get charged with

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>murder now, because when you're sixteen, although your brain is

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>not developed, and you do dumb shit, I don't think

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that you do dumb shit like kill a person, you

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like, I think that there has

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to be a distinction. And I'm glad that they're not

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>just making this blanket roll like because that's how I

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like it used to be back in the day,

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Like you're under eighteen, it doesn't count kind of thing.

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And imagine, I just think about this little kid's parents.

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>So in nineteen seventy five, it wasn't even that many

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>years later, their kids weren't even eighteen years old yet,

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>probably and the guy got out of jail again, they

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>must have been terrified.

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, and who knows what he did in between the

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years that.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>He was I'm sure like he was a saint.

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you just go on break No, exactly.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>So back to your point earlier. The first victim's brother

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 2>is still alive and says that nobody notified him he

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.720
<v Speaker 2>was out of jail. He's scared of this guy getting released.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Seventy two years old is not that old, you know.

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>The when the Golden State killer was arrested a couple

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 2>of years ago, he acted like this frail old man,

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 2>and they had videos of him in the jail being

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 2>extremely active, and it was really scary to see because

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 2>this guy could still get out and commit a crime

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 2>no problem. It's not like he's ninety five and on

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 2>death's door, like you just don't know. And it's really

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.959
<v Speaker 2>scary that they're just letting this guy out again after

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>they already proved that he was released and killed again.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's not like, oh, it was he killed

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>someone like I don't know. It was a bar fight

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and there were witnesses and the guy died

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>by accident. Like think about this. We talked about this

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>last week. To step the train, those two people were

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>fighting on the platform and he punched the guy. The

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>guy fell backwards and got ran over by a train.

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>That guy didn't I more than likely will say that

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>that guy didn't go on the train platform that day

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 1>planning to push a person in front of a train

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and have them die. It seemed like it was like

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>an impulsive fight that ended up and I believe he

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>punched the guy and then the guy fell backwards, like

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>he didn't push the guy.

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's manslaughter, that's a death resulting in a reckless action.

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I don't understand. It has to be

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>because he was a minor when he committed the first

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 2>crime with the child, because that is first degree murder.

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 2>He took her with the intention of killing her.

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, Like I just how could you

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>think that a person could ever be rehabilitated that thinks

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to just take a child off of a

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 1>step and freaking kill them and jam them in a suitcase.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm sorry, but I feel like those people just

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>need to be away for life because they're just ruined,

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.839
<v Speaker 1>like there's no coming back from that. Let's get into

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the medical stories this week.

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 2>So this Turkish doctor is selling weight loss quote holidays,

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 2>which I believe is a vagage and Americans speak. But

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 2>he told an undercover BBC reporter that she needed to

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 2>gain weight in order to be eligible for a gastric

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 2>sleeve surgery. So can you explain the unethical nature behind

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 2>this decision.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So this medical tourism is a really hot topic right

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>now because surgeries are becoming really expensive, and especially plastic

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>surgeries or cosmetic procedures, and people are deciding like, hey,

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I know in America, I could get a Brazilian butt

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>lift for ten thousand dollars, but if I go to Mexico,

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I could get one for two thousand dollars and you

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 1>get what you pay for kind of thing. You don't

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>know the regulations in the different countries that you're traveling to.

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And this story takes place in the UK, and they

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>were specifically talking about like medical weight loss surgery, sleeve

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>gas strectomy, which is when they cut a portion of

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the stomach off to make the stomach itself smaller, and

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>what happens during this surgery. So in America, for the

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.919
<v Speaker 1>most part, that's covered on health insurance if you meet

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>certain criteria, And apparently in Turkey they won't do the

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 1>procedure either unless you meet a certain criteria, which they

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't do it anywhere because you don't need it done.

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a surgery that's to combat obesity. Right. So this

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>person from the BBC reporter, she went and pretended like

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>she was going to go get this done. And when

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>she went there, her BMI was only twenty four I

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>think it was. It was pretty twenty four point yeah,

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.399
<v Speaker 1>and it was normal, so that's like a normal weight.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>And she went and the guy was like, well, I'm

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 1>going to schedule it for surgery, but you got to

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.359
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you gain weight because your BMI has

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to be thirty. And it just seems so it's so

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>unethical to say, hey, you're a normal weight, but gain

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>this weight in order to get this surgery done so

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I could get paid. And the thing is is that

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>in the UK, this report was saying that it's between

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>ten and fifteen thousand with their money's pounds, right, yeah,

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>ten to fifteen thousand pounds to get the surgery done

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>in the UK. But in Turkey you could get the

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>same surgery done for two thousand pounds. So they were

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>just going undercover to be like, well, what's going on

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>at these at these shady like things, right, And she

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.959
<v Speaker 1>said that she went for the consultation and She said

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that her BMI was twenty one. She said they never waited,

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:31.720
<v Speaker 1>they never asked anything. So it looks like this whole

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>entire thing is to get people in. This doctor's gonna

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>get paid two grand to do this procedure, and he

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't give a shit a value. He doesn't care if

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.399
<v Speaker 1>you go home and you drop dead or anything. He's

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>getting his two grand. So he's just telling you, like, hey,

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I only could do the surgery if you gain weight.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's it's really kind of outrageous to be

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>honest with you.

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you kind of get what you pay for. In

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 2>these circumstances. It's better to like do their research and

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>make sure you're getting a really good practice instead of

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 2>just getting the right present.

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, oh, listen, a lot of people do this

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.319
<v Speaker 1>all the time. They go to Brazil, they go to

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Mexico and they get things done and they have no issues,

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's like they saved a lot of money, right.

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>But there's horror stories, especially with the Brazilian butt lift situation,

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of just people dying, necrosis, all this crazy stuff happening

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>because you just don't they don't have the same regulations

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 1>as here. But there's definitely a lot of countries that

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.760
<v Speaker 1>have the same regulations that we do, and it's safe

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to get surgery in other countries, but you just don't

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>know what you're getting if you're just going on a

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 1>vacation to get surgery, so it's probably best not to

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>do it.

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk about this tide pod situation.

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like when I was.

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>In college, the initial fad started where people were taking

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 2>videos and putting them online of them chewing them and

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 2>gagging to see how much they could handle. And then

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 2>we actually have a that knows somebody whose child died

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>eating one by accident.

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>That fella forgot about that well. But so the reason

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that laundry pods are back in the news is because

0:42:13.520 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>some politicians in Taiwan, they're having an election, they decided

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:23.240
<v Speaker 1>to give out as you know how like JFK would

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>give out pins with his name on it during the

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>election time and stuff. No, in Taiwan, they're given out

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>tie pods.

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 2>And this is another situation of if you guys are

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>in the grosser room, we link all the stories we

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>talk about so you could easily see all the pictures

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>we're referencing.

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But this is a case where I looked at these.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Pictures and tide pods look like detergent to me, And

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 2>these did look like candies. They looked like little fun

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 2>syrups and plane pouches. And some people that have maybe

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 2>never seen detergent pods before would have absolutely no idea

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>what this would be. Definitely could very easily be mistaken

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 2>by candy, especially by the eighty year old man an

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 2>eighty six year old woman that in Taiwan that consumed these.

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and like who exactly, like even in let's say

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that even happened in America or happened anywhere, Like why

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>would you think that a political candidate was sending you

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:21.280
<v Speaker 1>laundry detergent?

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Like it's kind of rude, Like does he think that

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>they need to deterg.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I don't even know what would

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>be behind it, like why they would do it. But

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 1>like Maria was saying, the photos shows it does have

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 1>that little disintegrating like rap that they have on the

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 1>outside of them. But it's like two little ones and

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>one was green and one was blue, I think, but

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I could see that an elderly person could think that

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>that was a piece of candy of some sort. I mean,

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>obviously you would know right away that it wasn't, but

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 1>it's too late. These things are filled with polymers and

0:43:54.840 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>ethanol and hydrogen peroxide, and they're toxic. And when this happening,

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>this was like a popular thing that was happening back

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen. It was blamed for ten deaths, and

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>two of them were toddlers, which you could understand that

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>that would be appealing to a little kid, but eight

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>of them were senior citizens with dementia. So apparently that's

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.240
<v Speaker 1>a thing they're saying.

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 2>They're trying to get these laundry pods banned completely. I

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 2>think this could be solved with a little stamp on it.

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 2>That's his detergent. Like, I don't think they need to.

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Does not need to be banned at all. It just

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>needs to be in because you if you go through

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>your cabinet, especially your cleaning materials, everything needs to be

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>banned because a kid could die from eating any of them. Right,

0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>you have to keep it closed and not available to children.

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the parents' job, right. I do think, however, that

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 1>politicians should not be giving them out as party favors

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>like that should be banned the practice of tide pods

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>as candy favors should be banned. I'm okay with that.

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 2>It's very weird to just give somebody detergent. I'm sorry, Like,

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of really.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Rude that they're probably they're probably thinking like, hey, laundry

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>detergent's really expensive. If we give this person like a

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>load of free laundry, then maybe they'll vote for us.

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the thinking is. It's it's so bizarre,

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>it's so busy. I don't blame these people. They were

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 1>elders and they didn't know better, and it does look

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>like candy. So agreed, all right, This next case is

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 1>messed up again. This happened back in twenty and eighteen.

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>So there was an Asian couple that spent over one

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars to get IVF treatment so they could

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>have a baby, and the woman got pregnant and was

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.360
<v Speaker 1>told that she was She got pregnant with two girls,

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and shit started on ravelin real fast when she had

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>her ultrasound done and they were like, congratulations, you're present.

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>You're pregnant with twin boys. So that was when they

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 1>first started questioning the IVF clinic like, hey, I thought

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you said you put two girls inside me, and I

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 1>have two boys inside me, and they kind of denied

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.919
<v Speaker 1>it and blew it off. But the ultimate test came

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 1>when she gave birth to two boys that were not

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>only male, but they were white kids when this was

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>an Asian couple.

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the most messed up part of this was

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>they were forced to give up the kids to the

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 2>true biological parents.

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so how horrible. Yeah, going through an entire pregnancy

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and then finding out quite early on in your pregnancy

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>that something might not be right, but still going along

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 1>with it, going through the whole pregnancy, giving birth, and

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>then having to give the babies away.

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 2>And the true biological mother to these embryos was also

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>mistakenly implanted with somebody else's embryo, but that ended up

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:57.439
<v Speaker 2>in a miscarriage. So this fertility clinic is all over

0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 2>the place.

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I would be so scared if I did, if I

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>had IVF or something, just having in the back of

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>my mind like was that did someone there screw that up?

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Because how crazy is that? And especially if you went

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to that particular clinic, I would be like getting DNA

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 1>testing done and stuff. I mean, it doesn't matter. Ultimately,

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>if you love your kid, it's your kid, whatever, but

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 1>it's you would also want to know if your biological

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>child was being raised by someone else.

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, yeah, I think there's many problems in this.

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 2>The first couple that gave birth, like the woman went

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 2>through the entire experience of thinking she was going to

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 2>become a mother, having her body change, delivering the babies,

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 2>only to find out that they're not hers, and then

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 2>she can't even keep them. There's this component of it

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 2>where you might there might be a switch up and

0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 2>you could deliver the wrong baby, but you raised that

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 2>kid as your own, and who cares because a kid

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 2>is a kid and you want to form a loving

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 2>bond with them. But to give birth and then have

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to immediately give them away.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.640
<v Speaker 1>How could you ever get over that? I don't know,

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>you would have serious issues. Yeah, it's like it's like

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>a life ruining event. And plus who knows, maybe she

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have any more kids or something like. It's it sucks.

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And if you're going through I think that I

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say this about everybody, but I want

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 2>to say if most people going through IVF, I assume

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 2>have had issues with natural conception, which is why they're

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 2>going this route. So it's not only enough that you

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 2>have to go through this whole mental game of I

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 2>can't get pregnant naturally, but then finally there's these medical

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 2>advancements that allow you to do it anyway, and then

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>you can't even keep the babies and it makes me

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:46.399
<v Speaker 2>stick to my stomach thinking about it. And then this

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 2>clinic is just totally blowing them off like this is

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent not acceptable.

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's not. But they're gonna get theirs and

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 1>it's it's gonna be good. I mean, they could prove

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 1>all of it, so it's you just can't.

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 2>You can't make errors like this. They're just these companies

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 2>don't have these systems in place to make sure this

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:07.839
<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen. And it's really this hard.

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy that you can do this technology and get

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:17.080
<v Speaker 1>someone pregnant under a microscope and inject them and this

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.879
<v Speaker 1>and that, and then you don't take simple precautions as

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to how not to mix up the specimens, like it's

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the simplest thing in the world. It's just crazy.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think everybody is just so vegged out, and

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, I find it funny because I get made

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 2>of fun of so often because I have my journal.

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 2>You know that I religiously schedule out every week and

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 2>all like everything in my life, and everybody thinks I'm

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>a psycho for doing that. But that's how you run

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>a business and you keep things together. So I think

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.760
<v Speaker 2>some people need to take more a type and anally

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 2>organized people to be kind of controlling these systems, because

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I just don't see how this even is possibly acceptable.

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying you wouldn't put like me in charge

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of the freezer at the embryo clinic.

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would, And it's it's nothing against you.

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I just think I'm more organized than you, So if

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 2>the job was between the two of us, I would

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 2>think me, the spreadsheet queen, could could keep a little

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:18.760
<v Speaker 2>more organization going in that system.

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 1>All right. So this next story I wanted, I wanted

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:26.320
<v Speaker 1>to talk about because this situation has happened to me before.

0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to get started on it?

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:31.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, as I was reading this, a sweating thing.

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>This twenty two year old woman went to the bathroom

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 2>around midnight and nothing was out of the ordinary, and

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:42.800
<v Speaker 2>then an hour later goes back and realizes her legs

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:47.319
<v Speaker 2>are turning blue, so her her and her partner call

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 2>an ambulance and the medic slot she was having a

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 2>blood clot and as they're going through the medical process

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 2>of getting to the hospital, her fingers start turning blue

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 2>as well, and she's freaking out. Nobody knows what's going on.

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:02.280
<v Speaker 2>So hours passed and her legs start then turning black

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 2>and they think they're bruised. They put it on a

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 2>blood thinner. Nobody could figure out what was going on.

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It turns out that the dye in her leggings was

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:14.720
<v Speaker 2>rubbing off on her legs, which was turning her legs

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 2>black and blue.

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 1>It's seriously like this has happened to me because I

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>wear black jeans almost every single day of my life,

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and if you if you're outside and you get like

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 1>wet in the rain, or if you sweat or something,

0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:32.839
<v Speaker 1>it stains your skin. Sometimes blue jeans do it too, right,

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And I remember I had like a you know, those

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>like really dark levies, the like old school color ones,

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>those really really dark blue ones. I had them once

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and like I pulled my pants down to go to

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and my thighs were like all blue and

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the fuck, why is my skin

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 1>such a weird color? And then I was like, oh,

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 1>I saw it on my fingers later, and I was like, Oh,

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>it has to be from my pants, just from like

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>sweating or something. And I'm sure this is happened to

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:05.320
<v Speaker 1>so many other people, just not this woman. But it's

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you start reading the story and you're just like, oh God,

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this lady was having a blood clot while she was

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>pregnant PSA. And then all of a sudden, it's like, Oh,

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:17.799
<v Speaker 1>it's it's because of her pants that die in her pants.

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, best case scenario for the situation. She posted

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>her this whole story on TikTok and it's gone viral

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously because it's hilarious, and she's like, I'm so embarrassed

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it.

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 4>It's true, like she she is giving some uh information

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 4>because like, if this happens to someone else, then they

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 4>would save themselves embarrassment going to the emergency room for

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 4>absolutely no reason.

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.839
<v Speaker 1>That's just like a rollback over and go to bed thing,

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And look at all the

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>drama it caused. Oh yeah, totally.

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 2>So at least this is a good situation coming out

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 2>of it and funny to talk about, but I've definitely

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 2>been in that position as well. So I feel like

0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 2>most people that wear black jeans are leggings.

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Totally can really it's true, all right. In other death news,

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>we have one story this week which is a story

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that we talked about it on Mother

0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Knows Death, but we have talked about it in the

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>gross room for sure. That it involves a funeral home

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in Colorado called Return to Nature that started around twenty seventeen,

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and their mission was to give people to offer people

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>green burials, which is without embalming fluid, and also cremations.

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:37.440
<v Speaker 1>So do you want to tell them so, like what

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.840
<v Speaker 1>bad shit they did? Yeah?

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 2>So there was the police forgetting all these reports of

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:48.440
<v Speaker 2>this absolutely horrible smell coming from this building in Colorado,

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 2>and so in November, the owners of this funeral home

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 2>were arrested. Well, first of all, they fled to Oklahoma

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 2>trying to avoid prosecution, like you could possibly do that

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 2>in this case. But investigators entered the Colorado funeral home

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and found two hundred abandoned bodies. There was stacks of

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:12.360
<v Speaker 2>partially covered human remains, bodily fluid several inches deep on

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 2>the floor, flies and maggots in the whole building. How

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 2>absolutely disgusted. Could you even fathom what that would smell like?

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.799
<v Speaker 1>No, I can't, But I mean technically it is a

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:27.840
<v Speaker 1>burt a green burial without embombing fluid. Yeah, but this

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:30.439
<v Speaker 1>is where the problem comes. It's not there's a lot

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of problems, trust me, a lot.

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe if these people had stink bombs, then they give.

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I hope that the police did that showed up

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and had to and also the all of the investigators

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that had to take all these bodies and examine them

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and identify them.

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 2>So twenty three of the bodies were from twenty nineteen

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 2>and sixty one of them were from twenty twenty. The

0:54:56.600 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 2>messed apart is that some of these families had received

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 2>remains of their loved ones supposedly, but it turns out

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:08.359
<v Speaker 2>that these people were sending them like concrete mix. It's

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 2>it's so messed up.

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Like there was one story about a woman that thought

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:15.719
<v Speaker 1>her husband was he was military, he was a VET,

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and thought that he was taken care of at a

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 1>VET cemetery and they didn't. They didn't even it's not

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 1>even him like it's it's just so crazy to think

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:31.280
<v Speaker 1>about that. They also found animal remains, so I'm assuming

0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:34.280
<v Speaker 1>that they were trying to push off like dead animal

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.600
<v Speaker 1>cremains as as human as well giving them to people.

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 1>They were saying that this was a mixture of infants, children, adults,

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:46.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's like their marketing is like, hey, we don't

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:48.120
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to put all these chemicals into your

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:51.719
<v Speaker 1>family member. And I mean, I guess I don't know

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>what their plan was because technically they're not doing that,

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 1>but like what were they doing. They were just going

0:55:56.520 --> 0:56:00.320
<v Speaker 1>to plan on what was that plan? So just doesn't

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>make any sense.

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Again, idiots were texting each other about it, so obviously

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 2>that's been pulled up. But the police found text between

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.879
<v Speaker 2>them showing that they were under financial pressures. They had

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:16.319
<v Speaker 2>fears they'd be caught for mishandling the bodies. One of

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:19.080
<v Speaker 2>the coners, the coners were also the owners, were also

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a married couple, so one of them suggested getting rid

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:25.760
<v Speaker 2>of the bodies and digging them in a big hole

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 2>or setting them on.

0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Fact, they were going to dig a big hole and

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:32.839
<v Speaker 1>put lie on them to digest their bodies. I mean,

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>what do you think like I want to know what

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>their business plan was, like, all right, we're going to

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:42.399
<v Speaker 1>offer these green funerals like number one, Well, we are

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:45.879
<v Speaker 1>interviewing a funeral director that this week or next week,

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 1>so we were definitely going to ask these questions like

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 1>when you open a funeral home, like don't aren't there regulations?

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Isn't there some kind of board coming in and checking

0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.280
<v Speaker 1>to make sure you're doing what you're said you're doing

0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and your following all of these standards. I don't know

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 1>what their plan was.

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I I feel like there has to be some inspection service,

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. We could confirm that in the

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 2>interview tomorrow. But also I wonder if these bodies were

0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 2>stored in a building that was off premise of the

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 2>funeral home so that they wouldn't get caught, because then

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 2>they would pass all the inspections because they wouldn't be

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:24.920
<v Speaker 2>looking in a random place.

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just think though, even with the inspections, they're

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 1>not like okay, like what's your procedure, like when you

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 1>accept a body, like where is it going? Unless they

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 1>were just playing the part and collecting the money so

0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have to pay for the other stuff. I mean,

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I understand that that's probably what they were doing. But

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:47.320
<v Speaker 1>if you, if you're especially if you work in the

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>funeral industry, you know what happens when humans decomposed and stuff.

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're talking like that amount of bodies, two

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred bodies d composing like that would smell very far away.

0:57:58.520 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be like from here to the ext door

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 1>neighbor's house. You would be able to smell it from

0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a hot like a distance away, especially on days where

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like really windy or something. Just like, what are

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you thinking, Like what did you think was going to

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>happen with this? That nobody would ever figure this out?

0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I think about how psycho the restaurant health inspections are,

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and it just makes me wonder how some of these

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 2>other industries don't get in trouble because the restaurant industry

0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 2>is so psychotic with the inspections. I remember this one

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 2>specific time this bar I worked out, we got fined

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 2>because our shelves in the basement that didn't hold any

0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:41.880
<v Speaker 2>food on them, weren't painted, they were just raw wood,

0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 2>and they had to come they like failed us and

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 2>had to come back for that. And then I think

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:50.200
<v Speaker 2>of this funeral home that has two hundred decaying bodies

0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 2>for multiple years in a back room show somewhere, and

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.040
<v Speaker 2>how they just kept going. I mean twenty nineteen was

0:58:57.200 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 2>five years ago.

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Also, like just that, like you're you're just showing up

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 1>to this displace and like throwing a human on top

0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of a pile of humans, like you're you're you're like

0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:10.919
<v Speaker 1>missing a chip, dude for real.

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 2>And then you think you're going to go to Oklahoma

0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 2>and you're.

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Just gonna, yeah, charge at least go to another country, morons. Yeah.

0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 2>So now they're accused of abusing corpses, stealing, laundering money,

0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:29.040
<v Speaker 2>forging documents. They're charged with approximately one hundred and ninety

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 2>counts of abuse of a corpse, five counts of theft,

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:34.720
<v Speaker 2>four counts of the money laundering, fifty counts of the forgery.

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:39.160
<v Speaker 2>They are absolute idiots, And I feel really bad for

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the families that don't have their loved ones like real remains,

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and they essentially got concrete MIxS.

0:59:45.640 --> 0:59:47.640
<v Speaker 1>It's really that actually is like you know how we

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 1>always talk about things that we could just like live

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 1>our whole life not knowing, Like I just wouldn't even

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>want to know. I wouldn't want to know, like I,

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 1>and I know that they have to notify you and everything,

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:04.000
<v Speaker 1>but like that's like like a life ruining thing for people.

1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Like if I if I was in if I had

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:11.520
<v Speaker 1>sent like my family member there, and just knowing what

1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I know about, like what this visual scene was and

1:00:14.920 --> 1:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking that like my dad or my anybody was like

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:22.760
<v Speaker 1>under a pile of decomposing people in a pile of

1:00:22.840 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like necrotics slop like that, it just would like further,

1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 1>it would just be permanently in my mind all the time,

1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Like it just would. It would just be so upsetting

1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and just thank god that this neighbor called the police

1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and was like, what is that smell? And then imagine

1:00:42.000 --> 1:00:44.760
<v Speaker 1>being that neighbor that smelled that all the time. She

1:00:44.800 --> 1:00:47.680
<v Speaker 1>probably smelled it for a very long time before they

1:00:47.720 --> 1:00:51.240
<v Speaker 1>decided to call, because that's usually what happens. And then

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:55.080
<v Speaker 1>finding out that you're smelling people that are decaying, It

1:00:55.120 --> 1:00:57.880
<v Speaker 1>would it would make you physically sick, right to think

1:00:57.880 --> 1:00:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that you were smelling that in your house.

1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, on that note, the Emmys were last night, and

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<v Speaker 2>this episode remember last year they made that Jeffrey Dahmer show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there was an episode nominated for best writing, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was called bad Meat, and it was when his neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>called because the smell was so bad in the apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought that was going to win, because I

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<v Speaker 2>was that was a truly compelling episode the way it

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<v Speaker 2>was written. And that's all I can think about is

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<v Speaker 2>that lady calling the police all the time saying it

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<v Speaker 2>smelled so bad, and then blowing her off, and then

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<v Speaker 2>finally they're like, oh, this guy's just been killing and

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<v Speaker 2>eating people for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean at least. I mean thank god though

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<v Speaker 1>that this person called, because otherwise these people might have

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<v Speaker 1>continued to get away with this. I mean, how would

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<v Speaker 1>you I think I remember reading a past article with

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<v Speaker 1>people saying like, when you get cremains of someone, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've never seen them before, how are you supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>know what they look like? They actually look quite I

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<v Speaker 1>would think like prior, Like we watched Meet the Parents

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, Remember the part where he pops the

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<v Speaker 1>cork off and it hits the mom's urn and the

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<v Speaker 1>urn falls on the ground and the ashes are there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the cat peas on the ashes. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not really what like, that's not what cremaanes look like.

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<v Speaker 1>They're usually like a little bit more like chunkier. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I'm not like, it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>cigarette ashes like you think it would look like.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, like you are familiar with it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I would have zero idea, And I don't think i'd

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<v Speaker 2>be googling what it looked like if I wasn't talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Now I'm going to because we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it and I'm curious. But I don't think in a

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<v Speaker 2>normal setting, if I had a love one died, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, this might not be them when we look.

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<v Speaker 1>And how are you gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust even if you're even if you sent your relative

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<v Speaker 2>to them? In the two So they started in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're saying the oldest bodies dated back to twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you gonna trust in that two year window

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<v Speaker 2>that you got services done there, that you actually received

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<v Speaker 2>the right process and you have your loved ones and

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't just disposing of the bodies the whole time. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much anybody that's ever been sent there has to

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<v Speaker 2>consider it a wash because how would you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And how I mean, how many bodies are they getting

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<v Speaker 1>there a year?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just I don't see. There has

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<v Speaker 2>to be some mental illness or something going on. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't see how you could just keep collecting bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't you think if you got to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where you had one body and you couldn't handle the

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<v Speaker 2>services or you couldn't afford it, that you would have

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<v Speaker 2>to just shut down your business.

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<v Speaker 1>People are so weird about stuffs. It always amazes me

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<v Speaker 1>when you have like a couple, especially that two people

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<v Speaker 1>come together and say, like, you know what, this is

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<v Speaker 1>how we're gonna handle this. We're just gonna put them

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<v Speaker 1>in this giant barn and start stacking them on top

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<v Speaker 1>of each other and closing door like, and both of

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<v Speaker 1>them were like, Okay, that's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep doing that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think there's just something really deep going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's all gonna come out in court because I

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<v Speaker 2>if they're I don't know. I'm thinking if they fled,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna try to plead not guilty to this because

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<v Speaker 2>something clearly, something's clearly not right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be interested in watching a trial of this magnitude.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also don't think we should waste the resources

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<v Speaker 2>on people like this when they're so clearly guilty. All Right,

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<v Speaker 2>onto our Questions of the Day. Every Friday on the

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<v Speaker 2>at Mother Knows Death Instagram, we put up a little

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<v Speaker 2>question box your guys. Questions are awesome every week, but

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<v Speaker 2>we can only pick a couple to answer. So our

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<v Speaker 2>first one this week is have you ever served as

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<v Speaker 2>an expert witness in court?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that. Would you be interested? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I'm pretty sure because we're like for malpractice purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're covered underneath of the physicians that we work for

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part in the hospital. So I don't think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know of any PAS that have for pathologists

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<v Speaker 1>assistance anyway, I don't. But I'm not saying that PAS

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. I'm just saying that in particular, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's never been That's never been a thing that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been asked to do, or anybody that I know

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<v Speaker 1>in my profession has been asked to do. All Right, next,

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<v Speaker 1>are you a medical examiner? No, So a medical examiner

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<v Speaker 1>would be the one that would testify at court. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a medical examiner. A medical examiner is like probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most highly trained doctors that could be

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and I'm certainly not one of those. A

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<v Speaker 1>medical examiner has goes to medical school for four years,

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<v Speaker 1>then does a pathology residency for four years, and then

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<v Speaker 1>does additional forensic training on top of that before they're

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<v Speaker 1>even allowed to be a medical examiner. And they are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that perform the autopsies but also determined to

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<v Speaker 1>cause the death at the for forensic autopsies mostly, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they do natural ones too, because sometimes you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if a death is suspicious or not. So the

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<v Speaker 1>person the medical examiner do the autopsy and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they had cancer, but they just have to rule out

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<v Speaker 1>that there wasn't foul play or anything. But but no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a medical examiner.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we pick guests excluding the people that we

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<v Speaker 2>already know?

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<v Speaker 1>So I just am interested in so many different things

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<v Speaker 1>that I want to share with you guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>really cool, and especially I have so many questions. So

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<v Speaker 1>for example, tomorrow we are interviewing a pretty famous funeral

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<v Speaker 1>director and she I have a lot of questions to

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<v Speaker 1>ask her because I've been doing autopsies for so many

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<v Speaker 1>years and I never really sat down with a funeral

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<v Speaker 1>director and had all of these conversations about things. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always had questions too, and I know everybody has questions too.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's just like all this other stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't even know existed. So I'm going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>her a bunch of questions that I have questions to.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all these We just hear all of this cool

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and we meet all of these cool people, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's how we decide, like what we're gonna share

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<v Speaker 1>with you. So we're gonna doctor Shaham Das wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>book called Into Minds that we loved and we loved

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him in the grossroom. So we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>him on soon. Well hopefully if he says yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask him still. But we love him and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a forensic psychiatrist and just his perspective on life

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<v Speaker 1>is great. His perspective on criminals is great because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times, you know, we're sitting here talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this lady that gave this baby acidtone and button batteries,

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<v Speaker 1>but he might be like, oh no, she's got she's

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<v Speaker 1>got this and that, and it sometimes you own us

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<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit of sympathy for these criminals he

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<v Speaker 1>talks about because of their mental they're not just like

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. They're not they don't have the devil

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<v Speaker 1>in them. It's like they just have some psychiatric illness,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe schizophrena or something that has them hearing voices to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. And then you feel terrible for them because

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<v Speaker 1>they're I mean, imagine hearing someone talk into your ear

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<v Speaker 1>all day telling you to do horrible stuff. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not their fault. It's like something's wrong with their brain,

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<v Speaker 1>just like something would be wrong with their pancreas or

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<v Speaker 1>their lungs. So he has a really interesting perspective because

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<v Speaker 1>he's worked in a psychiatric a forensic psychiatric hospital, has

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<v Speaker 1>been punched in the face by people worked with killers,

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<v Speaker 1>and just has a really interesting perspective. So we just

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<v Speaker 1>think of We always just think of like, wow, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>People might want to know that because it's not common knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess that's how obviously, like I have great

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<v Speaker 1>connections with great people who are like, hey, you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to interview my friend. They do this or they

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and then of course suggestions from you guys

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<v Speaker 1>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're really lucky to have you guys suggesting a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of people, which is how we lined up with

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<v Speaker 2>our interview happening tomorrow. We'll keep that still under wraps

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<v Speaker 2>even though you can probably figure it out. But and

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<v Speaker 2>then we have our awesome family friend Michelle that really

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<v Speaker 2>helps with a lot of this stuff. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we like to offer unique perspectives, and especially me as

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<v Speaker 2>a lay person, I've learned so much from your interviews

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<v Speaker 2>with people, especially your interview with doctor Stephen Lynn yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned all this crazy stuff about how leaky gut

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<v Speaker 2>and dental issues relate, and sun exposure, in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>is blown. So it's cool to really expand on some

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<v Speaker 2>of these stories that we can. We only have so

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<v Speaker 2>much time to get into and take a deeper dive

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<v Speaker 2>on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that's that's it. And if you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>any sig ess, Like, obviously we're on Instagram, that's our

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<v Speaker 1>biggest platform, but like we don't know every influencer that's

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<v Speaker 1>doing cool things or just writing cool books or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So if you guys have any recommendations, we're

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<v Speaker 1>always open to hear it because we just want to

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<v Speaker 1>share all the cool knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>And we like to go on other shows too, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you think we'd have a good spot on somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else's show, you should let them know you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>hear us. All there, So all right, our last question

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<v Speaker 2>is what are each of our roles within our business?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Maria's the boss and I have to ask permissionally,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I guess I make most of the content.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that's my particular job. Is just like

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with the ideas, writing all the stuff, writing

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<v Speaker 1>all the Instagram and then I come up with other

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that I bring to Maria's attention to say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>could we do this? Obviously it's like I'm a person

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm married and I have three kids, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>a person and she's married. So there's only so much

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<v Speaker 1>time in the day for us to do stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have ideas of like what I want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we have ideas of like what's realistic to

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<v Speaker 1>do because we a lot of it is like we're

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<v Speaker 1>the only ones that could do it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we could really delegate it. Certain things to people

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<v Speaker 1>we did like recently, not even recently, maybe it's been

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<v Speaker 1>like a year now that we hired Michelle in the

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<v Speaker 1>gross room, and she's writing articles for us, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has a completely different perspective than I do, so so

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<v Speaker 1>it's great. She's actually I feel like she's a much

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<v Speaker 1>better writer than I am to but she Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>writes about all sorts of interesting topics too, but mine

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<v Speaker 1>is more for from a perspective of working in the

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<v Speaker 1>lab and doing autopsies and what I would look for

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<v Speaker 1>and what I would see, And she writes just from

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<v Speaker 1>a different perspective, so that's cool. And Maria writes articles

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes too.

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<v Speaker 2>Maria helps, well, I like to stick to more historical

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<v Speaker 2>things that don't require so much medical background because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's your expertise. I yeah, Like I like

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<v Speaker 2>to write articles. I wrote one about the Great Smog

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the forties or fifties in England. They

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<v Speaker 2>covered it on the Crown and that's where I initially

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<v Speaker 2>saw it. So I like to write about stories like

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<v Speaker 2>that that have a historical component, but you could kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just discuss what happened versus getting into all the

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<v Speaker 2>nitty gritty like you usually do. So that's where I

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<v Speaker 2>try to come in with cool facts and then I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, you're the front end. I'm the back end

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<v Speaker 2>to you all the content stuff, and I do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the behind the scenes stuff like editing this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>setting up the meetings, making spreadsheet for everything, organizing the calendar, doing.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we both have very different personality.

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<v Speaker 1>Types when it comes to doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that this flow works for us. And

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<v Speaker 2>the benefit of being a mother daughter duo is that

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<v Speaker 2>when one of us messes up, we could scream at

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<v Speaker 2>each other, but we still love each other at the.

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<v Speaker 1>End of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's the kind of plus of working with

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<v Speaker 2>family in that sense, is you could scream your head

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<v Speaker 2>off and not worry about some HR complate because I

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<v Speaker 2>am HR so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's it's just we we just have a

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth all day. Like even if I'm writing,

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<v Speaker 1>like yesterday, I was writing the first part of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the Black Dohlia case, so I'll just scream across

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<v Speaker 1>the room and say, hey, look this up for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this is this something that we know about? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just because I didn't know even about this Glasgow

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<v Speaker 1>smile thing. And then I said, hey, Bree, like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>up with this this? I feel like this this wound

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<v Speaker 1>is weird? Look it up? What is this while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>writing something else. So there's like a lot of back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth stuff we do. And Maria does all of

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<v Speaker 1>the the av stuff just getting the podcast together. She

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<v Speaker 1>makes the clips, she set up the videos, she set

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<v Speaker 1>up the platforms that we use, She does all like

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<v Speaker 1>that technical stuff. She does the whole entire grocery website too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we shockingly well I'm sure some people can't tell,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't believe that that when we record this,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not together. You're you're in your space, I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>my space. We're not in the same area. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>not in the same house, we're not in the same place.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's been fun technically learning how to chew that butt.

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<v Speaker 1>And her yelling at me every time, like would you

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<v Speaker 1>fucking get a new computer. Your computer's too old, it's

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<v Speaker 1>too slow. Get a good computer. It's like ground hot

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<v Speaker 1>to day, but it literally is.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and then we we do really work together

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<v Speaker 2>every single day in person except for the day we

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<v Speaker 2>record this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then and then the weekends, like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday and Sunday, you don't come to my house either,

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<v Speaker 1>But we usually see each other because we're family spending

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<v Speaker 1>forty hours a week with your mother. It's really horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>Like your mom makes you lunch some days and buys

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<v Speaker 1>you lunch the other days, and you never had it.

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<v Speaker 1>You never have to buy your own coffee. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>go on and on about this. You can come to

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<v Speaker 1>work and your pajamas.

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<v Speaker 2>You do make an exceptional lot day, I will say so,

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<v Speaker 2>I am very grateful for that. And the days you don't,

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<v Speaker 2>you buy me bubble tea and again and very thankful. So, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we have we have a really good dynamic and it

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<v Speaker 2>is it is really just us too, and then Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>helps us with some content and other little things. So

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<v Speaker 2>thank you guys for your patience all the time, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's fresh shooting at times where we you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot going on. There's there's a lot happening,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of content being put out and that's

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<v Speaker 2>only us too, so there's only so much we could do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you for your Questionence.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate all of your all of you listeners, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're stoked to do this show and it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>really cool couple of months so far, as.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been having a great time doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, thank you guys so much. It's snowing

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<v Speaker 2>where we live and we're having a nice little cozy

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<v Speaker 2>snow day recording, so I hope wherever you are you're

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<v Speaker 2>having a nice little day. So we will see you

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<v Speaker 2>guys next week with our interview with our Secret Guest

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<v Speaker 2>and our Nest episode.

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<v Speaker 1>So bye bye, thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.

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<v Speaker 1>As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

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<v Speaker 1>and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I've

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<v Speaker 1>not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without the

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<v Speaker 1>assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,

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<v Speaker 1>and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform

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<v Speaker 1>people based on my experience working in pathology, so they

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<v Speaker 1>can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.

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<v Speaker 1>Always remember that science is changing every day and the

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<v Speaker 1>opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge

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