1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I actually think, Rob, you you made in 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: one remark, you made the argument that's going to keep 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman out of the Hall of Fame. And I 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: don't think it has anything to do with his play. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, so you're buying what I said to you. No, No, 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: I knew that. I mean, like, look if it's if 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: it's a fifty fifty guy and he got caught with peds, 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: and I like, look, could you make the excuse slate 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: in his career? You know, he's trying to get back 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: out on the field, like fine, but he got caught 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: with it, and you know he pop positive I you know, 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: and it would be very close and he probably doesn't 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: get in under reasonable circumstances and then you know the 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: positive peed test. I don't think he gets in. But 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: I think the part that many people miss on is 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: all of the other things that help you win are 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: the reason that Julian Edelman, based on his play, would 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: belong into the Hall of Fame. Like the more you coach, 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: the more you play. If you've played, you understand that 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: there are guys that and Raymond Green is a perfect example. 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, do I think Draymond Green you can put 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: him on any team in the NBA, he's gonna average 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: twenty five points. No, No, but okay, And so if 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: that's what signifies and all time great to you, he's 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: never gonna match up to that. But considering what the 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors have needed will need to get there again, 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: the reason they were a dominant team, he was as 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: important a part of it as Steph was, as Clay was, 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: as Kevin Durant was. There's no question in my mind. 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: And it's not the scoring, it's not statistical rebounding. It's 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: all of the other little things that you do. And 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, in basketball, we seem to get that 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: more than we do in football. Yeah, I just I 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: don't think he ranked. There's so many other players, Doug. 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: I hear your point, but his body of work during 37 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: the regular season is not good enough to consider him 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: one of the all time greats. It's not the Hall 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: of very good. This is me. You know, I'm a 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame voter. If there's a debate about 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: your career, you're not a Hall of Famer to me. Okay, 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: When I say when I say Willie Mays, Hank Aaron Ken, 43 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: Griffey Jr. I'm not hesitating. I'm not going uh yeah, 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: well that that, to me is where the greatest of 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: great players should be. Not well, you know he didn't 46 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: make that one catch in the Super Bowl. Yeah, he 47 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: did win a Super Bowl MVP despite not having a 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: touchdown in that game. Yeah, you know, those guys, to me, 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: are should go to the Hall. Are very good. That's 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: just that's just the way I approach it. I think 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: it should be the best of the best, and Julian 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Edelman is not the best of the best. Okay. Like again, 53 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: that's that to me is a bit of a different 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: argument than the one that most people make. I agree 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: with you. The Hall of Fame should be the all 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: time grades, all time grades, right, And to be an 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: all time grade, you have to have been the best 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: at your position for at least a year, if not 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: a couple of years. I think my argument would be, 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: is there a slot wide receiver in the NFL, And 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: to me, it'd be Wes Welker ahead of Edelman because 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: he was far and away the best slot wide receiver 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: in the league for a couple of years and maybe 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: the best that there's ever been his best option route runner, 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: third down wide receiver in the NFL. For a good 66 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: four years there, Edelman did a lot of other things. 67 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: He was also Welco's backup for a while. So I 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: agree with you what Hall of Fame should be, but 69 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: what they've become is you have the uber elites. It's like, look, 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this with Frank sol Jordan is going 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: to present Kobe in in the Hall of Fame, right, Like, 72 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna argue Kobe belongs in the Hall of Fame, 73 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: but there's lots of other guys in the basketball Hall 74 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: of Fame who are really, really good. But like you're 75 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: really gonna are you really gonna put him in? It's like, again, 76 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: at Tracy McGrady could really score, he didn't, his teams 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: didn't get out of the first round. He wouldn't get 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: a vote from me. I know. I think that. First 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: of all, I think the NBA dug should have its 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: own Hall of Fame. And that's no disrespect. I've been 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: to the Basketball Hall of Fame Springfield. I was there 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: a few times when people got in, and you know, 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: it's a great honor and all that, and I'm not 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: dissing the Basketball Hall of Fame. NBA should have its 85 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: whole it's all well, because it factors in too many things, 86 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: you know, like your college career. And if that's the case, 87 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: Christian Laytner should be in the Basketball Hall of Fame. 88 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: Christian Layner was a great college basketball player player, maybe 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: not the greatest NBA player, or we're not the greatest 90 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: NBA player. But from that, if you're going by that criteria, 91 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: and they've put people in who are still coaching and 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: still still coaching, which is strange. I mean, there's a 93 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: lot of stuff that I don't like about it, because 94 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: you should be retired before they honor you. But um, yeah, 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: I have an issue with a lot of it because 96 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: it's longevity and all kinds of other things. Tracy McGrady, 97 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: for as great of a score as he was, I 98 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: just I don't think he's a Hall of Fame. Well, 99 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: there is a college basketball Hall of Fame, the basketball 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Hall of I don't. I don't think the NBA needs 101 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: to get into the business of their own Hall of Fame, right, 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: But um, I agree with you on Christian Latner. I 103 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: think he'll be He'll be in the College Basketball Hall 104 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: of Fame and I think eventually he'll be in the 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: in the Naysmith Memorial Hall of Fame. Well, but he 106 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: was also on the Dream Team. I'm just saying, like, 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: if you add that up, he didn't do much, but 108 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: he was because they had to have one college player, 109 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: and he was the best. He was most accomplished college 110 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: player by a long shot that was that was available. Right. 111 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: It just it's it's your argument, is is in fact 112 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: valid in that case? I just look, I think Edelman, Um, 113 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: you know, part of it is he didn't play. You know, 114 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: everybody does the hines Ward thing like he didn't play 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: nearly as much as hines Ward. Like it's just not 116 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, his he basically played seven years. 117 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, he was a backup for four years and 118 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: then the last seven years that you can't compare within 119 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: hines Ward. But I do think that hines Ward is 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: another guy who he he went from being an outside 121 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver to a slack eye and his blocking the 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: other little things that he did helped you win football games. 123 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: And that's the whole idea of it is to help you. 124 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: Who cares what your stats are? Did you help our team? 125 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Win the game. You know, Yeah, Okay, maybe you didn't 126 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: have maybe you can't. If that's the case, then Calvin 127 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: Johnson shouldn't be in that he did. He didn't help 128 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: the Calvin Johnson was so incredibly said what you said, 129 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: you don't care about stats? Who just said, well, what 130 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't care about stats? Dide you help my team? No? 131 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's in either. I don't I think 132 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: it's an either or argument. I think anybody would say, 133 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson's a whole of Okay, how many, how many? 134 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: How many? How many stats? Did Calvin Johnson get him 135 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: meaningful games in his NFL career? No, no, I'm listening. 136 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I know this is playing to your It's like a 137 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: fastball down the pipe to you. I mean the year 138 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: he set the record for receiving yards in a season, 139 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: they won four games, right, so they were all they 140 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: were almost all meaningless stats. It doesn't stop Calvin Johnson 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: from being any incredible a player. I agree. I watched 142 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: his career again. You know, I spent twenty years in Detroit. 143 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: I watched Calvin. He was incredible as a receiver. I'm 144 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: just saying that you need to look at a lot 145 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: of things before you determine, like you know, like like 146 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: where he fits in under under what situation was he 147 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: playing when you Doug? You know this as a former athlete, 148 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: games where you know, I remember Lloyd Vaught, remember him right, 149 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: piled up stats with the Clippers, right and then wound up. 150 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: And that's no knock on Lloyd Vaud. He's playing the 151 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: games didn't matter, they weren't going anywhere, but he piled 152 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: up stats. You know, a lot of guys when end 153 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: up playing games that don't matter, could pile up stats, 154 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: and I think you gotta be careful about that. That's 155 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: that's my issue with Matthew Stafford is that the guy 156 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: was the first overall plick played twelve years, never Doug 157 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: one time. One time. You know, where you rise up 158 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: and win a game for your team that you need 159 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: even though the team's not that good. I've seen great 160 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: players do that, and I didn't see Stafford do that 161 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: in Detroit, and so so I just look at those things. 162 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm a stickler, I'm a hard voter. A lot of 163 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: people would be mad if they looked at my ballot 164 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: because I just don't believe everybody should be rubber stamped 165 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. No, I'm I'm with you, 166 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: Rob Parker, Doug got leaving in for Dan the Dan 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: ats This is the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. 168 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: Like I'll use that. My brother has been a college 169 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: basketball coach for twenty five years and I'll never forget 170 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: he got the assistant job. He was at Syenego State 171 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: when Steve Fisher first got there, and he's there for 172 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: eight years and they became a big power program in 173 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: the Mountain West Conference. He left to go to the 174 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: PAC ten now the PAC twelve and coach at Cow 175 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: And when he got to Calm, his first order business 176 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: was to go find a point guard, and so he 177 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: went to a place called Finley Prepp Finley Prep at 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: the time at Tristan Thompson they had they produced star 179 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: after star for star and he went and he's like, 180 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: who you know, who should who should I offer? And 181 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: assistant coach at the time said the Mexican kid with 182 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: the with the ponytail. And he's like, are you kidding me? 183 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: He's awful looking. He's like, yeah, but he wins every game, 184 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: literally every game. And he said, here's the crazy part. 185 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: Somebody wants to fight him on the other team every game, 186 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: and he just keeps kind of playing. And the kid's 187 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: name is Jorge Gutierres. If you'd go back and track, 188 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Jorge became PAC twelve Player of the Year. Play started 189 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: four year at Cal and then played in the NBA's 190 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: He's still kind of bounce around. He's playing a bunch 191 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: of NBA teams. And Jorge's gift was not there's nothing 192 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: special about his jump shot, about his past whatever. He 193 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: just knew how to win games. He was tough as hell. 194 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: He guard his guy. He scoredway need to passway need 195 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: to He's just tougher than a two dollar steak. And 196 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: those are the guys that helped you win basketball games. 197 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: Those are the guys that help you win football games. 198 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: And it's really hard to explain to somebody statistically that, yeah, 199 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: we got this guy and he puts up twenty five 200 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: to night, But let me tell you about the guy 201 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: who actually helps us win games, and that's this guy. 202 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: And that's where that's why I think he falls. That's fair. 203 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: I'll just and there's a place for that guy. And 204 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate that guy and I totally get it, but 205 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Thanks for 206 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 207 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern 208 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 209 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox 210 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 211 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: on the iHeart Radio app by searching f s R, 212 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Let's welcome in. 213 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: Frank eys Solo. Does the NBA ready for serious XM? 214 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: He joins us here on The Dan Patricks Show. Doug Gottlieb, 215 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: Rob Parker, rank boys, what's up? Rob? Have you have 216 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: you filed the lawsuit yet against Lebron for stealing your 217 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: idea for the barbershop? Ye as Lebron is suing everybody 218 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: else for that idea. Whenever, thank you, it was your idea, 219 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: you know it. Frank, I was doing barbershop sports uh 220 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: TV show in Detroit fifteen years ago. Thank you, Franciate. 221 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: We mentioned that we mentioned that on Radio Rob When 222 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: uh When? When Lebron sent Nick Saban a cease and 223 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: desist letter for like stealing the barbershop idea? I said, well, now, yes, 224 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: Rob Parker is going to send you one because took 225 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: his idea. I'm always looking out for you, Rob. Thank you, 226 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: mom Man, thank you. Um. Okay, the frank The Lakers 227 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: are starting to get healthy. Um. But do you do 228 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: you like this roster for this year and think it'll 229 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: come together well enough for them to get out of 230 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: the West. Well, I do think that not having Rondo 231 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: and not having Dwight Howard could impact them at some point. 232 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: You know, Dwight Howard was big for them, and in fact, 233 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: he committed that hartfoul on bam A Dubai which essentially 234 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: knocked him out of the NBA Finals, and Rondo had 235 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: to ug impact Rondos. You know, the Clippers are seven 236 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: and oh since they picked him up. I still think 237 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: if Lebron is healthy, but that'll be a big question mark. 238 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Could you know the high ankle sprain, You know, that's 239 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: something that could linger for a while. All it's going 240 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: to take his one little knock and that could hurt him. 241 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: But I heard you guys talk about Utah and Phoenix, 242 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: and that's the thing. You're looking at those two. You're 243 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: looking at those teams and they're both playing well. I 244 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: mean Phoenix one the fortieth came last night, and you know, 245 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: you watch the Laker game and there's Lebron and Anthony 246 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: Davis resting, and you're thinking, yeah, come playerff time, that's 247 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: the team you don't want to play. I'll take my 248 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: chances against Huton Phoenix. The Lakers are the team you 249 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: want to avoid, no doubt. What about the nets? Uh, 250 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: I liked the team. They are going to win the 251 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: NBA Championship if they're healthy and they're together. Too much firepower. 252 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: I know people talk about defense, Frank, but you know 253 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys you can't stop. You can't 254 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: touch anybody defensively. I'm not saying you got to let 255 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: people get layups at the rim, but you know, other 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: guys are scoring twos and they're knocking down threes. Where 257 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: are you on the nets and their chance of winning 258 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: a championship? Yeah, And Sean Mark, he says that he's 259 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: a confident that when Game one of the playoffs rolls 260 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: around that their guys will be healthy, and obviously he's 261 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: talking about James Harden, Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irvan. That's 262 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: right now to me. The biggest thing, you know, the 263 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: other night that I did, I was doing the games 264 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: in studio for the y S Network and they played Philadelphia, 265 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe that for a game that was 266 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: for first place in the not only the Atlantic Division, 267 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: but really the Eastern Conference. How the intensity level, I said, 268 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: it was like watching a preseason game, basically going through 269 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: the motions that Kevin Durant didn't play because I'm not 270 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: going to play him in back to backs. You know, 271 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: we all hate it, but Kevin duran is five hundred 272 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: days between you know, getting the Achilles injury and finally 273 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: playing for the Nets. Then he had all these issues 274 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: where he kept getting held out of games because of 275 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: COVID protocol even though he attested positive for it in 276 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty, and then he missed two months 277 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: because of a handstring injury. So what's the point of 278 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: playing him now in back to backs when the playoffs 279 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: are going to begin in two months. I think the 280 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: same thing now is true of James Harden. These opportunities 281 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: come around very infrequently, and they have a great chance 282 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: to win the championship because when the three of them 283 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: had played, it's only been seven games and they're five 284 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: and two, and of course, in one of those games, 285 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Durant was pulled off the court at halftime because of 286 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: a COVID test, So you know, they've been dominant and 287 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Durant listen, Durant is kind of reverted back to getting 288 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: too worried about what people are saying about him on 289 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: social media and on TV. But when the dude was playing, 290 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he never makes a bad play, doesn't take 291 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: a bad shot. He's out there, he's unselfish, he defends. 292 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: You know, he's just such a He's in a different 293 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: class as a player. And if Hard is going to 294 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: play like that, and even Kyrie, when he's been around, 295 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: when he hasn't taken personal days, he's played some of 296 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: his best basketball. This has been his best I'm sorry, 297 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: go ahead, yeah, I'm gonna say, kywee, this is this 298 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: is I think this has been his best season. I 299 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: know he hasn't played all the games, but it's just 300 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: it's just that the problem, Frank is that, like literally 301 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: you have no idea if he's going to show up 302 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: for a playoff game and just no one Like I'm 303 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: just guys, are just I'm just not feeling it today, 304 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Like what are you gonna say? You you allowed this 305 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: to take place? All year, how are you gonna go? Like, Okay, 306 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: now we gotta show up. And then you factor in 307 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: the not just will they guard anybody, but will they 308 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: will they be coachable? Right? The story that I've shared 309 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: with people is that when he was in Boston his 310 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: last series and they lost to Honest, their their defensive 311 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: scheme was to switch with everybody except with Kyrie, and 312 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Kyrie kept switching on you honest and like challenging honest 313 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: and you can't guard your honest, like what are you doing? Like? 314 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: So will he show up? And will he do what 315 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: they asked him to do? Yeah? And I think and 316 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: I think you know, when he was on Boss in 317 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: that series you're talking about all season long, when he 318 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: was struggling, his thing was, well, I just wait for 319 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: the big stage, the big stage. And then the big 320 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: stage came and he didn't play well, and then his 321 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: press conference after they got eliminated was well, it's bigger 322 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: than basketball. We'll hang on a second. Which one is 323 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: you kept saying to get ready for the big stage again. 324 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: I think he's played really well, but your point, and 325 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: this is what's frustrating, Like when he sits up there 326 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: at the zoom interview, Zoom conference interviews and Rob as 327 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: a former Netbeat writer myself as well, I don't under 328 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: stand why they don't ask him, Kyrie, are you getting 329 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: to the Nets play tonight? And then they go on 330 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: a three game road trip which begins in Miami. He's 331 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: missed two of their last three road trips. Why don't 332 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: they ask him? Are you going to be getting on 333 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: the plane to be going traveling with the team? And 334 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: is there a chance you've had some issues where you've 335 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: had to miss time two weeks in January a week 336 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: in March. Is there a chance that you could be 337 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: in a situation where you may have to miss time 338 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: during the plaoffs Because Doug, I agree with you, you'd 339 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: like to think that he's going to be there, but 340 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: you don't know that maybe there's a chance that he's 341 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: gonna have If you have to miss a week during 342 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs, that could be four games that you're missing 343 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: and that could greatly impact the team. Frank, where are 344 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: you on the the MVP race? Obviously a lot of 345 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: the guys who you would say you know had a 346 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: shot at it have been heard Lebron at one point, 347 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Harden h and b do you know what I mean, 348 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: all missed significant amounts of time. Who would you pick 349 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: right now as the MVP. I would probably go with 350 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: Nicolaio Kitchen. Sometimes it's a little bit by process of 351 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: the players eliminating themselves because of injuries. You know, it's 352 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: funny way back when when we all voted for car 353 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: Malone to win the NDP over Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan 354 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: played eighty two games, and if Lebron James had played 355 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: all seventy two games to see it, I think if 356 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: you didn't vote him number one, he was probably gonna 357 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: confine you and and do something to you. Lebron was 358 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: going to be the guy. But now he's to me. 359 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: He's been eliminated. And the other night MB was trying 360 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: to win MVP, Like you could tell that Jannis isn't 361 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: trying to be the MVP. Missed the six games. Last night, 362 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: he played twenty five minutes. He's not going for it 363 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: and be the other night I felt like he was, 364 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: and I didn't even think he was one hundred percent healthy. 365 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: He wants to win the award, but yes, he's missed 366 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: eighteen games, so if he plays in every game the 367 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: rest of the way, he's gonna be a fifty four. 368 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: Jokich has already played him fifty five games. So I can't. 369 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: I can't vote for a guy's gonna miss eighteen and 370 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna miss probably one or two more games. 371 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna vote for a guy that missed twenty games 372 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: out of it siventy two games season. I can't do 373 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: it well. And you know, on the flip side, people, 374 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: you know some of these young uh I called him 375 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: fanboys slash sports riders who are saying that because that's 376 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: where we our business is, frank unfortunately, and you know it. 377 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: But LaMelo ball. They want him to be the Rookie 378 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: of the Year and he's gonna miss the sea, Like, like, 379 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: how in the world, I know he had a great 380 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: start to his career, How in the world could he 381 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: win Rookie of the Year when he's gonna miss They 382 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: didn't quarter the games. You're one hundred percent right, And 383 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: he to me was the favorite and he's had a 384 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: great year and it looks like he's going to be 385 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: a really good player. I mean, I don't understand. It's 386 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: like the one sport, and I think the media plays 387 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: into it. I think the fans do where no one 388 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: puts any value into the regular thing, Like even when 389 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: guys don't play, it's like, oh yeah, he could still 390 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: would need his awards. And if you go back, and 391 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: I said this to Bob Ryan the other day, because 392 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: Bill Walton won the MVP and I think he played 393 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: like fifty four or fifty six games, what were the 394 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: writers doing that? You're going a Grateful Dead concerts with 395 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: the Bill Walton and smoking with him. How do you 396 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: How are you gonna give a guy with the MVP 397 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: who played less than sixty games in an eighty two 398 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: game season. I don't get it, and I think I 399 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: agree with you, Rob. I just think I think every 400 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: I think fantasy sports has a lot to do with it. 401 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: And you know, people just go for the big names. 402 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: I mean it has to be about That's why I 403 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: think people think I'm nuts. But how can Donovan Mitchell. 404 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Donovan Mitchell should be in the top three. 405 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: He can't be in the top five. He's been mentioned. 406 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 1: I mean, yo, yo, it's just gonna win this thing, right, 407 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Uh, does can Denver win a series 408 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: without Jamal Murray? Like we all think yokis is the MVP, 409 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: but Jamal Murray was incredible this year, unbelievable in the bubble, 410 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: he tears his ACL. It feels like that's a team 411 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, now you go from I 412 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: want to play anybody, but Denver too. You know, we 413 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: could play Denver, wouldn't be all that bed. Yeah, I 414 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: kind of agree with you. Now I guess there's a 415 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: chance they might be trying to sign Austin Rivers, but 416 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray is uh, you know, he was having a 417 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: good year, and their pick up of Aaron Gordon is 418 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's an athletic guy that could defend on 419 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: the perimeter. He could do a halfway decent job on 420 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: guys like Lebron and Kawhi. As it sits right now, 421 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: they would be lined up to face the Lakers in 422 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: the first round, and if Anthony Davison Lebron came back, 423 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: I just I just don't see it. I feel badly 424 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: for Denver because it looked like they were certainly trending 425 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: in the right direction, but I felt like they needed 426 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: Jamal Murray. I just can't see them winning three playoff 427 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: series in the Western Conference and getting to an NBA 428 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: Finals without him, Well, what's wrong with the Pelicans? They 429 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: got all these young players. Zion is playing, you know, 430 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: plays well, but but they're twenty five and thirty. They've 431 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: lost a lot. I know, they they've lost a lot 432 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: of games. Maybe that they not that they should have won, 433 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: but it just seemed like they're not that good. Is 434 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: it the changing coach and adjusting to that, or do 435 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: they need a veteran presence or is there too many 436 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: young guys? What's wrong with the Pelicans? Yeah, I think 437 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: it's all that what you said, And you know, they 438 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: just don't defend enough, and that's a problem. There's some 439 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: you know, terrific offensive players and Brandon Ingram and certainly Zion, 440 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: but defensively and in that and in that conference, you 441 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: would I mean, you know that they're trying. So Draymond 442 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: Green comes out and say they have no interest in playing, 443 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, fighting for the ten seed. And even though 444 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Steph Curry's playing like he wants to make the playoffs, 445 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: you know that the league would love to see New 446 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: Orleans get into, at the very least that playing scenario. 447 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: So you get one of the reasons, one of the 448 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: reasons they got invited to the bubble last year to 449 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: begin ja right, because they wanted New Orleans, no doubt 450 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: about it, no doubt, Doug. And that's why I thought, like, yeah, 451 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: so they did all this, they get New Orleans down there, 452 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, poor Alvin Gentry, he's got to 453 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: play the Zion Williamson on a minister striction. Then the 454 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: great thing was this season began and then like one 455 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: of the preseason games that they had, Zion played like 456 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: thirty something minutes. He played more minutes in the preseason 457 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: game that he got to play for Alvin Gentry as 458 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: they were going for the playoffs. So I don't understand 459 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: that whole thing. Doug Live and Rob Parker in for 460 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: Dan and the Danetts. Frank Gi Sola joins us of course, 461 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: long time scribe. You here mon series sex, m NBA Radio, 462 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: UM and end of the day Clippers or Lakers. I'm 463 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: still gonna go with. I still have ultimate confidence in 464 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: Lebron James. I'll probably be rooting for the Clippers because 465 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: I'd like to see uh maybe uh, you know, Kawai 466 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: get there again with that group. To mean, there's a 467 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Kuai. You know you I have 468 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: talked about this before, and he's the one that made 469 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: the move heaven and earth to get Paul George. And 470 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, when it didn't work out, Doc Rivers lost 471 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: his job. That's the great thing about player empowerment. You 472 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: know you're never held accountable with things don't work out. 473 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: But Paul George has played well, and Paul George is 474 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: in a situation where he's only going to be judged 475 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: like a lot of these players in the league, like 476 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, is going to be like that this year 477 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: with Brooklyn. It's only the only acceptable result is winning. 478 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: And for Paul George, he's having a great regular season. 479 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: None of it's gonna matter. It's all gonna be how 480 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: he does in the playoffs. And it would be if 481 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: the Clippers they got to get obviously to the Western Conference, 482 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: if they got to the finals, and even if they 483 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: lost to Brooklyn. I think that you would look at 484 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: that and feel good about it. If you're the Clippers, 485 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: obviously you want to win, but that wouldn't rule out 486 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: a chance that they could come back the next year 487 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: and win. I agree with that. And remember this organization, 488 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: they've never been to a conference finals. You would think 489 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: by accident, you could win. Two players they've had, you know, 490 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: the one, the one that they had when they were 491 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: at the verge of beating Houston a few years back, 492 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: when Chris Paul was still on the Clippers and d 493 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: why I think it was Dwight Howard and James hardwe 494 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 1: on the Rockets and they won that game and then 495 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: when ended up winning the series and of course last 496 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: three of the bubble and there are three one on 497 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: Denver and couldn't get the deal done. Frank, great stuff man, 498 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Glad you could be 499 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: a part of it, and we look forward to talking 500 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: to you in the real Yeah, we're talking to you 501 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: guys at the Frank I solo host of the Starting 502 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: Lineup on sirius XM NBA Radio. Be sure to catch 503 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 504 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 505 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: and the iHeart Radio wapp. Andrew Bryanton joins this columnist SI, 506 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: host of Sports Business Sports Podcast, creator of the Sunday 507 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: seven newsletter, M Andrew. Let's let's start with this, Okay, 508 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: why do they have to call the workout voluntary workouts? 509 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: They just had a CBA agreement. It's ten for the 510 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: next ten years. Right, labor piece has finally been reached 511 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: for the next decade. Why didn't they address this to 512 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: where the voluntary involuntary thing was never was not an issue. Yeah, 513 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: good morning, Doug. I mean, this is all the union's priority, 514 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: going back, like you said, eleven years from twenty and ten. 515 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: What we saw in the twenty eleven CBA was to 516 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: Maury Smith and union leadership making off season time off 517 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: a priority, which really really meant for less workouts. You know, 518 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: before that it was probably thirteen fourteen weeks in the 519 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: off season. Then it went down to seven to nine 520 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: weeks in the off season with Phase one, Phase two, 521 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: Phase three. But now it looks like they want to 522 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: get rid of it all together, at least from the 523 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: union priority, and make voluntary truly voluntary. I mean, I 524 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: think it's it's a noble idea idea basically that hey, 525 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: look we had this great season with COVID. Look what 526 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: we did and fewer injuries, quality of play was great. 527 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: But we're kind of in a different setting nationally with 528 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: the virus. So I'm not sure what the point is 529 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: of the union saying that, hey, we got to do 530 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: this again because we still got the virus around. When 531 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: the league is saying we're going to deal with vaccines, 532 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: We're going to get the virus handled. So we just 533 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: want this off season to be normal like it usually is. Well, 534 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: I think it's the union's inability to really get what 535 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: it wanted. And I think Andrew what your points are 536 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: well taken. But obviously there's an issue. Otherwise everybody would 537 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: be showing up to voluntary training camp or you know 538 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, workouts. So this some bigger there that 539 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: players don't want to go period, because it can't be 540 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: just about the COVID, So so there's another issue there. 541 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: It seems really really weird that where things are in 542 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: the country as far as dealing with COVID, that this 543 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: would be the issue, you know, as we go. Yeah, 544 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean listen, because listen, Rob, And does you know 545 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: from a year ago how critical I was of the CBA. 546 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: I just I thought the players didn't get adequate concessions 547 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: for one and eleven year deal to a deal that 548 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: only rises to a revenue share of forty eight percent 549 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: and three gives up the precious inventory of a seventeenth game. 550 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: And I'm sort of left with what's going on now? 551 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: Thinking wow, why it could the union have put the 552 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: same commitment into fighting a seventeenth game, getting a fifty 553 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: fifty split, getting a five year CBA instead of a 554 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: ten years. I mean, all the things they've put a 555 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: push for, and it's really off season workouts, well just that. 556 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: But why are they doing this now when the deal 557 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: is already agreed to? Right, Like we've all done contracts before, 558 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: and once the deal is signed, the deal is signed, 559 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: you're like, sorry, deal is signed. Well, they're what they're 560 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: doing is they're trying to reimpose COVID again when we're 561 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: in a different age of COVID. The other part of 562 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: it is they really want players to understand, which they've 563 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: never understood in thirty years, that voluntary means voluntary. And 564 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: that's because the business of football. I mean, you tell 565 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: sixty percent of your team that it's voluntary. The forty 566 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: percent who are stars and don't don't need it, but 567 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: sixty percent it's like, you know, your your boss tells 568 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: twenty people in the in the first second third year 569 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: class of the law firm, Hey we're going to be 570 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: here Saturday working, but it's voluntary, right, play. Yeah, yeah, 571 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: you're you come. If you're a fringe player, middle player, 572 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: rank and file player, that's always been the way it is. 573 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: You show up. That's also why the union is weak 574 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: because sixty percent of the players in the union don't 575 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: know if they're going to be playing next year, so 576 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: they take whatever is thrown at them. And the other 577 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: players who know that they're going to be around for 578 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: ten years are fighting against these other things, and that's 579 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: why the union is has no power. Well, and here's 580 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: two there's two buckets of money we're talking about. The 581 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: big bucket is the offseason workout bonuses, which you know, 582 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: the Packers can can blame me because they've got five 583 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: million of bonuses through the team. And I started that 584 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: ten years ago, fifteen years ago when I saw no 585 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: one was coming to Green Bay in the offseason, and 586 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: I said, we got to have people here, and I 587 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: gotta make it financially worth it for them to be here. 588 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 1: So if the guy was making a million, I'd say, 589 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: you're making nine hundred, and you're making a hundred workout, 590 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: And I changed all the contracts and now teams like 591 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: that are not going to follow the union's advice. Here 592 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: they're just not. The other bucket of money is two hundred, 593 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy dollars a day for working out, 594 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: plus your meals, plus the high class facilities, plus your 595 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: trainers and equipment and strength. Guys, that's what you're doing. 596 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: Two hundred and thirty five a day. Again, the stars 597 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: that don'tminating to them, but it means a lot to 598 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: most of the players. Andrew Brandt joining US columnist Si 599 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: host the Business Sports podcasting creator of the Sunday seven 600 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: news letter Course from Remember the Front Office with the 601 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: Eagles and with the Packers. I want to ask you 602 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: about a story that came out earlier this week in 603 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: The Athletic about the dysfunction within within the Philadelphia Eagles, 604 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: and it painted a picture of an owner who likes 605 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: to make some football decisions. Howie Roseman, who is has 606 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: has tied himself right to the owner after being you know, 607 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: kind of pushed away and shunned. Going back to the 608 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly era and a former head coach who felt 609 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: paralyzed by the fact that every decision he made, in 610 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: every decision his coaching staff made, was questioned and made 611 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: to feel uncomfortable. Not only have you been in Philadelphia, 612 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: but you've been around the NFL. First thing is when 613 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: you read the article, did you believe it was an 614 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: accurate portrayal of what you've heard Philadelphia has looked like 615 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Yeah, I think so. I 616 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: think you hinted at it there. This is not your 617 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: typical owner GM relationship that's non family, because it's more family. 618 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: It's almost like Robert Craft and Jonathan Craft. Howary Roseman 619 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: has become much more than a GM to Jeffrey Lory. 620 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: And you know, we can have a lot of psychologists 621 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: talk about why, but you're right, through Chip Kelly, through 622 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, through Andy Reid, through everyone, he has stayed 623 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: because Lorie trusts him, Lourie likes his institutional knowledge of 624 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: the league, and Lorie likes the way he manages the 625 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: analytics and all those kind of things. But you're yes, 626 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: I saw this kind of bucking up of the coaching field, 627 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson versus the analytical nerds that people talk about 628 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: approach to football. And it got to the point where 629 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson in January had two meetings, not one, two 630 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: with Lourie Who's suggesting this and that and that and 631 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: then and I think at the end of the day, 632 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson said, screw this, I'm out, you know. And 633 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: it's really a situation where I think I think it changed. 634 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: I think when they're Super Bowl year, everything's great. But 635 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: when they started having some some some disappointment on the field, 636 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, do this, do this, do this, And 637 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: at some point coaches say, Jesus, I'm out. You know, 638 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: I can't handle this. So the micro managing it has come. Yes, 639 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: sorry about that. Uh, Julian Edelman has retired from the Patriots. 640 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 1: Of course, a debate broke out because everybody, now, when 641 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: you retire, everybody's going to the Hall of Fame, no 642 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: matter what. Uh no Pro Bowls, never at all? Pro 643 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: Uh did win three Super Bowls? Was a Super Bowl MVP? Uh? 644 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: Do you think he's a Hall of Famer? Rob? Are 645 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: you talking a wrong guy? I'm just I'm kind of 646 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 1: one of those. Uh. Why are we talking about Hall 647 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: of Fame white when the guy retires? I guess because 648 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: that's what that's where we are in this world. I'm 649 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: with you, because even LaMarcus LaMarcus Aldridge right retired with 650 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: the regular heartbeat. First thing is is he going to 651 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: be Is he going to the Hall of Fame? And 652 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm just like, like really, like, I just I'm shocked 653 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: by this, but I just want to hear what would take. 654 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: I think it's my take is on the Hall of 655 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: Fame because in football, I don't know how you do 656 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: it because every player is eleven players. No player plays 657 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: more than half the game. It's like, I mean, here's 658 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: the queer. Here's the thing. If Julian Edelman did exactly 659 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: what he did stats wise on a team that didn't 660 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: win Super Bowls, the answer is no, right, But he 661 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: did it on team a team that won Super Bowls? 662 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: So should that elevate him? I don't know. Maybe here 663 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: here's the other part. He tested positive for peed use. 664 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: In baseball, they're keeping Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens out, 665 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, in football, it doesn't seem to 666 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: bother me. No. I think I think it does. I 667 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: think it works. I think it works against I think 668 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: it's gonna work a lot against a lot of guys. 669 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: Will it work against the Andrew in football? I think so. 670 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you get these sports writers to 671 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: gather in a room and one guy is biased to 672 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: make a presentation, and the other guy he tries to 673 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: get everyone else biased. I mean, I just don't understand 674 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: the process. But I'm in the minority there. I get 675 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: my thing though, Andrew is and and again, when you 676 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: like you're doing I remember you're doing contracts in the 677 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: NFL with the Eagles and with and with and with 678 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: the Packers, and you're part of the discussions where it's like, Okay, 679 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: you have the stars, but there's also stars that help 680 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: you win games. Right, every team is a guy. And 681 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: I totally agree they didn't win super Bowls, but the 682 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: fact was that they did and that they were always competitive, 683 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: and that guy always seemed to make be a part 684 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: of a big play, and he did a little bit 685 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: of everything. And I just it's like, Eli, man, he's 686 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: going to going to the Hall of Fame because of 687 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: what he did in the postseason, the top top ten 688 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: in touchdown and passing yards, and he also beat the 689 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: eighteen and old Patriots, and he won two super bowl 690 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: in the play don't make it, no, don't don't play us, 691 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: don't play. But but but was he the way? Way 692 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: was he the reason that they won the Super Bradies 693 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: the goat He'd beat Tom Brady twice, and you're gonna 694 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: say the pair pass rush dominated hold on, their pass 695 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: rush dominated that game. I'm gonna use I'm gonna use 696 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: your own argument against you. I'll use your own army 697 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: to get against you. Here. Okay, here's your own argument, 698 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: rob Okay. So by your argument that because Eli Manning 699 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: won the Super who was the super Blann VP this year? 700 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: What Tom Brady? I mean this year? Yeah, Tom Brady? Okay, 701 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: who dominated the game? Who won the game? For the defense? 702 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: I get the Okay, it's the exact same thing. It 703 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: ain't the same thing, because look at what Eli Manning 704 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: has two signature throws and both of those Super Bowls 705 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: that run two of them, and and don't get me 706 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: one way he threw it. One way. He threw it 707 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: up for grabbing a guy called him. You see him 708 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: elude the defense to make that play. Elude the defense, 709 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,959 Speaker 1: not not get not get in the grass rule again, 710 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: you're what you're I'm using your own argument against you 711 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: to prove how bad it is. But the game over 712 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: on that throw? Or did he have to throw a 713 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: touchdown to win the game with the game over on 714 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: that throw? You just said, no, the defense dominated the game. 715 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: That's what happened this year in the Super Bowl. The 716 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: same thing happened in the Super Bowl this year. You 717 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: never want to give Tom Brady credit, but you want 718 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 1: to give you want to give you light Manning credit. 719 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: It's it's a ridiculous argument that you're making, And the 720 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: one I'm making is the one I'm trying to have 721 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: a conversation with Andrew about, which is, Hey, look, I 722 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 1: get it. I get that he's not a superstar wide receiver. 723 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: That he's not Randy Moss can't line him up out 724 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: wide and throw the ball up to him and win 725 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: you the game for him. But Bro in those in 726 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: the biggest of games, that guy came through always seem 727 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: to come through, even and West Poker was probably a 728 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: better player and a better slot wide receiver and a 729 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: more dominant regular season player. And I don't know if 730 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: he should be in the Hall of Fame, but I 731 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: do think that, And having been in front offices, you 732 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: know that there are guys that have value far more 733 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: above what they make or what their their position says 734 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: they can make, because they help you win games. And 735 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: that's what Julian him is. Yeah, there's no question There's 736 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: no question that we would look at guys in contract 737 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: negotiations and say, this guy shoots up the work ethic 738 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: and character of that position group. Not the most talented, 739 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: not our best player, but you put them in that 740 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: group of cornerbacks, that group of defensive linemen, that group 741 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: of tight ends, and that work ethic and character of 742 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 1: that group just shoots up, and we say we gotta 743 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: pay this guy. He makes a difference on our team. 744 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: And maybe Edelman is that type of player. But absolutely 745 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: what you said is true. Andrew Brandt joining us here. Okay, 746 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,720 Speaker 1: so Andrew, the second part of the of the Eagles 747 00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: question is this. You mentioned that relationship, the dysfunction within it. Look, 748 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: you haven't been in every front office, but you know, 749 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: how is that a snapshot of just the Eagles or 750 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: other teams similarly dysfunctional. Well, I think the analytics piece 751 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: is key here because they do talk a lot about 752 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: Alec Hallibey, who I know is the PhD that works 753 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: in the back room. And here's the problem. Everyone says 754 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: they're buying into analytics, and the owners and the gms 755 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot of times are into it. But that's not 756 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: the problem. The problem with analytics is getting buy in 757 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: from the old guard and most coaches. Most coaches are 758 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: old guard. Most coaches do not want to be told 759 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: played by the percentages. Ignore Gutfield, nor your emotion, more 760 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: your your sense of what to call here, what to play, 761 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: who to play. And that's a problem. I think that's 762 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, we talk about a young group of coaches, 763 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: the Sean mcvay's, the Matt Lafleurs. I mean, I think 764 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: they're looking at it and saying, yeah, we can incorporate that. 765 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, they're coaches. And 766 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the dispute we have. Now you have 767 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: analytics involved, but it's great, You've got a lot of 768 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: people buying in. You're hiring people in the back offices. 769 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: But are the coaches really buying into it? No, they're 770 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: forced it to it. Some of these guys. Some some 771 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: are Andrew Tampa Bay. They took out Blake Snell's pitching 772 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: a no hitter in the World Series because you know, 773 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: the third time around, people hit him, hit him better. Andrew, 774 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: you know that, despite what he was doing that night 775 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: in an elimination game against the Dodgers. That's where analytics 776 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: is bad. Doug and those I think that I agree, 777 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: I agree, but you're talking about football there are you know, 778 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: the Bills are famous for working too well a lot 779 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers hands because they figured that, oh no, 780 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: we'll we'll take the field goal here and then well, 781 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't think and Andrew, maybe 782 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: you can speak to this. I don't think that was analytic. 783 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: I think that was a coach that was out of place. 784 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: That's what it felt like to me, that he was 785 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: a coach that you gotta have a plan because you 786 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: had to have plan out just to score, but also 787 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: to go for two. I felt like Matt Laflour was 788 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: out of place. I don't think that was the analytics 789 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: department getting in the year. Yeah, I mean, I think 790 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: that was a tough situation where he saw us I say, 791 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: he saw a third and long not work, and now 792 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: it was fourth and long, not fourth and three, not 793 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: fourth and four, And it wasn't a gut field. It 794 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: was the opposite of analytics. It was like, yeah, I 795 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get the points. Andrew Brandt joining us Andrew, 796 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: great stuff as always, man, thanks for being our guest. 797 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Enjoyed that. Sorry, Dad, Thanks for listening 798 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 799 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 800 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 801 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 802 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. Rob Did you did 803 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: you see what happened with the NFL yesterday? In terms 804 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: of gambling? So gambling's not legal in every state, I'm 805 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: sure essentially it soon will be, most right, Yeah, Okay, 806 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: So what they did was Caesar's is like the official 807 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: gambling partner of the NFL, and many stadiums you'll be 808 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: able to do in stadium gambling. It's one of the things, 809 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: you know, one of the challenges in twenty twenty one 810 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: and beyond. It's not just because of the pandemic and 811 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: we stopped going to games, but it was already kind 812 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: of a trend in an issue getting people to actually 813 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: go to NFL games when you can only watch one 814 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: right as opposed to all the other games going on anyway. 815 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: So one of the right ways they're going to come 816 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: at that is in stadium in game live gambling where 817 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: it's legal thanks to the folks at Caesar's So yesterday, 818 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: fan duel and draft Kings both got different pieces of 819 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: the pie. And so here's basically the point I would make. 820 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: There isn't any question that Roger Goodell and some of 821 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: the way, some of the heavy handed us with some 822 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: of his punishments, some of the ways in which he's 823 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: handled the player discipline policy, like all of those, he's 824 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: butchered some of that. I'm we're not blind to that. 825 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: But the guy is going to leave office as a 826 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: commissioner of a sport which not only survived but thrived 827 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: during the pandemic and came out of the pandemic with 828 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: television deals with every major network that's never happened before. Okay, 829 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: it'll be on CBS, NBC, Fox, ABC, ESPN, the NFL 830 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: network and beyond all of those. In addition, in addition, 831 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: it's it's one thing he's amazing at. It's like what 832 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: he did with Thursday Night Football. It's not just that 833 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 1: they split up the rights, the gambling rights. It's that 834 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: they split up and got the value, the standalone value 835 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: for all of these rights. Like that's what's crazy about it. 836 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: He got almost double the money for all the TV rights, 837 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: and it's not like the TV the numbers have been skyrocketing. 838 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: He just but Doug before you pat him on the 839 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: back and make him like he's some sports commissioner genius. 840 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: I think I think you're being shortsighted. First of all, 841 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: on television. And you know this because you're in a 842 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 1: television business. The only thing that's valuable property is live 843 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 1: sporting events because people don't watch television. Where appointment television. 844 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: I talk to you about watching Seinfeld every Thursday night 845 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. Nobody watches TV. So sports events, despite 846 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: the numbers, are still the most coveted thing. It has 847 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Roger Goodell. The gambling aspect, yes, 848 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: people are willing to pay. They're so desperate that they're 849 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: willing to pay even though they didn't get exclusive rights. Again, 850 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Roger Goodell. They're looking at the 851 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: long term that gambling eventually will be a national thing. 852 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: So while I think anybody sitting in that chair would 853 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: have been able to make very comparable I'm not saying exactly. 854 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he didn't do anything dug So 855 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. But to act as if this 856 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: is Roger Goodell and he just did a three card 857 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: Monty and he fooled somebody into having people pay for 858 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: the TV rights or gambling. I just think it's crazy. 859 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: When I think of Roger Goodell, I think of all 860 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: the missteps and the way that he's hurt the league, 861 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: the way he treated Colin Kaepernick, the Ray Rice, Robert 862 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: Kraft got off, but Terrell Pryor got suspended for getting 863 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: tattoos at Ohio State. I could go on and on 864 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: and on how this guy has mishandled the job. A 865 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: spy Gate where he deleted he had the tapes destroyed. 866 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: We never got to see him to flake Gate. Some 867 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: people say that they railroaded Tom Brady. We could go 868 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: on and on and on all of his achievements. You 869 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: want to pat him on the back. I have a 870 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: list as three times as long at what a terrible 871 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: job he's been as commission of the NFL's his What 872 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: is his actual job? I'm just telling you what did 873 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: his job? No, what is his actual job? What do 874 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: you mean? What is his job? It's it's a lot 875 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: of things. It's about discipline, it's about protecting the shield, 876 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 1: it's about TV contracts, It's about a lot of things, Okay, 877 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: So protecting the shield so that you protect the value 878 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: of the product, right, and the discipline just your ware. 879 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: Like his discipline has been more heavy handed than any 880 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: previous commissioner, and a lot of that is our reaction 881 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: as the media, like that's not enough. Like he write 882 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: a two game suspension which was watched the tape, Hold on, 883 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: hold on a second. Okay, that was the longest suspension 884 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: anyone had ever gotten for domestic violence. So did he 885 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: watch the videotape in the elevator? How can you give 886 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: out a suspension without watching the tape? I thought he 887 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: didn't have the tape. They didn't have the tape, And 888 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, you can, you can. You 889 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 1: can give it like our our own Apple tight for 890 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: a commissioner stepping in and having the player discident policy 891 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: changed during his tenure. So look, I'm not apologizing for that. 892 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you his job is to make money for 893 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: the league, and he is absolutely killing him. 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