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Speaker 1: Guys. So much happens in episode four, actutely titled Crash

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Speaker 1: into You because crash, but I think the car crashing no,

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Speaker 1: don't go bad, Okay, crash into You is? Is this

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Speaker 1: an episode where Haley convinces Lucas to go with the

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Speaker 1: team to a party at Nathan's beach house, hoping that

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Speaker 1: is our finally being able to see deb Scott, Barbara

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Speaker 1: Alan Woods. She is such a babe, such a babe,

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Speaker 1: and such a good mom, such a good mom, like

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Speaker 1: she sees it. And she's not just like going along

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Speaker 1: with every craziness that Dan is showing us. Well, and

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Speaker 1: how like Dan Scott has been situated firmly in this

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Speaker 1: the kitchen. You know, she is able to do that

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Speaker 1: with such ease, you know. And she came into a

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Speaker 1: cast that was already working together, it's right, and they

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Speaker 1: did such a beautiful job of establishing I forgot that

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Speaker 1: there was intimacy between Dan and Death, like the way

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Speaker 1: is that my wife? And there's this whole dynamic and

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Speaker 1: and Barb played so many levels in this episode so

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Speaker 1: flawlessly to to have that romance with him, to challenge

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Speaker 1: him to be observing her, her changing teenage son, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, when she calls him surly, Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like our parents ever said that about us? Surly? It

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Speaker 1: was a tall order for the character of deb though,

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Speaker 1: to be able to walk that line, to tow that

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Speaker 1: the sort of awkward way that you know she did

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Speaker 1: like I could see when she walked in and she's

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Speaker 1: then she goes to leave, and You're like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: she's losing it. She's losing it. She's chickening. Out and

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Speaker 1: then they suddenly have this beautiful conversation. I mean, really,

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Speaker 1: what we are is the Barbara Allen Woods fan club.

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Speaker 1: She wears the pants in this episode, which which you

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Speaker 1: know watching it as an adult lady, Now I'm like, yeah, girl,

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Speaker 1: put on as an adult. What hit me was their

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Speaker 1: whole conversation when she talks about how Nathan is is

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Speaker 1: obviously suffering or struggling, and Dan tries to blame her

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Speaker 1: and says it's because you're working and you're gone, and

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Speaker 1: she says, I'm gone at max ten days a month,

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Speaker 1: and and he's pressuring her if you were home, if

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Speaker 1: you spent more time with him, and she claims her identity,

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Speaker 1: her career, that she deserves to have both to be

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Speaker 1: like she really defends herself as an individual woman who's

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Speaker 1: also a mother. And I didn't catch that in two

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Speaker 1: thousand three. No, I didn't either, but she did. She

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Speaker 1: did such a badass job of that well. And the

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Speaker 1: only two people that see Nathan's vulnerabilities ever are deb

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Speaker 1: where he's so sweet with you, Joy, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: then and then to see him become such a jackass

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Speaker 1: Jane could do this, because James intrinsically is just such

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Speaker 1: a great person, such a good man, that he managed

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Speaker 1: and then Nathan invites Lucas to this party, right, we

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Speaker 1: playing Never have I ever actually play that in high school? No,

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Speaker 1: but drinking champagne joy Yeah, you were like a working actor.

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Speaker 1: so this is what a house party feels. Really. What

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Speaker 1: beach parties. No, oh my gosh, that's like so funny

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Speaker 1: what do we know? How does this work? Virgin was

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Speaker 1: And I love that about Peyton. I think that's one

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Speaker 1: her and the wherewith all as well. In that breakup

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Speaker 1: of validation because she didn't have it from her family

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00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: and you know, all the all the aspects of her

429
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: back story, she was very sexualized. And then I felt

430
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: like I was being very sexualized, and it made me

431
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. This this sort of like yeah, this like, oh,

432
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: you're a bad girl, And I was like, I just

433
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: I play this girl on TV and I don't know

434
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: who I am yet. I remember that too, Sophia, because

435
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: I didn't a lot of the press that we started

436
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: doing after the show. It was like you were always

437
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: expected to be wearing the super short skirt, the you know,

438
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: the cleavage thing. Remember the photo shoot that we did

439
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: that was like in a garbage dump or something. Me

440
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: like had Yes, it was that weird race trashsh Yeah,

441
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: I still have something up in my crap about it,

442
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: like I'm so mad. It was like we'd worked so

443
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: hard to get here, so hard to get here first

444
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: big photo shoot and don't yeah, I'm so glad you

445
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: brought that like a salvage yard kind of a place.

446
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: But there was something that was like on a race track,

447
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: and the race track was really cute and that was

448
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: fun stuff. And then they were like, come over here

449
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: in short skirts and stand in front of a pile

450
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 1: of trash and I was like no, yeah, by the way, Hillary,

451
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: do you remember we were side by side and one

452
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: of those shots that day and they handed you a

453
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: hose and you just like pointed it at the ground.

454
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: They wanted you to be hosing me down and you

455
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: didn't do it, and I just like froze and you

456
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: were like no, And I remember just looking around like

457
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: is this what's expected of me? And we didn't obviously,

458
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: like we wouldn't let we didn't let them keep the

459
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: water on, but like that idea, essentially, they were like

460
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: trying to shoot a wet t shirt contest, and I

461
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to do this at all,

462
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: especially in a pile of trash. Gross words. Oh my god,

463
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: totally forgotten about that, and I'm so glad you brought

464
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: it up because a metaphor for how we were treated

465
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: the whole time. Guys, we're gonna give you a photo spread.

466
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a cover. It's made of trash. What

467
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: was your first experience of like getting feedback, because I

468
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: feel like we started to get it right around this episode. Uh,

469
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I know that what I

470
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: remember was that there were message boards. Um that was

471
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: still like there was still dial up I think at

472
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: that time. I don't remember, but it was definitely like

473
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: my Space and message boards, and it was not not

474
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: fancy or slick or pretty or anything. So you'd just

475
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: go find your show on a message board and then

476
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: just like search your name or look for whatever people were,

477
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: whatever the topics were. Um, I don't remember. I could

478
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: make something up, but I just don't remember. I didn't know.

479
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: That's good. That means it wasn't traumatic, No, it wasn't.

480
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't I was concerned with what people thought. I

481
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: think it probably did inform what I things that I

482
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: maybe fought for I didn't fight for, but um, I

483
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: wish I had a memory of it. I don't, But

484
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: you do you remember seeing things that people didn't like?

485
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Did it? Did it affect you when you went to

486
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: work the next week or the next day, or were

487
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: you like trying to make different choices? How did it

488
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: affect you? I was certainly concerned about storyline, you know,

489
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: because the show I signed up for was one thing,

490
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: it evolved into this other thing that's like making vibrator

491
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: jokes with teenage girls and like staying out drinking all

492
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: night you know, um, even though the lights are all on. Um.

493
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: It uh. Definitely gave me like a lot of anxiety,

494
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: especially because our bosses were aware of it, Like they

495
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: brought it up to me. They're like, man, everybody hates you,

496
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, we're not sure how to like circle back

497
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: and get them to like you. But they really like

498
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: the other girls a lot better. And so there was

499
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: a part of me also that was like, well, maybe

500
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: I lean into this. Like, you know, the first lesson

501
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: they teach you in acting school is the bad guy

502
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: doesn't know they're the bad guy. So there certainly was

503
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: a part of season one where I'm like, oh, I'm

504
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: the bad guy, like I guess I didn't realize that

505
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: when I auditioned for the show, but I'm the bad guy.

506
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: And that made it a lot easier to do questionable things,

507
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, to just like lean into this early. That's

508
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: so interesting that you felt like the bad guy. That's

509
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: like the beginning of it all to the beginning of

510
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: the separation, the segregation of the three of us of like,

511
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, the idea that you're somehow unliked and the

512
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: rest and the end you know that somehow you're the

513
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: you're the odd man out well, and there was always something,

514
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: there was always a little earworm they'd give us right like, oh, well,

515
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: you know this was good. But you know what they

516
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: really liked was when she did that, and you know

517
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: who's really good is Sophia shirt. It's like, you know,

518
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: they wanted us to feel like if if you know,

519
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: any of anyone else was succeeding, we were failing. Was

520
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: how we were made to feel, rather than you guys

521
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: are all doing a really good job, and like, here's

522
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: what your strengths are, and we're really proud of you.

523
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: That that certainly was not. Isn't it crazy? How indirect

524
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: like opposite from the storyline of the show. It is

525
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: like you Devi and Karen and you've got Peyton Haley

526
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: like all kumbaya, like this is awesome. But then the

527
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: behind the scenes what was that show? That that e

528
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: true Hollywood story? Everything? Yeah, behind the scenes was so different.

529
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: So it's crazy that the same brains were coordinating. But

530
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting to me is when I think

531
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: about the fact that there was such a huge conflict

532
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: between Lucas and Nathan, and in so many high school shows,

533
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: the conflict is between the girls, but the conflict with

534
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: the kids was between the boys. So in a way,

535
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: in the beginning, they wrote us very atypically. They kind

536
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: of switched the traditional gender roles, and later as the

537
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: as the boys repaired their relationship, they created rifts with

538
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: the girls. And later they also started taking things from

539
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: our real lives and putting them in the shows in

540
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: very manipulative ways, because you know, there were I was

541
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: just gonna say, though, that's like a great point that

542
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: they wrote us as like nineties boys. What nineties boy

543
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: would be your character? Oh that's interesting? Oh God, watching friends,

544
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: like like who was who was the b Arthur of

545
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: nineties boys? Like for myself? You mean you as a

546
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: person or like as would have been? Who was like

547
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: the nineties boy of I think you're totally right, Sophia.

548
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: They wrote you as like the Paul Walker. You know

549
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: what I mean what I was going to say, I

550
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: was the Pacy. You think I'm the Paul Walker. That's

551
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: so flattering. Anny Blues just like sex on the washing

552
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: machine and I'm a fun on the stone. Yeah, like

553
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: the like the party boy m hm yeah yeah, wow.

554
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: She kind of was the captain of the football team, yes,

555
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: the alpha. Okay, So who's the boy? Who's loves? Who's hey?

556
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: I didn't watch like nine O two n oh, but

557
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I feel like there's somebody in there. I mean there's

558
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: strong Josh Jackson vibes. I think like super Frank, I

559
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: could live on a boat. Yeah, like boy next Door

560
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: but no bs. Yeah, childhood love. I still think that

561
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: Sad Haley and Lucas energy is just so latent and prime.

562
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: So who's yours? Who's your who's your nineties? I don't

563
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm afraid of is that I'm like, were

564
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: you Luke Perry. Were you Dylan? I think I think

565
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: you were. I think you were Dylan. Guys, I watched

566
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: Buffy the Vampire Slayer the movie with my son, and

567
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I didn't want to

568
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: be Buffy. I wanted to be Luke Perry. How was

569
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: my angst? Yeah, well that feels really appropriate because as

570
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: a as a young teen myself, I didn't know if

571
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to be Luke Perry or date Luke Perry.

572
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: And I feel like Brooke doesn't know if she wants

573
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: to be painting her dater. So that's It's so because

574
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: over the years, so many people have come up to

575
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: us and talked about sexuality and being teenage girls. And

576
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: while we were so worried about being painted as these

577
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: like little sex puppets for men, you know, what I

578
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: didn't realize is um how much energy people were picking

579
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: up on, you know, for a whole rainbow of preferences

580
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: and seeing it in myself in this episode, you know,

581
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: I kind of guessed when Peyton comes or is like

582
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: hanging out with Haley outside of the bathroom, because I

583
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: was like, is Peyton flirting with Haley? It was like

584
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: I'm watching a totally different person, but I was also

585
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: enamored with you Joy, and so maybe yeah, probably just

586
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: like you growl, you're trying to get out of here

587
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: high school. It's hormones are all trying to figure out,

588
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: like who are we? And what what is? What do

589
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: I do with all these hormones? And how do I

590
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: feel about this? And I think the reality is that

591
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: what you see on screen. I mean, my god, we

592
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: were watching the episode and we were like, oh, the

593
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: vibes are strong, the vibes are strong in the bathroom hallway,

594
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: And I think the truth of the matter and and

595
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, the reality even when we think about all

596
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: of our lives behind the scenes, As you said, it's

597
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: messy because you are a young person trying to figure

598
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: out what attraction means. You know, now, as an adult,

599
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm attracted to the brains

600
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: and intellects and spirits of all of my friends and

601
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: of you know, I have writing crushes on people. But

602
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: when you're a teenager, you're just like, well, a crush

603
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: as a crush as a crush. You don't know the

604
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: difference between what makes you drawn to a person, and

605
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: and that I think is about that era of figuring

606
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: it out. And I think that's why, even though our

607
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: show was um very binary at the time and because

608
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: of who it was written by, I think so many people,

609
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, with a you know, spectrum of preferences,

610
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: felt represented by us anyway, because as we were still

611
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: representing that curiosity and that finding of ourselves regardless of

612
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: where our characters found themselves, which to your point, Sophia,

613
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: that we at that age, you know, we're all we

614
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: are all trying to figure out where where we fit

615
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: and where we belong. And um, so so much of

616
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: how we've that I was by what we watch and

617
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: what we see around us. You know, the shows that

618
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: we consume as young people make a huge impact in that,

619
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: which again goes back to parenting, which is why parenting

620
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: is so important. That you know, it's not you're not

621
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: just getting all your information from TV, because God, I mean,

622
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: my idea of romance and attraction is what I thought

623
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: relationships should be like and prejudice joy, what was what

624
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: was your what was your like dream romance as a teenager?

625
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, well the Princess Bride of course, couldn't

626
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: expectations get any higher? And you know, any of those

627
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: great rom comes my best friend's wedding, which is super

628
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: bittersweeten like not the kind of way that you want

629
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: to model your you know, um, but yeah, but it's

630
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: like you need you need. That's why parents are so important.

631
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: Why I'm so greatful that we had you know, Keith

632
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: doing some great parenting in this show, in this episode,

633
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: for sure, I mean, let's talk about that that. I

634
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: mean Karen Karen also you know, giving great advice and

635
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: deb was trying, but Nathan didn't seem to really listen.

636
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: But um, I loved that Keith was like, I'm not

637
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: letting you kids just run riot and get away with anything.

638
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make some phone calls and you guys have

639
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: to own up to your responsibilities. Yeah it's nice to

640
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, it was so nice to see the

641
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: adults in the room forced them to deal with the

642
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: mess they'd made the night before. And yeah, Keith, by

643
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: the way, like, had we seen him interact with Nathan

644
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: at any point? Yeah, like the first thing we see

645
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: him like other girls, Yeah, he probably had like Christmas

646
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: with this kid when he was little. They've had to

647
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: stay with each other at Thanksgiving and so for him

648
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: to call and rat him out and be like, if

649
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: your dad won't parent you, I will parent you. Yeah. Yeah,

650
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: And and and to not only demand that these kids

651
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: learn something and behave uh, even if not in the moment,

652
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: in the aftermath, with modicum of respect. And then you

653
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: see deb you know, when she gets into it with Dan,

654
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: and Dan says, well, he's a good kid, you know,

655
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: and she tells him what he did, and she says,

656
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: a good kid based on what is scoring average? And

657
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: it's like, do you even know what's going on with

658
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: your kid or are you just concerned with his performance?

659
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: You're so Sophia. I think about a lot of the

660
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: other shows are a lot of shows I see now

661
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: with teenagers, And sorry if I sound like an old lady,

662
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: but like they're so disrespectful. Yeah, they're so disrespectful. And

663
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: that you're right. There was at least a lot of

664
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: the kids on our show they when they were speaking

665
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: to an adult there that that respect was still represented

666
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: and if they were disrespectful, they got called on it,

667
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: which I think is so important. And and when we

668
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: took it a step farther and said, you know, what's

669
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: motivating them, what's hurting them? You know, deb throwing that

670
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: in Dan's face. She was like, you're paying attention to

671
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: what he's doing, not how he is. And that hits

672
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: different for me now. It makes me want to see

673
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: more of Debt, more of death, more death. How can

674
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: we get more of Barbara Allen Woods? Yeah? I think

675
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: what's cool is that if this script came across our desks,

676
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: like right now, I like the women, the deb and

677
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: Karen are like, this would be something we'll be like, yeah, yeah,

678
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: that sounds neat. Um okay, so it was not lost

679
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: on us. I don't know. We've crashed the comment how

680
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: many times? How many times? Though? Actually need to know?

681
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Somebody has to find out. Yeah, because we don't know

682
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: because I forgot the Nathan crashed it. I know I

683
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: crashed it once. Did Luke crash it at some point?

684
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: I don't? I feel like maybe I feel like that

685
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: that poor car really got harmed? Often were they kept

686
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: two on the lot. We had Steve Thompson's and that

687
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: was our alpha car. He worked in our camera department. Um,

688
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: that was the one we never hurt. Yeah, that was

689
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: the one that drove. There was this other car that

690
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: just it was like the punching bag that we you know,

691
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: had to keep kind of looking like the comment. But

692
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: then I heard that the comment got sold, and I

693
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: would see people post about like, oh, I bought the comment,

694
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, which, what? Which is it? The one

695
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: we crashed into a telephone ball? Because if so, I

696
00:41:53,120 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: am sorry. Sorry, guys, I will admit that sometimes I

697
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: go on classic car websites and shock for that you do.

698
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: I should have bought it. I think you deserve it.

699
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: Steve Offord to sell it to me when I first

700
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: left the show, but it was it was too new,

701
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I couldn't have it

702
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: sit in my driveway. No, it was like yeah, and

703
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: now I'm like, that's my car. Give me my car back,

704
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: Damn I want it one of these days. Okay. So really,

705
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: what this is is a call out if anybody's listening,

706
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: and it happens to be an excellent internet sleuth. And

707
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: I know y'all are out there because you find things

708
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: like pictures of joy and a penis hat, you turn

709
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: them up all the time, you guys. Somebody out there,

710
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry in a green hat. Please don't don't photoshop

711
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: the thing I just said, don't do that. Keep it classy,

712
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: Keep it classy, Internet friends, but in your classy searches

713
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: of iconic One Tree Hill history. If someone finds a

714
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: comment on the Internet, please email us the link to

715
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: a drama queen's email address. We would like to see

716
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: it and perhaps a place an anonymous bid. Can I

717
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: can I drop my son off at school? In Peyton's comment,

718
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: well be I also sort of love the idea, you know,

719
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: since this is our two point oh adventure, like, why

720
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: can't you paint it white? Paint it red? Like you

721
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: Mary Kay pink. Let's get real drama quick. You can

722
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. You can have your version of

723
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: her car, all right, John a Queen's and I heart

724
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: radio dot com. Someone's going to find me a comment

725
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: and we want to know how many times the comment

726
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: was crashed? Yes, yeah, tell us two pieces of information

727
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: we could use from you our friends out there. Word

728
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: who wants to do superlatives? Are we doing most likely

729
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: to most likely to? I really need to get the

730
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: sound of a drum roll for these moments because I

731
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: feel like the keep getting most likely to get married

732
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: in Vegas? Interesting? Okay, so we should have a real

733
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: life option and then a character option. What do we think?

734
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: I think the person who is most likely to get

735
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: married in Vegas is definitely Tim. Oh, sweet Tim. He

736
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: would just take whatever he could get, sweet baby. Yeah, Tim,

737
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: definitely Yeah? Yeah right? Any cheerleaders? Yeah, I don't know that.

738
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: I disagree with that. I don't know that I can

739
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: come up with another one. Yeah, I agree. I think

740
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: that's great. Okay, but who in real life? Like, who's

741
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: the most impulsive member of our gang? I'm trying to

742
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: think of anyone did get married in Vegas? Did did anyone?

743
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 1: I would? You? Would? You would? Yeah? Oh you would

744
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: like a lope with a pair of cowboy boots on

745
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: under your dress and just like do it? Yeah, I

746
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: would do it. Are we going to solicit for that

747
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: on the internet? To everybody who should Joy date? Yes? Yes, yeah, fine?

748
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: I love this mark the first not the first wedding.

749
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: You don't want your first wedding in Vegas. But if

750
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a second one, go to Vegas. The

751
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: courthouser to Vegas. Aren't we going to Vegas soon? Joy?

752
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: That's right? Okay. So I have to find someone to marry,

753
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: someone who I want to marry within the next, like

754
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: your type, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, design your type

755
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: right now. Oh ge whiz oh gee Willoker. You're like,

756
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. But some we're gonna blow on the dice.

757
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: I just want, like I just want like a nice

758
00:45:49,360 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: tall Christian cowboys like coal Houser on yellow Stone. It

759
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: just plus some Jesus, you know, like that Johnny Cash

760
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: kind of Jesus. I want somebody who's a little bit

761
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: rouchy and rough, but also it's a big teddy Bearn's side.

762
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: And um, Alan Jackson smart, he's got to be real smart,

763
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: Like I gotta have a really good conversations that it

764
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: kills me if that's not and I gotta laugh. I

765
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: gotta make me laugh. Um a right guinea cowboy coming

766
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: to Vegas, Irish Lumberjack to anybody, I don't I don't

767
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: want to like weed out the rest of the world. Okay,

768
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: so I can see that. But what you're saying is

769
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: you like rural it doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah, I used

770
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: to say when when I was on the market, I

771
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: used to say, I'm just this is hard, but I

772
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: need someone who can go rugged too. Red carpet, like

773
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: you got to run the ranch and you have to

774
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: be able to drop into a tuxt with me because

775
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: we have things to go to. And that's so fine.

776
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: You know, if you say any kind of when I

777
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: date someone and they like don't quite know how to

778
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: dress for a carpet, it's kind of sweet, your sneak.

779
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: All it takes is two birthdays and a Christmas and

780
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: you can make over anywhere. Two birthdays. You're good at that.

781
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: You're like, I'll think she don't worry, like just weary.

782
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: This okay. So we know that our angel, Brett clay

783
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: Well's character Tim is probably gonna go to Vegas, and

784
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: that feels right to all of us. Um, and then

785
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, Joy will see what happens in September. Hey,

786
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I'll be there. You know. If you're like a nice

787
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Christian cowboy who's like tough and smart and you know, grouchy,

788
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: meet me in Vegas. Make sure make sure your jeans

789
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: are tight, sir. But until aren't you pleasant? I don't

790
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: believe you. Yeah, exactly, you gotta be. You gotta do

791
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: a little cranky. But until we meet this grouchy, cranky cowboy.

792
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: We do have some listener questions in the meantime. Um.

793
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: The first one comes in from our friend Jacob, who says,

794
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: my two best friends Courtney and Marissa and I are

795
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: going to Wilmington's for our vacation to sight see all

796
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: the one Tree Hill sites. We enjoyed making a list

797
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: of things and are even using things from your podcast

798
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: to add to it. Kitty's are there any hidden gems

799
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: you guys would suggest? Well? Lee tipped everyone off to

800
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: the Brasserie last week? Yeah, what about that? Is the

801
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: tea room on on Water Street? Still there? Who you guys?

802
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: I think that's up for sale. That's the listing I

803
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: sent you. So we have this. We have the secret

804
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: dream of getting a shop together like the three of us,

805
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: and so I scour real estate listings and then send

806
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: them to these two at two o'clock in the morning.

807
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing. What about the right next to it,

808
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: there's a friend place. I want to say, It's like,

809
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: look contiliar Catalan, the Catalan. That's they've got a good

810
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: They've got a good. Like um, what's it with the

811
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: hot dog wrapped in a croissant and they starve it

812
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: with mustard like a pig in a blanket. But it's friend.

813
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: It has a fancy Oh my god, I love it,

814
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: those those little spots downtown. I will say, what I

815
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: know will always be there that you must go to

816
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: is kill Wins ice Cream, especially because it's going to

817
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: be summer. The smell it, you can smell the waffle

818
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: cones cooking from outside. Literally my mouth is watering thinking

819
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: about it. The air chocolate chip cookie dough is the

820
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: best ice cream I've ever had in my life, so

821
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: toast it's just so good. Please go have some for us. Um,

822
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: go to the Brasserie for that mac and cheese that

823
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: is Leon Norris's favorite. And you must go to Wrightsville

824
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: Beach because it's again the summertime, and be because Tower

825
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: seven is there, and that those tacos and for shopping.

826
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: Go to the edge of Earth. Is that still there?

827
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: It was totally still there. And they've also got a

828
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: location in Raleigh. Um, I think we all know I'm

829
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: going to talk about the bar scene. Blue Post is

830
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: the spot. You know, we were friends with the owners

831
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: when we were there, still friends with the owners in fact.

832
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: So over the Christmas break, Jeffrey had to shoot a

833
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: movie and they shot the entire movie without him, like

834
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: in l A or somewhere else. And then they just

835
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: had to shoot his coverage. They had like a body

836
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: double for him, so I literally just needed to shoot

837
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: his coverage. And we were in the Outer Banks and

838
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: they were like, we'll meet you in Wilmington. We need

839
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: a bar, but everything's closed for COVID, so where like

840
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: where can we shoot? And so I called Barbara Wheaton,

841
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 1: the owner of Blue Post, and was like, yo, girl,

842
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: my Husban's got to do a movie. Can they your

843
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: And she was like, oh my god. Yes. So they

844
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: opened it up for this you know, this production. Um,

845
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: but it will only be Jeffrey's side. Oh my god.

846
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: So it was really cool. I think they actually they

847
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: had to double like sand dunes in the desert and

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Speaker 1: so they drove off to Carolina Beach in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the night and cheated the beach for the desert,

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Speaker 1: which is that's the magic of movie making. Magic. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Go Post is great and Yosaki like karaoke was so

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Speaker 1: so fun. And if you go to Blue Post, look

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Speaker 1: for our look for our little placards because Blue Post

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Speaker 1: has a beer list. You will not get through it

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Speaker 1: in three days. Our friend Jacob and Courtney and Marissa,

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Speaker 1: but it took us all a while. I think it's

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Speaker 1: like sixty four beers or something, and some of them

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Speaker 1: are discussing on purpose, and you have to drink all

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Speaker 1: of them, and then you get a little placard on

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Speaker 1: the wall with you do it. Of course I did it.

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Speaker 1: I did that. I did it. I was like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah. I was like, give me, give me all

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Speaker 1: the beers. Let's do this. I want to leave my

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Speaker 1: mark on Wilton in this bar. Your face has painted

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Speaker 1: on the side of the studio, but you're like a

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Speaker 1: little placard on that post. And I think they're like,

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Speaker 1: they're honestly like little plastic name tags that just get

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Speaker 1: hot glued to the wall. Baby, someone stole yours, I

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Speaker 1: would be so sad that felt in my name. If you,

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Speaker 1: if you did steal it, give it back. If you

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Speaker 1: stole it, please return it. Thank you, thank you very much. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: whoever bought that should honestly sell it to you. That

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00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: would be a nice thing for them. Guys. They like

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00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: shifted across the ocean, which is a huge compliment. It's

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Speaker 1: in Australia. I heard. Really that's a huge compliment that

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Speaker 1: someone wanted. So what I hear you saying is that

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Speaker 1: we also need to take our road show of drama

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Speaker 1: queens to Australia, and these people need to give us

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Speaker 1: a ride to our event eventually in your b So

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Speaker 1: if you'all could just get vaxed so we could come

881
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: and we would love it. Okay, what is next? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we have a question from Katie. Katie says, if

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Speaker 1: you were the parent to Brook, Haley and Peyton and

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Speaker 1: or Peyton, what advice would you have given them to

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Speaker 1: help them get through high school? I mean, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: are we going to talk for another forty five minutes? Um? Atlanta? Um?

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Speaker 1: Should we just give advice for our characters, like as

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Speaker 1: our respective, like a parent to our characters? Yes, that

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00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: makes sense. I would have told Haley, um, it's okay

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Speaker 1: to make mistakes. Don't worry so much about about being

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Speaker 1: perfect and trying to control everything. Just let let yourself

892
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Speaker 1: be messy if you need to, and just experience, experiment

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00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: and experience life. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I would tell Peyton, baby,

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Speaker 1: got the whole rest of your life to be a

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Speaker 1: grown up, you know, don't rush it, just be goofy.

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Speaker 1: I see, I see myself trying to be goofy in Peyton,

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Speaker 1: but she wasn't written as goofy and so I see

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00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: myself like slumping or like delivering lines kind of goofy

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Speaker 1: um and and yeah, I like when I see kids

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Speaker 1: just acting like dorks. I'd tell Payton to dork it up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would want to give that that advice to Brook

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Speaker 1: also and actually enjoy. It's so funny. What comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but remember when

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00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: we were in Wilmington's and you started asking us to

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00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: do those twenty questions answers for you my blog, and

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00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: you asked me to write advice to my younger self.

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Speaker 1: And it feels so right for Brooke, especially as we've

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Speaker 1: just unpacked some of her performative fear in this episode.

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Speaker 1: Um but but I remember saying, don't worry so much

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Speaker 1: about being someone else's definition of enough. You already are.

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Speaker 1: And I just would want for her to feel that

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Speaker 1: she was enough, that she didn't have to prove, or

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Speaker 1: live up to, or or convince anyone of anything. I

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Speaker 1: love that you guys are totally enough. You're more than

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Speaker 1: enough for me, you are. We hope you're having fun

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Speaker 1: with us, We hope you're learning some things, and you

917
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Speaker 1: know it's sparking conversations between you and your friends as well,

918
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Speaker 1: and we're just so grateful that you're tuning in. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us for another episode of Drama Queens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: next week we have episode five, all that you Can't

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Speaker 1: leave behind. I have no idea what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm here. I mean, Lucas is mad at Haley and

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00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: Nathan or on the verge of breaking up, and something's

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Speaker 1: going on with Brooken this next episode. I think too.

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Speaker 1: I have to are you're probably going to make a move.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to make a move on the boy?

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Speaker 1: Don't know, guys, I don't remember. Well, we're gonna find

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Speaker 1: out real soon. We love you, guys. Thank you, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.

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Speaker 1: are all about that high school drama girl, drama girl,

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