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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. It is a beautiful friday here in

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh with the rain has finally stopped and it's good enough.

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Speaker 2: Time is any to go ahead and look at Todd

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Speaker 2: mcshay's twenty twenty four two way too early mark draft

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Speaker 2: where he rolls through all of his picks from that

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Speaker 2: he believes will be top picks a year from now.

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Speaker 2: And that's really how he ranks these guys. He's not

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Speaker 2: kind of setting up where he thinks guys are going

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Speaker 2: to go in terms.

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Speaker 1: Of team he needs and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, He's looking at where he who the best

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Speaker 2: guys are in the draft right well.

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Speaker 1: Right, and to his credit, this is an awful assignment.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it's getting more and more popular around

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Speaker 1: the new where you're seeing a handful of mock drafts

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Speaker 1: way too early at all the sites. I think Dane

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Speaker 1: did one. I'm pretty sure that CBS did one. So

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Speaker 1: I find it interesting just to see the names, and

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Speaker 1: so I'm kind of exposed to them, but Todd hates

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Speaker 1: doing it. It's you know, they always hold his feet

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Speaker 1: to the fire, and you know, give him a hard

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Speaker 1: time that your first mock, you had this guy going

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Speaker 1: here and he went in the fourth round, Like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do that much homework on the guy yet,

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Speaker 1: the other thing he does is I think that the

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Speaker 1: draft order isn't his guests, who's going to win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and pick first overall, it's just where the

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Speaker 1: win loss totals are at right now in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So in fact, I'm not even going to list off

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Speaker 2: the teams that he Okay, he has Caleb Williams, a

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Speaker 2: quarterback from USC number one.

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Speaker 1: Okay. The question is interesting is if just based off

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Speaker 1: win totals, Arizona would have the first two picks next year,

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Speaker 1: you know, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: In which case I would expect them to strongly consider

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Speaker 2: taking Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Oh, if they earned a top two pick, whether Kyler

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Speaker 1: murray for whatever you can get him off the books. Plus,

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Speaker 1: he's far from a perfect player, and you take the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At two, Marvin Harrison Junior, the wide receiver from Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: And you haven't thrown at Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: You know that it's not a bad start.

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Speaker 2: At three is Drake may the quarterback from North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: And I firmly believe this that if May or Williams

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Speaker 1: well over any of these quarterbacks. He's also a fantastic prospect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. At four is Dallas Turner, the outside

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they turn him out like I mean, this

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Speaker 1: Ohio stay Yeah, yeah, I mean as usual, and they're

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Speaker 2: At five is kool Aid mckissry, the cornerback from Alabama.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is, but I could be. Let

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Iybe it's the name. We'll find out.

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Speaker 1: Shocked everyone that he went back to school. A lot

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Speaker 2: At twelve is Joe alt the offensive tackle from Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a legacy. I think his dad was

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Speaker 2: Fourteen is Leonard Taylor, defensive tackle from Miami, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen is Jack Sawyer, outside linebacker from Ohio State. So

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's kind of her big type where

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Speaker 2: Sixteen is Kaylin King, cornerback out of Penn State.

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Speaker 1: And if you watch a lot of Penn State film,

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Speaker 1: King got peppered with targets or thrown out a lot

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Speaker 2: And I might mention that Joey Porter junior the highest

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Speaker 2: and so if Kaylen King were the sixteenth best or

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Speaker 2: It's a long history. At seventeen is Mason Smith, defensive

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Speaker 2: At eighteen is Jitavian Sanders, tight end from Texas, So

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Speaker 1: Could we see multiple tight ends in the first round

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Speaker 2: That happened often. Nineteen is Michael Hall junior, defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: Must have a really good front. Yeah, Yeah, twenty your

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Speaker 2: third quarterback is JJ McCarthy quarterback from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got a lot of buddies that went to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty one is a Mecca Agabuka, the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: And maybe five in the first round over three years.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two is Xavier Worthy wide receiver from Texas.

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Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about him except he's very

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Speaker 1: DeVante Smith looking, you know, long, very skinny, But I

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Speaker 2: Twenty three is Cooper de Jon cornerback from Iowa.

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Speaker 1: They a nice corner drafted last year too. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Twenty four is Chop Robinson defensive end from Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Another good name. Another I've looked at a lot of

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Speaker 1: So looks like Penn State's got a chance to have

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Speaker 2: Twenty five is Denzel Burke, cornerback from Ohio State. So

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Ohio State one.

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Speaker 2: No, not get the one wide receiver? Yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Twenty six is j C. Latham offensive tackle from Alaba.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a little of them. He's a massive right

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven is Kaylin Bullock, safety from USC.

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Speaker 1: kind of looks like Hamilton, who the Ravens took. But

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Speaker 1: he can handle that deep middle, which very few do,

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Speaker 1: and very few from this past class handle the deep middle.

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. Twenty eight Kingsley Sue Mattaya.

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Speaker 1: I know he's I know, he's a transfer.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine Javen Bullard cornerback from Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nice caller. Yeah, and he's been on all the list.

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Speaker 1: Clemson guy, highly recruited. Dad was a really good player.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got some size to him as well,

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Speaker 1: So that'd be funny. I mean, to do the Joey

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Speaker 1: Porter move and just draft your alumni kind of do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they don't draft linebackers in the first round.

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Speaker 1: So that's true. That probably wouldn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one is Cooper Bebie, guard from Kansas State.

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Speaker 1: Old school, wide bodied, huge human being guard, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then thirty two is Graham Barton, offensive tackle

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Speaker 2: from Duke.

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Speaker 1: I've heard some calling him a guard. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's an elite athlete. I'm just kind of guessing

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Speaker 1: he's not a super recruit because he's a Duke and

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Speaker 1: he's not, you know, a big, big school. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that's about all I know. About that.

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Speaker 2: Now he's protecting one of the top quarterbacks in the draft.

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Speaker 2: That'll get you noticed.

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Speaker 1: Duke has a good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm thinking of North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mine, never mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm brain dead today, So you'll have to forgive

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Speaker 2: me h today there, Matt. But yeah, So that is

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Speaker 2: Tom mcshay's way too early. Look at the top thirty two.

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Speaker 2: If you look back at his twenty twenty three edition

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Speaker 2: of this, uh, it read like this.

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Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 2: Shroud, Bryce Young, will Anderson, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Jalen Carter,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, Jordan Addison, will Levis, Tyler Van Dyke, he

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Speaker 2: went back to school, Eli Rix did not get drafted.

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Speaker 2: Harris Johnson Junior, Kaylee Ringo, Peter Skeronsky, Brian Brousse, Noah Swell,

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Speaker 2: Miles Murphy, Michael Mayer, Derek Hall, Jon Robinson, Clark Phillips,

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Speaker 2: Kayshawn Butte, Trenton Simpson, bj Ojalai, Henry to Two, Joey

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Speaker 2: Porter Junior, Zion Nelson, Jimi or Gibbs, Tony Grimes, Emil Iiker,

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Speaker 2: Nolan Smith, Josh Downs, and Marvin Mims.

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Speaker 1: So there was like three I think that didn't come

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Speaker 1: out four or five that went noticeably passed the first round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but oh no, that's a pretty good hit rate just

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Speaker 1: getting the names in the right neighborhood. It's pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He ended up with fourteen players that ended up in

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Speaker 2: the top in the first round, including three who were

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Speaker 2: picked in the top five.

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Speaker 1: Well, Porter who won thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're picking quarterbacks, well that's where you

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Speaker 2: kind of lose out because you have Porters, you're not

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Speaker 2: in your top thirty two.

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Speaker 3: But there weren't there.

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Speaker 2: There weren't. There weren't thirty two picks in the first

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Speaker 2: round this year. So, but that was Tom mcshay's way

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Speaker 2: too early mock draft. And Matt, did you know that

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