WEBVTT - Stalking Bears & Bear Attacks with Primitive Outfitting 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.600 You're listening to the Sportsman's Nation podcast network, brought to 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.560 you by Exodus Trail Cameras. Now it's summertime, and that 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.879 means it's time to start thinking about getting our trail 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:13.360 cameras out and start capturing pictures of this velvet antler 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.040 growth that we all obsess about. And our friends at 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:20.120 Exodus are kicking things off with Velvet Fest. Long story short, 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:22.680 Velvet Fest is the opportunity for you to win a 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.880 variety of prizes just by purchasing Exodus Trail Cameras, one 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.040 of the best trail cam companies in the industry. 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Finally Gary walks over to me and he's like, Clay, 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.479 did you not hear us? Did that? Here's Alan pressure Colin. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.280 It was just like, why didn't you hear? And then 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.520 I told him I'm literally deaf in my right here. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:25.520 It was like he was getting mad at me for 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.240 not being a walk but I was in a wheelchair. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.640 My name is Clay Nucleman. I'm the host of the 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:42.039 Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your host into 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:46.760 the world of hunting the Icon and North American wilderness. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:51.400 There we'll talk about tactics, gear, conservation, but will also 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.280 bring you into some of the wildest country on the 0:01:54.320 --> 0:02:04.280 planet chasing. British Columbia is an incredible place to hunt 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.880 black bear. In May of nineteen just recently, we were 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.280 in British Columbia at the camp of Jeff Lander and 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:17.800 Primitive Outfitting. In this conversation, Jeff and I are joined 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:23.440 by Jeff's longtime friend and got Gary Hillshirt. Gary is 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:27.799 a veteran mountain hunter. He's had a lot of experience 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.600 hunting both black and grizzly bears, and Jeff is a 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:36.880 longtime outfitter and veteran northern hunter, and Jeff has had 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:41.160 some incredible experiences with black and grizzly bears. On this podcast, 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.560 we're gonna talk about stock and bears. So this is 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.360 a spotting stock hunt that we're on and there's a 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.880 lot of misconceptions about stock and bears, basically that it's easy, 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.200 and we go through many examples of things that happened 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.359 on this hunt that really surprised actually all of us, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.400 and so we're gonna talk about this specifics of stalking 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:07.000 black bears. We also dive into some of the bear 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.160 conflicts that these guys have been just an arms reach 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.040 away from in British Columbia with a black bear, malley 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.000 and some grizzlies stuff. So you're gonna enjoy this podcast 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:29.400 with Jeff and Gary and British Columbia. Welcome to the 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:34.880 Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. We are in the wild places 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.400 of British Columbia, Canada. I cannot give specific details where 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.920 this camp is, but we're at the camp of Jeff 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:49.160 Lander and Primitive Outfitting British Columbia. We're here this week 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.880 hunting the giant black bears of the far North. Um. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:59.720 So I have his guest today, Jeff Lander and his 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:06.480 good buddy and God. And uh, I'll let you introduce 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:12.840 Gary Jeff, but Gary Hillsher but Jeff before we'll introduce 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.640 Gary first. Well, Gary and I have been guiding together 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:22.440 twenty something years now, so real quickly. The first time 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.160 I met Gary, tax german friend of ours, just up 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.320 for going on a sheep hunt, and he shows up 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.679 at the coffee shop. How do you remember these things 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.080 on his on his crotch rocket, Oh, with a very 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:43.960 bright jacket, very bright fluorescent jacket and lightning bolts cut 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.240 into the side of his head. No way, So I 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:52.800 thought my friend Harley was messing with me with some 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.880 some dude who who knows. I mean, it was weird. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.560 But he lost a bed at work and had to 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.640 cut cut lightning bolts and his head. So I can't 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:07.360 believe we've been married for this long, I know, No, 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.400 Gary and I have. Yeah, we've done done a lot 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.160 of stuff together and gone through some good times and 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.640 crazy times. And yeah, so so he's been he's been 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:22.520 guiding for you here at your bear camp for Yeah, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.000 so how long when did that start? Thirteen years ago? 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:29.960 Thirteen years ago? Then before is Alberta with white tail? 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:34.279 Yeah okay, so in an area that I didn't never 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.000 even step foot in, I had rifle tags and he 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.919 ran it up in northern Alberta, okay, way north. So yeah, 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.880 so Gary's a Gary's a god and he GUIDs all 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:50.159 over the place. Yeah, so what about you introduce yourself. Yeah, 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.919 well the best thing about you is you're married to 0:05:54.400 --> 0:06:02.280 in our Kansas absolutely a good one now started ninety four, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.680 I think, um in the avanton Boson for white tail. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.120 So in Alberta you can buy individual tags versus BC, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.520 you've gotta buy a actual hunting area. So when you're 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.719 a young person trying to get into the outfitting game, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.960 Alberta was perfect because you could buy one tag or 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.040 fifty tags, but you could. That was prime time for 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.680 Canadian white tail hunting early nineties. Absolutely, the evanton Boson 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:32.880 was the destination before quality deer management started happening in 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:37.440 the state side. So yeah, um yeah, so it's been uh, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.880 it's been a long time, but and so currently primitive 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.040 outfitting you got, so you started out with white tail, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:48.200 but now you're primarily guiding moose, mule deer, and black bear, 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.560 Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, it was white tails. Then 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.240 I got into mule deer in southern Alberta. I had 0:06:55.279 --> 0:07:00.800 about six or seven years of waterfowl in central Alberta. Um, 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.920 but then waterfall and muled, you're kinda there's a conflict there. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.760 I mean as far as the same timing when the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.839 birds are coming on at the same time we're hunting 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.640 muled here. So but I sold all my Alberta stuff 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.000 to buy here, and then I slowly bought back what 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:21.080 I had in Alberta. Yeah. Yeah, So we're gonna do 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:25.120 We're gonna do another podcast on this trip where we're 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:29.240 gonna talk about like the just the full gamut of 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.200 of black bear hunting and what we're doing this week. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.120 But on this podcast specifically, I want to want I 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.600 want to talk about with you guys, is stalking black bears? 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.280 Stalking bears? So uh, for people that listen to this 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.440 podcast a lot, a lot of times, we have these big, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.440 like roundtable discussions where it's just we're just talking about 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.080 general things, but then we have these like pretty specific 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:57.440 topic based podcasts and so UM, so that's why what 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.240 I wanted to talk to you guys about today. I mean, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.360 we've been hunting with Gary now for three days, and uh, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.840 we've learned a ton. Um in my experience with black 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:14.440 bears is this is the first spotting stock, traditional archery 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.440 western black bear hunt that I've done. So I've hunted 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.480 in BC a couple of times, hid in the Western 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.760 US several times for black bear, uh for with with 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:27.280 a rifle, and that's hard enough. On this hunt. Because 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.920 of well many reasons, I chose to bring the stick 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.080 bow out here. Jeff is a big time traditional archer, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.719 that's all he does. And so um uh the name 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.120 it was Outfits, primitive, outfiting. So how could I bring 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.000 anything but the tread bow. And so this is a 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.320 big this is this is kind of like another checkbox 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.760 type hunt for me, really, and I've I've killed spotting 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.199 stock bears in Arkansas with the tread bow. Um. But 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:59.160 I feel like there's a lot of misconceptions about stock 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.880 and these bears, just in general and the general hunting world. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.040 Let me just start off with with the The general 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:11.080 conception perception is that bears are stupid, bears are easy 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:16.480 to stock and bears can't see. That's a that's a perception. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:24.120 And but what we have seen in the last three days, Gary, 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:28.760 is that uh there there well, and not just the 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.120 last three days. But they're harder stock than you think. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.240 I mean, they really are, and there's there's several reasons 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.800 for that. But Jeff, if you had to describe what 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.240 it takes. And again, we're trying to, especially with the 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.480 stick boat, we're trying to get inside of twenty yards 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.240 and I heard Gary say many times this week it's 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.959 it's pretty not easy, but doable to get inside of 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:56.160 fifty even with most animals. But closing that distance down 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.640 to twenty and under, Yeah, I mean you're you're up 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.520 in his is grill big time. And you gotta do 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.200 a lot of things right, I gotta have a lot 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.040 of things going for you. But Jeff, how would you 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:13.559 describe stalking black bears? What what does it take? You 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.600 gotta know one to move and no one to stop, basically, 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:21.760 so um and Gary's experiences are different. And I'm glad 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.480 you said this is the you know, the time you're 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.520 gonna do it, because you would have been probably tagged 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.160 out by now if you rifle one thing. But I 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.480 don't know if that's good or bad. That one is huge. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:38.120 But anyway, I mean I think what most folks who 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.520 come up here are confused. I know last week, Um, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.120 when I when I start like, I close the distance 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.959 and I close it fast. And even if I'm wide 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.800 open to these bears and he's walking away or his 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.880 heads down or he's not looking, I bug because part 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.719 of the issue up heres wind. Wind can kill you, 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.599 and it can change very quickly as well as you 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.360 saw in fields or on the you know, in the 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.600 meadows or on the logging roads or whatever. It's never 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.360 a consistent in your face spent two So when when 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.160 the moment is right, you better capitalize on that moment. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.040 So my approach and Gary's is probably different. But I 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.360 try to get within sixty seventy yards as fast as 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.400 I can in the wide open and then stop and whatever. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.760 And um, you're dealing with bears that that are looking 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.439 over their shoulders for grizzlies. I mean I've seen seven 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.640 this week. Um they don't like them, you know, I mean, 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.839 there's so they're tiggy to begin with. And yeah, so 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.120 move move fairly quick and and that let me stop 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.640 on that point right there, because that is something that's 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.880 very different than stalking an ungulate, is that like these 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.800 bears we've been seeing there out in the middle of 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.480 the field with their head in the grass, and they 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:01.439 are they're not a prey animal. They don't have eyes 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.240 on the sides of their head, they don't quite have 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.120 the prifeal vision, well, they don't have near the perfeal 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.320 vision of an ungulate. And so like, if that bears 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.560 butt is towards you and his head is in the grass, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:16.680 you can move fast towards him. They're they're not they're 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.800 not you know you do that on a deer. I 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.560 mean he's gonna he's got a routine where every fifteen 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.000 seconds he's lifting his head and getting it basically a 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.400 three and sixty degree view around him. That's the one 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.600 place that the bear is weak is you know, he's 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.480 a predator. He's got eyes on the front of his head. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:38.240 And so that key right there. I think it's significant 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:42.080 when you can move move fast, you get busted if 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.400 you did that with a deer. Yeah, but you'll notice 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.200 too when you're watching them that they are i mean 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.920 they're swinging their heads and they're they're keeping tabs of 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.800 what's going on around them. While see in some of 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.440 the places you've been that notoriously where you've been hunting 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.240 is big grizzly country. Yes one in particular who's there 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.880 pretty much every year, and so they're casual. But you 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.839 watch them mostly through a scope or through good binoculars, 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.320 and they're swinging their heads and they're looking. They're looking 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.120 at the edges there. They know what's around them. They 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:16.240 do and a lot of times with mostly the big boars, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.480 and it's what gets them killed. Is there cocky and 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.360 you know that the sows and the smaller boars will 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.800 just fly off, you know, wherever they're at if they 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.719 see something. But sometimes there's big boars. They're aggressive. You know, 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.520 they'll tolerate you to a certain point, mostly during the rut, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.480 and if you get aggressive with them as well, that's 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.720 what gets them killed because they they're proud that when 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:45.959 you say you get aggressive with let let them see you. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.000 If he's with a sow, we we wollf at and 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.120 we do what they do And a lot of times 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.559 they come back for that second look, which is what 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.280 gets them to narrow and do them right. This time 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.520 of year, we're dealing with bears are feeding coming right 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:05.080 out of the den. Um. You know, they're powering up 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.880 because they haven't eaten in five right, So now they're 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.600 not quite as aggressive, No, but they also are They're 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:16.439 pretty protective of their prime feeding spots, so they can be. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.360 But it's yeah, um, so these bears, and I thought 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.360 that was a good point, and I wouldn't have thought 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.040 of it. I'm owned until you said it the other day. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.160 But these bears are edgy not because of hunting pressure. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.560 They're edgy because there's a First of all, there's a 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.720 lot of black bears here. I mean we're seeing we're 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.240 seeing a lot of bears. I told I told Brent, 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.320 we're seeing as many bears here on spot and stock 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.160 hunt typically as we would on a good baited hunt 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.960 in Canada. Really, I mean seeing seven or eight bears 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.920 a day. Um. And that's some of that's just driving 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.080 down the road and seeing one across the road. But 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.400 so there's a lot of bears, a lot of big 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.680 black bears, but also a wad of grizzly bears. So 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:02.720 these bears are constantly on edge. Yesterday we I stalked 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.880 a bear that we didn't fully, we hadn't really gauged 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.720 him that much. We didn't know if he was a 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.960 shoot or not. But we went ahead and they sent 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.840 me around and I got way out from the guys 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.200 while they were on one side of the field, and 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.840 I got with him, probably thirty to forty yards of 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.280 this bear. And uh, we're not sure if the wind 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.240 got me or what happened, but I think he may 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.720 have heard me. Gary. I walked underneath one of these 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.120 big fur trees. It had rained, and so it was 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.600 it was pretty pretty quiet everywhere else, but just the 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:34.880 way I had to go, I had to walk into 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.520 this fir tree where it was dry, and I mean 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:42.080 I was Indian tiptoe and and uh, I stepped on 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:48.400 one little stick and uh, I couldn't even see the bear. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.000 But after I stepped on my stick, I slowed down 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.560 and I saw the bear's head raised up. And I 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.160 think he heard that stick and thought I was a bear. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.440 He didn't hear that stick and think I was a man. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.160 He heard a stick and thought I was a bear, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.160 and I was like a bear coming And he didn't 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.359 booger off too bad, but he it changed his trajectory 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.880 and he moved out of the way, and I mean 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.760 it was just kind of like, jeez, I thought this 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.920 was gonna be a little easier than this. And bear 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.520 just put a run in another bear about a half 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.000 an hour earlier and put that bear up a tree 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:21.080 in front of us. Right. He was jittery already, came 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.640 right out and did that. Was pretty cool. Yeah, Gary, 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:29.400 what so let's say you're you're you're taking somebody, what 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:34.480 do you You gave me some instruction when uh when 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.640 when we first met earlier this week, Uh, what would 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.920 you tell a guy that was spotting the stalking bears 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:47.840 out here? I think Jeff answered that, Um yeah, same 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.560 thing with Jeff said, you know when they're um covered 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.360 the distance fast. Over the years, we've had a lot 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.600 of guys because of deer hunting, you know, that's mainly 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.000 what they've done. Where they um they moved so slow 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:03.520 and everything's um indicated for how they move in and 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.159 the wind changes so fast here so many times that 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.040 uh yeah, cover that first whatever x amount of hundreds 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.040 of yards and down to that sixty seventy yard distance 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.520 with that fifty yard distance, uh as fast as you 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.719 can so um, you know, before the wind changes, especially 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.439 where we were in that field. I mean, that feels 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.320 hard to hunt regardless we've got it done there. You know, 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.399 quite a few times there's certain parts that field are 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.440 so so hard to hunt because the wind is swirling 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.160 right and um um yeah, those bears I mean, like, well, 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.639 like most animals, their noses are amazing, even if it 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.000 looks like they're not paying attention. What's cool is when 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:36.760 I get to sit back, Um, I like a lot 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.160 of guys, I gotta go in with them, and you're 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.800 doing the stalks yourself with that, which I think is awesome. Um. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.720 We get to see what the bear does and you 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.920 get to see that head come up constantly, even what 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.399 like you said, it's not really it looks like it's 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.159 not really looking, but man, it's wind checking. And you 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.120 can a lot of times kind of see them smacking 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:54.720 their lips and I think they're almost i don't know, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.399 tasting the wind or something looks weird, um, but just 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.880 checking that out right. Um. Um, like Jeff said, because 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.919 of just a lot of the bears and a lot 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.760 of the grizzly bears around them. Um, you know, who 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.440 knows what goes on for the things we don't see 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.240 who knows how many of those uh those big boars, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.960 how many cubs they kill? Um and and all that 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:13.600 kind of stuff that goes down that you just you know, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.040 most people never never ever get to see. So they're 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.600 they're they're kind of want to edge. But even like 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.520 the big boar we did a stock on yesterday, you know, 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.560 everything went. I honestly thought you were at least going 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.640 to get a shot, you know, and perfect spot, perfect 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.600 uh ditch that we were in on the old logging road, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.960 and and for that thing to just kind of step out. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.520 And sometimes they don't do that either, by the way, 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.160 I mean, and look back and and and and see. 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.240 Let me tell a cameraman, you know, I'm like, are 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.600 you kidding me? Let's talk about that situation specifically. I've 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.639 got I've got two other stories from this week that 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.520 I want to talk about. But we saw this bear 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.520 from probably close to half mile away on our road. 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.320 We're driving down a logging road. See a bear kind 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.680 of through the trees, long before we saw the truck. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.600 There's a bear on the road. We say, Gary backs 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.760 the truck up. We get out of the truck wins, 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.000 hitting us dead in the face. Everything's perfect. Bears walking 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.800 down the road towards us. We closed the distance quickly. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:07.880 We couldn't even see the bear. I mean, so we're 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.639 moving as fast as we can walk, you know, And 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.480 we get to probably a hundred and fifty yards and 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.480 we see the bear and he's kind of in the 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.720 ditch and there's a there's a drain that there's a 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.159 low spot in the road with a culvert in between 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.320 us and the bear. Later we ranged it and we 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.879 were a hundred yards away from the bear. Jeff. He 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:30.919 was kind of off in the ditch, and I mean, 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.720 we're in the chips man. He doesn't see us. He's 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.160 got his head in the grass, winds in our face. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.040 We get two hundred yards and and so we got 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.560 brand as a caraman Gary there and they're in the ditch. 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.840 Gary's crouched. Brent has the camera up on a tripod, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.240 which that later we're learning we're gonna have to get lower. 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.280 But I mean, they were the least of my concerns 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.240 in terms of busting this bear. Well, when I left 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.960 out with them and dropped in this ditch, to bear 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.920 couldn't even see me. When I popped out of the ditch. 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.720 I was gonna be probably under fifty yards from the bear. 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.800 And I get down on the ditch and start coming 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:12.520 back up the other side, and I mean, just thinking 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.000 this is about to happen, and there they start calling 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.160 me off. I kind of peeked back around and there. 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:20.639 I don't know if they whistled at me or it 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.080 was just like, what what are we doing here? Guys? 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:29.000 And obviously you know the bear spooked he and they said, Gary, 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:30.840 what did he do? Well, I'll just look back at 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.560 us and and and you guys weren't moving. No. I 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.440 mean usually in that case that that shouldn't happen, but 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:37.919 it did. That's just the way it go was right, 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.320 look back at us and and um yeah, and just 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.480 realize something's not right, and then slowly walked off. And 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:45.840 then when you came back up, then we got to 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:47.840 watch it go into a cot and slow right down, 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:49.720 and you could even hear a wolf from the cot 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.879 a little bit right. And and the cool part of 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:53.520 that story is that the other group of guys we 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.280 told them to try to go after the bear, probably 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.320 the same bear, and they got three stocks on it. 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.879 For whatever reason. He's a big, big boar Um, he 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.840 just really jiggy for whatever reason, maybe he did the 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:04.639 same thing to these times. And they going on it 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.280 three times with a compound, you know what, thirty seven 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.440 forties something like all and the um and the hunter 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.399 was at full draw and the bear didn't eve give 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.399 him one second to shoot. Now that's kind of a 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.880 rare situation. I mean, for whatever reason, when the winds 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.520 in your face. But uh, because four street guys are 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.359 back there, it just goes to show you that what 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.240 what it taught me is that you just can't take 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.560 anything for granted. I mean, whatever animal you're stalking to, 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.840 you better put your as we say, the triple snake 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:36.200 on them, right, I mean, because you know what, like this, 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.800 I would be surprised if I see a bigger bear 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:41.959 than that one on this hunt, you know. I mean. 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.000 So it's like and not that we were taking it nonchalant, 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.960 because we weren't at all. But at the same time, 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:52.280 we just assumed that this wouldn't be a problem, and 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.200 it was, and so you know, I mean, it just 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.200 it just all all of us were like, well, we 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.320 should have done this, you know, we should have set 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.760 up behind the brush pile or you know, and I mean, 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:07.200 you just learned something. But and that wasn't the only 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.040 time that we spooked to bear by sight this week. 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:12.600 And obviously our situation is a little bit different because 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:16.040 we've got three guys, big camera and so I mean 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.639 we're a lot of sense. Typically on a well, if 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.359 your hunt in Canada, you gotta have a guide, if 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.160 you're an American hunting here, so I mean, usually there's 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:27.240 gonna be two guys. Um. But Gary, the first bear 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.120 that we saw this week, we were hunting. We walked 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.280 into a field. Man, the hunting here is incredible. The 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:36.359