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Speaker 1: October six, twenty thirteen, pay Corps Stadium, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Ohio, with twenty six seconds lift, the Bengals lead the

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Speaker 2: Patriots thirteen.

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Speaker 1: To six, but Brady's driving he drops back to pass.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, this is the white Zimber make it rain game.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Games with Names of production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games

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Speaker 1: with Names. Today, we have a very special guest to

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Speaker 1: go over the Patriots versus the Bengals Week five, twenty

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Speaker 1: thirteen match with the legendary pac Man Jones. Pack in

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Speaker 1: one sentence, why this game?

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Speaker 5: Stop the screak?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 5: Why not? Why not? Tom Brady's the best of all time?

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I was a part of history when

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Speaker 2: when people talk about Tom Brady because I.

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Speaker 3: Stopped the street this game stop the streak.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's most touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Like in around fifty two straight games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty two straight games? You know, we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: this game. But you guys played a hell of a

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Speaker 1: defensive match. But I got I got some I got

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Speaker 1: some ship. We could talk about that. I got some

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Speaker 1: ship we could talk about. Is this the greatest game

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Speaker 1: of all time?

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Speaker 5: For me?

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Speaker 2: Are you saying where however you want to take it?

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Speaker 4: Existent?

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Speaker 1: Because we we've done about two hundred things great, We're

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Speaker 1: grade this this game at the end.

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Speaker 2: I would say it's got to be one with one

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Speaker 2: of one, one of one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 2: Fifty two touchdowns, we stop it. I had a chance

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Speaker 2: to stop it, be a part of something. This game'm

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Speaker 2: always gonna be talked about because it's tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, It'd always be talked about that. Ain't that

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Speaker 1: the truth? So pack, what are you up to these days?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 5: Politely Row is my podcast.

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Speaker 3: I watch it, I see the clips as funny as hell.

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Speaker 2: And I just it's explained itself politely rong man. I

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Speaker 2: enjoy talking shit and doing it my way. Like I

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Speaker 2: always tell people, like, I don't really judge the person,

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Speaker 2: but I love judging the play. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what you do, but between the lines,

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Speaker 2: it gives me time to give my opinion and what

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Speaker 2: I think about certain things.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just whatever that play shows like not if

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Speaker 1: like the player in that play maybe been at the

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Speaker 1: Strip club the night before.

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Speaker 4: It's about the.

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Speaker 2: One of those guys that was get the script club

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: But games, Uh, bro, you know that, I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 1: So we had a series of formations and it was

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Speaker 1: each formation it was an empty the F would move

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Speaker 1: and so the F in the slot the two spot

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Speaker 1: Kevin Falk, who was the running back that we put

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Speaker 3: He was the guy.

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Speaker 1: The F on the outside was brown, and then F

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Speaker 1: on the inside was Bengal. And in the way for

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Speaker 1: us all to remember that, our coach should always say,

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Speaker 1: all you got to remember is the F is always

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Speaker 1: in jail.

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Speaker 3: He's in jail. The Bengals are always in jail.

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Speaker 2: Hey, y'all had a lot of interesting things. I want

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Speaker 2: to ask you this before we get going. Did Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady like come in there and break down each defensive

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Speaker 2: guy when I was going to these big games like

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Speaker 2: as far as like Super Bowl, Like this guy right

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Speaker 2: here don't got good d boll speed. This guy right

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Speaker 2: here he'd liked to jump place. He only played good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was like every week, so you know,

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Speaker 1: like we'd have it was usually like a Friday or

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Speaker 1: We'd have time and meeting time after our installation of whatever.

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Speaker 1: That like Friday would be red Zone. Then Tom receiver's

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Speaker 1: plays for each guy and Tom would go through and

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Speaker 1: he was leading the meeting. He'd go, this guy is

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Speaker 1: an offhan jam. This guy's patient's line of scrimmage. This

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Speaker 1: guy won't get let you get beat deep, so you

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Speaker 1: have to use your quick like all that stuff was real.

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Speaker 1: I saw a clip about that recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would ask you that because before this game

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Speaker 2: I was talking to him. He like, you don't like cover.

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Speaker 5: Two, do you you know?

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Speaker 2: I don't like cover too, And then it just caave

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Speaker 2: him up not too long ago, and that's what made

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Speaker 2: me ask you that. And I hated cover too too,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Why I just want I rather have

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Speaker 2: a real corner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have many of pac Man Jones anymore

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Speaker 1: six overall, dudes, not even six foot. But that's how

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Speaker 1: good of a corner where you could just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you doesn't matter what everyone fuck it you guys run

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Speaker 1: hey pack you got him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's like a real corner. Lockdown. Who's the

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Speaker 2: lockdown corners right now? That are man coverage corners? Well,

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Speaker 2: you gotta say Patrick, certain Patrick following your dog.

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Speaker 4: I like long though.

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Speaker 2: I like, uh, the kid from the Panthers Jackson or

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Speaker 2: the other one the order just got paid all that

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Speaker 2: money corn Hi, them are my top two goal I

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Speaker 2: like Stingley is really good to the corners. Stingley's stings

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Speaker 2: is a dog.

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Speaker 1: Gonzo Gonzalez for the Patriots. He's just he's pretty, he's

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Speaker 1: athletically there. Yeah, he still needs to learn how to

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Speaker 1: use his hands. But that guy he sticks on. Dudes,

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Speaker 1: there's some good corners. There's some good corner bad ones too.

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Speaker 3: What do you what do you? What do you think

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Speaker 3: about these playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Right now?

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Speaker 2: It's up in the air, but you know how it is,

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Speaker 2: if you get high at the end of the season.

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Speaker 2: I think the most dangerous team right now are the Texans. Texans, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just stay in every top five on defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the offense like real poopy last week.

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Speaker 2: No, but that defense, you can that offense eventually get going,

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Speaker 2: well it, I think.

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Speaker 1: But what if it catches a store Like Okay, we

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Speaker 1: know what the Steelers are On offense, it was it

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Speaker 1: was a struggle for them. They don't have the offensive

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Speaker 1: they could run the football and then hit the player.

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Speaker 4: They don't have that.

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Speaker 5: They had a scrugg on defense. Really, if.

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Speaker 3: We're not getting into that, we're not getting into that.

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Speaker 4: We will get in.

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: How do you spend some it's richest defense in the

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Speaker 1: world and they're leading the world in paying defense and

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Speaker 1: they ain't making the plays.

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Speaker 3: But getting back to the other side.

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Speaker 1: In the playoffs, as we both know, the next game

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Speaker 1: is the harder game. So they're going to play a

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Speaker 1: team if they have three turnovers, that team's gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to score at least one two point not like

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. So like, that's the only thing that

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Speaker 1: makes me scared about. The offense has been way too

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Speaker 1: up and down and those up and downs. They don't

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Speaker 1: go away when you enter the playoffs. They get exposed

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Speaker 1: when you are in the playoffs, because it's not about

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Speaker 1: the more plays you make, it's about the least amount

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Speaker 1: of mistakes you make to win games in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Sney had just I don't know how Shenahan does it,

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Speaker 2: but he lost down to everybody on the team. Him

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Speaker 2: and Christmas figure out a way to win the game,

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Speaker 2: all of them, like literally literally he out coached them

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Speaker 2: is last game.

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Speaker 1: That was That was one thousand percent Dudek they got,

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Speaker 1: you know what, they have a lot of versatile players

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Speaker 1: they do. You know, like Uschek, He's like basically a

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Speaker 1: all the spots. And when you have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: what we used to do, it makes it hard for

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Speaker 1: the defense to match up. You play the big boys in,

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Speaker 1: Shanahan's gonna hit one of those screens, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. It's just a matchup game. The one thing though,

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Speaker 1: the Niners are always good under the radar. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those things they gotta they gotta get

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Speaker 1: have like some crazy stats. They're what you like to

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Speaker 1: call that front running team, or they gotta they gotta

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Speaker 1: defense can do all that crazy shit and the offense

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Speaker 2: They test this week. Those Seahawks is a real good team.

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Speaker 2: Seahawks are good.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I think the night, the Niners

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Speaker 1: scare me playing the Seahawks because they know how to

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Speaker 1: play the Seahawks and they ain't scared of the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: like everyone right now.

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Speaker 3: And they just lost to him too, just lost to him.

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Speaker 3: How hard is it to play a team three times?

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Speaker 2: You know? How hard it is. Man, you go back

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Speaker 2: and look at all the film and shit that your

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Speaker 2: head is thinking this way that way. Well, I had

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Speaker 2: him on this play this time, he wasn't that good.

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Speaker 2: And when I was pressing him, you go to the

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Speaker 2: next game. Is his lass off the line every play.

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Speaker 5: It's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's hard because it's better for the defense because I

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Speaker 1: one of my If you felt one of my moves,

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Speaker 1: I don't got to see you for a while, but

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Speaker 1: then I got to see you in two weeks. You

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Speaker 1: felt that move that I've been trying to set you

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Speaker 1: up on.

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Speaker 2: The Only thing that I would say is a little

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Speaker 2: bit more is final formation, like y'all was one week

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Speaker 2: we would play y'all, y'all go five, while the next

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Speaker 2: week you motherfucker's in bunch formation the whole fucking game.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where was this on film the last two weeks?

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Speaker 2: So like stuff like that is it's kind of hard

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Speaker 2: because you already got a couple of keys. Or if

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Speaker 2: they give me this formation, I don't care if big

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Speaker 2: double movie, I'm gonna go ahead and jump it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going if I think I know what it is, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going because if you jump it and you get burned,

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Speaker 3: But if you jump it and.

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Speaker 5: You get it here, oh my god, that's.

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Speaker 3: His money in the pocket for the DVS.

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Speaker 5: That's why.

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Speaker 3: That's that's why, that's what I always say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're getting fined for big higgs, now take it away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, football soft though, man.

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Speaker 4: What's up with?

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Speaker 3: What's up with the Cincinnati Bengals right now?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man, we need some vets man Like I like

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Speaker 2: the two linebackers, the two young boys. I think they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be all right. They both had a hundred plus tackles.

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Speaker 2: Came on later during the season, but early on the season. Shit,

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Speaker 2: can't win like that. What we got back there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: So you score thirty points, you expect to win the game.

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Speaker 2: They lost six games and score over twenty eight points.

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Speaker 3: Was putting up points?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, smoking Joe looked Smoking Joe looked the damn guy.

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Speaker 1: I get so excited for those guys. Like, I was

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Speaker 4: Rivers, Rivers. I couldn't hop on that one.

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Speaker 2: I always was Aaron Rodgers fan though, because the same

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Speaker 4: True, I was.

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Speaker 1: Throwing the ball like he's there's like I don't think generational.

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Speaker 3: It's him and Dann Marino. It's all the old heads.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch Dan Marino, but all the old heads

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Speaker 2: You could tell those guys too, though, Like I think

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Speaker 5: Just flood out through it.

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Speaker 2: That Caleb Pretty Color when him Color was playing, he

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Speaker 1: He remind he's kind of like a like him and

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Speaker 5: That African spin it.

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Speaker 1: That Caleb throw is pretty sick. Was we just got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't buying them with the nails and ship,

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Speaker 4: It's been it's you know, I'm I'm happy for the.

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears and that like I've looked down a rabbit

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Speaker 4: Bro, they b the Cheesebaders.

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Speaker 1: Like they haven't experienced that that joy in.

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Speaker 3: A long time.

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Speaker 4: I read the cheese Gutter company was making the cheese

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Speaker 4: they made We'll show you just.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 4: And the handshakes to that handshake was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Bro, do you have any coaches that had any petty

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Speaker 2: Oh you yeah, yeah, coach right will tell the coach

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Speaker 2: Oh h it was coordinated. Simmer zim Zim's zim Zim

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Speaker 4: Man bro legend. Ye, the blow by is the best. Ah.

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Speaker 3: That was an all time blow by this weekend. Zim

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Speaker 4: He got the game ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great I mean we'll get into that.

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Speaker 4: But didn't sim didn't him have like a twenty year

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right after from cancer.

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Speaker 4: I remember that wasn't a scouting report. Yeah, that was tough.

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Speaker 5: His wife passed away in twelve.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I remember the coaches being like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Them was them was by or I would say the

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Speaker 2: What's my boyhod coaching Denver right now? Joseph advance DJ

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Speaker 2: You won? While his whole thing was Muggie Day got me.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what the hell we ain't We're gonna

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play zero out of it. He talked like,

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Speaker 4: And that's what you did in this game.

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Speaker 2: Then that rain came down right in town.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now, Pat, how'd you end up out West Virginia?

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Speaker 2: So my grandma got sick with cancel and I was going,

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Speaker 2: I went to Miami. They ain't show me no love

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Speaker 2: I'm going to West Virginia. It's a long way from

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Speaker 2: He's like, look who you want to play running back?

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Speaker 2: But we see you playing defense at corner. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: I went back to him, like, but can I do

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Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah that was all she wrote. And Morgantown

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Speaker 2: I got I shouldn't say I got a bag. I

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Speaker 3: Just then it's a little statute of limitations.

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Speaker 5: Got yeah, thty thousand dollars back then it was a

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Speaker 4: Bro, Man, that was a bad half back. Then.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this quick break.

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Speaker 1: If it was Pac mand if we could just drop

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, maybe after that first year you didn't play

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Speaker 2: I think I think they would have paid me, like

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Speaker 4: Dude, that's.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: You guys were a good football school too.

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Speaker 2: Was we was, especially our second and third year, Like

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Speaker 3: Part, what's the backyard brawl?

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, West Virginia all time? That's why I really

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Speaker 2: Then I ended up going to the Bengals never really

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Speaker 4: Man. Everywhere you go.

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Speaker 1: I went to Kent State, we had a lot of

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Speaker 3: There's probably a lot of Pittsburgh kids. Went to West Virginia.

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Speaker 5: One of my best friends, Rivers.

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Speaker 4: What's so, what's to do with the coaches? I went

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Speaker 4: So what's what's the big games?

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Speaker 5: Like, Virginia Tech was was our rival.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget that we played Virginia Tad was throwing

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Speaker 2: fucking big ass double D battery it cause like put

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Speaker 5: They got batteries out there.

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Speaker 2: They got these today, and they was chunking them damn batteries.

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Speaker 2: We ended up that's when y'all had the running back.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two, we beat y'all at at Virginia Tech seven

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Speaker 5: It was a Then we.

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Speaker 2: Came back the next year, played y'all in West Virginia,

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Speaker 5: I had a night that night. We won that night too.

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Speaker 4: Like when your teams are on the edge of getting

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Speaker 2: But I've never seen a couch not burnt. If we

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Speaker 2: back then Miami, Yeah, like, bro, they would take the

447
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: gold post out of the stadium and take it all

448
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: the way down to fucking high school. First of all,

449
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: behind the fuck did y'all get in the stadium to

450
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: get the go post?

451
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 4: Like?

452
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 5: It was crazy?

453
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: Bro, Like, how did they get it out?

454
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, teamwork?

455
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 5: Oh no, it happened three times while I was there.

456
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 4: We were your favorite spots to go to in Morgantown.

457
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: What's the bar everyone goes Tokeglersglers, Doglars was cool. Being

458
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 2: Willis was cool back then. I used to hang out

459
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: with the Frats boys though. Yeah, yeah, like dud uh

460
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: what is his secrets? I forget what is I want

461
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 2: to say the wrong thing on camera? But up there

462
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: on frat Row was always a blast. About thirty kegs

463
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: up there summertime, it was the best. We used to

464
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: have these mud slid parties, all the girls in bathing suits,

465
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: twenty kegs around, mudslad.

466
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 4: In more than one way.

467
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it.

468
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 5: Was like that. It was really like that.

469
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: Like I had some the best times of my whole

470
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: entire life in Morgantown.

471
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: Imagine Morgantown ain't got no girls.

472
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 5: All the girls up there with no teeth bullshit that.

473
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 4: Is.

474
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: I don't believe that ship. All you gotta do is

475
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: go up there one time and you'll figure that.

476
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: Now.

477
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: Did they when you're returning a punt in Morgantown? Are

478
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: they like chanting anything?

479
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

480
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

481
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 4: Did were they?

482
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: Was there a pac Man chant going in the stadium?

483
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

484
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know how good I was after the Miami game. Man,

485
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 2: that Miami game, Like I couldn't even walk around campus

486
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: after that.

487
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 5: But I had a really good game that game. That

488
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 5: was like my breakout game. I had a pick, I had.

489
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 2: Probably about fourteen tackles, two pass breakup. That was the

490
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: game I smack slapped Kevin Kevin Winslow.

491
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 5: Oh good right, yeah, just make the ship up.

492
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah when I came. When we came back and

493
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: we lost that game by field goal, I mean the

494
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: whole town was waiting on us like we had won

495
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: the game. And since that that game, that Miami game,

496
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: like everything was nine in what'stle g So? Yeah, it

497
00:24:59,640 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: was crazy.

498
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: Oh those a Thursday night game too, I forgot.

499
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, geez, the whole country was watching that one.

500
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 3: Pack.

501
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: Walk me through your thought process before you're about to

502
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: return a punt.

503
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm always always interested. What what are you looking at?

504
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: Nothing long as I got as long as I can

505
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: catch it, I feel like I can win with my

506
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: first step.

507
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 5: I'm I've always been like that.

508
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah and gets a return side.

509
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: Nah, I don't really, you're bored to the script. It

510
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: depends on how it is when I first catch it.

511
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 2: I've never been one of them guys like, oh, yeah,

512
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: three steps left, the turn is right.

513
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 5: I go three steps left.

514
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody else I'm going left and this done caught

515
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: me a couple of times, but I've got away with

516
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: him way more times then I've got caught with it.

517
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: But like I believe, they gotta let me kiss the ball,

518
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: you gotta let me catch the ball.

519
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 5: I feel that I can win.

520
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you had like god touch speed. I

521
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: had to run punts differently. I always liked when I

522
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: caught the punt, I would go directly. I would start

523
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: attacking everyone, because all that's doing is setting up my

524
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: blocks for everyone else to get to their and then

525
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: I'd so I'd always tack to the middle of the field,

526
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 1: and then I would get to my my return side,

527
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: and then you look for one foot, put it in

528
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: the ground, then split and go.

529
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 4: Hackman was already already bawling by the time you got

530
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 4: in the league. Were you looking at his film at off?

531
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 4: What did you notice? What did you like?

532
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch it because he was so fast that

533
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of the shit that he I couldn't

534
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: do that he could like reverse field and fucking outrun everyone.

535
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: Like I was a very north South use my quickness

536
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: and vision like Pack did too. But like it was

537
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: just a different thing because the holes that he hit,

538
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 1: like only like one person, two people, three people can

539
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: hit those holes because they're getting up and they're going.

540
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: You know, I had to I had to be a

541
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: little more creative with my ship in first off was

542
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: pretty good though it was good Man, How can you

543
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: explain to everyone the importance special teams?

544
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: I talk about them everything.

545
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 5: To me, it's one of the biggest part of the game.

546
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: It's field, position, feel, position ship. If you if you're

547
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: starting plus or past the thirty five forty yard line,

548
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: two first downs, you got points.

549
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: Yeah on our side.

550
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: If you fail, I mean catching the ball on the

551
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: fucking eight yard line, then they gotta go.

552
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: Ninety two yards.

553
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: So like I think, and if you're in the league,

554
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 2: you understand how how how big special teams is Like

555
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: these fucking gunners that's out here running like bro. They

556
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: got one of the hardest jobs in the league when

557
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: we was in there, kickoff and kickoff return. Those are

558
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: collisions every fucking time, not just one time. I'm talking

559
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: about big ass guys. I'm talking about We have some

560
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: big ones. I'm talking about fast two linebackers to seventy

561
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 2: five that was running a four or five that's steaming

562
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: like it's I ain't gonna say the most important, but

563
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: to me, it is the most important part of the

564
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: game to third and we can see it though, like

565
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: you missed a field goal, you missed a kick, you

566
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: lose by two blocker kick blocker ki And normally if

567
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: you're winning the field position and the turnover statistics say

568
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: you should win in the game definitely.

569
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: And it's so crazy with the new rules because the

570
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: touchback automatically to the thirty five, the field position is

571
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: different the new k balls. These guys are kicking in

572
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: fucking ninety yards now, Like, so the game is, it's

573
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: if you could dial those situations down on.

574
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: To win a lot of games.

575
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: And when we play, you know, they couldn't fuck with

576
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: the ball. The kickers couldn't know the kickers get to

577
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: get them mofucker right, That's why we're sending all these

578
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: longer deal goes and ship and all these guys pooch

579
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: kicking goddamn ball from the ten yard line and it's

580
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: going sixty five yards.

581
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 5: It's because they playing with the balls.

582
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, that's what all the guys used to want

583
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: to be able to do when we were playing. They're like, oh,

584
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't even put that in there. It's too nice

585
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: of a ball. Yep for practice, got gig out of

586
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: one right out the box.

587
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: Y'all hard.

588
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 6: And you look at a team right now, the rams man,

589
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 6: great defense, great offense, special teams.

590
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: That might be their downfall that that could it could be.

591
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: And special teams defines toughness. That's what people. It's a

592
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: momentum part of the game. You could stop like if

593
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: you could cover kicks, and you could you could return

594
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: kicks and you can. That's like what we're was defined

595
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: as a tough football team. If you could cover kicks,

596
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: stop the run like that was like how you were.

597
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: Y'all had one of the best.

598
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: What's the boy, Matthew Slater? What I hated his ass?

599
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 5: Like, bro, double his ass time you get off the bus.

600
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: Bro.

601
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 5: He had a motor too.

602
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: Motor motor dude Slate.

603
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: Slate would spend two and a half hours in practice

604
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: doing like this these crazy just gunner drills. You know,

605
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: you know that's Jackie Slater's son. I ain't know that

606
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: that's Jackie sli Yeah, Jackie Slater, right tackle, Hall of Fame,

607
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: probably the greatest right tackle.

608
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 4: He proved out.

609
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: Fast ass Slate and motherfucker could run. Jack is like

610
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: six five big ass dudes. Slate's like world class speed.

611
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah he could run.

612
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: Talk about the importance of special teams. Of twenty ten

613
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: San Diego Chargers, but number one in the league on offense,

614
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 4: number one the league in defense, missed the playoffs because

615
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: they had a terrible special teams.

616
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Right yeah, easy, bold heads, Now three phases, three phases

617
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: of the game. Now talk to us about your NFL stops.

618
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: You're drafted six overall to the Tennessee Titans. Jeff Fisher

619
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: love fish Man.

620
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: I was Fish.

621
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 5: Fisher was one of one.

622
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: He was like a country music rock star out there.

623
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

624
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: He was like I still talk to Fish to today. Yeah,

625
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 2: he was just two, he was. He treated me like

626
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: his son. I just he wasn't hard enough on me.

627
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: And I was fucking at that age. Bro, I was

628
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: young and dumb. I would say, like I just enjoyed life.

629
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wasn't home and on the little things

630
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: I will say, but like I played hard, like you

631
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: had no problems with me while I'm at the stadium,

632
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: like I've never had a problem with no coach about

633
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: me practicing, uh, preparing for the game, that when I

634
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: leave at motherfucker might.

635
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 5: Be a different story.

636
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: Where's where's Magenicy?

637
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 5: Let's go have a beer.

638
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: Boys, they got special legs. Yeah, but Fisher was man Fisher.

639
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: Fisher Fisher's by far, like he really cared about me.

640
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: And when I was going through all that ship, when

641
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: I when I got suspended, and when I came back,

642
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: He's like, what you want to do? I was like, man,

643
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm ready to get the funk out of this country.

644
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: Ass time like you sure, Like yeah, man, I need

645
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: a fresh start, and like like I want you to

646
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: just go home and think about it.

647
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: It came to my house.

648
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: We had had a beer, and I like, I think

649
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: it's best for me to go somewhere else, and he's like,

650
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: if that's.

651
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 5: What you want, and.

652
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: They I was old, like nine million dollars they had

653
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: like postponed it. I left him. I let him keep

654
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: forever and I took the other five and then I

655
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: ended up getting trade to Dallas. The Jeri world. Jerry

656
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: Rod was good, Like Jerry was unbelievable to me. The

657
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: team we had Romo, it was more of the more

658
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: glitz and glimmer than motherfucker's worrying about football, you know

659
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: what I mean? Him what was the girl? He was

660
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: daking something? It wasn't like in Tennessee we was tight

661
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 2: as a team. Cincinnati, they didn't have the culture that

662
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: I was used to. But once I got there, I

663
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: kind of got the colture like like how I wanted it.

664
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: But in Dallas, everybody, you know what I mean, want

665
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: nobody staying late to do the little things. Motherfucker's in

666
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: and out, you know what I mean. And you realize

667
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: everything big in jerr or like everything shit. The kicker

668
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: is getting paid a million dollars. That's not even kicking

669
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: the back of kicking. Everybody got a car deal like

670
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: so it was Dallas was cool, but it wasn't football wise.

671
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't nowhere near the bit some of the places

672
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: I played. And then then I got to Cincinnati, the

673
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: culture was shittyest fuck it. First it was all abouta

674
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: and Ocho was an eye guy. I'll say that that's

675
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: my boy, but it wasn't like he was worrying about

676
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: everybody else or doing ship to get the team together,

677
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And we were sorry for

678
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: them what first two three years And when I got there,

679
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: everybody was talking about how sorry Cincinnati was. Damn me

680
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: Vante's berfik, Gil Geno, actors aj.

681
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: We kind of changed the.

682
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: Whole cultureffs, like eight years. The whole thing is, look, bro,

683
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: I helping nobody up. Got you got some friends on

684
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: the other team or family, well talk to them after

685
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: the game. We had like a fine system too, Like, man,

686
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: I wish you would help the motherfucker up while you're

687
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: talking on out here and they out here trying to

688
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 2: kill us, like perfect level. Oh yeah, nobody. But like

689
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: if you've seen five five off the field, you wouldn't

690
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 2: believe how nice of a person he was. But boy,

691
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: once he put that ship on, if he was like

692
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: that in practice too, I'm talking about it was some

693
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: practice Coach Lewis had to stop practice. Like go ahead, bro,

694
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: if he was on your team, you love him.

695
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: It's just he had such a terrible reputation because.

696
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 5: He was a hot assassin.

697
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's kind of how the game was. That

698
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: was like the tail end of when that game is there.

699
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: The crazy part is first two years he played like that,

700
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: they rewarded him, they paid him big money, and then

701
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: all the rules came. It's like, oh, you can't hit

702
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: him this way, you can't hit him that way. And

703
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: I think that took a lot. Actually, I know it

704
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: fucked him up because like he've been playing the game

705
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: this one way for so long and then he get

706
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: rewarded for playing the game like that, and then all

707
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you.

708
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: Say, man, you can't hit nobody like that. You can't

709
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 5: do this.

710
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: Then ever hand he was safety that.

711
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: That was when that was the last breed of when

712
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: you could start hitting the high paid hitting guys. Yea,

713
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: they all started doing the little way. Yeah, all because

714
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: of Will Smith and that goddamn movie Tell the Truth,

715
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: Tell the Truth. Because of Will Smith in the movie.

716
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: I remember when was killed yea, what.

717
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: We was literally trying to kill it though I was.

718
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 5: I remember that game the Truth like we was.

719
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: And then Juju let out a little perfect yeah as

720
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: a mutual observer.

721
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: Trying to kill Aby.

722
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: It was just a little antics he was doing and

723
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: little little lame ass ship that we just didn't agree

724
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: with all the shaking it. But we went with that ship, bro,

725
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: like we was real football players and we had a

726
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: bund in our locker room, like, hey, bro, we don't

727
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: want to see this shit today, Like if you go

728
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: across the middle, you're getting killed, like runs slant. I

729
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: don't even bro, he's the ball. Look, that's just how

730
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: he was. And I'm telling you, bro, from from I

731
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: always say two thousand nine to fifteen. I don't think

732
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: nobody wanted to go over the middle or like hits

733
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: the ball running slant or dig and win fucking couple four,

734
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 2: like we would tell the safety, Bro, don't even rub

735
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: about him running the post. We got the post. If

736
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: he run his dig bro. You need to take your

737
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: face mask and run it straight through his face mask.

738
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 5: We gonna chip in to pay the fine.

739
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 4: Our teams doing that these days, you think, nah, did

740
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: that come into your locker room when you play the Bengals, Like, hey,

741
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: just be careful in front of the middle. Hey, they

742
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: like to do X one.

743
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: We play these guys, we'd have on Wednesday, we'd have

744
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: a fifteen to twenty five play cut up of all

745
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: like after the play antics from what they do. So

746
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: we wouldn't watch the play. We'd watch Bill would sit there. Look, look,

747
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: pac Man's gonna try to get in your fucking grill.

748
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: He's gonna try to get you pissed off. Just remember

749
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: the second guy always gets the fucking penalty.

750
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 3: Like just little reminders of that.

751
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: Like perfect, this guy, he's gotta keep on hitting you. Now, fellas,

752
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: you gotta protect yourself and you gotta protect your teammates.

753
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 4: Watch out, you know what I mean.

754
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: Like that's how it was. You'd have a thirty play

755
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: cut up all the antics. They're gonna hit you, they're

756
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: gonna talk shit. Don't get a fucking penalty. That was

757
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: the one thing.

758
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: Don't get the I used to love fucking with Bill.

759
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: I remember we played Tennessee. We played played the Patriots

760
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: in Tennessee, and I forget what happened.

761
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: I ran down the sideline. I said, kick me the

762
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 5: fucking ball.

763
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: I ain't kicking you the fucking ball, and damn show shit,

764
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: he kicked once straight down the middle. I took that

765
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: motherfucker back to the house. I run back down the sideline.

766
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: I'm listening to him.

767
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 5: He said, I told you not to kick hitting the

768
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: fucking ball after the game.

769
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: Without Actually I had him when I was with Pat

770
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: on Pat McAfee show. He's like, pack you remember that player, Like, yeah,

771
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: I remember that play. It's like I told that motherfucker

772
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: not to kick you the ball too. But yeah, Bill

773
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: was one of the best when it came to special

774
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: teams too. Oh.

775
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: He took time with him and he knew it. He

776
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: was a special team coordinator. That's what people don't realize.

777
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: Back in seventy seventy five, when he was with the

778
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Baltimore Colts, he started on the special teams.

779
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: I can believe it.

780
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, I tell the story all

781
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: the time about we were doing shitty and kickoff team

782
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: and Bill got mad at the coordinator and came in,

783
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: took over the meeting, went player for player on everyone's responsibility,

784
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: installed a play right there on the dime, and we

785
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: housed to kick that week.

786
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: You're gonna take MDM.

787
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 4: You're gonna hair pin turn. If you're gonna do this, you.

788
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: Just fucking run best the teams Special Team six Week

789
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 6: seventeen pack took it to the house.

790
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 4: Eighty five yards eighty five?

791
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: What was your long?

792
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: Eighty five?

793
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

794
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 5: I think that Philly game was the longest one I had.

795
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: I got a little breaking news. Mike Tomlin just stepped down.

796
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: What he stepped down? You think they made him step down? No?

797
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: I think he just went out too.

798
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike have been doing that a long time.

799
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: Bro.

800
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 5: I think you want to come and to you now.

801
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: He should tell him to come right up on Fox,

802
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 3: you know, dang.

803
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: I adn't think he was step down, though I thought

804
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: I would have thought he was. He would have came

805
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: back year. I thought Anne Rod would have went back

806
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: and played with him one more year.

807
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 4: Two.

808
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna do the Sean Payton take a year on TV.

809
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: See what the landscape of the NFL is, See how

810
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: you know learn everything, talk right about people get people

811
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: to think that you're charming this that, and then the

812
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: next time that the jobs open up, it'll be the pick.

813
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 4: That was whistle.

814
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a long time though, nineteen years.

815
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: And an afrth long time man.

816
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: So you made to tell me.

817
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: Tomlin eighteen years, nineteen years is one of the two out.

818
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Harrorball eighteen nineteen years out and we still got Taylor

819
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: over there.

820
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 4: It's a fancy Hey, this.

821
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: Fucking guy here.

822
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: You don't like, No, you don't think he's good.

823
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: No, he had a good year, but he had a

824
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: couple of good years, But I don't think he's a

825
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 2: good coach.

826
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 5: Why resumes for himself? The good year winning.

827
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Borrow in Cleveland bro with Baker and then I don't

828
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: know how it went down or what went down to

829
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: get the Shawn there, but the very next year they

830
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: bring in the Shawn a year after they didn't do

831
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: very well, after they won a playoff game with Baker.

832
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I think that organization just ran crazily.

833
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: They were play away from the AFC Championship game.

834
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: Play away and then he gets Joe Flacco off the

835
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: couch and he goes to the playoffs.

836
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: He's a two time coach year. I don't know, I'm

837
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: only two years though. Look at his tart racking. Besides

838
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 2: those two years, shitty is.

839
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: Hell pretty bad? Zat Hammer? Is that just the Browns?

840
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 5: Brown's always been shitty?

841
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as I played, the Browns and the

842
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: Jets have been the worst teams in the NFL. I

843
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: think most NFL players when I first got it, there

844
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: nine oh yeah, that was they had.

845
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: That's when they had.

846
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: Rex, Ryan Bart, Scott san cheto Lt the cornerback too,

847
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: CAMARTI reeveous.

848
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 4: That was tough.

849
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: They had the white boy Jimmy Leonard and where's the

850
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: other safety some other I was like, that was the deficiencies.

851
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 4: Those were the deficiencies.

852
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this quick break.

853
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's get Let's go back into time around

854
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: where the game took place. This game took place on

855
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: October sixth, twenty thirteen. Let's go over some of the

856
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: pop culture. Number one movie was Gravity? Was that George Clooney? Yeah,

857
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: that one was kind of sad at the end. Yeah,

858
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: incredible filmmaking. This Royals song sounds like so Lord by

859
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: the Royal song number one song, doesn't that sound she

860
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: sounds that sounds like Billy Eilish to me. This was

861
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: like Billie Eilish ten years ago.

862
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Billy. I did too.

863
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: We went to the concert with the Little Girl.

864
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: She loved it.

865
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: Around this time, pop culture Captain Phillips were the Millers

866
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: and Bad Grandpa were in the box office. No, no,

867
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm either NFL champion, Seattle Seahawks, Peyton Manning was the MVP.

868
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: Jamison Winston was the Heisman Trophy and college football champion.

869
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: This time was this two thousand, bab.

870
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: I remember that. That Jamie Winston speech was hilarious. I

871
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: told my gosh, you're just gonna go out there. He's

872
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: the guy.

873
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 4: Bro, Bro, I.

874
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: Can't get enough of Jamis.

875
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: I love him too, me too, electric you know what,

876
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 2: he is going to be a classic at the football.

877
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: Oh so I was sitting there.

878
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: I was the guy that's all right, dude, all these

879
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: come on, man, it's about playing football. We don't need

880
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: to hear about the crab legs or the eating the w's.

881
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: This guy's you know. Then he came and worked with

882
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: us on Fox. He's it's a genuine cool dude.

883
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a gimmick, but that's him.

884
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: It's him.

885
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just a good assess dude that like just

886
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: loves being part of the group.

887
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: And I'm not a jokester either, Like I'm not either.

888
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: I hate all that joking shit. But he's one of

889
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: them guys. She's like, how the fuck did you just

890
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: come over with this? You think he does research before? Look,

891
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: yes he has to write, yes you got too.

892
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: But he does like a mashup between like what his

893
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: pastor told him, a TikTok thing, and then like what

894
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: he saw on the way to the stadium. He like

895
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: mashes it all up and then he tells everyone his

896
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: experience and it's it's honestly really good stuff.

897
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 5: Smart as hell.

898
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: What was life like for pac Man in twenty thirteen.

899
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: One at thirteen?

900
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: It was good.

901
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: Life was good. Life was good.

902
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: We were kind of on the up, right, we were.

903
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: She was just getting back right, you're getting back right.

904
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

905
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: Suspension was out.

906
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, had been in since he I had twenty thirteen.

907
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: I signed three for thirty no sign. I signed a

908
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: little deal of that year. I think I think it

909
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: was like two for fifteen or so, and then he

910
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: got fourteen.

911
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 5: I signed three for thirty.

912
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: That's why he was always at those clubs making a

913
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: rain supposed Hell a hell of buddy in the weather.

914
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: You ever pick off Peyton? He was the MVP this year.

915
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: I got Peyton, I got Eli, I got Brady. I

916
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: pretty much got all the top guys.

917
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite quarterback to pick off?

918
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be Brady. Gotta be Brady, you gotta

919
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: be you keep that ball? Yeah, Hell yeah, I got

920
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: all my Yes, I do. I got all my interception boss,

921
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: every last one of them.

922
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: You gotta get all the quarterbacks to sign him?

923
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 4: Now, Oh I should do that? Where do you keeping back?

924
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: Interest in that?

925
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: I got an office in my house. Nice that my

926
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 5: wife did her. You got to got a job of.

927
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: You got the little autograph people to follow, like tom

928
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: or or Hayton and just hey man, get this one

929
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: for packing. Yeah, you know you go to like the

930
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: airports and Fort Lauderdale and there's like fifty people. Yeah,

931
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: I just want to have you sign a pylon. Why

932
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: am I signing a pylon right now in the middle

933
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: of the airport? Is it always for Ladderdale?

934
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: For lader Deal? I was just there, That's all the reason.

935
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

936
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 6: How do you find out he's jumping into the game.

937
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 6: So we hit these Bengals real quick. These Bangals eleven

938
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 6: and five. Marve Lewis is eleventh season. Jay Gruden was

939
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 6: running the offense.

940
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: Here.

941
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 6: We talked about Mike Zimmer a little bit, dc uh.

942
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 6: Some great rookie class this year, Tyler iferd, Jill Bernard,

943
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 6: Rex burkehead.

944
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: Damn is Tyler Eifer, don't get hurt. Whos been one

945
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 5: of the best.

946
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: He was unbelievable too. Yeah, yeah, Nick and Beck problems

947
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: man Nor tight ends. Rex Burke was a months we wanted.

948
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: We took him and we want to bro he was

949
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: Cole White boy. What have you ever seen him play basketball? Yes?

950
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 2: You can, don't that bitch and shoot it? Yeah, yes,

951
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: Rex Rex was a guy.

952
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 6: I'm not sure I ever saw him get negative yards.

953
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 6: He was always moving, always falling forward.

954
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 5: He remind me of McCarthy, he.

955
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 4: Kind of.

956
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: I think McCaffrey's a little bigger, bigger, I don't know.

957
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: Manx Rix was man, I'm talking about and Rixd. He

958
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: can get up through there too, I'm talking about he

959
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: was so quick in and out beast.

960
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: We took him from you guys. Yeah, we went on

961
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: with him.

962
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: He was what he scored in the AFC Championship to

963
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: make us go to the overtime over time in there,

964
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: right out of the backfield, could catch the ball.

965
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: Smart, good on special teams too, right on a special teams.

966
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: Fucking put his head in there.

967
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: What an underrated career beast. Yea love Rex.

968
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 6: This was a AFC North winning team when that won

969
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 6: it for the first time since nine. Also got a

970
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 6: note featured on Hard Knocks Training Camp.

971
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 4: It's just always always tough.

972
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 6: A lot of dudes on his team. I mean, this

973
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 6: was a a very fun team to go back and

974
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 6: look through. You got aj green in his third year

975
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 6: balling out. You got young Andy Dalton, you got Ben

976
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 6: Jarvis greenellis another former Patriot, Mohammed Sanu wit back of course,

977
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 6: Fantees Bertha. We talked about, Carlos Dunlap and you got

978
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 6: James Harrison. Weird to see him not in a not

979
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 6: in the Steelers uniform this year.

980
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that was a crazy year.

981
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: Crazy man, Who do you all playing in the playoffs

982
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: this year?

983
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 5: I want to say the Chargers.

984
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was San Diego the year before that. Yeah,

985
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: you look at this roster.

986
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jones is one thing that's on there that that

987
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: fucked us up.

988
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: One thing.

989
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you think Wills?

990
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: Let me see talking quarterback, the red rifle, red rifle

991
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: man could not take the pressure. Bro.

992
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 3: He looked good in the regular season.

993
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, he did.

994
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 5: And when that pressure get on him.

995
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: He always had good numbers.

996
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 5: Ship look at the receivers yet.

997
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: And running backs. That this was when Gino came in.

998
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 3: Bernard he was a great third dollar in those sprolls routes.

999
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: And then Benny Oh this the year that he left

1000
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: h Hawk. We had Hawk before that.

1001
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I never played that much against

1002
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: aj Hawk was a dog.

1003
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: Was good.

1004
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: When did he got into the league probably what.

1005
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 5: Remember he did that thing with Michael Irving. He came

1006
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 5: in kind of late.

1007
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget to show that Mike Arvin had and

1008
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: then he went to Dallas. Then we picked him up

1009
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: on practice squad and the little fucker he just worked

1010
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: his ass off man like I used to.

1011
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 5: I used to literally had to hit his ass.

1012
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, it is weak fourteen and you are

1013
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: here running fucking full speed, bro, like you're on the

1014
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: scout team. Slowed the funk down. Yeah, but how Hawk

1015
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: knew one way?

1016
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: Well, his dad was the wrestler, right, isn't his dad

1017
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: the wrestler? I don't know.

1018
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 5: I don't think so. No, no, no, I'm talking about

1019
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 5: little Hawk.

1020
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 4: Little Hawk.

1021
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Oh Hawk, Yeah, I thought we're talking way off Hawkins.

1022
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: Was Hella good too? I got about him he came

1023
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, I think two years later this is

1024
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: a good football.

1025
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 4: How much is Chado Cinco like hamming it up for

1026
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: hard knocks? How much is Chattinko hamming it up for

1027
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: hard knocks? Or he just really actually like but just

1028
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 4: you wouldn't have been there for Bengals were Yeah, because

1029
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 4: he's been on almost every hard knocks. It feels like yeah, yeah.

1030
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: Now are you a Skyline or gold Star guy?

1031
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 4: Either? We every Isn't it finally real chili?

1032
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 5: Bro? I know, I like, I like my like ground

1033
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 5: beef and my chili.

1034
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like lamb or something, isn't it?

1035
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 4: Is it?

1036
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 3: It's like Greek chili?

1037
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 5: Oh no, it's pasty as hell.

1038
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 4: Though he put it on noodles.

1039
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: Man. They put it out everything, bro. They putting it

1040
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: on biscuits, all types of ship. It ain't just chili

1041
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: you want to put on the hot Dog.

1042
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1043
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: Now, is this the best defense you played on?

1044
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: Um you say in this particular year, doun let Wallace, Yeah,

1045
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: be dumbt all were missing somebody on there? And was

1046
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: Geno Adkins on this team too?

1047
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 4: These rosters generally miss IR, so if someone was on IR,

1048
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 4: they might not show up.

1049
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 3: That he was a problem. You know was on this team.

1050
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: I think he ended up thirteen thirteen. Yeah, this was

1051
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: one of one of the best defenses I played on.

1052
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1053
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: Now, why why couldn't these teams get over the hump.

1054
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 5: Red rifle? You know what red rifle was?

1055
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 4: What's podcast name? Games with names? No but packs? Oh? Polite,

1056
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 4: polightly Yeah, politely wrong. That's true.

1057
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: That's polite, polightly wrong for you, that's politely wrong. I

1058
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 3: was slow on the uptake there.

1059
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 4: Sorry, I was trying to.

1060
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 5: Think about it.

1061
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: Bro. We should have, like even even fourteen when we

1062
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: had uh what's the name from Alabama?

1063
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: Oh not mccaren karen.

1064
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: Yes, when Andy got hurt, we should have just stuck

1065
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 2: with mkaren, never went back to Andy.

1066
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: Andy still he's running from office now, unbelievable. He said

1067
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: he's backing up.

1068
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 6: He's crazy, bro. Yeah, mcaren was the last playing on

1069
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 6: the Battle Hawks.

1070
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a good coach though. He's smart. It

1071
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: just and you got rcial situations. Well it was dan Orlowski.

1072
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good comp backup quarterbacks know everything that's

1073
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: going on with their backups because they can't do it.

1074
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: They could, they could tell you what to do. They

1075
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: could get the practice to go. When the darading quarterbacks

1076
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: not there, it'll look it'll look like it because he

1077
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get.

1078
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 4: Hit in practice.

1079
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he's thirty eight of the live bullets.

1080
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 5: When them live bullets, it's different.

1081
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 4: It's different.

1082
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: All right.

1083
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 6: Let's do uh, run through the Pats real quick here,

1084
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 6: Let's run through the Pats twenty thirteen, Patriots twelve and four,

1085
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick of course, Josh McDaniels, Mattie Puh, some notable

1086
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 6: rookies on this team as well, Jamie Collins, dron Harmon,

1087
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 6: Logan Ryan. We just saw Logan Ryan out there at

1088
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 6: the playoff game getting the crowd going. The other night

1089
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 6: him Mondola lost to Baltimore in the AFC Championship. The

1090
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 6: year before this, this was a year that pretty much

1091
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 6: YA added Dola and Blunt the offseason which was Big Mondola.

1092
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 4: Love Dola.

1093
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: He was a woman in Dallas.

1094
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: He owns right about you all the time.

1095
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: I used to get his ass right and when he

1096
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 2: got there, he couldn't get off the press. I'm like,

1097
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna push your ass every day till you can

1098
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: learn how to get off of it. Yeah, and he

1099
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: fucking learned it too. But like Man, Mondola still good friends.

1100
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: He worked too. Man and Modola.

1101
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: He's the best thing that happened to me coming over

1102
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: here because he brought my play up.

1103
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1104
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: There's always that competition in the room, and you know,

1105
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: competition makes the best iron.

1106
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 6: Sharpin's iron Man and then a lot of You can't

1107
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 6: talk about this season without talking about the injuries. Gronk

1108
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 6: out Yevreen her Dola was banged up early. Big Vince

1109
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 6: went down the week before this with an achilles, but

1110
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 6: just a decimated Ordroma right.

1111
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: Before before the season. That's why our offense looked like ship.

1112
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 4: Yeah at his weapons out.

1113
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: So we were so our team was built for the

1114
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: twelve personnel. We were built for two tight ends. Rob

1115
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: didn't play the year, Hernandez gets locked up and then

1116
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: we have all these receivers that are like basically just

1117
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: complimentary receivers to what that was.

1118
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 4: It's like, you got this is the transition of our team.

1119
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 4: That's true. I was. He's a monster. You loved him.

1120
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean you would have loved him. You guys are

1121
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: fought at practice.

1122
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 5: That's cool, that's a part of it.

1123
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: But he worked hard. He practiced hard. He knew every

1124
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: he he was never you can never like stump him

1125
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: with like a question or anything. He was in his playbook.

1126
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: He just he talked outland as ship. But everyone just

1127
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: looked at him like he's a wangster, Like yeah, right

1128
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: about that. He was about it. He was about it worlds.

1129
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: He was about it. But he was, dude, he was.

1130
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: He was one of the best football players I've ever

1131
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: been around because he was big, fast, you should he

1132
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: could move physical, physical.

1133
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: He ran his like routes like a basketball player.

1134
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 4: You know.

1135
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: He would he would like cross you up at the

1136
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: top of his route and he could get out of it,

1137
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys want to do that, but

1138
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: they can't get out of it, you know what I mean.

1139
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: He was fucking the real deal.

1140
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: He ain't ground together. That's just crazy that like that existed. Now,

1141
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: who was your least paid trick? Who's your least favorite

1142
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: patriot to play? Is there a guy on you battled.

1143
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: That I just did not like playing against m hmm,

1144
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: I would say slave, slate slater later. Yeah, I hated him,

1145
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: Like I would take double his ass time he get

1146
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: off the bus. Bro. He just had a motor and

1147
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: like I enjoyed doing the pump returns and kick returns

1148
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: because that was my way of getting back on the

1149
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. But like, he's one of

1150
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: them guys that you want to know where he at

1151
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: every time, and y'all was moving them around and ship too.

1152
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: But far as receiver wise, he was a little feisty.

1153
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: But I didn't get to see you much because you

1154
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: was in.

1155
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: The slot and also you I came out later. Yeah,

1156
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: I was like still a baby here. I was still

1157
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: a baby here, and you you were what you're probably

1158
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: like your eighth year here, Yeah, ninth year?

1159
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 5: What is this? Fourteen? I mean thirteen season? Damn I

1160
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 5: played long as time.

1161
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah he did.

1162
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: Now, what was it like prepping for like Tom for

1163
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: you guys? What was because you guys just had to

1164
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: disguise everything.

1165
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: We had to because like I'm telling you, y'all never

1166
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: showed whatever y'all did last week, you're definitely not doing it.

1167
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: The next week.

1168
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: Offense always game planing.

1169
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: New everything is gonna be different. And I never forget

1170
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: we played y'all had just got blew out by somebody,

1171
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: and we had to come play y'all in next week. Man,

1172
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,959
Speaker 2: y'all beat the ship out of us. That's when the

1173
00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: ball flake ship was what was going on and the

1174
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: whole thing we got it had we had the disguise

1175
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: and we knew that he knew pretty much everything in

1176
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 2: the book. Like we was doing shit out there ordinary,

1177
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: like we uncovered two I'll say we had single high.

1178
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 5: I'm ten yards off.

1179
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: I ain't even coming up until the ball is snap,

1180
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: and I might be late making the play in the flats,

1181
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: but like we tried our best to disguise everything until

1182
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: the ball is snap, because if you give any pre

1183
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: pre reads before the ball is snap, he pretty much

1184
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: gonna know.

1185
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 5: What you mean.

1186
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: And we were it looked when you watch the film

1187
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: he had us confused, like we had the wrong game

1188
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: plan for what they were doing. If you watch it,

1189
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: like because I could always tell by what coverage they

1190
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: were playing and what route concepts we were in. They

1191
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: weren't matching, like they'd be playing like some sort of

1192
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: zone and we'd be playing like on a man We'd

1193
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: be doing like a man concept, which means they got

1194
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: us pre to stay in the play with their disguise.

1195
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: And usually if you're running a man concept against you know, zone,

1196
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna work.

1197
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 3: That's how guys get blown up, you know what I mean.

1198
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: So it's that's the chess match pre snap that DB's

1199
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: defensive guys always talk about when they have to disguise something,

1200
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: they're trying to get the wrong play in for their offense,

1201
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: and they were doing it very well this game.

1202
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zom did a good job of disguising with us.

1203
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: That's why that mugging the A gap thing, what I

1204
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: was just talking about earlier, we pretty much did that

1205
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: shit the whole.

1206
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: Game, mugging the A gap being two guys in the

1207
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: like the two linebackers are in.

1208
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 5: The A gap, you don't know if they're coming or not.

1209
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 3: So and when he.

1210
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: Said they jump out the cloud, that means that's covered

1211
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: two like a zone zero means they're all coming, or

1212
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: they can do like a ward or they can drop

1213
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: a guy funnel like all the they'll play you man

1214
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: and funnel you into the middle and they'll drop one

1215
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:00,959
Speaker 1: of those guys.

1216
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: So that guy comes out and picks you. So that

1217
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 3: was it was good stuff.

1218
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 6: So two and two since he coming into this one

1219
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 6: coming off a loss to Cleveland seventeen to six. So

1220
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 6: AJ Green was balling as well. We talked about himis

1221
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 6: in his third year balling out. Patriots enter this thing

1222
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 6: four and oh, two and oh in the AFC, just

1223
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 6: coming off a win against Atlanta, but Vince Wilfork towards

1224
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 6: Achilles at game, so that was a big loss.

1225
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 4: Going on the road here too.

1226
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 6: Sincey trying to get this road win without big Vince

1227
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: in the middle, should we hit the.

1228
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: Game real quick?

1229
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1230
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 6: Game wise, from the beginning, these guys were getting to Tom.

1231
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 6: He started off with a big Geno Atkins sack, follow

1232
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 6: that up with a Wallace Gilbery sack, and it was

1233
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 6: clear this was gonna be a tough day getting Tom

1234
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 6: off the spot dropping guys. We saw that on the tape,

1235
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 6: dropping a lot of guys getting those coverage sacks.

1236
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: Pack almost picks off time.

1237
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: We're pe dropping fools on third down and then you

1238
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: guys were getting rushed with Gino Atkins and we were like,

1239
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: I was like, there's like four guys around me, will

1240
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: we right?

1241
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 4: Am I running?

1242
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 6: He's uncomfortable all day for Tom and the offense pack

1243
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 6: almost picks off Tom at middlefield on a third and

1244
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 6: seven at the end of the first quarter, which was

1245
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 6: which was tough.

1246
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

1247
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 6: And then we get into the second quarter. Andy Dalton's

1248
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 6: first career, first of many red zone interception, rolling right,

1249
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 6: throws back across his body.

1250
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 3: That was Brandon Spike's getting that one.

1251
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

1252
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 6: Patriots go down nothing on offense, trying to manufacture anything.

1253
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 3: We had that end a round of jewels there.

1254
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: So like that interception that Andy Dalton threw, that's like

1255
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: what like every coach preaches to the quarterback, don't do

1256
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: that if.

1257
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 3: You're a kid that wants to know not what not

1258
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 3: to do.

1259
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: But the thing is nowadays everyone does it. Everyone does

1260
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: it now. But that like back in the day, I

1261
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: remember like that when I was playing quarterback, the coach

1262
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: he said, don't even come to the go just go go.

1263
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 4: He kicked me off the field.

1264
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: It was bad, bro textbook bad.

1265
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 6: Then Carlos dune Lapp four, which is a fumble in

1266
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 6: the second, which was big since he takes over their

1267
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 6: own thirty goes down.

1268
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: You guys have ballplayer. Finally get some points in this game.

1269
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 6: A Mike Nugent field goal makes it three to nothing,

1270
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 6: and then, to avoid being shut out for the first

1271
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 6: time since twenty eleven, Patriots get a drive going Steve.

1272
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 4: O gets a forty two yard er three to three

1273
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: at the half. It's a slot.

1274
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 3: It's an ugly, grinded out game. We'll be right back

1275
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: after this quick break.

1276
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: Halftime. What are you guys thinking? Just keep it close, Andy,

1277
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: don't fuck the game. I mean, yeah, defense has been

1278
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: balling forcing. I mean, if you go by the drive chart, Patriots.

1279
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 6: Punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, fumble, punt, field goal.

1280
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: A high level question just being in the NFL when

1281
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 4: there's clearly like the defense is better than the offense,

1282
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 4: or the offense is clearly better than the defense, and

1283
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: it's like starting to cost the team games. Like what's

1284
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 4: that like in the locker room? Is there like animosity

1285
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 4: built up? Or like how does that? How does the

1286
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: team operate that has such disparity in the types of

1287
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 4: you Instead of playing well, they're playing.

1288
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could say that I played

1289
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 2: a team like they are just so much better than this.

1290
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: I don't think no team is like that in the NFL.

1291
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: Like you might have better scheme and shit, but talent wise,

1292
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: if you're starting on defense or starting on offense in

1293
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: the NFL, you pretty much got a chance to win

1294
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: the game. It ain't just died in that they're better us.

1295
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 5: Now.

1296
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: A lot of shit come down to third down. You

1297
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: win third downs, get the field position, do good on

1298
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: special teams. You give yourself a chance, you know what

1299
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: I mean? But I don't know. You've been on way

1300
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: better teams than I have.

1301
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: I mean, like internally, like, look, this year's Bengals team,

1302
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 4: Like the offense is putting up crazy numbers, but how

1303
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: many games did they lose from the from the defense? Like?

1304
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 4: Does that start to eat at the locker room? Yeah,

1305
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 4: I've never been in those shit.

1306
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: I haven't been in a situation where like that, So

1307
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: it's hard I have with Andy.

1308
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: Does it eat the locker room of art? I ain't

1309
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: gonna eat apart. But we end him up with like,

1310
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: god damn, can he just fucking not turn the ball

1311
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: over like it was? You start you started hearing a

1312
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: little little noise in there, especially when we playing a

1313
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: fucking eighty play game. Yeah, back to back eighty plays,

1314
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: eighty plays, eighty plays.

1315
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 5: That's a lot of players, So.

1316
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: Eighty plays for them means it's a lot of three

1317
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: and outs for though oftense.

1318
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, not great.

1319
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 6: Speaking of three and outs, also, this was a great

1320
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 6: I mean, this was no shortage of punts in this game.

1321
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 6: Jewels you up in the second half of the big

1322
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 6: twenty four yard return, but then BacT you were out

1323
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 6: there returning them early.

1324
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: Why they put bringing tape back there?

1325
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 5: I was tired as hell.

1326
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 4: I feel that.

1327
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I had the choice to go back there

1328
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 5: or not.

1329
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 4: Okay, I feel you.

1330
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: And then like if it's end over and kick put

1331
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: take back fifty Yeah, wasting my time. And I don't

1332
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: like fair catching. I think I got nine fair kitches

1333
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: in my whole career.

1334
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 3: That ruins. That ruined my average.

1335
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 4: Average.

1336
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: If you don't like the fair catch. Yeah, like all

1337
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: these kids at fair catch, they have great averages, right,

1338
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: but if you got dog and you might have lower

1339
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: average because you don't fair catch.

1340
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 2: And I fucking learned that out about pro bo too.

1341
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: I had I forget what you was at. I had

1342
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: a lot of good returns too, and I miss leading

1343
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: the NFL bout yards about like I think maybe a yard.

1344
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: I had a five hundred thousand dollar ball. It's in

1345
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: our contract, my much best thing.

1346
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 4: Coase.

1347
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: Hey, stupid motherfucker. All you had to do is fair

1348
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 2: some of these balls. You'd be all right.

1349
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it was.

1350
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: It was also tough for us because we're going with

1351
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: against Hester Hester.

1352
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: His average.

1353
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: I had a fifteen to two average one year his

1354
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: average was eighteen. It was a record, like and thirteen

1355
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: is an insane average.

1356
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, like that bash and

1357
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: he had a hell of a special team the year two.

1358
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: Who the Bears? Bears they always did, Yeah, they always did.

1359
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 4: Its unbelievable.

1360
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 6: I mean he alone has fourteen punt return touchdowns just

1361
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 6: once a factor.

1362
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 4: And kicks Hall Famer for specialties. I mean it's nuts.

1363
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: Now, this became a torrential downpour in the fourth in

1364
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: the right.

1365
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 5: Two men is this change? I think three minutes unbelievable.

1366
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 6: Uh, Patriots go no huddle a lot before well fast,

1367
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 6: Well we got a rewind, we got me and me

1368
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 6: and pack had a match up and he actually got

1369
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 6: the best of it on the red area.

1370
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 4: This is this is third and I dropped it third

1371
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 4: third him.

1372
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: I dropped it from the one jewel.

1373
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: Still, I was still like in the hype of like

1374
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm playing against pac Man Joe's goes the strip clubs

1375
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: and ship like that's how I hyped. I was playing

1376
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: against pack man. He's over here trying to fucking take

1377
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: him off my head and ship.

1378
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 4: I was like, what the what kind of ship? Would

1379
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 4: you say to him?

1380
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 3: He probably said he was saying, you're white boy, slow

1381
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 3: ass white boy. But I got him on a stopper.

1382
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 6: He felt the speed there it is, oh man, So

1383
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 6: Patriots had to settle for three there?

1384
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 2: Uh?

1385
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 3: Packed with the with the great PBu on that one

1386
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 3: in the background.

1387
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 4: Was a drop.

1388
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a p I think I dropped it.

1389
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 5: I think I got my hand through.

1390
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1391
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 5: The pictures around, I don't know. I don't know.

1392
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 4: It was breast Jean's territories. Get the pink wristbands? What

1393
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 4: are we doing?

1394
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 3: Did you see that they had pink flags back in

1395
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: these days? They were throwing pink flag.

1396
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 4: They were going d with the pink dog.

1397
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 3: Uh, man and then so that brings us to.

1398
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 6: So we we talked about the past breakup, the Patriots

1399
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 6: getting another field on there.

1400
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 4: So it's thirteen six.

1401
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 3: A comeback is still possible. Moving down the field, the

1402
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 3: rain is coming down insanely hard.

1403
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 4: Now, So when when the rain starts to come, Like,

1404
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 4: are you guys swapping gloves? Is there anything you're doing

1405
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 4: differently now that the rain is changing so much? Gloves

1406
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 4: close anything else, cleats or anything, or just gloves.

1407
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 5: I'm too late in the game.

1408
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: I think this swap the cleo, but we we really

1409
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: kept the same cleats because the field draft.

1410
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, the thing is so it starts pouring like

1411
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,719
Speaker 1: it's two minutes drill and we just get the ball

1412
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 1: and we I think there's like a buck twenty or

1413
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: something for us and we have to go score. Yeah, metaphore,

1414
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: you can win or to try to win your touchdown.

1415
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: I look at Dola and it's fucking pouring rain. It's

1416
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: a trential downpour, and I'm like sitting there. You always

1417
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: always go to, like the center, the center always had

1418
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: a little extra dry towel. I'd always hit the center

1419
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: for little and I'm looking at everyone's towel, and Dola

1420
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: finally fucking grabs my towel and he throws it.

1421
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 4: In the roads.

1422
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 3: There is no fucking towels right now.

1423
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 4: There is no towels the fun and you lost and

1424
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 4: then we lost.

1425
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: There were so many drops on that last rive.

1426
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 6: It was just coming down so hard. But I mean,

1427
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 6: credit to this Patriots offense. He ended up getting in

1428
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 6: the field goal range, getting in scoring range from the

1429
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 6: twenty seven ended it, I know, get down to the

1430
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 6: twenty seven.

1431
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: And God for Reggie on his play though, Why because

1432
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 2: we was in cover three and it was all go, yeah,

1433
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 2: and Reggie was like, look, just bail, I'm gonna get

1434
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: the fucking number two guy. I promise you just stay

1435
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: in between, but I'm gonna get the number two guy.

1436
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: Do not let him throw the fade to the number

1437
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: one guy.

1438
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 5: Look at the matter. Fuck you know it's gonna be

1439
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 5: all go, And so is Shits think it was all go.

1440
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 4: I'll go.

1441
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: Play at the Philadelphiagos ran that everyone's bitch about the

1442
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: last whole week. This all goes like a that's kind

1443
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: of like playing three hard play.

1444
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 3: This seems usually open.

1445
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's the three bar one formation.

1446
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: I think too it was try to get the guy

1447
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: in the crosser, then bring this guy here, so you

1448
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: put that safety in a predicament because we knew we

1449
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: weren't gonna win on the outside.

1450
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 6: Back ended it with with twenty six seconds left. Tom

1451
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 6: Brady's streak of fifty two straight games with a touchdown

1452
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 6: pass ends and that sealed the game thirteen to six.

1453
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 6: Bengals win it.

1454
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: Hey, dola, if he didn't fucking spash about he on

1455
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,440
Speaker 1: the goal line, I know, flopping.

1456
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 4: Around like a dead fish on the goal line. It

1457
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 4: looked like a beatle.

1458
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 2: When you put him on his back, He's like, kid,

1459
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: get out. Oh my god, God that for three game?

1460
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 4: What a game? All timer?

1461
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: Man, dude, Now rank this rain game, snow game, cold game,

1462
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: hot game.

1463
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 3: Which one would you rather play.

1464
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 2: In as a DV or pump return or I just

1465
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: say either?

1466
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 5: All right? I like I would rank snow games number one.

1467
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: Punt return.

1468
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: That that tells me for pump return because you always

1469
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: have the better footing as a punk returner.

1470
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah you can, you can slide.

1471
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:20,440
Speaker 2: I would go ring game number.

1472
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: Two because offenses don't want to throw the ball right

1473
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: and it's slippery balls. Tip balls equals interceptions for pac

1474
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: Man means more strip club.

1475
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 5: I will go cold game number three.

1476
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: Cold cold game.

1477
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: That's that's a ballsy move because usually cold game defense

1478
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: don't want to tackle, but ship pac Man wants to tackle.

1479
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: The All those guys don't want to get hit when

1480
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: it's cold either though.

1481
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: That's true and hard, harder to catch.

1482
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: And I will go hot game last, just because you

1483
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,919
Speaker 2: pull most ship in the hot games, ham screens, groans

1484
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: and ship.

1485
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 3: It's a grind. In the hot game, you gotta drink.

1486
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: And me going out the night before, you gotta take

1487
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: a ivy before that at.

1488
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 3: Least, and then maybe even halftime.

1489
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 4: I vie for you.

1490
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't really like. I hated going playing down

1491
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 2: in Miami.

1492
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1493
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: We the September game in Miami was brutal. We lost

1494
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: every year in the sideline zero shade and they put

1495
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: you in the color and they'd be in the white.

1496
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 3: So you get hotter. We know your fucking tricks, Yeah did.

1497
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 5: In the cold games, we got to heat the bitch

1498
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 5: right there.

1499
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 4: That's true. I like cold games too.

1500
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: Because it was always an advantage too for people that

1501
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: didn't like cold games, like when we playing like the

1502
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: Chargers in the ASC Championship or something, and they're coming

1503
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: from LA.

1504
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 3: It's fucking twelve degrees outside.

1505
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 4: There's no way they're going to want to play.

1506
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 6: It's like Derwin James out there the other day in

1507
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 6: shorts and like no shirt, no fay, nothing, trying to

1508
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 6: act tough.

1509
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 4: It's only thirty. I know.

1510
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: Nah.

1511
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 4: I like Derwin.

1512
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: I like Derwin all week. I had to hear about

1513
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: him like he was Ed reed Man, Drummy nuts Man.

1514
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: But the San Diego got mad because I said they

1515
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: had a no name defense or l A.

1516
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 4: The difference good.

1517
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: He's two week plow two is really good.

1518
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: Like whatever his name is, yeah, Khalil Mack. This is

1519
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: fourteenth year or something, he's been around. Wow, you know

1520
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1521
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: It's tough.

1522
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 4: It's a little no name if to me at least

1523
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 4: sided like two or three dudes.

1524
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: Now, pac Man, what would you guys do after you

1525
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 1: guys won this game?

1526
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 4: Was it?

1527
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 3: You guys were pretty hyped?

1528
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we had we had a long light, nice

1529
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 5: long night.

1530
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 3: Now what was coach Lewis like after a big win?

1531
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 5: Coach Lewis always been the same.

1532
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 3: Just chill, chill, all right, fellas.

1533
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, around next week, You'll sure emotions there or

1534
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: not then. But because Lewis was even q zim zim is,

1535
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna know if he's happy or not. Goddamn immediately.

1536
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 4: How do I pack.

1537
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 5: Getting in the a gap?

1538
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: Bill lay Gap didn't got the game ball after this one? Yeah,

1539
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: you got a game ball. Oh that was I mean

1540
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 1: that was you guys outplayed us. This was wasn't even close.

1541
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a good night.

1542
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 3: It was a good night.

1543
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 6: And then uh, talking about the the rest of these seasons,

1544
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 6: the Patriots went twelve and four six times, and eleven

1545
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 6: seasons they went undefeated at home, lost of Denver in

1546
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 6: the AFC Championship game.

1547
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 3: Had to go out there twenty six sixteen. Keep we

1548
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 3: got hurt. Yeah, he didn't get hurt. We would have

1549
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 3: won the game. Shot out key man.

1550
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 6: Uh, since he would finish eleven and five, won the

1551
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 6: AFC North as we mentioned earlier, but then would lose

1552
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 6: to San Diego in the wildcard around twenty seven to ten,

1553
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 6: and that was a third straight wild card loss for.

1554
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 2: Game.

1555
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, dogg it, you know, like that's like that right there.

1556
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,799
Speaker 1: I just went down memory road, like I watched these Niners.

1557
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: I'm like it's got to catch up to him. Not

1558
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 1: having your best defenders. Because we we were playing against

1559
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: a good Denver team in AFSC Championship.

1560
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 3: They're really good.

1561
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: Granted we lose one player a keep to leave and

1562
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 1: literally we lost the game because it fucked up our

1563
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: whole You know what I mean. You lose one of

1564
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: your guys. How can San Francisco go on a run

1565
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: when they're missing all their guys. That was when they

1566
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: cheap shot it to keep too, wasn't it. Yeah, it

1567
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: was on the pick yep. I remember that bullshit.

1568
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 3: People don't forget we miss anything from this game pack.

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01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 2: Nah.

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01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's name the game and let's score the game.

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01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: Let's see where it ranks. We got some of these

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01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: names that we came up with. If you have a

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: game that you uh, if you have a name that

1574
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: you want to call it, we can do that. We

1575
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: have the Rumbling the Rain game. We have the Make

1576
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: It Rain Game. I like that one the pac Man

1577
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: called game pac Man called game game over the Mike

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01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: Zimmer game.

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 3: Which one do you like?

1580
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be not selfish and I'm gonna go with

1581
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: the Mike Zimmer game. There it is the game plan

1582
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,520
Speaker 2: that he put together was fucking unbelievable.

1583
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 3: All right, I think we could do a hybrid though.

1584
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 3: What if we do the Mike Zimmer.

1585
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 4: Make It Ring.

1586
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Mike Zimmer Make It Rain.

1587
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 3: Brought Picture Zimmer Magic City Making Ring.

1588
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: That would be so funny to have Mike Zimmer at

1589
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 2: Magic City. Oh, that would be some funny ship right there.

1590
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: Now, what would be the first thing you do if

1591
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: Coach came up there? Would you like, do you have

1592
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: like a spot there that's your spot or anything?

1593
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 5: Magic?

1594
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm always in age, so.

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01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: They'd have they would they would come up and they'd

1597
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: have your drink ready for you, and hey, coach, come

1598
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: over here, man, try to They got really good chicken wings.

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01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 3: Coach, you you hungry?

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny that you're saying that.

1601
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 5: Just you got to see Free Bird.

1602
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to tell everything, but all right,

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01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 2: Magic City is in there.

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01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 4: I got to check it out. Check it out back week. Man,

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01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 4: if we come to Atlanta, can we go with you? Yes?

1606
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 4: More than as far as American.

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01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 2: I will have a ball, some of the best food

1608
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna eat, some some good eye candy.

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01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: Conversation.

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01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 4: That's great.

1611
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: Conversation Williams inspired win great food, great great bar, a

1612
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 2: great mixology. When people think of Script club, they don't

1613
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: think of a party. Right in Atlanta, the Script. If

1614
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 2: you ain't going there to get no pussy, you ain't

1615
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: going You can't even pay for them. Most of these

1616
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: girls are fucking making way more money than the average

1617
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: blow joke. Nine are in school somewhere. But it's more

1618
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 2: of a party in entertainment than I don't know. You're

1619
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: holding the wall well, Julie coming out with half addressing

1620
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,879
Speaker 2: them half of Yeah, for sure.

1621
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: These are well oiled American establishments. Let's score the game.

1622
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it?

1623
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: Decimals and courage pack stakes of this week five regular

1624
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: season game zero to ten decimals encouraged.

1625
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 2: I would say far as the team, I would give

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 2: it an eight point nine because we came back and

1627
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: went on around after that.

1628
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 5: We was two and two when we played all.

1629
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 4: I like that.

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01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: That's some good explanation right there. Context, I'm gonna go

1631
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: with the five point four. You know this is early

1632
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: in the season. This early in the season. I don't

1633
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: want you to get mad or anything. In our grading scale.

1634
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: We've done World Cup championships, We've done.

1635
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 4: The Gold medals.

1636
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 3: Gold medal is you know, we've got to star power though.

1637
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: Stower encouraged a lot of stars here though, So I'm.

1638
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: Brady the best quarterback ever, So you gotta put it

1639
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: up there with the star power. I'm gonna go.

1640
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: Decimals encouraged eight point eight point zero. Good score, it's

1641
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: a good score. I'm gonna go with the eight point two.

1642
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: I agree, I.

1643
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 4: Got seven point eight at seven point two.

1644
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: The gameplay of the game, now this could be taken

1645
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: in a different bunch of context, but as a viewer,

1646
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: as a player, whatever you think.

1647
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 3: The gameplay of this game was Ship.

1648
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 5: We won Team.

1649
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 4: I like it.

1650
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 3: Gameplay for me.

1651
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: Got hammed up on one. So I'm gonna go.

1652
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 5: I got a PBu on you.

1653
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: I got himmed up. I'm gonna go with the seven

1654
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: point nine. I'm an offensive guy. I want to see

1655
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: some more points.

1656
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 3: I went four point three.

1657
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 4: I was.

1658
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 3: I was really hurt on this one as one.

1659
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 4: Who the fuck is scoring this thing?

1660
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: The name of the game we scored the name of

1661
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: the game that we came up with, the Mike Zimmer

1662
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: make It Rain game. I like that that's gotta be. Yeah, baby,

1663
01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: I gotta go with the nine. I might have to

1664
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: score min I think I went low before I knew

1665
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: what it was. I went with a three point. Oh yeah,

1666
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: I didn't know we were gonna pick that one. I'm gonna

1667
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: go with a. I gotta give it an eighty five

1668
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 1: at least eight five.

1669
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 4: What does that happened? A five point?

1670
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 3: Let's see where we are calculating.

1671
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 4: The six point eight two, which that will put us

1672
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 4: at our new the ninety fifth game.

1673
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: It's still above a Stanley Cup final.

1674
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we gotta fix that nine point eight two. It's

1675
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 4: just behind the twenty sixteen Olympic Men's Rugby seven rugby

1676
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 4: and Rio and just ahead of the twenty eighteen Stanley

1677
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 4: Cup Final game five Capitals versus the Golden Night.

1678
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: What's that AFC Divisional realm? Who is that with Broncos

1679
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: and Patriots?

1680
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 3: Oh gronk. That was the T Bowl, the T Bow

1681
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 3: We ended T Bow?

1682
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1683
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: Oh t Bomania Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, we had to

1684
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 1: put them down.

1685
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this quick break.

1686
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 4: This is the front the top of the list, if

1687
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 4: you care, man, little Patriots. Heavy to be yeah, to

1688
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 4: be expected.

1689
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 3: I actually scored the lowest at all of them.

1690
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 4: It is true.

1691
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 5: What did the World Series ring this year?

1692
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 4: We need to be top top Yeah, for sure. That

1693
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 4: game seven Hound credible.

1694
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 3: We'll put it right there at number one.

1695
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 5: We have the game.

1696
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: Dude, He's what we all thought. Babe Ruth was like,

1697
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 3: he's insane.

1698
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 1: He throws twenty strikeouts and have two dongs, two dogs

1699
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 1: that'd be tight at the park out of them. Pac

1700
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: Man would't miss anything about this game.

1701
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 5: Nah, set my PBu.

1702
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: I'll give him to Hey man, If I get p

1703
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: BU by pac Man, it's a hell of a day.

1704
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: It's a hell of a everyone. Go check out the

1705
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: pac Man Jones Show. Politely raw or pack Got pack?

1706
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: Pack out the pack?

1707
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 5: Got the pack.

1708
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 4: How many podcasts we've got now?

1709
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: Bro? No, no, no, see that's the weed right there.

1710
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 2: Pack got the pack?

1711
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 3: Pack got the pack. Great name, great name.

1712
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: Find of the cookies fired in Ohio? Can you see

1713
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: the guarden?

1714
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? Anything else?

1715
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 2: I got a country music song coming out on the

1716
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: twenty Let's go, yeah man, Jimmy Allen. It's called Tailgate.

1717
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 1: Tailgate, play a little, we get a little clear exclusive exclusive.

1718
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 3: Yes, Tailgate with Jimmy Allen.

1719
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 5: Drove it down a little the tailgate.

1720
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 4: Let's see what we got, fire it up tailgate. Who

1721
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 4: are the best musicians turned for actors turned athletes turned musicians.

1722
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: I have that Dion Sanders CD back there, had taking Dog,

1723
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: ab had a.

1724
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: Couple of levet bell.

1725
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 2: Don't love me burg.

1726
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: Got a little reggae b to it. That's you packed. No,

1727
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: that's just pretty good.

1728
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, this this is pretty much a.

1729
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: I got you, you got me guy, fot you breaking?

1730
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 3: This is a sec right here.

1731
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 4: This is song. Yes, hope you get pulled down from

1732
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 4: YouTube flash that thing. But it actually comes out today. Oh,

1733
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 4: come release day, which is next Tuesday. So yeah, come

1734
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 4: check it out.

1735
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 5: I'll get it all right now.

1736
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 3: Run up those streams.

1737
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 4: That's why we were wrong on those playoff predictions that

1738
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 4: already happened.

1739
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 3: But the song, the song is out today.

1740
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: Lincoln Bio, Tailgate, buyer it, Jimmy Allen and the pac

1741
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: Man Jones.

1742
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 4: So fire pack.

1743
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on, man, dude.

1744
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: Appreciate you for having me. Boy, you know it's always

1745
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 2: a blessed always.

1746
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: Well, that's been another episode of Games of Names. Subscribe

1747
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,439
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1748
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1749
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,000
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