1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Yo, it's a rap raid on podcast. My name is 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: beat I Elliott Wilson. How you feeling, man? Feeling good? 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Beat Out? How you feeling brother? 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: After that Steve Stout conversation, I feel like I can 5 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: run through a brick wall. 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: The commissioner Man word, I even know who Superstar Pride was? Man, 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 3: you put me up on game Man. 8 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: If you don't know, now you know? 9 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 4: Man shout out to the commissioner. 10 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: Steve style feels like you know we had we had 11 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: a classic episode with him back in the day for 12 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: people that know know the black and white era, like 13 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: the twenty what seventeen era, blah blah, But it was 14 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: dope to connect with him in the modern day and 15 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: like Calf him dropping his gems. Man shout out to Steve. 16 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: Man, legendary interview. Legendary guy. You know what I mean? 17 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: This guy's been around for twenty five years. Play go 18 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: yeah Man, manager of NAS and a whole bunch of others. 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: So you know, Steve Stout is Steve Stout. Steve Stoutman. 20 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: What can you say? 21 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: Every time I hear it was written, I think that 22 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: that's like the Stout album. You know, see it is 23 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: a big pay back to the Illmatic. It's like Yo 24 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: Stout got him with track Masters. It was written though 25 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: word you know, it's written with his new guy that 26 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: we got today. 27 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Man, not a new guy. 28 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: It's one of our guys. 29 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Man, come on, he is one of our guys. Betty 30 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: the Butcher. 31 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: Griselda Man, we came. You know, it's finally time. And 32 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: we've had the Griselda group as a crew all time. 33 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: Rap Radar our connection is so solidified. But you know, 34 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: last what was it last year? So we had Wesside 35 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: gun by himself and then he brought the crew. But 36 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: we did have gun by himself and then we had 37 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: Conway top of your solo dolo. 38 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: So it's only right man. I think it's Beny the 39 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: Butcher time. It absolutely has Beeny the Butcher time. But 40 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: you're coming. Butcher's here. Man. 41 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Everybody can't go. One of the best albums this year. 42 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: Whoa wait, hold up, hold on, let's take a moment. 43 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 4: Let's take what if Brian b do Miller say and 44 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: the man with. 45 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: The list you could take two moments. What did you say? 46 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: Let's let's take him back what you say about this album? 47 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Everybody can't go one of the best albums this year. 48 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: It's very very very good death him like that they delivered. 49 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Man, what can I say? Wow? The high praise, but 50 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: it's old deserve it, man, that standing on it. 51 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: Man, we've been We've been waiting for this for a 52 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: long time, and I feel like the fans are going 53 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: to definitely be pleasantly surprised with. 54 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: Benny about to be publiced. You know, hip Boy Alchemist production. 55 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: Now there's a lot of girlfriend album. I like it 56 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: a lot too, man. We got the privilege to have 57 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: a little early ye see peak of the record, like 58 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: it's there, man, Like it delivers. Man, it's been you know, 59 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: it's not been the greatest year in hip hop. So 60 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: I think that this Benny project is going to bring 61 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: a lot of excitement to the game. You know, he's 62 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: right now, he's got a little drama going on the internet. Man, 63 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: he's out here spawn with everybody. You know what I'm saying, 64 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: Like Benny Bet he's not afraid to tell you how 65 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: he feels out here. 66 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: Everybody can't critique, everybody can't go, everybody can't go. 67 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: But now we was like, we gotta come down to Atlanta. 68 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: We food just down here to how at Benny was like, 69 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: we ain't coming for the festivals and all that. We 70 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: ain't invited to that. We just came out here to 71 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: get this interview. Man Baby, the Butchers out here in 72 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: Atlanta was like, Yeah, we got to talk to our 73 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: guy knew album coming out, Death Jam. 74 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: It's only right. Man, is the rap radar. Let's do 75 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: it Man's tradition. Let's get into it. Eli, you're ready. 76 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm ready, Baby, Let's get into it, man Baby. The Butcher, 77 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Rap raid Doll Podcasts. Yeah, Yo, it's the Rap raid 78 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: All podcast. My name is beat I, Elliott Wilson, Ellieah. 79 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: We got the Butcher here, Benny solo baby, first. 80 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Time on the Rap Raido podcast. This is my first 81 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: solo interview. Yes it is, oh Man, progress is taking 82 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: place the rap radar. You can't get rid of us. 83 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: That's a fact. I remember my first one, all three 84 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: of us, you know what I'm saying. And I was 85 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: sitting there and had the fatigue cold on and ship. 86 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: I was nervous as a bitch. The lights was. 87 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: How's it feeling to be way richerd Now Bennie. 88 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: Here, knowing, knowing the place that it came from. It's satisfying. Man, 89 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: It's satisfying because all I set out to do. I'm 90 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 2: not gonna lie all a lot of what I set 91 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: out to do is to satisfy west Side Gunner Conway. 92 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Them boys brought me here. 93 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: I got to be able to bring shit back to 94 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: the table. I got to be able to say, like, 95 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: look what I did with the opportunity, because niggas be 96 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: fumbling the opportunity. So just know that I made good 97 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: on the opportunity. I love it. 98 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: So you felt that from Jump that you had to deliver, 99 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: Like you in a position of like attentions brought your way. 100 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: You're being recognized part of the family. It's like you 101 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: gotta deliver. 102 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: Hell yeah. Like I always say, when I came in, 103 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: these dudes was giants. You know what I'm saying. I 104 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: remember in twenty seventeen. Now mind you, we're just small 105 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: collective from Buffalo. In twenty seventeen, I remember Double XL 106 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: posted it's Conway the best rapper from New York, and 107 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, like I want them to say some 108 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: shit like that about me one day, you know what 109 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So just know that he was getting that 110 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: type of look. It was like, damn, I got my work. 111 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: I got my work cut out for you know what 112 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying, So hell yeah. 113 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: So I want to be one of the first we're 114 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: talking about the new album, everybody can't go. I wanted 115 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: to say, this is probably one. 116 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Of the best albums of the year. I'm going to 117 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: go on to that on the record and say that 118 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: congratulations and thank you, thank you. I put a lot 119 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: into it, a lot into it. See when I when 120 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: I first signed A Depth Jym, I thought, like four 121 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: months ago, I thought like, did I do the right thing? 122 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: Not by signing to him, but when I first signed, 123 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: I start relaxing. I wasn't in no rush to record 124 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: no album. I wasn't. I'm like, just let me get 125 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: my profile up a little bit, go to some industry parties. 126 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, back of R and B bitch, 127 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: do some shit like that, you know what I'm saying, 128 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: and then it's time to write the album. Let me 129 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: get in my space first. 130 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Because you're like one of the most prolific artists in 131 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: the game. So I was curious, like when did you 132 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: start focusing on this album? 133 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: And I start focusing on this album. Maybe maybe about 134 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: a year ago, I would say about a year ago. 135 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: And you know, you hear you hear a lot about 136 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: when you hear when you hear west Side Gunn say 137 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 2: all the time, like, Yo, I did this album in 138 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: two days. You know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, 139 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm not that guy. You know what I'm saying. I 140 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: got to live with it, especially when it's so much 141 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: rying on it. To me, it's a lot rying on it, 142 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So about a year ago. 143 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, a year ago, you also tweeted, I'm gonna have 144 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: the best hip hop death gym album since DMX. 145 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: It's dark and hell, it's time. I remember that and 146 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: stand on that ship. It was said that they did, 147 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: they did, and I stand on that. I stand on 148 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: that man. 149 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: You also said it's gonna be the most anticipated album 150 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: this shit. 151 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: Yo. The crazy thing about it is before I even 152 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: got to any before I was Griselda, before I was 153 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: even before I was even like doing any of this shit, 154 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: I always wanted my album to be called the most anticipated. 155 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: That's what I always wanted my album to be called 156 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: the most anticipated. And it's not called the most anticipated, 157 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: but it is the most anticipated, I feel. Uh, you know, 158 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: these dudes put out albums when nobody asking for him, 159 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: when nobody's waiting for him. So just have the people 160 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: and the culture and the genre waiting for my album. 161 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: Your where it's at. I could post a picture with 162 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: me hanging with my dog. They be like Nigga dropped 163 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: the album, you know what I'm saying. So see that 164 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: there at that point. I mean, I love it. It's 165 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: on the way. 166 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: It's definitely worth the way, man. And like the title suggests, 167 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: why can't everybody go? 168 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: I can't. Everybody can't go. Everybody can't go because you 169 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: know they they not cut like that, they not made 170 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: like that. And you can't dance to every song. You 171 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. This is for y'all out there. 172 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: You can't dance to every song. Everything is not for everybody. 173 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: And when new levels come, new devils in and I 174 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: want different, I want more, I want bigger for myself. 175 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: So this is this is the second cut, you know 176 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: what I mean? You know when you make that first cut, 177 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: when you when you can clearly see, okay, these people 178 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: are not for me. They don't need to be here. 179 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: So the people who made that, who got past that cut, 180 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: they think they safe the first round. Yeah, no, you're 181 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: not safe because everybody can't go. This is the next 182 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: level up. And what I mean by level up is 183 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean my way of thinking, of course, 184 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: my way of making music, my approach at this shit. 185 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: It's just just so many things that there's so many 186 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: things that I'm saying. What I mean, everybody can't go 187 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: because they can't. This shit ain't for everybody. 188 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: Man, Why do you think you want to land on 189 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: that message to be the message. 190 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: Around this album, because honestly, it's motherfuckers feel like they 191 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: can go. You know what I'm saying, Uh, Basically, I 192 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: want to. I want to. I want to. I want 193 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: to visually and sonically go into a space where people 194 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: know that he's a different guy right now. You know 195 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Okay, this is not the Benny the 196 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: butcher from him. You know what I'm saying. I want 197 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: to go into that place visually and sonically, and I 198 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: want people to know because it's exacts who slept on me. Uh, 199 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: it's artists who slept on me. It's a homeboys, friends 200 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: and family who slept on me. Uh, you know what 201 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean. This is this, this is my victory lap. 202 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Everybody can't go you know, 203 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: a nigga did this ship. Like I said, I come 204 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: under the under the umbrella of Griselda, Westside Gunna Conway, 205 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, Like theom dudes me 206 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: and everything to me, them dudes are giants to me. 207 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: So it's for me to you know, when I when 208 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: I came, when I came in this ship, nobody expected 209 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: me to to to to live up to it, you 210 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And I did it, you know 211 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,359 Speaker 2: what I mean, So exceed. 212 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, you know, just fit in, but took it 213 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: to another level. 214 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it, you know what I mean. Like 215 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: you hear the Westside Gun album, It's crazy. I love it. 216 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: I love his approach at it and you. 217 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: Wrap it over take Keith beat Man. We didn't expect 218 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: that exactly, wrap it. 219 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: Over to take Keith, you know what I'm saying. And 220 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: I love the way that he drives and pushed the 221 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 2: culture forward. And you know what I'm saying. You know, 222 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: Benny the Butcher was the first Grizelda artist rapping over 223 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: trap beats in twenty nineteen, and I've been doing that 224 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: and just to see that the whole Griselda's evolving. They're 225 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: just trying to do different things. That just lets me 226 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: know where we're at in time right now. You know 227 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that we came so far with 228 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: it that we're just trying to move the culture in 229 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: a different direction right now. What I'm saying, I. 230 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Love it, right And that's the one thing I love 231 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: about this album so much. 232 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: Like the production. 233 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: It sounds so polished, like you have hit boy on 234 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: the boards, and we also have alchemists, right. 235 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like al That's what I do. I fuse 236 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: my you know what I mean? My uh, I'm not 237 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: gonna say my faceavorite producers because you got Drreinger and 238 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: you got Harry Fraud, you got uh Rick Hide, and 239 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: you got JR. Swift the Conductor. You got so many 240 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: guys I love working with, but two of my favorite 241 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: producers that I've been most successful with. And now I'm 242 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: dropping my major debut, I'm gonna go get my dream team. 243 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, so to speak, this is 244 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: my dream team. I can't go wrong. I never went 245 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: wrong with al I never went wrong with hit boys. 246 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: So when it's time to do this shit for the masses, 247 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: click them boys up together, let's do this shit. 248 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw you posted a while ago you said no, 249 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: my album won't be loaded with boom bad beats. 250 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: I did that already. 251 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: Do you think like people had this preconceived notion of what. 252 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: The Benning the Butcher sound is. Yeah, and they're wrong. 253 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: They're they're wrong because I tell this all the time. Man. 254 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: You know, we jumped into this ship making this kind 255 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: of music because we were good at it and we 256 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: felt it and this was the the yellow brick road, 257 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But we can make all 258 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: kinds of music. It's just like UH being getting famous 259 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: for your three point shot, but nigga, I could dunk 260 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: the ball, you know what I'm saying, better than your 261 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: favorite who won championships. So it's about it's about just 262 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: UH doing doing what we feel, you know what I'm saying. 263 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: And like people think that when you're an artist, people 264 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: think that you're a jukebox. They press a button and 265 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: certain type of music comes out. No, it don't work 266 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: like that. Man. Music is a living thing and the 267 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: way we make music. We have to live. We have 268 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: to live our experiences. We have to go through things 269 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: and see things and feel things and pain, hurt joy 270 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: in order to come out with these records. Right, You 271 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying, And it's no telling how it's 272 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: gonna come out on the other end when you're doing 273 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: that out of feeling. You know what I'm saying. You 274 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: see this Nigga Litt Wayne has a rock album. You 275 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: feel me? You see what whole did this ship with 276 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: Blink one Ad two? You know what I'm saying. It's like, 277 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: you know, Link Park, Lincoln Park Off, fuck that up. 278 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: But I knew you was gonna know that. But it's like, 279 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: you know, you never know how this shit gonna come out, man, 280 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: when you're doing it, when you're doing it from emotion, 281 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: you never know how I was gonna end up. 282 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: What I mean, was it as seamless this time around 283 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: because you did burden the proof of hip Boy? 284 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: Was the chemistry as organic as it was previously? I 285 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: would say it was, man, I would say it was 286 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: this only this is the only thing because I'm a 287 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: little superstitious. It's the only thing I recorded. I recorded, 288 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: like a lot of my hit boy uh songs in Vegas. 289 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And I wasn't at Challice, 290 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm superstitious. I'm like, damn, 291 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: do I need to be at Challice? 292 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 4: But this studio exactly. 293 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: But it's like I didn't need to be. I just 294 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: needed his energy. I just need a hit boy in 295 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: a room. A lot of these records. I do these 296 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: records with the producers in the room. When you see 297 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: ten ten more crack commandments, danger is in the room. 298 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. When I'm doing these records, 299 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: these guys in a room, and it's like I need 300 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: that I need because they made to beat. You feel 301 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. They made to be. I need them 302 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: to tell me. It's like Benny stopp And had that 303 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: in mind when I made this beat. You're going in 304 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: a totally different direction. I need to hear that. They 305 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: never told me that, you know what I'm saying, But 306 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: if they, if they felt that way, they would tell me. 307 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: So I feel like somebody's sending you beat. You want 308 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: to feel like you're cooking up with the person. 309 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: I love the producer to beat himself to do his job. 310 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: I love the producer to come to me with an 311 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: idea already for the song. I love for the producer 312 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: to uh to tell me where he was thinking when 313 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: he made the beat, like what he had in mind 314 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: when he made this beat. That helps me. That helps 315 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: my vision. I can craft my idea around the song 316 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: and his idea. You know, I need that. 317 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: You mentioned Wayne got a big record called Big Dog 318 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: You and Little Wayne. It feels like, you know, also 319 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of care to you with like 320 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: the chorus and how you approached that song, like talk 321 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: about that record. 322 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: The Big Dog record is like I always felt like 323 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: I was an underdog, y'all know. Sometimes I beat it 324 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: in the ground. But you know, a nigga a big 325 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: dog now, you know what I'm saying. And just the 326 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: way the beat sound is just so melodicing, you know 327 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: what I mean? And with the hook. Let me tell you, man, 328 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: did he told me this? Did he told me? The 329 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: difference between Nas and Jay are the melodies? You know 330 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Not saying that one is better than 331 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: the other. He said, just the difference. And you take 332 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: from that what you take from that. And I took 333 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: certain things from that. I didn't want to. I didn't 334 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: want to be trying to rap people to death. I'm 335 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: been need the Butcher from Griselda. I feel like I've 336 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: done that already. You feel what I'm saying. If you're 337 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: a fan out there and you're looking like for me 338 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: to prove anything, I'm not saying that I'm the greatest, 339 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: but I am saying I am at the same time. 340 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: So it's like, if you're looking for me to prove 341 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: myself lyrical acrobatics and shit like that, I don't know 342 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: what to tell. You know what I'm saying. You know 343 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: what I do? You know what I do? You know 344 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: what I do? You know what I'm saying. Just enjoy 345 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: the music, man. It's a piece that we all can enjoy. 346 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: And that Big Dog song it's like fire that shit fire. 347 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: So it's so eclectic, you know what I mean. And 348 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: I have fun making that song. And Wayne is true 349 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: to his word. He said, any time I need him, 350 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: shout out mac mahone and shout out everybody over there. 351 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: But anytime I needed Bro, he came through for me. 352 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: This is the third collaboration you had, timeless Rushman. What 353 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: now this one? Now this one? And I'm on a 354 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: College Grove album, I'm a Mad album. You know what 355 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Got some heat on there. And the Butcher 356 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: that's a fact. That's a fact. 357 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: I like it because I feel like you bring the 358 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: best out of them every time you're on the collaboration. 359 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and and and I think and I think 360 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: that's that's one of my superpowers is I bring the 361 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: best out of a lot of artists, not even on 362 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: no competitive ship. I just think people are excited about 363 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: working with me, you know what I mean. And I 364 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: love that. And I love that that I got that energy. 365 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: So I think people are like, oh, that's the butcher. 366 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: I mean, let me give him one of those, because 367 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: let me give him that energy that he given, you 368 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I love that. 369 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: And you guys finally got the video to the pit 370 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: with Dobeman pictures. 371 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: Man. Listen, I got I got dogs myself. But it 372 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: was one scene. They had the dogs in the back 373 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: of the seat and the back seat with me and 374 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: the car and it was two of them and they 375 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: got the dogs ain't know each other, so they got 376 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: to going back and forth. They seen my face. They 377 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: was like, just get one of them dogs out. Of there. 378 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Please don't tell me like that. I'm just trying to 379 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: the video man, trying to get my ear chewed the 380 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: fuck off. Nothing but hell yeah that was crazy. 381 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: But you said like it was so tapping into the 382 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: melodic point. You said that puff was like, so Jay's 383 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: a little more melodic with certain things, Like what was 384 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: the approach there. 385 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: That you I feel? I feel I feel that he 386 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: meant that. I feel that he meant who was uh 387 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: more melodic? And I felt I didn't really want to 388 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: lose people by trying to be too too rappy what 389 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I wanted to connect with people in a 390 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: different way with maybe the melodies and and the things 391 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: that I was saying without jumbling a bunch of things together, 392 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: leaving points in the music where they got time to 393 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: think about what I said and time to digest it, 394 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So definitely this. 395 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: Is a challenge when you're right like that, or is 396 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: it still feels natural just. 397 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: Like easier, you know what I'm saying. It's actually easier 398 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: because I'm getting on the mic and I'm trying to 399 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: prove a point. I'm trying to rhyme words, I'm trying 400 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: to catch pockets and everything like that. And when I'm 401 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: writing like this, I'm just letting it flow. I'm just 402 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: letting it fig exactly, just letting the flum, just saying 403 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: what's on my mind and saying what I feel and 404 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: not trying to create a punchline or not trying to 405 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: create a wild factor with a bar. I'm just saying 406 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: what's on my mind and just letting it flow out. 407 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 2: It's easier like that. 408 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: That was what I think was so impressive with this 409 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: album was like the different flows in the pockets that 410 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: were using. I think one song in particular, back again 411 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: with Snoop Dogg. Man, I remember you played that for 412 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: me months ago, right, and it has like this West 413 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: Coast field. 414 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: I didn't even know Hip Boy did it at the time. 415 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: But the flow, especially on the second verse, it's like 416 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: you're walking down the beat. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Like 417 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: did Stoop av pointers on that or did you just 418 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: come up with that flow by yourself? 419 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: I just came up with that. And that's another thing. 420 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: And man, it's sure man, cold cold world. Man. That nigga. 421 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: That nigga like basically like coached me on a lot 422 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: of shit on this album. Really he let me know that. 423 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: He was basically like the pockets. He was like, find 424 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: the pockets, he said, people love the pockets. And basically 425 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: that's what I try to do, and I try to 426 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: switch the flow up. I try to have like different 427 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 2: flows and different songs and different moves, and I feel 428 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: people gonna appreciate that. But you know what I'm saying, 429 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: I definitely got that piece of advice from Bro. 430 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: So how important was that? Johnny Peace Caddy? 431 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: Right, that's the record breaking for Griselda, first gold record 432 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: for the brand. Definitely like speak about that, Like how 433 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: important was that? And like the lessons you learned from that? 434 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: Man? The lesson I learned. The lesson I learned is 435 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 2: is do what you feel. And that's why I can 436 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: go into this album comfortable with this album coming out. 437 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: I could be comfortable with it because I just did 438 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: what I feel. And and trust me, everybody around me 439 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: felt good about that record before we even sent it 440 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: to Cold they felt good about that record. And by 441 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: the time Cole got on it, you know what it 442 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: just did. It just shot the record through the roof 443 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 2: and how we felt about it before we even let 444 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: the world here the record. So I was basically I 445 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: was basically just taken from that, like, damn, just do 446 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: what you just do your shit. You know, we come 447 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: from recording the bathroom right, re recorded record in the 448 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: bathroom back in the day where the booth was at 449 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: and then maybe somebody else could get on the record, 450 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: no hook and no nothing to see that we earned 451 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: a gold plaque like that, you know what I'm saying. 452 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: It's crazy because I always thought, like, man, you know, 453 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: when we get when we get higher up in the game, 454 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to start changing the shit. We don't 455 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: have to start putting hooks on these records, you know 456 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But that went just the way it went, 457 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: Like we're on the take Heath beat, just on West 458 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: Side album, just rapping, no hook, one after another, and 459 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: that is our formula, you know what I'm saying. That's 460 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: our formula, doing what we're comfortable doing. You could put 461 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: a hook on it, you you don't have to. But 462 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: getting that gold plaque over an Alchemist's beat, over a 463 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: beat with no hook and just rapping, and that just 464 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: showed me, man, you could really do what you want 465 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: and be comfortable in your own lane. And I have 466 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: to and I have to be a dancing bear for 467 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: these people. You know what I'm saying. Real shit, where 468 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: were you? Ain't got the news that the gold plaque? Yeah, 469 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: I think it was at home. I got a call 470 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: from Al. You know Al never calls. Al never called, 471 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: and man, I know he always up in the morning, 472 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: and shit, he was like, yeah, you know, we about 473 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: to get a plaque for that. We about to get 474 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: a plaque for that. You're like, yeah, you know what 475 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: I mean. I get on the I get on the 476 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Billboard website and I don't see it. But he must 477 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: know because it extremes so much every day, they must know, like, okay, 478 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: by seven days, this is going to be some So 479 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: about a week later and I was telling people I 480 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: posted it. You know, my lawyer called me. He called 481 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: me being a negative Nancy. It's like, I looked it up. 482 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't see it. I'm like, man, it's going to 483 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: be there, be there, you know what I'm saying. But 484 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: I felt good, man, like I said, just to be 485 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: able to hand that to Westside Gun after the opportunity 486 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: that he handed me. And that's all you can ask for, man, 487 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: in this business where you're presented an opportunity that could 488 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: go to up somebody else. You know what I'm saying, 489 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: somebody maybe would have got a platinum album or whatever. 490 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: But to be able to bring something to the table 491 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: to these guys who who set this platform for me, 492 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: that means everything, something tangible exactly, that means everything to me, 493 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 494 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: So and he took that everywhere man, and he brought 495 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: it to the cemetery. 496 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: Dead man. He took my mom and and my mom 497 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: went and I was dope. And that was dope because 498 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, Me and Westside Gunn, 499 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: we handle my brother's passing away different. You feel what 500 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like he he he kind of like 501 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, rejoices and celebrates it. And I know my brother, 502 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: his family and his kids love that. But it's hard 503 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: for me to do that. Sometimes it's hard for me 504 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: to speak his name, you know what I'm saying, because 505 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: it takes me back to a place that I don't 506 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: necessarily want to go. So a lot of times I 507 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: get to celebrate my brother through the love west shows, 508 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Because a lot of things 509 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: that I'm not strong enough to do. You know what 510 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying, It's like a lot of shit that I'm 511 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: not you know what I mean. So I lived through 512 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: West with a lot of that, you know what I mean. 513 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: Like me, how he went back to the grave site, 514 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: it was like a celebratory moment. He was with my mom. 515 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: Like me going to the gravesite with my mom. I 516 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: wasn't able to be I wasn't able to be there 517 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: at the funeral to hold her down. So it would 518 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: have been like all of that all over again for me, 519 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Because I've been to the 520 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: grave site, but I haven't been with her, so that 521 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: would have conjured up so many feelings and so many 522 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: emotions that sometimes I just stay away from that shit. 523 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: And I just I mean, I lived through my brother, 524 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: through a son, you know what I'm saying, that's his twin, 525 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: through his daughters, and you know, just through old memories 526 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: we shared. But man definitely appreciate we's holding it down. 527 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: And I'm happy he got the plaque. Take the plaque 528 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 2: on tour everywhere, the Black Up Tour. 529 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: On the first song of Germans Graduation, you said, like how. 530 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: To clean up the rumors? 531 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, about you gun and contract. Why was that important 532 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: to get big free? 533 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because because you know, people see us and being like, yo, 534 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: it's Griselda broke up or you're not on Griselda's. Like 535 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: the best case scenario happen, you know what I'm saying. 536 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: Where I delivered four projects, four albums took Griselda. One 537 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: of them earned a plaque. One of those are what 538 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: What She Ain't Gonna Do? One of those are Burden Approof. 539 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: One of those are Tanne Talk three, Tannet Talk four. 540 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: I handed, I got an impressive catalog over at Griselda 541 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: and then decided to go and be a boss like 542 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: I was showed by my big cousin. You know what 543 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying, It's nothing to be like damn, he not 544 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: over there anymore. You know people look at it that way. 545 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why. So just because you know Conway 546 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: started drum work. That is the best case scenario. You know, 547 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: when the Patriots dynasty run, all of those head coaches 548 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: and quarterback coaches, they went over to get good jobs, 549 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: better paying jobs at different organizations. Though, you know what 550 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying, and I'm pretty sure they all come and 551 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: reminisce over their championship run. That's all of it. That's 552 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: all this is, man. It's a dynasty that we lived through, 553 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: that we helped creating. And I just want people to know. 554 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: It's like, Man, we ain't got no you know what's 555 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 2: happy for me? You know what I'm saying. Contwait, happy 556 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: for me? I'm happy for them dudes. Man, that just 557 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: I mean, we can never split up. I've seen we 558 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: said that in a different interviews, like we might be 559 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: doing other things, but we can never break up. That 560 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 2: shit don't even make no sense, you know what I'm saying. 561 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: Right, It's been a busy year for you though, Bessef 562 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: the Black Sopranos Family. 563 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, man, I executive produced a whole bunch of 564 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: albums and got my feet up under me. I don't 565 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: want to thank my whole staff, because that's what it's 566 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: really about. When you putting out these records, after these records, 567 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: after you get out the booth, Like is who's going 568 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: to push these records? Who's going to see to it 569 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: that these records is getting put out officially? Keeping up 570 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: with the dates? Man, that's all the staff, a whole 571 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: bunch of people who don't rap and allowed us to 572 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: have a good year. Man, real, you give a roll 573 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: co who's officially and besself? Oh yeah, yeah, where you 574 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: got Rigatte, Yes, you got hem, you got a fuigle Bass, 575 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: you got su le A, you got Malik Flames. You 576 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Flames, that my league flames, and 577 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 2: that Nigga's crazy. He's crazying. You know, I told you 578 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: we just finished his deal. Yes, congratulations, brother, my palm 579 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: is together. I can't wait, Heroin that Nigga's crazy. For Rochester, 580 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: New York. I got ari Ari Almighty from Rochester, New York, 581 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: the first female This is my first time even announcing 582 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: I signed her, the first female artist on BSF. El Camino, 583 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: el Camino, Definitely, I'm trying to think definitely El Camino. 584 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: You know, El Camino been down and been part of 585 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: the team for a while. But we officially did his 586 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: deal and then he officially put out his first BESSEF 587 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: release about two weeks ago, and that was just his 588 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: best release ever. What I'm saying that those hits out 589 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: of his those words out of his mouth, like, Yo, 590 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: this is my best release ever. And I didn't think 591 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: that because you know, he got releases and anything. So 592 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: just lett him know, nigga, we got to stick together, nigga, 593 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And uh, who else? Man? 594 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: My nigga Bundy over there. You know what I'm saying, 595 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: Bundy Bush, this is my homeboy. We was in prison together, 596 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: right and he the first person I told him out 597 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: when I started being seth. He's been a guy who 598 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: pushing me, pushing me, pushing me when I wanted to 599 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: give up and shit. So I mean, that's my nigga 600 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 2: over there. You know, City Boy, Harlem, Cat, Jake, those 601 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: that's the staff man, whole bunch of guys man who 602 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: just you wouldn't see Benny the Butcher without them, you 603 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 604 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: Going back to death JM. Though, for a second I 605 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: remember talking. 606 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: We were talking to Snoopause was like, you know, we 607 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: hear those rumors about you was going to death Jam. 608 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 3: He was lingering blah blah, and at a certain point 609 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: it felt like, well, Snoop Dogg just stepped in and 610 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: made it happen. 611 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,239 Speaker 4: He speak to that, like, how did the whole death 612 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: JM deal finally come together? 613 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: Man? Just by Snoop get me on the phone with Jeff. 614 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know, there's no secret, Dad, 615 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: I was looking for a certain number before I jumped 616 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: to the major side because if it wasn't if the 617 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: number wasn't right, it didn't make no sense to me 618 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: and my family. We was kind of stuck on the 619 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: number for a minute. Then you know, Snoop really got 620 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: me on the phone with Jeff Houston. You know what 621 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm saying, He really done that. You know what I mean, Man, 622 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: the dog ain't have to do that. We all know that. 623 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm from the East coast, 624 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: he from the West coast. And he didn't get nothing 625 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: out of it. Ain't like he was getting ten percent 626 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: of the money. Ain't like he was getting nothing. He 627 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: just did it because he wanted to do it for me. 628 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: So I appreciate the dog for that. But that's all 629 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: it was. Man. I wanted to be I wanted to 630 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: feel safe for the number because me being a successful 631 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: independent artist, I wanted to feel like this label wanted 632 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: me here. You know what I mean. It's different, like 633 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: you know, you know you earned it exactly. It's easy 634 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: to say, Yo, we want you here, let's do this. 635 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: You do this they show it right the check let 636 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: the check reflect That's some new shit right there, check 637 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 2: reflect you know what I'm saying. So and they did that, 638 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: and you could you can't ask for more. You know, 639 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: we're already a well oil machine. I come from under 640 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: the Griselda cloth, so I know how to take care 641 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: of my own business. But you know, just adding a 642 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: machine to that, and the check reflecting was a big part. Man. 643 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 2: Shout out Snoop, Shout out everybody at Depth, Jamm and 644 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 2: Archie Naim, Charlene Man Tungee of course, and then everybody 645 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: else over there who I'm forgetting. Man, it's been it's 646 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: been dope for me. 647 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: So what does that mean to be like a death 648 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: jam artist in twenty twenty three, twenty four in your mind? 649 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: To me, it means that, you know, for one, it's 650 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: the fiftieth anniversary of hip hop. That means hip hop 651 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: is still live flowing, you know what I'm saying. Where 652 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: label like dev Cham who started this shit is coming 653 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: to back, is coming back signing a guy who made 654 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: his bones in the underground, Not the guy who was 655 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: on fire on the internet, not the guy who had 656 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: the viral single. No, a guy who who set his 657 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 2: tone and made his bones in the underground is linking 658 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: with the greatest hip hop label of all time. You 659 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That should be inspirational to every 660 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: fucking artist in the game, you know what I mean. 661 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: Right, One of my favorite songs in the album how 662 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 1: to Rap and kind of talk with details the trajectory 663 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: of your of stardom. Right, and you say you built 664 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: your shit ciphering. 665 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: You could talk about those early days. Oh yeah, you know, 666 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm come from the era where it be fuck the booth, 667 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: like you're you're not making it. You're not making it 668 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: to the booth. If we haven't seen your work in 669 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 2: Cipher's you feel what I'm saying on the street. So 670 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 2: it's like you're not you know what I mean. Like 671 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: a lot of time you hear these guys, you hear 672 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: them over a record, Like I didn't have that liberty. 673 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: So I built my name Ciphering. And you already know, 674 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: like you you you have to be on your shit 675 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: even to make it in a cipher. So it's letting 676 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: people know, like I'm busy the Butcher and my nigga, 677 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: like I built my shit on them street corners, in 678 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: them parks in them prison yards, ciphering with no beat. 679 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: A nigga might be beating on his chest. A nigga 680 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: might be beat boxing, you understand. And I'm and it's 681 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: straight from my mom to everybody's ears who's standing around 682 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: in that circle. And I was impressing people then, and 683 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: that's where I got That's where I got the confidence 684 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: up to to want to go further with my That's 685 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: when I know I had a career when the oohs 686 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: and ohs, the constant oohs and aahs, is like, you know, 687 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: I might be on something, but definitely I built my 688 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: shit up ciphering on that corner Montann in Genesee. I 689 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: remember I used to be standing on the corner hustling, 690 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: and then you know, every once in a while somebody 691 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: I know who rap walked past and we spiring, and 692 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: we spiring. You know what I'm saying, real shit. So 693 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: I love them days that that helped me to do 694 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: what I do now. I love that song. 695 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: It feels like a step by step booklet really to 696 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: get your ship on track? 697 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: Right, that's that's that's a good record, right, hear that record? 698 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: That's a good record. You know what I mean, like, 699 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: these dudes just gotta listen. They gotta listen, right, You're 700 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: getting real creative. Man. 701 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: I was listening. Another person that's been listening, Lebron James 702 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: is big fan. You have a song dedicated to Lebron 703 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: called Braun your Game of his own theme song. I did, 704 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: I did, And I've been said to Lebron months ago. 705 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: He been had that record. Dope record. 706 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: Man. The first name of the record was Championship Conditions, 707 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: but I'm like, man, let's just call it Bron. Uh, 708 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: you know, just just getting to my championship ways. It's 709 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: basketball season, you know. Uh, being a champion as an 710 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: attitude to me. They're like like like a guy like 711 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: Allen Iverson who hasn't won a ring, but clearly he's 712 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: a champion, you know what I'm saying, and everybody eyes 713 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: So it's like it's an attitude, and I just wanted 714 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: to bring my winning attitude to that record to let 715 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: everybody know what I'm on. Like, like I spoke earlier, 716 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: like this is the Griselda dynasty. You feel I'm saying 717 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: that I'm a part of it. Championship Conditions. What I say, 718 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: I said, I moved my bricks and my family to 719 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: a place where it's warm, like he did when he 720 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: left Cleveland, he went to Miami. You know what I'm saying, 721 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: real shit, So definitely, Man, what was his feedback on 722 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: the song? Man? He fuck with it? He fuck with it? 723 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: What I want? What I want him to do? I 724 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: want him I want the song to motivate him. I 725 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: want that to be a record where he might listen 726 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: to it on his way to play ball. I'm saying, 727 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: I remember last time bron played my Ship, he dropped like. 728 00:31:50,880 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 5: Fifty That's all I'm saying. 729 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: Which song was that? Man? I can't remember, but he 730 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: went viral posting it was it Johnny Peace Caddy? It 731 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: could have been Johnny Peace Caddy. Man could have been 732 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: Johnny Peace Caddy. I think it was. Man. Where'd you 733 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: put the plaque in jelly Caddy? What's that at? Your 734 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: sitting right up over the fireplace? You know, the fireplace 735 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: is the most heralded spot in the house. That's the 736 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: place like nothing nothing goes there. You got to have 737 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: a picture of Grandma, Big Mamo and family. I probably 738 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: even took the family photo down the plack up there, 739 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: like let this let this go there? You know, what 740 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I was just looking at it the other day, 741 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 2: like fucking plaque in my house. Dad didn't steal it. 742 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: I gotta get him his own. I gotta get him 743 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: his own. When they brought it to me, and and 744 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: they brought me to and then I was keeping one, 745 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: and I was like, I got to keep this other 746 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: one for West and his head. He gave me that 747 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: look like what I'm Johnny p the record, So, Dad, 748 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: your plaque is on the way. I'm getting it cooked 749 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: up for you. Pops. 750 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: So you said where you minisesoungbout your dad, your wife, 751 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: everybody like family members in your catalog. 752 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: You're so proud of that, right, yeah, definitely. Man Like 753 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: Germany's graduation. Whenever I named a song after a family 754 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: member is always do well. The first time was name 755 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: the intro to Tanner Talk three Babs. That's my mom's name. 756 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: Oh uh, India, that's my wife name. You know what 757 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm saying, American graduations. Yeah, I appreciate you appreciation, yes, sir, Yes, 758 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. She put a ring on it, 759 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: hey yeah yeah, and then uh, Johnny Peace Caddy. You 760 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's self explanatory what that record did. 761 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: So I thought it was only right man, to you know, 762 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: my daughter, she been there with me every part of 763 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: my career and going through the ups and downs with me. 764 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: Are traveling and not be able to make birthdays and 765 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: not be able to make events and doctor's appointments. So 766 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: she sacrificed a lot for me to be here. So 767 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: I named this intro after her Germany's graduation. You know 768 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You all speak about Cole, he said. 769 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 4: Cole's like one of the most genuine in the game. 770 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: He is. Man, if you ask me, a lot of 771 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: things that he do that he don't have to do it. 772 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: I know, we can say that about a lot of people, 773 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: but he take it. Seems to me like he take 774 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: interest in things like that. And that's the difference. He 775 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: realizes his responsibility of him being the top guy. And 776 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 2: make no mistake, he's the top guy. Cole is the 777 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: top fucking guy in his shit right now, you know 778 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And for him to understand this responsibility, 779 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: just say a lot about him because a lot of 780 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 2: these dudes don't. Man, you know what I mean. At 781 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: a lot of these dudes, A lot of these rat 782 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: niggas use their platform to flirt with these bitches, to 783 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: flirt with these female artists. You feel I'm saying. You know, 784 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: they use they use who they are to you know, 785 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: to slither and slime, you know what I'm saying, and 786 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: to be a nigga, you know what I'm saying, which 787 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: is all good because you know, they worked hard to 788 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: do what they want to do. But they're not worried 789 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: about pushing the culture forward. They not worried about it. 790 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: They're not worried about like like, how can I do 791 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: this without getting nothing out of it? Which just for 792 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 2: the soul of sake of seeing that person there, that's 793 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: my responsibility as a person in his game. You know 794 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: they don't. They don't take the responsibility serious. So a 795 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: guy like him who takes responsibility serious, you got to 796 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: commit that. 797 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: You've been under fire lately of the Internet taking a 798 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: stance against like he said, overly critiquing stuff. Yeah, and 799 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: things like that, like he speak to that. 800 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: I'm happy he brought that up, man, because I get 801 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: so maybe I'll give it too too much energy, but 802 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: I get sick of all of these guys just weaponizing 803 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: their opinion. Uh, first and foremost the same artists that 804 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: these dudes dick fucking ride all fucking day. When them 805 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: dudes become too successful, now they don't like them. When 806 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: it was okay, when it was okay for y'all to 807 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: it was okay for y'all to try to like throw 808 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: like like when when when when Meek and Drake was 809 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: going through their ship, everybody Drake this, Drake, that Drake this. 810 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Now that he's winning, he 811 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: overly won the ship, he won, he collected everything, and 812 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: not a chip in the casino left. Now they' mad 813 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 2: at the man like no ya yeah, you know what 814 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean. No, don't switch it up now. Same thing 815 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: with yay Uh. You see how everybody was going on. 816 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: They I hate yay shit man. Man, people big that 817 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: man head up like that to have him feeling like 818 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: he was that person. I'm not saying that he's not. 819 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: But a lot of this come from the fans. And 820 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: I heard the rappers say the other day, but the 821 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 2: fans told me this, So the fan, man, don't say 822 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: what the fucking fans told you, because that shit don't count, 823 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And these same fans who 824 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: get on here and then try to a bigger artist 825 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: up or a critiqua nigga. Like, somebody try to say 826 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: something to me today, Nigga, my DM telling me to 827 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: humble myself. Man, this dude, you look in our in 828 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: our history. This dude never reposted nothing, go on his page, 829 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: He never posted nothing, He never bought a shirt of nothing, 830 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: but telling me to humble myself. I'm not taking no 831 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: fucking advice from nobody who never supported me. Man. So 832 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: I think like one hundred thousand songs get loaded to 833 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: Spotify every fucking day, every day, and that's just Spotify. 834 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: You understand what we know. Who knows about YouTube and 835 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 2: all of this other shit. I think a lot of 836 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: the a lot of the fan supporter spectators want to 837 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: be in the artist shoes. So it's not like you're 838 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: critiquing your artists. You're critiquing your competition. You're trying to 839 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: think about what I would have said if I was 840 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: on that song, but why I would have did if 841 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: I was performing at No, No, nigga, sit back, shut 842 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 2: the fuck up, and enjoy it. I heard I heard 843 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 2: Ryan Daniels say, uh, you know, guys rappers brag too much, 844 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: and I got people feeling a certain way, and you know, 845 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: I kind of I don't. I don't feel like that 846 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: one hundred percent because when I hear when I hear 847 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: the artists talk about some shit, you know, like like 848 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: number one stunner, bird Man shit. You know that's my 849 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 2: new ship. You know what I'm saying. I bought me 850 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollar car and that's what I listened 851 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: to Nigga number one stunner, you know what I'm saying. 852 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: So so it's like some people get motivated off of that. 853 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: I give you it too, exactly. So when you when 854 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: you hate on that, like you choose to take that stand, 855 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: you choose not to be motivated by that. So when 856 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: guys choose not to be motivated by that, you know, 857 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: I just don't like it. Listen to the music, like 858 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: we're the professionals, you know what I mean, Like we 859 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: love basketball, but I really can't be telling telling these 860 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: guys who are telling Josh Allen what the fuck to do? 861 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: Every Sunday. I could sit back and I can enjoy 862 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: the game, win a loss, that's it. I came like, man, 863 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, he should have passed the ball I don't 864 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: know what's going on, what defensive lineman was bringing down 865 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: his neck, but to tackle him or how his wrisk 866 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 2: feeling what he was doing, I can't. I can't talk 867 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: about that shit. So I think they should. They should. 868 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: People think they're professionals, man, and they're not. Man. So 869 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: sit back and enjoy the music. Don't don't be so 870 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: ready to critique the shit for the sake of critiquing it. 871 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: For the sake of critiquing it. If it was good, 872 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: they wouldn't. They wouldn't go in there and say it's good, 873 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: but then go in there and say it's bad. You 874 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You can't do that. You got 875 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: to play both sides of the fence. So I just 876 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people need it neither to 877 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: put more respect on the craft. It's not it's not 878 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 2: a lot of respect on being a rapper right now, 879 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So a lot of people 880 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 2: who don't know me, they see me, they see me 881 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: moving certain We're like, yo, you're a rapper, And I'm like, yeah, damn, 882 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 2: yeah I am. You know what I'm saying. And that's 883 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 2: not good man. You know, rap gave me a lot. 884 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: I should be able to want to say that loud 885 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 2: and proud, but you know, people try to hate on that, 886 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like a lot of these podcasts, 887 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: a lot of these a lot of these influencers, a 888 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 2: lot of these characters or whatever they called h they 889 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: criticized rap. They got hold everything platforms to criticize rap, 890 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: and a bad way though of course you're gonna criticize it. 891 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 2: It's not for him, but in the bad way. Man rappers, 892 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 2: this rappers, that rappers, this rappers. That shitting on a rapper. 893 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 2: I hate that because almost we are almost the bar 894 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 2: for how people live their lives. You hear somebody say 895 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 2: like man, ship, like I got Richard and Richard than rappers? 896 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: Like what you want to be richer than a rapper? 897 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: For man, every rapper ain't rich I'm here to tell you. 898 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 2: I mean that that that's be richer than be richer 899 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 2: than every every person who went number one in the 900 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 2: NFL draft. Do that? Like people want to compare themselves 901 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 2: to rappers so bad. It's like people love us so 902 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: much they fucking hate us. They love us so much, 903 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 2: they hate us, man, they can't stand this ship and 904 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: a lot of times, the the critique and all of 905 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: that ship comes from people who want to do this. 906 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 2: They want to get people. 907 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 4: People don't want to be rappers in your dms. 908 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: And people look up like, yo, yo, Benny, that last 909 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,959 Speaker 2: ship you dropped, it wasn't it. I go look click 910 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 2: on this page and he have a Spotify link, and 911 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, that's what it is. That's what it is. 912 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 2: That's what it is. So you know, I get it. 913 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 2: But I just feel like, man, the culture did so 914 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 2: much for us, and it's so and it's responsible for 915 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: so much good as that. Man, we we we in 916 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: a way. Man, we have to. We have to. We 917 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 2: have to be careful and responsible of the things we 918 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: say and how we motivate our brothers. Man, I heard 919 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 2: someone I forgot who say this, but I said the 920 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 2: same thing. It's like, I never judge the music. I 921 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: judge the quality. Who the fuck am out of? If 922 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 2: a dude get on there saying his ABC's on a record, 923 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 2: who the fuck am I out of? Judge that. We've 924 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 2: seen records like that sell a lot of records. We've 925 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: seen a lot of records we thought was bullshit to 926 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 2: sell a lot of records. So the Who the fuck 927 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 2: am I? And I'm a rapper too, so who the 928 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 2: fuck am I to be critiquing that shit? Long as 929 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 2: you went in there, I'm critiquing your effort. If you 930 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 2: went in there, if I feel like you could have 931 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: said your ABC's better that shit trash, get back in 932 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: there and do that over, So I critique the effort. 933 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: I don't really critique the outcome because I would look, 934 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 2: there have egg on my face. If Love Nigga come 935 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 2: out and sell twenty million records and all the fans 936 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 2: going crazy, that don't make it good. But that gives 937 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 2: him an excuse. You Like, see what I said, Benny Nigga, 938 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: Fuck you talking about your opinion on me, and shit, 939 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do that. 940 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 4: So but she's not afraid to say it, and then 941 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 4: the Internet goes crazy. 942 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 2: It's like you're telling, oh, I'm definitely not afraid that 943 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: the Internet doesn't make believe place. The Internet isn't real. 944 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 2: The Internet isn't real, man. It's like, I'm never afraid 945 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 2: to speak my opinion on the Internet because every today 946 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 2: everybody can hate me, and tomorrow they all love me. 947 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 2: You know what, I'm saying, it's so many with this album. 948 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 2: When they get this album, they're gonna love it. Man, 949 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: they be back talking again. You know what I'm saying, 950 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: Are you open to constructive very very much? So? When 951 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 2: it's when it's when it's when I take it as 952 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 2: real criticism, Like I said, when I feel like it's 953 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 2: a weaponized opinion, I'm not with it. You can't tell 954 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: me you don't fuck with my ship if you never 955 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: supported my ship. M M, I'm not making it for you. 956 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 2: I hope you don't fuck with it. If a person, 957 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 2: if a person who been who could show me, like yo, 958 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: that last show you did, I really wasn't feeling that 959 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: you wasn't giving the energy. I've been to this show, 960 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 2: I've been to that show. When I've been at that show, 961 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 2: it's like, damn, I gotta deliver for this nigga. Now, 962 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 2: damn the gotta give him a free get to my 963 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 2: next show so I could prove to him that I 964 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 2: still got it. But when you never supported me and 965 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: you're saying what I need to do, what I'm like, 966 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 2: I don't. Man, I'm not trying to buy your supporter, 967 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: earn your support. I'm building up the people who already 968 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 2: support me, because those are the people are going to 969 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: convince you. I'm not going to convince you. The niggas 970 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: will tell you, Like I'm telling you this new Benny 971 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 2: the Butcher album is it, he's going to convince you. 972 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 2: I did all a rap and I could do shout 973 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: all the videos and did everything I could do. My 974 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 2: dog My fans and supporters are going to say, like, nigga, 975 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 2: you ain't hear this record. Yeah, you slept on this. 976 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 2: They're going to so I try to cater to them more, 977 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: the supporters and the people there. You know what I'm saying. 978 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 2: Why you got some constructive criticism for me? Nah? Yo, 979 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: b you be under fire too because you know what 980 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just me on your record. No, I 981 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 2: did coway, I beat you up on the I baged 982 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: you up on the record. 983 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: No, but I mean for this album, I have no 984 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: real criticism. 985 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 2: No, but you're different. To be honest with you, I 986 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 2: feel like you're different and people going to take your 987 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 2: opinion higher because you be that because it means something. Mhm, 988 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: it means something because you support it. Guys. You know 989 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So when it's like it was like 990 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 2: I liked it this I'm telling you, I like, I 991 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: really don't know so much. It's like, you know, this 992 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 2: guy showed his support before, so if if if you 993 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: feel some type of way about it, that's just how 994 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: he genuinely feel. And of course we're men, we're human 995 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 2: and we're grown, so of course we might take it hard. 996 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: But we're going to go back in that booth and remember. 997 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 3: That did when they said the big free they say, 998 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 3: gun you Conway, you're not afraid to say about it. 999 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 3: Call it out if it's like critical against y'all and 1000 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 3: say something about it. It's like, why do you think 1001 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 3: y'all are that same sort of drive of like we're 1002 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 3: gonna say, we're gonna bring into the conversation. We're not 1003 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 3: just gonna take it quietly like we're gonna respond to 1004 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 3: that in real. 1005 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 2: Time because I feel like a lot of people, a 1006 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 2: lot of people have given us our flowers, but a 1007 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 2: lot of people hasn't. And I'm saying people who hasn't, 1008 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: it's quick to criticize us. Like I said, we don't 1009 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 2: want to hear that ship. You know, like a person 1010 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: like Wes, the things that he's done for this culture 1011 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 2: definitely should be celebrated, and I feel like he's celebrated 1012 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: the things that a guy like Yay done for this 1013 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: culture should be celebrated. And it's like Drake, what he 1014 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: done should be celebrated. It's like sometimes the dudes make 1015 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: a fuck up, people be celebrate there like a ah, 1016 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 2: not seeing if they if they fucked up, if they 1017 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 2: go on to do something that that we don't that 1018 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 2: we don't feel as right exactly exactly see see my 1019 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 2: thing about it is that's why he. 1020 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 3: Said something with for all the dogs right, you felt 1021 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: like it was the one way thing of like tear 1022 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 3: this man down. 1023 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: I think so just because he's been winning so much, 1024 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 2: just because he'd been winning so much. You know. My 1025 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 2: take on a on a on an album is that 1026 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: that's what I expect from him. I expect from him. 1027 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 2: He's not interested in in giving people to the bars 1028 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 2: how we feel he should. Because he felt like he 1029 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 2: felt like what has that guy him? I can't speak 1030 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: for him, but personally like what has that got me? Like? Nigga, 1031 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 2: y'all see all these white women who fucking love me, 1032 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 2: y'a don't see what's going on? And that's important to 1033 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 2: him and the thing about it is man as a rapper. 1034 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 2: I really don't knock these artists for that because the 1035 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: game is unforgiven what I'm saying, These these these people, 1036 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 2: these supporters, and they have way and these rappers, these 1037 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 2: rappers will try to uh will try to have you 1038 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 2: sharpen their sword so they could stab you with it, 1039 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So he's careful about like 1040 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 2: he talked all the time about how he helped rap 1041 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 2: niggas out and shit like that, you know what I'm saying. 1042 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 2: And he has and maybe a few of them has 1043 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 2: to try to go on and use a status that 1044 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: they helped give to him that he helped give them 1045 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: and try to act like they bigger than him. Like 1046 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 2: you never going to hear me saying nothing about crazy 1047 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 2: about Cole. You're never going to hear me saying nothing 1048 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 2: crazy about that man. That man helps sharpen my sword. 1049 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 2: He don't have to worry about me using that sword 1050 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 2: in battle against him ever, you know what I'm saying. 1051 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: And rappers do that shit. Rappers do that shit to me. 1052 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 2: It's rappers like, yo, let me get a feature, Let 1053 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 2: me get a feature, come around and hang around and 1054 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 2: then what they see it's not leading to a contract, 1055 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 2: it's not leading to a feature. Then then what they're 1056 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: doing they bad mouth for me, you know what I'm saying. 1057 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 4: So it's apetitive stance against exactly. 1058 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 2: It's tricky. 1059 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: Going back to the album though, one foot then one 1060 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: for the album Stove called Cooks. 1061 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Stovie Stove stovee. Man, it's my twin man, 1062 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I got a few twins 1063 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 2: and the ship twins, specially my twin base, my tour 1064 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 2: and Rick team and boys twin Conway definitely is like 1065 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 2: that Stove and Butcher energy is different. It's different. So 1066 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 2: upstick connection, man, something's going on up this something that 1067 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: is going on. It's it must be the fracking up 1068 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: there ship in the water man, when they doing something 1069 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 2: up there. But and And I'm proud of bro and 1070 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna help him carry his torch, you know 1071 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Whatever I gotta do to help him 1072 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 2: carry his torch, bringing light to him, him, bringing him 1073 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 2: on the album, me doing records with him, gettinghim on, 1074 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 2: getting on his album. Whatever I need to do because 1075 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 2: he represent what I represent. So I'm proud of bro 1076 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: And And I know, people love that energy, you know 1077 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, So we're gonna continue to get out 1078 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: of it. There was a lyric on there that really 1079 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 2: stood out to me. 1080 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 1: You said one foot out the game with the freestyle 1081 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: with Flex, and you had one foot in the door 1082 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: at the jay Z's house with Wes. You know, at 1083 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: what point did you is that at that point did 1084 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: you feel like you made it when he was at 1085 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: jay Z's house, because you talked about it too on 1086 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: Burden of Proof as well. 1087 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,439 Speaker 2: Huh huh, Yeah, you know what I mean. It's Sean's crib. 1088 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 2: It's a nice crib, definitely, man, And that was just 1089 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 2: a that was just a moment in time where you 1090 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: feel like, Okay, what's going on right now in my 1091 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 2: life where I'm just sitting at this guy's house and 1092 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,479 Speaker 2: we talking business And definitely a moment where I felt 1093 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 2: like I made it. It's like I said, I was 1094 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 2: one foot in the game at that after the freestyle 1095 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 2: with Flex, because during that time I probably was doing 1096 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 2: some things that I probably shouldn't have been doing that 1097 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 2: maybe Wes ll Conley didn't know that I was doing 1098 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: probably was. So that's that's the real underlying That's what 1099 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 2: I really meant was one fit in a game. After 1100 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 2: that freestyle with Flex, I had one foot in the 1101 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: door at jay Z House with West. You know what 1102 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like I was taking that foot out 1103 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 2: the door and putting it in a game. You know 1104 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So that's what I mean by that. 1105 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and going back up state, man and Buffalo is 1106 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: the hometown that's very close to your heart. There was 1107 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: a record that we heard. We heard two versions of 1108 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: this album, Black Santa. Is that gonna make the cut? 1109 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 2: No, it's not gonna make the come on right right right, 1110 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 2: right right. It's not my fault. It's not my fault. 1111 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 2: Who we got to run up on? Whoever? Whoever? Al 1112 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 2: Green's of State clearing a sample? Ye yeah, oh well, 1113 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 2: that was one of my favorite records on the album. 1114 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: One of my favor hurts me not to make the 1115 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: album what I'm saying, because I really like I was 1116 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 2: really saying some ship. I got it off my chest 1117 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: and it falls into the category of everybody can't go 1118 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 2: That was that almost been like the title track of 1119 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 2: the album. You know what I'm saying, right, damn well. 1120 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: The reason why I brought that up is because we 1121 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: talk about community and like, you know, giving back to 1122 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: the city of Buffalo, how important that was to you? 1123 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 2: That man, that's my that's that's my city, and and 1124 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 2: that's what people expect me to do. And I'm gonna 1125 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 2: go above and beyond, above and beyond. Like I was 1126 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 2: like fucking delivering groceries to people. I went to a 1127 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 2: grocery store and seeing people who needed rides, pilling people up, 1128 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: giving the rise back to their uh, to their crib. 1129 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. In the fucking blizzard with 1130 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 2: a pool shisty mask, people don't even notice me. They 1131 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 2: don't even know it's me. Like a couple of people 1132 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 2: at the end I lift my mask, They're like, oh shit, 1133 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: fucking bitny, Like damn, libody gonna lay this Like I'm 1134 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 2: saving people. I'm jumping out the snow, helping people, throwing 1135 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 2: people groceries in. I'm pulling up, giving people bread. You 1136 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, donating, donating money so people can 1137 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 2: get their ship right in My man is he in prison? 1138 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm saying, making sure his mom was good. And I 1139 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 2: don't I don't always I don't always post about things 1140 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 2: like that because it's almost corny to me and it's 1141 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 2: almost what I should be doing. But you know what 1142 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 2: I learned is you should post about things like that 1143 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 2: because I was. I was interested in doing more for 1144 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 2: my community when I seen somebody post about it, and 1145 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 2: so maybe I could create that same effect when I 1146 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 2: post about it like that buffalo shooting. You know what 1147 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying, man, We donated money. We raised twenty thousand 1148 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 2: dollars up for the family I know personal I know 1149 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 2: families personally that was affected by that. We went to 1150 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 2: the White House to help bring awareness, speaking on Ari 1151 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 2: Melbourn or MSNBC to help create awareness. You know what 1152 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 2: I'm saying about the things that's going on. You know 1153 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of people don't see that, 1154 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 2: and they need to see that. Like I said, I 1155 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: hate to try to like frontline that things because you know, 1156 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: those are tragedies, you know what I mean that people 1157 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 2: families are still dealing with. So I try not to 1158 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 2: bring it up all the time. But you know, a 1159 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 2: nigga do what he can for the city, man, And 1160 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 2: and you know those me that they are me and 1161 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 2: I'm them. So I'm gonna continue to do things like. 1162 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: That, or what song are you most proud of on 1163 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: this album? 1164 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: I would say I would say back Again is a 1165 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: moment back Again where Snoop is at the end talking 1166 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 2: on a record and I heard him talk on records 1167 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 2: like that for so many other people, Like I said, 1168 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 2: it just I just realized, Okay, like I'm in this 1169 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 2: chair now, it's my turn in the chair. Uh. Definitely 1170 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 2: Germany's Graduation where basically where you know I like to 1171 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 2: do reflect songs where I'm saying how I was here 1172 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 2: and I made it from here, the triumphant songs, journey right, 1173 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 2: how to be a rapper, Basically I'm telling my story 1174 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: on there. You're all telling stories too. 1175 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: You got your storytelling bag on Oh yeah you trust 1176 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,479 Speaker 1: more valuable than love? 1177 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely definitely, Man, I can't wait for people to 1178 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 2: hear that record, especially the last verse. You know what 1179 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Especially the last verse you listen to that, 1180 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 2: listen to that. 1181 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 1: I want to be one of the first to tell 1182 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 1: you this album is really it's you delivered. You know, 1183 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: you were waiting a long time for it, and it's 1184 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: like I was as I was listeners, like every song 1185 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 1: just kept getting better and better. I was like, I 1186 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 1: got to catch myself for a moment. Make sure I'm 1187 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: mishearing that. 1188 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 2: That's what what happened when I sent to the Cold. 1189 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 2: I sent Cold like for Fire Records, and he called me. 1190 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 2: He was like, nigga, send me the rest because if 1191 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 2: you got a classic, niggas got a classic. And you 1192 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 2: know what I didn't do. I didn't send him the 1193 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 2: rest because I want I want him, I want that 1194 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 2: to linger in him. 1195 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 4: That let him sit with that until it's time. 1196 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: Well, it was so dope about that song. Is that 1197 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: beat switches three times? And like what was the inspiration 1198 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 1: behind that? We like watching Netflix or something. 1199 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: One day, man, I just wanted to I wanted to 1200 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 2: get in my storytelling bag because people because people say 1201 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm a good storyteller, but when I'm telling stories, I 1202 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 2: really never told like a story like that. I'm just 1203 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: telling my story. So I wanted to, like to tell 1204 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 2: some stories of people that I knew, or some things 1205 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 2: that I heard of, you know, just you know, just 1206 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,319 Speaker 2: just something to keep people to the edge of the seat, 1207 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 2: something in the edge of the seat, something to keep 1208 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 2: people like, damn, what the fuck happened? Like, damn, how 1209 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,879 Speaker 2: the fuck you think of that? You know what I'm saying, 1210 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 2: you know, just getting an art form of it. Man, 1211 00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 2: you're just trying to deliver, trying to cover all all 1212 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 2: areas and all bases. Man, tell my stories, switch my 1213 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 2: flow up, melodic songs, hip hop songs, the beat switches. 1214 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Just try and everything right. 1215 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, like when this 1216 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,760 Speaker 1: album comes out, like, what do you feel like validation 1217 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: is gonna be? 1218 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 2: Is is it another plaque? 1219 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: Is it the response from the fans? 1220 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 2: This? This is this is the validation and uh, thank 1221 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 2: thank god that that I'm that I have self confidence 1222 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 2: and self love that I don't need my validation to 1223 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,479 Speaker 2: come from nowhere else. I feel like it's already done. 1224 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:42,720 Speaker 2: Me Man shout out rock Mars, shout out mayhemmle Wren 1225 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 2: shout out man. So many names I'm forgetting sky Zoo 1226 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 2: shout out Action Bronson, shout out Danny Brown, all of 1227 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 2: these guys, Flea Lord, a whole bunch of these guys. Man, 1228 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm forgetting your name. But Ransom Ransom terminology 1229 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 2: thirty eight spash static Selector is like when people see 1230 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 2: me with depth, Jam on a higher level. Nigga, this 1231 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 2: is this is the culture. I don't want people to 1232 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 2: think that, Okay, I got them there, exactly. I don't 1233 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 2: want to think people. I don't want people to look 1234 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 2: at me going to depth Jam. It's like, Okay, he's switching, 1235 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 2: he's he he's going. No, nigga, we're going come with 1236 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 2: going to depth jam. This our genre music. And I'm 1237 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 2: an artist that you guys champion and gave confidence to 1238 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 2: and helped me rise up here. So we're going here 1239 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 2: to get better looks and spread it and spread this 1240 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 2: hip hop ship, this Griselda ship, this black soprano ship 1241 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,440 Speaker 2: in every fucking corner and every place that we can 1242 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 2: get it to. So, I mean, I feel like that's 1243 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 2: the validation. Is that a guy like me, Like I said, 1244 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 2: I remember hearing Double Excel say that, what about Conway. 1245 00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 2: I remember being in the freshman meeting. I remember I 1246 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 2: remember like, let's go go back to the rat rate. 1247 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 2: Our energies. Look at my jewelry and when I wear 1248 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 2: that ship like I wear this, but just look. I 1249 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 2: remember like having to wait for my turn, you know 1250 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,280 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So to have my turn, which I earned, 1251 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 2: is a moment for all of us in underground hip hop, 1252 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 2: because that's all we want. We want to have our turn. 1253 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 2: We want to be looked at on a higher level 1254 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 2: with all of these other guys who they look at, 1255 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,439 Speaker 2: all these other guys who want to chart. We want 1256 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 2: our chance to dance with those guys, and with me, 1257 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 2: through me, a lot of people getting their chance to 1258 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 2: dance with those guys. Man, you feel what I'm saying. 1259 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 2: So the underground world, man, we're validated. We did that shit, 1260 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And it's not only West 1261 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 2: who did it. It's not only Conway did it. It's 1262 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 2: not only Rock Marsh who did it. It's like it's 1263 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,280 Speaker 2: another guy who doing it. You know what I'm saying. 1264 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 2: And you can do that shit too. That's it. And 1265 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 2: we're not scaring the holes, right, We're not scaring the holes. Man. Listen, 1266 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: niggas told me Niggas love saying that I scared the holes. 1267 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm scaring the holes on this album. 1268 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 2: You're not hose. I want to hear from y'all. I 1269 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm scaring y'all, but let me know 1270 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,280 Speaker 2: when it happened. 1271 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: I think I think the narrative is changing though, I 1272 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: feel like the holes are like and lyrical rap again. 1273 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 2: Right you see, Yo, West be like, come in, bitch, 1274 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean I need one of them joints. But yeah, man, 1275 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 2: like I said, it's like different different corners man, in 1276 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 2: different and different uh pockets that were spreading this ship too. Man, 1277 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's the wind for me, 1278 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 2: that's the wind. 1279 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 3: What did you realize that with this album that you 1280 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 3: was capturing everything you needed to capture, like you you're 1281 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 3: an executive producer with that, Like you said, it's about diligence, growth, substance, 1282 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: Like what was that final stage of like closing that 1283 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 3: album out and feeling like it represents you the right way. 1284 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 2: Along the way where where I put certain records in place. 1285 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 2: After I did a Snoop record, I'm like, okay, I 1286 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 2: got okay, I got the Snow record. After I did 1287 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 2: a story record, I'm like, okay, okay, boom, that's that's that. 1288 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 2: I got that. After the Germany's graduation, I'm like, okay, 1289 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 2: I needed that piece. Then I got the record with 1290 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 2: Kahn and Rick on it and Con and West, I'm like, 1291 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 2: oh shit, I know I needed my Grosela record. I 1292 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 2: got that one foot out one shit with me in Stove, 1293 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: So it was the ingredients. And I looked back and 1294 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I covered every base on this joint, 1295 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 2: because classic albums that we grew up off of cover 1296 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 2: every fucking square. You always had that West Coast song, 1297 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 2: you had that down South song, you had that East 1298 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,920 Speaker 2: Coast song. Remember the remix, Juvenile remix High jay Z 1299 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,440 Speaker 2: jumped on the motherfucker. That was all he was missing, 1300 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Even though not saying that 1301 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 2: they needed hole, but that was all he was missing, 1302 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 2: just like you know Hove. We wonder why Hove was 1303 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 2: fucking with short Dog all the time. Hove always going 1304 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 2: back to fuck with Scarface. Pardon me, because those are 1305 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 2: blanks that he had to fill in. I felt like 1306 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: I felt in all the blanks on this you know 1307 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I feel like everybody and hip hop 1308 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 2: is represented on his album. That's what I was looking for. 1309 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 2: That's a fact. Man. Everybody can go, man, everybody can't 1310 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 2: go man. And I hope people back home feel the 1311 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 2: same way. Man. Everything is not for everybody. Don't feel guilty. 1312 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 2: Don't feel guilty. For living and your truth, for being 1313 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 2: you who you are, for shining brighter than others. Don't 1314 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 2: feel guilty for that because you know God put us 1315 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 2: here to shine brighter than others. You know what I'm saying, 1316 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 2: And that doesn't demn nobody else lights out, But man, 1317 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 2: don't feel guilty for that shit. They try to make 1318 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 2: us feel guilty. So this is me telling everybody like, 1319 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 2: I'm living my truth. I'm gonna be who I am. 1320 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 2: And yes, that might mean nigga, we're done because I'm 1321 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 2: not doing the same shit that y'all doing. That could 1322 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 2: go for a female, that shit can go for a 1323 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 2: business partner, and then and in my case, it goes 1324 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 2: for everything. Just go for females, business partners, friends, family, Nigga. 1325 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 2: I don't drink the same shit. I don't eat the 1326 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: same shit because everybody can't go. I don't shop at 1327 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 2: the same place. Everybody can't go. It's a mind thing, man, 1328 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 2: And once people understand that, they get it more. 1329 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 4: Your success brought more clarity to everything. 1330 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 2: I think so I think so too. It's like I 1331 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 2: said that I didn't say it on this album, but 1332 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 2: I said like I ran my money up and understood 1333 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 2: life you know what I'm saying. I understood life first 1334 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 2: because responsibility. Man, with money comes fucking responsibility. I'm responsible 1335 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 2: for myself and other people. With money comes understanding knowledge 1336 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 2: because it puts you in different rooms. I'm not on 1337 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 2: a block hustling with a whole bunch of dropouts, niggas 1338 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 2: who got three felon needs? Who who's banging on a 1339 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 2: penitentiary door trying to get back in let me in. 1340 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 2: I'm not around those guys more I was. I was 1341 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 2: at the Reform. I was at the Reform. Shit that 1342 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 2: meet just through and I'm kicking it with og Wan. 1343 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, you gamble and I'm like, nah, 1344 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 2: I don't gamble, I'll scrambled. He's like, Nigga, you in 1345 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 2: the wrong place then, and I understood. He said, He's like, Nigga, 1346 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,439 Speaker 2: leave that shit at home. Still, you know what I'm saying. 1347 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 2: So you're around people. I probably would have been around 1348 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 2: some other niggas and they probably thought that was cool. 1349 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 2: I said that when directed me on that. You know 1350 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,439 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, they would have thought that was cool. 1351 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,919 Speaker 2: So when money comes responsibility and uh, and you see 1352 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 2: who you are, Like I said on the burn, to proof. 1353 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 2: Money don't change you. It just it just puts a 1354 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,919 Speaker 2: magnifying glass on your personality. You feel what I'm saying. 1355 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 2: So me having the things that I have and still 1356 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 2: being a person I am gives me definitely gives clarity, 1357 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,959 Speaker 2: Like my mama raised me the fuck right. 1358 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 1: Even back again, I think you said, you say nothing 1359 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: like that first m. 1360 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 2: Nothing like that first M. I wouldn't know, stop right out, 1361 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 2: y'all been doing this ship forever, man, I mean it's 1362 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 2: like that that, Like I said that paper man, it's 1363 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 2: a magnifying glass and you get to see how you act. 1364 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 2: You get to see how everybody else. You know what 1365 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,919 Speaker 2: I'm saying. You get to see how everybody else act. 1366 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, it's it's a beautiful 1367 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 2: thing when you, when you, when you know how to 1368 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 2: manage it, when you know how to control it, when 1369 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 2: you when you're comfortable in your own skin, it's a 1370 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 2: beautiful fucking thing. You know what I mean. It's a 1371 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 2: beautiful thing. Man, It's a beautiful album. Everyone can't go, 1372 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: but everyone can stream. Everyone can stream. That's that's gonna 1373 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 2: be the deluxe. Maybe get there clear by that right, Yeah, 1374 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 2: maybe we're gonna get the l Green song clear by then, 1375 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 2: because I want people to hear that and and this 1376 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 2: and this. Let me say this, man, this, this piece, 1377 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 2: this piece is is. It means a lot to me. 1378 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 2: It shows growth and a Griselda collective. It shows growth 1379 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 2: on my partner, Nigga's still on there. I don't want 1380 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 2: people to hear these words and feel like, oh, he 1381 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 2: switched it up and everything because I said, I'm not 1382 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 2: using boom bat beats. It's it's hell of boom batshits. 1383 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 2: His boom bat beats. Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. 1384 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 2: It's just that that wasn't my main focus. But this piece, 1385 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm proud of it, and I know the fans is 1386 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 2: gonna be proud of it. The supporters gonna be proud 1387 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 2: of it, and I know the I know people who's 1388 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 2: gonna like yo this. He's steady moving forward. He steady progressing, 1389 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 2: and that means a lot to me. I know the 1390 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 2: critics is gonna critique, and I know the haters gonna hate, 1391 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 2: and I know the trappers gonna pop the ship and 1392 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 2: then trap to it. And I know the holes is 1393 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 2: not going to be scared of me no more. You know, 1394 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So, I feel like this piece answered 1395 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 2: a lot of questions and and I believe this is 1396 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,320 Speaker 2: I believe this is gonna sit somewhere special and the 1397 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 2: Benny Butcher and a Bennie the Butcher Catalog. It's gonna 1398 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 2: sit somewhere special. Man. 1399 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 4: Absolutely, congratulations, Betty. We appreciate you. 1400 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 2: Man, appreciate y'all boys. Man, I enjoyed this talk. Man 1401 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 2: and y'all down here for the one fest. 1402 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: No, I'm in and out, in and out came you ship. 1403 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know that ship. 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