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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in hour number two Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Buck Sexton over in Scotland. He'll be

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Speaker 1: back with me on Monday. Maybe new of the new

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Speaker 1: Great Scottish accents. So he missed last night's debate, I

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Speaker 1: guess would have been taking place in the early morning

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Speaker 1: hours in Scotland. But the man who did not miss

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Speaker 1: last night's debate one of many the Veke Ramaswami with

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Speaker 1: us now and I'm sure you're still kind of rolling

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Speaker 1: on adrenaline, Viveke, And what is your biggest takeaway having

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Speaker 1: left the stage? Mine was, Man, they really ripped and

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Speaker 1: attacked you more than anybody. Did you anticipate it? What

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Speaker 1: did it feel like? What's your biggest takeaway?

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Speaker 2: I was happy the result was great for us. I

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Speaker 2: think we came out with a big win. And I

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Speaker 2: wasn't totally shocked because the difference is what you see

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Speaker 2: in the campaign polls are a lot more precise than

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Speaker 2: what you get in the public narrative. And so I

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Speaker 2: started at zero point zero percent in the month of March,

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Speaker 2: I've now entered second place in many of the national polls.

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Speaker 2: But when you see that trajectory change amongst the people

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Speaker 2: who are most knowledgeable in the voter base, that's something

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Speaker 2: that I think worries a lot of the other campaigns,

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Speaker 2: and correctly so, so they can't at me hard. But

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Speaker 2: I was ready for it in the sense that I

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Speaker 2: don't do a lot of traditional prep with canned slogans,

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Speaker 2: but talking to voters across this country, I've been more

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Speaker 2: events than any other campaign. That's been the best form

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Speaker 2: of debate preparation, and that paid off last night, and

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Speaker 2: I was glad to come out of the winner.

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence seems to genuinely dislike you. Did you get

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Speaker 1: that sense on the stage, Like sometimes people disagree. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Chris Christie dislikes you. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to him later. I think Nicky Haley disagrees with you,

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Speaker 1: And certainly I think all of those politicians don't like

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Speaker 1: being challenged by somebody who's not a professional politician, which

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Speaker 1: I think is a big strength of yours. But when

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Speaker 1: I watched Mike Pence, like he seemed to genuinely dislike you,

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Speaker 1: did you get that sense, like did you feel that way?

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Speaker 2: I actually in one of the offline conversations, like.

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Speaker 3: Into the commercial break that congratulated Mike. I said, I

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Speaker 3: didn't know you had that. I didn't know you had

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Speaker 3: that in yet I'm proud of you, is actually what

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Speaker 3: I told him, because you know, he's always a meek man,

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Speaker 3: seems like he's speaking what has been served up to

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Speaker 3: him by his speech writers or handlers. But he really,

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Speaker 3: at certain points, I'll give him credit, did almost seem

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Speaker 3: to be expressing independent beliefs of his own, and I

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Speaker 3: give him a lot of credit to that. So I

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Speaker 3: told him, I don't know how he took it.

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Speaker 1: So, by the way, that's an interesting point because when

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Speaker 1: we go to commercial break, what is happening on the stage.

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Speaker 1: That's actually really interesting. I wonder about that because they

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Speaker 1: go to commercial break Fox News does, and you can't

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Speaker 1: really tell what kind of conversations happened behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: during that commercial break in backstage? What is the vibe

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Speaker 2: Know it was? I think a lot of people find

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Speaker 2: it awkward. I was trying to break the ice a

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Speaker 2: little bit by just having real conversations with people like

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Speaker 2: I lean over to Ron de san As, I just

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Speaker 2: congratulated him on what I thought was a good statement

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Speaker 2: of what our border policy should be. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: glad he had the guts to say what I've been

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Speaker 2: saying the whole time as well, which is that we

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Speaker 2: should use our own military on our own southern border

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Speaker 2: under the circumstances that is legally, morally and ethically justified.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the moderators call on certain people for

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Speaker 2: They called on Ron instead, and I congratulated him saying

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Speaker 2: with Pence, I really was genuinely shocked because part of

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Speaker 2: And that's all we get to. They've never gotten to

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Speaker 2: a subjective policy disagreement. But yesterday on stage, he really

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Speaker 2: I was proud of Mike too. He's always been somebody

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Speaker 2: But he definitely did have an independent, fundamental difference in

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Speaker 2: our party to smoke out. That makes our party stronger,

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Speaker 2: it makes our country stronger. There is a neo conservative

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Speaker 2: dogma that has pervaded the Republican Party for a long

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Speaker 2: time that says, the way we increase our self confidences

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Speaker 2: for some reason at home. And if you want that view,

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Speaker 2: then Mike Pence or Chris Christy or Nicky Haley or

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Speaker 2: any other candidates on stage last night would be your candidate.

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Speaker 2: But my view is different. I think we should lead

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Speaker 2: Americans first, and that's a fundamental rift in the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: I think it is good for our movement when we

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Speaker 2: talk about that in the open. And my own view

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Speaker 2: is that we're stronger at home when we advance the

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Speaker 2: interests of homeland. The way I'm running this campaign is

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Speaker 2: America First means all Americans from Maui to the South,

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Speaker 2: side of Chicago, to Kensington, to places I've visited the

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Speaker 2: latter two certainly in this campaign. I haven't talked to Zelenski,

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Speaker 2: small business voters in Maui who tragically lost both of

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Speaker 2: then using to help the rest of West Maui. That's

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Speaker 2: who I think we ought to care about first before

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Speaker 2: using our taxpayer resources to literally pay the salaries of

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Speaker 2: Ukrainian government officials, which is what we're using our taxpayer

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Speaker 2: dollars to do today. And so people like Mike Pence

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Speaker 2: and I have fundamentally different views there, and I think

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Speaker 2: the debate last night was really useful to smoke out

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Speaker 2: the debate was success for that.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to the veak Ramaswami, the veke I put up,

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Speaker 1: and I started off the show saying that to me,

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Speaker 1: three people stood out the most. You run this antis

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Speaker 1: and Nicki Haley is having a good night. I let

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Speaker 1: people vote, and in my poll, you won with a majority,

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Speaker 1: saying that you had the best night. So people can

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Speaker 1: go vote in that. By the way, I retweeted, it's

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of you have voted in it so far.

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Speaker 1: You and I were two of the first people I

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Speaker 1: out of the head of is you got to pardon

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Speaker 1: President Trump. You're one hundred percent right on that, and

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Speaker 1: you have continued to argue it, and I give you

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Speaker 1: immense credit for it. Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 1: Buck and I had a conversation last week. I think

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Speaker 1: you're right on the principle that our country does not

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Speaker 1: need to try to put a former president in prison,

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Speaker 1: given what Ford did for Nixon. Put that behind Watergate

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Speaker 1: actually I'm curious to how you would respond that it's

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Speaker 1: actually not just pardon Trump, but if you were the president,

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Speaker 1: would you harden Hunter Biden as well? With the idea being, Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's put this idea of putting political people in jail

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Speaker 1: for being politicians and their families and move forward to

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Speaker 1: a new America. Would you extend that principle even to

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Speaker 2: Well, I do stand on principle. But the principal I

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Speaker 2: stand on is the rule of law. We have to

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Speaker 2: have one standard of rule of law for all Americans, period.

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Speaker 2: And so I think a lot of what's going on

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Speaker 2: fabricated smoke screen to deflect attention away from the real thing.

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Speaker 2: We should talk about the real thing. The real thing

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Speaker 2: family is selling off our foreign policy to make the

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Speaker 2: Ukraine right now, the country that we're saying, I.

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Speaker 1: Agree with you that I think they've engaged in criminal behavior.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but this is of the highest order, right

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Speaker 2: taking us closer to nuclear war, spending hundreds of billions

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Speaker 2: in prison. And I would not pardon for that offense.

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Speaker 2: But what I do care about is the rule of law,

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Speaker 2: and I will never be like them, and so I

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Speaker 2: want to see the rule of law proceed. But what

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Speaker 2: we're having right now is the same forces that are

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Speaker 2: politically persecuting and prosecuting Donald Trump were literally made up

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Speaker 2: fictitious legal theories that have never been used to prosecute

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Speaker 2: a defendant before. That's the same Department of Justice that

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Speaker 2: can care less for a lot of the shams that

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Speaker 2: think we have to have, I think impeachment inquiry on

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Speaker 2: the real question of whether or not these bribes are

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Speaker 2: affecting our foreign policy right now in ways that put

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Speaker 2: a potential compromised president of the United States. But I

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Speaker 2: will never preordain a result and assume what the rule

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Speaker 2: will never be them. I believe in the rule of law,

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Speaker 2: and that's what we actually need to restore. But that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that it's good answer. Interesting answer, Vivek Karamaswami, And

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Speaker 1: I think one reason people enjoyed your performance is you

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Speaker 1: say what you think, even if you don't necessarily make

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Speaker 1: people happy in the traditional Republican establishment. And that's why

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Speaker 1: your performance last night in many ways to me, seemed

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Speaker 1: similar to Trump in fifteen when he was beginning his run.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You said Trump is

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Speaker 1: the best candidate, the best president in the twenty first century.

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Speaker 1: If you are running you beat Trump, that means that

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Speaker 1: you think you would be a better president than Trump.

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Speaker 1: What would you do better than what Donald Trump has done.

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Speaker 2: Unite the country? I mean, I think that's what it

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Speaker 2: comes down to. And I think that allows us to

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Speaker 2: take our America First agenda even further than Donald Trump did.

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Speaker 2: And I stand by what I said last night. We

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Speaker 2: have Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump. Who is the best

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Speaker 2: president of the twenty first centrate. It's not even close,

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Speaker 2: hands down if you're judge by the results of that.

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Speaker 2: And yet it made a lot of people uncomfortable, including

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Speaker 2: on stage. You could palpably feel it when I said that. So,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump sets a high bar but we in this country,

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Speaker 2: we don't just aspire to normalcy. We aspire to excellence.

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Speaker 2: That is who we are as Americans. And so it

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Speaker 2: is my job to build on the foundation that Trump

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Speaker 2: laid to take us even further, not just building the wall,

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Speaker 2: putting Betsy Devas on top of the Department of Education

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Speaker 2: and say reform it, shut it down, not just talk

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to lead this country to a national revival

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Speaker 2: And I do think it takes somebody who God willing

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Speaker 2: I don't take any day for granted, but I hope

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Speaker 2: You might have had an outright better vertical period.

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Speaker 1: Hey, my wife's a better athlete than me too, so

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Speaker 1: leveyker Amaswami. I thought one of the best interviews we've

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Speaker 5: I like the debate. The thing that stood out to

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Speaker 5: I can't stand Republicans that love to be and become

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Speaker 5: I just can't take it. And that's how I view

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Speaker 5: years is that they all think they're gonna win, and

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Speaker 5: when they lose, they were not expecting to lose. Al

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Speaker 5: Gore lost the election and then he lost his mind.

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Speaker 5: Hillary lost the election. Hillary kind of lost his mind.

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Speaker 5: John McCain I would say the same thing. Mitt Romney

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Speaker 5: went off the rails, and I it just is because

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Speaker 5: I think they believe in their mind that they would win.

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Speaker 1: Fiers. That's a good point because you have to have

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Speaker 1: of athletes have. You know you'll lose the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It takes sometimes the starting quarterback who loses for a

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Speaker 1: you can do it, and then dealing with that failure

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Speaker 5: It is, but it shouldn't be, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I like, for example, Djokovic when he lost to what's

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Speaker 5: his name Alvarez in Wimbledon, Right, okay, there's no doubt

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Speaker 5: he thought he was going to win that match. He

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Speaker 5: won the first set. I thought he was on his

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Speaker 5: way to winning and get another title. Yes, And first

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Speaker 5: of all, the guy's his opponent is young, amazing, gifted, talented,

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Speaker 5: rising star for sure, and then they're probably going to

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Speaker 5: face each other if I had to guess in the

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Speaker 5: final way of the US Open. And you know, but

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Speaker 5: but I saw a graciousness. He had been through the

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Speaker 5: experience battling Federer and Nadal and those guys. But you know,

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Speaker 5: it's a lot, it's a lot like professional sports. What

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Speaker 5: I find fascinating now is every every single sports show

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Speaker 5: now is all about betting.

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Speaker 1: It's all about betting this one too soon. I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have something advertised. Well. You know, Rush, back

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Speaker 1: in the day before sports gambling was legal, was one

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Speaker 1: of the best people at signing up people for DraftKings

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Speaker 1: and fan duel out there the day you guys did

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Speaker 1: some of this too, some of it a ton of success.

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Speaker 5: I do worry because I think some people that have

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Speaker 5: addictive personalities, this is going to be an epidemic of

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Speaker 5: people getting addicted to gambling that bothers. There's no doubt,

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Speaker 5: and so I think there's a danger of it. But

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Speaker 5: I'm also a person that believes in freedom. You believe

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Speaker 5: in freedom. If you want to mess up your life,

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Speaker 5: mess it up.

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Speaker 1: What do you think by the way Trump is thinking,

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Speaker 1: you may have already talked to him. What do you

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Speaker 1: think Trump is thinking in the wake of last night's debate.

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Speaker 5: You know, I didn't talk to him, yet I'm guessing

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Speaker 5: he thinks that's it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe.

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Speaker 5: Look, I didn't get involved in whether he should or shouldn't.

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Speaker 5: I understand why he didn't. And when you're up thirty

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Speaker 5: forty forty five points in a primary, you know it

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Speaker 5: was a good opportunity for him to look at the

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Speaker 5: competition and size it up. Who could actually challenge him.

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Speaker 5: Conventional wisdom is that you're going to have to whittle

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Speaker 5: this field down and make it a one on one

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Speaker 5: and Republicans that don't want Donald Trump, and look, the

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Speaker 5: guy's good at making a lot of enemies. Yes, the

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Speaker 5: establishment hates him, and they will they have to coalesce

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Speaker 5: around one other person. However, don't underestimate his magabase. What

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Speaker 5: I worry the most about for Donald Trump is that look,

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Speaker 5: these these these indictments, another arrayment, Tonight, fulland County. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's a heavy, heavy load. That's a big burden that

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Speaker 5: he's carrying with him. Now, he could say that his

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Speaker 5: entire presidency he had similar circumstances. He was working under

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Speaker 5: the Trump Russia collusion lie. It takes us five years

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Speaker 5: to figure out the whole thing was total bs. There's

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Speaker 5: something wrong with our system. And Joe Biden up to

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Speaker 5: his eyeballs and lies and involvement and in tens of

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Speaker 5: millions of dollars from many hostile regimes, you know, enriching

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Speaker 5: his entire family, nine family members. Nobody in the media

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Speaker 5: wants to talk about it. Clay, By the way, where's.

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Speaker 1: Buck Buck is in Scotland's he and Carrie. He's not

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Speaker 1: a golfer, but he and Carrie had never been to

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Speaker 1: Scotland before his wife. They are over there. I saw

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Speaker 1: a picture from the Scottish Highlands. He is having It

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Speaker 1: seems an awesome time. Have you been to Scotland.

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Speaker 5: I've not been to Scotland.

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Speaker 1: I've not even been.

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Speaker 5: I have relatives in Ireland, and my sisters have been

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Speaker 5: over there, and they're pissed because they know that all

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Speaker 5: four of my grandparents came from Ireland at the turn

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Speaker 5: I really have a lot to be thankful for. I

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Speaker 5: if even if even anyone would think I'm successful anyway,

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Speaker 1: He'll be right after yours. Yeah, in about an hour

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we'll go to break here, I'll take your calls

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Speaker 1: and we come back. I've been promising that I will

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Speaker 1: the next hour. A lot going on, a little bit

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why it's crazy when we come back.

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Speaker 1: But Fanny Willis, the prosecutor in Atlanta, has requested now

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Speaker 1: remember initially she requested a March fifth trial of next year.

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Speaker 1: She now has requested October twenty third, that is two

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. We'll talk about it in the meantime. If

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. We got several things that I

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Speaker 1: want to update you on. Yesterday, Progozen shot down. I

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Speaker 1: they do not think it was a missile. They think

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Speaker 1: that it was a bomb on the plane that killed Pregozen.

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Speaker 1: I want to clear that up because we were reacting

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Speaker 1: I said, it looked like a missile. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: information is continuing. Also, I said, and this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Fanny Willis, the DA in Atlanta, has now requested a

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Speaker 1: trial date. And I had to ask the team because

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Speaker 1: I saw the headline come across and I said, is

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Speaker 1: she requesting a trial date? I thought this date was

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Speaker 1: going to be in twenty twenty four, because she had

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Speaker 1: initially requested the day before Super Tuesday, a March of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four trial date for Donald Trump. Remember, he

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Speaker 1: is going to turn himself in reportedly this afternoon evening

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Speaker 1: down in Fulton County in Atlanta. But when you actually

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Speaker 1: hear this, she's requesting a trial date for October the

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Speaker 1: twenty third of this year, less than two months from

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Speaker 1: the day in which we are sitting talking to you

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Speaker 1: right now. That is a request that just came down today.

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Speaker 1: I believe we have audio from CNN explaining it. Here's

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Speaker 1: what they said.

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Speaker 7: We just saw a filing from the district attorney here

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Speaker 7: asking for an October twenty third trial date, a special

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Speaker 7: request that they're putting into the court just today because

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Speaker 7: one of the defendants in this case, Ken chesbro, he

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Speaker 7: had said that he wanted a speedy trial that would

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Speaker 7: have put things around November. But now the DA's office

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Speaker 7: Quite clearly, that would be a very aggressive timeline, but

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Speaker 7: one that they seem to be prepared to argue would

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Speaker 7: be within reason for them at least to get to

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Speaker 7: trial for these nineteen defendants.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy, this is unprecedented. They are prosecuting For

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Speaker 1: those of you who have not paid attention. I would

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Speaker 1: bet the majority of you have not paid attention to

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Speaker 1: this case a rapper named Young Thug. They've been trying

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Speaker 1: to seat a jury since January. In that case. The

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Speaker 1: reason why I bring it up is it's also a

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Speaker 1: rico case. There's drug dealing allegations involved. They haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to get a jury seated and they started trying

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Speaker 1: in January. So the idea that they are somehow within

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Speaker 1: two months going to bring charges against nineteen defendants. Isn't

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Speaker 1: just crazy, it's banana land bonkers on steroids. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you want a wigh in. I've been promising we'll

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Speaker 1: take some of your calls. I'm going to try to

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Speaker 1: go fast because Chris Christy coming up at the top

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Speaker 1: of the next hour, and then we'll have more of

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Speaker 1: your reaction. Encourage you to download the podcast because we

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Speaker 1: have covered a ton, including the veke that many of

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Speaker 1: you are responding to. At the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with Joe in Charlestown, Charlestown, Indiana. Joe,

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Speaker 1: what you got for us?

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Speaker 8: Hey, Gley, thanks for taking my call. I just had

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Speaker 8: a couple of points regards Vic Ramaswamy. I feel that

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Speaker 8: his complete lack of hesitance to raise his hand in

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Speaker 8: support of Trump, and then pushing that point forward to

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Speaker 8: even include pardoning Trump really one over Trump supporters that

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Speaker 8: might be on the fence with Trump, worried about all

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Speaker 8: of these things the federal and each of the state

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Speaker 8: governments are doing against Trump. So I have no doubt

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Speaker 8: that the vic could win over suburban women as far

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Speaker 8: as voting goes, as well as other groups that Trump

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Speaker 8: may struggle with and I also feel confident as a

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Speaker 8: Trump supporter that Ramaswami would take care of Trump if

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Speaker 8: he were president.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Look, I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of Trump people starting to think about Vivek not

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Speaker 1: only as a VP, but as a president. And this

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Speaker 1: is the first time I've really heard him make a

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Speaker 1: calculated argument. And he did it. And I would encourage

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Speaker 1: you to go download the podcast listen to it. We

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Speaker 1: may even play some of the audio for you tomorrow

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Speaker 1: from that interview. But he said, I can basically do

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Speaker 1: what Trump did, only better. I can be a better

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Speaker 1: version of Trump, and I think that has some appeal.

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Speaker 1: He's younger, he says that he can appeal to more people.

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Speaker 1: He's not as polarizing as Trump. That's an interesting argument

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Speaker 1: because he's not saying Trump's wrong, which a lot of

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Speaker 1: other Republicans are. I've been saying for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Trump is right on a ton of issues. I actually

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Speaker 1: think he is a bull in a china shop and

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Speaker 1: often blows things up trying to get there. Let's go

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Speaker 1: Kelly in Wyoming. You've got thirty seconds, Kelly, fire Away,

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Speaker 1: Hey Clay.

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Speaker 4: So they keep asking this question of our candidates that

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Speaker 4: do you support Trump? You know, will you support Trump?

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Speaker 4: Will you pardon Trump? Blah blah blah. But honestly, I

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Speaker 4: think that's an irrelevant question. I wish they'd quit asking it.

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Speaker 4: What I really want him to find out, you know,

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Speaker 4: and Trump was on a chummy little chat with Tucker.

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Speaker 4: I want to know if he intends to run as

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Speaker 4: an end and if he can't secure the nomination.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an integral question. Trump has not answered it.

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Speaker 1: He's refused to agree to be bound by the nomination.

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Speaker 1: That's one reason I think he's not engaging in the debates.

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Speaker 1: I think the challenge for that it would be it's

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Speaker 1: very hard to get on a ticket as a third party.

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Speaker 1: But that is a fear if Trump were not the

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Speaker 1: nominee that many have Chris Chrissy next