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Speaker 1: a very pointed, an ardent stance on JJ Watt and

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Speaker 1: eight oh three fifty. But with this big news today,

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Speaker 1: latest installment of Tasker's teammate. We'll see if Steve can

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Speaker 1: as usual, to make life completely difficult for Steve, so

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Speaker 1: this Steve pro Football Hall of Fame inductee for the

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Speaker 1: joining us. And for those of you that don't know,

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Speaker 1: one under Harvey Johnson. It didn't go very well that year,

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Speaker 1: is the proper value and that's worked for them. That's

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Speaker 1: one of the most impressive things about this crew. They

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Speaker 1: don't discipline. Yeah, they don't chase people. Their discipline has

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Speaker 1: been really impressive and they have gotten an aside from

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Speaker 1: as a rookie when he wasn't supposed to, they get

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Speaker 1: better every year. They get better every year, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's it's pretty impressive. And even in the year where

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Speaker 1: they were so good two years ago, this last year,

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Speaker 1: with a completely different identity for their football team, they

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Speaker 1: win five more games, five more games, not just five

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Speaker 1: with two playoff wins. It's unbelievable. I mean, that's I

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Speaker 1: am shocked by that when you when you put that

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Speaker 1: into perspective, they got they changed everything this last night

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Speaker 1: they did and they got better by five games. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: way in on that. Feel free to do so on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. We also will

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Speaker 1: take your calls at eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: and leading us off on the phones today is one

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Speaker 1: Rick in Clarence. Rick, what do you have for us? Yer,

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Hey, how you doing today? Good? That's great?

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Speaker 1: I think t J. Watt would be awesome here. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think that would be a great move for at

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Speaker 1: Oliver and they could learn under And my question is, uh,

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Speaker 1: I would like to seed um try Zimmer. Yeah, as

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Speaker 1: a fullback running back. Um Hill came out and said

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Speaker 1: that he was the fastest big guy that he's seen,

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Speaker 1: and I think him as a running back fullback could

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Speaker 1: do some damage like Erro Campbell. It's an interesting it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting call, Rick, and and you're right, Zimmer has

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Speaker 1: got some footspeed and it's a lot of footspeed for

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Speaker 1: a guy his size. And we've seen other guys like

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens put their their guy. Um, I can't

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Speaker 1: remember the guy's name, the three hundred pound full ball, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ricard Um they put him back there. If you if

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Speaker 1: the guy's athlete enough, great, If he can catch and

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Speaker 1: hold onto the ball when he runs with it, and

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Speaker 1: he's an athlete enough side to side and all that,

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it. There's no problem now. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's an easier transition than the people who called in

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Speaker 1: end just by putting on a few pounds. Going from

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Speaker 1: a d lineman to back to fullback where once in

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Speaker 1: a while you have the ball in your hands. That's

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Speaker 1: you know, if he's got those instincts, that's basically all

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Speaker 1: you need because that he's already got the nastiness and

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Speaker 1: the physicality and all of that. So yeah, that's an

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Speaker 1: easier transition. Realistically, It's it's a package type role, you know,

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Speaker 1: goal line things like that, right, you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: situational right, situational package type role. And we've seen that before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, heck uh, super Bowl they had Vita Vea

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Speaker 1: as a full back on the goal line at three

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds. It's we used to laugh about.

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Speaker 1: And I used to guys used to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: why are you doing that? Why you do it? To me,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, the more you can do, the more

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Speaker 1: valuable you are. And you know, I was holding for

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Speaker 1: place kickers, I was covering, you know, doing all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was playing tight end in mini camp

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Speaker 1: because they had two tight ends, one was injured and

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Speaker 1: one was holding out or whatever. They had like one guy.

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Speaker 1: So I'm playing tight end and they're you know me,

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Speaker 1: I'm I looked like a hood ornament. But still it's

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Speaker 1: the more. It's a it's the it's the concept that

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Speaker 1: the more you can do, the more valuable you are.

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Speaker 1: And a guy like Justin Zimmer, the more he can

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Speaker 1: do the more. Look at Isaiah McKenzie. You know how

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Speaker 1: they use him and plug him into all different kinds

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Speaker 1: of things. That to me is an easier transition position

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Speaker 1: to position than any of the others that we've heard

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Speaker 1: about in this offseason. I get putting Duke Williams or Kumerow,

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Speaker 1: having him put on some weight and move down inside

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Speaker 1: and play tight end because you know you want more

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Speaker 1: from that position. That's a much more likely scenario for

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Speaker 1: a guy through defensive lineman to a fullback than any other.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us. But when we return, it's the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of Tasker's Teammate. We will get back to

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Speaker 1: the J. J. Watt conversation shortly, but Tasker's Teammate coming

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Speaker 1: your way next. We'll see if Steve can guess which

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Speaker 1: former teammate we've got waiting for him on the line

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Speaker 1: with the clues we give him when we return here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. That time of the show here on a

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Speaker 1: Friday where we test the limits of Steve's memory and

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Speaker 1: we enjoy doing it every single week. Fire it up.

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Speaker 1: It's time for Tasker's Teammate. Let's Go, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Wegman's Meals to Go Delicious Meals delivered download the

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Speaker 1: Wegman's app today. Steve Clue number one. All right for

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Speaker 1: this edition of Tasker's Teammate. I was born in South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: ten years after Steve was first introduced to the world,

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Speaker 1: and attended a high school that had the same name

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Speaker 1: as the college where he played in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: They say what he played high school. Attended a high

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Speaker 1: school and had the same name as the college where

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Speaker 1: Steve played in the Big Ten. So you know the

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Speaker 1: birth state and you know the name of the high

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Speaker 1: status only because I saw him on the NFL network.

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Speaker 1: Take Bucky Brooks. It is not Bucky Brooks. Clue number two.

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Speaker 1: I was part of a recruiting class at my university

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Speaker 1: that is seen by many as the second best in

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Speaker 1: school history, as it had fourteen of its twenty one

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Speaker 1: players who would go on to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's a big group. It is not Howard Ballard. Clue

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Speaker 1: number three, Steve Our biggest win during my time with

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Speaker 1: my college team was over number one Florida State in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. MM, I do not know that, doesn't now? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you another one here. I was then one

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Speaker 1: of five members from that aforementioned recruiting class for my

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Speaker 1: college that was drafted in the first round. He's ten

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Speaker 1: years younger than I am, that is correct, so that

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Speaker 1: would put him in Lonnie Johnson. It is not Lonnie Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Lonnie Johnson went to Florida State. Don't don't bother me

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Speaker 1: with details, okay. Clue number five. I was a teammate

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Speaker 1: of Steve's for the first four years of my NFL

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Speaker 1: career before playing for two other AFC clubs as part

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Speaker 1: of a ten year playing career. Marvcus Patton, it is

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Speaker 1: not marvcus Patton, and that was a good guest though.

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Speaker 1: In my four seasons with the Bills, which were also

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Speaker 1: the last four of Steve's career, I was responsible for

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Speaker 1: nine takeaways. JD. Williams, it is not Judy Williams Steve. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's review. Okay, ten years younger than you, right,

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Speaker 1: part of a gigantic recruit in class at a major

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Speaker 1: college or university. Right beat number one Florida State in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, first round draft choice began his NFL

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Speaker 1: career with the Bills. Okay, hold on, oh, Ruben Brown.

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Speaker 1: It is not Ruben Brown. Draftic hold on Wait. First

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Speaker 1: four seasons with the Bills, then played for two other

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Speaker 1: AFC clubs. His first four seasons with the Bills were

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Speaker 1: the last four of your career, Beabs was a second rounder?

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Speaker 1: Who was the who the night? Last four years of

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Speaker 1: your career? So what is that? Ninety seven? Those are

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Speaker 1: the first four of this player's career. So, in not

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Speaker 1: so many words, I have told you this was the

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Speaker 1: Bill's first round draft choice in nineteen ninety four. Oh,

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Speaker 1: now I'm planking on his Now I know who it is.

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Speaker 1: Running back played with us and the and the and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. I can't believe I've got I can't see

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Speaker 1: him now, his number running back. I can see his

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Speaker 1: face Smith? No, No is it? No? No? What's his name?

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Speaker 1: We're not a running back? Who's it's not a running back? Well,

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Speaker 1: I I told you, I said in his first four

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Speaker 1: seasons with the Bills, I was responsible for nine takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Who would that be? Who's a first round draft pick

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Speaker 1: of the Bills. Who's a defender nineteen ninety four, ninety four?

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Speaker 1: It's not Nate Odoms. No, that's too No, it's too recent. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Odams was early draft choice. Burrows was a first round

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Speaker 1: but he was way too Yeah. Why can't I not

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Speaker 1: remember this first round? He's corner defensive. Okay, So after

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Speaker 1: my playing career, I got into coaching, first at the

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Speaker 1: high school level before coaching at the college. In pro level,

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Speaker 1: I'm currently the cornerbacks coach for Louisiana Tech under head

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Speaker 1: coach Skip Holtz. Okay, so he's corner or safety. Why

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Speaker 1: can I not remember a first round? It's not JD.

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Speaker 1: William It's not JD. Williams. Only played here four years,

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Speaker 1: then signed as a free agent with another AFC club.

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Speaker 1: Had a ten year playing career. Dude, I am so old.

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Speaker 1: Why can't I remember this? You are your memory is failing.

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Speaker 1: In the last four years of my career, I kind

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Speaker 1: of remember all those guys. That's right, And he had

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Speaker 1: nine takeaways, including some interceptions. That's big. Yeah, how do

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Speaker 1: I not know this guy? You're just you have a

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Speaker 1: blind spot. Here, and he came from a big program,

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Speaker 1: big program. Dang it, now you should you should make

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Speaker 1: note of the head coach he was coaching at for

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Speaker 1: Louisiana Tech, Skip Holtz. Oh, that might help you a

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Speaker 1: little bit, Jeff Burres, Jeff burst, there you go, well done.

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00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: Steve took some doing, but he got there. Oh see,

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Speaker 1: I knew if I said Notre he's exhausted. I knew

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Speaker 1: if I said Notre Dame, you would have got it

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Speaker 1: in three seconds. Yes, And Jeff is on the line

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Speaker 1: right now, Jeff, what's going on? Well, well, I see

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00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: you made more of an impact on me than I did.

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Speaker 1: I should have got oh man, well that is Jeff

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Speaker 1: is Jeff. We've got to be vague with the clues.

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Speaker 1: If I said Notre Dame, he would have got he's

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Speaker 1: mad at me. Ever since I got somebody on one,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember who I got. I got on one clue,

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Speaker 1: and I guess, so he's mad at I've been hard

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00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: on him lately. What what high school did you go to?

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Speaker 1: Northwestern High School in rock Hill, South Carolina. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that like that I'm supposed to get that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I figured it would kind of help you a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but maybe not. So where are you coaching Louisiana Tech?

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Speaker 1: All right, so who do the Bills need to draft

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Speaker 1: off your off your you know, senior list. Well, we

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Speaker 1: had an opportunity last year to draft for my corner

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Speaker 1: last year Legariu Snee who plays with Kansas City Chief. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: you got another one coming out. We could use another one. No, no,

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Speaker 1: not yet, not yet, guys. Just have some time to

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00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: develop some guys, but eventually we're We're get a couple

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Speaker 1: more coming out. It's good to see you. Look you

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Speaker 1: look identical to the day you were drafting. Well, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. I just cut my hair and just try to,

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Speaker 1: you know, do some things that changed up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: How are you going? I'm doing not as good as

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Speaker 1: you look great. Thank you, guys. I keep forgetting you

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Speaker 1: get these guys. A lot of these guys came through

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Speaker 1: my latter part of my career, and they're all young guys.

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Speaker 1: They all look like that. I keep saying it. You

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Speaker 1: all look like you could be in a soap commercial.

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Speaker 1: You look great. So I tell me this, you like coaching,

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Speaker 1: I do? I do. It's it's a great opportunity to

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Speaker 1: to impact these young men's life. Uh, you're looking as

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Speaker 1: a coach and looking for purpose, and you know at

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Speaker 1: the end of it, you're you're trying to help these

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Speaker 1: young men reach obviously there goes and reach their potential.

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Speaker 1: And I enjoyed. I really enjoyed doing it. Chris, how

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Speaker 1: you doing good to see you. I'm good. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: all right, Thank you. Jeff. And I gotta tell you,

637
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Speaker 1: when I was doing the research for the Clues, I

638
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: totally forgot the recruiting class that lou Holtz put together.

639
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Jeff's here. It's insane, dude, it is insane. Who's on

640
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: that who's in your room? Bettis, Bryant Young? I mean

641
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Speaker 1: there there are some guys, I mean, my lord like,

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Speaker 1: I mean one Hall of Fame, maybe more than one

643
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but Bettis is in. Yeah, Brian Young

644
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Speaker 1: isn't in. And no, no, he hadn't made it yet,

645
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: but he's he's been on the ballot. He was a

646
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: semi falance this past year. Aaron Taylor, who played with

647
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: the Packers, were there. Um, but it's it's it's been great,

648
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 1: it's been great. Who's the quarterback for you guys? I

649
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: was in that class. It was Kevin McDougald, but Rick

650
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: Meyer was my quarterback up until to my junior year,

651
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: and then Kevin McDougald took over and you got to play.

652
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 1: Refresh my memory, though, but I remember you got because

653
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: I growing up in the New York City area there

654
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: is no college football team to really follow, and you

655
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: guys were on TV every day in week so you

656
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: know a lot of guys in New York growing up

657
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: used to just watching other day because they were on

658
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: every week, right, and you didn't have a team to

659
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Speaker 1: root for, so it was basically either rooted for Notre

660
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: Dame or Penn State back then. But refresh my memory.

661
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: You got some carries on offense though, right, Lou put

662
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: you on the field for some offensive packages, right I did.

663
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: I was not a favorite in the running back room

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Speaker 1: towards the my junior senior year because I obviously playing defense.

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Speaker 1: But I was blessed enough to have opportunities to be

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Speaker 1: in the backfield with the Reggie Brooks's and the Jerome

667
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Bettises and the Lee Beckton's and Mark Eppwards guys that

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00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: went on and had successful career. So UH didn't know

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Speaker 1: how it happened, but was fortunate enough to do it. Yeah,

670
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: so what did you think give us an idea when

671
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Speaker 1: you got drafted by Buffalo and you walk you know

672
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Speaker 1: what were your in your early impressions of that team

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Speaker 1: and that organization back when you walked in the room

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Speaker 1: for the first time. Well, I still talk about it

675
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: all the time as far as that team, the people,

676
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: the leadership, the best, the best organization, the best people

677
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: were the best teammates I've ever had, and you being

678
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Speaker 1: one of them, Savy. I just from a standpoint of

679
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: always having a guy that I know when I remember

680
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: when I started being a part returner and just being

681
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: back there with you and you're teaching me the smaller

682
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: nuances of being a pro and at practice it was

683
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: the hardest things ever because I remember we used to

684
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: talk about it. If you can put your hands on

685
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: on Steve in in press man, then you've arrived. And

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00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: I still haven't done that yet. Now I'm pretty sure

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00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: you can stop me now, I'm believe me. Right. That's great, Jeff, great,

688
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: seedy man. You look great. It's wonderful to see it.

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00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, I'm so glad you're

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: in coaching because it's it is the best way for

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00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: guys like us to affect young guys and make their

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00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: lives better, not just on the football field, but outside

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Speaker 1: of it. So I applaud you for your effort to

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Speaker 1: do that, and I'm you're one of the guys that

695
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: should be in coaching. I'm glad you are well. Well.

696
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate and just know I'm a fan. I'm a

697
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: fan from Afar. I watched every any chance I see you,

698
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: whether it's on TV or just any media aspect of it,

699
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: I follow you because I have the utmost respect for you.

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Speaker 1: So keep doing what you're doing because you inspire a

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00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: lot of people. All Right, good, good luck down there

702
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: in Cajing Country. Jeff, thanks for the time. We appreciate it.

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00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: All right, thank you. All right. That's Jeff Burr's coaching

704
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: down there at Louisiana Tech. The latest answer in Tasker's teammate. Yeah,

705
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: I had you. I had just battling through there. You

706
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: knew I couldn't give you a notre dame. No, you

707
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: would have guy an instant if you give me first round.

708
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: I should know that. Well, yeah, I thought, and I thought,

709
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: because I gave you that that I would I was

710
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: being fair maybe I wasn't, but it's like, I can't

711
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: give him Notre Dame and first round he'll nail that. Yeah,

712
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: you know exactly. And then you just started. I think

713
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: you were just on a different path, like you know

714
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: when your brain just goes on a different pain. And

715
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: here's what happens. You get down that he's born in

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00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: South Carolina and he's from a huge, a big program.

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00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, it's gotta be an SEC school, pretty

718
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: sausse They played Florida State and all I'd be down

719
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: there in the A sec SEC And so that's what

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00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: kind of threw you. Notre Dame. Yeah, was off my radar,

721
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: way off my radar, and I was running No, I

722
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: didn't realize Lou Holtz put together that class. I was

723
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: running down the names and that holy cow, they had

724
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: twenty one guys in that recruiting class. Fourteen played in

725
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: the NFL fourteen. That's insane. Yes, we're gonna recruit twenty

726
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: one guys. We hope you'll like him. Two thirds of

727
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: them are gonna play in the pros. What ye like? Wow?

728
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: First round wounders all that just wow. So that was

729
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 1: a fun one. And uh, and I'm glad he's coaching too.

730
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: He did the radio broadcast with us for a couple

731
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: of years, and you know, he was thinking about doing

732
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: some other things, and it seems like he's found his

733
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Speaker 1: place now post playing career. So good on him. Jeff Burrist,

734
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Speaker 1: the latest Tasker's teammate, brought to you by Wakeman's Meals

735
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: to Go break time for us. But when we come

736
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: back more JJ Watt talk. When we return here on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

739
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: with you on this What of a Friday? What is

740
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: going on with J. J. Watt? Well, he's been released.

741
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: He is free to sign with any NFL club that

742
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: wants him. And we're asking you on the Twitter poll today,

743
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: should the Bills pursue J. J. Watt? And if so,

744
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: it what costs? So let us know. Also, the obi

745
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: L Fan Friday mail bag is open. But we go

746
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: to the phones and Judy and Buffalo is waiting there

747
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: for us. Judy, what do you have for us? You're

748
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. Hello Judy, Yes, Hello, go aheads.

749
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: You're on What do you got for us. Well, uh,

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00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, ESPN has predicted Miami to win the division,

751
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: and I think that they're saying what I'm saying that

752
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: all they lack is a franchise quarterback, and Miami has

753
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: nothing to lose by picking up the Shawn Watson. This

754
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: is our worst nightmare, right, and they do have the

755
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: draft capital to offer Houston to make it happen. The

756
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: quest the question, I mean, they have nothing to lose, Well,

757
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: they have draft picks to lose and probably two also,

758
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: but I would part with those things to get to

759
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. So it's going to be interesting to see

760
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: if and when Miami decides it's worth pulling the trigger. Now,

761
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: Houston's been adamant in saying he is not going to

762
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: be traded. We want to keep him here. But how

763
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: long that last remains to be seen. I should also

764
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: tell you, Judy, and maybe this makes you feel a

765
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: little bit better. Jeremy Fowler from ESPN was reporting this

766
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: morning that the teams two of the teams at the

767
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: top of Deshaun Watson's list are Denver, all right, so

768
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: that's one team that's on his list, and now I'm

769
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Speaker 1: forgetting the San Francisco San Francisco. Thank you, Steve. Denver

770
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: and San Francisco are the top two teams on his

771
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: list right now, for whatever that's worth. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: not Lockstock and Barrel going to be the Dolphins. And

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Speaker 1: we thank you for the call, Judy, But I will

774
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Speaker 1: say this, Judy, it's a good call. You're right. Yeah,

775
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: we don't want him in the AFC East. The guy's

776
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: great player. He's a great player, and the Dolphins are

777
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: poised with the capitol to go out and get him.

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00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're cuckoo not to go

779
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: out and get it. Yeah, that guy is worth whatever

780
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: you can get him for, and I think it's I'm

781
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: buoyed by the fact that he does want to go

782
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: to Denver's got a ton of offensive weapons just waiting

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00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: for the right guy to pull the trigger. And San

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00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: Francisco's shopping their guy around. And they've got a super

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00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber roster that was riddled by injuries, so with

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00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: a dominant running game that will support him. Yeah. So

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00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: those are two places Dashaun feels like he could be

788
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: plugged into and go right to and compete for the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, if not win it. So that's and those

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00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: and those are better spots in that regard than Miami.

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00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: Is Ye have Watson and Mahomes beat up on each

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00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: other twice a year every years. That's great for Buffalo,

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00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't mind him seeing him in San Francisco.

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00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: Obviously put him in the NFC. You don't see him

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Speaker 1: for eight right, you can he can fight with Matthew Stafford,

796
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray for ten years. That's awesome.

797
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Judy, that would be a nightmare

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Speaker 1: for Bills fans to see a team like Miami come

799
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Speaker 1: up with a franchise quarterback finger quote so easily. That

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Speaker 1: would stink. Right, he comes into the division and the

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00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: whole landscape changes. Now we should say I should also

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00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: mention this. Jeremy Fowler from ESPN the NFL reporter also

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Speaker 1: said he asked his source about the Jets being being

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00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: a possible destination in terms of Watson's list. Because Watson

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00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: does have a no trade clause, he can control this

806
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: scenario to some degree, and they he Fowler asked the

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00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: source of his hey, do you think he'd be interested

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00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: in going to the Jets? And the answer from that

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00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: from the source was probably not. So it doesn't look

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00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: like the Jets are a concern, but I think Miami

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Speaker 1: is still a possibility. You just got to hope that

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00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: Denver and or San Francisco steps into the mix more

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00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: fervently to get the deal done. And the good thing

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Speaker 1: here is San Francisco could offer jim Garoppolo in return.

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Speaker 1: And let's not forget this. Nick Cassario, the GM of

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00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, was in New England when Jimmy Garoppolo

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00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: was drafted by the Patriots. Maybe he still has an

818
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: affinity for him and his game. San Francisco only incurs

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00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: a two and a half million dollars cap hit if

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Speaker 1: they move on from him, and so they could offer

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00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: him in a trade back to Houston, and Cassario likes him.

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00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: Maybe something could be a foot Deshaun and they could

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00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: also assume then Deshaun Watson's contract. It's kind of a

824
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: trade and it cost him a little bit, but not

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00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: It wouldn't cost him thirty five million. It would cost

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Speaker 1: him like maybe ten. So that's a doable scenario. All

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Speaker 1: of those things are beside the point that right now

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Speaker 1: Cal McNair and Nick Cassario and all of those guys

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Speaker 1: in the Houston front office are saying we're not trading

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00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson period, end of story. Well, okay, we'll see,

831
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: and it's all about Deshaun Watson and his resolve about

832
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: not playing for them. That's everybody. All of us can

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00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: speculate all we want until one of those sides gives

834
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: there's nothing to talk about. Yeah, it's a staring contest

835
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: right now for them, but it is not for JJ Watt,

836
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Speaker 1: and we'll be discussing that for the better part of

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Speaker 1: the rest of the show. We will be taking a

838
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: break here, but when we return from CBS Sports, it

839
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: is one Chris Trapasso schedule to join us. We'll talk

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00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: to him about this JJ Watt scenario and what landing

841
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: spots might make the most sense for him, and we'll

842
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: also get into some of what he's covered on the

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Speaker 1: Bills NFL offseason and what it could look like for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up next here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello Bills

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Speaker 1: Radio Network, Sports Date your sports update from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt been one of the faces of the Texans

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Speaker 1: since he was drafted in two eleven, He'll be playing

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Speaker 1: for a different team in twenty twenty one. A lot

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Speaker 1: of asked for and was granted his release from the franchise,

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Speaker 1: the three time defensive Player of the Year said in

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Speaker 1: the video posted to social media Friday morning. The release

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Speaker 1: was inevitable as he carried a seventeen and a half

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Speaker 1: million dollar camp figure for this coming season. Watt leaves

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Speaker 1: the Texans after one hundred and twenty eight starts, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and one sacks, one hundred and seventy two tackles

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Speaker 1: for loss, twenty five fors fumbles, and a pair of

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Speaker 1: pick sixes. They entered the world together, They're leaving the

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Speaker 1: football world together as well. Longtime NFL centers More Keys

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Speaker 1: and Mike Pouncey, twin brothers, retiring from the NFL. More

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Speaker 1: Keys was a former first round pick of the Steelers

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Speaker 1: in twenty ten, three time first team All Pro and

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Speaker 1: nine time Pro Bowler. Dolphins made Mike Pouncey a first

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Speaker 1: round pick in twenty eleven. He spent seven years in Miami,

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Speaker 1: three with the Chargers, making it to the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: four times. Trevor Lawrence got one last chance to throw

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Speaker 1: for NFL teams before the draft, as he held his

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Speaker 1: pro day at Clemson on Friday Day. Lawrence is the

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Speaker 1: presumptive number one pick, and instead of going through the motions,

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Speaker 1: he decided to throw in front of seventeen NFL teams

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Speaker 1: in attendance. Former NFL quarterback and Lawrence's quarterback tutor Jordan

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Speaker 1: Palmer gave an explanation of the decision, saying, quote the

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Speaker 1: reason he wants to throw is he loves ball and

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Speaker 1: he has nothing to hide. End quote. His early pro

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Speaker 1: day was due to the fact that he's going to

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Speaker 1: have surgery on his non throwing shoulder for a torn

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Speaker 1: laboram before the draft, so he's ready to play in

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Speaker 1: time for the twenty twenty one season. Buccaneers head coach

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arian said Tom Brady needs minor surgery on his

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Speaker 1: left knee, although Ben Voland of The Boston Globe reports

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Speaker 1: the procedure is quote more than just a little cleanup.

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Speaker 1: Brady wore a brace on his left knee during Thursday's

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Speaker 1: boat parade for the Super Bowl title. Throughout the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty season, Brady was never listed on an injury report

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Speaker 1: as having a problem, and the Buffalo biasen Sena an

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Speaker 1: ounce they have accepted Major League Baseball's invitation to be

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Speaker 1: a member of its all new Professional Development League system

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Speaker 1: by signing a ten year player development license agreement. They

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Speaker 1: will continue to be the Triple A affiliate of the

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Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. That is your sports update. Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you for hour number two of a

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Speaker 1: Friday edition of One Bills Live and joining us on

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Speaker 1: the line right now, NFL analyst and draft analyst for

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports, also the host of the Prospect Podcast. It

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Speaker 1: is one Chris Trepasso joining us here on the show. Chris,

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Speaker 1: how you doing. It's Chris and Steve. What's shaken man? Doing?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? Guys, Thanks for having me. Yeah, good to

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Speaker 1: have you aboard. And you know, I know you always

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Speaker 1: kind of look at the draft, probably earlier than anybody,

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Speaker 1: as soon as the football sees the regular season comes

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Speaker 1: to an and well, heck, maybe you're even mining it

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Speaker 1: before then, and we're trying to get an early look

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Speaker 1: at that among other things with respect to the Bills

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Speaker 1: off season. But I wanted to start draft with you

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Speaker 1: just in terms of trying to get a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the lay of the land, you know, we get

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Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl Lake because the Bills were still

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Speaker 1: playing playoff football. There's no combine, so Steve and I

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Speaker 1: are going to be behind here. We're playing catchup already.

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Speaker 1: Is there an early consensus on positions that are strong.

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Speaker 1: We've heard wide receiver is strong again this year. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know if you had any early insight on what

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Speaker 1: positions are extraordinarily deep and where it might be thin

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Speaker 1: this year. Well, you were talking about Trevor Lawrence in

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Speaker 1: the update. I think it's a good quarterback class again

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Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, and Justin Fields, along with

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones who led Alabama to that national title. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a good quarterback class. But I agree with

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Speaker 1: you it's another loaded wide receiver class. I like the

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Speaker 1: group of edge rushers that will probably be on the

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Speaker 1: board from like the middle of the first round to

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Speaker 1: the start of the third round. It's very deep in

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Speaker 1: that range, and I think for the Bills it bodes

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Speaker 1: well that it's a good off ball linebacker class. It

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Speaker 1: hadn't been the past couple of drafts, but there's four

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Speaker 1: or five guys that I think fit the mold of

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Speaker 1: the speed, the athleticism and the coverage ability that you

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Speaker 1: need to have to be a good linebacker in the

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Speaker 1: NFL today? Is there going to be a big discrepancy

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Speaker 1: because there's no kind of uniform, no uniform evaluation process

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Speaker 1: or back kind of the old days. There's no combine,

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Speaker 1: none of that stuff. These teams are kind of on

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Speaker 1: their own and they don't get to compare notes, they

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Speaker 1: don't get to see the same workout that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Is there going to be a huge discrepancy as to

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Speaker 1: which teams evaluate these players and what each team thinks

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Speaker 1: about them or is it going to be widened out

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Speaker 1: more so than it normally is? Yeah? I think so

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the expectation without the normal or the

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Speaker 1: classics setting with the workouts in Indianapolis at the scouting

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Speaker 1: combine that a lot of these teams are going to

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Speaker 1: be sending scouts to all the schools pro days and

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Speaker 1: they're all going to get different times on their stop

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Speaker 1: watches for forty r dashes, for the three cone drill,

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Speaker 1: the short shuttle. So I think more so than we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen, we've had an unprecedented last year. I think

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Speaker 1: this will be an unprecedented pre draft process, and then

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Speaker 1: overdraft weekend that some teams will have a fourth round

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Speaker 1: grade on a player that will ultimately go in the

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Speaker 1: first round. So yes, I do think there will be

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Speaker 1: a lot more discrepancy between the evaluations of certain aspects

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Speaker 1: among different teams. I know you recently put a piece

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Speaker 1: together about, you know, Buffalo's offseason blueprint so they can

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Speaker 1: take the next step coming up here in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you just kind of lay out some of

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Speaker 1: the groundwork you did there in terms of what you

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Speaker 1: think is best for Buffalo going forward. Well, for as

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Speaker 1: good as I think of a wide receiver John Brown is,

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's on the wrong side

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Speaker 1: of thirty coming off kind of an injury riddled season

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and the fact that the Bills can

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Speaker 1: save close to nine million dollars if they release him,

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Speaker 1: he would probably be one of the biggest players that

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Speaker 1: they would actually have to cut in this blueprint. I

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Speaker 1: think the free agent wide receiver pool is also very good.

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Speaker 1: And the guy that I've kind of zeroed in on

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Speaker 1: that seems like a quintessential Brandon Bean signing is Jaguar's

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Keeling Cole that he's kind of flying under

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Speaker 1: the radar. It's a great class at that position. He's

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Speaker 1: twenty eight years old, but he's coming off a career

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Speaker 1: high and catches with fifty five and touchdowns with He

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Speaker 1: just seems kind of like that John Brown or Cole

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Speaker 1: Beasley signing him a few years ago. That doesn't really

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Speaker 1: send shockways through the NFL when it happens, but would

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Speaker 1: ultimately be a player who improves once he gets to Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: In this offense with Brian Dable and Josh Allen, I

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Speaker 1: think a few former Carolina Panthers could still make their

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Speaker 1: way to Buffalo. Offensive Guard try Turner, who's been with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers over the past few years, hasn't played as well,

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Speaker 1: but I think he would be great in terms of

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Speaker 1: depth on the interior of Buffalo's offensive line. And then

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Speaker 1: Kan Short, who the last two years is dealt with

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Speaker 1: the shoulder injury we haven't really seen a lot of him,

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Speaker 1: will also be another cheap option can really rush the passer.

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Speaker 1: I think that would make a lot of sense for

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Speaker 1: cheaper options for Buffalo, and then still signing a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver to kind of replace John Brown so you don't

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Speaker 1: have to force the issue at wide receiver in the

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Speaker 1: draft and picking thirty overall, the Bills might not have

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Speaker 1: the ability to get that premier talent to be the

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Speaker 1: number two or number three to Stefan Diggs and Cole

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Speaker 1: Beasley and on the free agent market. In terms of resigning,

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Speaker 1: For as much as I think Matt Milano is the

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Speaker 1: modern day linebacker that can cover and blitz remarkably, I

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Speaker 1: think if you're waiting paying him or right tackle Darryl Williams,

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Speaker 1: I think because Darryl Williams protects Josh Allen's blindside, you

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Speaker 1: have to go in that direction if you don't have

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Speaker 1: all the money to pay both of those players. So

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Speaker 1: in my blueprint, I had them resigning Darryl Williams. He

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Speaker 1: was fantastic, especially in that game and that win over

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers against t J. Watt, who had a

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Speaker 1: fantastic season. So bring it in a receiver, some cheaper

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Speaker 1: options up front, and I think resigning Darryl Williams is

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Speaker 1: probably the most paramount thing for Buffalo to do in

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Speaker 1: terms of keeping their own in Buffalo. What do you

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna look like when free agency does hit

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Speaker 1: with you know, with ten or twelve teams completely over

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Speaker 1: the cap and a bunch of teams with a lot

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Speaker 1: of money to spend. Is the market going to be flooded?

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be a buyer's market? As Brownie

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Speaker 1: has mentioned a couple of times, we think, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some really good football players out there

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Speaker 1: because of the shrunken cap. And I think this free

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Speaker 1: agency period is going to be one like we have

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Speaker 1: never seen before. Yeah, that's a good question too, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of listeners need to pay attention

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Speaker 1: to a lot of those of veterans like we saw

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt today that in a normal year would probably

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Speaker 1: be retained by their team. But with half the league

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Speaker 1: set to be over the sailory cap, You're right, there

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Speaker 1: are going to be an abundance of really good players

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Speaker 1: that teams probably wish they could hold onto but just

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Speaker 1: can't financially. So beyond the draft, beyond free agency, those

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Speaker 1: cap casualties I think are going to be very valuable.

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Speaker 1: And I think someone like Matt Milano, Yes, maybe he

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Speaker 1: signs a big deal to a team like the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: or the Patriots that have some money, but don't be

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Speaker 1: surprised if a lot of these quote un quote big

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Speaker 1: name free agents hit the free agent market and don't

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Speaker 1: like what they see because there's just not as much

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Speaker 1: money available. I think that's the best case scenario for

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Speaker 1: the Bills to retain Milano. He hits the free agent market,

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Speaker 1: doesn't see that fourteen or fifteen million dollars per season

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Speaker 1: deal because only half the league really has money to

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Speaker 1: spend this year, and that could really increase the chances

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Speaker 1: of him coming back to the Bills, maybe just on

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Speaker 1: a prove it deal. In twenty twenty one, talking to

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Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso, NFL and draft analyst for CBA Sports, And

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Speaker 1: you know, Chris, I know you already got the mock

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Speaker 1: drafts rolling out. I mean, these things seem to start

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Speaker 1: earlier and earlier. Man, I can't I can't wrap my

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Speaker 1: head around it. Um. I understand why they're out there,

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Speaker 1: people love them, but you've got I think in your

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Speaker 1: first one you had etten right for thirtieth overall for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. And I know down there, you know late

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Speaker 1: in the first round anything is fair game. There's no

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Speaker 1: dues or don't see thirtieth overall. So why were you

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Speaker 1: why were you drawn to him? His speed, and I

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Speaker 1: think when you look at Devin Singletary and Zach Moss,

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Speaker 1: if you look at how good they are forcing miss

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Speaker 1: tackles with their contact balance, that they can absorb hits

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Speaker 1: from linebackers and safeties and continue forward. They've been very

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Speaker 1: good in those phases of the game, which are critical

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Speaker 1: to playing running back today. And they're both good receivers,

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Speaker 1: but they lack that game breaking speed. And we saw

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Speaker 1: Travis Etn in his four years at Clemson hit home

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Speaker 1: run after home run after home run. And I think

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, Sean McDermott, Brian Dable, the whole offense. Everyone

1059
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: in Buffalo wants to be able to see a well

1060
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: blocked run play to the outside, not just go for

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty yards, but maybe go for a sixty

1062
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: or seventy yard touchdown. The same is true in the

1063
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: screen game. Etn is very reliable, not only just catching

1064
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: the football in the flat, but you can line him

1065
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: up as a slot receiver. And for as much as

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01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: I do think the Bills want to restructure their defense

1067
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, especially with how the season ended, you

1068
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: could certainly turn that around and say they need to

1069
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: score more points when they're facing the Kansas City Chiefs

1070
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: in the future, and I think ETN would add another

1071
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: dynamic to what was one of the best offenses in

1072
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: the NFL this year. One of the things that always

1073
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: happens in regular off seasons I think will probably still

1074
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: happen in this one. We had the Senior Bowl already,

1075
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: You've got guys who who are gonna have pro days

1076
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: instead of the combine. But there's always a couple of

1077
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: guys prospects who jump who like, well, who's this guy? Well,

1078
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's a first round He goes

1079
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: from who is this guy? To a top half of

1080
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: the first round or bottom half of the first round

1081
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere. Are there guys like that on

1082
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: your radar yet? Who maybe at the Senior Bowl already

1083
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: have said, hey, Wow, this guy's pretty good. Who can

1084
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: we look for like at some of the you know,

1085
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: maybe more of the premier positions. Yeah, And I think

1086
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: this kind of ties into what the Bills might do

1087
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: at number thirty overall, if they want to address that

1088
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: number two cornerback spot, they can stay kind of local

1089
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: that a fay two. Melafon Wu from Syracuse had a

1090
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: great week down in Mobile at the Senior Bowl. He's

1091
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: tall six foot two sixty three, around two hundred pounds

1092
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: of very long arms. I think the Bills do like

1093
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: to have that length on the outside opposite Trey White.

1094
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Levi Wallace is one of the longer corners

1095
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: in the league. And he was so good at the

1096
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl because despite his size and most taller corners

1097
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: are a little bit stiff, they can't stay with quick,

1098
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: wide receivers. He showed during the week of practices and

1099
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: one on ones and then during the game that he

1100
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: has enough athleticism to stay with those guys who can

1101
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: separate or can beat press coverage at the line. He's

1102
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: someone that after the Syracuse Pro Day, it wouldn't shock

1103
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: me if he jumps forty inches and runs in the

1104
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: four fours with that length and the production that he

1105
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: had at Syracuse, if he could sneak into those last

1106
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: few picks in the first round, and Lake Brownie said,

1107
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: there's always three or four picks late in round one

1108
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: that are kind of off the radar, and they're usually

1109
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: because a player or aspect tests really well either at

1110
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: the Combine or in this year's case, at his school's

1111
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: pro day. I know you kind of do a redraft

1112
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: and a look back at, you know, the draft that

1113
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: was about a year later. We're around that time right now.

1114
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: So as you look back at the Bills twenty twenty

1115
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: draft class, you could at least make the argument that

1116
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: the back half of it made more contributions than the

1117
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: front half if you weigh Bass and Davis against Moss

1118
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: and Epinessa. But as a total group, what's your assessment.

1119
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: I know some people have kind of redraft evaluated by

1120
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: division and have done it that way. There's one hundred

1121
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: ways to slice a cap. But let's just look at

1122
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: the Bills specifically, just you your look back one year later. Yeah,

1123
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: I think it was still one of the better classes

1124
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm not going to say it was

1125
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: an a plus, but the fact that aj Epinessa came

1126
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: on strong and was a bigger part of the rotation

1127
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: later in the season and in the playoffs, I think

1128
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: was good. Like I said, Zeke Motts had a very

1129
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: efficient season. You had Tyler Bass, who was fantastic all year,

1130
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: even a seventh round pick, a cornerback out of Pittsburgh

1131
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: to get production out of him in those situations where

1132
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: you had some injuries. That's all the teams ask for

1133
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: in most cases out of a seventh round pick. So

1134
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to call it a home run draft,

1135
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: but the fact that the Bills weren't picking until the

1136
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: middle of the second round, I think Brandon Bean and

1137
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: company did a good job adding players that made some

1138
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: impact in year one, but also project forward that Zech

1139
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: Moss is still going to be a part of the

1140
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: rotation in the backfield, and I think Epanessa, as he's

1141
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: able to add a little bit more strength this offseason,

1142
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: we'll start to see that dominant player that he was

1143
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: at Iowa as a prospect. Yeah, if the Bills can

1144
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: hold it together, refill some holes in their roster, and

1145
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: maintain their production, you know, they still have to be

1146
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: well for most of us, certainly they feel like they've

1147
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: got to have a good shot of winning the division again.

1148
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: But a lot of people think Miami is really going

1149
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: to take a step forward this year. How do you

1150
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: see this division in the NFL working out this a

1151
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: season depending on what happens in Miami. Well, just looking

1152
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: at all the rosters, I still think the Bills are

1153
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: firing away the cream of the crop in the AFC East.

1154
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: The Dolphins certainly overachieved in twenty twenty. They played fantastically

1155
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: for their head coach Brian Flores. They led the league

1156
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 1: in turnovers they had. They were the third best team

1157
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: in turnover differential, So year over year, you're gonna expect

1158
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: those things to regress a little bit in terms of takeaways.

1159
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: But they do have a good secondary. It's an aggressive

1160
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: man coverage scheme. It really comes down to the quarterback

1161
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: and how much they can narrow that gap with the Bills.

1162
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: If they trade for Deshaun Watson, that will eat into

1163
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: their draft capital, but they would certainly upgrade that spot

1164
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: quite a bit. I still think they have some pretty

1165
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: big needs on the offensive line, and the receiver corps

1166
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: is good. I don't think it's as good as the

1167
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: Bill So I think it's the Bills a pretty big

1168
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: gap the Dolphins and then the Patriots and the Jets

1169
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: are still at the bottom of the division. Right. One

1170
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: thing we've been tossing around last one for me, Chris,

1171
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: it was it's been stated that there's gonna be a

1172
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: ton of quarterback movement like there was last year. It

1173
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: were for decades of most of my life. You couldn't

1174
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: get a quarterback on the open market in the NFL.

1175
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: Now you've got like a handful and plus a couple

1176
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: maybe the Hall of Famers that are gonna be available

1177
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,959
Speaker 1: every offseason. How do you think this offseason's gonna shake

1178
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: out with all the quarterbacks? How many teams are going

1179
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: to be, you know, looking at a new guy, What's

1180
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna happen with just Shaun Watson, With Jimmy Garoppolo, I mean,

1181
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: the list goes on and it's really unprecedented. How do

1182
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: you think this is gonna shake out? And will it

1183
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: be a seismic shift maybe in the NFL this season

1184
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: that we don't know about yet. Yeah, I think this

1185
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: will kind of be the watershed moment this entire offseason

1186
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: of how teams evaluate the quarterback position, especially when there's

1187
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: such a big disparity between having a quarterback, even a

1188
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: first round quarterback on that cheap rookie deal and paying

1189
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: someone like Jimmy Garoppolo thirty or forty million dollars per

1190
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: season that if a few years into that expense of contract,

1191
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: if you have a Jimmy Garoppolo and he's not producing,

1192
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: that it doesn't make any sense to completely cut him

1193
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: and you need to try to get some compensation from him.

1194
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: So I think with Jimmy Garoppolo, with Deshaun Watson, Samdarnold,

1195
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, we could see six to eight, maybe close

1196
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: to ten teams with a new quarterback that's a veteran.

1197
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston is on the undrafted free agent market as well,

1198
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: so I think we'll start to see teams not just

1199
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: be complacent with going six and ten with a quarterback

1200
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: that has some limitations or hasn't lived up to the hype.

1201
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: They'll either go to the draft and say let's roll

1202
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: the dice there, or they'll say, hey, look, we're kind

1203
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: of a middle of the tier team, why don't we

1204
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: try to sign someone as a reclamation project like the

1205
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: Titans did with Ryan Tannehill. What's good for the Bills

1206
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: is that they're really only one of about four or

1207
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: five teams that does not have their quarterback in some

1208
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: type of speculation about his future heading into the twenty

1209
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: twenty one season. All right, Chris, thanks very much for

1210
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: the time. Why don't you just tell us real quick?

1211
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: Got on the horizon here for CBS Sports coming up

1212
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: for people to check out a lot of NFL Draft rankings.

1213
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna thanking them out and a lot of mock drafts,

1214
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: so you can certainly be on the lookout for those

1215
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: every Wednesday. All right, sounds good. Thanks for the time.

1216
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: Appreciating with the what's happening with the Prospect podcast? Anything

1217
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, that's every Tuesday and Thursday. I have

1218
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: Matthew Koller, former Western New York or former WGR employee

1219
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: who's now out in Minneapolis. We just sit down and

1220
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: talk every Monday night and Wednesday night to go live

1221
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning and Thursday morning. We'll kind of help

1222
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: you navigate all these crazy pre draft waters that will

1223
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: certainly be a lot of fun over the next couple

1224
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: of months. All right, Thanks Chris, appreciate the time, Chris.

1225
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:47,919
Speaker 1: Thanks Chris Trapasso from CBS Sports is NFL and draft analyst.

1226
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: So as we get our ear to the ground, we're

1227
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: gonna be playing a little catch up here on the

1228
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: prospects ourselves. You know, this long playoff run kind of

1229
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: keeps you from you know, you got Bills myopia for

1230
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: most of jam Nuary, the Senior Bowls already in the

1231
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: rearview mirror. There's gonna be no combine. We got some

1232
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 1: work to do, man, we got some work to do.

1233
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: You do, Yeah, you're gonna you gonna take my cliff notes.

1234
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: It's the under It's the underwear Olympics. I don't you know,

1235
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't care how fast the guy runs for you,

1236
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: how fast you play football? You know, well, right, yeah,

1237
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: but we got you know, you got tape to watch

1238
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Plus we got to do that.

1239
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: It's really weird, the kind of cool that the Bills

1240
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: are drafting thirtieth and you know, by the way, the

1241
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: two teams that are in the Super Bowl draft thirty one,

1242
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: thirty two. Right, I just um, I think all bets

1243
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: are off for what could happen at thirty because there's

1244
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: no there's no rhyme or reason for what you can

1245
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: take there. You can do anything you want at pick thirty.

1246
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: You know, top ten picks. You're not taking a safety

1247
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: usually you know what I mean. You're not taking a

1248
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: tight end. You're taking a difference a special guy. You're

1249
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: taking a difference man at a high perceive, usually at

1250
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: an important position, you know, defensive end, corner, quarterback. You

1251
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: know that's it. Yeah, that's it. Down at thirty, it's

1252
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: all fair game, and I think that's what makes the

1253
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: Bills pick compelling. All Right, we've seen this. Brandon Bean

1254
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: has been more active in the first two rounds of

1255
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: the draft than any other gym in the league. The

1256
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: last time. He always goes up, and he always bounces up.

1257
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: He rarely trades down. What do you think he could

1258
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: jump up into the low to mid twenties. I think

1259
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: he likes something. He will. I think if there's something

1260
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: that he believes, if he sees some prospect that in

1261
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: his estimation is slipping out of the range where they

1262
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 1: had him, I could see him going up. So if

1263
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: you could find it. Because you have to also think,

1264
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: Steve about where this roster is. Right. This is not

1265
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: a roster where if you draft eight guys, all eight

1266
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: or making the team. So why hold on to all

1267
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: eight picks? Right? You know what I mean? I've said

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01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: it a lot over the years that you know some Unfortunately,

1269
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 1: when when the Bills were it's you know, the early nineties,

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01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty nine, nine, ninety two, even ninety three,

1271
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,879
Speaker 1: they draft these guys. Man, they were really good football

1272
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: players and they had a heart. They couldn't make the team.

1273
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: The club was going on, We gosh, he's a good player.

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do. He can't beat out James Loft

1275
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: and Andre Reid? Right, Well, by the way, what are

1276
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Is he gonna take the field for Thurman?

1277
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta get what you know. I mean,

1278
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: the only guy that could really that came in and

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: really made it with Phil Hanson, right, I mean Phil

1280
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: came in and kind of made a spot for himself

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01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: opposite Bruce. But there was Henry Jones. Henry was a Yeah,

1282
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: Henry Jones the perfect spot. You know, Fena could come in.

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: Those are all first round picks and second round picks,

1284
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: right and if their sixth round pick kind of waited

1285
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: his turn too, yeah, you know, And so it was.

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: It's a hard roster to make, There's no question about it. Now,

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01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: if you're at the right position, you know, maybe you

1288
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: got a chance to come in and actually not when

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01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: we make the team, but maybe even contribute, like in

1290
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: an offensive line, interior offensive line if they if what,

1291
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: like Chris Troposso said, he's it's an interesting point made

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: by him. He feels Darryl Williams is more important than

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: any and I'm kind of with him, it's easy to

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01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: here's the reason why. It's harder to find a really

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01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: good right tackle than it is to find an athletic linebacker.

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01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: There are athletic linebackers. I hate to say it, and

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01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: this is no knock on Matt Milano because I love

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: him as a player. It's a lot easier to find

1299
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: a six two, two hundred and twenty five pound guy

1300
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: that can run than it is to find a six

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01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: foot five, three hundred and twenty five pound guy that

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: can pass block and run block on great feet. Yeah,

1303
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 1: you're right, those guys are. They're harder to find. They're

1304
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: harder to find. So you pay that guy and you

1305
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: may have to part with that money. Yeah, and you

1306
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: look for another one. Yeah, that's and it makes a

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01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: lot of sense. And even so, a right tackles harder

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01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: to find than a guard, even yes, you know, a

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: swing guard on offense, he is priority number one. I

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01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,879
Speaker 1: hadn't thought about it like that because I always like Milano.

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01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: I mean, because I like him too. Written, But Daryl

1312
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: Willis might be able to get both of them back,

1313
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: because I don't think Feliciano is going to be pulling

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01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: down a gigantic salary. Maybe I don't know, but I'm

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: kind of with you. I hadn't thought about it like that,

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01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: and it seems obvious now that I do. Yeah, Daryl

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01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: Williams may be a much higher priority than anybody else

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: on the offensive. And Mike Janinny, who we had on

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01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: in the middle of the week here on One Bill's Live,

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: basically said around ten million a year gets it done

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01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 1: to get Darryl Williams back in here. I don't know

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01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: if which seems steep. I'm saying this, Yeah, that may

1323
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: be even a little too steep in this market. You

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: might be able to get him for less than that. Well,

1325
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: depending on the structure of the contract. Yeah, yeah, you

1326
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: could get him for three years for twenty five million.

1327
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, And there's familiarity here.

1328
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: He's known and being in McDermott for several years. That's

1329
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: part of the reason he signed here in the first place.

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01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: They gave him an opportunity to kind of reclaim his

1331
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: status as a capable offensive line. I mean, this guy

1332
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: is three years removed from being a second team All Pro.

1333
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a good player and then he

1334
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: had a horrible knee injury, pretty much lost an entire season,

1335
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: and then spend the next year kind of getting his

1336
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: feet back under him, and then the Bills were the

1337
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 1: beneficiaries of seeing him now two years removed from the

1338
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: bad knee injury, and you know he's back, He's back

1339
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: on the free agent mark. He's gonna make some money. Yeah, yeah,

1340
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: and that's yeah, that's uh. I hadn't thought about that,

1341
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: but it seems obvious now that he mentioned it. And

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm kind of in that camp right now because I'm

1343
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: still telling you I'm not wavering from big guys up

1344
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: front on both sides. Big man's game. Steve, you know

1345
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: the deal, yes, and I'm glad it was you and

1346
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 1: not be a heck of a way to make a living. Well,

1347
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: you did a good job of it. So there it

1348
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 1: is break time for us. But when we come back,

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01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: we got to get back into this discussion about j J. Watt.

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01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: We'll take your comments on the tweet sheet and your

1351
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: phone calls at eight oh three oh five fifty. Should

1352
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: the Bills pursue JJ Watt and if so, at what cost?

1353
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Back on one Bill's

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 1: Live in a Flash, This is Falo Bills Radio to

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01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: back No. One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve tasting with

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: you here on a Friday, about a half hour away

1357
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: from talking to Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee Tom Flores,

1358
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 1: who will join us in the third hour of the program.

1359
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: But right now, we're going to get to your thoughts

1360
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: about whether the Bills should pursue JJ Watt, who was

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01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: just released by the Texans today, and if so, at

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: what cost? And the tweet sheet is always brought to

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01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

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01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. And we lead off with, well,

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01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: let's go to Chief Facer, who, with respect to JJ Watts, says,

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: heck yeah, immediate impact player on defense. And I think

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: that would be the general assumption. And you know, Steve,

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01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: I think I think the benefit here, even at age

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01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 1: thirty two, what's a guy you can move up and

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01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: down the line like you put him on end, maybe

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01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: on rundowns, hold set the edge. We know we can

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Speaker 1: do that. And I think he's going to be helped

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01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 1: by playing in a four three defense. I mean, this

1374
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: guy's played into three four pretty much his entire career

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01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: down there in Houston, I think in a four to

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01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: three he could be even more valuable because now you

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01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: can kick him inside on some passing downs if you

1378
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: want to put more speed out on the edge, and

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: he can cause all kinds of problems, well, football will

1380
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: on the field. If he's on the field healthy, there

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01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: is no downside. There absolutely is no downside. The guy's

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01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: got a lot of good football left in him. He

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01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: just you know, he's been injury prone. So if he's healthy,

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01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: in one hundred percent, he is. He is a guy

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: that you got to have on the field and if

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01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: you can, if the money is right and he's healthy,

1387
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 1: you cannot keep yourself from being a better football team

1388
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: with that guy on your roster. Period. That's the upside.

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01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: No question. Now, can he stay healthy enough to help

1390
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: you and how much does he cost, and what's it

1391
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: cost to get him? You know, who do you have

1392
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: to release? You know the caps hit and all that.

1393
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 1: If he can stay healthy and you can get him

1394
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: for the right price, there's absolutely no way you don't

1395
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: want him on your football team. All thirty one teams

1396
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: who are in the pool will say that, Well, d

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01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: Drews thinks differently, because d Drews says as good a

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01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: player as he was. I don't think he's worth a

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01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: ton of money being on the backside of his career.

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm in complete agreement with that. He

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01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: is certainly not the defensive player of the Year that

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01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: he was for three times in his career. He's not

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01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: that anymore. But he's still a difference maker. And I

1404
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: think if you put him on this defensive line, he's

1405
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: the most talented defensive lineman on the roster, even at

1406
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: age thirty two. Probably right, yeah, you kind of think, yeah, maybe,

1407
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: so he's he's a great player. Certainly, you're as you said,

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01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: he's not going to be defensive MVP of the year,

1409
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: the defensive Player of the Year in the NFL. But

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01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: man o, man, the guy brings it. He's got a

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01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: high motor and you'd love to see it. So that's yeah.

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01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're a better football team with

1413
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: him him on the field from bread on the tweet

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01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: sheet on a team friendly deal. Yes, more so, just

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01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: to get him for his leadership and coachability to the

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: younger edge rushers that we have. Look, I got news

1417
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: for you. I think this guy's still got a heck

1418
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: of a lot of gas in the tank. I think

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01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: you get two really good years out of him if

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01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: you want. If you want to only sign him to

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01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: a one year deal, I totally get that. Yeah, you know,

1422
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have guys like Alan and Edmonds coming

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01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: up on their second deals, as you know, former first

1424
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: round picks who are gonna presumably cost a good deal

1425
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: of money. So you know you only want to do

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01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: one year this year and then see how it goes.

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01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, But I think this guy's got

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01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: two more good years left him. And so if you

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01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 1: feel this is a guy that can get you over

1430
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: the hump, get you to the big game, you really

1431
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: got to weigh that out right in terms of what

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01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: you're adding and what you're taking off. Certainly, when you

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01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: get into these contract talks, like like you and I

1434
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: are doing, you kind of conjecture about how it could

1435
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: go really well for you, and also the backside of

1436
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: it if everything goes belly up, what have you got

1437
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: invested in the guy guaranteed? And how is it going

1438
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: to cripple you if he can't play. You got to

1439
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: take all that into consideration. And on the tweet sheet

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01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: from Boss, he says, now it's too expensive for a

1441
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: guy who has a history of missing half the games

1442
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 1: each season. That's the backside. You don't know if the

1443
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be able to He played sixteen games this

1444
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: last year. The defense was on the field a lot,

1445
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: and he only had five five, five and a half

1446
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: sacks this last year. Their defense was terrible around him.

1447
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: He didn't have any head secondary right, so ball coming

1448
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: out quick, so he was you know, he's not going

1449
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: to have that kind of year. I think he can

1450
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: still play for sure, but like I said earlier, he's

1451
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: got to stay healthy. If he stays healthy, I think

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01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 1: he's a bargain. And if you can get him to

1453
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: sign a deal with you know, with incentives laden into it,

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01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: like you know, you get him. Listen, whatever you make

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01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: this year, get seven sacks, you get this. You know,

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01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: seven sacks, you get this, ten sacks, you get this,

1457
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: ten sacks, you get an extra layer of the snaps.

1458
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: If you're if you're all pro, you get a big bonus.

1459
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: If you get the defensive player of the year, Well,

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Speaker 1: whatever we've paid you, we'll bump it to twenty million

1461
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: dollars payable after June one of twenty twenty two. Boom. Yeah.

1462
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: You know, if you can get him to sign a

1463
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: deal that doesn't hurt you this year. If he doesn't

1464
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: play well, that's huge. But if if he can get

1465
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: him to bet on himself, I think that's what you do, Tiffany.

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01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you have to seriously look at adding

1467
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 1: him from restructuring contracts or having to part with a

1468
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: good player, possibly John Brown. We have the depth of

1469
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Adding Watt would upgrade our d to a

1470
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: potentially elite level. It's a move the top franchises make.

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Speaker 1: It's time we go for it. And that's the ultimate

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01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: assessment that has to be made here, Like how big

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01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: a swing, right are we gonna take? How close do

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Speaker 1: we really think we are to the chiefs? And and

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01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: getting over the hump? And does this guy get us

1476
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: over that hump? That's right? The last part you can take,

1477
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: you can The Bills could be sitting there in their

1478
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: office saying, listen, we're this were this close. We take

1479
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: a swing, let's go. Is is JJ Watt the guy

1480
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: to be swinging, the guy to swing at? Is he

1481
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: the guy to swing at? Or is it we wait

1482
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: until von Miller gets cut l in Denver is it

1483
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: which is probably going to happen? Or is it? Or

1484
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 1: is it we're gonna use one to entice the other? Yeah, say,

1485
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: would you like to come here with Jerry Hughes, you know,

1486
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: Von Miller and JJ Watt? You know, do we use

1487
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: all three of those guys against each others? Hey, listen

1488
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: to you. Come, just come over here, and we're gonna

1489
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna turn you loose, right? Um? Is that the

1490
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: kind of swing you make? That's you got to ask

1491
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: yourself that how likely is it? And who else is

1492
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: going to be out there? Um? Is jj Watt even

1493
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: the guy that we that we most want? Or is

1494
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 1: Bond Miller that guy? Or is there is there another?

1495
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: Is there another guy on another team that we're not

1496
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: even thinking about? Where the bills are going? Man, oh man,

1497
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna release this guy and we're gonna get him.

1498
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: This is gonna be like a Mica Hide Jordan Poorer

1499
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: thing where we're gonna sign this guy and nobody's gonna

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01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 1: even be looking at him and they're just sitting there waiting.

1501
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: You know, it could be that scenario as well. So

1502
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: we'll see, and you know, you look down the roster

1503
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: at all these teams like Philadelphia, like the Saints, like

1504
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, all these teams that are like up

1505
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: to their neck in cap problems, you know, just kind

1506
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: of hovering around like vultures, and you kind of hope

1507
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: all these teams that are maybe they will jump and

1508
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: spend their money on this guy when you've got a

1509
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: better guy, to better option with a more long term

1510
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: solution out there waiting in the wings that you think

1511
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: may come available later from Jeremy. He would be a

1512
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 1: fine a fine edition. But with the cap situation, I

1513
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: just don't see it happening. We need to address other issues,

1514
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: is before signing a top dollar guy that may only

1515
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: see twelve games on the field, and that's what you

1516
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 1: got a way out. Yeah, you know, we make this investment.

1517
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: It could put us here, but what's the what's the

1518
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: potential return on investment? And you know, I'm sure they're

1519
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: running analytics on thirty two year old pass rushers to

1520
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: see how many guys did it successfully, how many games

1521
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: they played on average, all of that stuff. Now, you

1522
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 1: also have to take into account that NF the NFL

1523
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 1: is a one hundred percent injury sport, and dodging it

1524
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: his luck almost more than anything else. It's dumb luck. Yeah, okay,

1525
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: read Duke from Blaisdell number eight. This is the missing

1526
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: piece sign what all Caps release Brown, Morse, Jefferson and Butler.

1527
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: It's that simple. If he wants to play for a contender. Wow,

1528
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: that right there is what greeted me when I came

1529
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: in to work today. That whole mentality, YEA, get them.

1530
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: I had to stand on the brakes to even break

1531
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: the momentum of that train. Well, I mean, I think

1532
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: you look at Buffalo's defensive line and I think we

1533
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: can all agree it came up short in some areas,

1534
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:12,440
Speaker 1: namely getting to the pass rusher, getting to the passer consistently,

1535
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: stopping the run on a consistent basis. And if you

1536
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: look across that defensive front, there are no elite players.

1537
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: And I don't even know that J. J. Watt is

1538
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: elite anymore, but I think if he's signed by the Bills,

1539
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: he's the most talented defensive lineman on the roster. As

1540
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: soon as he walks in the door. How much better

1541
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: does that guy at age thirty two make you? That's

1542
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: the assessment that has to be made. And if he

1543
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: makes a gigantic difference or you believe he can you can't.

1544
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 1: Gotta consider it, Yeah, you really do. And you know

1545
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: the draft class is considered thin at defensive tackle. Yes,

1546
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: they get starback, but you line up JJ Watt with

1547
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: Ed Oliver and Star and let's just say, for argument's sake,

1548
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 1: you have Jerry at right end. That's pretty damn good.

1549
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: And it's a lot better and wetter last year. It

1550
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 1: seems better. M Yeah, it really comes down to what

1551
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: you think you can get out at JJ Watt and

1552
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: what you can count on getting out of him during

1553
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: a regular season. I mean, this is you know, let's

1554
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: face it, this is a guy that I mean, he

1555
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 1: may come up lame in the preseason. At his age

1556
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: and with his history, you gotta have some protection against that.

1557
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, if it does happen, even if

1558
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: you don't have him locked up financially, even if it doesn't,

1559
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: if it's no skin off your chin financially, if he

1560
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: gives you the best deal possible, You're given him a

1561
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: base salary with all kinds of incentives, and he still

1562
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: goes down lame in preseason, well you're still out. You

1563
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: don't have that player. You got the cap he's not

1564
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: gonna pay him, but you got nobody to play. Yeah, right,

1565
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: you need the guy. You don't if the money's there,

1566
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: pay him. You need the guy. Which is why Charlie says,

1567
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: if you're talking about money, it just comes down to

1568
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: does he want to play for a contender? Does he

1569
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: want to make a lot of money? I'm not sure

1570
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: how many teams that are ready to win now can

1571
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: afford to pay him a lot. I feel the Bills

1572
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: are one of the elite teams that can get better

1573
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: with him. I think they are a better defensive line

1574
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 1: with him, definitely. It's hard to name one that wouldn't

1575
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: be right. Right, Maybe the Bucks right, But Shack Barrett's

1576
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: a free agent. He might not be back, you know

1577
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? JJ or Shack Shack, there you go.

1578
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: Shack's also twenty eight. Do you want to sit down

1579
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: and wait for him? No? And I don't. And I

1580
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: can't afford to pay him eighteen million dollars, So I

1581
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: can get a thirty two year old JJ Watt maybe

1582
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: for eleven or twelve or maybe even ten. I may

1583
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: hang around and wait for Shack and try and clear

1584
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: some unless you like von Miller better, and wait for him.

1585
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: We have to take a break. When we come back,

1586
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: more of your comments on the tweet Cheetah coming up

1587
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: up in about fifteen minutes. Pro Football Hall of Fame

1588
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: inductee and former Bills quarterback Tom Flores gonna be joining

1589
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: us in the third hour of the program. Stay tuned

1590
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: for that. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

1591
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1592
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:31,919
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you talking j J. Watt

1593
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: and people that are coming out of the woodwork. Steve,

1594
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: coming out of the woodwork. I'm just pulling these straight

1595
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: off our Twitter feed here. Agreed, it is time to

1596
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: throw all our chips in. We are so close I

1597
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: can taste it. And what may be the missing piece?

1598
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Now there you go. That's uh. That's

1599
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,719
Speaker 1: one of the latest responses on whether the Bills should

1600
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: sue JJ Watt and if so, at what cost. Here's

1601
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: another one. Our team is This is from James. Our

1602
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: team is now a destination that free agents like Watt

1603
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: would like to play for. Hated watching players walk away

1604
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 1: to other places. Keeping Trey and Snowman is such a

1605
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: cool thing. If Bean wantsome go get JJ Trustings. Here's

1606
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: the thing, JJ Watt, Maybe he's at the top of

1607
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: your list. Right behind him would be a guy like

1608
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams who's twenty seven. Clown's just the boatload of money,

1609
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: Davian Clowney's twenty eight, Justin Houston thirty two, Janiking Goatways

1610
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: twenty six, Ryan Carrigan who is almost the same age.

1611
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: He's a year older than JJ Ryan Carrigan, Tyrone Crawford

1612
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 1: from Dallas, who's thirty one. Then you got Solomon Thomas

1613
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: from San Francisco. That might be a guy to look

1614
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: at coming off a major injury. But yeah, that may

1615
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 1: get him maybe be able to maybe lible to afford him.

1616
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: Alex Oka four, Romeo Aquara Benson, Mayora Mayowa, sure you know.

1617
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: Then you got guys like Charles Harris, Tech, harrist McKinley,

1618
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair, I'm a no on Tech right, DeMarcus Walker.

1619
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 1: So he got some guys that there's a whole list

1620
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 1: of guys that acome available. The ones at the top

1621
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: who are saying goodbye to eight digit salaries. Goes from

1622
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Carrigan to Yannick and Gockway, Justin Huston Gockway is

1623
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: a young player. That's interesting, but you know he's gonna

1624
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: be a boatload of money. He's gonna cost a boatload

1625
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 1: of money. Listen, all these guys aren't gonna make a

1626
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 1: boatload of money. There's too many of them. Yeah, And

1627
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be not enough teams. There's gonna be

1628
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: that much team many teams. And if you can get

1629
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: a guy to sign a team friendly deal, those that's

1630
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: the list right there. And it starts with JJ. I'm

1631
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: not saying it doesn't, but Leonard William Jadeveon Clowney. Clowney's

1632
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 1: a guy that I don't know that he fits the

1633
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: culture because I don't know that he's got an engine

1634
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: that goes to you know that he goes all the

1635
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: way up. It's a no for me. His throttle's broken. Yes,

1636
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 1: and you know so Justin Houston and all of them,

1637
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: well except for well, that's not true. Most of them

1638
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: are in their high thirties or high twenties and low thirties. Jay,

1639
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,639
Speaker 1: here's old. I'm talking about JT on the tweet sheet

1640
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: exercises a bit more caution here. He says, should the

1641
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: Bills bring in Watt for a Super Bowl push? Does

1642
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: he have enough in the tank to still contribute? Can

1643
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: he still get to the quarterback at this time in

1644
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 1: his career. Also, I wouldn't mind trying four in Gockway again,

1645
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: or Leonard Williams, or take a chance on Clowney. He's

1646
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 1: only twenty seven cap ending. I'm a no on Clowney.

1647
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: I'm not going near that dude. He washed out with

1648
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: the Seahawks where he flashed a couple of times and

1649
01:30:55,560 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: was an absolute waste of space for the Houston Seahawks. Titans. Yeah,

1650
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: with the Titans, he did there's zero, They're zero. It's

1651
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: for me, it's a red flag when a guy bounces

1652
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 1: around something is not worth it for that team. And

1653
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: if it's not worth it for that teams. On his

1654
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: third team with the Ravens, right Jags, But the Raves

1655
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: signed him to a too quick They Yes, they were

1656
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 1: pushing their chips to the middle of the table and

1657
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 1: it didn't work right, And you can't blame the guy

1658
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: for going there because it looked good for him there. Right,

1659
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 1: they were a playoff team, wanted to give him a push,

1660
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: and we're gonna use him Okay, I get that. That's

1661
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: on the other side in jude On and right now

1662
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: in Goquay's former and his first team, the Jaguars were

1663
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 1: a mess. Yeah, now the second he wouldn't sign with

1664
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,480
Speaker 1: them and wanted out right now, who's the second team Minnesota?

1665
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: All right? So that there for like six or seven games.

1666
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: I want to know what about that? Yeah, that's my investigation.

1667
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: That's the investigation. That's the red flag. Right. So, and

1668
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams with the Jets gets moved via trade to

1669
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 1: the Giants crossed the street, right, first time they've done

1670
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: business since, like, I think it's the first trade they right, um, yeah?

1671
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: And then is Leonard Williams is going to be back?

1672
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean they I think they want him back because

1673
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 1: they're trying to still build that defense. But does he

1674
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: want to go back there? I don't know. Yeah. I've

1675
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: played for both the New York teams that reside in

1676
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: New Jersey and haven't had much success. That guy, how

1677
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: about you try the one that does play in New York. Hello,

1678
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: that guy him, Hey, he can play end end tech.

1679
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 1: That guy, freak athlete, is an absolute monster. And if

1680
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: in this culture, if he fits in this culture, with

1681
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 1: these guys around him, and he can elevate with these guys,

1682
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: he could be and he could be an All Pro player.

1683
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: That's sixteen, absolutely, absolutely an All Pro guy in an

1684
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 1: elite level at that position. Break time for us. When

1685
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: we return, we'll be talking to a twenty twenty one

1686
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in duct On. Tom Flores joins us

1687
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: next for the third hour of the program. Stay tuned

1688
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: for that. You're listening to One Bills Live presented by

1689
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Kalaida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radiollow Bills Radio Network Sports Update.

1690
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Your sports update from One Bill's Drive. JJ Watt has

1691
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 1: been one of the faces of the Texans since he

1692
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: was drafted in twenty eleven. He'll be playing for a

1693
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: different team in twenty twenty one. Watt asked for and

1694
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: was granted his release from the franchise. The three time

1695
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year said in a video post

1696
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: to social media on Friday the release was inevitable as

1697
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 1: he carried a seventeen and a half million dollars cap

1698
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: figure for this coming season. Watt leaves the Texans after

1699
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 1: one hundred and one total sacks in one hundred twenty

1700
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: eight starts. They entered the world together. They're leaving the

1701
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: football world together too. Longtime NFL centers More Kese and

1702
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: Mike Pouncey, twin brothers, retiring from the NFL. More Case

1703
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: the first round pick of the Steelers in twenty ten,

1704
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 1: three time first Team All Pro, nine time Pro Bowler. Meanwhile,

1705
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: Mike Pouncey, a first round pick of the Dolphins in

1706
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, spent seven years in Miami, three with the Chargers,

1707
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,799
Speaker 1: and went to the Pro Bowl four times. Trevor Lawrence

1708
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: got one last chance to throw for NFL teams before

1709
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: the draft, as he held his Pro day at Clemson

1710
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: earlier today. Lawrence is the presumptive number one pick. Instead

1711
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: of going through the motions, decided to throw in front

1712
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: of the seventeen NFL teams in attendance. His early pro

1713
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: day is due to the fact he'll have surgery on

1714
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: his left non throwing shoulder for a torn labor before

1715
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: the draft, so he's ready to play in time for

1716
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season. Tyrell Williams stint with the

1717
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: Raiders appears to be over after just two years. Las

1718
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 1: Vegas plans to release the receiver at the start of

1719
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: the new league year in March. Williams didn't play in

1720
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty dwo to a shoulder injury that required surgery.

1721
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, he had team highs with forty two

1722
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: for six hundred and fifty one yards and six touchdowns

1723
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 1: in a Raiders offense that sorely needed another receiver to

1724
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: go along with him and The Bisons today announced that

1725
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: they have accepted Major League Baseball's invitation to be a

1726
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 1: member of its all new professional Development League system, signing

1727
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: a ten year player development license agreement. As part of

1728
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 1: the agreement, the Bisons will serve as the Triple A

1729
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 1: affiliate of the Blue Jays, continuing a partnership between the

1730
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: two organizations. The Herd will now compete in a new

1731
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: twenty team league titled Triple A East that takes over

1732
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: for the former International League. That is your sports update

1733
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

1734
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: for our number three of the program, broadcasting live from

1735
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: the Seneca Studios here in Orchard Park, and we are

1736
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 1: waiting patiently to be joined by Pro Football Hall of

1737
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: Fame inductee for twenty twenty one one, Tom Flores, who

1738
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 1: not only was a Super Bowl winning coach of the

1739
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders Oakland slash LA Raiders, excuse me, but was

1740
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: also a quarterback for the Bills when he was traded

1741
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: here in nineteen sixty seven one of Super Bowl as

1742
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: a player with the Chiefs. Has backed up Lynn Dawson

1743
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,600
Speaker 1: in Super Bowl four, was an assistant coach for the

1744
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Raiders when they won Super Bowl eleven, and was head

1745
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 1: coach of the Raiders when they won Super Bowl fifteen

1746
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl eighteen four Super Bowl rings. He's got, yeah,

1747
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: and he's been. He's going to be inducted into the

1748
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in twenty twenty one here and former

1749
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills quarterback started his coaching career here in Buffalo

1750
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: as an assistant as a wide receivers coach. Yeah, he's

1751
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 1: a name that's synonymous with the NFL, and congratulations to him.

1752
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 1: He's he deserves every good thing that comes to him

1753
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 1: as far as the Hall of Fame and the recognition

1754
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: he gets. A tremendous player and obviously a great head

1755
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: coach too. So there you go. It'll be fun to

1756
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: talk to him. I Well, like like I told you

1757
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: earlier in the show. Paul McGuire, former Buffalo Bills linebacker

1758
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: and Tom our close friends. And that was my introduction

1759
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: to him at first. And to see those two guys

1760
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 1: hobnob it's pretty fine. Oh my gosh, anybody in a room.

1761
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 1: Let me say, Tom Flores is the one that's that,

1762
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: That is the the respectable one of those two. Paul,

1763
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 1: but both those guys a lot of fun and uh,

1764
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: it'll be fun to get him on the on the phone.

1765
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 1: We get him here in a minute or two. That's

1766
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 1: one thing I was going to ask you about, and

1767
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: I will do it. I guess. I don't know if

1768
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: I want to take the time to go into this now.

1769
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: But there was a name that are that our friend

1770
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso we had on earlier in the show NFL

1771
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 1: on CBS. Guy uh named did you did this go by? You?

1772
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: Did the name? If Yatu Melophone Wu? Oh the SYRACUSI

1773
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: do you know? Did you? I looked him up. He's

1774
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: the younger brother of Obi melonfon Wu, who played his

1775
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 1: college ball at Yukon and also killed it at the

1776
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Just an athletic freak, but um unfortunately he

1777
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: didn't pan out as his safety in the league. Well,

1778
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: this guy's drafted. A dB said, yeah, he's six three,

1779
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: two thirteen. Yeah, I mean, if you see these kids,

1780
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 1: I mean his older brother is chiseled at a granted too,

1781
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean he passes the eyeball test. It's the instincts

1782
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 1: that really um that affected his brother right in not

1783
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: making it in the league because he only lasted for

1784
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 1: three or four year. I don't think he's anywhere in

1785
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 1: the league right now. Who what coaching staff is really

1786
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 1: good at player development? We should have one of those.

1787
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Oh I think we do, don't we right here? Maybe

1788
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 1: maybe we sneak that guy in later in the draft

1789
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: and turns out to be like a Jane Jackson. Yeah,

1790
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: well I was thinking more, you know, like an Albert

1791
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: Lewis or oh, Albert Lewis, now you're talking. Or that

1792
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: guy was a good gunner too, wasn't he He was

1793
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,480
Speaker 1: a gunner for a while. Wasn't he was a kick blocker? Yeah?

1794
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: He has more. He had more block kicks in his

1795
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 1: career than I think I did. Wow, I think Albert

1796
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: Lewis did. Yeah, great player. All right, Well we are

1797
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 1: joined now by a two thousand and seven California Sports

1798
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame inductee and now a twenty twenty one

1799
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee. It is one Tom

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01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: Flora is joining us coach. Congratulations first and foremost second,

1801
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 1: thanks for giving us some time today. Wow, you're quite welcome,

1802
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: and uh, it's good. Quite a week for me in

1803
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: quite two weeks. Really this old, you know, with all

1804
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: this COVID thing going on, and I had I found

1805
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: out about I got the knock of the door a

1806
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: week early, and I had to keep it quiet. I

1807
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 1: had to keep a secret for a week. Had you

1808
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 1: realized keep it a secret like gut for a week. Yeah,

1809
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 1: that is awesome. And I'll tell you you are a

1810
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: well kept secret for years and years. A lot of people,

1811
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: including the guys here, we always we thought you were

1812
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: deserving of induction years before. You've got four Super Bowls

1813
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 1: to your credit as a players and assistant coaching as

1814
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: obviously as a head coach. What are the common denominators

1815
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: that you found in your career as a coach with

1816
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: with those great teams that you were part of as

1817
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,679
Speaker 1: a player as a coach, when you you know, when

1818
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: you basically constructed two teams that won the Super Bowl,

1819
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: what are the common denominators? Well, the common denominators were

1820
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 1: that every one of those teams had their own personality,

1821
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: that the players, we always allowed them to have their

1822
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: own personality. When I was a player with the Chiefs

1823
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 1: back in the Super Bowl War, we had a we

1824
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 1: had an incredible amount of character on our team. Hanks

1825
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: Drama as a coach, and then later on with when

1826
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I was assistant coach with John Madden, the same thing.

1827
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 1: And then when I became head coach, we had a

1828
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 1: different type of character and we had I laughed when

1829
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,759
Speaker 1: I say that, because you know what I'm talking about.

1830
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 1: And we had, you know, guys like but Jew Zach

1831
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,719
Speaker 1: and Al say though, and but we had great players.

1832
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 1: We had and Ricks up Shaw on the show, Jim Plunkett,

1833
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 1: and it was just incredible we had and a lot

1834
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: of that, a lot of great memories. I know that

1835
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, most people obviously remember your time with the

1836
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: Raiders most formatively, and that's totally understandable. But I am

1837
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: curious to know because you know, if you look, you know,

1838
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 1: I look at taking the time to look back at

1839
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: your career stats. You had a pretty good season in

1840
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six with the Raiders as their quarterback. You

1841
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 1: had a seven two on one record. I mean, you

1842
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: had twenty four touchdown passes and then they trade you

1843
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: to the Bills. Can you refresh our memory as to

1844
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 1: what the hell happened there? A guy that throws twenty

1845
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes gets traded. You gotta explain this one

1846
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 1: for me, Well, it was it was a shock to

1847
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: be the head coach, and I must have had at

1848
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: that time. But John Roger, who had actually ended up

1849
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:03,600
Speaker 1: joined the Buffalo I did, and we I guess we're

1850
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 1: on different pages, and I was shocked. I always shocked.

1851
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: But when I heard that new as well, I mean,

1852
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: this can't be that bad, because Buffalo's got really a

1853
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: good football team that you guys have been in the

1854
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: championships and on the East and had some great players.

1855
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: But it just didn't work out for me there. Unfortunately,

1856
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: we had a lot of injuries. I got hurt. So

1857
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: my time in Buffalo was not wasted because I had

1858
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,560
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of friendships that I did developed, But

1859
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 1: my football experience was kind of a kind of hit

1860
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 1: the roadblock at that point when in the last couple

1861
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,560
Speaker 1: of weeks before you found out you were going to

1862
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: be inducted, into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. What

1863
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: were your thoughts about it? Because you were a hot

1864
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 1: topic of conversation for a lot of people who closely

1865
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: followed the Hall of Fame why you were not in?

1866
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts about not being in before you

1867
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: actually got inducted. Well, I thought, yeah, obviously, I thought

1868
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:13,799
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been been based on my evaluation compared

1869
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 1: to other players that had been in, coaches or players, uh, individuals.

1870
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: So and I had kept so close two years ago.

1871
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 1: I was sitting there in at Lant, I waited for

1872
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 1: the knock on the door. The knock never came. Last

1873
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: year was there was no knock on anybody's door because

1874
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 1: they just two guys went in ahead of the crump.

1875
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 1: So I kind of been pretty well guarded as far

1876
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 1: as getting selected again this year. I'm not going to

1877
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: put myself with that position. If it happens, it happens.

1878
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: And here I am in bossed rings my home and

1879
01:43:56,320 --> 01:44:00,640
Speaker 1: anyone well's bom springs. There was a knock on the

1880
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 1: door a week from the Super Bowl, and here's this

1881
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 1: guy bigger than I build up the whole door. And

1882
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, I mean I finally made.

1883
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: It was I'll tell you it was, Steve. It was

1884
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: what what a what a moment in my life. I

1885
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 1: got to ask you to tell me the truth. Now, Tom,

1886
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 1: did you call Paul McGuire and tell him early? How early?

1887
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 1: I had to tell my best friend. Yeah, but I

1888
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 1: didn't tell him, you know, until the day before and

1889
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 1: then I told him. I told him at the same

1890
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: time that I told We told our jo our kids

1891
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 1: on Friday before the Saturday event and uh, and I

1892
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 1: had to call Paul that day and we've been too

1893
01:44:56,439 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: good A friends did not go. That's awesome. And if

1894
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: you can't answer this, coach, I understand. But have you

1895
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: given any thought yet to who might present you when

1896
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 1: you are inducted on on on enshrinement day, Well, I

1897
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: have you thought. I haven't decided yet. I'm still trying

1898
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 1: to make a decision. It's not easy decision to make.

1899
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 1: But but uh, you know, but I have given some

1900
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 1: fun and I do have to two individuals and one

1901
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: will be hopefully the one that presents me right and

1902
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 1: then I can't help. But uh, feel compelled to ask

1903
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 1: you this one because I was recently watching the ESPN

1904
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty special on al Davis uh and his

1905
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, uh frayed relationship with Commissioner Roselle, shall we say?

1906
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: And the one thing that I pulled out of it

1907
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 1: that just sparked something in my head, know when we

1908
01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: were talking to you today, was when he moved it

1909
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: team to LA to play games there. That first year

1910
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: you guys moved, you were still practicing during the week

1911
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 1: in Oakland? Am I right about that? That's correct? How tough?

1912
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 1: How tough was that? I mean, we're talking about all

1913
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:18,639
Speaker 1: these challenges that these coaches went through this year during

1914
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 1: COVID You practiced your team all week in Oakland and

1915
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: then got on the bus every week for a home game.

1916
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: How hard was that? Now, we're a lot of challenges

1917
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 1: in my career with the Raiders, that was one of

1918
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 1: the toughest ones because we had an eight week strike

1919
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 1: and then we sat around and then we decided, well,

1920
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 1: just not moved the team this year. We were all

1921
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: ready to go, We had the facility ready and everything,

1922
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: but we decided that it would not be smart, and

1923
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: so we just set practice, got ready and every weekend

1924
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 1: we got enough plane and went played home games were

1925
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 1: in LA and the way games were where were they

1926
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: wherever they were supposed to be. So that was not easy.

1927
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: Not easy. It was a lot easier for our families

1928
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 1: because at least we were closer to them. But in

1929
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: the following year, our first year when we did both

1930
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 1: moved j LA physically. I lived in the whole jail

1931
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 1: for fourteen buds while we were winning a Super Bowl. Man,

1932
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 1: it's an amazing story. And I gotta tell you, throughout

1933
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,560
Speaker 1: my career as an NFL player, I didn't know the

1934
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. They were only the La Raiders in my career. Wow.

1935
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 1: And that's that's just what I knew at the time.

1936
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,640
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this, Uh, Tom, you were

1937
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,560
Speaker 1: you backed up a guy like Lenny Dawson on a

1938
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. You came to Buffalo and you were

1939
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 1: there with Jack Camp who is you know, a legend

1940
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,679
Speaker 1: here with this franchise. But during your head coaching career

1941
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: as well, you took over for a legend and Tom Madden,

1942
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 1: what were the John Madden? John Madden, tell me the

1943
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: challenges that were that presented themselves to you after taking

1944
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,600
Speaker 1: over for a guy that that also was in the

1945
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Well, it's always John had on a

1946
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 1: hundred over one hundred years of ten years and had

1947
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 1: a incredible career there, and I had worked under John

1948
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: for seven of those years. So the one thing that

1949
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 1: that people should know is that when I took over,

1950
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: I had been with the Raiders seven of my playing

1951
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: years and I had been with them seven of my

1952
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: coaching years. So I was no stranger in town. I

1953
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 1: knew al Davis. I played when al Day was just

1954
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 1: a head coach and Joel manager, so and when when

1955
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: the players all knew me. So it wasn't like coming

1956
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: into a strange situation that was broken. The system wasn't broken.

1957
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: We were a playoff team and John just it was time.

1958
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: So I took over and out felt that I would

1959
01:48:55,560 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: be the guy, and fortunately for him, fortunately for me really,

1960
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:06,000
Speaker 1: we eventually won and we kind of just my first year,

1961
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 1: we had stake and we had Snake Saber than we

1962
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 1: traded him and then we dust it off Joe Jim

1963
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: Plunkett and dropped him up in the and said, okay,

1964
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: you're on, and I'll tell you he performed big games.

1965
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: You played big and big games, and I got to

1966
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: ask you, coach, like just you know, being a kid

1967
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 1: from Fresno I mean, how were the Raiders or were

1968
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 1: the Niners teams that were like the apple of your eye?

1969
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: Was there one over the other that grown? Because I

1970
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 1: have to imagine for somebody from Fresno to coach play

1971
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: for a team that's as close to a hometown team

1972
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,640
Speaker 1: as you can get. I mean, that's that's kind of

1973
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 1: a dream come true, isn't it? Well? I love you know.

1974
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 1: When I joined the Raiders, my career was over, and

1975
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: just since the new league started, the American Football Links,

1976
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 1: so I was I thought, I'll give it a shot.

1977
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: I said, I got nothing to lose. Listen, as I

1978
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: had nothing to do. I tried and failed at that

1979
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 1: surgery at my shoulder, tried again and failed. I said

1980
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 1: it was time to move on. And then all of

1981
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 1: a sudden, this little old league and this little old

1982
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: town started up. And as you wait, I got nothing

1983
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 1: to lose, I'll give it another shot and we'll see

1984
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 1: what happens. And that was sixty one years ago. So

1985
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 1: it worked out. How about that? I certainly did. It,

1986
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 1: certainly did, and I got a congratulations on making the

1987
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. It's a fantastic honor, well deserved um

1988
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 1: for a guy who is a part of a Super

1989
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 1: Bowl teams at every conceivable level. Um, I really had

1990
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: to tip my hat to you about what you've accomplished

1991
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: and finally getting recognized and getting um the recognition you deserve.

1992
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: That you appreciate, Steve, good luck on your quest. Thanks,

1993
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Good because well when you get there

1994
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:08,719
Speaker 1: you'll find out. Okay. Thanks, Thanks for the time, coach,

1995
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 1: and good luck and enjoy your special day coming up

1996
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 1: this summer. You bet all right, all my friends in Buffalo,

1997
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 1: I love Buffalo. All right, we will. We'll do that, coach.

1998
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Again. That's Tom Flores, twenty twenty

1999
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: one Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee, and we were

2000
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: just playing the footage of when ce David Baker, the

2001
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 1: president of the Pro Football Hall of Fame and Canon.

2002
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 1: Usually he's just trapesing around the hotel room on Super

2003
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 1: Bowl weekend where everybody has gathered for the big game.

2004
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: He had to go around the country, Yeah, to kind

2005
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:45,760
Speaker 1: of let these guys know they were in. And I

2006
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 1: gave him a lot of credit for going to the

2007
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 1: lengths to do that. During the COVID pandemic, this guy

2008
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 1: literally went door to door to every Hall of Fame

2009
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 1: inductee surprises Charles Woodson in his backyard. He's doing some

2010
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 1: phony interview. He meets up with Peyton Manning at the

2011
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: new Mile High Stadium where they got him doing some

2012
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: promo for something and his show, for his show, and

2013
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 1: they sneak up behind him and there's David Baker. I mean,

2014
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 1: this is a hard guy to hide. He's six foot eight,

2015
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty pounds. He's he's a giant. Yeah,

2016
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 1: he's a giant of a man. And yeah, and they

2017
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: and they, you know, because the NFL can can do that.

2018
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean he was on a jet, a net net

2019
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 1: jet I think is what it's called, and the jet. Yeah,

2020
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: and they hopped around the cut but that they had

2021
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 1: to do it that way because nobody's gonna go to

2022
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 1: the super Bowl this year, and that's when the day

2023
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 1: that they always uh induct these guys. I think it's

2024
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: a great idea is you can see coaches getting choked up,

2025
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 1: and understandably so, but it's just great. He's really good

2026
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, Baker's really good. And he slays it on,

2027
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: doesn't he. We're welcoming you to Campton where your legacy.

2028
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: Thank you forever in shrines. It's like your whole life

2029
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 1: is flash I can't imagine your whole life has to

2030
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: be flashing before your eyes when TV movie this is

2031
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 1: your life, this is your life. Yeah, because this is

2032
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: your football. Awesome, man, that's so yeah. My hat's off today,

2033
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Vid Baker and the and the team that does that

2034
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They because I've

2035
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 1: seen a bunch of the videos with Peyton Manning and

2036
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: Tom Flores and Charles Woodson, those guys, Oh you got me. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2037
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: you got me, got me, you got me. The cool

2038
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: thing that they did with Peyton Manning was they rolled

2039
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,799
Speaker 1: out every head coach he ever had from high school

2040
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 1: to college to pro all the way through. Like it

2041
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 1: was like six guys. Yeah, that was pretty good. Phil Fulmer,

2042
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: his high school coach, John fox Out, Kuba kubiak Um,

2043
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,679
Speaker 1: Tony Dungy. I mean, they just had the whole slew

2044
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: of him out there. It was Jim Mora was there,

2045
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 1: it was Jim No. Jim Moore had a message a video.

2046
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 1: Man he couldn't be there or whatever, but man, oh man,

2047
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 1: that was pretty good. That's very cool. Um, it's it's

2048
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 1: cool to see people. You can tell by talking to

2049
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 1: Tom Flores, one of the all time great guys, and

2050
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: you got him on the I caught him those two guys. Yeah,

2051
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: that was a good catch. You. You know, Paul's gonna

2052
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 1: be there. You know, he's gonna be at the now,

2053
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a that's gonna be a Saturday night,

2054
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: just bring it in. I remember when he was with

2055
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 1: Empire Sports Network and I just started doing the team paper,

2056
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: Bill's Digest that Tom donoh had started up, and so

2057
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 1: they're trying to get exposure for the right for the paper.

2058
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 1: And that's when Paul had a show, you know, the

2059
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:30,719
Speaker 1: sports Line sports Line on Empire Sports Network. Every guest

2060
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: to the show. You come on the show, and he's

2061
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: helping you, like get exposure for whatever. Yeah, yeah, you know.

2062
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 1: So we do the little fifteen minutes segment talking about

2063
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: the paper, talking about your paycheck, gs that and the other.

2064
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 1: So he's like, all right, Chris, thanks for coming in

2065
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And so we're off the air

2066
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: and he goes, all right, just make sure you get

2067
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 1: your stuff. On the way out, I was like, my stuff,

2068
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: what's he talking about? Yeah? So I go out, go

2069
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 1: outside the receptionist there She's like, here you go, it's

2070
01:54:56,440 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 1: an eighteen PACKA okay, I'll take that. That was it

2071
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 1: part here's some parting gifts. I felt like I was

2072
01:55:07,280 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 1: on a game show. I didn't know what it was.

2073
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 1: Unbelieving that was that was the only pay you got?

2074
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 1: Was well, that's right, Haydon beer. Well it's more than

2075
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 1: you usually get. The handshake and the thank you. What

2076
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: we didn't give Tom Flores Flora is a thank you

2077
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 1: on the over the air here thank you, not even

2078
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 1: a handshat. So there you go. That's great. It was

2079
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 1: good to talk to him. I'm I am happy for him,

2080
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 1: and um I wanted to I ran we ran out

2081
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 1: of time. I wanted to ask him. You know, this

2082
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 1: is a guy that was the first Latino starting quarterback

2083
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL, first Latino head coach in the NFL.

2084
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 1: I just wonder what he thinks when he sees a

2085
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: guy like Ron Rivera, you know, succeeding in the league

2086
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:45,360
Speaker 1: as a head coach and stuff like that. I just

2087
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 1: wonder what kind of feeling that gives him, because you know,

2088
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 1: he's a trailblazer for a guy like that, you know,

2089
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 1: that's just that's got to give him a good feeling, right, Um,

2090
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 1: because Ron Rivero probably looked at Tom Flora's a long

2091
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: time ago and said, yeah, I can do it. That

2092
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: can be me, because you know, he sees a Latino

2093
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 1: guy doing the same thing. So absolutely, I don't know.

2094
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 1: I gotta imagine that's got to fill him of the

2095
01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 1: tremendous sense of pride. And I asked him that question.

2096
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking to him about playing for your hometown team.

2097
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 1: Oakland wasn't there yet, but yeah, I'm like, duh, duh

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01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 1: the math buddy, they were. He's a founding member, yeah, Solus.

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01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 1: I think he thought his career was over and then

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Speaker 1: the AFL starts up and he gets a second crack

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Speaker 1: at it, right, And if that doesn't happen, he's probably

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01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 1: not where he is now. Absolutely not. Yeah, So it's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. Um, guys, just wow, you can tell

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Speaker 1: just by talking to him. Just one of the all

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Speaker 1: time great guys. Just low key, very low key. He

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Speaker 1: did the Raiders games on radio for years and years,

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Speaker 1: even up to just a couple of years ago. He

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Speaker 1: was still doing it, right, He was doing it for

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Speaker 1: years and years, and uh, you know, people love him

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Speaker 1: and uh and rightfully, so, congratulations to Tom Flores and

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Speaker 1: thanks for being on Wow. Yeah, that's good. Get by

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Speaker 1: Jay had a tip of the hat to Jay, Tip

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Speaker 1: of the hat to Jay Harris. And I can imagine

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01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 1: how busy Tom Larez has been the last couple of weeks. Well,

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01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: that's why you get him in February, because come July

2116
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 1: and August, forget it, you're not getting that. You gotta

2117
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 1: get off them. You have to almost get off the map, right,

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01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: take the take the chip out of your phone, throw

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01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 1: it in the ocean, right, Yeah, you gotta leave, leave

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01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 1: the house. I can't get the image of Saturday night

2121
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 1: with Paul McGuire out of my head for him that

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01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 1: he'd better be careful. He might not make it up

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01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: to the lectern uh the night of the ceremony if

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01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: they tie one on too hard the night before. I

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01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: don't let me just say this, Paul is they're both

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Speaker 1: eighty in their eighties. Yeah, well into their eighties. I

2127
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 1: don't know that's gonna stop. Paul McGuire can bounce back

2128
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: like nobody else. Take my word for it. That guy

2129
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 1: Iron's stomach, that guy is the is the king of rebound. Yeah,

2130
01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 1: that guy's there. Nobody bounces back. That guy can bounce

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01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 1: back like nobody. He didn't even know what that is.

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01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: I put him up at eighty something. Whatever he is,

2133
01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: I would put him up against anybody. He is the best. Yeah,

2134
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 1: hangover not a word that even exists. And he yes,

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Speaker 1: he will listen. He trained a lot of people in Buffalo,

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01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 1: that guy. All right, break time for us. When we

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Speaker 1: come back. We are going to get to your OBL

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Speaker 1: fan mailbag questions, which we take here every Friday. We've

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01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: been talking JJ Watt all day, but we've got some

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01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 1: questions of yours to answer. Steve and I will do

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Speaker 1: that when we return here on One Bills Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live, final half hour of the show.

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Speaker 1: Time to open up the OBL fan mailbag, as we

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01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 1: do every Friday, with any question you might have about

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01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 1: the team, the roster, the NFL free agency, the draft.

2147
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 1: You have it, we answer it. So and once again tweet.

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Speaker 1: She brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

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01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,920
Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Jack from the

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01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 1: mailbag says, what tight end would you like to see

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01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: the Bills go after to compliment Knox and the passing game.

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01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 1: I like john Us Smith, who's combination of size, speed

2153
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 1: and hands are juicy, juicy and all caps here from Jack,

2154
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: but Henry may be more complete but often injured Hunter

2155
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 1: Henry he's talking about from the Chargers. Trading for Arts

2156
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 1: or in Joku would also be pretty swell. Where does

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01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 1: Bean look? I don't think you're gonna have to trade

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01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 1: for Arts because he looks like he's going to be

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01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 1: a cap casualty of the Eagles now in the final

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01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 1: year of his deal. And Joku has already asked for

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01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 1: a trade then rescinded that ask and finished the season

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01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: with the Browns last year. Who knows where the heck

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01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 1: that's going, But yeah, Bean and McDermott said they do

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01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,560
Speaker 1: want to upgrade the position. I think we are anticipating

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01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 1: there will be some change there. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: thinks Tyler Croft is coming back as a free agent.

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01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:57,760
Speaker 1: And as we mentioned on the show yesterday, Lee Smith

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Speaker 1: is contemplating retirement. He has a year left on his

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Speaker 1: current contract with the Bills. So do they go purely

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Speaker 1: playmaking guy or do they need somebody that can do

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02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, knowing you have the potential

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Speaker 1: of losing Lee Smith as a blocking tight end. You

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02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 1: do have Tommy Sweeney still under contract. We'll have to

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Speaker 1: see where that goes after he was put on IR

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Speaker 1: with a myocarditis condition as a result of contracting COVID,

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02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 1: So hopefully with medication that condition can be controlled. And

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Speaker 1: you have Dawson Knox, and you have Reggie Gilliam who

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Speaker 1: just came off his rookie season as an undrafted kid.

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Speaker 1: Everybody and a lot of people now I've I've heard

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Speaker 1: you like with this with Dawson Knox. They're like, God, Dawson,

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Speaker 1: come on, come on, hurry. Well, you know, let me

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Speaker 1: just tell you how long were we willing to wait

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Speaker 1: on Josh Allen third year. It came to fruition, right,

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Speaker 1: And this will be Knox's third year coming up. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm still not done with Dawson Knox at all.

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Speaker 1: I thought, despite the fact that he had his season

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02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:03,919
Speaker 1: got underway with hiccups and stars had a calf injurying

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02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 1: at COVID list and all of that. I got high

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02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 1: hopes for that guy. And we'll see if he can

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Speaker 1: continue to develop. He has to, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: He's still got some work to do. But let's give

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Speaker 1: the guy a third year and let him see if

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Speaker 1: he can get better. Give him some help, even with

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Speaker 1: a you know, another another guy. Bring Bring a guy

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Speaker 1: in like uh, John U. Smith, who's a different type

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Speaker 1: of guy, who's a big dude. You know, Maybe give

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of what Lee Smith may leave

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Speaker 1: behind if he does indeed retire. I'm not adverse to

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Speaker 1: bringing Lee Smith back again. He made some crucial plays

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Speaker 1: for this club in some spots. He's you know, he's

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Speaker 1: just one of those guys that knows how to get

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Speaker 1: it done. So, uh, I'm all about it. And I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering right now. I'm not as much up in the

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Speaker 1: air about Dawson Knox as I am about Tommy Sweeney.

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Speaker 1: Tommy Sweeney, where's that guy been? He came in the

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Speaker 1: same same year as Dawson, and we haven't seen him.

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02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 1: He was on IR with the foot injury, then contracted COVID,

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02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 1: then developed with myocarditis and had to be put on

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Speaker 1: injured reserve. Now the last coach left it when he

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Speaker 1: announced that condition that Sweeney had sustained prompting them to

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Speaker 1: put him on injured reserve. He did say that they

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Speaker 1: hope that they anticipated the condition could be controlled by

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Speaker 1: medication and he would be back for the offseason roster.

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Speaker 1: But we haven't heard any updates since then, so hopefully

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Speaker 1: that is in fact the case, you know, when he

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02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,520
Speaker 1: could be a depth player for you there, he's you know,

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02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:36,000
Speaker 1: he's a capable player, but I think they're looking for

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Speaker 1: a for an upgrade, even from what Knox stave. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what they're after. If the question is,

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Speaker 1: in what package do you try to acquire that do

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Speaker 1: everything guy that can help you in the event that

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Speaker 1: Lee Smith isn't here, you know, in the blocking capacity,

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Speaker 1: but can also make some plays for you in the

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Speaker 1: short intermediate passing game. Is it a red zone guy,

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Speaker 1: like what is it? Or is it a purer, detached,

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02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, athletic tight end. I wonder what kind of

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Speaker 1: makeup they're looking for in what they perceive to be

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Speaker 1: an upgrade. That's that's the question here, right, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: you know the thing about Dawson Knox and you talk

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Speaker 1: about the guys like John U. Smith and all that,

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Speaker 1: you're you know, you're looking at how many times they're

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Speaker 1: target What kind of player are they? None of these guys,

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox included, got targeted all that much, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean Dawson Knox average like four targets a game,

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Speaker 1: and he would catch like between two and three balls

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Speaker 1: a game. And I don't know if you get a

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Speaker 1: pure pass catching tight end on this roster, if they're

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Speaker 1: going to get much more than five, right, because you

2239
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: have Stefan Digg, so you know he's getting ten or

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Speaker 1: twelve every game. And then depending on who the number

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Speaker 1: two is, whether John Brown is here or he's a

2242
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,520
Speaker 1: cab casualty and it's Gabriel Davis. And you know Cole

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02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 1: Beasley is going to catch six or seven balls a

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02:03:56,400 --> 02:04:00,200
Speaker 1: game and get targeted eight to ten times. So if

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Speaker 1: you have a dynamic tight end, you target him more.

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02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 1: I get that, um, But yeah, it's what is what

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Speaker 1: is the description of the kind of tight end that

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Speaker 1: you're looking for? That is the question. Here's the thing too,

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Speaker 1: and I said this the other day. Here it is

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Speaker 1: John H. Smith, Dawson Knox, and then there's another guy,

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Speaker 1: Gerald Everett, who has been who's been tossed out, leaner

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02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,400
Speaker 1: and more athletic play. Here we go. John H. Smith

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02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 1: leads the three of them with four point three targets

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Speaker 1: a game. Then it's Dawson Knox at three point six seven,

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Speaker 1: and then Gerald Everett at three point eight eight. So

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Speaker 1: these guys are like four four targets a game and

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Speaker 1: they average just about two to three receptions a game.

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Speaker 1: And that's it. And Dawson Knox had more TVs than

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02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:43,360
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett, but John who Smith had eight tds. That

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. They're the same guy with a little

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02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: bit different skill set. Maybe John WHU Smith is a

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Speaker 1: better blocker because he's got a big body, can take

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Speaker 1: do that. But I'll say this, how many And this

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Speaker 1: is the frustrating thing about Dawson Knox for me. Who Well,

2265
02:04:57,720 --> 02:04:59,800
Speaker 1: maybe you can say this is a defense of him

2266
02:04:59,880 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 1: or not. I see the guy running open a lot. Yeah,

2267
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:07,120
Speaker 1: I see the guy running open a couple of games.

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02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 1: I remember he had like two games I think it

2269
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 1: was two, who was it was it the Rams game

2270
02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: or something. He had like three balls go off that

2271
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 1: he just couldn't reach him, couldn't get him in it.

2272
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 1: And we know about his drops from two years ago. Uh,

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02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see that as a problem this year a

2274
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 1: little bit at the beginning of the year, but then

2275
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:27,640
Speaker 1: he took care of it. But yeah, the guy seems

2276
02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 1: to have that under control. He at least he worked

2277
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 1: on it and he got much better. And I watched

2278
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 1: this a little bit from the booth when I was

2279
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 1: doing games. He is a much more effective blocker in

2280
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 1: every respect pass pro and run blocking than he was

2281
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,560
Speaker 1: a year ago. So he's gotten better in that this year.

2282
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 1: I think his problem was inconsistency because of his time

2283
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 1: on the field right injuries and COVID and all of that.

2284
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 1: I will say this, this is his year. If he's

2285
02:05:55,120 --> 02:05:57,680
Speaker 1: gonna do it, you know what I mean, Yeah, if

2286
02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna be your guy going forward as your number

2287
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 1: one tight end. Otherwise you're spending a draft pick, and

2288
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 1: they may spend one this year, you know, just in case. Yeah, good, good,

2289
02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 1: very well do that, you know, because I don't know what,

2290
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, what we're gonna get from from Sweening all

2291
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 1: these other guys. But yeah, I'm not I'm not done

2292
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 1: with him at all. I've got high hopes for him still.

2293
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 1: From DJ in the mail Bag player Exit Interviews, who's

2294
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 1: there for the Bills? Coach GM position coaches OCDC when

2295
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 1: discussing players off seasons are bills asking or telling the

2296
02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 1: player what to do. You've been in these, so why

2297
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:34,320
Speaker 1: don't you take this one. Well, it's it might vary

2298
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 1: now from when most of the time, for a guy

2299
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 1: like me, it was always my position coach, you know

2300
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,760
Speaker 1: it was, and that was a wide receiver coach. It

2301
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:44,600
Speaker 1: wasn't Bruce to Haven, it wasn't the special teams coach.

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Speaker 1: It was the position coach that I practiced center for

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02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 1: six days a week. And there were a lot of

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Speaker 1: years when those didn't happen because not not for the bills.

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Speaker 1: They did with the bills, but um, I was in

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Speaker 1: the time when that wasn't a thing until and then

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Speaker 1: it started to be a thing later on in my career.

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Speaker 1: Usually it's your position coach now for players like Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen or Thurman Thomas or Bruce Smith, or you might

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Speaker 1: get the coordinator and if in certain cases too, the

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Speaker 1: head coach may chime in and say, hey, listen, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you too, and you're going like that.

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Speaker 1: But that's about it, and what it is mostly is

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Speaker 1: it's a recap of what your year was like. The

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Speaker 1: ups and the downs, and mostly it's about Okay, what

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Speaker 1: can you do to make sure you're back here next

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Speaker 1: year and playing even better? And that's what it focuses on.

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Speaker 1: And you'd be surprised at how specific they can be,

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Speaker 1: particularly with a quarterback, about what they want from him.

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Speaker 1: And then it's also particularly for a quarterback, it'd be

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Speaker 1: about the intangibles. You got to start connecting with these guys.

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Speaker 1: More so, it's depending on the level of athlete you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Is at least your position coach and that

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Speaker 1: position coach brings you the information from the coordinator, the

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Speaker 1: head coach and the GM and all of that. And

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Speaker 1: it's also a place where if a if a player

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Speaker 1: is on it, he'll say, Okay, what about this? What

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Speaker 1: you know? What are you guys looking for me? And

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Speaker 1: what's your philosophy gonna be? Are you gonna stick with

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Speaker 1: this fullback offense? Or is it going to go three

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02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 1: wide offense from now on? You know? Is that going

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Speaker 1: to continue to be a thing. He'll have questions as well,

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Speaker 1: So it's a give and take, no question and I

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Speaker 1: and just getting a little bit of a sense as

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Speaker 1: to what those are like too, especially with Josh the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, I mean, Brandon Bean and Sean

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02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:36,440
Speaker 1: McDermott have even said, you know, Josh goes into his

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02:08:36,520 --> 02:08:39,080
Speaker 1: exit interviews and he tells them what he's got to

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02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:41,680
Speaker 1: work on in the offseason. He almost doesn't even wait

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Speaker 1: for either his position coach Ken Dorsey or his coordinator

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02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 1: Brian Able to tell him, you know, what he needs

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02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:49,120
Speaker 1: to work on. He's already got a list ready to go.

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Speaker 1: And as we found out, Jordan Palmer's on that on

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02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 1: that program, Brian Dayball, Ken Dorsey, Davis Webb, all those

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02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:01,280
Speaker 1: guys are like, night, Josh, you need to do this.

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02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 1: And Carson Palmer's like, what do you want? And Brian

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02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 1: Dables say, listen, we're talking to him about this and

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02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 1: this and this. What are you thinking about? And Jordan

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02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 1: Palmas say, I'm gonna have him been doing this exercise

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02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: and this exercise, and maybe day Ball says, hey, also

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02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 1: add this one in. Let's work on this too, because

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02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:16,520
Speaker 1: we had some you know, issues like da da da

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02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 1: da da, and this is all proprietary stuff. They don't

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Speaker 1: talk about this publicly, about the specifics of what they're

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02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:24,640
Speaker 1: doing unless it's out there and they and they go

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02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:28,840
Speaker 1: from there. So any of these offseason coaches who work

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02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:32,880
Speaker 1: with these players individually will be at some point on

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Speaker 1: the speed dial of the coaching staff directly and they'll say, hey,

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02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 1: we're thinking about this, can you get him to work

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02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:40,840
Speaker 1: on this, this, and this. So it's all an open

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02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:43,880
Speaker 1: book for the quarterback and for guys like Josh who

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02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:45,720
Speaker 1: are all over it, they know it before they even

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Speaker 1: have the meeting. Yeah, and you know, as you said,

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Speaker 1: different coaching staffs do it different ways. The interesting thing

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02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:58,960
Speaker 1: that coach McDermott did in a year two here as

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Bill every you know and end

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02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 1: of every season, coaches evaluate players kind of initially give

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Speaker 1: them their exit interview information and say, hey, this is

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02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:13,400
Speaker 1: something you may want to think about working on when

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02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 1: you have time to hone this in your game or

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Speaker 1: maybe do this or whatever. He flipped it around. He

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Speaker 1: had the players evaluate the coaches so that the coaches

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02:10:23,080 --> 02:10:25,160
Speaker 1: could get better as well. And that is not something

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02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 1: you hear very often in this league. And you're gonna

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02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:30,480
Speaker 1: have some thick skin. Well yeah, but I think coach

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02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:34,920
Speaker 1: did it under the guise of I tell these players

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02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:39,200
Speaker 1: this is a symbiotic relationship. We help them. They help

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02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:42,320
Speaker 1: us and we're all in this together. And I think

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02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 1: that reinforced it proves it in a big way. I

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02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:47,680
Speaker 1: think it's players. It's a pretty sharp move on his part.

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Speaker 1: I think, no question about it. Yeah, break time for us,

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Speaker 1: But Steve and I back in a second to close

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Speaker 1: this thing up with what we have learned. A lot

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Speaker 1: of ground covered on today's show. We'll let you know

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Speaker 1: what that is when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by a lot of health It's Buffalo Bills Radio

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02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 1: time for what have we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks,

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Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Name recognition will make you a popular topic, and that

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Speaker 1: was the case with JJ Watt today. I think we

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02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 1: learned that. And he's a household name for football fans

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02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 1: across the country. And so when he comes available and

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02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 1: you're a team that has needs along a defensive line

2394
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:43,080
Speaker 1: that your own front office said we need to improve,

2395
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:45,960
Speaker 1: you understand why Bills fans come out of the work

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Speaker 1: work and say, yes, it's me JJ Watt right now.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. You know what to tell you

2398
02:11:50,200 --> 02:11:53,520
Speaker 1: know what I learned? The JJ Watt is the tip

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Speaker 1: of the iceberg. What's gonna be out There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some guys out there. I mean some guys Von Miller

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02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:03,920
Speaker 1: is expect Von Miller out there. I think you know.

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02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 1: There's gonna be corners out there. There's gonna be defensive

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02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:09,360
Speaker 1: tackles out there. And that's aside from the guys that

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Speaker 1: are on the list already, like JJ. There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some teams that have got to get rid of some

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Speaker 1: great players, name recognition players, and you may be able

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Speaker 1: to get him at a relatively affordable price, relatively speaking.

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Speaker 1: I think the bills are gonna if they if I

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02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:28,400
Speaker 1: think the smart teams are gonna sit on their hands,

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Speaker 1: wait a little bit and just wait a little bit,

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02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:32,600
Speaker 1: jump until these guys get what I can't believe. No,

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02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:34,600
Speaker 1: come on, and then they're gonna have something to prove,

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02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:35,800
Speaker 1: and the Bills will say, all right, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you a prove it deal, or we'll give

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Speaker 1: you an incentive laden deal. You want to bet on yourself,

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02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,600
Speaker 1: let's go it didn't they might get somebody. It didn't

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Speaker 1: work for the Patriots, who probably waited too long, but

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02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:47,600
Speaker 1: they got Cam Newton for seven and a half million dollars,

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Speaker 1: which when it happened, people were like, holy cow, they

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02:12:50,120 --> 02:12:52,440
Speaker 1: got Cam Newton for seven and a half million. That

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Speaker 1: was it. That was if he was a starter. Now

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02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 1: that was unsuccessful to say the least. But that's what

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02:12:59,240 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about. And I don't anticipate teams waiting quite

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02:13:02,920 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 1: that long. But it shows how quickly the market can

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02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:08,560
Speaker 1: soften for players if you can hold your water a

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02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:11,320
Speaker 1: little bit. And then the Deshaun Watson situation in Houston,

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02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 1: they're saying, you know, they're not gonna get rid of them.

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02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:14,840
Speaker 1: They're not gonna rid him. He said, I ain't playing

2429
02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:17,880
Speaker 1: and I'm and I know this. There have been some

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Speaker 1: players over the past. We saw late recently Levion Bell

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02:13:21,880 --> 02:13:26,360
Speaker 1: because I ain't playing. He sat out an entire year.

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Speaker 1: I'm done. I just won't play. You know, teams will

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02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:33,240
Speaker 1: learn if you get if a guy's already been paid

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02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:40,160
Speaker 1: twenty five million bucks plus, they'll sit and the teams

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02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:42,920
Speaker 1: have got to call their bluff or get rid of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that'll do us for us. This week on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: I am out of the office, getting a couple of

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Speaker 1: days off Monday and Tuesday. Next week, Maddie glab will

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Speaker 1: be joining Steve Tasker here on this fine program on Monday,

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Speaker 1: so they will see you at noon after the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Have a good weekend, everybody. M