1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? Thanks for coming back, everybody. This is 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: going to be part two of our favorite moments from 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: the first six months of. 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Are You a Charlotte. I hope you enjoy. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: And I'm honored to have you for many reasons. Number One, 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I'd just like to see you. I love to see 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: Number two Lena, in case you guys don't know, is 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: a multi hyphen it. I'm going to tell you your whole 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: resume later and you're not in front of me. But 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: the thing that's important is that her knowledge a film 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: and television is so expansive and deep, and this is 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: partly why I love her. Like when we first started, 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: and just like that, you left me the sweetest, sweetest voicemail. 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what panicky thing I had sent to 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: you or whatever, but you know, you're just very grounding. 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Your knowledge is very grounding in terms of you know 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: what has happened before, you know how things develop in 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: our culture on television, in film, what it means, and 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: as you just said to me when you sat down 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: we were talking about this episode, you said, I think 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: television has a time stamp. 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: But tell me more, what do you mean exactly? 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 3: Well, I think sometimes when people look at TV from 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: say ten years ago or even twenty, it can feel 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: in moments uncomfortable or icky, even because you're thinking, oh, well, 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: no Onah would make that joke today, or you couldn't 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: do that now. And what's interesting about that is what 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: I believe art is it's time capsule, really, and it's 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: a time stamp of where we were at that time 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: and what was happening in the world then. And so 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: I think of even though yes, He's are fictitious characters, 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: in a way, this is sort of giving us a 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: sense of what New York was at that time, what 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: it was for women at that time, what the limits 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: were at that moment, and what could and couldn't be 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: talked about, and what barriers you guys were pushing up against. 38 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: And so I'm really grateful that I got to grow 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: up with it. I was, like am I I was 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: a teenager when it first came, and so I was 41 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: learning so much about what it meant to be an 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: adult friend by watching you all. And I think I 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 3: was more interest than that than the love stories per se. 44 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: But the love stories were there as well sold you 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: about self love and how you see yourself. But watching 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 3: it now as a forty year old person revisiting the episode, 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: for a lot of us who are my age, we 48 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: feel a little confronted by now Sex and the City 49 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: because we are now the ages that you guys were 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: then at that time, and we're seeing ourselves play out 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: some of these storylines, and that I think is saying 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: that the show. You may point certain things out and say, oh, 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: you can't make that joke now, but I do think 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: the show is aging well, thank you, because the fact 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: that I can see myself in it as I get 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: older and understand things better. It's work that I've gotten 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: to grow up with and I still get to sit 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: with now. But now it's not a lot of us 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: are saying, it's not just fun on the background. Now 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: now it's okay, I'm in this stage right now, or 61 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: I'm going through a divorce, or I'm about to get married, 62 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: or I'm about to have my first baby, and so 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: now it's as if you guys are still there. I 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 3: think of art as an inheritance, and so we have 65 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: inherited this, this work, and that's why I think within 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: just like that is the continuation of the life of 67 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: the work. And so when I go back and revisit 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: and just like that, I will be as I get older, 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: I will then start to understand these stories even more. 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: He always got my eighties is the eighties. I was 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: doing an off Broadway show at the time. It was 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: it was the end of nineteen ninety nine, I think, 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: or two thousand, okay, I think it was early two 74 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: thousand and I he said, I wrote you something. 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: So he wrote it for you. Yeah, that's amazing. 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: But I was doing an off Broadway show at the time. 77 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: But I went in to read just make it official, 78 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: and you know. So I was doing a show called 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: The Crumple Zone, which did very well, ran for six 80 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 4: months off Broadway, and I. 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: I remember our night. The day we filmed. It was 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: a tech day and the director, who I. 83 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 6: Loved very much, not please no, he didn't want to 84 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 6: let me out. 85 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 5: I'm like, it's a tech day. People stand there and 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: you light it right. 87 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 4: And I went like this, I'm going to do this 88 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: episode because there was an. 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 6: Issue of maybe. 90 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: Oh no, I was like, I'm going to do. 91 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: This episode and I went, oh no. It wasn't desperation episode, 92 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: like what was. 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: There was one? 94 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: It was one episode that was wedding as your wedding 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: wedding player, and do you remember we had two scenes? 96 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: We had a SCE scene. 97 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: I remember, Okay, see I love I love so you 98 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 4: do every episode I don't. 99 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 5: I was recurring. 100 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: I did people go how many episodes. 101 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 5: Did I do? 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: I did twelve? 103 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 6: Only twelve? 104 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 5: I did one? Season three? Yeah to season four? 105 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 4: Are three, Season five and six season six, and. 106 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 5: Then both movies. 107 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 4: Regular the movies really kind of solidified it, which was nice, 108 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: you know. So uh, there were two scenes in that 109 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: first episode. There was the one hates it, the very 110 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: famous hates it. 111 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: With the wedding dress. 112 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't use Yeah, all that's okay. You're you're dragging 113 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: and I'm yelling at the girl. And then there was 114 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 4: another scene in the back of the vera Wang in 115 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 4: this kind of little area yep, and I was fitting 116 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: you and you were getting very anxious as Charlotte, and 117 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: I had his scissors and it ripped the dress and 118 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: you were furious and we just kind of looked at 119 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: each other. That scene got cut because it was at 120 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 4: three in the morning, four in the morning. There wasn't 121 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: enough coverage, and they cut it. Luckily they cut it 122 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: because it was almost like an argument between us. 123 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: I dressed, so it might not have gone well. So well, 124 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: they probably wanted to keep you. They probably knew already. 125 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. No. 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 4: I remember running into Michael and he said, do you 127 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: know how much great feedback we got on you? 128 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 5: I said, I don't know. 129 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 6: I said, and I don't care. 130 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 5: I just want to know him. I coming back and 131 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 5: I said, yes. 132 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: I need some clarity though, because sometimes people say things 133 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: that I'm not quite sure if I'm hearing correctly, Like 134 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: basically sam is saying. Samantha saying that you don't want 135 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: to be the guest star in the Three Cents. 136 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 6: So you do want to be the guest. 137 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: You don't want to be the guest star because you 138 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: don't want connections. 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 7: You don't want connections. You don't want to do it 140 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 7: with like a good friend. You want to be like 141 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 7: you want to come in and out, enjoy it and 142 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 7: get the hell out right. 143 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: It's so crazy that Charlotte's like, no, maybe I would 144 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: want one of my friends, but. 145 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 6: That's so Charlotte. 146 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 7: She's like she would feel safe that way. It was terrible. 147 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 6: If she tried to converse. 148 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 8: Terrible, okay, just terrible in so many ways, Like, oh 149 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 8: my god. 150 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Anyway, I had a moment of fear then too, because 151 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't remember any of this. 152 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 6: She's like, wait, oh didn't I have a try to talk. 153 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: Her into it? Oh my god. I was mortified. Thank god, 154 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: I do not. But then poor Miranda. 155 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 6: I know, I know, it's so adorable. 156 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: I remember this at. 157 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 7: All, I know, and I love I really I love 158 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 7: how Cynthia played it through the episode so brilliant, like 159 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 7: I'm going to get to the bottom of this, and 160 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 7: I'm upset and I'm sorry I wasn't chosen. 161 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 6: I am not upsetting, I know. 162 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: And she's got this therapist, which like, do you ever 163 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: see this person again? 164 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 6: I don't think we did. Oh my god. 165 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: He's an older man and he basically is like, are 166 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: you asking to have a THREESOMEE? 167 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: Right? 168 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: It's so weird and funny, and it's such a traditional 169 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: looking therapy office where I'm just like, is this what. 170 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: A therapy would look like in nineteen ninety eight? 171 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 7: And Manattan knows it was probably whatever set we had 172 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 7: said that we could put up two flats, some books 173 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 7: and some books. 174 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 9: The first time we met Sarah Jessica was at Pat's apartment, 175 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 9: which is above the store on Eighth Street. It had 176 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 9: rubber floors that after parties she would like kind of 177 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 9: hose and that was sticky liquor or whatever. 178 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure, I don't want to know more. 179 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 9: Let's show s j just a few little ideas. So 180 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 9: we had won Rebecca. 181 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 10: And Pat and I Rebecca was Pat's girlfriend at the time, 182 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 10: as you remember, went to Aina, who had a consignment 183 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 10: store in Soho. Yeah, and pulled a few things, which 184 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 10: we still do for you. We still go there, all 185 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 10: of it so much. 186 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 9: And we showed Sarah Jessica the fur coat, Oh. 187 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 8: You had it right then, Yeah, the clutch purse which 188 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 8: I believe she paired on the show with the fur coat, 189 00:08:52,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 8: and some little mules that were plastic. And I remember, uh, 190 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 8: you know, I always I've kept a diary all my life, 191 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 8: and I remember writing in my diary that Pat and 192 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 8: Sarah Jessica were so excited because they were going to 193 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 8: not wear pantyhose. 194 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: Aha. That was a major major point. 195 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 9: I don't think people understand that. 196 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: No, I don't think people remember that number one. You 197 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: always had to wear them previous, like for me in 198 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: melrose Land and just Los Angeles in general, like that 199 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: was a normal thing. And obviously in South Carolina where 200 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I grew up, I mean, of course, you wore panty hose, right, 201 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: which is what we called them back then. 202 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: And then I remember Pat just like no, and she's 203 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: being like, oh my god. 204 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: And in the beginning when I'm rewatching, obviously I hadn't 205 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: remembered a lot of this, but I've got hose on 206 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: a couple times, and I'm like, Pat must have been so. 207 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 7: Mad at me. 208 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 10: So funny. I'm glad that you understand where that's coming from, 209 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 10: because it was kind of like not a requirement, but 210 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 10: women just wore it. And yeah, Pat, and they were 211 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 10: just we're talking about bare legs, bare legs, yep. 212 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: Even Oh, I know, I remember those days. I remember 213 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: those cold days. 214 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: At one point, you know how at a baby shower, 215 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: there's a tradition, I don't know if you did this 216 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: where you take all the bows from all the packages and. 217 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 11: You make something in your head, yes, did you do this? No, 218 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 11: my baby, my water broke it my baby shower. 219 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like a TV show, No, I know, 220 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: what did you do? 221 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 6: I went to the hospital. Did everyone panic? Everybody panicked? 222 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 11: And they called my husband, who was with some of 223 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 11: the other guy thing like coming a beer on the corner. 224 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 11: And we were here in New York on the I 225 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 11: mean we lived here on the rooftop somewhere nearby. It 226 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 11: was like April, so it was beautiful twelve years ago 227 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 11: and like two weeks my daughters. 228 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 6: About to have her birthday. 229 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. 230 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 11: And they called and they said, and everybody was laughing 231 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 11: because it was it was shocking. 232 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 6: And there was only one man in the. 233 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 11: Room, and it was the cater and he threw paper 234 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 11: towels at us and then walked out of the door. 235 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 6: He was just like, I cannot deal with this, Oh 236 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 6: my god. 237 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 11: And it was what was even more comedic about it 238 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 11: is we were in a circle. I was opening present 239 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 11: right and my friend goes, oh my gosh, she's about 240 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 11: to have that baby right here. My stomach made a 241 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 11: weird movement, Oh my god, which I guess is what happened. 242 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 243 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 11: I have no idea, okay, and it only this has 244 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 11: only happened with my first child and my water broke 245 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 11: in front of every single person sitting, and everybody's reaction 246 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 11: was so different, Like somebody cried because they were pregnant, 247 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 11: and they were like. 248 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: They just had and had so much feeling, so much feeling. 249 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 6: Other people were dying laughing. 250 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 11: So when they called laughing, well, it was like kind 251 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 11: of funny. 252 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 6: Because also I was like, what is that happening? 253 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 12: You know? 254 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 11: But they called my husband and Barbara and my sister 255 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 11: and I have a twin sister, right, We've played so 256 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 11: many pranks on him over the years. Oh no, he 257 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 11: did not believe, like he thought this was like a 258 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 11: funny thing girls were doing. And also he'd been to 259 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 11: the doctor like with me the day before where they 260 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 11: were like, you have six more weeks, So he just 261 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 11: was the thought. And then there is a producer that 262 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 11: works on our show, still now works on our show, 263 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 11: who I've known all these years, twelve years later, who 264 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 11: was so lovely and earnest and kind, and her husband 265 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 11: call was with her, Henry my husband, and she called 266 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 11: and she's like, real, this is real, and he was 267 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 11: like listen. Her husband was like, I know, Barbara and 268 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 11: Jenna can lie, but Carrie cannot. 269 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 6: So you need to go to the hospital. 270 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 12: Woaw. 271 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 13: Yeah. 272 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 6: Anyway, so I we put the bow on her, you. 273 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: Didn't get to Also, I'm not sure people still know. 274 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 6: I feel like it was more no a kind of 275 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 6: like it wasn't. 276 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: Saying, but I just don't know if it still happens. 277 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: So for some reason, Charlotte also manages to get a 278 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: bow on her head, which I really think I probably 279 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: had something to do with because it is one of 280 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: my favorite pictures. 281 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: It's very funny. 282 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I also think because Charlotte just really would 283 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: like to be part of this club, you know what 284 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So then Laney has a huge amount of 285 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: bows on her head, at which point one of her 286 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: friends says, oh, little Sheila is gonna love blah blah blah, 287 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: whatever gift it was. 288 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: And I'm like. 289 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: What and like, you know, kind of a big reaction 290 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: for young Charlotte. I stand up, like that is my 291 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: secret baby name that I told you. She's like, well, 292 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm just really sorry, I don't remember, and this is 293 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: such an unfair thing that I'm about to say. 294 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: But like I. 295 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 1: Back then would have a lot of trouble separating the 296 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: actor from the part, right, So, like later on, when 297 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 1: Big has Natasha like I've said this to Britend, like, 298 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, I just really couldn't look at you. 299 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just couldn't. I just couldn't like you. 300 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 6: I know, it's terrible. 301 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: One of the things I want to ask you about 302 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: is a male perspective of Big here because in this episode, 303 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: which is super interesting to look back on, because Charlotte 304 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: was always pro Big, but I'm looking back on this 305 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: early season and being like ew ew because Carrie is 306 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: very connected and very open. We start the beginning of 307 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: the episode and she's saying, like, you know, we're in 308 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: the middle of New York, seven million people, and it's 309 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: that great shot where you know, real New Yorkers are 310 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: walking acard the camera. It's so cool and it looks 311 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: so seventies now to our eyes now and twenty five 312 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: right close right, all of. 313 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: The cars everything. 314 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: So they're they're like so united and within this crowd, 315 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: and she's obviously, you know, over the moon into it, 316 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: and we assume he is too, and they're spending all 317 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: their time together to the point where she hasn't seen 318 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: the girlfriends at all, and we think she's you know, 319 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: fallen off the cliff. Or whatever, and then cut to 320 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: he says he has a work dinner, and yes, and 321 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: we go out to dinner with her because she said, 322 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Big has a work dinner tonight, a work 323 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: thing tonight, you know, let's go out to dinner. We 324 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: go out to dinner, and we see him in the 325 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: corner having dinner with another woman, which I'm just like 326 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: he should have been out then, like, oh, what the 327 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: heck like just because to me, I would feel that 328 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: they were not in sync. That if I was in 329 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: that relationship and I thought we were over the moon, 330 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: not even talking to our friend's level of connected and 331 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: then he's gone out. 332 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: With another woman. 333 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 6: What the heck? 334 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: Boo out the door? 335 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 6: I guess, what do you think? 336 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 13: Well, so here's the show specifically, Yes, he said he 337 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 13: had a work dinner, so right, a. 338 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: Working I think dinner. 339 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 13: Yeah, there's a lie, a white lie there. Okay, take 340 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 13: that away just for a second, Okay, later on in 341 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 13: the not later on. But I love the way that 342 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 13: that scene was handled. And it's funny you're asking me 343 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 13: about this because I took note of it where he 344 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 13: wasn't caught. 345 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 6: He didn't play it like he was caught. 346 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 13: That's true, which is that was an actor, by the way, 347 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 13: but he didn't play like he was. 348 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: That's a good point. He didn't. 349 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 13: He's like, oh, hey, maybe a little uncomfortable, but hey, 350 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 13: this is Bonnie or whatever her name is ew But 351 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 13: and I just had this conversation with a friend in 352 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 13: real life. Was there an established there was no situation, 353 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 13: and there wasn't here was it where it's like, are 354 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 13: we boyfriend girlfriend? Are we committed? And so you can't 355 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 13: just assume that one is committed and the other isn't. 356 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 13: Even if you're getting the committed vibes, you still have 357 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 13: to have the conversation for sure, but you. 358 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: Just talk emotionally. 359 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with you, but emotionally it would really 360 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: hurt me to think that we were not on the 361 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: same level, like when she goes, oh, I didn't realize 362 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: I was in these feelings by myself. 363 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: That's the upsetting feeling. 364 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 13: Sure, but then you have to take into account the 365 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 13: reasons why he might not be right, I might not 366 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 13: be well. There could be a psychological thing. There could 367 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 13: be something like he's been burned before, he's been hurt before, 368 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 13: his parents have divorced, he's a noncommittal person, he's feeling love, 369 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 13: he's feeling women. 370 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, okay, but let's say that those Okay, He's 371 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: a grown up, right, He's not twenty five, he's not thirty, 372 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: he's a grown up. 373 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: Okay. So she is obviously open to this in a 374 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: way that he seems like he might not be. John 375 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: is in. 376 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: The first season, which really surprised both of us. Yeah, exactly, 377 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: we thought it was like later on in the run. 378 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 12: Absolutely, I would have probably said end of the second 379 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 12: maybe even their. 380 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: Third, which I think of as our best season. 381 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: If we have to pick an overall season. 382 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 6: Episode for your episode, that's why. 383 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying I would put it in the best because 384 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: it's such a good episode. It was written by Michael 385 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: Patrick King, which you can completely tell. 386 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: Oh God, yes, John plays guy. 387 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: He has a real name, is called Thomas John Anderson, 388 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: which is kind of funny. 389 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: Because John three names for three das he's. 390 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Playing Michael Patrick Kings basically and his own episode, and 391 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: he is called the Catholic guy. That's what we call 392 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: him in the shorthand to the friends, and he's opposite 393 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: Cynthia and they are incredible. 394 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: This episode was directed by Matthew Harrison. We don't have 395 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: a ton of memories about him. We're really sorry, I 396 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: who it's apologize if I. 397 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 12: Do never remember the fact vivid memories of MPK not 398 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 12: directing me, but just he's such a brilliant, extraordinary presence 399 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 12: on set and his writing was so great that I 400 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 12: remember him and of course have known him all these 401 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 12: years after. 402 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't remember the directors. I know, but 403 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 5: that's not because he didn't direct a great episode. 404 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 6: Absolutely, because that's an episode. 405 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 5: Good director disappears a little bit. 406 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: This is a good point. And you also direct, so 407 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: you know very well. You know very well. So tell 408 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: us your memories. 409 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: And your thoughts about the new it was relatively new show. 410 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, is this a G rated program? 411 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 11: No? 412 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 12: Well, what I vividly remember is being on top of Cynthia, 413 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 12: having being in the throes. 414 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 5: Of passion and having orgasm. 415 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 12: After or fake orgasm after orgasm, and getting up and sharing. 416 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 12: And you know, a lot of people have seen it 417 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 12: in syndication and all that stuff's out, but in the 418 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 12: I guess the DVD or box set or whatever you 419 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 12: call it these days, you. 420 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 5: See all of those sex scenes. 421 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 12: So what I remember most vividly is being in bed 422 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 12: in flagrante with Cynthia Nixon. 423 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 5: Thank goodness. I had known her. We had done a play. 424 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 12: Together, which is the way you get very into it 425 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 12: very quickly, is by being on stage together. And we 426 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 12: had such a great time doing this play and such 427 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 12: a great rapport and such great trust that we immediately 428 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 12: threw ourselves into it. And you know, this was before 429 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 12: Sex and the City was Sex and the City, So 430 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 12: going to that set and having to do such a 431 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 12: huge sex scene was really nerve racking. 432 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 5: Nerve racking. 433 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 12: So that's my biggest memory is just being on top 434 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 12: of Cynthia and you know, and then the casual after 435 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 12: an hour or two, it becomes so casual, like what 436 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 12: are you gonna have for lunch? I think I'm gonna 437 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 12: have that, you know, totally both yeah, naked. I mean 438 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 12: we all had. We've talked about cook socks and all 439 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 12: that stuff. Yeah, right, right right, And I guess I 440 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 12: remember the sock as well. 441 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: There you go. Very memorable. 442 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean the thing about Cynthia too, which is a 443 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: theme in every guy that I've ever spoken to who 444 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: was opposite hers, that she has no real fear or self. 445 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: Consciousness about it. 446 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, she doesn't. 447 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me to recap all 448 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: these little moments. Everyone, If you haven't heard those episodes, 449 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: they are there. You can go back and re listen 450 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: if you would like, or listen for the first time. 451 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: And I hope you all have a wonderful fourth of 452 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: July and I'll see you back here soon