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Speaker 1: in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Lady and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us. It's fourteen

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Speaker 1: days until the NFL Draft convenes in Nashville, Tennessee. Draft

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Speaker 1: We'll carry you all the way through the draft as well.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us here along with Dane Brugler, David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: Kent Garrison, Executive Producing. We'll always talk about this if

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Speaker 1: there's enough time to do everything we need to do.

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Speaker 1: You want to look at that one more player, maybe

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Speaker 1: try and figure us all out. Guys, the hay is

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Speaker 1: getting pretty close to be putting in the barn for me.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I know Dane doesn't. Dane's got one more guy.

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Speaker 1: There's always another guy, another stone you can look under. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: How confident are you that you have watched every player

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Speaker 1: that's going to get drafted probably ninety eight percent and

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Speaker 1: there's always a few that so as cats on our

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Speaker 1: show for three years. Seriously, but there's always the lifeblood

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Speaker 1: money at him in Freedency. We welcome everybody that's listening

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Speaker 1: and they are hunkering down, like, yeah, these things have

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Speaker 1: this thing together. Speaking of putting together, Dane Brugler put

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Speaker 1: together one of the most incredible things I see every year.

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Speaker 1: He did the actual entire draft, the entire NFL draft.

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Speaker 1: What was the final number on the picks? What two

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Speaker 1: fifty four was the last number from one to two

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Speaker 1: fifty four. He put this thing together. Check out his

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Speaker 1: Twitter feed at dp Brugler to look at that and

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Speaker 1: uh in h find a way again to to like

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Speaker 1: I say, to look at it, duddiot. This guy is

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the business when it comes

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Speaker 1: to his mock drafts. He knows these players we've talked about.

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Speaker 1: That's why he's on the show with us all this

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Speaker 1: time because he does know these players. I want to

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Speaker 1: get in Dane to your mock draft of the Dallas

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Speaker 1: the way, guys, we're gonna have the Twitter on the

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Speaker 1: twenty as we always do, and then we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: another little game which I enjoy playing, is like who

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Speaker 1: would you rather? Okay, and so Dane and I are

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Speaker 1: going to go through that. Dave's got the names and

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Speaker 1: it comes down to it. But Dane, I want to

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Speaker 1: start with that pick at two fifty eight. Again, when

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Speaker 1: You went with Juan Thornhill, the safety from Virginia. Some

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Speaker 1: fifty eight Deebo Samuel. I listen, y'all know how I am. Like, sure,

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Speaker 1: Like I know that doesn't mean that I can't bang

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Speaker 1: Trade back? Is that? I mean? I'm just I just

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Speaker 1: heard a lot of quality names right there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: then how far back are you trading? I'm just a

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Speaker 1: well this is and that's help me and we're not

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Speaker 1: trading away from that cat, but you would trade away

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Speaker 1: break it down. Why. I just think that Rap for

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Speaker 1: there's no way I'm trading away from Thornhill at there

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Speaker 1: be willing to trade up for a guy to like him. No,

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Speaker 1: Guys were trying to convince me that we needed to

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Speaker 1: But but but now, all of a sudden, Raps not

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Speaker 1: the same show. No, that's not what we said. Yes, Rap,

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Speaker 1: I think we would all take Rap over Thornhill, all

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Speaker 1: If Rap is not there, Thornhill is there. I'm not

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Speaker 1: my And again, they brought in Willis. You guys know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about Michigan State. That's like I said, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just telling me who they brought in. No,

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Speaker 1: they might, they might, dope, sure they might. Safety is

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Speaker 1: guys are buckled in on this safety, aren't you know what?

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Speaker 1: And well, look at what they've done, Brian, Like, look

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Speaker 1: free agency. I don't know our Twitter scouts out there

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Speaker 1: saying they prefer Savage over Thornhill. That's actually I love Savage.

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Speaker 1: Save it, that's a that's a Twitter question. Save it

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Speaker 1: because I'm curious about that. But I want to and

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. You know, you're you're sitting here saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's he's the box safety, that's what they want, which

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Speaker 1: know is it's so hard to imagine that six months

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Speaker 1: that matter. He's just a natural at free like we

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Speaker 1: drafted him to do this, but he's a better free like.

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Speaker 1: They do that type of stuff all the time. So

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Speaker 1: give me the better all around player. I don't care

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Speaker 1: if he fits what they're looking for right now. Triston

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Speaker 1: Hill defensive tackles, Central Florida. They're hunting defensive tackles, aren't they.

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Speaker 1: David Holmett, they sure are. Brian brought us. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna look at defensive line. Even with de

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Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence in the fold, Robert Quinn on this team,

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Speaker 1: they're still gonna look at defensive linement inside and out. Sure,

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Speaker 1: if you can get that penetrating three technique, which Tristan

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Speaker 1: Hill I think we believe can be that guy. He's

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Speaker 1: a thirty visit. I think at ninety it was really

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Speaker 1: good value. Now there's a name, a couple of names

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Speaker 1: Anthony Nelson, why why are you exasperating? I'm just there's

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Speaker 1: always gonna be an I'm excited because then it gives

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Speaker 1: you options. Okay, I thought you were frustracted. Anthony Nelson,

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Speaker 1: throw my pen I get frustrated going one pick later. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Nelson Iowa defensive end liked him right. Uh, if

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Speaker 1: they want to go tight end, Warring went right after him. Oh,

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Speaker 1: San Diego State hold that thought. If they want to

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Speaker 1: go offense, McCole Hardman right, went right after him. Um,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Evans went right after him. Now now now I'm out.

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Speaker 1: They've they've showed interest in Bobby. I'm out now. So

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Speaker 1: I don't will Will not take a player from Charleston

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Speaker 1: The smallest school that's not the Will McClay era. What

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Speaker 1: and I respect you. No, No, I totally. He was.

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Speaker 1: And some names right after him, Carl Granderson for Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: I'm kinda gonna pushing him away. We haven't seen him

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan before Give me Herd before him.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna draft the wide receiver, give me her

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Speaker 1: Herd ran four six three. Yeah, it happened. This burlap

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Speaker 1: He must still be bothering him, you think not no

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Speaker 1: and ran a four to three at the pro day,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about the Kentucky defenders. There's you know,

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Speaker 1: a half dozen. These guys aren't getting drafted. He's the

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Speaker 1: one in the secondary who didn't get invite to the

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Speaker 1: combine tall drink of water. Who athleticism is there? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know? He can stick to receivers. It's just he

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Speaker 1: doesn't really have a fuel for coverage. He doesn't. But

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Speaker 1: he's basically here in the seventh round. It's pet project

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Speaker 1: for Christian Sharpe. Put him on the track, just put

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Speaker 1: him on the practice squad, and like Christoph Sharp, the

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Speaker 1: measurables alone would get him picked in the sixth. If

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Speaker 1: he's in two forty one. Yeah, if he'said two forty one,

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Speaker 1: whoa what what gas mask? What happened? Maybe that's a

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Speaker 1: n Xavier Wood situation where you trade up into the

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Speaker 1: six exactly. That's it. I just realized that Bryce Love

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Speaker 1: which I mean, hey, yeah, what's six picks right? Defense? Yep,

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Speaker 1: you got that right. As much as I would love

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Speaker 1: to see this team draft the receiver, I think you

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Speaker 1: can get away. I mean, you need a running back.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, I think you could get away with

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Speaker 1: not drafting anything the way this is yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: mean you still have hopes for Noah Brown, right right,

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Speaker 1: for lance LEANOI we still have hopes for them, and

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Speaker 1: that's not really a bad fallback plan if they don't

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Speaker 1: drafts what our Boyse State receiver from last year, Wilson.

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Speaker 1: So I think this team does not need to draft

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Speaker 1: the receiver if they don't get their guy and say

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Speaker 1: I yeah, Will McClay has spent big picks on Boise

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Speaker 1: State players, but I consider that like the best of

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Speaker 1: think so too. So now for my undrafted I'm just

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Speaker 1: on the twenty. Take it away, Tiny Jem, Thank you, Edward,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. I hinted at this in the first segments,

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Speaker 1: so I'll jump right into it with a question from Brady.

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Speaker 1: He wants a comparison. He's talking about Wan Thornhill and

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Speaker 1: Darnell Savage. Let's just say they're top two players available.

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Speaker 1: He says, who fits better with Dallas. I just want

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Speaker 1: to know, in general, like a thumbnail, a comparison between

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Speaker 1: these two guys. We talked a lot about Thornhill, haven't

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Speaker 1: talked as much about Savage. Cowboys don't seem to be

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Speaker 1: as interested perhaps why just kind of break those two

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Speaker 1: down for me. Well, I think they're both interesting because

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Speaker 1: they have corner safety versatility. Both thorn Hill is a

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Speaker 1: safety for two years or thorne Hill is a corner

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Speaker 1: for two years before he moved back to safety. Savage

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Speaker 1: was a corner when he arrived, played a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but he's moved to safety pretty quickly at Maryland. Savage

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Speaker 1: is a little undersized, and that's what I think you

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Speaker 1: worry about in a safety because he's just below He's

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Speaker 1: about five ten three quarters one hundred ninety eight pounds. Ideally,

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Speaker 1: you want to safety as bigger than that. Thorne Hill's

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Speaker 1: over six foot two hundred and five or six pounds,

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Speaker 1: so the size advantage goes to Thornhill. That's that's a

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Speaker 1: big part of a safety because you're talking about a

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Speaker 1: guy who's it's it's a physical position. You have to

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Speaker 1: be able to hold up some Some teams won't even

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Speaker 1: draft a sub two hundred pound safety, won't even consider it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why Thompson from Alabama's having some issue right now.

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Speaker 1: I believe that in the injury and nobody really is

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Speaker 1: sure what he really runs, that risk keeping him from running,

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Speaker 1: which I don't understand Dane. Well, I'll tell you this though,

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Speaker 1: I think Dane nailed both these guys. I think if

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Speaker 1: you're either one of these guys can cover. I think

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Speaker 1: both these guys show really good range when you watch

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Speaker 1: them play, you know, and that's you know, you're looking

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Speaker 1: for a guy. It's a free safety type of guy.

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Speaker 1: And this day and age is a safety. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be able to cover a little bit, you know, you

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Speaker 1: gotta be able to go. If they asked you to

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Speaker 1: plan the slot a lot of it, you could argue, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean they asked Xavier Woods his rookie year, they

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Speaker 1: threw him in this slot and asked him to play,

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Speaker 1: and he held up pretty well. And so I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, Savage and Thornhill, either one of those

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Speaker 1: I know, to get into Uh, we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: our little thing. Who would you rather? You know? And

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Speaker 1: that would be a that's a good who would you rather?

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Speaker 1: Right there to me? Thorne Hill and yeah and Savage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you think that it's Savage's size that kind of

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Speaker 1: pushes him out of the commerce hundred ninety eight pounds.

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Speaker 1: He's five to ten four. I believe it is what

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Speaker 1: he is. I think I'm right about that. It's five

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Speaker 1: and six, six, You never you never know for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys have drafted guys that they haven't

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Speaker 1: been strongly linked to obviously, Like all six run now,

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Speaker 1: all six of their picks are not going to be

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Speaker 1: thirty visits. Yeah all right, but we just haven't heard

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Speaker 1: a lot about him and three five and I love Savage, um,

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Speaker 1: and he's sixty eight on my board overall. Um, I

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Speaker 1: just have Thorne Hill whenever Jeff Thorne Hill. I have

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Speaker 1: a new top one hundry coming out, thorn Hills forty seven.

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Speaker 1: So okay, So yeah, that's well. And I love Savage.

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Speaker 1: I was talking about him when nobody was in the fall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, like he's he's a player that pops off

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Speaker 1: the screen because of his place, be the way he

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Speaker 1: can jump route make play is um. But it's just

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Speaker 1: the size does worry me a little bit. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I view him as an early third and not

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Speaker 1: a mid second. Like so you've got two guys who

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Speaker 1: can really read and react to that's I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: it's a fair it's a fair comparer. He's got him

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Speaker 1: a part. But I mean I I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I would either one of those guys, I'd be okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll think either yeah too tall. Yeah, here's something that

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Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about since. Probably the combine good

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Speaker 1: point in my opinion. He says, with what Dallas has

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Speaker 1: done in the offseason and free agency, has that made

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Speaker 1: the Blue Star Special aka Jeffrey Simmons more of a

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Speaker 1: possibility or is it so unrealistic to think he falls.

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Speaker 1: I'd be shocked. I'd be surprised if he's out of

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Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, New England sitting at the back

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Speaker 1: end there, somebody like that. New England's got so many

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Speaker 1: picks where they can they could take a hurt player

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Speaker 1: and and make it work. Like I just hate saying

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Speaker 1: no chance, but I would put it at maybe one

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Speaker 1: percent chance he gets to fifty eight. Just bums me out,

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Speaker 1: because I really they have done such a good job

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Speaker 1: acquiring talent and free agency that I would love to

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Speaker 1: make that pick. I don't care that he can't play this.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, it's funny. First, I know

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Speaker 1: if they still had their pick at twenty seven, damn right,

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Speaker 1: I'd do that circle that bad boy. Absolutely, I'd be yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'd be talking about that as a possibility. Question. I

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Speaker 1: love this question from King Q because it's Cowboys related,

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Speaker 1: but not really well sort of. You'll see. He says,

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Speaker 1: as a Cowboys fan, how should I feel if the

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Speaker 1: Giants select Dwayne Haskins? M I'd feel better if you're

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys fans. That's there, you go, that's the crux

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Speaker 1: of it. Like, are you excited because you don't think

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Speaker 1: he's good? If you're a Cowboys fan, I think you'd

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Speaker 1: rather than take Daniel Jones. Yeah I do too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's thank you, Thank you for saying that, because I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm about fed up with and I'm not a quarterback whisperer,

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Speaker 1: but I'm pretty fed up with this pre draft hoop

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Speaker 1: law that Haskins might be the fourth best quarterback, he

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Speaker 1: might be the fourth drafted. I think it's possible, which

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Speaker 1: is insane. I agree, why the one year sample size

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Speaker 1: bothers people? And then just the so he's not the

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Speaker 1: best at negotiating the pass rush and he's not very mobile, fine, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: finding the second change strong. I mean, he was standing

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Speaker 1: there and make throws all day, but you got you

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Speaker 1: gotta protect today's NFL. Yeah, you have to be able

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Speaker 1: off platform. He just doesn't. And I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily think it's a talent issue. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: an experience issue. It's experience. He's playing a lot of

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Speaker 1: huge games. Though you can't just can't, I mean for

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Speaker 1: one year quarterback. No, he has played some huge games

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Speaker 1: and but you you, but you have I think you

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Speaker 1: football like. I think that's why. I think that's why

630
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is intriguing to people that they're they're looking

631
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: past the height because he's so mobile. One year sample size, yep.

632
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I try to avoid hot takes, but

633
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: I just don't buy that this. I don't buy that

634
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is a better quarterback than Dwayne Haskins. I

635
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: don't either. But I would not be shocked if I

636
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: would not be shocked Withdrew Locke is draft ahead of Haskins,

637
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: I would not be shocked at Daniel Jones as draft quarterback.

638
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: At Beauty's and they on the beholder and New England,

639
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: did you see New England visit a couple of those guys. Yeah,

640
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: Locke and those guys smart, Yeah, they went and visited

641
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: a couple. They got a couple those guys coming in. Yeah,

642
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of draft capital. Yeah. So if

643
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: one of those guys, the big storyline going into the

644
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 1: draft would be how many of those four are going

645
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: to top seventeen picks? Yeah? Not the Giants had that

646
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: seventeenth pick, how many of the top four going top seventeen.

647
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised of all of them go that high,

648
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: but if one of them might fall a little bit, yeah,

649
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: you can bet New England. Oh, they'll be on the phone.

650
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers, Chargers be on the phone. If

651
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm if I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan. Chargers

652
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: moving to new stadium too. I'm praying that the Giants

653
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: take Daniel Jones. Oh, I absolutely praying. Yeah, they decide

654
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: they don't want Dayne Hask Yes, you know what the

655
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: Giants Gettleman he will take he will take a big

656
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: ten player, he will he will gentleman will do that. Yeah.

657
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: But I think when you look at Daniel Jones, that's

658
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: the Giants. Okay, Giants do that but you look at Eli,

659
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Eli Manning connection there, I think I

660
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: think that that would be really appealing. Yeah, just to

661
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: be able to keep that continuity, that's a very great point.

662
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: I think that it could be. Yeah. No, if Daniel

663
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: Jones head coach is Mike Smith. You know, like, are

664
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: we still talking about Daniel Jones the way we are?

665
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean probably not, So that matters a lot, just

666
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: how he was tutored, the Manning influence, and that's why

667
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: I think for the Giants, that's why we're the connections

668
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: being made, and I think we'll be made up until

669
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: draft day and we find out who they pick. Daniel

670
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: Jones reminds me of Nassib just I mean, not not

671
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: as a player, but like just all kinds of pre

672
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: draft type and yeah, go away. Sorry, sorry, Daniel Jones.

673
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: Giant fans feel are really good about that. Eric says,

674
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: here's it. Okay, we want to talk about guys we

675
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: haven't talked about. Eric says, Okay, we've talked about Zach Allen.

676
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: Ignore that if both Zach Allen and Christian Miller fall

677
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: to fifty eight or they're they're at fifty eight, time,

678
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: Zach Allen and Christian Miller, the Alabama linebacker. They're looking

679
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: at this guy's a linebacker, that's linebacker kind He's a

680
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: tweener kind of guy, right, huge by the way, saw him.

681
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking kids. He makes some guys on

682
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: the Cowboys roster look puny. He's huge and give him

683
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: a sky report on the grits. Here. Just these these

684
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: two guys, These two guys. And how do you feel

685
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: about Christian Miller in general, because he's a guy that

686
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: they brought in who we really have not talked a

687
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: lot about. There are a lot of people hire on

688
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Christian Miller than I am. I don't. I like him.

689
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: But first off, he couldn't stay healthy in college. I

690
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: think he started a total of like four games his

691
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: entire career. Like he just he couldn't stay healthy. I

692
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: like his ability to get up field and affect the

693
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: quarterback from the edge. But again, if they're looking at

694
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: him as a linebacker, yeah, I don't know. I I'm

695
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna let someone else drap him. I kind of you know,

696
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: he's a guy with dange right though. And I was

697
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: looking at my notes. You know, he plays like as

698
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: a stand up defensive end or an outside linebackers. Really

699
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: what he plays at. I think this guy's got some

700
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: snap to him. No, when you you know, when you

701
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: talk about a rusher, he has a rusher you know

702
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: when he when he gets on. I mean, he's got

703
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: some things. He's really quick with his hands. But I

704
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: you know what, I just kind of feel like though

705
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: that that if you if you draft him, he might

706
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: be if they're looking at him maybe as a Sam linebacker,

707
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: that that would be kind of where I would think

708
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: that they maybe would play him. I hate everything you're saying,

709
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: do you yeah, because you hate Sam linebacker. I hate

710
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: Sam linebackers. Drafted fifty eighth overall, Yeah, I don't. There's

711
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: it would make no sense that they draft him fifty eighth.

712
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: To me, I don't know. I don't get it. Can

713
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: he put his hand in the dirt and rush the past?

714
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: The problem is I think he's he needs to develop

715
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: some passer orsh moves though. I saw a guy that

716
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: tries to win on quickness and it doesn't always work

717
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, that when you don't win with quickness

718
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: and that's your game, you better have something else you

719
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: could win with. And that's why I think maybe they're

720
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: looking at this guy as a linebacker and maybe a

721
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: hand on the ground guy in Nickel. But I didn't

722
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: see a guy that had I mean, if he didn't

723
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: win with a quickness, he wasn't gonna win. You know

724
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 1: how many, um you know what the percentage of snaps

725
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: was for Damien Wilson last year? Twenty eight Yep, nailed it.

726
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: That's the second round pick, twenty eight percent of the snaps.

727
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: No go away. Sorry, you guys really draft a running

728
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: back there? That I would? I would. I would rather

729
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: draft a running back at fifty eight and I don't

730
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: want to, but I would. It's if it came to

731
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: the Christian Miller running back, you'd take. Yeah, the running back. Yeah, especially,

732
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean so you're probably getting like the second or

733
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: third blast running back in the class. He just went

734
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: against you on that one. Huh. Well, no, I mean

735
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: I would. Christian Miller's way too rich at fifty eight. Yeah,

736
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean, I agree on the concept of

737
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: running back over a linebacker, but I would I'm putting

738
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Miller as a pan on the ground end in that scenario,

739
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: then you better teach him how to rush the past. Yes, So,

740
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: and that's That's basically all he did on days In

741
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: the scenario Eric presented, would you both say you'd rather

742
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: draft Zach Allen then yes, because I think Zach Allen

743
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: could play defensive tackle k Yeah. Yeah, he's your your

744
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford and they move on from Tyrone Crawford. This

745
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: will be your new Tyron Crawford. I think this guy's

746
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: name is Dane actually, tweet day three, your goal is

747
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: to draft the most polished route runner available. Name three

748
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: options at wide receiver. Most polished, polished routould be available

749
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: on day three. I think you would go Stanley Morgan

750
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: from Nebraska. Well, that's a good start. Six foot, two

751
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: hundred pounds, not the you know, he's a four or

752
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: five athlete, not going to necessarily separate with ease with

753
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: his quickness, but he can a little bit because he

754
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: is a sharp route runner. Um. How about the kid

755
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: from Fresno, Keisha John Johnson. Yeah, I think he's a smooth. Yeah,

756
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: he's very fleet of foot. Yeah. Um, it's quicker than fast,

757
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: and that you see that in his routes. Jacoby Myers

758
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: from NC State. Jacoby Myers would be a good one.

759
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: Guy we saw at the senior Bowl who not. I

760
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: mean he I'm surprised how slow he was. He ran

761
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 1: a four six three at the combine. But he's able

762
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: to be productive because of his routes. Yeah, so in

763
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: a former quarterback, he's really become a natural route runner.

764
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: So I think those three names right there would make sense. Yeah,

765
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: definitely from cal Davis. Davis, Yeah, yea, he had. He

766
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: just had his pro day last week and did fairly well,

767
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: low four fives. But another sharp route runner, very kind

768
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: of a tactician at the position. Sure. Anthony Johnson Buffalo Beyond, Yeah,

769
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: big guy, you know, and all these guys are kind

770
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: of like four or five athletes, you know, who don't

771
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: have elite speed, but they are able. And we're talking

772
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: about day three for a reason. But they are very

773
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: sharp with their with their routes. Keep an eye on that.

774
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: The Keyshawn Johnson from Fresno. Okay, seriously, that guy. You

775
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: watched the tape of him. I mean he makes he

776
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: is in and out of breaks. I mean there's not

777
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of wasted motion with the way

778
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: play I have him. I have him more like almost

779
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: like a fourth round guy. You know. He was named

780
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: after who h Johnson real Keisha Johnson. He was born

781
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: six months after Keishan went number one, and his dad

782
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: was a big Keishaw Johnson fan. Okay, the USC guy.

783
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: Dad was the USC gut. I didn't know if that's

784
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: really who he was named after. Keishaw Johnson went to

785
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: the same high school as Davante Adams uh and then

786
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: followed him to Fresno. And you know, maybe I fall

787
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,200
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789
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Speaker 1: there's a ton of work going on right now, and

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Speaker 1: your thing it's it's done. Yeah, but the drafts done.

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Speaker 1: I will push it out there. DP Burglar on that

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Speaker 1: you all should do? He'll have that when the Beast

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Speaker 1: is ready to be it'll be well worth the way

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Speaker 1: over four hundred reports. Um, it just there's way too

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Speaker 1: much information in there. Skill Brand's waiting for that right now,

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Speaker 1: is all right? Dave Helmet In the last fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: or so, I do want to get to this. Who

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Speaker 1: would you rather help us out here? I would love

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Speaker 1: to help you out Okay, and I really yeah, all right,

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00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: we'll just go down. Yeah, these are the list of guys. Yeah,

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00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the position I want to talk

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Speaker 1: least about. Okay, who would you rather North Carolina State

878
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: linebacker Germaine Pratt, or which we already know the answer

879
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: to this if you've listened to the show Hawaii linebacker

880
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Jilani Tavai. My boy, exactly is that gonna be? Is that?

881
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Is that a tough one for you? Or is that

882
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: a there? I mean that there are what four and

883
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: five on my rankings, so I mean they're pretty closely rated.

884
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: But taking my boy to Vay, who I don't know,

885
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: people sleeping on them and talking about them all year,

886
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: and he's he's a He's exactly what the NFL is

887
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: like in tremed to an extent to former safety versatility.

888
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: Give me to buy inside outside can play all three downs.

889
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: I just didn't do so much. And I think he's

890
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: because he's out of sight, out of mind. Maybe he's

891
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: been hurt with the shoulder. Yeah, people haven't been talking

892
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: about him a lot. But give me to Vay and

893
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: I'll feel good about him. People are gonna be surprised

894
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: when he comes off the board in the second round,

895
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean that's that he's a good I

896
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: got Pratt in the second round too, though. Yeah. I

897
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: really like Pratt, and I mean this guy for such

898
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: a long guy six two on a half to forty

899
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: he could redirect, I mean, and both. That's why I

900
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: think that both these guys are very similar because you

901
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: watch the way they get outside the tackle box. You

902
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: watch to say that the way they were able to redirect.

903
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: You watch the way they play downhill. These guys can tackle.

904
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're really very similar to each other.

905
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying about the Hawaii kid. I

906
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: just feel like though that Pratt might be just a

907
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: little bit better though when it comes to playing in

908
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: coverage and stuff like that. That's just my opinion on that.

909
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: I got him really close. So I mean, I I'm

910
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: not gonna disagree with you strongly. Um, I think, yeah,

911
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: either way, you're coming home with two really good players. Yeah,

912
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: if you, if you either whoever drafts these kids, isn't

913
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: that kind of the point of the exercise. Yeah, no, absolutely, Yeah, no,

914
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: no that I would take Pratt over him if you

915
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Speaker 1: had to, if you, my tags would be proud over him.

916
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: Sixty three and sixty nine on my report on my

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Speaker 1: top one hundred sixty three price sixty nine. Kurt Daniels

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Speaker 1: just emailed me to let us know there are hard

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Speaker 1: copies available. Again, we got a new printing of the

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Speaker 1: draftmag Okay, and that's it. The Barnes and Noble saying

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Speaker 1: what did Yeah, you can go to you can go

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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys shop and Ferst shop and then Cowers

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Speaker 1: dot com. Right, yeah, okay, I'm sorry about that. I

924
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Speaker 1: should have been better prepared on Nick. Okay, Dan, do

925
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Speaker 1: you like sushi? Yeah, you're supposed Tomahawk shop. Okay. Whatever

926
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: was I supposed to say? I was gonna these are

927
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: both raw prospects. That was That was the jokes. But

928
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Speaker 1: now it's okay, blue Steak. Look, there we go, Pittsburgh,

929
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Blue. Yeah, there you go, San Diego States, Kahale

930
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: wearing Mississippi's Dawson knocks. That's good man. Rather, I think

931
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: those are those are two you know, second third round

932
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: safety or tight ends guys in date on day two

933
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: that after you get past the top three, assuming it's

934
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: gonna be the two Iowa guys and Alabama's or Smith,

935
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: who's gonna be a next tight end off the board.

936
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Speaker 1: It could be Warring, could be Knox, could be Sternberger.

937
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: Warring and Knox both, like Dave said, are raw. It's

938
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: upside picks. You like the tools, very toolsy guys and

939
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: Eileen Warring in that in that case. But you know,

940
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have a huge difference between them.

941
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking knocks. I'd say it knocks. You watch

942
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: him get down the field and Mississippi five times he

943
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Speaker 1: did it not yeah, I mean yeah, no, but but

944
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: it's no. But it's like you're thinking, when they did

945
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: throw him the ball. I mean, he's making stuff happen.

946
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: Wearing is really raw. You're right about that. He didn't

947
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: play football. He's a water polo Goldie and stuff like that.

948
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's got some reach to him in

949
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: length and things like that. He's a great athlete. I

950
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: think I would go Wearing over him over Knox and

951
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: I and I really I like Knox to a point.

952
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't think any of them are great blockers, but

953
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: I thought both of them were really good with the

954
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: ball in their hands. So I would probably go with Warring.

955
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: That's you know, give me the guy six six two

956
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: fifty four. You know, yeah, I'm Warring. I think Warring

957
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: is actually a pretty good blocker, considering, yeah, he's only

958
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: been doing it for a couple of years, the fact

959
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: that he had a google with tight end meant when

960
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: he got to Sandeo State. Sure, so I'm pretty impressed

961
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: with his blocking. For a guy that's so inexperienced, you

962
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: have to draft them both at fifty eight, you would

963
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: think yeah and no, just no, thank you. I know.

964
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm scared. I don't think either we'll get to ninety.

965
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: That's fine, there's no way that either get to ninety.

966
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm doing two good athletes for not

967
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: when somebody drafts Dawson Knox with his thirty nine career

968
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: catches at fifty or at fifty seven, I'm who's our

969
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Iowa kittle throwing is an example at Iowa did not

970
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of receptions well, and I get it

971
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: the nature of like, no, like there aren't any college

972
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: tight ends in this day and age that just have

973
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: other worldly production, at least not very many, right, So

974
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: I get that, but man, that's that's scary for me.

975
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Cornerback uh Michigan State's Justin Lane, George's DeAndre Baker, m

976
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: hm um, I have them closely rated the whole. I'm

977
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: just kind of playing along with the game. Um, let

978
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: me see how far apart I have Baker slightly ahead.

979
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: I've got Baker at in thirty and Lane at thirty five,

980
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: So I think one, Justin Lane has bigger upside um.

981
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: You know, wide receiver. They moved a corner tall long.

982
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: I think he's the only I believe in my corner rankings,

983
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: the only corner had over an eighty inch yeah, yeah,

984
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous for a corner and have that big

985
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: of a wingspan. Um, But Baker is just I've seen

986
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: him do it on the highest level of college football. Yeah.

987
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: I think his ability to anticipate routes, timement up the

988
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: catch point, and you know, just be disruptive, I think

989
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: is something that I'm going to bet on over Justin

990
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: Lane's upside, even though I do like his upside. It's

991
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: why I have him ranked thirty five overall. With Lane,

992
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: it's there's some spacing issues. I think he'll get it

993
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: figured out. It's just gonna take some time. Baker not

994
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: a clean prospect by any means. There's some questions about

995
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: his attitude and he's gonna work at it, and his

996
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: pre drift process wasn't great. So but again, I've seen

997
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: him do it at a high level at Georgia and

998
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: so you know, I would bet on that over the

999
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: upside of Lane. This guy's got some really good feel

1000
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: how to squeeze receivers off the field. Baker. Yeah, he

1001
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: is one of those guys which comes to positioning. You

1002
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: know when when a guy turns and tries to get

1003
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: up the field on him, he will use his body

1004
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: to and he will push. Did it against Deebo? Yeah,

1005
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean he will push wide receivers completely off the field.

1006
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: You're right about him playing it really high level though. Two.

1007
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: I just thought the reading reactions the ball was really

1008
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: good too, So you're going Baker too. I'm going Baker there?

1009
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: Where did what was your discrepancy? Thirty and thirty five? No,

1010
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm upside. What do the Cowboys have? They have like

1011
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: a hell of a dB coach, right, like a really

1012
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: good one who's got a track record of developing fifth

1013
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: round picks into all pros. And Justin Lane's like custom

1014
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: built for what he wants. Yeah, give me that, especially

1015
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: if you tell me effort and attitude or question marks

1016
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: with Baker, then I'm even more or so in on

1017
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: Justin Lane, I think for this team, Yeah, I would

1018
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: not be surprised at all if they had Lane rated

1019
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: higher than Baker because he is I mean justin lane

1020
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: six two, one hundred ninety pounds thirty three in arms.

1021
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: If you told me Lane and I don't, I know,

1022
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: I understand he probably won't be But if you told

1023
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: me he was there at fifty eight, even without an

1024
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: immediate need at cornerback, I would be elated to make

1025
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: Lane over Williams and Jawan Williams right from Baker. Would yeah, okay,

1026
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: I've got um Lane Julian Love then Joe one Williams. Yeah, okay.

1027
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: Wide receiver Baylor's Jalen Hurd and Toledo's Deonte Johnson M

1028
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: couple late third, early fourths. Maybe um, those two Lado

1029
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: receivers are kind of fun to watch. All three of them? Really?

1030
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: Are all three? You're gonna get drafted? Yeah? Yeah, I

1031
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: would go Deonte Johnson, I think, what will you? I

1032
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: just I like watching her with the ball in his hand.

1033
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: He said it, he said it. There's something about herd

1034
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: you watch him catch the ball in the move, and

1035
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: that said former running back mentality. Johnson is good, dude.

1036
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: That's why I was thinking about the comparison. Yeah, that's good,

1037
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: But but I I give me heard, just because I

1038
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: feel like though ball in hand, on the move, snatch

1039
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: the football, get up the field, make something happen. He's

1040
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: that guy. He's in. If you're talking about third fourth

1041
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: round guy, give me that guy. I agree. I'm gonna

1042
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: bet on the speed of Deontay Johnson, his ability to

1043
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: separate and create, yeah, because he I mean, I think

1044
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: you're right about the running back mentality, and I think

1045
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: you nailed Herd, But I'll take the guy that's just

1046
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: a little bit better of a space athlete, you know,

1047
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: like where he's gonna able to create on his own,

1048
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: be elusive, b shifty. You can line him up everywhere

1049
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: on the offense, and I think you can do that

1050
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: with Herd. But we've only seen him really as a

1051
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: big slot, you know, like we don't know can you

1052
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: survive as an outside receiver consistently. I'm thinking his body

1053
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: type of will allow him if someone grabs him and

1054
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: coaches him the way that he's able to he understands

1055
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: how to work inside right, that somebody will figure out

1056
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: how to work right. And I think he can't. We

1057
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: just haven't seen him do it, so you know, I think, yeah,

1058
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: it's hurd is really I expected him to run better

1059
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: at the Pro Day, and so that four six is

1060
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: a little bothersome. And the fact that we're gonna have

1061
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: been a senior Bowl couldn't see him the combine that

1062
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: bothers me. But I still I would take him in

1063
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: the fourth round. I would just take Deontay Johnson ahead

1064
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: of him. All Right. I need y'all to hustle with

1065
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: these last three because we're running or defensive tackle a

1066
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: couple of big school guys who aren't generating a ton

1067
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: of buzz. Penn States Kevin Gibbons. Auburn's Dontavius Russell ranked

1068
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: back to back for me, Larry, I mean, hi, I think, well, flip,

1069
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: it depends what you want. I think ones a nose tackle.

1070
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: One's an upfield guy. You know quickness, and so if

1071
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: you want the nose, then Dontavious Russell is your guy.

1072
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: He's this big, massive guy. Yeah, he's not gonna give

1073
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: you range. He's not gonna give you a big, wide

1074
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: area of impact. But he can handle double teams, he

1075
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: can two gap, he can hold his own on the inside,

1076
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: work off blocks, and make stops first to run. Not

1077
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: gonna give you much as a pass rusher. No. Kevin Gibbons,

1078
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: on the other hand, is disruptive, pretty raw. Yeah, you know,

1079
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: he's still figuring things out. He was a linebacker in

1080
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: high school. Yeah, played more a little bit of d N.

1081
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Then he played like as an undertackle at Penn State.

1082
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: But he's that quickness guy. You need to be a

1083
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: little more creative with him. Again, So it just depends

1084
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: on what you want. If you want to undertackles, guy's

1085
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: gonna be more quick than anything. Take Givens, you want

1086
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: the power from those tackle you Take Russell from Auburn. Yeah,

1087
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Russell's a really nimble athlete too.

1088
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: Saw him pick up a fumble in one of the

1089
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: games and and take off running with it, And I'm like, going,

1090
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: whoa three hundred nineteen pounds getting up the field like that.

1091
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: Where we where are we getting these guys? I mean

1092
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: you have him back to back, but where Yeah, four, five, six, six, Yeah,

1093
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: so it's in the fifth probably that fifth, Yeah, paid

1094
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: it's in the range where it would be conceivable for

1095
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: this team to draft the nose. Yeah. Five at five

1096
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: one sixty five, we had a linebacker and he had

1097
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: Holcombe going there. Yeah, but I'll tell you what, I

1098
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: would rather have either one these guys, probably more than

1099
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: Kemiski at four one thirty six. Which one do you

1100
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: prefer between the two? Gimme Russell. Okay, I just saw

1101
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: a big mammoth man. I'm surprised to hear you say

1102
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: you'd rather have the trash can full of dirt than

1103
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: the pass rusher. I just kind of feel like, though,

1104
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: that they need three techniques, just no quick. The Russell kid,

1105
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: if I didn't see him, and I didn't see that,

1106
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: his masks makes him hard to block. They can't cut

1107
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: him off when he gets going, and they can't cut him.

1108
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: They can't do that. So give me Russell, give me,

1109
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: give me the tackle. All right? This is the best one.

1110
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: And yeah you alluded to it running back. Yeah, Oklahoma

1111
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: State's Justice hill A and M's tray ViOn Williams. I

1112
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: like this a lot. I don't think you can go wrong,

1113
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: to be honest, but I'm taking Justice hill I think why.

1114
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: I think he's more fun. He's more fun. I beg

1115
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: to differ there, Sir David, I watched seven over times

1116
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: or this kid that save kid killed us. If you're

1117
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: an LSU fan or State fans, he probably disagreed with

1118
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: what he with Trayvon Williams did those defenses. But Justice Hill,

1119
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: you get him, give him any type of space, he'll

1120
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: manipulate it. He'll I just think he's and I've got

1121
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: both these guys as three fours, as borderline top one

1122
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: hundred type guys. I just I'll take the athleticism of

1123
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: Justice Hill over Trey ViOn Williams, who I like, I

1124
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: just don't know, I don't love. I'll tell you what.

1125
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: They're both explosive players, aren't they one tested like I'm

1126
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: explosive about? Yeah? How about that film though shade? Whoa mister,

1127
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: mister there aren't any good football programs in the Big twelve.

1128
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: How about the guy that set a school record in

1129
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: the SEC? How about the guy literally he was the

1130
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: best back in the SEC this year and that's a

1131
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: league that has been pumping out. Isn't that saying much? Though?

1132
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: Not that Nick was starting in the SEC. It's you

1133
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: don't throw shade at my friend. Okay. First of all.

1134
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: Second of all, you look at it, look at the

1135
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: backs that have come out of the SEC in recent years,

1136
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: and I mean, yeah, the talent this year's little down.

1137
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: But this one how many he had fifteen hundred yards

1138
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: in the SEC West and I've got him back to back.

1139
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I've here's the most complete back between the two.

1140
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: If you're looking for more of a complete back, then yeah,

1141
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: Drayvill and Williams will give you that. Well, you're talking

1142
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: about one, doesn't you're looking for all I am because

1143
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: the other guy, the other guy who I I agree

1144
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: with you on Hill, But I see a guy that

1145
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: truly struggles as a pass protector. If you if that's what,

1146
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: if you're looking for a guy who's a better pass protector,

1147
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: complete guy, then sure I would understand Travillon Williams. I

1148
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: get that totally. Yeah, But if we're just talking, you know,

1149
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: if we're not talking in a vacuum and it's just

1150
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: who would you rather have? I think I could do

1151
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: more with Justice Hill. I could put more points on

1152
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: the board. We think we probably would have to draft

1153
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: either one at ninety right, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I

1154
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: honestly I think that's right where they should be. Late third,

1155
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: early fourth. I said a week ago, ninety felt rich.

1156
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: But either one of these guys, yeah, I'd be fine.

1157
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: I'd be happy with that there, ye happy he's happy.

1158
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: He might be a stretch, but I'd be fine satisfied. Yeah,

1159
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: Offensive tackle Alabama's Jonah Williams and Washington States Andre Dillard

1160
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: cream of the crop, two best tackles in this in

1161
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: this draft in my opinion, Yeah, that neither one of

1162
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: them are on the ground at all. No, Andre Dillard

1163
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: is just so special of an athlete. Give me the

1164
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: give me the aflete dealer be the first tackle taken easily. Yeah,

1165
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: because he's He's got the best feat out of all

1166
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: of them. So yeah, there's no no question he could.

1167
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: But I think the what I saw the senior Bowl

1168
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: of the anchor issues gives me a little bit of

1169
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: pause with him. Sure, Jonah, when I saw a national

1170
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: title game against Clemson, he can struggle for got him

1171
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. Jonah Williams, to me, is the top

1172
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: five player in this draft. Give me Joe Williams. Yeah,

1173
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: he's not wrong, He's not wrong. He's just he's a

1174
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: technically sound player. He's instinctive. He masks his lack of

1175
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: length the same way Joe Thomas did ye first. So

1176
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: long with the Browns. I'm taking Joe Williams at worst.

1177
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: I've got an outstanding guard I think you can play

1178
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: tackle in the league. I would not usitate to draft

1179
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: him top five, top six in this draft. Do you

1180
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: think he can play tackle? Yes, I do. I think

1181
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: you played tackle, But like you don't know though, Like

1182
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: you just said, worst case scenario, you might play guard. Well, okay,

1183
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: that's worst case scenario. Yeah. I mean that's like say

1184
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan worst case scenario, Jonathan Abram, worst case scenario. He

1185
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: can be an outstanding special teams player. I think that's

1186
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: a terrible that's a guy you're taking in the rust case,

1187
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: worst case, But I think he can be more than

1188
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: one day. You're gonna walk away from this and just

1189
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: be so happy, aren't you. No, I mean I don't

1190
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: have a crystal ball. I'm just giving you bestkas worst kids.

1191
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: Are they really close though? Are the two really close?

1192
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: You think? Yeah? Both? Okay, you can see Dillard going

1193
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: in the top ten, couldn't you? Why not? Yeah? And

1194
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: that's what I was thinking too. If you're gonna say,

1195
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, all right, Joey Williams is four, Andre Dillard's

1196
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: nine on my board. I didn't see that guy from

1197
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: UCLA going to the top ten last year. Yeah, I'm

1198
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: just he shouldn't have gone where he did. And I

1199
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: hate to make this comparison. It's unfair to anybody, but

1200
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: like I've spent too much time watching Tyrant Smith. So

1201
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: if you can, and I'm not I'm not trying to

1202
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: make that comparison. But the athleticism, like, if you can,

1203
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: if you're a freaky athlete at that position, I'm very intrigued.

1204
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: You have to be strong too. And that's where Andre

1205
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: Dillard just worries me a little bit because again, we

1206
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: saw the senior ball get rocked by but did you

1207
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: watch Williams gets rocked in the Clemson game. He does

1208
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: he struggles with when long guys gett to his chest,

1209
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: he can struggle a little bit. Question. All right, boys, Hey,

1210
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much again, Thank you for everybody who's

1211
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: hanging out with us today. Again, fourteen more days until

1212
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: we get into the NFL Draft. So we've got several

1213
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: shows still planned for you guys. We've got one again

1214
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: next Thursday, and then we're gonna do two shows draft week.

1215
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: One on Tuesday, we'll do a full mock draft and

1216
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 1: then we'll then we'll kind of have a little bit

1217
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: preview show of draft from the on draft day. So

1218
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: again for my buddies, David Hellman, for Dane Burglar, can't

1219
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: get signed, Brian Brass. Thanks again to everybody out there

1220
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: hanging with us across the country and around the world.

1221
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week for the Draft Show.