Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, August twenty first, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we should
Speaker 2: probably take stock of how many leads we're in. It's
Speaker 2: me and your man, MG Marcus Grand joined by Michael F.
Speaker 2: Floyo and Lakwan Jones. We are one step closer to actual,
Speaker 2: real life football. How are we feeling?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: First off, we're all back together again too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're in the same room.
Speaker 6: We're here, we can we can touch.
Speaker 2: Out and touch each other, right, But yeah, we're getting
Speaker 2: closer to football. We are one last week of the preseason,
Speaker 2: a week where not a lot of folks play. But
Speaker 2: then we'll try to dive into some things maybe we
Speaker 2: want to see in this. Uh well, the talk about
Speaker 2: some news and rumors as well, play a little hype trainer
Speaker 2: smoke screen. But more importantly, we have a special guest
Speaker 2: on today's show. Uh oh, you are hight QAUI because
Speaker 2: you sort of made this happen, so I figured I
Speaker 2: should I should maybe leave this to.
Speaker 5: You to introduce ourself. Yeah, Man t tales with us today.
Speaker 5: Man Like this is going to be a great podcast
Speaker 5: with great energy. Man and what's going on?
Speaker 7: My god, there he is fam Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 7: glad to like have these conversations and then also to
Speaker 7: get a little more information on certain guys that I'm
Speaker 7: targeting into this fantasy twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you know, nobody better than than the crew
Speaker 8: over there at NFL Fantasy.
Speaker 3: So I'm really excited about this.
Speaker 2: We are appreciative of you kind of hanging out with us,
Speaker 2: that you were tapped into the fantasy community. Obviously, you
Speaker 2: guys know Man Tying a guy who had a great
Speaker 2: career at the University of Notre Dame, played in the
Speaker 2: NFL for the Chargers and the Saints as well. But
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about you and namely, like
Speaker 2: when did you start playing fantasy football and what was
Speaker 2: it that attracted you to the game.
Speaker 3: You know, I first played two years ago.
Speaker 8: That was my first ever fantasy football league that I
Speaker 8: ever joined. You know, I was one of those those
Speaker 8: players that while I was playing out to get the
Speaker 8: messages from fans.
Speaker 3: Like, man, you lost me the game, and I was.
Speaker 8: It's not that serious, you know, And as of two
Speaker 8: years ago, I'm like, yeah, it's serious.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm one.
Speaker 3: Of those fantasy football guys.
Speaker 8: Now that I'm doing research, I'm listening to interviews, I'm
Speaker 8: seeing what the head coach is saying about certain players.
Speaker 8: I'm saying, who's who's in training camp. So I'm one
Speaker 8: of those guys. And I will say when I first started,
Speaker 8: I had no idea what I was doing. I went
Speaker 8: off of who I felt was the best fit at
Speaker 8: that time. I drafted Tom Brady in my first NFL
Speaker 8: fantasy draft. And for those that play NFL fantasy, you know,
Speaker 8: I understand why everybody else was laughing at my picks.
Speaker 3: As I started to get the.
Speaker 8: Gist of NFL fantasy football, I eventually won the league.
Speaker 8: I'm one of those guys, I said on Good Morning Football.
Speaker 8: I'm you see, I'm very very active on my fantasy
Speaker 8: football league. I'm always on the waiver wire. I'm always trading.
Speaker 8: I said that become the general manager that I hated
Speaker 8: while I played. You're you're out. Yeah, So I'm that guy.
Speaker 8: It's been a blast. My wife hates it because she
Speaker 8: knows I'm about to turn in my two week notice
Speaker 8: on Thursday.
Speaker 4: We're all fifteen fifteen days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's my that's my history so far.
Speaker 6: And look, look defensive players.
Speaker 9: So your whole life has been spent trying to stop
Speaker 9: offensive players. But now for fantasy you're you're rooting for those.
Speaker 9: Does it is there like an internal conflict or something.
Speaker 9: Does it go against your nature to root for the
Speaker 9: offensive player?
Speaker 3: Now, No, there's no internal conflict.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 8: It's I'm trying to win, you know what I mean
Speaker 8: exactly give me the best advantage of winning these games.
Speaker 3: That that's who I'm trying to go for.
Speaker 8: You know, I think for me defensively, because we in
Speaker 8: our league we have one defense, it's simple for me.
Speaker 8: I think I know who the top five defenses are
Speaker 8: as far as point producing and fantasy football year in
Speaker 8: and year out.
Speaker 3: And you know, guys really don't pay attention to that.
Speaker 8: But if you're really paying attention to like the Cleveland
Speaker 8: Browns defense to the Baltimore Ravens defense two years ago,
Speaker 8: I believe it, or last year, there's a point where
Speaker 8: the Seattle Seahawks they're putting up like twenty plus points
Speaker 8: a game, and so I look.
Speaker 3: For those little defensive advantages.
Speaker 8: But for the most part, I don't care if it's
Speaker 8: a tight end, if it's a kicker. I'm going to
Speaker 8: draft you so that you could help me with and
Speaker 8: so yeah, I don't discriminate when it comes to positions.
Speaker 5: No, that's great, man, I mean have you drafted already?
Speaker 5: Is there a draft coming up?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: What's going on?
Speaker 3: So this is this is this is the thing. I
Speaker 3: have a draft on Sunday.
Speaker 8: And I told my guys I actually fly back to
Speaker 8: LA to get back on a good morning football show
Speaker 8: next week. But I told him, I say, man, I'm
Speaker 8: traveling on Sunday. Can we kick it back? And you know,
Speaker 8: preseason technically isn't over yet. You know things could happen.
Speaker 8: And one of my boys hit me back with, well,
Speaker 8: if you're trying to draft somebody that potentially could be
Speaker 8: traded or could be cut, I think you're looking in
Speaker 8: the wrong place.
Speaker 3: So they caught me a little bit on that book there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then I have two more that's on the
Speaker 8: following Sunday. So it's gonna be a good a good time.
Speaker 9: I think you need to put your two week ind
Speaker 9: notice in a little bit earlier your clock.
Speaker 8: Then Now, if I put it in too early, bro,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be single wife.
Speaker 5: And we had them nights on the counch man.
Speaker 3: I got that. I timed it up perfectly.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I gotta say, because you were saying
Speaker 2: before the show that you know, you have some guys
Speaker 2: and you're trying to not necessarily let out too much
Speaker 2: information about who you sort of like, I will, I
Speaker 2: will tell you this from somebody on our side, you know,
Speaker 2: having done this for a while. The first time I
Speaker 2: ever did a league with people who listened to the podcast,
Speaker 2: I was sort of in that same boat where I
Speaker 2: was shocked when everybody kept scooping up all the guys
Speaker 2: that I liked, the Sleepers, because it was reminded of like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: people actually listen to this show things we do. So
Speaker 2: I totally understand where you're coming from in that in
Speaker 2: that regard, Yeah, it's it's it's.
Speaker 8: Gonna be tricky. We're gonna have a great show. I'm
Speaker 8: gonna tell everybody what I think about certain people. There
Speaker 8: are a few individuals that I like to keep them,
Speaker 8: you know, I like to keep them tucked away. They're
Speaker 8: my little jewels, and you know, you think about it.
Speaker 3: I have my list.
Speaker 8: But Sam Laporta was one of those guys last year.
Speaker 8: I don't know if anybody remembers. But Sam Laporta was
Speaker 8: like one of those reserved guys in I think he
Speaker 8: was ranked like one hundred or two hundred and something
Speaker 8: last year. But I kept following the Detroit Lions training
Speaker 8: camp and I caught an excerpt on an article that
Speaker 8: said when they got into the red zone, it was
Speaker 8: a Laporter show.
Speaker 3: So right when I saw that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: hold up. So I started.
Speaker 8: Following this training camp for about about seven eight more
Speaker 8: days and then the same thing. I was like, Okay, cool,
Speaker 8: I'm not going to draft a tight end in the
Speaker 8: first six rounds whatever. I'm gonna draft Sam Laporta in
Speaker 8: the last round, and everybody's gonna be like, oh, what
Speaker 8: do you know?
Speaker 3: And those off.
Speaker 8: So I like to keep those guys tucked away that
Speaker 8: I'm kind of targeting. But you know, everybody, for the
Speaker 8: most part, knows the main guys there. There's certain you know,
Speaker 8: I have certain opinions about certain guys, and you know,
Speaker 8: certain guys that I like that other guys may not like.
Speaker 8: And you know, me and me and we actually had
Speaker 8: a great conversation about a certain person that they all
Speaker 8: felt was number one overall. And you know, about this
Speaker 8: whole thing. If you know, how is this whole thing
Speaker 8: gonna happen? What you guys thinking, This is my thoughts,
Speaker 8: and it kind of solidifies and gets me ready for
Speaker 8: my draft.
Speaker 3: So this is gonna be a win win for me.
Speaker 6: Sam import a great example.
Speaker 9: Some takes are hot takes in August, they will not
Speaker 9: be hot takes come January.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for example, So you talk about, you know, watching
Speaker 2: and listening what happened last year the preseason with Sam Laporte.
Speaker 2: It kind of gets me to a headline I saw
Speaker 2: recently Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator now for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 2: sort of warning everybody about overreacting to what they see
Speaker 2: in the preseason, because, let's be honest, the Steelers offense
Speaker 2: has not been very good in the first couple of
Speaker 2: preseason games. Russell Wilson struggling, justin Field, struggling. Arthur Smith says,
Speaker 2: the preseason could distort reality. Now for you, you've been through
Speaker 2: training camps, you've been through preseason battles. How much do
Speaker 2: how much of what we see in the preseason does
Speaker 2: sort of carry over and how much is just team
Speaker 2: sort of trying to work out the bugs in that respect.
Speaker 8: Well, I think there's a big difference between preseason games
Speaker 8: and the preseason. So when I'm scouting from a fantasy
Speaker 8: football standpoint, I care more about what happens during training camp,
Speaker 8: preseason practices versus the game. The game is it's more vanilla,
Speaker 8: it's more basic, you know, just get out there, do
Speaker 8: their thing, and a lot of bad guys when they
Speaker 8: get out there and they have practices against the other teams,
Speaker 8: the practices against another team is a lot more competitive
Speaker 8: than the actual game. It's it's it's that's just the
Speaker 8: way it is in NFL. So that's why from from
Speaker 8: from a fantasy football standpoint, I'm watching the practices. I'm
Speaker 8: watching what the reporters are saying about certain practices. Who
Speaker 8: stood out in those practices, Who is to go through
Speaker 8: targets in those practices, you know, versus watching the games,
Speaker 8: and you know, basing my opinions off of the game.
Speaker 8: Because majority of those guys, who who are you going
Speaker 8: to You're gonna see in the fall, they're not going
Speaker 8: to play during the preseason, especially now with there are
Speaker 8: only being three pieces in games, they're not playing. So
Speaker 8: I don't really watch the games and hold a lot
Speaker 8: of weight over those, but the practices I'm definitely including
Speaker 8: to those.
Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta ask you, guys, I mean Florida,
Speaker 2: when obviously we spend a lot of time reading preseason reports,
Speaker 2: how much do you sort of buy in and how
Speaker 2: much do you just sort of say, okay, let's kind
Speaker 2: of pump the brakes on some of these things.
Speaker 9: Yeah, once to man tized, I think the practice goes
Speaker 9: a long way. And like Russell Wilson was not out
Speaker 9: there for a lot of practices this summer, so it's
Speaker 9: partially why the Steelers offense looked as bad as it did.
Speaker 9: To me, it's always about opportunity, Like if you're out
Speaker 9: there with the ones and maybe you're not doing a
Speaker 9: whole bunch, but like you're getting the snaps, you got
Speaker 9: some targets. That's what I ultimately care about. But when
Speaker 9: you look as bad as Pittsburgh did, I think you
Speaker 9: need to take somewhat notice, Like like they came out
Speaker 9: of that and we're like, oh, yeah, there is a
Speaker 9: quarterback camp battle, where up until this point we were like, oh,
Speaker 9: it's Russell Wilson's job. So yeah, not only did I
Speaker 9: have concern like the quarterback play if George Pickens gets
Speaker 9: that second foot down, I think we're talking about it
Speaker 9: a little differently. The offensive line was frocious, and that
Speaker 9: is somewhat concerning to me.
Speaker 2: I mean, Lakwan, when you look at this, does this
Speaker 2: make you worried about, say, hey, George Pickens or somebody
Speaker 2: in that offense.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, because you're looking at this offense and you're hoping
Speaker 5: that Russell Wilson gets a little bit more looser in
Speaker 5: that pocket, get more comfort. But how can you with
Speaker 5: that old line basically crashing down on him, Like we're
Speaker 5: not seeing the as mobile quarterback we've seen when he
Speaker 5: was with the Seahawks and a little bit with Denver.
Speaker 5: But it's like this offense as a whole in preseason
Speaker 5: just looked bad ultimately, So it's like one of those
Speaker 5: things that you do take notion, you do jot down,
Speaker 5: you take it a mental note, and hopefully he can elevate,
Speaker 5: you know, going into the regular season. But I do
Speaker 5: want to note that we did see Justin Fields play,
Speaker 5: and when we did see him play, it brung a
Speaker 5: little bit more out of this offense with his ability
Speaker 5: with his legs. But we still get the Justin Fields
Speaker 5: that we kind of know from Chicago. I mean, he
Speaker 5: had three fumbles in the two games of the preseason
Speaker 5: in three sacks that were kind of one of those
Speaker 5: sacks where he held onto the ball a little too long.
Speaker 5: So you're hoping that these guys can get these things
Speaker 5: together before going into the regular season. But I am
Speaker 5: a little bit concerned of what we did see from
Speaker 5: this preseason game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in on George Pickens. Worried about George Pickens.
Speaker 2: Now right now, he's the only real wide receiver they
Speaker 2: got Pat Fryarmu, there's no wide receiver too. I just
Speaker 2: wonder if defenses are going to try and take him away.
Speaker 9: Would you guys be as worried if he got that
Speaker 9: second foot down on what would have been like a
Speaker 9: fifty yard catch.
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I would be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, can I jump in guys? You know
Speaker 3: what makes me more anxious.
Speaker 8: I don't get anxious around the preseason struggles and training
Speaker 8: camp struggles. Really, what really gets me anxious is a
Speaker 8: elite neighbors situation. That gets me anxious because he as
Speaker 8: far as from what I've read and far as far
Speaker 8: as what I've seen, he has been the star in
Speaker 8: training camp as far as the draft picks are concerned. However,
Speaker 8: we go out there the first preseason game and he
Speaker 8: gets zero targets. So that type of situation for me,
Speaker 8: gives me more anxiety as a fantasy in football GM,
Speaker 8: whatever you want to call it. Then somebody like the
Speaker 8: Steeler situation. You know, you know that they have a
Speaker 8: first year, they have a new system going in, They
Speaker 8: have two quarterbacks that are trying to get used to
Speaker 8: the system. You know, they're they're they're they're kind of
Speaker 8: switching them in and out. So the relationships between receivers
Speaker 8: and running backs it's always constantly changing. But for me,
Speaker 8: I look at that type of situation and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 8: eventually they're going to choose a starter and when they do,
Speaker 8: that relationship and that report is going to build with
Speaker 8: you know, pick Ins and you know and company, whoever
Speaker 8: it is that's going to be behind at the center.
Speaker 8: And so you know, when I see those type of
Speaker 8: situations that you guys just pointed out, it doesn't really
Speaker 8: get me worried per se more than somebody who's having
Speaker 8: a great training camp.
Speaker 3: And then I know that.
Speaker 8: Okay, well it's still the Giants, Daniel Jones, you know,
Speaker 8: like I just don't.
Speaker 3: Know like that.
Speaker 8: That's that's the situation that gets me more more anxious
Speaker 8: than than the one with the Steelers, and they're not
Speaker 8: doing too well in the preseason.
Speaker 2: So for you, man, TI, is it about looking at,
Speaker 2: say the scheme and the whole the makeup of the offense,
Speaker 2: because I mean, we look a lot at talent, but
Speaker 2: I mean, you know this, everybody out there is talented, right,
Speaker 2: Everybody out there has excelled, whether it's in high school, college,
Speaker 2: what have you. So for you, is it really about
Speaker 2: sort of the coaching, the scheme and just sort of
Speaker 2: the the whole shape of the program when you look
Speaker 2: at this sort of thing.
Speaker 8: That's exactly what it is. For me, That's how I
Speaker 8: view it. It's where does this player fit in this scheme?
Speaker 8: How are they using him? I felt that, you know
Speaker 8: when Jamar Chase. I Jamar Chase was one of the
Speaker 8: first guys that I drafted my first year and I'm
Speaker 8: so grateful for it. But still back then two years ago,
Speaker 8: they were still using him as a Z receiver. There's
Speaker 8: still using him as a number one receiver that's far
Speaker 8: out wide, and if you think about it, just mathematically,
Speaker 8: it's and geometrically it's hard to throw that ball all
Speaker 8: the way out there on the sideline every single time. Well,
Speaker 8: last year they brought Jamar Chase and started moving him
Speaker 8: around a lot more.
Speaker 3: They started putting him in the slot. Keenan Allen is when.
Speaker 8: He was with the Chargers, he was unguardable wide because
Speaker 8: he's he's a slot receiver. When you're a slot receiver,
Speaker 8: you have so many different options. It's an easier pass
Speaker 8: for the quarterback to make. So when I see those
Speaker 8: types of guys in certain situations, I try to see
Speaker 8: how is he getting along with the quarterback? How is
Speaker 8: he used in this system? If he's an outside receiver
Speaker 8: but they're starting to move him around, that says a
Speaker 8: lot about how the team sees this player and how
Speaker 8: they could use them and put them in different situations. Uh,
Speaker 8: that's what I really look at, and I weigh heavily
Speaker 8: more than their skill set, because you could have a
Speaker 8: player back there that is extremely talented, but if they
Speaker 8: don't use them the right way, like case in point.
Speaker 8: Last year, I had Swift and I felt like Swift
Speaker 8: was a dynamic running back for the Eagles, but yeah,
Speaker 8: Jalen Hurns and they had the touch push.
Speaker 3: And taking six points. You go to you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 8: So I look, I definitely look at the fit and
Speaker 8: how guys fitting in schemes.
Speaker 2: You and me, We were the same with de Andre
Speaker 2: Swift last year. We were in the exact same boat
Speaker 2: with that last year. I was just getting started here.
Speaker 2: Happen to have man t tail on whether it's gonna
Speaker 2: take a break, come back, play a little bit of
Speaker 2: hype train or smoke screen. Got some headlines here, We'll
Speaker 2: try to figure out whether or not this is coach
Speaker 2: speak or if there's something behind it.
Speaker 4: That and a look toward preseason Week three.
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Speaker 2: Always like to play a little hype train or smoke
Speaker 2: screen because we are in the point of the season
Speaker 2: where you know, we hear quotes, we read stories, and
Speaker 2: sometimes it's coaches and players trying to talk themselves up.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's you know, maybe it is a little bit
Speaker 2: of the truth. But we'll kind of dive into that
Speaker 2: we happy to have man Ti say out whether you
Speaker 2: can see him on Good Morning Football on NFL Network
Speaker 2: all throughout the season. Also a recent addition to our
Speaker 2: fantasy family here. Finally he's a fantasy nerd just like us,
Speaker 2: so we're happy to have.
Speaker 4: Him on gener Degenerate. So Man Time. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: pretty simple here.
Speaker 2: I read a headline, maybe kind of set it up
Speaker 2: a little bit, and then you can help decide whether
Speaker 2: or not it's hype train, whether you really on board
Speaker 2: and you're buying into what they're saying, or if this
Speaker 2: is a smoke screen designed to sort of make us
Speaker 2: all feel better about the situation.
Speaker 4: So first one here, I'll start.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon, the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, talking
Speaker 2: about Kyler Murray, says he's leaps and bounds ahead of
Speaker 2: where he was last year, that he looks the quote
Speaker 2: is he looks damn good out there. We know obviously
Speaker 2: Kyler is talented, he's coming off of an injury, sort
Speaker 2: of trying to get himself back ready to go. So
Speaker 2: when you hear this, you're Jonathan Gannon say that are
Speaker 2: you buying it? Is it hype trained? Or is this
Speaker 2: him just sort of trying to talk his guy up
Speaker 2: a little bit. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 3: To all the guys who's in my fantasy football league,
Speaker 3: stop this segment right now.
Speaker 8: Because Kyler is one of those guys. For me, guy,
Speaker 8: I am bought into that hype train. I am totally
Speaker 8: bought it into Kyler Murray and his ability to produce
Speaker 8: year and in year out. He has Marvin Harrison Junior
Speaker 8: now who's become his go to his on a safety blanket.
Speaker 3: He also has Trey McBride, who's I think his named
Speaker 3: Trey McBride.
Speaker 4: Yep, that's it.
Speaker 8: One of the most reliable guys that he's found as
Speaker 8: of blate. And you know, you start, you start trickling
Speaker 8: in Michael Wilson and all of those guys.
Speaker 3: I really like.
Speaker 8: His hit, Kyler's Kyler's position, and I would love him
Speaker 8: to be my quarterback.
Speaker 3: And so I'm definitely wanting to that.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Michael Wilson, he mentioned I'm looking at you.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, Lakwan, because I know if there
Speaker 2: was a name, he didn't mention that. I know you
Speaker 2: want to get in there. So hype trader smoke screen
Speaker 2: and then you can talk about your dude too.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say hype trained. Okay, Like, what are we
Speaker 5: talking about here? There could be a case where Kinda
Speaker 5: Murray finishes in the top three quarterback this season. And
Speaker 5: here's why. Because of the weapons that he has on
Speaker 5: a perimeter and Trey McBride. And there's one guy, Manton.
Speaker 5: You did not mention I'm going to get you tickets
Speaker 5: to dortch Land because Greg dorg is a guy you
Speaker 5: have to remember.
Speaker 3: Here's my Jewela Kwan. I didn't mention the reason.
Speaker 4: All right, tickets.
Speaker 6: He's my bad bro.
Speaker 5: But we got to jump on this hype train just
Speaker 5: based on Kyler Murray where he could produce this for
Speaker 5: that offense, his rushing ability and extend to play. I mean,
Speaker 5: this is going to be a Marvin Harrison show, This
Speaker 5: is going to be a Greg Dorge show. This is
Speaker 5: going to be a Trade McBride show. And what I
Speaker 5: mean by that, they're gonna be able to distribute this
Speaker 5: ball and have this offense to be able to convert
Speaker 5: on third down. Have guys that are reliable, because we
Speaker 5: have to remember with DeAndre Hopkins, with Marquise Brown, these
Speaker 5: guys were always banged up and around the time where
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray needed them the most. Greg Dortch was the
Speaker 5: guy to step up and be able to produce some points.
Speaker 5: So I definitely like how this offense is looking this season.
Speaker 5: And then I didn't even mention the backfield yet. I mean,
Speaker 5: James Connor has been nothing but a producer, and then
Speaker 5: they go out there and get Trey Bnson. This guy
Speaker 5: is always in the trenches, moving defeat, breaking the tackles,
Speaker 5: and he has the ability to take home. I am
Speaker 5: all in on Kyler Murray in twenty twenty four. How
Speaker 5: you feel about Kyler Murray this year.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna not only every reason that these guys said
Speaker 9: that I love Kyler Murray, but I think situationally, there's
Speaker 9: so many reasons to love him. Like he is back
Speaker 9: from the ACL injury now. He himself said last year
Speaker 9: he had difficulty like fully trusting his knee and maybe
Speaker 9: that's something that MATTSI could speak on even more. But
Speaker 9: that's something we hear players talk about a lot, like
Speaker 9: when you first come back from an injury. A lot
Speaker 9: of it is just like regaining trust and all of that.
Speaker 9: So I expect Kyler Murray to run more but even
Speaker 9: more than that. Last year, he didn't play until Week ten.
Speaker 9: It was his first time with a new coordinator in
Speaker 9: the NFL, like he had Cliff Kingsbury every year up
Speaker 9: until that, So he was learning a new offense or
Speaker 9: at least executing a new offense for the first time. Plus,
Speaker 9: like Michael Wilson was routinely hurt late in the year,
Speaker 9: Marquise Brown was in and out of the lineup, and
Speaker 9: when he played, he was playing more of a decoy role.
Speaker 9: He was really going out there with Drey McBride and
Speaker 9: like Greg Dortch, And that's kind of it. Now he's
Speaker 9: got some more pieces. He's got the big piece in
Speaker 9: Arvin Harrison junior. Yeah, I think, And and the Cardinals
Speaker 9: defense was awful last year. They gave him a ton
Speaker 9: of points, which would mean even more throwing and even
Speaker 9: more dropbacks because more dropbacks for Kyler means more scrambling.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to ask you about that, man Tip,
Speaker 2: because you obviously you had a couple of injuries in
Speaker 2: your career. You had an achilles injury, you had some
Speaker 2: other like ankle and foot injuries. How much of it,
Speaker 2: Obviously there's a physical part of that into rehabbing. But
Speaker 2: how much of coming back is just sort of mental
Speaker 2: and being able to trust your body again.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's that's the second half of the battle, right,
Speaker 8: Like it's one to repair the physical what the physical injury,
Speaker 8: but then there's a mental aspect of man, I don't
Speaker 8: know if I can trust this. You know, you start
Speaker 8: to go to some PTSD. Man, the last time I
Speaker 8: stepped like this, this is what happened. And that's what
Speaker 8: happened when I tore my achilles. I told my achilles
Speaker 8: in twenty sixteen. I played a twenty seventeen season, had
Speaker 8: a great season, but I still wasn't moving the way
Speaker 8: I was that I wanted to move. There's always that
Speaker 8: thought and back of your head, like, man, what if
Speaker 8: this thing happened again. But then when I came in
Speaker 8: the second year, the confidence was there. I was slighter,
Speaker 8: I was stronger. I had a whole off season to prepare.
Speaker 8: I was with the new team for the second year.
Speaker 8: So it's a lot like Kyler, if you know, he's
Speaker 8: had a whole year to kind of fiel it out
Speaker 8: to train. He's been under the same system for a
Speaker 8: second year, so you know, it's I'm really excited. And
Speaker 8: obviously I brought to the hype trained with Kyler and
Speaker 8: all the tools, and you know, thanks to Lakwana of
Speaker 8: exposing my.
Speaker 4: Reason why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the reason why I.
Speaker 8: Really liked dors was because I really liked Rondell Moore,
Speaker 8: and Rondell Moore great, Dorsch plays that position that he played,
Speaker 8: that's that slot position. And I feel like when you
Speaker 8: have a guy like Marvin Harrison Junior who's going to
Speaker 8: attract so much attention, you can need a guy in
Speaker 8: the slot that when those hot routes comes and that
Speaker 8: he needs to hit him. He had he's able to
Speaker 8: do that, and Rondell Moore was able to do to
Speaker 8: do that for the Cardinals the past two years. And
Speaker 8: now Greg Dortch is in there and I've heard nothing about.
Speaker 3: Anything, but I've heard all positive.
Speaker 8: News about him, and now that he's number four, I
Speaker 8: hope everybody kind of forgets about him and I can
Speaker 8: pick him up late in the round.
Speaker 3: But because of la kwand earlier.
Speaker 4: Well, well, we'll.
Speaker 2: Work on trying to either get this part cut out
Speaker 2: or we'll make it like subscription. We'll make a subscription
Speaker 2: subscription only. Yeah, that folks, after I pay. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: an exclusive. We have to pay for it to get
Speaker 2: these to get these tips. But while we're on the
Speaker 2: subject of guys coming back from injury, Tim Patrick with
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. Uh looked like he was really ready
Speaker 2: about to take off. And then a couple of years ago, Uh,
Speaker 2: he had a a an achilles injury or acl injury.
Speaker 2: Then he followed up with an achilles injury. So it's
Speaker 2: been two years of sort of bouncing back. Uh, he's
Speaker 2: on his way back. He's played well in the preseason,
Speaker 2: and he says, quote, you guys haven't seen anything yet.
Speaker 2: So Manti, when you talk about, you know, the Broncos offense, Uh,
Speaker 2: Tim Patrick specifically maybe the Broncos offense, are you buying in?
Speaker 2: Is this a hype train on on what you think
Speaker 2: the Broncos can be? Which side notes to that they
Speaker 2: officially named Bo Knicks as their starting quarterback. I don't
Speaker 2: know that's a big surprise. But where are you on
Speaker 2: this Broncos offense this year?
Speaker 3: I'm definitely bought in.
Speaker 8: Why because Sean Payton was my head coach for three
Speaker 8: years with the Saints and and the question with with
Speaker 8: Patrick is who's going to fill that Michael Thomas role.
Speaker 8: That's always the when you understand how Sean Payton structures
Speaker 8: his offense, he literally has an idea of how he
Speaker 8: wants his offense to be run, and then he just
Speaker 8: grabs body types and puts them in situations. And so
Speaker 8: you're always gonna need a Michael Thomas kind of kind
Speaker 8: of kind of guy. And then you think, Okay, who's
Speaker 8: the who's the Alvin Camorrow guy? Okay, I know who
Speaker 8: that is with McLaughlin, you know. So I really am
Speaker 8: bought into the Denver Broncos and that hype train. You
Speaker 8: watch how bow Knicks played last week, Man, let me
Speaker 8: tell you, like it was hard to come off to
Speaker 8: Drake me like hype train when he played last week.
Speaker 8: But then bo Nix goes out there and does what
Speaker 8: he does. You know, So there's a lot of great
Speaker 8: options for fantasy football owners. I'm late in the draft.
Speaker 8: You know, there's there's talks about, man, I can just
Speaker 8: I can just push the quarterback off till later in
Speaker 8: the draft, you know, because there's so many people there.
Speaker 8: But I'm definitely in on the Denver Broncos and you know,
Speaker 8: Tim Patrick and doing his thing yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, Flora, Look, I'm with Manta. I watched bow
Speaker 2: Knicks last week and I thought, Man, I'm really encouraged
Speaker 2: by what I saw. I'm really excited about this Broncos offense.
Speaker 2: I mean, Tim Patrick seemed like he was ready to
Speaker 2: make the leap, then had back to back years where
Speaker 2: he missed the season because of injuries. I mean, I guess, specifically,
Speaker 2: are you back in on Tim Patrick generally?
Speaker 4: Though? Are you? Are you higher now on the Broncos
Speaker 4: than you were earlier.
Speaker 9: I'm definitely higher on the Broncos offense than I was earlier.
Speaker 9: I'm not fully I'll say this is a hype train,
Speaker 9: but I'm like kind of reluctant to buy tickets to
Speaker 9: it makes sense.
Speaker 6: I like Tim Patrick, but.
Speaker 4: Like he's riding stand by on the pipe train, I.
Speaker 3: Gotta see it.
Speaker 9: Like what I loved is that not only did Bo
Speaker 9: Nix look amazing, Tim Patrick was his top target. He
Speaker 9: threw him four different times, but Nicks was spreading the
Speaker 9: ball out a lot. That is something that we see
Speaker 9: sometimes out of Sean Payton's offense. Patrick before the injuries
Speaker 9: was always like a seven hundred yard, six to seven
Speaker 9: touchdown guy. If he can get to that again, he
Speaker 9: will be very fantasy relevant. I just have questions will
Speaker 9: he be able to take a bigger step than that,
Speaker 9: because there's still guys like Court and Sutton there. The
Speaker 9: running back is gonna be heavily involved. Greg Doltrich is
Speaker 9: becoming a tight end sleeper now, so I think he's
Speaker 9: more one of those names that will be really useful
Speaker 9: as like a bye week injury replacement. You could grab
Speaker 9: him off the waiverard. What he has done, though, is
Speaker 9: he's made me firmly stop drafting taking late round darthros On,
Speaker 9: Marvin Mims, and Troy Franklin.
Speaker 6: I thought those guys might be the two. It is
Speaker 6: clearly Tim pat.
Speaker 4: He was gonna ask Lakwan who is the number two
Speaker 4: target in Denver?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: Is it Patrick? Is that somebody else?
Speaker 5: I mean it could be Patrick, And I want to
Speaker 5: say that I'm on the hype train. I have never
Speaker 5: left the Tim Patrick hype train. And I mean, if
Speaker 5: we go back to twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: And twenty, it was in the shop for two years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, I was at the last stop Wight.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be at the last stop again because if
Speaker 5: we look back to twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5: If I told you he led the Devon Broncinson touchdowns
Speaker 5: back to back seasons, you wouldn't believe me because it's
Speaker 5: like one of those things that flew under the radar.
Speaker 5: He's a seven hundred guy. But I feel like with
Speaker 5: this offense with bow Knicks and how he's able to
Speaker 5: create these scoring drives. You look at twenty twenty to
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, he had twenty one red zone targets.
Speaker 5: He's a huge threat. This is a big target for
Speaker 5: bow Knicks where he can make these situations, and Tim
Speaker 5: Patrick could be a guy that can find the end
Speaker 5: zone more times than not. I mean, look, he's a
Speaker 5: best ball guy. But I'm actually like, if you're in
Speaker 5: a deeper league, man, stashing Tim Patrick could be a
Speaker 5: nice play here because the guy is going to end
Speaker 5: up being such a huge red zone threat for bow
Speaker 5: Knicks if he's going to be able to go down
Speaker 5: to go down and create these scoring drives.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Toto Manti's point too, is Sean Payton's offense. I know
Speaker 2: they were last year. They struggled last year. I have
Speaker 2: a hard time believing that that offense is going to
Speaker 2: be as bad a second year in a row. Now
Speaker 2: that he's able to kind of work some of his
Speaker 2: uh his schemes in there, get some of his guys
Speaker 2: in there, I think it's going to.
Speaker 4: Be a better offense last one.
Speaker 2: Robert Salad, the head coach of the New York Jets,
Speaker 2: talking about their rookie running back Braylan Allen, says he
Speaker 2: is quote and all around good back. Now, MAN'SI obviously
Speaker 2: Breece Hall is there and looked great last year. He
Speaker 2: is the lead running back in that offense. Are you
Speaker 2: buying that Braylan Allen can have a role or is
Speaker 2: this just a coach sort of like praising a rookie
Speaker 2: early on in his career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's smoke screen to me. You know, you don't.
Speaker 8: It's it's it's encouragement for his player, you know, it's
Speaker 8: it's it's showing his support. But remember, like we're looking
Speaker 8: at looking at it from a fantasy football perspective. You know,
Speaker 8: it's like, yeah, well he probably get in there. Yeah,
Speaker 8: he probably getting there, you know to to spell spell
Speaker 8: priest help. But than that, it's the briest Hall, the
Speaker 8: priests Hall show. Like there's there's no way with his production,
Speaker 8: especially you know him him coming off of injury last
Speaker 8: year and you know, started a little tight, and then
Speaker 8: towards the second half of the season, a guy just
Speaker 8: broke out and I didn't have him. Matter of fact,
Speaker 8: I was a victim of brines Hall just going off
Speaker 8: against the Washington Commanders, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, I'm throwing him at all.
Speaker 8: Please, I'm throwing him these checkdowns describing me nuts and
Speaker 8: so it's all smoke to me. You know, briest Haw's back, there,
Speaker 8: got Aaron Rodgers back. You know, you have Wilson on
Speaker 8: the outside. Yeah, it's it's just encouragement for his young
Speaker 8: his young player, and you know, we'll leave it at that.
Speaker 3: But it's a briefs fall.
Speaker 4: Show for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lakwan is, is Briylan Allen anything more than a handcuff?
Speaker 2: Does he have standalone value at this point?
Speaker 5: I don't even know if we can call him a handcuff.
Speaker 5: He's like a watchless guy. I mean, you're watching and monitoring,
Speaker 5: and obviously he will be a guy that you won't
Speaker 5: want to pick up if bries Hall suffered injury. But
Speaker 5: I don't see anything fantasy relevant on a week to
Speaker 5: week basis for him to get into starting lineups. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's unfortunate because he's a great talent. I mean, I
Speaker 5: like everything that I'm seeing from in preseason, But like
Speaker 5: Manti said, it's the Breese Hall show until it isn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, so last year Floria was looking Dalvin Cook
Speaker 2: got about four to five carries a game as the
Speaker 2: backup there with the Jets. Is that about what you
Speaker 2: expect for Braylan Allen? Could he possibly carve out more
Speaker 2: than that?
Speaker 9: I think he'll get more than that because the Jets
Speaker 9: offense will be better, so they'll just have longer drives
Speaker 9: where maybe, but I think Braylan Allen there's one area
Speaker 9: where he could be a huge thorn in the side.
Speaker 9: He could be the goal on runner potentially because he's
Speaker 9: built like Derrick Henry. But look, Briest all had one
Speaker 9: goal on carry last year. Now granted that was half
Speaker 9: of the Jets goal on carries, but still they.
Speaker 6: Had to But I'm just like, hey, maybe they chose.
Speaker 9: They decide we want to keep Breeze Hall fresh and
Speaker 9: we don't want him taking those hits. But yeah, I
Speaker 9: think he's nothing more than a handcuff. But I did
Speaker 9: like him as a player coming out during the draft process. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I liked him too. I liked him in college. But
Speaker 9: I'm kind of with you, guys. I don't know that
Speaker 9: there's enough opportunity there to make it sort of sort
Speaker 9: of worthwhile.
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Speaker 2: we still have another week of preseason games. We're gonna
Speaker 2: take a quick break dive into preseason week three, and
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see if Manti has any more
Speaker 2: gyms he wants to unearth. Otherwise we'll try to ask
Speaker 2: him some other fantasy related questions. Manti tale sitting in
Speaker 2: with us here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It's
Speaker 2: time to drive your Draft, presented by the all new
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Speaker 2: I guess this is where I should be a company
Speaker 2: guy and tell you that you can watch all these
Speaker 2: games on NFL Network starting on Thursday night, the Bears
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. In fact, there is a quadruple header
Speaker 2: on Saturday, and then then things wrap up on the
Speaker 2: network on Sunday e or Sunday morning, I should say
Speaker 2: Sunday morning, I guess Pacific time, Sunday afternoon Eastern time
Speaker 2: with the Titans and the Saints. But of course, over
Speaker 2: the course of the week, you can see every single
Speaker 2: preseason game on NFL networks.
Speaker 4: Will be sure to check that out.
Speaker 2: Man t Tao hanging out with us here as we
Speaker 2: dive into the third week of the preseason. And so, Matt,
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, because the last week of
Speaker 2: the preseason, we live in a world now where starters
Speaker 2: are playing fewer and fewer snaps. Anyway, certainly last week
Speaker 2: of the preseason, teams are starting to just make sure
Speaker 2: that all their guys are rested and protected, put them
Speaker 2: in a bubble as much as they possibly can. What
Speaker 2: should we be looking for in a week like this?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know there are a lot of guys
Speaker 2: still trying to kind of fight for their football lives
Speaker 2: and make rosters. What sort of things are you paying
Speaker 2: attention to in the final week of the preseason.
Speaker 8: Well, I think it's a team by team basis. You know,
Speaker 8: there's some teams or some coaches that like they like
Speaker 8: to have their players play a little bit of that
Speaker 8: last game, so there's a momentum going into the season.
Speaker 8: There's other teams that they don't want to play their guys.
Speaker 8: They want to make sure that the guys arrested, they're fresh.
Speaker 8: They they'll probably really really hammer them during the week
Speaker 8: in practice, but say, hey, listen, we're doing this so
Speaker 8: when the game comes, you're not playing. So it's a
Speaker 8: team by team basis. For me, at the end of
Speaker 8: the day, understanding what training camp is all about from
Speaker 8: a team standpoint is their ability to critique their talent
Speaker 8: and get those rosters down. So, you know, keeping that
Speaker 8: in mind, I like to look at, okay, what teams
Speaker 8: you know, before the game starts, what teams are planning
Speaker 8: on playing their starters, and even if the starters play,
Speaker 8: you won't really see them playing a whole lot. It's
Speaker 8: it's really the last chance for guys who are on
Speaker 8: that that that cusp to make make the team or not.
Speaker 8: So you know, as as as we get further and
Speaker 8: further into the preseason, it starts to get more I
Speaker 8: don't really watch from that's right, like the guys that
Speaker 8: are playing, but that the starters do play for a
Speaker 8: number of series. I'll kind of watch and tune into
Speaker 8: that because you can kind of get a good taste
Speaker 8: of what that team's going to look like.
Speaker 3: And then you you you.
Speaker 8: Make your picks, and then when the season season starts,
Speaker 8: you roll. But the a's a team by team basis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, guys, I know that you know,
Speaker 2: we've already heard from a lot of teams that they're
Speaker 2: not going to play their starters. You know, I know
Speaker 2: Chiefs Bears is on our network. I would be very
Speaker 2: surprised if we see Caleb Williams or Romo Dunes anybody
Speaker 2: like that. I don't expect we're going to see Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes throwing behind the back passes this week.
Speaker 4: It's three.
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you, man, I want to
Speaker 2: ask you about this, right, because here you are. If
Speaker 2: you are, say a linebacker, you're trying to make your roster, right,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the two time MVP is
Speaker 2: throwing behind the back passes, right, you're just trying to
Speaker 2: read your keys. How frustrating is that if you're a
Speaker 2: defender trying to trying to deal with something like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's almost it's a big disc you know, honestly,
Speaker 8: you know, it's just like the game is.
Speaker 3: So easy to you that you're gonna do that, you know.
Speaker 3: And if I'm if I'm a veteran on.
Speaker 8: The other side, like I'm just like talking to my
Speaker 8: young cats and like, bro, you better go hit the guy,
Speaker 8: like I don't know.
Speaker 7: What, Like, don't do guy's living counting on it.
Speaker 8: He threw up behind the back pass in the middle
Speaker 8: of the game, and then in his in the side
Speaker 8: of my interview, you know, kind of looked at it
Speaker 8: as if it was a mistake and it kind of
Speaker 8: happened like Patrick clips of you during practice that whole
Speaker 8: week practicing behind the back pass.
Speaker 3: So it was planned to a certain degree.
Speaker 8: But at the same time, if I'm a linebacker on
Speaker 8: the other side, I'm gonna get my revenge some way,
Speaker 8: Shap Pat.
Speaker 3: Trick or whoever the next quarterback is.
Speaker 8: You know, it's it's it has to happen at when
Speaker 8: he's just trying you at that point.
Speaker 4: You know, that was my.
Speaker 9: Thing too, Like I get you can't be like, all right,
Speaker 9: this is what I'm gonna throw the behind the back.
Speaker 9: It's gonna kind of be like, oh, but it wasn't
Speaker 9: done out of spite like he was doing it.
Speaker 6: He knew what he was doing the highlight, he knew
Speaker 6: it was good.
Speaker 9: They've been practicing this for years apparently, just own it
Speaker 9: like yo, I'm better than you.
Speaker 3: That's it basically what it is.
Speaker 8: It was just like you can't you can barely throw
Speaker 8: the pass forward and I'm going behind my back.
Speaker 3: I left, and then during.
Speaker 8: The Super Bowl I literally threw a parallel to the
Speaker 8: ground like I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Everything that you can't that you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: And so it's just one of those Patrick Mahomes things, Like,
Speaker 8: you know, one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever played,
Speaker 8: definitely the greatest quarterback in this generation. You know, he's
Speaker 8: just doing stuff that's just unheard of. I've never seen
Speaker 8: somebody throw the ball in a game behind his back.
Speaker 3: It's just unheard of.
Speaker 5: What's next?
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing we also, though, have We
Speaker 2: now have a generation of quarterbacks who's gonna grow up
Speaker 2: watching Patrick Mahomes is gonna start working on these things
Speaker 2: and like so like I I sort of wait with
Speaker 2: anticipation and with a little bit of dread to like
Speaker 2: my kid gets old enough.
Speaker 4: So I can be like, you.
Speaker 2: Didn't you should have seen Patrick Mahomes doing that, and
Speaker 2: he's gonna be like, all right, dad man, that's enough, right,
Speaker 2: Like you know, like like we're gonna have quarterbacks doing
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff all the time. I'll talk about
Speaker 2: how Patrick Mahomes was special and and my kid is
Speaker 2: gonna be like, yeah, you're dad, ever go away, right.
Speaker 9: Holmes and Steph Curry, those are two that are like,
Speaker 9: you have to come, you have.
Speaker 4: To be there.
Speaker 2: Tho, it's the natural evolution of things, without a doubt.
Speaker 2: So A Manti talked about kind of what he was
Speaker 2: looking for in the fact that there's not quite as
Speaker 2: much obviously to watch from a fantasy perspective in the
Speaker 2: rest of the preseason. But for you guys, I mean Florida,
Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Is there anybody in particular, any
Speaker 2: team in particular you'd like to see?
Speaker 4: It was a little bit more from before the season starts.
Speaker 6: The Patriots.
Speaker 9: I really like what the Patriots have been doing in
Speaker 9: the sense of, like when it's Jacobe persseat out there,
Speaker 9: we're gonna give you kJ Osborne and Damario Douglass and
Speaker 9: these veteran guys.
Speaker 6: But when it's Drake May.
Speaker 9: You're going out there with Jalen Polk and Javon Baker
Speaker 9: the future at this position here, and I want to
Speaker 9: see more. Look, I'm a Javon Baker stan. I want
Speaker 9: to see him show out. But I really think what
Speaker 9: they're doing is they're being like you three going to
Speaker 9: learn together and develop together, and uh Brissett and the
Speaker 9: veterans will hold it down early on. But when we
Speaker 9: make this switch, I don't think it's just a quarterback switch.
Speaker 9: I think we're gonna get the wide receivers the young
Speaker 9: guys playing with Drake May as well. So I kind
Speaker 9: of like that, like let them get all of those
Speaker 9: reps in preseason and in practice together, knowing that at
Speaker 9: some point this year there's going to be a youth
Speaker 9: takeover in New England.
Speaker 4: Anybody any other team that you want to keep an
Speaker 4: eye on the corn.
Speaker 5: Well, there's a couple players, and I would like to
Speaker 5: see more of the tight ports. No all, you need
Speaker 5: to seen enough.
Speaker 6: We've seen enough.
Speaker 4: We're not.
Speaker 5: Right now, but I would love to see more of
Speaker 5: the tight ends Pauls, but I would like to see
Speaker 5: Kate Stover, Ben Sennen, John new Smith like I want
Speaker 5: to see more of these guys get more involved, and
Speaker 5: Ben Sennen's one that I really want to focus in on.
Speaker 5: I'm going to see him get more reps because he
Speaker 5: is truly a threat in the middle of the field
Speaker 5: and he brings some attitude after to catch as well.
Speaker 5: And I know zach Ertz is there, but I really
Speaker 5: think he's there more so is a mentor to install
Speaker 5: the offense because he's very familiar with Cliff Kingsbury's offense.
Speaker 5: So I think guys like Ben Senna I just want
Speaker 5: to see get a little bit more involved before we
Speaker 5: get into the season, just so I can have that
Speaker 5: confidence in drafting him in some of these leagues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of you know, kind of number
Speaker 2: three receivers I want to keep an eye on, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know how much we'll see Jermaine Burton necessarily
Speaker 2: with the Bengals, but I kind of want to see
Speaker 2: how they're using him. I want to see Jayleen McMillan
Speaker 2: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as well. We know Mike Evans,
Speaker 2: we know Chris Godwin. McMillan sort of has a role
Speaker 2: I think potentially in the future, and I kind of
Speaker 2: want to keep an eye on sort of what he does.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much or if at all, will
Speaker 2: see these guys, but it's just sort.
Speaker 4: Of my own little personal wish list. And I good.
Speaker 6: I think that's what week three is four right of
Speaker 6: the preseason.
Speaker 9: It's not for guys that you're gonna be drafting and
Speaker 9: starting week one.
Speaker 6: It's for like week ten.
Speaker 9: When all these injuries are had I and you're like, oh,
Speaker 9: I remember Tommy DeVito that yeah.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: So man, TI, I know you you've mentioned a couple
Speaker 4: of guys that you like.
Speaker 2: I don't want you to reveal your whole hand here
Speaker 2: for anybody who might be watching or listening to the show,
Speaker 2: So I will ask you this, Are there guys that
Speaker 2: maybe you're a little bit concerned about, that maybe you're
Speaker 2: staying away from. And look, you can, obviously, if you
Speaker 2: want to use this time to throw out a few
Speaker 2: red herrings to maybe scare off some of your.
Speaker 4: League mates, you can certainly do that.
Speaker 2: But it just any guys that maybe like the offense
Speaker 2: or the situation makes you a little bit nervous this year.
Speaker 8: Well, I told LaQuan about this, and I actually asked
Speaker 8: him about it. I had the first pick in one
Speaker 8: of my leagues, and I hate the first pick.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I hate the first pick.
Speaker 8: And so that that that goes to tell you, I
Speaker 8: am very, very afraid of Christian McCaffrey going into this
Speaker 8: year understanding the workload that he got last year. Understanding
Speaker 8: you know that they might they may or may not
Speaker 8: have Brendan Nyoku, who is kind of like that, that reliever.
Speaker 8: I know they have Deebo, but Diebo is kind of
Speaker 8: like Christian, so they kind of do the same thing.
Speaker 3: You know, they have Kitto there. Rock Party didn't.
Speaker 8: Really have a good showing last game against the Saints,
Speaker 8: and just the injuries I think besides the Niners, the
Speaker 8: Dolphins were also the other team that had a lot
Speaker 8: of injuries going into this year. Christian has a calf
Speaker 8: thing that he's dealing with. I had a calf thing
Speaker 8: before I had and I don't even want to say
Speaker 8: my injury because I don't even want to send that
Speaker 8: energy his way.
Speaker 3: I wanted him to have a healthy.
Speaker 8: Year, but that that pick scared me as the number
Speaker 8: one pick, and so I actually traded out of that
Speaker 8: pick to go to the twelfth pick.
Speaker 3: So I got. I got the.
Speaker 8: Pick that I wanted, but it had it mainly was
Speaker 8: because I was really concerned about Christian McCaffrey being there.
Speaker 8: And when you guys, know, when you have the first
Speaker 8: overall pick, it's like the NFL Draft. If you don't
Speaker 8: get it right, you're pick to pick twenty five. So
Speaker 8: it's like you better get this thing right. And I
Speaker 8: just was. I was too concerned about that number on
Speaker 8: an overall pick, and so I traded back and now
Speaker 8: I'm in a lot better position. But Christian McCaffrey different
Speaker 8: definitely is somebody that you know I'm watching and I
Speaker 8: was concerned about.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you because you mentioned Brandon Ayuk, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's still working out his contract situation. We
Speaker 2: got Cde Lamb holding out, Jamar Chase holding out. At
Speaker 2: what point should we be worried about these guys who
Speaker 2: are holding out? I mean, we are about two weeks
Speaker 2: away from the season starting. When does it become an
Speaker 2: issue for you?
Speaker 3: What? I think it depends?
Speaker 8: Right, So, it seems like Cde's situation is about to
Speaker 8: figure itself out, and I think we all can agree
Speaker 8: that if the Cowboys don't figure it out, soon they're
Speaker 8: going to have to figure it out the hard way
Speaker 8: because without CD Lamb they really have nobody else. So
Speaker 8: that's going to figure itself out. Now, Brandon ni Yok
Speaker 8: situations is a little different. They keep going back and forth.
Speaker 8: You know, first it was that the the Niners are
Speaker 8: trying to trade him to the Browns, the Patriots, or
Speaker 8: the Steelers, and then the Steelers were out, and then
Speaker 8: you know, so it keeps going back and forth. I
Speaker 8: think what's happening as we get later into this preseason
Speaker 8: and getting into the season, the likelihood of him staying
Speaker 8: in San Francisco seems to be the case because at
Speaker 8: this point, you're not going to go to a new
Speaker 8: place this late in the in the preseason. You know,
Speaker 8: then you have to go there, you have to learn
Speaker 8: a whole new system. You're going to be handcuffed because
Speaker 8: the restrictions with your your familiarity with the with the
Speaker 8: play calling, the teammates and all of that stuff. So
Speaker 8: I'm putting my chips on the fact that Brendan Nyuk
Speaker 8: is going to remain San Francisco forty nine er. But again,
Speaker 8: it's all based on the situations. So for all the
Speaker 8: fantasy football owners, you really got to pay attention to
Speaker 8: the narrative that's being played out, not only by the media,
Speaker 8: but also what's being said by the athlete. You know,
Speaker 8: the LOL period by CD Lamb a few weeks ago
Speaker 8: was a little alarming. Now lower Jerry Jones is that
Speaker 8: in his tone about how he addresses the whole CD
Speaker 8: Lamb situation. It seems like they're in a very good
Speaker 8: situation position now. But again, just stay very very close
Speaker 8: to those narratives and I think.
Speaker 3: You'll be okay.
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, I know a lot of folks are
Speaker 4: worried about about that. Go ahead.
Speaker 9: I was going back to CMC real quick. I know
Speaker 9: you're worried about him for the calf and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: But one thing I don't think gets a lot of
Speaker 9: talking points, at least this summer is, if you include
Speaker 9: the playoffs, CMC's coming off of career high touches and
Speaker 9: the season went until February. So, as a former player,
Speaker 9: is do either of those things like do they are
Speaker 9: they real? Like you had so many touches next year
Speaker 9: you might feel the effect of it and your season
Speaker 9: ended six weeks.
Speaker 6: Later than most of the players did. Does that have
Speaker 6: an effect on you the next year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that definitely has an effect, especially his position.
Speaker 8: You know, being the running back and the running back
Speaker 8: for Kyle Shanahan's offense, you're getting the ball all the time.
Speaker 8: And the thing about being the running back is you're
Speaker 8: going to get hit every single play. And I know
Speaker 8: that early in Christian's career, he you know, he was
Speaker 8: dealing with a lot of injuries and you know, they
Speaker 8: just keep adding up. And it's not like the NFC
Speaker 8: West plays soft brand of football. You know, you got
Speaker 8: the Seattle Seahawks in there, you got the La Brands there,
Speaker 8: you got you know, the Arizona Cardinals in there. They
Speaker 8: all play really good defense. And I think, you know,
Speaker 8: the Cardinals defense is going to get better. But when
Speaker 8: you're Christian McCaffrey and you're you're the focal point of
Speaker 8: that offense, man, there's only so many punches that you
Speaker 8: can take till your body is like, okay.
Speaker 3: I'm done. You know, I'm so uh.
Speaker 8: Yeah that the injury part of that of Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 8: you know, besides his his past, it's just the amount
Speaker 8: of work that he gets in that system. It's you know,
Speaker 8: whether he gets injured or whether they have to really
Speaker 8: take it off on the amount of targets that he gets.
Speaker 8: It's not in the best such the situation for me
Speaker 8: as a fantasy football owner. So that's why I'm kind
Speaker 8: of hesitating about that.
Speaker 5: That was a great point that you brought up about
Speaker 5: leading the league in touches, because that's kind of how
Speaker 5: he exited Carolina twenty nineteen. He led it with four
Speaker 5: hundred and three and then those final and two seasons
Speaker 5: he only played ten games and then he was off
Speaker 5: to San Francisco. So we might be sitting in that
Speaker 5: exact situation now, not the point where he's going to
Speaker 5: get shipped outside of San Francisco, but where that wear
Speaker 5: and tearror is going to start catching up and we're
Speaker 5: seeing in in this offseason. I mean, the guy just
Speaker 5: had a wedding too. He's not really like in football.
Speaker 4: He's a family man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying it's like we all know, like.
Speaker 4: Eight bro, he's a fan.
Speaker 3: I'm a Rams fan.
Speaker 5: I me and Marcus go back each and every week.
Speaker 4: Man, I do know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you've been a big Jordan Mason
Speaker 2: guy too. And on the table, there's definitely there's definitely
Speaker 2: a I think a path where we see more Jordan
Speaker 2: Mason just because the forty nine ers look, we want
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey get all the touches for our fantasy team.
Speaker 2: But Kyle Shanahan knows he needs to keep McCaffrey healthy
Speaker 2: for January and February, so they might sort of maybe
Speaker 2: ease off a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think I think many.
Speaker 2: I think you're not alone in your line of thinking
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Speaker 2: slash camera nanty. This has been great, man. We appreciate
Speaker 2: you hanging out with us. When can we see I
Speaker 2: know you're gonna be on on Good Morning Football. When
Speaker 2: the next time we can maybe see you out here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I fly out on Sunday.
Speaker 8: I'll be there for a majority of the week, but
Speaker 8: you know, I'm always in the building when I'm there.
Speaker 8: Lacwan knows like I kind of just hang out and
Speaker 8: then I head back to the hotel to get ready
Speaker 8: for the next day. But I'll be there I think
Speaker 8: after our last Good Morning Football segment that I was on,
Speaker 8: it went very very well.
Speaker 3: So the network is trying to get me out there
Speaker 3: a lot more. And I'm excited about that because now.
Speaker 8: I can get involved in a whole bunch of different things,
Speaker 8: you know, especially in NFL fantasy, and.
Speaker 3: So I would love to be on the show while
Speaker 3: I'm there in LA.
Speaker 8: You know, let me know what we can do and
Speaker 8: we'll I definitely love having these conversations because it helps
Speaker 8: me identify some people and then hopefully, you know, doesn't
Speaker 8: just keep spilling the.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. I promised I won't.
Speaker 3: To be there. Bro.
Speaker 4: I would say this from our side.
Speaker 2: The door is always open, man, whenever you want to
Speaker 2: come by, we would. We would love to have you.
Speaker 2: It's been great having you on the show. Best of
Speaker 2: luck this season, man. You know you gep Us posted
Speaker 2: how those teams?
Speaker 6: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 8: Well you guys will know because if I come to
Speaker 8: work one morning and I'm not talking to nobody.
Speaker 2: Exactly some time, fantastic, uh there, you know many I
Speaker 2: appreciate him stopping by as well. Be sure to check
Speaker 2: him out on Good Morning Football in the meantime.
Speaker 4: For us.
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