1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: What would you talk about on your arm? On your podcasts? 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Fifteen Morning Show, Goteen Minute Morning Show podcast. Lots to 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: cover today. In the room, we've got Scary what up. 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: In the other room, we've got Scottie b Hi, Here's Gandhi, 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Andrew the Menace is here, and there's there's Garrett, and 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: here's Scary straight Ate is here? Do that again? And 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: here's Scary Hi. You're so weird. And our friend Vienna 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: from Tanzania, Africa is joining us in just a few minutes. 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: Can't we start with Andrew? Please? So you got a 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: ticket for doing what? Okay? So this happened in twenty 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: twenty one. My car was towed after the iHeartRadio Music 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Festival twenty twenty one. There was a street festival that 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: I did not know about. My car was towed. I've 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: got to pick up my car from the toeyard traumatic experience, 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: and there is a blank ticket on my windshield. So 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: I've kept this ticket ever since because I'm like, there's 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: nothing on this ticket. How do I know what I 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: was charged with? So fast forward to two court dates 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: later over zoom and I fought it today. Yes, so 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: you have justice. A court date on zoom. Yeah, I've 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: never done a zoom court date for tickets, but then again, 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: i've never headed ticket pin a rose on your now's 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: your drive anyway? So how was the experience? And terrible? 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: What do you mean so it's not fun? Zoom court 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: is not fun. I've done zoom jury duty. This is 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: now zoom court for me. It's it's really it wasn't great. 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: And I did it over here because I thought I 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: could just be audio and then they were like you 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: have to turn the camera on. And then it just 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: so happened that you were walking by at the same 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: time and the judge is I went to turn around 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and be like, I'm on court, and the judge screaming 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: in my airpod's going this is a court of law, 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm so sorry. You shouldn't I'm talking 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: to a Corn. I'm thinking Corn, the group, you know 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: Corn with the k Yeah, we have a meeting there. 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: So the jogo is mad because I'm walking by. Yes, 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: he's like, are you not in a place where oh 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: that George, that judge can suck my ass. Yes, he's terrible. 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm not contempt. I'm not in a stupid contempt you're 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna get Andrew triple fined by your words. Now it's 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: already done. Who who is it? Who's in the court? 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: M So here was the thing. The ticket was blank. 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: And I said this several times to him, and he 45 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: was trying to test me, like, well, would you rather 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: this be in person? Then I'm like, yeah, it should 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: be a person because I have the blank ticket because 48 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: I've saved it for two years. And he's like, well, 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: the cop would not write a ticket and then submit 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: it if it was blank. And I'm like, well, I 51 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: had the evidence that says otherwise. And so I got 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: a tend. He reduced the fine all the way. I 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: think it was two fifty to ten dollars, and I 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: played guilty. Oh what a nice ten dollars. I don't 55 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: like this judge points, you get points on the license. 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: All right, well let's move on. You don't want any 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: stunt any actually i've ever had with a judge. They 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: lured over their authority like they're always judging right. It's frightening. 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: It is. I wish to be one someday. Oh you're 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: you're you're our version of having a judge. Well, anyway, 61 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: so you're all dying but rude, so rude, and zoo 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: court is not fun. I want to go in person 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: because I would have held my ticket up and said, 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: your honor, I submit this. I was ready for that 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: moment and I didn't have it, or maybe try to 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: follow the rules of parking. Well, I didn't know there 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: was a street festival in the middle of September. What 68 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: are we celebrating. Oh, you can appeal, I know, but 69 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: it's only a Well here's the problem, by the way, 70 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: and now we welcome Vienna, Vienna, our attorney from Tanzania. 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: The thing is, you don't want to appeal because it's 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: only ten dollars in no points to just pay their 73 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: ten dollars and move. Yeah, I'll keep moving. Yeah, Vienna 74 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: would appeal. It's it's a which if I'm not happy 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: with the outcome, you know, I'm definitely a pill. Good 76 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: for you fight the power? Can you go back? Can 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: you put Vienna in your zoom room? Let him be 78 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: your attorney. Yes, I'm glad. I'm glad you got away 79 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: with moment. It was great, but judge, bitch, we welcome 80 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: Vienna all the way from Tanzania. This is his fourth 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: time in New York City. I think he loves New 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: York because we get him trashed. He meets a lot 83 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: of people. So Vienna, let's talk about let's talk about 84 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: going on safari, Let's talk about whatever you want to 85 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: talk about. Go, well, who want Oh I thought you 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I thought he was going to kick this off? All right? 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: Has anybody on one of your tours or another tour 88 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: ever been injured doing something stupid while on safari? Yes? 89 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: So recently, like you know, just before COVID. Uh So, 90 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: there are people that went to South Africa and the 91 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: authern Safari on the evening drinks and so they went 92 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: to take a picture with the rhino, like who hastad 93 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: on Satriday. So they came out of the vehicle and 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: they went and approached this white rhino. Oh no, they 95 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: started like taking pictures and the rhino charged and injured, 96 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, with a horn Like go, I mean, isn't 97 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: the rhino one of those dangerous animals in the world? 98 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: A man a man because they they're they're very aggressive. 99 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: So you know, these people provoked the rhinos. So the 100 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: rhino didn't really had an option because you know, animals 101 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: they always defend. Animals are like human beings. It's just 102 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: the white rhino extinct. Uh, the black rhino is endangered. 103 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: The white rhino is also endangered. But with the rhinos, 104 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: they are subspecies of them. So the white northern rhino 105 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: women women to mother and daughter. Yeah, so the men died, 106 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: so he couldn't breed with them because they're all his daughters. 107 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: So that part of it, it's almost disappearing now, Vietnam scary. Okay, 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: First of all, what's the difference between extinct and endangered. 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Extinct means they're in the past, there's no living species 110 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: of that right, and endangered means they're on a path 111 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: should be in extinct exactly. So I didn't realize that. 112 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: I thought that since there's two women left and no 113 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: guys to impregnate the women, then there's not gonna be females. 114 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: There's not gonna be any more white rhinos pretty soon. 115 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: So your theory is correct, because so we called that 116 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: even though they had two left, but they won't breed, 117 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: so we called them as extincted already because you know, 118 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: theoretically there won't be any more of the white rhinos 119 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: in the world, northern race of the white rhinos, So 120 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: whose fault is that you. Yeah, if we can bring 121 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: back a wooly mammoth, which they're trying to do, why 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: can't we bring back the white rhino? That seems more important. 123 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: So they're they're they're looking into that option. They're looking 124 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: to do some biological thing in the lab and see 125 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: if they can bring some of them rhinos, but it 126 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: won't really be wild so they're looking at the options. 127 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: How has climate changed effect what you do? How has 128 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: the warming of the planet changed. I don't know migrations 129 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: or the water that's available for the animals, how has 130 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: that changed. It has changed a lot, and you can 131 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: see the impact even as today. So I'll talk us 132 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: for the wilderbist migration. So the wildebist migration follows green 133 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: posts and grasses and water. So we have had shortage 134 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: of rain for the last few years, so the psych 135 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: of them migration has really not been you know, as 136 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: it used to be like for the last ten fifteen years. 137 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: So they were supposed to be up in the down 138 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: southern side where they give birth. So they were there 139 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: in December and there was no rain. It just started 140 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: raining like late late December for like a few days. 141 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: It stopped and then January there was no rain, so 142 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: they were waiting for FABRW like end January early FABRW 143 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: so that they can start dropping their babies. There's no rain, 144 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: so that means these babies cannot really survive. Luckily, the 145 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: wilderbeest can synchronize their bath. When I say that, I 146 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: mean they can hold their babies in their stomach for 147 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: up to two months. So they had to do that. 148 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: But some of them had to drop because you know, 149 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: it's it's you have to do it for you to 150 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: be able to move on. So some of the baby survived. 151 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: Some of the babies didn't survive. So the rain has 152 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: been a big, big problem. You go up north where 153 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: they're crossing the Mara River. Last year when I was 154 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: there for the first two three months, the river did 155 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: not have enough water. So the wilder beasts are going easily, 156 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: but the crocodiles that depends on the water to hunt. 157 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: They couldn't do lots of huntings because there's not enough 158 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: water for them to be able to do that. So 159 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: that made the crocodiles not to be able to eat. 160 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: They can feed on fish and other small things, but 161 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: if they get a meal like a wilder beast, that 162 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: keeps them going for up to a year six months 163 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: to a year without eating because you know crocodiles they 164 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: have very slow heartbit that is one hatbit up to 165 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: shoot sometimes even four minutes, so they haben it very well. 166 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: So if they don't have enough water for them to 167 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: be able to hunt, they will go for smaller things 168 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: and then they won't go for a bigger things. So 169 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: that also somehow gives them a bit of a of 170 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: a problem because they've been fitting for years as they've 171 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,479 Speaker 1: been doing that. Yeah, that's so sad. It is incredible. 172 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, is that the same river you 173 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: just mentioned? Is that the river that we were what 174 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: we did that. It's a fascinating thing. And you see 175 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people who run safari waiting on the 176 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: banks for all the wildebeest to jump off the cliffs 177 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: and get the courage to come over to keep the 178 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: migration going. The problem is they're waiting for like one 179 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: to start it. So they're all on the bank going, 180 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: you do it, can you do it? You go you 181 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: go first, you go first, and then it could take days, right, 182 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean they or they can just go over. It 183 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: just depends on like how brave they are, but when 184 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: they go into the water they know that there could 185 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: be crocodiles or alligators. Which one is it crocodiles in 186 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the water or whatever it's it's it's a weird thing 187 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: to watch. We waited for a long time. But once 188 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: they start coming over, and you can look up videos 189 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: of this will tell you. You have videos and my 190 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: Instagram page. I mean, there's thousands of them coming over 191 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: the over the cliffs into the water to start the 192 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: migration again. It's fascinating, it's incredible. I watched the whole 193 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: documentary about that specific moment. I think it's called It's 194 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: either like Death on the River Mara or River Mara 195 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: Death something, and it's all about exactly what you guys 196 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: are talking about, which is this giant migration and how 197 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the crocodiles just wait and it's chaos. It was amazing. 198 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,479 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things to watching in the bush. 199 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Like almost all of my safaris, if they come between 200 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: July and October, allots take them to say that it's 201 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: it's very nice towards It can take time as you wait, 202 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: but once it happens, you have thousands of them going, 203 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: so it's really really something that I always wish people 204 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: to see. So it is. It is fascinating. There's so 205 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: many things to see and look. And keep in mind 206 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: sometimes while you're on safari, are you okay? When you're 207 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: on sa faris, there's a lot of waiting. You sometimes 208 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: you have to wait to be patient. You can go 209 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: out to this really huge grassy field and just wait 210 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: for that line to find something to tackle. And it's 211 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot of waiting, right, But patient and waiting. That's 212 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: that's when we test people the level of waiting. Like 213 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: you know, we I always say we have visitors. So 214 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: these animals they decide to welcome us. Oh, they say, 215 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: like go on, I want to rest. So there's nothing 216 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: much you can do. You just wait for the animal 217 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: to do the action, and if you're patient enough, you 218 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: always get everyone at the end. I was reading a story, Puberty. 219 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: I was reading a story the other day, Vina, that 220 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: some animal numbers are actually increasing, like elephants. Are you 221 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: seeing that in the bush? Are you seeing there there's 222 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: more animals or is there fewer? Yeah, so there are 223 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: species that their numbers are really going high, like elephants. 224 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: In some areas our national parks authorities and the government 225 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: have taken lots of measures to empower the rangers to 226 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: be able to work easily to fight the poaches. For example, 227 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: a park called Tarangi National Park. Back like late eighties, 228 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: they had very few elephants, probably maybe around three thousand 229 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: even less. But as we speak, that park has got 230 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: about seven thousand elephants, so the population of the elephant 231 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: in that particular park has gone very very high. And 232 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: this is the funny thing poaches. So we have a 233 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: big tree called Albab tree. Albab tree can be like 234 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: half of this room, like massive. We have some that 235 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: even a hundred people have to go around to be 236 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: able to hold hands, and they live for about three 237 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: hundred years. So poaches discover that these trees are inside. 238 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: So what poachers used to do they cut the back 239 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: of the tree and they go inside of that tree 240 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: and they live there in the tree, in the tree, 241 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: just waiting for things for their duck to come and 242 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: they come out and they go and hunt. So the 243 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: pack was able to know that, so they started tracking 244 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: them using trees as well. So if you go to 245 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Tarange National Park you will see some of the some 246 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: of the barbab trees that poachers actually cutted them down, 247 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: like to have that entrance into the tree to be 248 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: able to hide in the such a himbler elves of poachers. 249 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: So is poaching less more? Are still the same problem 250 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: as it was ten twenty years ago? It's less more 251 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: because now technology is advancing. People are now donating lots 252 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: of funds to try and keep the animals alive. You know, 253 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: now they use choppers, they use planes to do trolls, 254 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: foot patrols, They have the camping gears that they can 255 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: go for days out in the in the bush and 256 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: you know patrol. So now the poaching is getting less 257 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: into other animals, but it's getting more into rhinos. So 258 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: rhinos are now really endangered because of you know, poaches. 259 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: People really poaching them because they believe with aphrodisiac it 260 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: helps mane so they the value of it has really 261 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: really gone high into the market. Have you ever came 262 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: to poacher? Yes, I have. I have a few times, 263 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: like back in two thousand and fourteen, two thousand and 264 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: twelve and somewhere around two thousand and sixteen seventeen. There, 265 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: how does that work out? Just let them be? Oh yeah, 266 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: you report them, You report them to the rangers. I 267 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: give them the location, and most of the ones that 268 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: have I saw, they're actually caught. Yeah, because I report them, 269 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: reported them. I gave out their location, and the pack 270 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: came in and they track them and they got them. 271 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: But because you're having people in your vehicle, you don 272 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: want to provoke them, right, So what you do just 273 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: let them, you know, be and you go on. You 274 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: pretend like you didn't see them, you're not having any 275 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: hues with them, and then as soon as you're far away, 276 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: you call the rangers. They always have their numbers out 277 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: that you can reach the Antipoching unit and then they 278 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: will come. It's so much fun to go on safari, 279 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: especially VNA, and everyone can do it. 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