1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Donald, you're finally in four K and you look so handsome. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Fuck your sale machine, Zach. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for leveling up. Finally, thank 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: you Daniel for assisting himsure this will be the first 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: episode ever. I believe maybe there's another one of fake doctors, 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: real friends that we can put on YouTube in well 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: high resolution. I'm not living my hair today. I wish 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: it was better for this monumental moment. You look great. 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Center part. No one likes. No one likes the center part, Donald, 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Alfalfa, who does. 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Zen z is all about the middle part. They don't 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: like a side part. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: I have so much to George McFly Alfalfa, Alfalfa. I 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: went to Game seven, guys, and I I don't think. 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: I want to miss set to Wow. 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: You're mad that your friend got to go to game seven. 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: No, I'm not mad that you got to go to 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: Game seven. I'm mad because of the outcome you put 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: the fucking juju. 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: You're gonna blame it on me. You're gonna blame the. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: One and it said you're the one that said, look, guys, 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: let's hope for game seven because then I get to go, right, 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: I said, yes, fuck game seven. 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: Let's win it in six. That's the way to go. 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: And then all of you. 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: Guys are like, no, come on, Donald, don't you want 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: them to go to game seven? 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: Well, in this story, I'm the reason they lost. 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: You in my story, in our story, in the you 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: and I story, you are the fucking reason they lost 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: because you just had to go to a game, didn't you. 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: Well, I really had to go. 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. You're gonna think this is crazy 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: because of my whole history of not loving sports, But 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: I gotta say I really have fun going to MSG. 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm a regular now. It's a it's a great stadium. 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: I think I might be going tomorrow. 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: To the next stadium. It's an arena. 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: Oh whatever, fine arena. 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I think I might be going to the Rangers game tomorrow. 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: Nice. 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: The Rangers were also. 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: Your bad luck for New York. Every game you go 44 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: to they lose. 45 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: Yo. 46 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: You're such a bringing that Jersey shit up in there, man, 47 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: bringing that. 48 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: You're saying I bring. You're saying I bring New Jersey energy. 49 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: That's ruining New. 50 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: York's Bridge and Tunnel crowd. You bring that Bridge and 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: Tunnel crowd. 52 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: You don't know that is the new Yorker's negative term 53 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: for people who don't live in New York. They call 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: us bridge and tunnelers. 55 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: Because you claim New York like it's yours, but really 56 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: you got to take a bridge and a tunnel to get. 57 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: Up and I don't take any bridge or tunnel to 58 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: get to Manhattan. That's where I live now. 59 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: When you were younger, this is how you know. This 60 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: is how you know. Motherfuckers would be like, where are 61 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: you from? And you'd be like, oh, I'm from New 62 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: York and it'd be like, oh really, what part? Oh well, really, 63 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm from Jersey. I'm from like right across the river. 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: That's how all you Jersey motherfuckers be acting, and don't 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 3: act like you don't. 66 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: I grew up up in New York City, and I 67 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: know how you talk. 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: I know, but I now, do you agree now that 69 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: I'm a proper New Yorker? 70 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: You a transplant? I'll give you that. 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: What the fuck you talk? I leave heear since like 72 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: ninety nine, Okay, I mean, I mean I'm officially a 73 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: New Yorker and. 74 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: The okay, I'm about to say, what are you are? 75 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: I pay taxes. I pay taxes in LA which I 76 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: guess means you spend six months, right, That's how they 77 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: figure out where you're, wherever you space, wherever you spend 78 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: six months, you have to pick. You have to pick. 79 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: So I think I spend six months and a day 80 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: in LA. 81 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: At least I love New York. I'm not gonna lie. 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: It's so fun right now, dude. It's eighty degrees out. 83 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: People now are fucking happy, right Daniel? 84 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: You know I got the T shirt and by the way, 85 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: we're matching zact we call each other before this. 86 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: I know I just changed into this. I went and 87 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: bought a shirt. 88 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Are the ladies wearing short shirts right now? 89 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Everyone? The men are in their tank tops, the ladies 90 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: are in their sun dresses. Everyone's got a little bop. 91 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Is the jiggle out? 92 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Everyone's jiggling. 93 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: There we go. You would go wrong. 94 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: You can't go wrong when the city's jiggling. When the 95 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: jiggling is I'm gonna tell you something right now, jiggling baby, 96 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: Go ahead, baby, that's all I gotta say. 97 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: Everyone is Is it jingling or jigglingggg? Everyone's jiggling. Everyone's 98 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: feeling themselves. Oh yeah, there was an energy, right Daniel, 99 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: you know what you feel? It I feel it very much. 100 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: So I was walking around green Point earlier today. 101 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: I got my radio Bakery hat and it was nice. 102 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: It was nice point. 103 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: Where's green Point at Brooklyn? You grew up. 104 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: You're bragging about your New York status and you don't 105 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: even know where green Point is. 106 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: It sounds very caucused. 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: What does that mean? What caucas Yes, I'm not go 108 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: you made up a word. 109 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: For waitness caucus caucus. 110 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: I went to dinner with Johnny c McGinley last night 111 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: in New York. 112 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: He's in New York too. 113 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, Johnny came to New York for an event he's doing, 114 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: and we had a really fun dinner. I'm gonna try 115 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: and bring him to the Rangers game tomorrow. Wouldn't that be. 116 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: A hockey Detroit Red Wings fan? 117 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: He loves hockey, and I think I'm trying to get 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: us both into the garden tomorrow since you know I'm 119 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: a regular. Now I got the hookup, I found the hookup. 120 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell them that you're a fucking bridge and tunneler. 121 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: You need to be nicer to me, because there's gonna 122 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: come a point where you're gonna want my MSG hookup 123 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I don't. 124 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: Know I've senior seats. I'm good. I think I can 125 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: do better. 126 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Really listen to you, really, yeah really? As a New Yorker, 127 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't have like Spike Lee seats. Are you saying 128 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: that you have like Spike Lee level seats? I don't 129 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: have that. 130 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: I've sat on the floor a few times at MSG. 131 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: You know that meme where Mariah Carey says I don't 132 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: know her? Yeah, that's what's gonna happen when you try 133 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: and get my MSG hook up. 134 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: I'm not calling your MSG hookup. I'm gonna I got 135 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: all right. 136 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: I just want you to know if and when a 137 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: time comes where you're like, hey, Zach, can I have 138 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: your MSG hookup, I'm gonna do the Mariah carry I 139 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: don't know her. 140 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So the next time you try and get tickets 141 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: to an MSG event and your hookup doesn't come through, 142 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull the Celine Dion shit on you. 143 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: What's that sleep? What's that where the. 144 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: Window roll where she rolls down the window to listen 145 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: for a second, doesn't like what she hears, rolls the window, 146 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: the car drives off. 147 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: I told I was sending Donald pictures of all this. 148 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: They call it Celebrity Row. All the celebrities that were 149 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: on Celebrity Row. They had Tracy Morgan, Ben's. 150 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: Morgan was up in there, Ben Stiller, Brian Fellows was 151 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: in the. 152 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: House, John Stewart, Spike. 153 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: Lee, of course, Jason Bateman. 154 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that there were lots of stars in the 155 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: in the house. But on Celebrity Row, I didn't it 156 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: was Bateman on that initial like Spike Lee Row. 157 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. All I know is 158 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: I know. 159 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: It was fun. It's a blast, you jig. 160 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: That was not a blast. The game was horrible. 161 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the game was horrible, but I don't I'm not 162 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: going to take credit for it. I'm not going to 163 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: sit here and say it's my fault. 164 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: But it is. But okay, we should probably get the 165 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: show going. We got to. 166 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, we have a big show today. We 167 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: have Billy d Williams, the legend. We are so excited 168 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: and honored that he's decided to come on the show. Donald, 169 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, we need to talk to him about his 170 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: illustrious career, not just being Lando. 171 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm a huge fan of his. Actually, I 172 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: followed him for a really long time. 173 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: And you guys have something in common in that you 174 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: both came up and began very young in New York 175 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: City as actors. 176 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm excited. 177 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: All right, here we go one. Donald's gonna count us in, 178 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: and then we're going to bring in the legend. Billy 179 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: d Williams. 180 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: Say stories that show we made about a bunch of 181 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: thos nurses. 182 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: He said, he's a stories. 183 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: Net, so yea. 184 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: Yea se. 185 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Well, welcome mister Billy D Williams. 186 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: It is sounderous. 187 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: Applause, thunderous applause for the living legend, Billy D Williams. 188 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: We're so honored to have you on our show. We 189 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: know that you are out and about talking about your 190 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: new biography, What have we here, Portrait of a Life. 191 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us on on Fake Doctors, 192 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: Real Friends. 193 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 5: Oh, thank you for having me. 194 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: One fun thing for us. That's a connection. I don't 195 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: even know if you remember doing it, but Donald and 196 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: I were on Scrubs for many, many years and you 197 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: did a very very fun cameo for us. Do you 198 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: remember doing that. 199 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, as a matter of fact, I use the footage 200 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 6: whenever I do these conventions. 201 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, that's so is it me screaming? 202 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 5: You are hysterical? 203 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: You are you? 204 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: Your reaction is hysterical. Anyway, I'm well, man, I'm really well. 205 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: Thank you for asking. 206 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: The last time I saw you was that celebration I 207 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: think in Chicago. That's the last time I saw you. Yeah, right, yeah, 208 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: I got a picture from there too. And we look 209 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: good together, man, I'm not gonna lie. We look real good, 210 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 3: like I would say, father and son. Just gonna put 211 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: it out there, just gonna put it out there for 212 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: those listening. 213 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 5: Nice, nice to hear. 214 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Billy. Do you go to a lot of 215 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: those I mean, obviously, you know you're known for so 216 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: many roles. One of the most popular is, of course, Orlando. 217 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Do you go to a lot of those conventions and 218 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: and and see the fans, because I know fans are 219 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: just so excited whenever they see you. 220 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 5: You know, I've done quite a few of those over 221 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 5: the years, and I have I have a good time. 222 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 5: It's fun, it's enjoyable. 223 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 6: It's always nice to meet people that have given you 224 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 6: a lot of support throughout the years. I mean, if 225 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 6: you relied on the people in Hollywood to give your accolades, 226 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 6: a lot of trouble and meet the people who've given you, know, 227 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 6: all of this support throughout As I said, throughout the years, do. 228 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: You ever have people come up to you and just 229 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: ask you like I remember being go Long as a kid, 230 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That was one of my 231 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: favorite movies as a youth about Negro League baseball. It 232 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: was you, Richard pryor James ol Jones and you guys 233 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: were playing baseball for the Traveling all It was being 234 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: Along in the Traveling All Stars. 235 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: I remember this. 236 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 5: Being Go Along in the Traveling All Stars and motor Keke. 237 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: I remember. I remember watching this movie thinking this is 238 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: one of the best movies ever, and think this came before. 239 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: A lot of your stuff came before. So we can start. 240 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: We can start with Brian's song if you want to, 241 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: but all of the stuff that you did before Lando. 242 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: I remember when you did Lando. My the way my 243 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: parents reacted. They were from Harlem, you know, they well 244 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: not from Harlem. They moved to Harlem from you know, 245 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: one from DC, one from Springfield, Massachusetts, and they wound 246 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: up in Harlem. 247 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: And you are a legend in Harlem, you know. 248 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 5: What I mean. 249 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: You are a Harlem legend. I have pictures. 250 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 5: You know. 251 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: I also grew up in Harlem. 252 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: I grew up in house kitchen as well, but I 253 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: grew up at the National Black Theater in Harlem, and 254 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: that was where I got my start at a very 255 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: young age. 256 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: And I just. 257 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: Remember when Empire came out, we all went to the 258 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: movie theater to support you. I'll never forget that. I 259 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: will never forget myself. Barbara and Tyr, my mom, my dad, 260 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: everybody we went to the movie theater to support you, 261 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: and we didn't really even know you. You were just 262 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: somebody from the neighborhood. That was a legend, you know 263 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: what I mean? 264 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 5: Really? 265 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and twenty fifth Street and fifth National 266 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: Black Theater. Do you know it? 267 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 5: No, I have no idea. I never heard of it. 268 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: You're breaking my heart, Billy, do you break in my heart? 269 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: But Billy, you and Donald had that in common, and 270 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: that you're both were very young getting involved in the theater, right, 271 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean I read that you started in your first 272 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: play was at seven years old. 273 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was in a Broadway musical where I was 274 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 6: six and a half years old. 275 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 5: My mom got me started in the show business. 276 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: How did that come about? 277 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: Well? 278 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 6: She she was inspiring a performer. She studied opera for 279 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 6: many years and she had great dreams of becoming a 280 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 6: movie star, but of course in those days that wasn't 281 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 6: really possible. And she was working at the Lycean Peter 282 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 6: in New York City at the time for Ben Boyer 283 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 6: and Max Storton. They were the Broadway managers and producers 284 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 6: and they were doing this musical like court Vile at 285 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 6: the time. You know who court Vile is? No, Okay, Well, 286 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 6: he wrote three penny opera with berkel Brett. 287 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: Oh wow, he. 288 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: Wrote the music. 289 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 6: And they were doing this this musical, the Five Brown 290 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 6: of Florence, and they were looking for a little boy 291 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 6: who played this page boy to the Duchess, and the 292 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 6: duchess was being played by Latte Leny. You probably have 293 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 6: no idea who she is. Lenny was married to Kurvile. 294 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: She was the original pirate Jenny in threepenny Opera. Wow. 295 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 6: Anyway, so you could look all that stuff up and 296 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 6: it's all really quite interesting. 297 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 5: They were looking for a little. 298 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 6: Boy up to a cast in this role, and they 299 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 6: realized that my mom had this little boy, and so 300 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 6: she had me auditioned. They took me down to the theater. 301 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 6: There was George S. Kaufman, John Mary Anderson and all 302 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 6: of these notable people at that time. And they had 303 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 6: me walk cross stage one time two times, and they said, Billy, 304 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 6: that's fine, great, but I I was. I became really 305 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 6: enamored with the whole idea of being on a stage. 306 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 6: So I decided I wanted to do it the third 307 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 6: time and they said, well that's okay. Well I insisted 308 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 6: and I started crying. So I always said I crawed 309 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 6: my way into show business. Well that's how I kind 310 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: of all started. 311 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: You knew right away. You knew at seven years old. 312 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: I like this feeling that was. It's funny because Donald 313 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: and I have that both in common too. My first 314 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: audition was it eight, and Donald, you started way younger. 315 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: I started five. 316 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: Actually, well, no, I was doing I remember traveling to Seattle, 317 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: Washington with the National Black Leader doing a play When 318 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: the Lion Roars that we wrote with our teacher at 319 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: the time, and it was one of the things that 320 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: I was homeschooled until third grade. So a lot of 321 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: my my introduction into education and you know, community was 322 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: through theater, which is which is which sounds amazing. It 323 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: sounds like what your life was, you know, I like 324 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: I I find I find it really awesome when kids can, 325 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: you know, be hold themselves accountable at a very young age. 326 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: That's a very powerful thing for a kid to have, 327 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: a very powerful tool for a young child to have. 328 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: And I think that's really awesome that at seven you 329 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: knew exactly what it was you wanted to be. 330 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you think it's a powerful tool. 331 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 6: And one experience, and I was very happy that they 332 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 6: didn't have any more experiences. 333 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: Really after that. 334 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 335 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 5: I think kids should just simply be kids and go 336 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: to school and interact with other kids. 337 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: That if they want, if they wanted to, I did 338 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: all right, I thought I did all right. 339 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: I think it great. 340 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: Now, Billy, you did you You went to LaGuardia. 341 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: High School, Well, Laguario. It wasn't LaGuardia at that time. 342 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: It was Music and Art High School. 343 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, it became LaGuardia when I joined with Performing Arts. 344 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it moved right because it was uptown. 345 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 6: Later on when I went there, it was up by 346 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 6: City College. 347 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: I think it became a Philip Randolph or something like that, right. 348 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 6: I had no idea, but anyway, it was part of 349 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 6: the City College campus. 350 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: And when you were there were you I know you 351 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: just said you didn't want to do any more child acting, 352 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: But you did you do any acting in high school? 353 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Or do you ad you focus on painting? 354 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I was. 355 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 6: I was a painter and that's why I went to 356 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 6: music and I my sister and I so painting was 357 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 6: pretty much my focus at that time. I didn't stump 358 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 6: back doing the whole show business stuff until I was 359 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 6: like about eighteen nineteen. 360 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: Is that when you realize that's what you wanted to do. 361 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 6: I just sort of followed my instincts, and I followed 362 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 6: what life was handing me in those moments. So I 363 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 6: was busy running around trying to make out with a 364 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 6: lot of ladies. 365 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: I was about to say, man, at that age, at 366 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen, you wanted a handsome miss motherfuckers on the 367 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: planet stayed one hundred bro. 368 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 5: I left the musical art in high school. 369 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 6: I went to a school called the National Academy and 370 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 6: designed for the fine arts. I spent two years on 371 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 6: a scholarship painting, and when I was about eighteen nineteen, 372 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 6: I was nominated for a Googen Hide and also won 373 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 6: a Hall garden, which is comforable to a Google hid. 374 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: But that's pretty much what I was doing at that time. 375 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 6: And then somehow I segued my life, so segued back 376 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 6: into the world of theater. 377 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 5: So I did a lot of theater in those years. 378 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: When did you realize that you were being considered for 379 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: such I mean, obviously you must have known that you 380 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: people thought of you as a very handsome man. That's 381 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: not happened to me or Donald. 382 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm waiting for my It hasn't. 383 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: Yet happened to us. But we're wondering when you realized 384 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: that you were such a sex symbol to people. 385 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: Well, when I walked out of the room, yes, So 386 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: how did call forty five come about? 387 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: Like what happened that all of a sudden you were like, 388 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: you know what this is? Because I remember those commercials 389 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: as a youth. Also, I remember the bull I remember you, 390 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: I remember works every time. 391 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: I remember how did that come about? 392 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 6: They asked me to the smokest person for at that time. 393 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: So when I look at like Zach and I we 394 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: work with T Mobile right now, that's the brand that 395 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 3: we do a lot of really cool commercials with and 396 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: stuff like that. We look at it like we're happy 397 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: that the contract is still going. Did you know back 398 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: then how long your contract was going to be? Because 399 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: that Mo Liquor owes you a debt of gratitude. 400 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: You're the reason why it's sold. Why it's sold. 401 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Everyone wanted to cool. Everyone wanted to be cool, you. 402 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 5: Know what I mean. 403 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: Did you know that it was going to last that 404 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: long when you first signed on? Was that the deal. 405 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 5: Last than ten years? So? But I don't know. I 406 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 5: just did it and I enjoyed it. I had a 407 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 5: lot of fun doing it. 408 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: All right, We're going to take a quick break and 409 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: we'll be right back with more Billy Deane Williams. 410 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 5: Well, you take a look at my one of my paintings. 411 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: That's beautiful whole time. 412 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: It's gorgeous. 413 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Love it. Do you still paint often? 414 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 6: I'm not doing as much as I should be doing, 415 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 6: but I still work at it. 416 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: It's really really beautiful. Do you ever show your work 417 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: in a gallery? 418 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 6: I saw my work at a number of galleries throughout 419 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 6: the years, but not recently. 420 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked that one behind you. 421 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 6: I have like over three hundred. I'm in my studio 422 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 6: right now, actually, but I have over three hundred paintings 423 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 6: stored away wild. 424 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about the one behind you? 425 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 6: Well, this is a sort of, in some small way, 426 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 6: is expressing something about my sister by deceased insisting. 427 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: Another gigantic moment in your career was the legendary Brian song, 428 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: which I remember being an enormous moment in television. I 429 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: believe it like broke all records. You wrote that down, 430 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: Joel wrote down for us. 431 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: What the what the million live viewers? 432 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty five million Americans tuned in to watch Brian's song, 433 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: which I don't think is something that's happened very often 434 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: on the planet. What do you think it was about 435 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: that film that resonated with so many people. 436 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 6: Well, I've always regarded that whole experience as an act 437 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 6: of love. It was a very one of the rare 438 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 6: special moments in my life or anybody's life. Really, I 439 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 6: don't know, you know, it's it just resonated with people. 440 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 6: It was a beautiful love story between two guys with 441 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 6: a two straight guys. 442 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 5: It had all of the elements of athos and fun and. 443 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 6: It was about, you know, two guys who from two 444 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 6: different backgrounds coming together in a really beautiful, wonderful way, 445 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 6: which has always been very difficult for people to express. 446 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 6: I mean, you know the racial differences, you know, on 447 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 6: the ethnicity differences. 448 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 5: And it worked. 449 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 6: It worked because well, I think one Jimmy and I 450 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: had a great chemistry and uh, and so that really 451 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 6: people responded to that. 452 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 5: I don't know, it was It was just a beautiful story. 453 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: It makes me think of Donald and I in some 454 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: ways because our characters are on Scrubs. We're not only 455 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: best friends, but the show allowed us to show emotion 456 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: that even in the year two thousands, people still were 457 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: We're not. It wasn't a common occurrence to show two 458 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: straight guy friends being so close, being so open with 459 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: their love for each other. It feels like it's it's, 460 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, a similar thing. I don't know, Donald, if 461 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: you've ever thought about that. 462 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: Sports does that though, man, Sports has a way of 463 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: of of of touching people. This is actually a real story, 464 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 3: and if I'm correct, the monologue you do at the 465 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: end of the movie is verbatim. It was like, it 466 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: must have felt like doing a play. You know what 467 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: he said, it's documented and now you're playing this character. 468 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: Did you and James ever hang out after that, like, 469 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: I mean, God rest his soul. But did you guys, 470 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: were you guys buddies after that? Because the chemistry that 471 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: you have in the film is amazing. 472 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 5: Oh, actually were two different people. 473 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 6: He was more of a gangster, just a sweet little boy. 474 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 5: So it was a very quiet area loving. 475 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 6: He was loving in his own way, but we were 476 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 6: we were not compatible, but hanging. 477 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 5: Out with each other. 478 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: He really was a gangster. I were listening to this 479 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: audiobook that's about the making of Godfather and as called 480 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: leave the Leave the Gun, Take the Canoi, and Uh, 481 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: it's incredible how he knew the world. It seemed like 482 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: he was very familiar with the world of the movie. 483 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: And then when he got the part, he went even 484 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: further in to do quote unquote research. Hanging out with 485 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: the fellas. 486 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, he had was pretty much a part of the 487 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: Las Vegas group. 488 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 6: I think, I mean, I've known a lot of gangsters 489 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 6: in my life, but I'm not a gangster. 490 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 5: I think he was much more into that kind of lifestyle. 491 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: Now a Brian song, It's amazing he went from one 492 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: enormous thing to the next because Brian's song was such 493 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: an incredible phenomenon. And then when you joined the Star 494 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: Wars world with Empire Strikes Back. I mean, nothing could 495 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: have been bigger than that. Was that? Was that a 496 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: big life change for you when all of a sudden 497 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: you're being recognized. I'm sure everywhere. 498 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 3: I mean all of the movie roles came after that too, 499 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 3: like so many movie roles came after that. 500 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 5: Well, I did a lot of movie roles in a 501 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 5: few I mean, Ladies Sings. 502 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: Blues, great movie, one of my favorites. 503 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 6: A movie called It, which was a kind of an interest, 504 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 6: and there were others. I expressed a lot of it 505 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 6: in the book because of the kind of exchanges I've 506 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 6: had with the people that I have worked with, which 507 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 6: I thought were pretty interesting. It was a kind of 508 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 6: part of a life lesson. But certainly I'm just daddy 509 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 6: and kind of a husband. I did, so, I don't know. 510 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 6: Your stories are a lot more. 511 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Interesting, oh, I know, But our audience is so bored 512 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: of hearing about our stories. Believe that's why we have 513 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: to have interesting people like you on to tell us, 514 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: because Donald and I have shared them every anecdote in 515 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: our lives so far. 516 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 6: Well, I've had a pretty extraordinary life, you have. I 517 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 6: like most people I think, starting at a very early 518 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 6: point in my life. 519 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: My life, to me is a very eclectic. 520 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 6: I always see it, as I always say, I see 521 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 6: myself as the full spectrum of colors. When I did Lando, 522 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 6: for instance, and I heard the name cal RISI I thought, wow, 523 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 6: that's interesting. 524 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 5: It's in our median name. And I thought, let me 525 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: see what I can do with this. 526 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 6: And and then of course when I got the Kate, 527 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 6: that sort of solidified everything that was into the Earl 528 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 6: Finn Row. So I put those ideas together and I 529 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 6: came up with I thought was bigger than life, special 530 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 6: kind of a character. 531 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: He's my favorite character in the whole universe. That's who 532 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: I identified with growing up, and I appreciated. I've seen 533 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: a lot of your movies, actually, the one you did 534 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: with Sylvester Stallone, Were you Guys Are Chase Yeah Night, 535 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: Were you Guys are Chasing Dude through the subway and 536 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: all of that stuff. 537 00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 7: Yes, he was probably one of the best. 538 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: Ever, was his Yeah. And then you and you and 539 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: Richard Pryor did a few movies together, but Bingolong and 540 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: then Lady Sings the Blues. 541 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 3: I think you know, your performance in that is amazing 542 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 3: Bingolong is one of my favorite movies as a kid. 543 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that movie. It was because of the 544 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: way my dad reacted when he watched the movie and 545 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 3: the way my mom reacted to you guys, there was 546 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: like three legends. 547 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 6: That movie was a in my opinion, a very special experience. 548 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 6: At the time when Paramount was distributed movie, they thought 549 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 6: they weren't very accommodating in the sense that they didn't 550 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 6: know what to do with the movie about a bunch 551 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 6: of black guys running around the country playing baseball. 552 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 5: But I always felt that at some. 553 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 6: Point or another that movie would have resonate in a 554 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 6: very interesting, in an historical way. 555 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun to do that movie. 556 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 6: I really enjoyed it, not always because of the actors 557 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 6: I was working with, but we worked with a real 558 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 6: baseball players from the Negro leagues, and that was a 559 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 6: lot of fun. 560 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: It was very interesting. 561 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 6: I followed and I used to go out and watch 562 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 6: them all the time in Central Park. We used to 563 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 6: go out and watch some the Cuban baseball players. 564 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, way back in the day before you were born. 565 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: Well, I mean that was but that was my dad 566 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: and I's bond was sports. You know what I mean. 567 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: If it wasn't Bengolong in The Traveling All Stars, it 568 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: was the fish that Save Pittsburgh, you. 569 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: Know what I mean. 570 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: Like, that's how my dad and I expressed love for 571 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: each other when we were a kids and when I 572 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: was as a kid. And so it's going to sound crazy, 573 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: but the fact that Darth Vader and Lando cal Rissian 574 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: were in a movie and Richard Pryor was the comic 575 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: relief in it, I just thought I couldn't fathom, Like, 576 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: as a youth, how is this put together? How did 577 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: they make this happen? And I was kind of young 578 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: when Ladies Sing Sings the Blues came out, But then 579 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: as a grown up watching it, I mean, you personify cool. 580 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: You are what you know a lot of these cats 581 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: out here are trying to do now? 582 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: Uh, you know you're. 583 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: Gonna let my hand fall off. Like there's so many 584 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: amazing moments in that movie. And you know, I wonder 585 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: do you do you and Diana ross Epper still talk? 586 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: Do you guys say hello to each other every once 587 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: in a while? 588 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 5: Well again, yeah, you. 589 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: Guys had magic too, like you have, like your. 590 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: Chemistry, chemistry. Yeah, man, it really worked very well. 591 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: Let's take a break. 592 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. Donald, you 593 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: kind of touched on it, but and Joelle too, Billy, 594 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, for Dwell and Donald are massive Star Wars 595 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: universe fans, and I just thought you could just just 596 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: speak to a little more both of you about what 597 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: it felt like to see, you know, an African American 598 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: man entering in and being one of the leads in 599 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: something that you were so passionate about it. And Donald, 600 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: you've spoken before about how you felt like you saw 601 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: yourself entering the world of that space. 602 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 3: Well, Star Wars didn't become Star Wars until Lando shows up, 603 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Star Wars was watching a 604 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: bunch of white people run around with blasters and stuff 605 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: like that and guns, and it was cool and stuff. 606 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: But then when Lando shows up, it was like, oh shit, 607 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: I can be in Star Wars too, you know, I 608 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: can be I could you know? Oh and he gets 609 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 3: to fly to Millennium Falcon. Okay, well, you know, and 610 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: that became one of the reasons why I became an actor, 611 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 3: because I knew at a very young age there's no 612 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: way I'll be able to do all of that stuff 613 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: in real life. Fantasy is the way to go be 614 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: coming in, you know, And for me it was that. 615 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: And I didn't see myself until that moment. And then 616 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: as an adult, you know, the decisions that Lando Calrissian 617 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: has to make. Those are real life decisions, real big 618 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: boy decisions. And you know I would react the same 619 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: way I would. You know, It's just I don't know, man, 620 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: It's one of those things. 621 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: You wouldn't turn Han Solo in, though, dom I. 622 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: Would turn Han Solo into a heartbeat to save a 623 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: whole city of people. 624 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: That's like you saying to me, dude, I'm coming into 625 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 3: New York and I'm like, all right, come through, but 626 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: I know that when you get there, you're probably gonna 627 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: get arrested by the cops. And I don't say nothing 628 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: because if I say something to you, they're gonna probably 629 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: arrest me. But if if not, only are they going 630 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: to arrest me, they're going to fucking destroy the whole 631 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: city that I'm. 632 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: So, you don't false Orlando for his well, no, he 633 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: did the right thing. 634 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: He protected millions of people in Cloud City. 635 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: And no, and and and and Billy d has the 636 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: greatest quote ever line ever nobody died. 637 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: Well, I love how passionate you you are about it, 638 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: and I'm sure Billy, you run into people that are 639 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: this passionate about it all the time. It meant so 640 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: much to so many people. 641 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 5: So it's all very interesting. 642 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: I didn't know that you studied with Sidney Portier man. 643 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 7: That's that's he was at one point he was teaching, 644 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 7: just prior to his whole life changing and becoming a 645 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 7: big movie star. 646 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: So you you you and him were working together before 647 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: the fame. 648 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I knew Sydney. There's a ten year difference. 649 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 6: I'm eighty seven. He was when he may passed. I 650 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 6: guess he was about eighty six. Yeah, I knew him 651 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 6: through friends of mine back in those years. He was 652 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 6: that time, I think with another company. I don't know 653 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 6: it was your company or some other. 654 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: No, he was with the Harlem Actors Workshop. That's something 655 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: that's not the. 656 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 6: Right, okay, And it was I think working as a 657 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 6: dish washer at one of the restaurants and one hundred 658 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 6: and twenty fifth Street. 659 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 5: He did one television show. 660 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 6: I think called A Man of Ten Feet Tall, and 661 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 6: then that same television show he ended up doing with 662 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 6: John Cassavetti's it was called The Edge of the City. 663 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 6: He was, I guess, in a sense, the chosen one 664 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 6: at that time in those years. He was quite brilliant. 665 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 6: And the thing I always liked about Sydney it was 666 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 6: that he was very much a part of the new 667 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 6: genre of actors at the time that were involved with 668 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 6: Stanislavsky and Bull and you know, the method and all 669 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. He brought a whole new spirit, 670 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 6: a whole new way of approaching acting as far as 671 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 6: black actors were concerned. 672 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: Were you heavy into method, Oh, very much so. 673 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 6: I'm part of that generation. 674 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 5: He was quite inspiring. But there were others too. There 675 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 5: were people like Wanaandez. 676 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 6: There were people like Frank Silvera, who was one of 677 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 6: my favorite actors at that time. As far as I 678 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 6: hesitate to use the term black actors, to me, just 679 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 6: simply wonderful. 680 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: Did you ever get to work with any of them? 681 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 5: Only? Never work with Sydney never, except you know, through teaching. 682 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 6: I never worked with Frank Solvero, never worked with on this, No, 683 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 6: but I always I have tremendous admiration for the way 684 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 6: they approach the craft. 685 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: What do you credit Billy to you looking and looking 686 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: like you're forty five years old. Still, what is the secret? 687 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: Because Donald and I complain about our wrinkles and we're 688 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: forty nine and fifty and you just look so incredible, 689 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: And so many people don't stay as lucid and clear 690 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: and work and have the full life that you have. 691 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything you look back on and 692 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: go you recommend people do to have a longevity like you? 693 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 5: Well, you just live at the watch life and you know. 694 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, it's nature not nurture, right, yeah? 695 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 5: Or both are both Okay. 696 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: We're both okay, Well, you're looking credible. I want to 697 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: remind everyone Billy's book is called what have We Here? 698 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: A Portrait of a Life, and it's on shelves now. 699 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: Billy d thank you so much for taking the time 700 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: to be with us. We really really appreciate it. 701 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 5: Well, thank you very much, Thank you for inviting. Have 702 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 5: a wonderful good very well, Thank you. 703 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 2: Too, be blessed, Thank you, and I. 704 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: God, he's such a legend. And uh, I was just 705 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: happy for you because I know that what An impacts 706 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: that movie and and that role. 707 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: His career is very much like mine. And you could 708 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: hear it in what he was saying, you know what 709 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 2: I mean. He called Sydney the chosen one. 710 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 5: You know what I mean. 711 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: There are a bunch of people, you know that as 712 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: an actor that you sweat. You know, he's in my opinion, 713 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 3: I think it's a blessing. If Sidney Portier is the 714 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 3: actor that you sweat. 715 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 716 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a blessing, you know what I mean. 717 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: And you know, I was very lucky to get to 718 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: work with a lot of my idols. I got to 719 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 3: work with Denzel, I got to work with Billy d Williams. 720 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: I've got to you know what I mean. These things 721 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 3: don't these things don't happen. And in hearing his conversation 722 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 3: about his life, he didn't get to work with the 723 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 3: people that he wanted to work with. 724 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: You know, that inspired him. 725 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 3: And so I just from listening to him as much 726 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: as he inspired me, I realized how lucky I am to, 727 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 3: you know, get to do the things that I want 728 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,959 Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, that's one and two. You know, as 729 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 3: as you become, as you get older, you can't just 730 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: focus on this acting ship for the rest of your life. Man, 731 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 3: you got to find something else to satisfy you. And 732 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 3: he's so lucky and blessed to be able to fall 733 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: back on art, you know, by the. 734 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: Way, that's that's the thing you guys have in common too, 735 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: that that that you know, you do your animation. He's 736 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, painting sounds like it's been his lifelong passion. 737 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for since. I guess it's what he wanted 738 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 3: to do instead of being an actor. 739 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: And I wish I had something like that. I need 740 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 1: to pick something up like that. 741 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: What about photography, No, I do. 742 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: I shoot a lot of pictures and I love photography, 743 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: but I I I lately I've been thinking as I watch, 744 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: as I always say, as I was listening, I was 745 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: thinking of his love of painting and you know, your 746 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: love of animation. I'd love to have something that I 747 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's you know, playing the piano, or 748 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: or something that I that I can fiddle with in 749 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: my house besides my peep. 750 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be honest with you. Fiddling with my 751 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 2: peep is one of my favorite things to do. 752 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: I know you're very good at it. 753 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm very skilled, I'm a master. 754 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: I can't do that now because I have a really 755 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: bad tennis elbow? 756 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: Hold on, what does your elbow have to do with 757 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 2: fiddling with your peep? 758 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: Well, fortunately, it's only it's my left hand that's really bad. 759 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: So I unless I'm doing the stranger, I'm fine, but I. 760 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 3: Have to say no stranger, Daniel, you were gonna give 761 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: me some tips for my from my tennis. 762 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: By the way, audience, I learned as a fake doctor 763 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: that I always assumed that tennis elbow had to do 764 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: with your playing so much tennis and your armors. They 765 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: just call it that because it's the muscle on the 766 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: back of your forearm that gets strained. But Daniel, what 767 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: do you do for it? Because mine not the blue 768 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: hurts just hashtag getting old, hashtag getting old. 769 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 4: But don't worry, I'm suffering from it as well, so 770 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 4: you know it's hardly an old thing. But my doctor 771 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 4: recommends that you do more lifting, more strengthening of that spot. 772 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 4: I know, but you know the reason it's called tennis. 773 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 4: So so right now, well it comes from that muscle. 774 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: You know. 775 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 4: For me, it's the kind of like explosive motion of 776 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 4: for me throwing a frisbee, and if you play tennis, 777 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 4: it's swinging a tennis racket, and if all of the 778 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 4: exercise on that is just from this kind of like 779 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 4: explosive motion, you're really working that muscle really hard. At 780 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 4: least that's what I'm learning. 781 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: So doing something. I got this ice leave on the 782 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: internet that helps. The sleeve is good. I have. I 783 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: have a compression sleeve that I wear whenever I play. No, 784 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: this is a ice one. You put it. It's the jelly. 785 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: It's that jelly material and it's a sleeve and you 786 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: put it in the freezer and then you slide it 787 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: on and it feels real nice. Well that's all. 788 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 789 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 3: I'm sorry elbows. I'm so sorry you guys, your elbow herts. 790 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: But you lost me just now, me and the rest 791 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 3: of the audience. 792 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 2: Just like this. 793 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: No, there are listeners out there who have occasional tennis. 794 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: It's like maybe for listeners right now, I agree exactly 795 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 2: the plenty there's plenty of times where you're talking about 796 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 2: some fucking video game no one gives a shit about. Exactly, Daniel, 797 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 2: how quickly you turn on your time. 798 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 4: I know that no one gives a shit about what 799 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. Hey, I as I'm aware that when. 800 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking about plenty of times where I just leaned 801 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: back in my chair and let you all talk about 802 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: fucking some fucking bullshit video game. 803 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 4: I know I mentioned Ultimate Frisbee, and I'm really talking 804 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 4: to two of our listeners. 805 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 3: Ultimate Frisbee. You've got a bunch of stoners out there 806 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: listening to us. Hell, there are a bunch of people 807 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: that are like, yo, fuck, it's eighty degrees in New 808 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 3: York right now, I'm going outside fucking. 809 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: Throw some frisbee in sheep's meadow. Ultimate Frisbee, Well, I 810 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: think I've mentioned this. It was invented at Columbia High 811 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: School my Homa mono, which you can google if you 812 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: don't believe Joel Silver. I believe. 813 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: Wait, Joel Silver, the producer, Yes, created Ultimate Frisbee. 814 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: Yes, at Columbia High School. 815 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: Did you play Ultimate frisbee, Daniel? 816 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 4: I played in college and I still play now three times. 817 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: Do you play frisbee golf? 818 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 6: Ever? 819 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 4: I played frisbee golf sometimes hit a disc golf. 820 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 2: Can I ask you guys a question, because I've never 821 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 2: played ultimate frisbee? 822 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: What is sure soccer with the frisbee? 823 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 824 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: Basically yeah, Oh you can't run with it. We can't 825 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: run with it when you have, but you. 826 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 4: Correct kind of plays it, kind of plays like soccer 827 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 4: and football where you throw it into an end zone. 828 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 2: Oh so there's no there's no throwing it into its 829 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: no goal. 830 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: But first step is you get very high. 831 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 3: Any anytime you play any freaking game created in a 832 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: meadow a field like Hackie Sack and or frisbee, you 833 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 3: gotta be high first. 834 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: The first step, the first step of ultimate Frisbee is 835 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: you pull the bong here. 836 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 2: Yes, right. 837 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: Then step two is you meet your friends at the park. 838 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no. Step three, when you 839 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 3: get to the park, you smoke a little bit more. 840 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: Yes, and then once you're once you've gotten into the park, 841 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: you you pull another bong here. 842 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 4: Supporting evidence for this, there's no better rolling tray than 843 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 4: an upside down frisbee, no better a. 844 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: High walls. You don't lose your ship. You don't lose 845 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 2: your ship. 846 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, everyone, that's our show, Thank you so much. 847 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, uh, I really appreciate Billy d coming on 848 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: the show. He's eighty seven years old. He doesn't have 849 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: to fucking talk to us. But yeah, he took a 850 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 1: day time. 851 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: He took day time. Yeah, he did. He got a book, 852 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: and you guys should all go out and read it. 853 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, go check out his book. I'll bet you in 854 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: the book, he expounds, expounds. 855 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: That's correct, that's correct, Joell. 856 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for I want to give 857 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: you your flowers, because not only did you get us 858 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: Billy D Williams, but you also did a wonderful job 859 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: producing this segment and helping us navigate all our questions. 860 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate you. 861 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 2: It's my pleasure. 862 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: And Dan, you're fine too, Thanks. 863 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 2: Daniel, thank you for getting this HK or HK four K. 864 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 2: There you got HK. That's where I'm from. Hell's Kitchen. 865 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, that's our show. Donald, do you have 866 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: any final things you want to tell all these lovely people? 867 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to thank them for tuning into our podcast? 868 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 2: I do want to thank them for tuning into our podcast. 869 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: I also want to thank Billy D Williams, such a 870 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 2: wonderful guest. Thank you very much. I feel like I 871 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 2: know you more than i've ever known you before. 872 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: And we are honored. We know that you're eighty seven 873 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: and you don't have to suffer fools, and yet you 874 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 1: suffered our. 875 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 2: Fooledom, our foolishness. 876 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 1: I wish fool them was a word. 877 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: It can be, it is now. I mean, who says 878 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: it Isn't you just made it up? 879 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: Do you want to come with me and Johnny C 880 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: to the Rangers game tomorrow night? I know somebody to 881 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: get you to ask. 882 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to ask me something completely different. 883 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: What did you think I was gonna say? 884 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 2: Do you say, do I want to come? 885 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 3: And I was gonna say absolutely stories. I'm not sure 886 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 3: we made about a bunch of tops and nurses. 887 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 6: Said the stories. 888 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, round here, yeah, here for you. 889 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 5: M