1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Alright, this is Chase Lee. It's the Philly Show, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Jim Salisbury, Todd so Lucky. It's the Philly Show. It's Wednesday, 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: July sixteenth, twenty twenty five. Hope everybody is doing most 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: excellent during the All Star break. We're all getting our 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: mental breathers. 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: Partying down in Chesapeake in Baby, I'm going my man 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: Gan Marco Martins Shelley some love because his place is awesome. 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: And Todd, you're in Niskanie. I need to talk about 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: that background shot. 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm in Wisconsin. I'm at my parents' house. Family flew out. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: We're spending the week out here. 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: I need a shot at that bar. 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is This is the bar in my parents' 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Basement's the only flight about a half soari, Yeah, I've 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: got Also, it's of got the DRAMBOUI here if I 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: want to make myself a rusty nail. 17 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: Later, you know. 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: But also cool stuff. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: There's like these old my dad found these that you 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: can't see him off screen, but like these old like 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: it's like newspapers, but they're like cardboard cutouts of like 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: the daily baseball results and. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: Not the cardboard cut out of Robin yelt No, this is. 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: I wonder wall real quick. I gotta show this. 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 4: This is pretty cool. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know what this is, but this is 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: like from they send out all these results, baseball results. 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Chuck Klin home run, hit a home run that day, 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth hit two that day. 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: It's kind of cool, very cool. 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: Got some cool stuff down here. 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: You know, you got you gotta Harvey's wallbanger. 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Maker, Harvey's wallbanger. Later, a lot of a lot of 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: Brewers remember remember Harvey Kean. I remember Harvey Keane. Come on, 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: that was great. 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: That was a great nickname. 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: That was a great nickname. Great team. That's that's the 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: team that kind of get me to got. 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: What what was unique about Harvey Kean? 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean he had a wooden leg, He could drink forever. 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, there's so I've read a lot about Harvey Kean. 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Of course it was a great baseball player. Then he 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: managed the Brewers and he had a wooden leg. And 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: uh as as the story was told the eighty two Brewers, 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: they they did tell this story over the years that 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: players occasionally would steal Harvey's leg and hid it in 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: And the Yeah, didn't. 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: You'd have to hop He'd have to hop around and 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: try to find it, and you know they would, they 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: would kind of goof on him. So but they loved 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: their manager. Though it wasn't because they were making fun. 53 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: They just loved the guys, didn't. 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: Buddy Kennedy tell you some of those stories. But he 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: told his grandfather played there. 56 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he told me. Yeah, his grandfather was Don Money. 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: So I of course I was like, tell me, you know, 58 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: you got any good Brewer stories? And he told a 59 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: lot of great a lot of great Bob Bucher stories. 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: And the Harvey Kean stuff was just, I mean legendary. 61 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: And he basically uh confirmed that that that stuff had 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: did happen, because I read this that actually was like, oh, yes, 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: that's that stuff happened. That's on undred percent great. Yeah, 64 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: great stuff. I mean it's just fantastic. So yeah, I'm home. 65 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm home this week. Do a little fishing up north. 66 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: We called up north, like northern Wisconsin called up north. 67 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: So we're going up north. 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: I heard the mosquitoes are like seven forty sevens up there. 69 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: State bird Man. 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: I like to I like to figure out whether or 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 5: not the ones in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada are as big 72 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: as the ones in Wisconsin, because. 73 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: I'll take some pictures. 74 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, please, we can you have a missed mosquito off. 75 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: So, so uh uh a Tuesday's episode, we did a 76 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: look back at the first half. Today, I think we 77 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: should look ahead at the at the second half and uh, 78 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, different things that need to happen, big storylines, 79 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: big storylines, right, and so I think it's time to 80 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: start with the Parks Casino first pitch. First Pitch is 81 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: brought to us exclusively by our partners at Parks Casino, 82 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania's number one casino. So we talk about the Phillies guys, 83 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: and we've talked about this a little bit, the pat 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Well really the past several weeks. We talked about it 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Even. Storyline for me, maybe the number one 86 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: storyline is, I know everybody's going to talk about the bullpen, right, 87 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: you gotta fix that bullpen sleeking oil at times it's 88 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: not very consistent and scares you to death in the 89 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: late innings. But for me, when I watch this team, 90 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: I go, are they going to have enough offense? And 91 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: so for me, the number one storyline in the second 92 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: half is can Bryce Harper return the forim? Can Jim 93 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: you said this and Ruben you said this Tuesday? Can 94 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: the twenty million dollar players return to form? Can they 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: start hating for some power. The one thing that kind 96 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: of makes me nervous about the second half is, you know, 97 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: maybe they don't address the offense and some of these 98 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: guys don't step up. But even if you know, those 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: guys have to step up regardless. So Bryce Harper, Schwarber, 100 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: Castianos bowm all those guys. 101 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: I agree with you, because if if they addressed the 102 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: offense with maybe an outfield right handed bat, it might 103 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: be like a platoon guy or you know, kind of 104 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: a marginal pickup. It might not be a big name 105 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: because I think they're going to use their trade capital 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 4: or their big move in the bullpen. And I've seen 107 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: it before. I've seen Bryce carry this team, carry other teams. 108 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: Player of the Month last year, May and June, you know, 109 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: down the stretch second half of his MVP season. We've 110 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: just seen him put you know in, Schwarber's been great, 111 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 4: but he just needs They just need more in the 112 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: offensive department. And I think if Bryce can put together 113 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: two you know, Bryce Harper months, this team is going 114 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: to be really in a good position. I think I 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: think his just rising up and being Bryce is the 116 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: most important thing that can happen to this team because 117 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 4: they need to score more runs and give that bullpen 118 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: more breathing room, give the starting rotation more breathing room. 119 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: You know, five hundred team. There are five hundred teams 120 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: since June one, You know, five hundred team. They're nineteen 121 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: and nineteen since June one, and they've scored two or 122 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: less runs fourteen times in those thirty eight games, two 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: or less runs. As much as we look at the 124 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: bullpen and it's huge, they got to fix it. They 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: need more offense. Bryce Harper is the guy that can 126 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 4: do it because he makes everybody around him better. Everybody 127 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 4: drafts off from in that lineup. 128 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: And we've talked about this, and you're right, the big 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: boys have to come through, but they also have to 130 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: get some production from guys like Bryce and Stott and 131 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: maybe even Kepler. But because I think the one move 132 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: that they will make at some point, you're going to 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: see Crawford come here. He's not going to be the savior. 134 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: He's going to be here. He's going to play center field, 135 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: because I don't I'm not an amord with the way 136 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: field is being patrolled right now, and I'm not enamored 137 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: with the overall production in the back part of the lineup. 138 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: So I think Crawford may be a guy that they 139 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: add to this to this club. And I do believe 140 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: that there's gonna be a platoon situation in left field. 141 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: Like gott o'keep's gonna get more at bats. He has 142 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: quality at bats and he had a tough game his 143 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: last game in San Diego, but I like the quality 144 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: of his at bats. I think he's going to be 145 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: a contributor against left handed pitching and uh and they're 146 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,119 Speaker 2: gonna have to get contributions from a Mundo Soso against 147 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: left handed pitching because I don't think Scott's going to 148 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: be playing against left handers. And I think you're going 149 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: to see a strict platoon with Stott and with the 150 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: left fielder, and those guys are gonna have to figure out, 151 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: you know, ways to produce and help this team in 152 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: the back part of the lineup. True, all of this 153 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: point is moot if Bryce Harper doesn't become Bryce Harper, 154 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: because if he doesn't and their ability to score runs 155 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: is going to be diminished greatly. And not to put 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: more pressure on the man, but he deserves the pressure 157 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: and he usually responds very well to pressure. 158 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of expectations on that guy when he 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: came here, and still a lot of expects He wants 160 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: a World Series badly. He wants it on his resume badly. 161 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: He needs to. 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Or slab 198 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 6: pack at Arena Club dot com slash foul code foul. 199 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: We're back. Second storyline going to the second half to 200 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: me is the Phillies rotation. Now they have been unbelievable. 201 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: Of course in the first half I talked about this 202 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday like the fourth best performance by any rotation at 203 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: the Break in this Century. Twenty eleven Phillies at the 204 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: top of the list, twenty twenty five Phillies fourth in 205 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: that list. So they've got to keep it up. They've 206 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: got to stay healthy, you know. But there's a lot 207 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: of different things to consider here. When is Aaron Nola 208 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: come back? What does he look like when he comes back? 209 00:10:59,559 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 4: Then? 210 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: What happens with Taiwan Walker? When's Andrew Painter going to 211 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: come up? What's he going to do? Are they going 212 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: to do a six man rotation? 213 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 5: Uh? 214 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: You know, is Ranger Swore is going to be able 215 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: to stay healthy? He's complaining about his shoulder and an 216 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: elbow thing. A couple starts ago. He looked, he looked 217 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: pretty good his last time out. You know, what's is 218 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: mickabel trade bait? Is he gone? The rotation? Guys? Second half? 219 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Can they keep it up? How confident are you their 220 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: ability to keep it up going forward? 221 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: Well, I do think that they're They're they're solid. I 222 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: think that they've done a pretty good job, and they've 223 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 2: got a pretty heavy workload on him. But I think 224 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: they're they're managing it. I think they manage it well. 225 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: I think the fact that none of these guys are 226 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: pitching during the All Star break is a big one, 227 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: and they're not involved in the All Star disappointment that 228 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez and Suarez and Wheeler are not in it. 229 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: But for the team's sake, I think it's a good thing. 230 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 2: I really love the death. I love the fact that 231 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: you're basically getting you're trading for what could be if 232 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: Nola comes back and he's close to where he was 233 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: the last couple of years, You're talking about a solid 234 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: middle of the rotation starter that can add so to 235 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: the depth. And I mean, you're talking about a pretty 236 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: damn good fifth starter if you're bringing Nola back and 237 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: and he is healthy. So I like that. I like 238 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: the fact that who knows what's going to happen as 239 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: far as trade deadline is concerned. But if you get 240 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: into August, you know, you get to the point where 241 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: you can now start maneuvering. Okay, who do I want 242 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: to slide into that bullpen? Now that I have some 243 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: pitching depth, starting pitching depth. Who slides into that bullpen? 244 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: Is it Lozardo? That would be the guy for me 245 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: because I think your first three guys for me right now, 246 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: and probably your fourth guy if he's healthy, is Nola. 247 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, you know, you got two right handers 248 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: and Wheeler and Nola. You got two quality left handers 249 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: and Ranger, Suarez and Christopher Sanchez, and then you slide 250 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: Lozardo into the bullpen to bring up you know, be 251 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: firing that ninety nine to one hundred mile an hour 252 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: fastball with the filthy sweeper and a nasty changeup. Pretty 253 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: damn awesome in a bullpen scenario if he's throwing, you know, 254 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: you have to get hi acclimated to doing that, maybe 255 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: in September, and then you know, work them into it 256 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: in October. I know a lot of people have talked 257 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: about Ranger being that guy, but the way Rangers starting, 258 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: the way he's pitching, and the difference in the types 259 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 2: of pitcher that he is versus some of the other 260 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: guys in the rotation, I think it's a great mix. 261 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: So at the very least I like the top three 262 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: guys as Suarez, Wheeler, and Sanchez, not necessarily obviously in 263 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: that order. 264 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: I agree rotation is a big storyline going forward. It was. 265 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: It's a big reason their first place club at the break. 266 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: It's been the most consistent element really on their team. Basically, 267 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: you want them to continue doing what they're doing, and 268 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: that starts with good health. If they're healthy, I think 269 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: they're going to perform, So you need to keep those 270 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 4: guys healthy. On the health question, Nola has missed most 271 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 4: of the most of the first half with a couple 272 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: of you know, there was an ankle and then the ribcage, 273 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: and honestly, I don't think either one of them were 274 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: serious injuries. This whole thing with there Nola sounds like 275 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: a reset to me, or at least part of it. 276 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: Not doubting he had injuries, but I just think this 277 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: is like this byproduct to it all that it's a reset, 278 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: it's a mental break, it's a physical break, and whatever 279 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: you want to call it. And I'm just very curious 280 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: to see how he comes back. If he comes back 281 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: really fresh from this break, and it's like a home 282 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: stretched drive for him. He's almost he could almost be 283 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: like a hired gun. But we're not going to go 284 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: no for a while because I don't expect to see 285 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: him in the rotation until mid August, and then, you know, 286 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: six or seven weeks he should be able to put 287 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: the pedal to the metal. So that's a nice, nice 288 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: boom for this rotation potentially. I know Andrew Painter has 289 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: not put up good numbers, A triple A. It's a 290 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: head scratch here, But I still think we're going to 291 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: see him here at some point. I still believe we're 292 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: going to see him here at some point. If we don't, 293 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: we don't, and I still think he has a chance 294 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: to be a great pitcher and pitching this rotation for 295 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: a long time. I'm not going to read too much 296 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: into it if he's not. But I still think he 297 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 4: gets here, gets his feet wet, and I wouldn't be 298 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: surprised if he contributes, because I think once he's here, 299 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: some adrenaline is going to really kick him. 300 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: For that guy to be thinking another thing, one other 301 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: thing I was saying about Painter. I think Painter's not 302 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: going to come until he's really thrown well, right, now 303 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: he's not real sharp, he's not dominating. I don't know 304 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: whether it's because he's bored, as Jim may have suggested, 305 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: which is a possibility, because he's been waiting, you know, 306 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: it's just time. It's time for him, it's time for him. 307 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: Maybe he's just not bearing down. I don't think that's 308 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: in a nature, in his nature, but it's possible. 309 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: But he's gonna have to perform. 310 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: He needs to perform to get called up to the 311 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: big leagues, and he needs to earn it, because if 312 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: he's not earning it, then then I don't think that's 313 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: the right thing to do. 314 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 8: Uh. 315 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: There's other guys down there, able in particularly who went 316 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: down there and pitch pretty well in his first start 317 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: when he went back down, who probably right now deserves 318 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: to be in the big leagues before Andrew Painter does, 319 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: probably do we think? 320 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: So what if Painter comes up, is he's strictly is 321 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: it strictly gonna be as part of a six man 322 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: rotation the way hiven. 323 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: Nola could pay me back out of the gate. Because 324 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 4: they're gonna watch it a little bit early. Yeah, they're 325 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: gonna watch him even if he comes here and he's dealing. 326 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: I don't think you'll ever see him pitch more than 327 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: five innings, but he does have to get here. And 328 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the power stuff is there. It 329 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: sounds like he just doesn't have that that Andrew Painter 330 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 4: finished that they've seen in the past. Maybe that's slow 331 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: coming back from Tommy John, you know, I don't know, 332 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: but it's a head scratcher. He hasn't pitched better. 333 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: A lot of home runs. I feel like, you know, 334 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: he's been you know, just yeah, giving up. You know, 335 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: every time I look at his line square, I feel 336 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: like there's two or three in there. It's a lot 337 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: of home runs lately. And then but it was it 338 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: Ruben interesting. I guess, I guess I should have thought 339 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: of that. But the idea that, yeah, if Nola comes back, 340 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: and if Painter does come up, or if Painter doesn't, 341 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: even if Painter doesn't come up, you know, one of 342 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: those guys is gonna have to go to the bullpen 343 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: and get Lizardo acclimated. If it's gonna be if it's 344 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: gonna be Lozardo, it might be somebody else, I don't know, 345 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: but uh, then you have September to kind of get 346 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: him adjusted. To that role, which is going to be 347 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: so important once the postseason starts because you need more 348 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: reliable arms down there. So I love that idea. 349 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 8: I mean, if you don't get l Varado back, because 350 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 8: you're not going to get him for the playoffs, you 351 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 8: got to have and they don't trade for a left 352 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 8: hander in the bullpen, then you're sitting there with Tanner 353 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 8: Banks and Tanner Banks. 354 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: And Strong and that's it. Yeah, And I you know, 355 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: I'd love to have another left hander and Lozardo. Yeah, 356 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: that's a weapon out of that bullpen for me. And 357 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: hopefully everybody's healthy enough so that they can make that choice. 358 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: So this brings us up to the storyline number three, 359 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: which is how is the bullpen addressed? Can it produce 360 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: in the second half down the stretch? Will you be 361 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: able to turn on a game if you're watching at 362 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: home in September or October with the one run lead 363 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: tour and lead late in the game and feel good 364 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: about the team's chances of doing it? So how far 365 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: do you think, do you guys, gun to your head 366 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: right now? How far do they going to improve this bullpen? 367 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: They go out and get class a big, big guy 368 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: that give up is aid Aiden, Miller gone or you know, 369 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: ty Eaton Escabar, Ruin Escobar. How far do they go 370 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: for this? 371 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 4: I think those guys in a ball are definitely going 372 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 4: to be in play. Yeah, I don't think either one 373 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: of those guys are going to hold them up a 374 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: big deal. Miller might not. Sometimes I wonder about Crawford 375 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: because he's the closest of all of them and a 376 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: real need at the position he plays center field, left field, 377 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 4: so I'm not saying he's untouchable, but there's a variable 378 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 4: there that you know he might be here soon at 379 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 4: an area of need. So I think everybody's on the 380 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: table able. I don't think Painter is. But you never 381 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: know what opportunity comes down the road. If you know, 382 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 4: if something intriguing comes down the road, we'll see. I mean, 383 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: you know, Closse has one of the best contracts in baseball. 384 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 4: I don't even know if he's available. Is he available? 385 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I hear his name, I hear so. One 386 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 4: of the real challenges of this time of year is 387 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 4: separating the good from the bad, the real stuff from 388 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: the bs. He's got a great contract, you know. I 389 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 4: don't know that the Indians are gonna trade him, but 390 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe not. But I would keep an 391 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: eye on that Minnesota bullpen. 392 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 2: Uh. 393 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: It is teeming with good arms. It is teaming with 394 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: guys with big strikeout numbers. I'm talking like four guys. Yes, 395 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 4: it is teaming with the type of guys they need, 396 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: you know, the closer Duran. I mean, you know that 397 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: Varlin guys having a great year, Kobe Jack's you know, 398 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 4: if you get two of them. I would keep an 399 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 4: eye on Baltimore with Bautista, maybe Bautista and Sarantony. There's 400 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: a there's a big guy and a secondary guy. You 401 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: never know. Maybe Bautista and Loreano, the outfielder, right handed 402 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: bat have a very nice year, plays with some tude. 403 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 4: I like him, but maybe you don't go about down 404 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: to Baltimore Road again. But those are the two teams I'm. 405 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: Really watching interesting. 406 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: I look it, Hey, listen, I think that I don't 407 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: there's any question that uh, Dave Don Brownski's helping on 408 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: trying to improve this team, and there's a lot of 409 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 3: prospects in play. 410 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: Let's just put it that way. 411 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: It's such a I mean, there's no snap your fingers though. 412 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: Even if they would get two guys from the Minnesota 413 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: or two guys from Baltimore? How many other And that's 414 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: that's that's I mean, you know, Rubin, you were in 415 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: those shoes, man like. That's that's the part that would 416 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: just keep me up at night going, I'm going to 417 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: trade Aiden Miller and Edward O Tayet and a Rude 418 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: Escobar or whoever it might be. And man, is this 419 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: offense gonna hit come back? Come the NLC Wildcard series? 420 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to win two games 421 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: in the Wildcard Series? Or or if they win the division, 422 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: are they going to be able to win three games 423 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: in the division series? 424 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: That would keep you always a crapshoot man. And and 425 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you just gotta sometimes you gotta risk it. 426 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I risk it. 427 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I man bold he when you got a chance 428 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: to win, and this team has a chance to win, 429 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: it's very very it would be it would be disappointing 430 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: with this sort of rotation to not add to it, 431 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: because you really do have a legitimate chance of winning 432 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: a world series with this rotation. Yes, the other pieces 433 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: in the part have to produce, The offense has to produce, 434 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: but you've got a real chance to shut down teams 435 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: with at least three of these starters. And that's a 436 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: really good percentage. 437 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: An historically good rotation. Take advantage of that. 438 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 4: If they don't, you can if they don't improve this bullpen. 439 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: And I feel funny saying that because I am very 440 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 4: one hundred percent confident they will. I have one hundred 441 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: percent confident he's going to get a dominant arm and 442 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: he's gonna give up something big and it's gonna sting. 443 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 4: But on the chance that they don't, the veteran offensive 444 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 4: players in that clubhouse are going to be very disappointed. 445 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: No, not no doubt about that. So All Star Game 446 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: is over. It's Wednesday, Phillies zoom play on Friday against 447 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: the Angels. Open up the second half against the Angels. 448 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: You know what's funny I was thinking about. I'm interrupting you, Tom, 449 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Once upon a time, the Angels would have 450 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 4: created all this buzz Mike Trout was coming to town. Ye, 451 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: now there's like no buzz because he's he's unfortunately, he's 452 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 4: been hard a lot. He's not the Mike Trout of 453 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: old because of the injuries, and he doesn't get on 454 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: the field as much. There's doesn't seem to be that buzz. 455 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: You're right about that, You're right, and and I forgive me. 456 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: Has he even played in the outfield since he came back? 457 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: I know he was dhing for the longest time. I 458 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: don't even know if he's back out in the outfield yet. 459 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 1: But it didn't not sure. He's not a guy that, 460 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, even if he was, you know, even if 461 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: the Angels called you up tomorrow and said, yeah, do 462 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: you want Mike Trout, I mean you need to play 463 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: in the outfield. 464 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: He's own two hundred million, right, Yeah, he's a. 465 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: Lot of money. He's owed a lot of money. I mean, 466 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: that would be be fun. But so yeah, Friday night, 467 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Phillies zoom play against the Angels. Begin the second half. 468 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: If you want to follow on the action, make a 469 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: little bit more interesting, Rubin, you have a little you 470 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: have some ideas. 471 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. But it does create a little bit 472 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: of a buzz for me, Jim, because my man Mark 473 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: Goobers as one of the color analysts on TV, and 474 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 2: he was my old teammate and the man that I 475 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: got my very first extra base hit against, and is 476 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 2: that right? 477 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 4: High school and. 478 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: My very first RBI against believe it or not really 479 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: pitching the last name for the Angels myself and the 480 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: Kandisity against the Tennessee Rulves. 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We believe Andrew 515 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Painter is going to come up at some point. Maybe 516 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: mckabel comes back at some point. Maybe he's traded, maybe 517 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: he's used in a trade. Ruben, when you said when 518 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: you said Justin Crawford could come up at some point, 519 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: whose spot does he take and how does that work? 520 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: He's coming to the big leagues, and I think they're 521 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: gonna have to make some type of roster move because 522 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: they're not really making either. Either you have to send 523 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: a guy like Johann Rojas out or you have to 524 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: make some sort of roster move with Kepler because he 525 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: just hasn't produced. And the question is is Crawford going 526 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: to give you more offensive and defensively than what Kepler 527 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: brings you in left field on the daily? And Kepler 528 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: hasn't done it. I know that they're hoping that he does. 529 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: I was in the same mindset with Jim and you 530 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: Todd about how he looked in the spring and how 531 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: he might produce for this team. He just hasn't done it, 532 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: hasn't gotten comfortable. And now I mean I thought it 533 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: said a lot when Otto Kemp played against the right 534 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: hander and the last game prior to this first half 535 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: being over against San Diego. I know Kemp did not 536 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: have a great day, punch out a few times, but 537 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: it says a lot, and I think they want to 538 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: need to find out whether Otto Kemp can be at 539 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: least a platoon in left field. And I mean, unless 540 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: Camp starts to produce at some point in the next 541 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: month or the next couple of weeks, I would not 542 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: be surprised if some mood had made to bring guy 543 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: like Crawford and do some juggling with that outfield. 544 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: So, with all the question marks in the outfield at 545 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 4: center field and left field, and Crawford's relevance to both positions, 546 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 4: is he on the table for a trade for you, Reuben. 547 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 2: He's on the table for a trade if you're able 548 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: to really bring back something quality because he's so close, 549 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: you really have to have somebody's going to made him 550 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 2: make a media impact with your major league team. I 551 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: don't know if you move with Justin Crawford unless you 552 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: know you're getting a guy who's either locking down that 553 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: ninth inning and you're doing it for a guy who's 554 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: just not just knocking down the ninth inning for a 555 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: month and a half, but he's doing it for another 556 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: few years. That's the only way I would move a 557 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: guy like Crawford because he's so close and could really 558 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: impact my major league team in the short term. 559 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thinking I'm a little bit careful with him 560 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: because he's so close and correct. It's an area of 561 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: need yep Man. 562 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: He produces at every level too. I know everybody talks 563 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: about his ground ball rate and he's not getting the 564 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: ball in the air, three hundred, three hundred batting average 565 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: everywhere still means something. Getting on base, yeah, base hits, 566 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: base hits. Let's your trade turning, and he still don't 567 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: make the all start team. Last storyline for me, guys 568 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: number five going into the second half or in the 569 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: second half. 570 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: Is. 571 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: Do you think they sign anybody to a contract extension 572 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: before the end of the season. Kyle Schwarber talked to 573 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: him on Friday night after he hit that thirtieth home 574 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: run in San Diego, and you know, said, hey, do 575 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: you think there's a chance that you know that you 576 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: could get something done before the end of season or 577 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: do you think at this point that ship is sailed 578 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: and let's just let things happen in the offseason. And 579 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: Kyle said, you know, honestly, haven't talked to anybody in 580 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: a while. I don't know, you know he's going to 581 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: say that, but he said, you know, my guys are 582 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna be at the Aulcar game. Maybe there are some 583 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: conversations still to be had. Maybe we do get something 584 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: done me, but maybe we don't. If we don't, I'm 585 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: still gonna play my butt off and try to help 586 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: the team win the World Series. I think if they're 587 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: gonna sign anybody to a contract ascension in season, it's 588 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: probably gonna be Kyle Schwarber. Do you guys agree, disagree? 589 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any shot at JT? Do you 590 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: think there's any shot at Ranger? I know before the 591 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: season started, all three of us said probably no chance 592 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: that Ranger comes back. Opinions change on that. 593 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: Not really. I would agree with you. If anybody signs 594 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 4: between now and the end of the season, probably I 595 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: think Ranger could end up being a budget cut. And 596 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: as much as I mean, he's a great pitcher, would 597 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 4: be great to have him back. I just think they're 598 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: knee deep and humongous contracts and they need to bring 599 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: back Schwarber, and they might have some young pitching coming that, 600 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 4: if all goes well, can move into ranger spot and 601 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: maybe someday perform adequately to fill it. I don't know, 602 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: but uh, and I think JT is probably going to be, 603 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 4: you know, go out and kind of like he was 604 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: last time, go out and see what's out there and 605 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: come back to us, And we'd like to do a 606 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: two year deal, as we talked about in the last 607 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 4: couple of podcasts. Yeah, Zach Wheeler is already stumping for him. 608 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: Zach Wheeler is going to be around two more years, 609 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: so maybe a two year extension would make sense there, 610 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: But that's probably the way I see it. 611 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: I disagree with you about this. I do think that 612 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: JT will sign a multi year deal before the end 613 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: of the season. And I'll tek you, okay, because one 614 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 2: pitching is their starting pitching is their biggest strength too. 615 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: They need somebody to catch that starting pitching, and JT's 616 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: the guy because there's nobody that's close in the big 617 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: leagues who is that guy? Ty got a chance to 618 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: be that guy in a few years, but he's not 619 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: ready and he may be traded. So I do think 620 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: that there is some there's some connection between the fact 621 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: that he might is availability and the that they lock 622 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 2: up a guy like JT. The other the other factor 623 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: here is Abel and Painter are coming and if they're 624 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: not traded, they are going to be guys that need 625 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: to be managed through games by JT. So I think 626 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: there's a whole slewth reasons why it's important to sign them. 627 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: Why I would sign him and be preemptive about on 628 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: a short term deal. I wouldn't do a long term 629 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: deal with the guy. But I just think he brings 630 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: so much to the table as far as preparing, managing players, 631 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: catching guys, and the fact that Zach Wheeler is basically 632 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: this guy. And I think there's I think those factors, 633 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: a lot of those factors are one of the reasons 634 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: why he may sign before Schwarber does. 635 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 4: Those are great, great points, especially the ones about Abel 636 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 4: and Painter managing those guys. He might trade TAYI to me, 637 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 4: that all gives JT leverage, So why wouldn't you? That's 638 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: why why would try? 639 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: That's why you try to sign them now before you 640 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: trade t I got it, Yeah. 641 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 4: But I don't know that if you had that leverage, 642 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: you could go out of the market, maybe get more 643 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: than a two year deal from the Phillies. Do you 644 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 4: you sound like you have some inside info? What are 645 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 4: you holding on on us? I got nothing. 646 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking. I mean, I'm thinking as a GM 647 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: I used to be one. 648 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: Unless you guys forget I remember, I. 649 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: Think I think you're holding out on US. 650 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 5: I just feel like I just feel like there is 651 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 5: an incentive to do that, and so did these so 652 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 5: that the leverage, leverage is not created, go out there 653 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 5: and sign them to the two year deal, be aggressive 654 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 5: with it, get it done, and then it opens up 655 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 5: possibilities of doing on some other things. 656 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 4: So not only are you saying he could sign before 657 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 4: the end of the season, you're you're saying you could 658 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: sign before the end of the month. I like that. 659 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 4: I think you got inside info and you're holding off. 660 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: I wish he did. I wish I did. 661 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: That'd be great, That'd be great. Yeah, Yeah, we gotta start. 662 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: We gotta break news on the Philly Show. 663 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 664 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: We got to break news on the Philly Show. 665 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: I got it. 666 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: I wish he did. 667 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: But you know, but his impact on that pitching staff. 668 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: We've talked about this so much. You know, people always ask, 669 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: you know you talk about college s Warburn's leadership. I 670 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: always say, you cannot over sell how you know big 671 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: he is in the clubhouse in terms of the leadership JT. 672 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: Same thing with the pitching staff. I'm telling you every 673 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: pitcher in that clubhouse loves throwing that guy, and they 674 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: all talk him up big time. 675 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: Zach dedicated, any cares, he dedicated and cares about his 676 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: pictures man, and he is a he is a solid, solid, 677 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: solid clubhouse man. 678 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: He gets the crap kicked out of him in the game. 679 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you see this guy drop like a freaking 680 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: boxer in a heavyweight fight against Mike Tyson over and 681 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: over again, and it's like the one. There's like one 682 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: game he left recently and I think everybody thought the 683 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: same thing, is like, he must be really hurt if 684 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: he's leaving the game, because that guy never leaves a game. Yeah, 685 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: that's what it was. Yes, the fruitball, Fruitball. That's the 686 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: only time that j will leave a game. That Yeah, 687 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: that guy is man of steel. The man of Steel. 688 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: So all right, well, we will be back later this 689 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: week to talk more phils. That was fun, guys, So 690 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: if you missed, yeah, Tuesday's episode got check that out. 691 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: We kind of wrap up the first half and uh, 692 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: we'll figure out something to talk about lair this week. 693 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 4: Looking forward to it. Smell lady, boys, It's made jee. 694 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 695 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 696 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. If you like us, give 697 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: us a review, follow us on Instagram, TikTok x, Facebook, 698 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: and threads. 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