Speaker 1: Guys. So much happens in episode four, actutely titled Crash
Speaker 1: into You because crash, but I think the car crashing no,
Speaker 1: don't go bad, Okay, crash into You is? Is this
Speaker 1: an episode where Haley convinces Lucas to go with the
Speaker 1: team to a party at Nathan's beach house, hoping that
Speaker 1: the guys will become friendlier, which obviously it's not going
Speaker 1: to happen. I think the car crash of my heart
Speaker 1: is our finally being able to see deb Scott, Barbara
Speaker 1: Alan Woods. She is such a babe, such a babe,
Speaker 1: and such a good mom, such a good mom, like
Speaker 1: really trying to you know. She sees the problem with
Speaker 1: her son. She doesn't quite how to fix it, but
Speaker 1: she sees it. And she's not just like going along
Speaker 1: with every craziness that Dan is showing us. Well, and
Speaker 1: how like Dan Scott has been situated firmly in this
Speaker 1: show so to find a woman to go toe to
Speaker 1: toe with him but also still like kiss him in
Speaker 1: the kitchen. You know, she is able to do that
Speaker 1: with such ease, you know. And she came into a
Speaker 1: cast that was already working together, it's right, and they
Speaker 1: did such a beautiful job of establishing I forgot that
Speaker 1: there was intimacy between Dan and Death, like the way
Speaker 1: they hug each other in the kitchen and he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: is that my wife? And there's this whole dynamic and
Speaker 1: and Barb played so many levels in this episode so
Speaker 1: flawlessly to to have that romance with him, to challenge
Speaker 1: him to be observing her, her changing teenage son, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, when she calls him surly, Do you feel
Speaker 1: like our parents ever said that about us? Surly? It
Speaker 1: was a tall order for the character of deb though,
Speaker 1: to be able to walk that line, to tow that
Speaker 1: line of understanding why this woman would have married and
Speaker 1: stayed with this man, and yet having her be sympathetic
Speaker 1: and watching her walk walk into Karen's cafe and handle
Speaker 1: that situation and just extend that all the branch in
Speaker 1: the sort of awkward way that you know she did
Speaker 1: and that grown ups would That was tough. I feel
Speaker 1: like I could see when she walked in and she's
Speaker 1: like a coffee oh uh and a b scotti, and
Speaker 1: then she goes to leave, and You're like, oh no,
Speaker 1: she's losing it. She's losing it. She's chickening. Out and
Speaker 1: then they suddenly have this beautiful conversation. I mean, really,
Speaker 1: what we are is the Barbara Allen Woods fan club.
Speaker 1: She wears the pants in this episode, which which you
Speaker 1: know watching it as an adult lady, Now I'm like, yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: put on as an adult. What hit me was their
Speaker 1: whole conversation when she talks about how Nathan is is
Speaker 1: obviously suffering or struggling, and Dan tries to blame her
Speaker 1: and says it's because you're working and you're gone, and
Speaker 1: she says, I'm gone at max ten days a month,
Speaker 1: and and he's pressuring her if you were home, if
Speaker 1: you spent more time with him, and she claims her identity,
Speaker 1: her career, that she deserves to have both to be
Speaker 1: a mom, to have a job, to be working, to travel,
Speaker 1: like she really defends herself as an individual woman who's
Speaker 1: also a mother. And I didn't catch that in two
Speaker 1: thousand three. No, I didn't either, but she did. She
Speaker 1: did such a badass job of that well. And the
Speaker 1: only two people that see Nathan's vulnerabilities ever are deb
Speaker 1: and Haley. I mean the scenes going scene to scene
Speaker 1: where he's so sweet with you, Joy, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you and him in the car or just darling, and
Speaker 1: then and then to see him become such a jackass
Speaker 1: in the next scene. But it's just what we were
Speaker 1: saying when we were watching back was that it's only
Speaker 1: Jane could do this, because James intrinsically is just such
Speaker 1: a great person, such a good man, that he managed
Speaker 1: to play this character that was such a jerk and
Speaker 1: so confused because of what he's been taught by his parents,
Speaker 1: and yet still be vulnerable and it was still kind
Speaker 1: of manipulate if he was using his vulnerability even though
Speaker 1: he was being honest to manipulate hatey. But it doesn't
Speaker 1: come off as sociopathic. Yeah, he just comes off as
Speaker 1: confused because I think a lot of guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: think about the guys that are like on TV right
Speaker 1: now or whatever in those shows, like it would have
Speaker 1: been hard to cast someone absolutely and I think if
Speaker 1: you'd cast someone who in real life was a dick
Speaker 1: or was a manipulator, you just there would have been
Speaker 1: no redemption for Nathan and what and James bringing himself
Speaker 1: to that part and his his kindness and his grounded nous,
Speaker 1: It's like you could see through the Nathan Scott armor
Speaker 1: and in way. It let him play someone who was
Speaker 1: cruel better than I've seen most villains be villains. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you really felt I felt bad for him. It's the
Speaker 1: Brook thing from last episode. You know, it's like, here's
Speaker 1: all my bravado. I'm gonna be real hard and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say things that are shocking. Um. And then also
Speaker 1: but inside, I'm I just want somebody to hug me.
Speaker 1: These are kids that didn't get hugged enough. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and there's something about that, Oh God, like talk about
Speaker 1: a cringe moment in this episode. You know, the game ends,
Speaker 1: and then Nathan invites Lucas to this party, right, we
Speaker 1: think it's an olive branch and everybody's there, and and
Speaker 1: you know, Haley and Lucas show up in the tow truck,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's the pretend meat and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, What's gonna happen? And then we start
Speaker 1: playing Never have I ever actually play that in high school? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think that I had never really been to
Speaker 1: a house party. I think once in my life I
Speaker 1: just was I was a really I had an interesting childhood,
Speaker 1: but drinking champagne joy Yeah, you were like a working actor.
Speaker 1: Not when I was fifteen and sixteen, I was still
Speaker 1: like in high school, just normal neighborhood kid, and I
Speaker 1: hadn't been to I remember shooting that scene and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: so this is what a house party feels. Really. What
Speaker 1: was your typical weekend in high school? Like, what did
Speaker 1: that look like for each of you guys? I just
Speaker 1: hung out with friends and I was usually involved in
Speaker 1: some kind of theater, something was going on with with
Speaker 1: the arts. Um, yeah, ride my bike. I mean my
Speaker 1: parents were it was very eighties parenting, like go here,
Speaker 1: here's a stick, here's your bike here, like go outside
Speaker 1: of you, like out in California. You guys going to
Speaker 1: beach parties. No, oh my gosh, that's like so funny
Speaker 1: to me. I rarely, I really ever went to the
Speaker 1: beach once my family was in Pasadena. It's just like
Speaker 1: traffic here is horrible. Um. But but similarly, joy, you know,
Speaker 1: I was, I was doing a lot of theater and
Speaker 1: so I was always you know, in a play at
Speaker 1: a rehearsal. And my school was so small and being
Speaker 1: an all girls school, you know, we we didn't bring
Speaker 1: boys from the all boys schools in the neighborhood in
Speaker 1: so we played all the parts. Um yeah, the girls
Speaker 1: played everything, our our our theater director and Sophia that
Speaker 1: informs so much about who you are. Tell me, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I like slipped back my hair like Charlotte and that
Speaker 1: sex in the City episode when she gets her portrait
Speaker 1: taken like a man. Um Oh, I loved it. I
Speaker 1: loved it. And it was actually really interesting. We had
Speaker 1: this incredible theater director, this man named Tim Wright, who
Speaker 1: is unfortunately no longer with us, who honestly changed my
Speaker 1: life and taught me so much about storytelling. And you know,
Speaker 1: he taught us about historical Shakespeare and how at the
Speaker 1: time it was thought to be scandalous to have a
Speaker 1: woman in the theater, so back then the men played
Speaker 1: women's parts. And he was talking about this sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, honestly reclamation of the theatrical space with all
Speaker 1: of us as women playing all these parts and doing
Speaker 1: all the tech and learning how to light. And I
Speaker 1: was the prop master on so many plays and it
Speaker 1: was so fun. And then my senior year we kind
Speaker 1: of had a more typical experience. Um, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I think because people finally had driver's licenses, and you know,
Speaker 1: we all finally um could be mobile, and we started,
Speaker 1: like my one of my friends and I started dating
Speaker 1: these two best friends. I had been in love with
Speaker 1: my you know, childhood sweetheart from camp since I was nine,
Speaker 1: and then my senior year in high school, I started
Speaker 1: dating this boy. He looked exactly like Paul Walker, good God,
Speaker 1: and him and his best friend went to an all
Speaker 1: boys school on the West Side, and so then it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, We're going to see our boyfriends at
Speaker 1: a West Side party tonight, and we well, we were
Speaker 1: so innocent and silly, but we felt like grown ups,
Speaker 1: like the way I think we were saying we felt
Speaker 1: when we got to Wilmington's and we looked back and
Speaker 1: we're like, oh my god, we were babies, but like
Speaker 1: we thought we knew what we were doing. My senior
Speaker 1: year in high school, I was like, I am like
Speaker 1: officially a teenager anything, but I would go to these
Speaker 1: we would have these house parties, um that the boys
Speaker 1: would throw, and we felt so cool, and really we
Speaker 1: just stood around and like everyone was staring at each
Speaker 1: other trying to figure out who was going to talk first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do we know? How does this work? Virgin was
Speaker 1: all house parties. You guys like football games, basketball games, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Did we do it for soccer in
Speaker 1: the spring? Probably not? Um track team, Oh, the track
Speaker 1: team was hot. We track team had parties. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about this. Any excuse, right, excuse in Virginia
Speaker 1: to have a house party was happening, and so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of house parties. I remember, like my boyfriend
Speaker 1: in high school was a bad kid, and I remember
Speaker 1: being in a basement and someone was smuggling alcohol through
Speaker 1: the basement window and those little narrow windows at the top.
Speaker 1: Me being the clean teen at the party, and like
Speaker 1: head of the clean is like, who is doing this?
Speaker 1: And it's my boyfriend and he we were like went
Speaker 1: into the tree house in the backyard and had a
Speaker 1: very like Nathan Haley conversation where I was like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Are you just trying to be cool
Speaker 1: for these people? And he was like, Babe, I'm only
Speaker 1: drinking orange juice. And now I know he's like totally
Speaker 1: spiked with the podcast, but at the time I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess that's not so bad. But when we shot
Speaker 1: this stuff, I remember being all high on my horse
Speaker 1: like why are all the lights on? This is a
Speaker 1: dumb party? And Rand like this, how you knew? You
Speaker 1: know what? You know what? And I have to say,
Speaker 1: the star of the episode was Peyton. Peyton was the
Speaker 1: star of this episode front because in that same way
Speaker 1: of knowing, of just like having the ability to see
Speaker 1: beyond what what's going on directly around you. But I
Speaker 1: don't know a lot of kids that we're that introspective
Speaker 1: in high school and capable of asking questions like are
Speaker 1: we going to turn out like deb and Karen? I mean,
Speaker 1: what high schooler has the wherewithal to ask themselves that question?
Speaker 1: And I love that about Peyton. I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the major things that the audience connected with about
Speaker 1: her and the wherewith all as well. In that breakup
Speaker 1: scene with Nathan, to stand so firmly in yourself and
Speaker 1: he's trying to, you know, do the like oh baby,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry business, and when you say you basically call
Speaker 1: Nathan out for his behavior with Haley, and you say,
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing there is messed up. And if you
Speaker 1: aren't doing something there, it's messed up essentially because you're
Speaker 1: stringing her along, and for a girl in high school,
Speaker 1: to look at her boyfriend and say, you're either flirting
Speaker 1: with that girl for real, or you're flirting with her
Speaker 1: to manipulate her. In either way, you're a bad guy.
Speaker 1: That's not something, especially in that era, that we were
Speaker 1: encouraged to do. It was like, who's flirting with my boyfriend?
Speaker 1: It wasn't maybe he's a bad dude. I wonder what
Speaker 1: made them strike that tone in this episode because dem
Speaker 1: is not threatened or weirded out by Karen and Peyton's
Speaker 1: not threatened or weirded out by Haley. Um. They were
Speaker 1: clearly trying to make a strong note about like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're not in competition with one another, that it's such
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. And then I'm like, well what happened?
Speaker 1: Because I was when did we start calling each other whores?
Speaker 1: As like terms of my dear man on the show?
Speaker 1: You know, it's a weird deal. You know. The whole
Speaker 1: vibrator thing made us all like, ubar, did you were
Speaker 1: you like that in high school? Though? Hillary? Um, with
Speaker 1: that that introspective and the ability to stand up and
Speaker 1: tell people what's what? And I mean was that in
Speaker 1: you I was super confrontational. Um. I think that the
Speaker 1: things that were more important to me in high school
Speaker 1: were um like like the movie Boys Don't Cry came
Speaker 1: out and Girl Interrupted came out and I read the
Speaker 1: bell jar and so there was like a firestorm of
Speaker 1: teenage girl mental health. Um also like gay straight alliance
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. All of that stuff was very important
Speaker 1: to me. And I knew that I was leaving for
Speaker 1: New York, so it didn't matter who I piste off.
Speaker 1: And and and I feel like Peyton has her friendship
Speaker 1: with Brooke but isn't really connected to anyone else, so
Speaker 1: might also carry a lot of that, like we don't
Speaker 1: care who we piss off. It's interesting because I realized that.
Speaker 1: And and this is something I've been you know, learning
Speaker 1: to expand for myself, even as an adult. But when
Speaker 1: I think back, it's always been really easy for me,
Speaker 1: on behalf of others to not care who I piss off,
Speaker 1: to defend people, to stand up for people, but not
Speaker 1: to do it for myself. And I I think I
Speaker 1: really see some of that in Brooke. You know, we
Speaker 1: were all talking about this after the last episode. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Hillary, you said it, you said, I always
Speaker 1: got the sense that Brooke was actually a virgin and
Speaker 1: I think so too, And I think that that what
Speaker 1: what resonated with me about her was a girl who
Speaker 1: only was taught to validate herself by other people's opinions
Speaker 1: and by charming other people and by being attractive to boys,
Speaker 1: and so she would make herself the butt of the joke,
Speaker 1: like she bit on the vibrator joke. And then that's
Speaker 1: a horrible thing to say. She took the bait. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry she took the bait on that joke. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have a coffee, I'll drink this. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: she took she took the bait on that, And then
Speaker 1: I think, like the sort of shame and the desire
Speaker 1: to be liked. Then she leans into it and goes, okay,
Speaker 1: so you know my turn. Never have I ever Oh no,
Speaker 1: I did that to make everyone laugh, And and that
Speaker 1: moment of saying it and then looking around to see
Speaker 1: if people thought it was funny, like seeing myself make
Speaker 1: that choice for her then really broke my heart. Just again,
Speaker 1: such good casting, because it would have been easy to
Speaker 1: do that, you know, there's it just would have been
Speaker 1: easy to play it the other way and one dimensional
Speaker 1: and just you know, but you really had that you
Speaker 1: know what you were doing? Thanks, Yeah, She's list And
Speaker 1: that's what I want viewers to do in this rewatch
Speaker 1: is to question every choice, like was Brooke Davis really
Speaker 1: fast and easy? You know, like like what is the
Speaker 1: reality of these things? Because what we're saying is one thing,
Speaker 1: But how we're behaving that's what we were able to control.
Speaker 1: You couldn't control the dialogue, but how we said you're right,
Speaker 1: that's where we could find our power. Like we couldn't
Speaker 1: get away from some of the things that were written
Speaker 1: for us to do, but there were moments where we
Speaker 1: could be more ourselves, moments where we could subvert the
Speaker 1: obvious and and it I will say it means so
Speaker 1: much to all of us, with all you listening at home,
Speaker 1: those have always been the moments that the fans have
Speaker 1: loved the most. And and I love that we were
Speaker 1: able to, even in the midst of trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what the hell we were doing, like fun and
Speaker 1: these find these moments. I want to talk about Joy's hat. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: will you tell people what the backstory of the hat is?
Speaker 1: Come on, okay, look here I have to I have
Speaker 1: to preface this by saying that there is a possibility
Speaker 1: that I've created this scenario in my mind because I
Speaker 1: hated the hat so much. But I don't think. What
Speaker 1: I remember my recollection of this is that I was
Speaker 1: given this hat. I did not like this hat. I
Speaker 1: hated this hat. I was given this hat and told
Speaker 1: you have to wear this hat. And I was told
Speaker 1: later UM that the person who chose the hat for me,
Speaker 1: UM chose it because it looked like a penis hat,
Speaker 1: like the top of a penis, and they thought it
Speaker 1: was literally on it. Yeah, and they thought it was
Speaker 1: funny to make Hayley look like she was like had
Speaker 1: her head had like a penis on her head. I
Speaker 1: and I hated the hat so much. Did they tell
Speaker 1: you this right away? It wasn't way later. It was
Speaker 1: way later because it would always pop up and we'd
Speaker 1: see images of it. Because it's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: why this hat keeps showing up. I keep see I
Speaker 1: see photos of it for years. I've seen like it's
Speaker 1: the because it's so terrible. I think probably it's like well,
Speaker 1: and also there's that beautiful scene with the two of
Speaker 1: you in the car. You know, we've talked about it
Speaker 1: from Nathan's side, But what you the vulnerability that Haley
Speaker 1: leans into and the softness that you gave her, and
Speaker 1: the humor and the cracking jokes, but also the bashfulness.
Speaker 1: It was so innocent and beautiful, right, She's bashful and
Speaker 1: it happens in that freaking hat for a lot of it.
Speaker 1: A lot of it happens in the hat and then
Speaker 1: you know, you finally take it off on the car ride.
Speaker 1: But I think that's part of it because it's the
Speaker 1: that's where the seed of Nathan and Haley was planted,
Speaker 1: was in freaking hat. Yeah, does the same? Do you
Speaker 1: take the hat off? It's like it's like she's all that,
Speaker 1: you know, Like you're a beautiful girl. Your chin in
Speaker 1: that car sane joy, just your little like chin dimple
Speaker 1: and your little pout and you're like your eyes and
Speaker 1: you can tell that you're listening to him, like you're
Speaker 1: really listening. It is so like Aerial from Little Mermaid
Speaker 1: and the Red Hair. They needed the hat to like
Speaker 1: dress you down, you know, so it's not so on
Speaker 1: the nose and like these two are going to end
Speaker 1: up together. All they could do is put a stupid
Speaker 1: hat on when they put Rachel Lee cook in glasses, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I think. I mean, it could have just
Speaker 1: been that, and then maybe the penis story came up later.
Speaker 1: I mean that also could have been them like editing
Speaker 1: history where after they watch it and Daily's they're like,
Speaker 1: she looks like a dick. It could have been. It
Speaker 1: could have been. But I did love the show pop up.
Speaker 1: I remember them about the poncho. That was the other thing,
Speaker 1: the poncho. I think I chose the poncho. I think
Speaker 1: that was my choice, my bad choice. I made some
Speaker 1: very questionable wardrobe choices throughout the years, but I guess
Speaker 1: it always kind of worked for Haley. Ma'am. I was
Speaker 1: wearing a buckle across my chest in this episode, So
Speaker 1: tell me about it. You gotta keep those things locked up,
Speaker 1: my god, Like I buckled myself into my shirt for
Speaker 1: what Yeah, nineties nineties fashion left it like kept kept
Speaker 1: creeping into the two thousands. Yeah, the tail end was
Speaker 1: really brutal. M hmm. I like that you and Sarah Edwards,
Speaker 1: who played Teresa, were kind of wearing the same thing.
Speaker 1: It was tells a story that all the cheerleaders have
Speaker 1: a uniform um and then they put Peyton in a turtleneck.
Speaker 1: You know, how can we be the antithesis of this um?
Speaker 1: It also kind of put Brooke in the queen bee
Speaker 1: category that she was and that like there was. It
Speaker 1: just subconsciously put a little like want to be like her?
Speaker 1: You know, that's so interesting. We had your cronies. Best crony.
Speaker 1: Best crony of the episode goes to Tim Brett that
Speaker 1: he really had that Joey Triviani thing going on. Yes,
Speaker 1: he is so good and like we all thought he
Speaker 1: was so funny then, but as an adult to watch him,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, his comic timing is just so on
Speaker 1: point at the door, you're caught the entire physical nature
Speaker 1: of his comedy. That ends with him weirdly just knocking
Speaker 1: on the house because he doesn't know what else to do.
Speaker 1: So brilliant, he takes my breath away. But do you
Speaker 1: know they always gave him the hardest job because we
Speaker 1: all had real lines, Like we had lines on a
Speaker 1: piece of paper that we were supposed to recite, and
Speaker 1: they would wait till the end of the day and
Speaker 1: all of our coverage, and then they would get Brett's
Speaker 1: coverage and they'd give him two takes and they'd be like,
Speaker 1: all right, Brett, just improvise, and it's everyone's standing there
Speaker 1: watching you, like the sun is rising, you know, there's
Speaker 1: like a clock ticking, and Brett would just have to
Speaker 1: go and he's so good at it. He just knew,
Speaker 1: he knew who Tim was. Yeah, he really got some
Speaker 1: skills on that. And by the way, skills like the
Speaker 1: opening scene when we're at the basketball game and he's running,
Speaker 1: he does this like fake out dribble between his legs
Speaker 1: so seamlessly. I was like, oh my god, Brett was
Speaker 1: like a really good basketball player. I forgot. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think they all were like legit basketball players except for Chad,
Speaker 1: who was a football boy. Right, yeah, I guess. So. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did we talk about that in the last episode, this
Speaker 1: shot that he had to make in the in the court?
Speaker 1: I know we talked about it on the zone, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, yeah, that was tough for
Speaker 1: him because he was he was definitely a football guy
Speaker 1: and you know, good at it from from what I
Speaker 1: know from what I heard, But it's just such a
Speaker 1: different it's a completely different sport. It's totally different skill set.
Speaker 1: Like if I had to do gymnastics, I'm good at
Speaker 1: other stuff, guys. But yeah, you know, everything we did
Speaker 1: involved a ton of extras, like these big party scenes,
Speaker 1: the big basketball scenes, and we were all really young actors,
Speaker 1: so we were having to make decisions in front of
Speaker 1: a live audience on set and then like hope that
Speaker 1: when it aired two weeks later, because our turnaround was
Speaker 1: so fast that people liked it. Um getting feedback that
Speaker 1: people didn't like, Peyton it was so you got feedback
Speaker 1: that people didn't like because remember we were supposed to
Speaker 1: be a mid season replacement, so we were used to
Speaker 1: bank all of our episodes before we ever aired. And
Speaker 1: then there was was it was a Rachel Lee cook
Speaker 1: show that Warner Brothers decided like, you know what, this
Speaker 1: isn't ready. We're not going to do this right now.
Speaker 1: Let's just put One Tree Hill on on in September.
Speaker 1: And we'd only been filming since July, so we'd only
Speaker 1: banked like three episodes when our show started airing, and
Speaker 1: and very quickly the feedback came in like what's this
Speaker 1: bitch so MOPy about? You know? And I think maybe
Speaker 1: that was a blessing because it's certainly made me aware
Speaker 1: of how as being perceived, which put me right back
Speaker 1: in high school, like you're totally aware of what everyone
Speaker 1: around you was saying, the rumor mill it was. It
Speaker 1: was humbling. It's hard too because we we were young,
Speaker 1: and of course, I mean, gosh, as an adult, you
Speaker 1: want to be liked. As a kid, you want to
Speaker 1: be liked so badly, and you want to do a
Speaker 1: good job, and especially on our first jobs. And I well,
Speaker 1: if I remember that, I remember how uncomfortable it made
Speaker 1: me feel because Brooke was put in a position where
Speaker 1: she granted performatively and to try to feel any kind
Speaker 1: of validation because she didn't have it from her family
Speaker 1: and you know, all the all the aspects of her
Speaker 1: back story, she was very sexualized. And then I felt
Speaker 1: like I was being very sexualized, and it made me
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. This this sort of like yeah, this like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're a bad girl, And I was like, I just
Speaker 1: I play this girl on TV and I don't know
Speaker 1: who I am yet. I remember that too, Sophia, because
Speaker 1: I didn't a lot of the press that we started
Speaker 1: doing after the show. It was like you were always
Speaker 1: expected to be wearing the super short skirt, the you know,
Speaker 1: the cleavage thing. Remember the photo shoot that we did
Speaker 1: that was like in a garbage dump or something. Me
Speaker 1: like had Yes, it was that weird race trashsh Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still have something up in my crap about it,
Speaker 1: like I'm so mad. It was like we'd worked so
Speaker 1: hard to get here, so hard to get here first
Speaker 1: big photo shoot and don't yeah, I'm so glad you
Speaker 1: brought that like a salvage yard kind of a place.
Speaker 1: But there was something that was like on a race track,
Speaker 1: and the race track was really cute and that was
Speaker 1: fun stuff. And then they were like, come over here
Speaker 1: in short skirts and stand in front of a pile
Speaker 1: of trash and I was like no, yeah, by the way, Hillary,
Speaker 1: do you remember we were side by side and one
Speaker 1: of those shots that day and they handed you a
Speaker 1: hose and you just like pointed it at the ground.
Speaker 1: They wanted you to be hosing me down and you
Speaker 1: didn't do it, and I just like froze and you
Speaker 1: were like no, And I remember just looking around like
Speaker 1: is this what's expected of me? And we didn't obviously,
Speaker 1: like we wouldn't let we didn't let them keep the
Speaker 1: water on, but like that idea, essentially, they were like
Speaker 1: trying to shoot a wet t shirt contest, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to do this at all,
Speaker 1: especially in a pile of trash. Gross words. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: totally forgotten about that, and I'm so glad you brought
Speaker 1: it up because a metaphor for how we were treated
Speaker 1: the whole time. Guys, we're gonna give you a photo spread.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a cover. It's made of trash. What
Speaker 1: was your first experience of like getting feedback, because I
Speaker 1: feel like we started to get it right around this episode. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I know that what I
Speaker 1: remember was that there were message boards. Um that was
Speaker 1: still like there was still dial up I think at
Speaker 1: that time. I don't remember, but it was definitely like
Speaker 1: my Space and message boards, and it was not not
Speaker 1: fancy or slick or pretty or anything. So you'd just
Speaker 1: go find your show on a message board and then
Speaker 1: just like search your name or look for whatever people were,
Speaker 1: whatever the topics were. Um, I don't remember. I could
Speaker 1: make something up, but I just don't remember. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: That's good. That means it wasn't traumatic, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't I was concerned with what people thought. I
Speaker 1: think it probably did inform what I things that I
Speaker 1: maybe fought for I didn't fight for, but um, I
Speaker 1: wish I had a memory of it. I don't, But
Speaker 1: you do you remember seeing things that people didn't like?
Speaker 1: Did it? Did it affect you when you went to
Speaker 1: work the next week or the next day, or were
Speaker 1: you like trying to make different choices? How did it
Speaker 1: affect you? I was certainly concerned about storyline, you know,
Speaker 1: because the show I signed up for was one thing,
Speaker 1: it evolved into this other thing that's like making vibrator
Speaker 1: jokes with teenage girls and like staying out drinking all
Speaker 1: night you know, um, even though the lights are all on. Um.
Speaker 1: It uh. Definitely gave me like a lot of anxiety,
Speaker 1: especially because our bosses were aware of it, Like they
Speaker 1: brought it up to me. They're like, man, everybody hates you,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not sure how to like circle back
Speaker 1: and get them to like you. But they really like
Speaker 1: the other girls a lot better. And so there was
Speaker 1: a part of me also that was like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: I lean into this. Like, you know, the first lesson
Speaker 1: they teach you in acting school is the bad guy
Speaker 1: doesn't know they're the bad guy. So there certainly was
Speaker 1: a part of season one where I'm like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: the bad guy, like I guess I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: when I auditioned for the show, but I'm the bad guy.
Speaker 1: And that made it a lot easier to do questionable things,
Speaker 1: you know, to just like lean into this early. That's
Speaker 1: so interesting that you felt like the bad guy. That's
Speaker 1: like the beginning of it all to the beginning of
Speaker 1: the separation, the segregation of the three of us of like,
Speaker 1: you know, the idea that you're somehow unliked and the
Speaker 1: rest and the end you know that somehow you're the
Speaker 1: you're the odd man out well, and there was always something,
Speaker 1: there was always a little earworm they'd give us right like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know this was good. But you know what they
Speaker 1: really liked was when she did that, and you know
Speaker 1: who's really good is Sophia shirt. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: they wanted us to feel like if if you know,
Speaker 1: any of anyone else was succeeding, we were failing. Was
Speaker 1: how we were made to feel, rather than you guys
Speaker 1: are all doing a really good job, and like, here's
Speaker 1: what your strengths are, and we're really proud of you.
Speaker 1: That that certainly was not. Isn't it crazy? How indirect
Speaker 1: like opposite from the storyline of the show. It is
Speaker 1: like you Devi and Karen and you've got Peyton Haley
Speaker 1: like all kumbaya, like this is awesome. But then the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes what was that show? That that e
Speaker 1: true Hollywood story? Everything? Yeah, behind the scenes was so different.
Speaker 1: So it's crazy that the same brains were coordinating. But
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting to me is when I think
Speaker 1: about the fact that there was such a huge conflict
Speaker 1: between Lucas and Nathan, and in so many high school shows,
Speaker 1: the conflict is between the girls, but the conflict with
Speaker 1: the kids was between the boys. So in a way,
Speaker 1: in the beginning, they wrote us very atypically. They kind
Speaker 1: of switched the traditional gender roles, and later as the
Speaker 1: as the boys repaired their relationship, they created rifts with
Speaker 1: the girls. And later they also started taking things from
Speaker 1: our real lives and putting them in the shows in
Speaker 1: very manipulative ways, because you know, there were I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, though, that's like a great point that
Speaker 1: they wrote us as like nineties boys. What nineties boy
Speaker 1: would be your character? Oh that's interesting? Oh God, watching friends,
Speaker 1: like like who was who was the b Arthur of
Speaker 1: nineties boys? Like for myself? You mean you as a
Speaker 1: person or like as would have been? Who was like
Speaker 1: the nineties boy of I think you're totally right, Sophia.
Speaker 1: They wrote you as like the Paul Walker. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean what I was going to say, I
Speaker 1: was the Pacy. You think I'm the Paul Walker. That's
Speaker 1: so flattering. Anny Blues just like sex on the washing
Speaker 1: machine and I'm a fun on the stone. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the like the party boy m hm yeah yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: She kind of was the captain of the football team, yes,
Speaker 1: the alpha. Okay, So who's the boy? Who's loves? Who's hey?
Speaker 1: I didn't watch like nine O two n oh, but
Speaker 1: I feel like there's somebody in there. I mean there's
Speaker 1: strong Josh Jackson vibes. I think like super Frank, I
Speaker 1: could live on a boat. Yeah, like boy next Door
Speaker 1: but no bs. Yeah, childhood love. I still think that
Speaker 1: Sad Haley and Lucas energy is just so latent and prime.
Speaker 1: So who's yours? Who's your who's your nineties? I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm afraid of is that I'm like, were
Speaker 1: you Luke Perry. Were you Dylan? I think I think
Speaker 1: you were. I think you were Dylan. Guys, I watched
Speaker 1: Buffy the Vampire Slayer the movie with my son, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be Buffy. I wanted to be Luke Perry. How was
Speaker 1: my angst? Yeah, well that feels really appropriate because as
Speaker 1: a as a young teen myself, I didn't know if
Speaker 1: I wanted to be Luke Perry or date Luke Perry.
Speaker 1: And I feel like Brooke doesn't know if she wants
Speaker 1: to be painting her dater. So that's It's so because
Speaker 1: over the years, so many people have come up to
Speaker 1: us and talked about sexuality and being teenage girls. And
Speaker 1: while we were so worried about being painted as these
Speaker 1: like little sex puppets for men, you know, what I
Speaker 1: didn't realize is um how much energy people were picking
Speaker 1: up on, you know, for a whole rainbow of preferences
Speaker 1: and seeing it in myself in this episode, you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of guessed when Peyton comes or is like
Speaker 1: hanging out with Haley outside of the bathroom, because I
Speaker 1: was like, is Peyton flirting with Haley? It was like
Speaker 1: I'm watching a totally different person, but I was also
Speaker 1: enamored with you Joy, and so maybe yeah, probably just
Speaker 1: like you growl, you're trying to get out of here
Speaker 1: high school. It's hormones are all trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: like who are we? And what what is? What do
Speaker 1: I do with all these hormones? And how do I
Speaker 1: feel about this? And I think the reality is that
Speaker 1: what you see on screen. I mean, my god, we
Speaker 1: were watching the episode and we were like, oh, the
Speaker 1: vibes are strong, the vibes are strong in the bathroom hallway,
Speaker 1: And I think the truth of the matter and and
Speaker 1: you know, the reality even when we think about all
Speaker 1: of our lives behind the scenes, As you said, it's
Speaker 1: messy because you are a young person trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what attraction means. You know, now, as an adult,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm attracted to the brains
Speaker 1: and intellects and spirits of all of my friends and
Speaker 1: of you know, I have writing crushes on people. But
Speaker 1: when you're a teenager, you're just like, well, a crush
Speaker 1: as a crush as a crush. You don't know the
Speaker 1: difference between what makes you drawn to a person, and
Speaker 1: and that I think is about that era of figuring
Speaker 1: it out. And I think that's why, even though our
Speaker 1: show was um very binary at the time and because
Speaker 1: of who it was written by, I think so many people,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, with a you know, spectrum of preferences,
Speaker 1: felt represented by us anyway, because as we were still
Speaker 1: representing that curiosity and that finding of ourselves regardless of
Speaker 1: where our characters found themselves, which to your point, Sophia,
Speaker 1: that we at that age, you know, we're all we
Speaker 1: are all trying to figure out where where we fit
Speaker 1: and where we belong. And um, so so much of
Speaker 1: how we've that I was by what we watch and
Speaker 1: what we see around us. You know, the shows that
Speaker 1: we consume as young people make a huge impact in that,
Speaker 1: which again goes back to parenting, which is why parenting
Speaker 1: is so important. That you know, it's not you're not
Speaker 1: just getting all your information from TV, because God, I mean,
Speaker 1: my idea of romance and attraction is what I thought
Speaker 1: relationships should be like and prejudice joy, what was what
Speaker 1: was your what was your like dream romance as a teenager?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, well the Princess Bride of course, couldn't
Speaker 1: expectations get any higher? And you know, any of those
Speaker 1: great rom comes my best friend's wedding, which is super
Speaker 1: bittersweeten like not the kind of way that you want
Speaker 1: to model your you know, um, but yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: like you need you need. That's why parents are so important.
Speaker 1: Why I'm so greatful that we had you know, Keith
Speaker 1: doing some great parenting in this show, in this episode,
Speaker 1: for sure, I mean, let's talk about that that. I
Speaker 1: mean Karen Karen also you know, giving great advice and
Speaker 1: deb was trying, but Nathan didn't seem to really listen.
Speaker 1: But um, I loved that Keith was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: letting you kids just run riot and get away with anything.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make some phone calls and you guys have
Speaker 1: to own up to your responsibilities. Yeah it's nice to
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, it was so nice to see the
Speaker 1: adults in the room forced them to deal with the
Speaker 1: mess they'd made the night before. And yeah, Keith, by
Speaker 1: the way, like, had we seen him interact with Nathan
Speaker 1: at any point? Yeah, like the first thing we see
Speaker 1: him like other girls, Yeah, he probably had like Christmas
Speaker 1: with this kid when he was little. They've had to
Speaker 1: stay with each other at Thanksgiving and so for him
Speaker 1: to call and rat him out and be like, if
Speaker 1: your dad won't parent you, I will parent you. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and and to not only demand that these kids
Speaker 1: learn something and behave uh, even if not in the moment,
Speaker 1: in the aftermath, with modicum of respect. And then you
Speaker 1: see deb you know, when she gets into it with Dan,
Speaker 1: and Dan says, well, he's a good kid, you know,
Speaker 1: and she tells him what he did, and she says,
Speaker 1: a good kid based on what is scoring average? And
Speaker 1: it's like, do you even know what's going on with
Speaker 1: your kid or are you just concerned with his performance?
Speaker 1: You're so Sophia. I think about a lot of the
Speaker 1: other shows are a lot of shows I see now
Speaker 1: with teenagers, And sorry if I sound like an old lady,
Speaker 1: but like they're so disrespectful. Yeah, they're so disrespectful. And
Speaker 1: that you're right. There was at least a lot of
Speaker 1: the kids on our show they when they were speaking
Speaker 1: to an adult there that that respect was still represented
Speaker 1: and if they were disrespectful, they got called on it,
Speaker 1: which I think is so important. And and when we
Speaker 1: took it a step farther and said, you know, what's
Speaker 1: motivating them, what's hurting them? You know, deb throwing that
Speaker 1: in Dan's face. She was like, you're paying attention to
Speaker 1: what he's doing, not how he is. And that hits
Speaker 1: different for me now. It makes me want to see
Speaker 1: more of Debt, more of death, more death. How can
Speaker 1: we get more of Barbara Allen Woods? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: what's cool is that if this script came across our desks,
Speaker 1: like right now, I like the women, the deb and
Speaker 1: Karen are like, this would be something we'll be like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds neat. Um okay, so it was not lost
Speaker 1: on us. I don't know. We've crashed the comment how
Speaker 1: many times? How many times? Though? Actually need to know?
Speaker 1: Somebody has to find out. Yeah, because we don't know
Speaker 1: because I forgot the Nathan crashed it. I know I
Speaker 1: crashed it once. Did Luke crash it at some point?
Speaker 1: I don't? I feel like maybe I feel like that
Speaker 1: that poor car really got harmed? Often were they kept
Speaker 1: two on the lot. We had Steve Thompson's and that
Speaker 1: was our alpha car. He worked in our camera department. Um,
Speaker 1: that was the one we never hurt. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the one that drove. There was this other car that
Speaker 1: just it was like the punching bag that we you know,
Speaker 1: had to keep kind of looking like the comment. But
Speaker 1: then I heard that the comment got sold, and I
Speaker 1: would see people post about like, oh, I bought the comment,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, which, what? Which is it? The one
Speaker 1: we crashed into a telephone ball? Because if so, I
Speaker 1: am sorry. Sorry, guys, I will admit that sometimes I
Speaker 1: go on classic car websites and shock for that you do.
Speaker 1: I should have bought it. I think you deserve it.
Speaker 1: Steve Offord to sell it to me when I first
Speaker 1: left the show, but it was it was too new,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I couldn't have it
Speaker 1: sit in my driveway. No, it was like yeah, and
Speaker 1: now I'm like, that's my car. Give me my car back,
Speaker 1: Damn I want it one of these days. Okay. So really,
Speaker 1: what this is is a call out if anybody's listening,
Speaker 1: and it happens to be an excellent internet sleuth. And
Speaker 1: I know y'all are out there because you find things
Speaker 1: like pictures of joy and a penis hat, you turn
Speaker 1: them up all the time, you guys. Somebody out there,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry in a green hat. Please don't don't photoshop
Speaker 1: the thing I just said, don't do that. Keep it classy,
Speaker 1: Keep it classy, Internet friends, but in your classy searches
Speaker 1: of iconic One Tree Hill history. If someone finds a
Speaker 1: comment on the Internet, please email us the link to
Speaker 1: a drama queen's email address. We would like to see
Speaker 1: it and perhaps a place an anonymous bid. Can I
Speaker 1: can I drop my son off at school? In Peyton's comment,
Speaker 1: well be I also sort of love the idea, you know,
Speaker 1: since this is our two point oh adventure, like, why
Speaker 1: can't you paint it white? Paint it red? Like you
Speaker 1: Mary Kay pink. Let's get real drama quick. You can
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. You can have your version of
Speaker 1: her car, all right, John a Queen's and I heart
Speaker 1: radio dot com. Someone's going to find me a comment
Speaker 1: and we want to know how many times the comment
Speaker 1: was crashed? Yes, yeah, tell us two pieces of information
Speaker 1: we could use from you our friends out there. Word
Speaker 1: who wants to do superlatives? Are we doing most likely
Speaker 1: to most likely to? I really need to get the
Speaker 1: sound of a drum roll for these moments because I
Speaker 1: feel like the keep getting most likely to get married
Speaker 1: in Vegas? Interesting? Okay, so we should have a real
Speaker 1: life option and then a character option. What do we think?
Speaker 1: I think the person who is most likely to get
Speaker 1: married in Vegas is definitely Tim. Oh, sweet Tim. He
Speaker 1: would just take whatever he could get, sweet baby. Yeah, Tim,
Speaker 1: definitely Yeah? Yeah right? Any cheerleaders? Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I don't know that I can
Speaker 1: come up with another one. Yeah, I agree. I think
Speaker 1: that's great. Okay, but who in real life? Like, who's
Speaker 1: the most impulsive member of our gang? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of anyone did get married in Vegas? Did did anyone?
Speaker 1: I would? You? Would? You would? Yeah? Oh you would
Speaker 1: like a lope with a pair of cowboy boots on
Speaker 1: under your dress and just like do it? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would do it. Are we going to solicit for that
Speaker 1: on the internet? To everybody who should Joy date? Yes? Yes, yeah, fine?
Speaker 1: I love this mark the first not the first wedding.
Speaker 1: You don't want your first wedding in Vegas. But if
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a second one, go to Vegas. The
Speaker 1: courthouser to Vegas. Aren't we going to Vegas soon? Joy?
Speaker 1: That's right? Okay. So I have to find someone to marry,
Speaker 1: someone who I want to marry within the next, like
Speaker 1: your type, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, design your type
Speaker 1: right now. Oh ge whiz oh gee Willoker. You're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. But some we're gonna blow on the dice.
Speaker 1: I just want, like I just want like a nice
Speaker 1: tall Christian cowboys like coal Houser on yellow Stone. It
Speaker 1: just plus some Jesus, you know, like that Johnny Cash
Speaker 1: kind of Jesus. I want somebody who's a little bit
Speaker 1: rouchy and rough, but also it's a big teddy Bearn's side.
Speaker 1: And um, Alan Jackson smart, he's got to be real smart,
Speaker 1: Like I gotta have a really good conversations that it
Speaker 1: kills me if that's not and I gotta laugh. I
Speaker 1: gotta make me laugh. Um a right guinea cowboy coming
Speaker 1: to Vegas, Irish Lumberjack to anybody, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to like weed out the rest of the world. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I can see that. But what you're saying is
Speaker 1: you like rural it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah, I used
Speaker 1: to say when when I was on the market, I
Speaker 1: used to say, I'm just this is hard, but I
Speaker 1: need someone who can go rugged too. Red carpet, like
Speaker 1: you got to run the ranch and you have to
Speaker 1: be able to drop into a tuxt with me because
Speaker 1: we have things to go to. And that's so fine.
Speaker 1: You know, if you say any kind of when I
Speaker 1: date someone and they like don't quite know how to
Speaker 1: dress for a carpet, it's kind of sweet, your sneak.
Speaker 1: All it takes is two birthdays and a Christmas and
Speaker 1: you can make over anywhere. Two birthdays. You're good at that.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'll think she don't worry, like just weary.
Speaker 1: This okay. So we know that our angel, Brett clay
Speaker 1: Well's character Tim is probably gonna go to Vegas, and
Speaker 1: that feels right to all of us. Um, and then
Speaker 1: you know, Joy will see what happens in September. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'll be there. You know. If you're like a nice
Speaker 1: Christian cowboy who's like tough and smart and you know, grouchy,
Speaker 1: meet me in Vegas. Make sure make sure your jeans
Speaker 1: are tight, sir. But until aren't you pleasant? I don't
Speaker 1: believe you. Yeah, exactly, you gotta be. You gotta do
Speaker 1: a little cranky. But until we meet this grouchy, cranky cowboy.
Speaker 1: We do have some listener questions in the meantime. Um.
Speaker 1: The first one comes in from our friend Jacob, who says,
Speaker 1: my two best friends Courtney and Marissa and I are
Speaker 1: going to Wilmington's for our vacation to sight see all
Speaker 1: the one Tree Hill sites. We enjoyed making a list
Speaker 1: of things and are even using things from your podcast
Speaker 1: to add to it. Kitty's are there any hidden gems
Speaker 1: you guys would suggest? Well? Lee tipped everyone off to
Speaker 1: the Brasserie last week? Yeah, what about that? Is the
Speaker 1: tea room on on Water Street? Still there? Who you guys?
Speaker 1: I think that's up for sale. That's the listing I
Speaker 1: sent you. So we have this. We have the secret
Speaker 1: dream of getting a shop together like the three of us,
Speaker 1: and so I scour real estate listings and then send
Speaker 1: them to these two at two o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing. What about the right next to it,
Speaker 1: there's a friend place. I want to say, It's like,
Speaker 1: look contiliar Catalan, the Catalan. That's they've got a good
Speaker 1: They've got a good. Like um, what's it with the
Speaker 1: hot dog wrapped in a croissant and they starve it
Speaker 1: with mustard like a pig in a blanket. But it's friend.
Speaker 1: It has a fancy Oh my god, I love it,
Speaker 1: those those little spots downtown. I will say, what I
Speaker 1: know will always be there that you must go to
Speaker 1: is kill Wins ice Cream, especially because it's going to
Speaker 1: be summer. The smell it, you can smell the waffle
Speaker 1: cones cooking from outside. Literally my mouth is watering thinking
Speaker 1: about it. The air chocolate chip cookie dough is the
Speaker 1: best ice cream I've ever had in my life, so
Speaker 1: toast it's just so good. Please go have some for us. Um,
Speaker 1: go to the Brasserie for that mac and cheese that
Speaker 1: is Leon Norris's favorite. And you must go to Wrightsville
Speaker 1: Beach because it's again the summertime, and be because Tower
Speaker 1: seven is there, and that those tacos and for shopping.
Speaker 1: Go to the edge of Earth. Is that still there?
Speaker 1: It was totally still there. And they've also got a
Speaker 1: location in Raleigh. Um, I think we all know I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about the bar scene. Blue Post is
Speaker 1: the spot. You know, we were friends with the owners
Speaker 1: when we were there, still friends with the owners in fact.
Speaker 1: So over the Christmas break, Jeffrey had to shoot a
Speaker 1: movie and they shot the entire movie without him, like
Speaker 1: in l A or somewhere else. And then they just
Speaker 1: had to shoot his coverage. They had like a body
Speaker 1: double for him, so I literally just needed to shoot
Speaker 1: his coverage. And we were in the Outer Banks and
Speaker 1: they were like, we'll meet you in Wilmington. We need
Speaker 1: a bar, but everything's closed for COVID, so where like
Speaker 1: where can we shoot? And so I called Barbara Wheaton,
Speaker 1: the owner of Blue Post, and was like, yo, girl,
Speaker 1: my Husban's got to do a movie. Can they your
Speaker 1: And she was like, oh my god. Yes. So they
Speaker 1: opened it up for this you know, this production. Um,
Speaker 1: but it will only be Jeffrey's side. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So it was really cool. I think they actually they
Speaker 1: had to double like sand dunes in the desert and
Speaker 1: so they drove off to Carolina Beach in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night and cheated the beach for the desert,
Speaker 1: which is that's the magic of movie making. Magic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Go Post is great and Yosaki like karaoke was so
Speaker 1: so fun. And if you go to Blue Post, look
Speaker 1: for our look for our little placards because Blue Post
Speaker 1: has a beer list. You will not get through it
Speaker 1: in three days. Our friend Jacob and Courtney and Marissa,
Speaker 1: but it took us all a while. I think it's
Speaker 1: like sixty four beers or something, and some of them
Speaker 1: are discussing on purpose, and you have to drink all
Speaker 1: of them, and then you get a little placard on
Speaker 1: the wall with you do it. Of course I did it.
Speaker 1: I did that. I did it. I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. I was like, give me, give me all
Speaker 1: the beers. Let's do this. I want to leave my
Speaker 1: mark on Wilton in this bar. Your face has painted
Speaker 1: on the side of the studio, but you're like a
Speaker 1: little placard on that post. And I think they're like,
Speaker 1: they're honestly like little plastic name tags that just get
Speaker 1: hot glued to the wall. Baby, someone stole yours, I
Speaker 1: would be so sad that felt in my name. If you,
Speaker 1: if you did steal it, give it back. If you
Speaker 1: stole it, please return it. Thank you, thank you very much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whoever bought that should honestly sell it to you. That
Speaker 1: would be a nice thing for them. Guys. They like
Speaker 1: shifted across the ocean, which is a huge compliment. It's
Speaker 1: in Australia. I heard. Really that's a huge compliment that
Speaker 1: someone wanted. So what I hear you saying is that
Speaker 1: we also need to take our road show of drama
Speaker 1: queens to Australia, and these people need to give us
Speaker 1: a ride to our event eventually in your b So
Speaker 1: if you'all could just get vaxed so we could come
Speaker 1: and we would love it. Okay, what is next? Okay,
Speaker 1: So we have a question from Katie. Katie says, if
Speaker 1: you were the parent to Brook, Haley and Peyton and
Speaker 1: or Peyton, what advice would you have given them to
Speaker 1: help them get through high school? I mean, oh my god,
Speaker 1: are we going to talk for another forty five minutes? Um? Atlanta? Um?
Speaker 1: Should we just give advice for our characters, like as
Speaker 1: our respective, like a parent to our characters? Yes, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. I would have told Haley, um, it's okay
Speaker 1: to make mistakes. Don't worry so much about about being
Speaker 1: perfect and trying to control everything. Just let let yourself
Speaker 1: be messy if you need to, and just experience, experiment
Speaker 1: and experience life. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I would tell Peyton, baby,
Speaker 1: got the whole rest of your life to be a
Speaker 1: grown up, you know, don't rush it, just be goofy.
Speaker 1: I see, I see myself trying to be goofy in Peyton,
Speaker 1: but she wasn't written as goofy and so I see
Speaker 1: myself like slumping or like delivering lines kind of goofy
Speaker 1: um and and yeah, I like when I see kids
Speaker 1: just acting like dorks. I'd tell Payton to dork it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would want to give that that advice to Brook
Speaker 1: also and actually enjoy. It's so funny. What comes to mind.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but remember when
Speaker 1: we were in Wilmington's and you started asking us to
Speaker 1: do those twenty questions answers for you my blog, and
Speaker 1: you asked me to write advice to my younger self.
Speaker 1: And it feels so right for Brooke, especially as we've
Speaker 1: just unpacked some of her performative fear in this episode.
Speaker 1: Um but but I remember saying, don't worry so much
Speaker 1: about being someone else's definition of enough. You already are.
Speaker 1: And I just would want for her to feel that
Speaker 1: she was enough, that she didn't have to prove, or
Speaker 1: live up to, or or convince anyone of anything. I
Speaker 1: love that you guys are totally enough. You're more than
Speaker 1: enough for me, you are. We hope you're having fun
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Speaker 1: next week we have episode five, all that you Can't
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Speaker 1: I'm here. I mean, Lucas is mad at Haley and
Speaker 1: Nathan or on the verge of breaking up, and something's
Speaker 1: going on with Brooken this next episode. I think too.
Speaker 1: I have to are you're probably going to make a move.
Speaker 1: Are you going to make a move on the boy?
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