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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hey, what's your name, Doug? I'm Joey, Joey Joey.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: What'd you want to talk about today? Man?

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Speaker 3: What isn't going on?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: I have a pretty serious issue. So about two weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: I was going to UH vacation right to Portland.

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Speaker 1: And UH.

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Speaker 3: On the way up to Portland from the Bay Area

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Speaker 3: of California, I got pulled over. We're going eighty on

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Speaker 3: seventy and cop pulled me over. He said, uh, I

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Speaker 3: look nervous. He wanted to search my car and didn't

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Speaker 3: let him search my car, and she brought a canine unit.

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Speaker 3: So they searched my car anyways, and they found a

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Speaker 3: little bit of cocaine on me. Actually, it's not what

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Speaker 3: they all they found. I had. I had mushrooms, I

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Speaker 3: had MDMA, I had LSD, I had e kedemene, and

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Speaker 3: I had some cocaine. And I thought I was going

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Speaker 3: to go to jail, but they actually let me go.

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Speaker 1: So what's the problem.

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Speaker 3: Well, so the problem is now I have to go

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Speaker 3: to court. I have to go to court, and I

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Speaker 3: have to figure out how I'm gonna tell my parents

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Speaker 3: that I got a possession of cocaine charge on my record.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's say when you said, when you said they

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Speaker 1: didn't take it to jail, I thought, I'm fucking sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm stupid. I thought they meant I thought you meant

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Speaker 1: they were just like, oh yeah, no worries. Oh they

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Speaker 1: like laughed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't take me to jail in that moment.

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Speaker 3: But going to jail is still definitely a possibility. But

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Speaker 3: that's not even That's only half the problem. So I

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Speaker 3: am an undocumented immigrant from Mexico. So now I'm worried

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Speaker 3: that I could be deported. And I don't know shit

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Speaker 3: about Mexico. I've been here my entire life. I came

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Speaker 3: to the US when I was one year old.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, Okay, so you weren't born here, but you

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Speaker 1: came here as a little baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.

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Speaker 1: Wow, And really, and even after being here for twenty

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Speaker 1: four years, they can still deport you.

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Speaker 3: I yeah, I guess. So.

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Speaker 1: Well, all right, listen, here's the thing. And I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna before we evolve any further into this conversation, which

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Speaker 1: is a conversation I'm happy to have with you, I

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Speaker 1: want you to know that I am not a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know if you caught onto that, if you were calling me,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if you were calling me in

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Speaker 1: lieu of legal advice, but I just thought I would

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Speaker 1: throw that out there that I'm not a lawyer. So

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Speaker 1: this conversation is going to be mainly two dumbasses, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, figuring it out right? Have you consulted with

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Speaker 1: a lawyer?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I've been. I've been asking around for I've sent a

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Speaker 3: couple of emails. I haven't gotten any responses. I've talked

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Speaker 3: to my sister about how I'm gonna tell my parents

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Speaker 3: that I got, you know, pulled over and got a

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Speaker 3: cocaine charge.

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Speaker 1: And you when you, I mean, I assume you've like

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Speaker 1: have you done? Can I get deported for drug possession?

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Speaker 1: Reddit as a Google search and seeing what people either?

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Speaker 1: But okay, well let's say.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I guess my unique is I mean, my

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Speaker 3: my case is very unique because I didn't find the ship.

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Speaker 1: Why is your case unique?

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Speaker 3: What might not be unique? But it's just I haven't

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Speaker 3: I looked on the internet that I didn't really find

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Speaker 3: anything useful. I mean, I guess the only thing that

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Speaker 3: I really found was like, oh yeah, you can definitely

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Speaker 3: be deported.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever spoken with a immigration lawyer? Well, I'm curious,

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Speaker 1: so are you're not you're not a citizen of the

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Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm undocumented. Actually that's being undocumented has really

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Speaker 3: fucked me up a lot in life. But I'm getting by.

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Speaker 3: I've I've done a lot of cool shit, like I

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Speaker 3: started my own company. Yeah. Anyways, Yeah, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: Like, what's the process, right? Because look, mammy, you've been

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Speaker 1: here since you were since you were one years old.

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Speaker 1: You've got the voice of a John Smith. How come

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Speaker 1: you can't how come you can't uh become a fucking

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 3: I think it's just current politics that's you know, this

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Speaker 3: whole immigration reform stuff is super great area where nothing

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Speaker 3: that should move in with baby stuffs.

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Speaker 1: Mmm. I mean, have you tried it?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Have you have you? Have you? Have you caught so

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Speaker 1: okay with all this stuff before? I guess before calling me,

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Speaker 1: have you called a immigration lawyer or I guess any

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Speaker 3: Uh So, So my parents were handling all of that.

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Speaker 3: So years back, my dad assaulted by a crackhead, and

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Speaker 3: so he qualifies for you visa and he can sponsor

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Speaker 3: his whole family for U visa. So I've been in

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Speaker 3: that process for years now. I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: But I'm confused. How is your dad getting assaulted? So

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Speaker 1: if you're assaulted by a crackhead, you can just get

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Speaker 3: Apparently, Yeah, it's called the U visa.

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Speaker 1: What's how's that work?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. My parents are the ones handling

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Speaker 3: all of that, and unfortunately I never bothered to ask.

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Speaker 1: Just two non lawyer dumbasses figuring it out, and that's

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Speaker 1: what it is. Well well, I mean all right, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean like, uh, okay, so you've how can all right?

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Speaker 1: So listen, it sounds to me like your parents have

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Speaker 1: been the ones figuring all this shit out and talking

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Speaker 1: to lawyers and doing the paperwork and this and that

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Speaker 1: and the other thing. Which but but but look, but listen, man,

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Speaker 1: you're twenty five years old. I mean, you know you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't call up a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: I could, but I haven't because I guess I'm just irresponsible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, what what I mean? Call it? Call a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: Call a lawyer. I almost don't want to keep it.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to keep talking to you because he seemed

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Speaker 1: like a cool guy, but I almost don't want to

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Speaker 1: keep we've we've That's that's my If you wanted stone

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Speaker 1: cold advice, that's my stone cold advice is to call

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's probably what I should do.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea why you haven't yet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I emailed the lawyer. You know, I

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Speaker 3: just I just I just I've just been I've just

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Speaker 1: You know, you busy doing what? How is this?

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Speaker 3: Not?

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Speaker 1: How is what? Okay? Tell me the things, tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell me everything that's on the higher that's that's higher

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Speaker 1: on your priority, less than than not getting deported.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well I mean nothing, but I know you talk

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Speaker 3: about how you know your your bar for crazy lives

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Speaker 1: Ud lawyer. Go ahead, Sorry, go ahead, I will.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just busy. So so I am. I'm

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Speaker 1: I okay, I'm sorry. I don't want to keep interrupting.

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Speaker 3: You, but no, no, it's okay, Okay, go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead, finish finished.

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Speaker 3: You finish, You've I promote. I promote a lot of

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Speaker 3: the raves that happen in the Bay Area, some of

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Speaker 3: Area and uh, you know the rave venues for like

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Speaker 3: bass music, up step or whatever. I either throw them

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Speaker 3: or know the people that throw them and promote them.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's a lot for me to do. And

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Speaker 3: then on top of that, going to work.

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Speaker 1: Take a little break from mixing and call a fucking lawyer.

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Speaker 3: I should call it oil.

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Speaker 1: You should call a lawyer. Dude, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I I I I Am going to lunch or what's

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Speaker 3: going to lunch?

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Speaker 4: Joey?

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Speaker 1: I want to I mean, I say, I want to

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Speaker 1: help you, but I literally cannot. I have no skills

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Speaker 5: But okay, how about this sounds this sounds like okay,

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Speaker 5: this sounds like a higher look all the rave stuff,

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Speaker 5: it sounds cool.

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Speaker 1: But this sounds like a significantly higher priority than your raves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how about this? How do you think I

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Speaker 1: Uh? Make it a hidden message in one of your

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Speaker 1: songs and play it for them. Oh, man, I invite them,

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Speaker 1: invite them to invite them to one of your raves

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Speaker 1: and then as part of like on the projector you

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Speaker 3: Oh that that sounds horrible.

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Speaker 1: Also, yeah, by the way, here's my friend. Look, you're

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Speaker 3: I live with them and they don't charge me for rent.

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Speaker 1: How do you afford all this cocaine?

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Speaker 3: I have a pretty pretty good job. I fix cars

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Speaker 3: but I do make a decent amount.

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I only started I only started doing

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Speaker 1: Well, so if you get to ported to Mexico, what

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Speaker 3: You know, I try to be uh, I try to

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Speaker 3: be stoic about it. Yeah, but but it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a lot to uh. You know, I've built my entire

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Speaker 3: So it's like get deported then I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: know yeah, I really don't know, but but I I have.

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Speaker 3: It does sound like I should call lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Do you speak Spanish? Do you I assume you speak Spanish.

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Speaker 3: A little bit. It's broken.

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Speaker 5: I do speak it, Okay, I you could have Listen,

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Speaker 5: here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna I want to. I want

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Speaker 1: to reassure you and say I don't think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have no idea. That's why I should call lawyer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know, but here's what I do. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say you're not gonna get deported. But here's what

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Speaker 1: I do think Joey is and I I liked. I

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Speaker 1: think part of stoicism is is rolling with whatever the

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Speaker 1: fuck happens, because you know, life is crazy and sometimes

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Speaker 1: things don't always go your way. Uh So, look, if

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Speaker 1: you do get deported to Mexico, why don't you just

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Speaker 1: become the big Why don't you just become a famous

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Speaker 1: Mexican DJ. Why don't you do underground Mexican raves? That

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Speaker 1: sounds cool, sounds fun. That's not the worst thing that

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Speaker 1: could ever happen to anyone.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't know. I mean, does the Mexico

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Speaker 3: have a good you know, bass music scene.

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Speaker 1: Well you should call lawyers that you never have to

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Speaker 1: figure out the answer to that question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I should call.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Sarah, what's going on? How's how's life?

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Speaker 1: How can I get you today? I see that you

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Speaker 2: I am, Yes, life is kind of crazy right now.

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Speaker 2: I grow more facial hair than normal, this woman does.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I feel like everyone in

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, well what else? Uh? Oh, you guys got

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Speaker 2: Oh did you have someone? You were in Berlin year?

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Speaker 2: I will playing life is strange too?

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Speaker 2: I guess it's just a problem I kind of have

443
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: in general, not doing what I'm supposed to, like not

444
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: emailing my unique professor when I really should, and then

445
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: putting it out for months and then just worrying. And

446
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: that's a problem I have in general. But I don't know,

447
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: it's just having to deal with this, having to explain

448
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: it to somebody who maybe doesn't really get my struggles,

449
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: and I don't know, it's just it's kind of hard.

450
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: Mhm. God. I wish, Sarah. I wish I had something

451
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: better to tell you than to just go see a doctor.

452
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: I really do, But I don't but I don't. I

453
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: really don't. I think you should go see a doctor

454
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: or a professional. Because here's the thing.

455
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Speaker 5: If I were, if you told, if I were like,

456
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 5: if I were like a guy who went to medical

457
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 5: school and new things about science, I could like, I'm

458
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 5: so useless to you right now, I really am.

459
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: You should go talk to a doctor about these items.

460
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Two things. One, yes, you're so right, I should

461
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: go talk to a doctor, and I will again, hopefully

462
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 2: in the future and very soon. And two, I wouldn't

463
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: say that you're like useless in this situation because I

464
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: didn't come here for medical advice. I came here to

465
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: have some fun talking to a get go and maybe

466
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: have you tell me that even though I struggle that

467
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: you know, there's reasons to be happy or something.

468
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: All right, reasons to be happy. Let's think about that.

469
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: Reasons to be happy.

470
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: I already have one right now, actually not too cheesy.

471
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: But I have been listening to you like at work,

472
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: which and my work is terribly mundane a lot like

473
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: for the past year or even a bit more, and

474
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: always cheers me up. And it's very nice to be

475
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: able to talk to you.

476
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: And now that makes me happy. That's a reason for

477
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: me to be happy. Reasons to be happy? I don't know.

478
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: We're about reasons to be happy. I'm trying to figure

479
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: out those for myself. I've googled. This is a pathetic

480
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: thing to admit, but I whatever I've googled recently. This

481
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: is not like a thing I did when I was

482
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Speaker 1: like in high school. This is a this is like

483
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: several times over the past year. I've just googled how

484
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: to be happy. I'm like, what are the basics? What

485
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: did the doctors recommend? Like you go on healthline and

486
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: it's like you go in the sun, have friends and

487
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: don't eat like shit. That's what That's what it says,

488
00:30:52,640 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: so to quote to quote Google, have friends, go in

489
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: the sun and don't eat like shit, don't eat all

490
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: those curry worst.

491
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: But the thing is, isn't eating like shit the like

492
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: most enjoyable thing to do is.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's why. God, that's why life fucking sucks.

494
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: You called it. You called so you you called in

495
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Speaker 1: wanting me to like give be motivating. But I'm I

496
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, life is crazy. It's crazy. There's all

497
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: this delicious food and you if you eat it, you die.

498
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: And you fall in love with people and they try

499
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: to kill you, and you know, you get drafted into wars.

500
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy out there,

501
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy.

502
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Speaker 2: Are you saying that maybe I should embrace the fact

503
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: that life's life sucking, sucks and just be happy then

504
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: when it actually doesn't.

505
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: Is that a conclusion that you're coming to on your

506
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: own as we're having this conversation right now.

507
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit, yeah, Because I mean I don't

508
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: think it's good to be pessimistic all the time. I

509
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: definitely have a bit too pessimistic, but maybe it helps

510
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: a bit to appreciate when life doesn't suck, and to

511
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: appreciate like being happy or having like small happy moments.

512
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: See here's the thing. See, here's the thing, Sarah is

513
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: I actually don't think what you needed with somebody to

514
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: be optimistic. I actually think if you're pessimistic, what you

515
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: need is to talk to somebody who's even more pessimistic,

516
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: so that way you can go, I don't want to

517
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: sound like that fucking guy, you know what I mean.

518
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: And then you're like, and then you come to these

519
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: conclusions on your own, which you did because you said

520
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: are you you were like you said to me, Are

521
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: you saying that I should be uh, you know, accept

522
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: that life sucks and to be happy anyway. But I

523
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: don't want. I don't want. I don't want to take that.

524
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: I you you that's a conclusion you came to on

525
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: your own, you know.

526
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

527
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know sometimes you do. Sometimes you do. Got

528
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: to throw your fucking hands up and be like, all right, well,

529
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: I I can't control whatever cards were levied upon me

530
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: in this universe, but I can control how I deal

531
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: with it. And I think I don't. I don't know.

532
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: I wish I had a better thing for you other

533
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: than telling you to go to a doctor. But that's

534
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: that's you should totally have You've been. I assume you've

535
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: been to a doctor to talk about this before at

536
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Speaker 1: least once.

537
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: Oh multiple times, multiple doctors in my life, not just

538
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: for this issue. But yes, I have, I just haven't

539
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: in the last year about this anymore.

540
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: What made you stop in the first place.

541
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: Probably the fact that, well, if I go to a

542
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: doctor about this a lot of the time, since it's

543
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: a gynecologist, and also combines with having to you know,

544
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: spread my legs open for the doctor, and it's not

545
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: the mostest thing ever. Yeah, sorry to be so I

546
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: guess crass about it, but it's just the truth.

547
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: Well, I I'm I if if it's if, if a

548
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: gecko telling you to go to the doctor is helpful

549
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, I will tell you

550
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: to go to the doctor because I think he's he's

551
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: the he or she's the one who's going to Germany's progressive.

552
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: They have all kinds of doctors.

553
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

554
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: If if, if the doctor tells you to do I

555
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't wanna. I don't want to

556
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: patronize you by explaining what doctors do. But oh no,

557
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: you should. You should got to you should go to

558
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: the doctor. Sarah.

559
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's a great motivation for me actually to

560
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: hear from you. Maybe it will actually motivate me to

561
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: call in and get an appointment soon.

562
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you wanted to say or

563
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: or talk about before we go?

564
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: You know, I listened to one of your podcasts episodes

565
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: recently and you asked somebody at the end if they

566
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: want to I don't know what was it, give a

567
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: shout out to a band or something?

568
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, sure you give a shout out to a band.

569
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: You got a band.

570
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: It's not my band, it's just a band. I like

571
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: to listen to hit us.

572
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: What is it?

573
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: Okay? So the band it's from the UK. It's called

574
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Boston Manor. I think they're releasing a new album soon.

575
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: So give that a try and support them. I love

576
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: them a lot.

577
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: Boston Manor. Everyone check out Boston Manor from the UK. Yes,

578
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: thank you, Sarah, good luck and uh I enjoyed, enjoy,

579
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: enjoy playing your game and eating eating food and living life.

580
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: Thank you you enjoy any food too, low and thank

581
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: you very much by Sarah. Bye.

582
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, what's up? Yes, sir? Who is this?

583
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 4: I'm fucking oh my god?

584
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: What's your name? Cowboy?

585
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: Should I use my real name?

586
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: No? Don't? Yeah, all right, you know what I'm You know,

587
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start. You know what I'm gonna do, because

588
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: I do this thing where I forget everybody's name. I'm

589
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: just gonna give people names because I don't know nobody.

590
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: Nobody should be. Nobody should be using their real name

591
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: on this fucking thing anyway. So I'm not gonna ask

592
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: anyone what their name is anymore. I'm just gonna give.

593
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: You a name.

594
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: You're okay, all right? Your name is Jonathan. That's stupid. No,

595
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: your name is Jonathan, but I'm gonna call you John

596
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: for short. John. What's up? How's life?

597
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 4: Life is complicated? Well? I cannot believe I got a

598
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: call from you?

599
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: Life is complicated? Well, John? Why is life complicated? Besides

600
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: the obvious reasons?

601
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 4: But what do you think the obvious reasons are?

602
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: Why?

603
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: What are the obvious reasons as to why life is complicated? Well?

604
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean life well, I mean I guess the goal

605
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: of life well, and there's all sorts of different goals

606
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: of life. But happiness, I think is the one that

607
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: people want the most. And happiness is a fickle and

608
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: complex thing. But I'm not I don't want to wax

609
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: poetic about bullshit. I want to hear what why your

610
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: life in particular feels complicated?

611
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Speaker 4: I would say that there's a lot going on in

612
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: my life right now.

613
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: Ah, you texted me and you said my name is

614
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: am I gonna say your name. You said, I'm twenty

615
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: years old and I think I have a sex addiction.

616
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it's I don't know if

617
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: sex addiction is the right way to put it. I

618
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: think it's a it's a it's a lack of sort of.

619
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Speaker 3: How would I put it, Uh, it's a.

620
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: Lack of directed emotional connection.

621
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Speaker 1: Mhm hmmm, A lack of emotion, A lack of directed

622
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: emotional connection.

623
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Speaker 4: I think that I that I use sort of sexual

624
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: relationships to make up for.

625
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, mmm, in in in what way? Like are you?

626
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: Are you having sex with a lot of different people

627
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: to make up for having like a an emotional connection

628
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: with with any of them.

629
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Speaker 4: I think it's sort of like, I don't see myself

630
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 4: having an emotional connection with any of them, but I

631
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 4: continue to have sexual relationships with them because it sort

632
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 4: of feels a small part of that gap of of

633
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 4: what I'm hoping for searching for?

634
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: What are you hoping for and searching for?

635
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: Hmm?

636
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: What eh for and searching for?

637
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: Do you desire a direct emotional connection?

638
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 4: I would say I do, mm hmm, but I don't

639
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: I have. I haven't found someone that that I I

640
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 4: feel I would want that with yet or the people

641
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 4: that I have I felt like I wanted that with

642
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: has there's hasn't been a reciprocation.

643
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: Tell me about the type of person that you would

644
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: want to have a direct emotional connection with.

645
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: Mmm, I think it's someone that, uh, I just like,

646
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: there's there has to be a vibe. I don't know

647
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 4: any better way to put it. Yeah, it has to

648
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: be there's to be an easiness to it.

649
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Speaker 3: M H.

650
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Speaker 1: Well, so you can say, well, seri's the thing you

651
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: can say vibe. But if you really think about it,

652
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: this vibe, if you thought about it, you could put

653
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: it into words, right, like do you do you desire

654
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: to be with somebody who you feel comfortable in silence around,

655
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: Somebody who could whose lifestyle could easily integrate into yours,

656
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: Somebody who you feel like is on the same intellectual

657
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: level as you. Somebody who you're deeply physically attracted to.

658
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: Somebody who who you feel like has the same sense

659
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: of humor. Like these what you call a vibe can

660
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: be described in in different ways. And I'm curious when

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Speaker 1: you think about this vibe, what what ways you come

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Speaker 1: up with?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean I think it's sort of I

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Speaker 4: think when I'm when I'm looking for a for a

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Speaker 4: romantic relationship, it's it's someone that it's that same circ

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Speaker 4: connection that I have with with someone it's it's just

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Speaker 4: a friend to me, like a very good friend where

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Speaker 4: I connect with them on a on a comedic level,

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Speaker 4: and a like I can have deep conversations with them

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Speaker 4: and there's there's that comfortableness in silence, but also the

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Speaker 4: ability to talk to them about really anything that I'm

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Speaker 4: going through or they're going through.

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Speaker 1: And why do you say that you have a sex addiction?

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Speaker 1: Is it because you feel like you're just using like

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Speaker 1: tell in your head?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think re thinking that. I think

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Speaker 4: sex addicition wasn't maybe wasn't the right way to put it.

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Speaker 4: I think it's more of a use of sex to

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Speaker 4: to fill a gap, which I don't know would be

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that would be necessarily I don't

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Speaker 4: know if that would fit into the realm or definition

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Speaker 4: of a of a sex addiction.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so, but you said that you're using sex to

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Speaker 1: avoid this emotion? Are you like? Is that like, is

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Speaker 1: that true? Or is that like just the narrative you've crafted,

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Speaker 1: like are you are you? Are you using sex to

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Speaker 1: avoid something? Or are you just No, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Think I'm using it to avoid anything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's just sort.

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Speaker 4: Of a sort of a filler.

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Speaker 1: Does does the sex that you have with these people

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Speaker 1: does that leave does it? Does it get you into trouble?

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Speaker 1: Does it lead you unfulfilled? Does it leave other people confused?

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Speaker 1: Or like? What you know? Do you do you? Are

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Speaker 1: there any problems arising out of out of this behavior

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Speaker 1: from you or from the people you're having sex with.

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Speaker 4: I think it's I don't think it's I think if anything,

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Speaker 4: it causes more problems from my elf.

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Speaker 1: Okay, uh, because like.

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Speaker 4: By partaking in it, I sort of pull myself away

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Speaker 4: from like that search within myself, sort of give myself

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Speaker 4: the the how I put it, the space to find

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Speaker 4: myself and within finding myself or space to find it

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Speaker 4: a person within my life that I would want to

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Speaker 4: that I have the ability or want to pursue something

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Speaker 4: further with.

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Speaker 1: Look at this guy, he just therapy geckoed himself.

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Speaker 4: That's what my therapist always says, I do.

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Speaker 1: That's great, your therapist. It sounds like makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of money for doing absolutely nothing. No, I'm just kidding. Sure,

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Speaker 1: So okay, all right, so you know, all right, so

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Speaker 1: you're you're I'm assuming if your therapist has said that

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Speaker 1: to you, that you've come to this conclusion multiple times, like,

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Speaker 1: this is not this is not a light bulb moment

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Speaker 1: that you're having on the phone with me right now.

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Speaker 1: This is something that you've you've come to yourself before.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely it's definitely something that I've I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think this conclusion is definitely something I've come to

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Speaker 4: with myself before. It's not something that I've actually talked

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Speaker 4: with my therapist a lot about. Uh, it's there's so manly,

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Speaker 4: like a thing that's come up, but not something that's

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Speaker 4: talked about a lot. But I definitely like talked about

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Speaker 4: my friends like.

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Speaker 3: A good amount, which.

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Speaker 1: Is so so I mean, so you've come to the

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Speaker 1: conclusion that the the kind of meaningless sex is just

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Speaker 1: taking you away from the like the the the the

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Speaker 1: search as you call it, uh, within yourself. Yeah, i'd say,

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Speaker 1: so that's a smart that's a smart thing to know

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Speaker 1: about yourself.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I think it it's sort of yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: I I think it's also sort of it definitely leaves

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Speaker 6: me with a with a feeling of Yeah, there's definitely

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Speaker 6: a dissatisfaction with it as well.

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Speaker 4: Just uh in terms of like I like I I do,

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Speaker 4: I do a good job of making my intentions clear

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Speaker 4: with people them hooking.

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Speaker 3: Up with or.

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Speaker 4: Like I I think I do. I feel like I

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Speaker 4: do a good job of not leading like a person on.

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Speaker 1: So, so, John, I guess before we go, like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: tell me this all right, So you've come to this

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Speaker 1: conclusion about yourself, and now, as we all know, as

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Speaker 1: we all know, as we've learned time and time and

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Speaker 1: time again, the body, more specifically, the penis will act

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Speaker 1: in ways that conflict with the logic of the brain.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, But.

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Speaker 1: What's your name again? John? John? You are a You

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Speaker 1: are a human being. Oh how should I put this?

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Speaker 6: You are?

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Speaker 1: You are you are a higher being than the ape,

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Speaker 1: than the dog. What I don't have a third animal?

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Speaker 1: You are a higher being and thus perhaps than the

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Speaker 1: than the gecko, than the gecko. Yes, and thus you

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Speaker 1: have the ability to use your brain over your penis.

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Speaker 1: And I I wish you. I wish you luck in

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Speaker 1: fighting that good fight, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

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Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 4: It's been a pleasure talking with you and people of

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Speaker 4: the internet. Take your time.

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Speaker 1: Hey you too, man, see you around.

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Speaker 4: Seud goes on the line taking

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Speaker 2: Every night every beacon goes to teaching you, experien