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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown. Wanna throw by

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray that defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: All that was nasty right there?

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Speaker 2: Rights Slamm the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to hit send on a tweet. Can I

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Speaker 2: still call it a tweet? I'm gonna read this off

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Speaker 2: and you got tell me if you agree or disagree,

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Speaker 2: and I know you will. Danny Surrek Darren urban purveyor

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Speaker 2: of everything Arizona Cardinals, And I quote myself, I guess

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Speaker 2: top three most memorable Arizona Cardinals I've ever covered period.

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Speaker 2: Never seen a rookie generate such instant buzz among NFL

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Speaker 2: vets in the practice field period. His appearance on The

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Speaker 2: Big Red Rage twenty thirteen was so insightful, honest and raw.

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Speaker 2: It might be my favorite episode ever. And I'm going

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Speaker 2: to hit send even though both of you look completely underwhelmed,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I'm going to hit send, and hopefully at

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Speaker 2: this point you know who I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: Normally you include a hashtager too.

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Speaker 4: Hashtag honey Badger.

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Speaker 2: I knew there was snark coming, Yeah, I just know

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Speaker 2: what kind of snark or from what direction. So okay,

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Speaker 2: you guys lived up to your sky and report so far.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say it is nice to have a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a change of scenery because now when I'm

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Speaker 3: looking across the table at you, the Paul COWVC training

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Speaker 3: can't mustache has come in full swing and it looks great.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to say it would light the lamp, but

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Speaker 2: no one's lighting the lamp today. I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: tell you that right now. It might have been a

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Speaker 2: power failure of some sort, but I think it's apropos

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Speaker 2: that it's impossible to light the lamp because expectations are

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Speaker 2: high going into camp, and compliments and plaudits are going

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Speaker 2: to be low, going to be very hard to come

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Speaker 2: by at the beginning to camp.

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Speaker 4: Well, so then we're going to reserve our compliments for

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Speaker 4: Tyron Matthew and what a great career you have exactly.

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Speaker 4: I don't want I don't want to get off of

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Speaker 4: that too quickly, Paul.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that at some point unless you want

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Speaker 4: H no, right, wait, we can absolutely wait.

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Speaker 2: Okay, twas the podcast before the start of camp, and Danny,

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Speaker 2: let's just say the mustache is a camp body at best,

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Speaker 2: definitely not winning behavior, which we'll get to a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on. This edition of Cardinals Underground brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Pacific Office Automation, but we thought we'd bring

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Speaker 2: it for a little levity get us through the dog days.

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Speaker 4: Here's the question, and I'm sure I've asked this question

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Speaker 4: of the camp stash before. How does the significant other

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Speaker 4: when it comes to men's facial hair, feel very strongly

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Speaker 4: grow it out like Lumberjack. He I think if he

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Speaker 2: So it's two thumbs down. Let's just put it that, okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's that's my forecast.

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Speaker 3: If there's ever been a better tease of if you're

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Speaker 4: And and just for clarity's sake, the first day of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a very public appearance that might be

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Speaker 2: But when you think of a report day, and you

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Speaker 4: I mean, for me, I think if we're talking big picture,

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Speaker 4: to me. That's what's going to be hovering around this team.

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Speaker 4: And I know there's a billion other things we could

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Speaker 4: to me, the overriding kind of thought to me, Danny.

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Speaker 3: Competition, that's the first word that comes to mind, and

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Speaker 3: it's a different type of competition as you start to

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Speaker 3: cornerbacks room, where there's still some question marks of what

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Speaker 3: do you have in rookie Will Johnson? Is he possibly

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Speaker 2: Especially since there are gonna be players who don't make

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Speaker 2: that is definitely different than last year.

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Speaker 4: Year. It should it should? We talk about that a lot,

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Speaker 4: you're a very specific player. Sometimes it's easier for the

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Speaker 4: so there isn't as much Hey we cut this guy,

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Speaker 4: He ended up on the practice card all year. So

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Speaker 4: we'll we'll see. However, I one hundred percent agree with

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Speaker 4: you the level of personnel has been raised. I agree

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Speaker 4: with Danny the competition will be better. I think the

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Speaker 4: cuts will be more interesting. You know, we'll see if

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Speaker 4: they end up losing somebody they'd rather not because of that.

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Speaker 4: But it absolutely is going to be fascinating how they

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Speaker 4: carve up this fifty three man roster when it's all

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Speaker 2: I jotted this down top players who might be camp cuts.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to come out of the gates here

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Speaker 3: To officially start.

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Speaker 2: It's great, you know what, You're right? Where is the oven?

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Speaker 2: If I had it right now? Ok right exactly? It

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Speaker 2: the on the lamp. Okay, here, I'll get to these ready, Okay,

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Speaker 4: You ever cared if we're ready or not, just tell.

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Speaker 2: Us Ball Nichols, Justin Jones, Zay Jones, Xavier Thomas, and

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Speaker 2: Jonah Williams, Jalen Thompson, whoa Toms I was with you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Those last two threw me, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Where is Jonah Williams in terms of the rehab and

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Speaker 2: the recovery if he's deemed healthy but he isn't hasn't

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Speaker 2: I do wonder about that again. These are way off

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Speaker 2: is one hundre percent contract motivated. He's still one of

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Speaker 2: your best eleven on defense. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Him and Buddha are like you know, they are in

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Speaker 2: I get it. I think he's underappreciated, but he's also

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Speaker 3: That would be a very hard decision. I don't even

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely a fair question. I don't know that

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Speaker 3: he would be cut given the money this team gave

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Speaker 3: him last free agency to come in and be your

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Speaker 3: would see more as putting him on ir to start

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Speaker 3: that has a trickle down effect. That's really interesting because

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Speaker 3: it's a numbers game, and so can this front office?

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Speaker 3: Can this team afford to have two swing tackles? And

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Speaker 3: the position on the offensive line. So if you have

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Speaker 4: And as a reminder to everybody, they've changed the IR

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Speaker 4: I guess I should say in previous years you had

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Speaker 4: anybody on IR. Yep, then you could put guys on IR,

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Speaker 4: but it would make you get down to fifty three

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Speaker 2: Good to know we have cuts.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was. It was at the end. But

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Speaker 4: So it is what it is. I mean, people can

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, Will Johnson is legit top fifteen, top

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Speaker 3: No, My smile over here on the other side of

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Speaker 4: No, it's not a problem. Again, you measure is he

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Speaker 2: Garrett Williams, Why do we always forget about Garrett Williams

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Speaker 3: you're going to look for in someone, given how he

435
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 3: prepares and how he studies and takes notes every week,

436
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: his high IQ which we still hear about his combine

437
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 3: meeting from the coach and the general manager a couple

438
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 3: of years ago. That's the type of player you would

439
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: want to learn from.

440
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 2: If Sean Murphy Bunting was actually healthy, I would love

441
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: to get a look at Garrett Williams outside if you

442
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: were to put SMB inside where he had his best

443
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 2: year according most of the analysts for Tampa when they

444
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. But to your point, he is

445
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: locked in at the nickel corner right now. He's I mean,

446
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: if he isn't already there, he's definitely tracking to be

447
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 2: one of the best in the league here in year

448
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: number three. So that being the case, give me, give

449
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 2: me either the storyline or the player you're most looking

450
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 2: forward to seeing at camp. Honestly, I think I named

451
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: mine and Will Johnson I'll pick another one. I just

452
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see because man, what happens if Will

453
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: Johnson is a legit cornerback one? What does that do

454
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 2: for this defense? So that's intriguing to me. If you're

455
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 2: still thinking, Darren, I know I got some Okay.

456
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 4: Go ahead, I think I'm gonna go with Darius Robinson.

457
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 4: I think people are gonna be talking about Walter Nolan

458
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 4: because he just got drafted. When they look at the

459
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 4: defensive line, they're gonna be like, oh, kalais Campbell's back,

460
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: and hey, let's see what Josh Sweat is doing, or

461
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 4: even Dalvin Tomlinson. And I think there's a little bit

462
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: of after everything that happened, Darius Robinson under the radar,

463
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 4: and we all remember how impactful he looked in training

464
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: camp last year and we got to get to those guys.

465
00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 4: But I really believe that given what he's been around

466
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 4: and everything, I believe he's got a real chance to

467
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: be a difference maker this year. That I mean, people

468
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 4: are going to talk about him, but not They're not

469
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 4: going to talk about him like they did last year,

470
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 4: and I think he's got a chance to be in there.

471
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 4: I saw some ranking. I don't know who did it,

472
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 4: to be honest, I saw it on social media, but

473
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: somebody made the point that they were ranking defensive lines

474
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 4: and they have the Cardinals at twenty fifth in the NFL.

475
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: That's worse than they finished last year. I know are

476
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 2: ranked twenty fourth.

477
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 4: That's I thought that was weird.

478
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: So I love that answer on Robinson. I'll go offense,

479
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: and I'll go Michael Wilson. We've talked a lot about

480
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: this offseason. Is he your true number two receiver? And

481
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: you can only learn so much really throughout camp of

482
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: what kind of contact you can see, even with pads,

483
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: So that might not be something that we really have

484
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: an answer for until Week one, but I'm hoping to

485
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 3: get a closer look of that throughout camp this year

486
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: because that's something we've been talking about is and Wilson

487
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 3: was clear about that one he spoke with the media

488
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: recently as well as he wants to show up on

489
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: the statue more. You know, he is praised as a

490
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 3: very good blocking receiver and he's had some sparks in

491
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: his time here in Arizona, but he wants to be

492
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: more involved and the Cardinals could absolutely use him as

493
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: a more involved piece of this offense, especially as they

494
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: tried to really elevate the passing game in that deep

495
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: threat compared to last year. My deep dive, my first

496
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 3: thought for that question was also a wide receiver in

497
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: that Xavier Weaver. We saw him with a few good routes,

498
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: some deep routes, some speed last year training camp, spent

499
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: the year on the practice squad. So what has he

500
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: been working on to get to this point? And that's

501
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: a position room where I mean, you mentioned Zay Jones

502
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: as one of the names you're keeping an eye on

503
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 3: to maybe make this fifty three man roster or maybe not.

504
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 3: That's kind of a sneaky position room where below one

505
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: and two of Marvin Harrison, junior Michael Wilson, how's the

506
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: rest of that room going to shake out? I think

507
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: there's an opportunity for a player like Weaver to shine and.

508
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: And one of the reasons I put Zay Jones on

509
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: the list. They kept a half dozen receivers in the

510
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: final fifty three last year. I don't see the Arizona

511
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: Cardinals keeping a half dozen receivers this year. They're two

512
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: loaded on the defensive front. I think there are too

513
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: many young offensive linemen you might want to keep, and

514
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: then the cornerback room obviously is loaded and deep. So

515
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna be it's sort of a low key competitive

516
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: room for having done nothing really in terms of adding

517
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: to that room, It's gonna be very competitive.

518
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: Absolutely, when you talk about the numbers game, if we're

519
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 3: talking about the personnel on that defensive line room specifically,

520
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: they carried six on the final roster last year, I

521
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 3: could absolutely see that number jumping up to seven. You

522
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: got to pull that number from somewhere. I think the

523
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: wide receiver's room is a good room to have your

524
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: eye on for that.

525
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: I want to go Trey Benson. I think he's gonna

526
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: be ridiculous this year. But to me, the position or

527
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: the storyline I'm gonna be looking at the most would

528
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: be middle linebacker. Who's calling the defense? How exactly are

529
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: they going to structure it? What didn't they like about

530
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: Kaizer White a year ago, he played the second most

531
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: snaps to boot A Baker on defense. It's not like

532
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: he got benched, but it never seemed to be a

533
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: serious consideration to bring back team captain Kaizer White. So

534
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: what didn't he provide that they're looking for this year?

535
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: I'm not sure we ever got a definitive answer to that.

536
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: We didn't. I mean, by some of the metrics we've

537
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 4: seen out there, said he kind of struggled in coverage.

538
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: I think it's important for them to have some speed,

539
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 4: sideline a sideline, and I don't know if he gave

540
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: them enough of that. You know, maybe they just felt

541
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: like the need is they just needed to try and

542
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 4: find something, and he just wasn't high enough level where

543
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 4: they could find somebody else. Here's another theory. This is

544
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 4: a complete you know, I'm throwing stuff at the water.

545
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: I had the other minute. I give it to you.

546
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 4: What if they don't you that position very much? Well?

547
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 2: What what what if?

548
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 4: What if Mac Wilson is essentially the one inside linebacker

549
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 4: You've mentioned Zavon Collins before. They'll definitely move him into

550
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: They'll move him everywhere. So every once in a while

551
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: you might have Zavian inside. But we already talked about

552
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 4: all the secondary. Yeah, I mean you're talking about what

553
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 4: do they do with Jalen Thompson. Could they move on

554
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: from what if they just decide we're gonna start playing

555
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: three safeties all the time, like and three defensive back

556
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: and three corners. And you're and you're mixing and matching

557
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: and doing it more that.

558
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: Way, playing a lot of dime and and.

559
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: And you use Buddha Baker more. I don't want to

560
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 4: say more as a linebacker because he's not. But you're

561
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: gonna give him a little bit of movement. You've upgraded

562
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: the defensive line of the point that you're hoping you're

563
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: stout enough with four guys, and then all of a sudden,

564
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: you got a lot of versatility and and and so

565
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: with that thought in mind, maybe you don't need somebody

566
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: who's going to be out there all the snaps and

567
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: you can have it with the UH once in a

568
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: while in certain situations with Cody Simon or Keen Davis

569
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: Gaither or Owen Papo or whatever.

570
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Owen Papo, by the way, is the under the

571
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: radar guy at inside linebacker, right the freak.

572
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: Two girlfriend his girlfriend was, Yeah, that was good.

573
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: That was good. I like that, though there's a lot

574
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: to chew on right there. A the first point you

575
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: made might be, you know, the most substitive that I

576
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: could prove to be right on Zamon Collins. Moving along

577
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: quickly from that, the whole Buddha Baker. You think you

578
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: unlocked him last year with a career high one hundred

579
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: and sixty four tackles and ten tackles for loss. I

580
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: was trying to explain the game of football to Wolf

581
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago on air, and I said,

582
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: if this team can make the playoffs, get some national exposure,

583
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: you know, get some primetime games in the last five

584
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: to six weeks, get some games flexed in like we

585
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: called four against Tampa in Week thirteen. Right, all of

586
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: a sudden, you're getting some of that buzz around the team,

587
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: all of a sudden. Buddha Baker could be a potential

588
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year candidate if he puts some

589
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: similar numbers like he did a year ago. If Patrick

590
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: Sartan the second can do it NFL Defensive Player of

591
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: the Year, Buddha Baker most definitely can. And now if

592
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: Rabbit is a seeking destroy guy and he's out there

593
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: with Jalen Thompson. I like that a lot because really

594
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: what they do with Buddha Bakeryargo is make him the

595
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 2: Troy Polamalo of box safeties. Paula Mala used to use

596
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: all his instincts and roam around center field and in space.

597
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: Boota really did that in the box. So to your point, Darren, yeah,

598
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: it could sort of be a pseudo linebacker in a way.

599
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 4: I mean again, I'm guessing. I don't know. You know,

600
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: we did not have the opportunity to report on what

601
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: they were doing in the off season, even when we

602
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 4: were around for that stuff. And I still think it's

603
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: all a work in progress. But I know we've talked

604
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: on this on the air before about what happens when

605
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: Nick Roulis upgrades his personnel. Does that mean he does

606
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: less of the scheming or does he have just cooler

607
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: players to do the scheming with? And I don't know.

608
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: The more I think about Originally I used to think

609
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: he just needs he just wants better players, And now

610
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: I'm starting to think, no, he just he's got more

611
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 4: advanced toys to put into a system.

612
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: And look, we can't report on what happened to mandatory

613
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: mini camp, But I will say a couple of sources

614
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 2: relayed that the defense in the eleven on eleven gave

615
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: the offense all it could handle and then some. So

616
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: if you're coming out to Cardinals camp, keep an eye

617
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: on a defense that is definitely, definitely tracking to be

618
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: night and day from a year ago.

619
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: We are blessed to be sitting here. The fact that

620
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: some of the storylines we are not covering when you're

621
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: looking around the league, are any sort of holdouts or

622
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: contract disputes. And also quarterback, I mean we're talking, I

623
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: mean we backup. Quarterback is a battle you bring in

624
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: Jacobe Brissett, Clayton Tune. We're lucky enough that the Cardinals

625
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: have Kyler Murray, right, You've got that set. That's still

626
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: a battle though, and what you're going to do back there, Although.

627
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: Truth be told, when I saw the Will Levis news

628
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: that he's done for the your shoulder surgery, I'm like,

629
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: trade them, Clayton Tune.

630
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: You're going to need a similar bodied quarterback.

631
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: They need a bage did you see they based on

632
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: the personnel they have in there, Like I think it's

633
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: Tim Boyle and I forget who else. Yeah, Clayton tune.

634
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 4: Is Tim Boyle that much different than will love us.

635
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: Let's get some winning behavior here. I think we need

636
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: to coach up Darren. You know he's living off that

637
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: really good point he made all of thirty seven seconds ago.

638
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: We need to keep them humble around here. Let's get

639
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: some winning behavior, and that definitely does not include the mustache.

640
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: Can you display winning behavior?

641
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: You have to consistently display winning behavior. That's winning behavior.

642
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

643
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: people to that standard.

644
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Danny brought up contracts pass rushers.

645
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: T J.

646
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: Watt reset the market, right he did. He's the highest

647
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: paid non quarterback in the league for now.

648
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: Until the next contract, spoken.

649
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: Like a grizzled member of the media. For now TJ.

650
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Watt forty one million per year. And my instant thought

651
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Speaker 2: on that, thanks for asking when I saw that news was, man,

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Speaker 2: you know what they say a collector car auctions, when

653
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Speaker 2: somebody supposedly gets a really good deal on a collector car.

654
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: During the auction, they say the end. Now, don't you

655
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: guys ever watch the car auctions in January? Come on?

656
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 2: So the announcers always say, well, Bob, that was really

657
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: well bought. Josh Sweat looks like a free agent at

658
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: this point, it was really well bought when he's averaging

659
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Speaker 2: nineteen million per year. Considering some of these other pass

660
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Speaker 2: miles Garrett TJ. Watt, I get I get it. They're

661
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: the elite of the elite, I guess.

662
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: And Josh Sweat's averaging under double digit sacks in his career.

663
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Speaker 4: It there's a difference.

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Speaker 2: But yes, in terms of the guaranteed money, in terms

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Speaker 2: of the annual you know, I mean, even George carr

666
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Speaker 2: Loftis just got four years ninety three million was sixty

667
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: two million guaranteed.

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Speaker 4: I remember when George car Loftis was mocked to this

669
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Speaker 4: team a billion times that one. True, I forget what.

670
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Speaker 2: Year that one, but just like receiver was mocked to

671
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Speaker 2: this team this year, Yeah, yeah, a million times. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you guys with me on that? I mean,

673
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: at least so far on paper, Josh Sweat pretty well bought.

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Speaker 4: I would I would agree with that, And it's only

675
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 4: gonna seem even more well bought after Micah Parsons and

676
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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson.

677
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: True.

678
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, especially since Sweat hot options.

679
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: Okay, where do you guys want to go with this

680
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: next year. Unwinning behavior.

681
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Speaker 4: You know you're you're not driving the show, buddy. Okay,

682
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: pick a topic we can talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Darren is a wordsmith yourself. I'm going to say

684
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: something you can agree or disagree, or true or false.

685
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: One of the top five words in the English language

686
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: is canoodling.

687
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Speaker 4: I never had it ranked, but but clearly it deserves

688
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Speaker 4: to be in the conversation.

689
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Speaker 2: Yes, my challenge to you during camp, like the dog days,

690
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: you like when you get around to writing the story

691
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: on the long Snapper, that's when you know camp's about Dan.

692
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: My challenge you is the work in the verb canoodle.

693
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Speaker 4: It's it's funny you bring that up somewhere. Quick side note,

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Speaker 4: at some point, I know a writer that once upon

695
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Speaker 4: a time, a sports writer who's he wanted every game

696
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Speaker 4: story he did. He wanted to work in the world

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Speaker 4: word malfeasance.

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Speaker 2: Okay, anyways, yeah.

699
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Speaker 4: Ca noodling, you're talking about the Coldplay couple.

700
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: Yes, we are a couple.

701
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they were a couple. That's the whole problem,

702
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 4: isn't it. Daniel. And we're not talking about Love Island here, No,

703
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: we're not.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know, we didn't even talk about the season finale.

705
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: That's okay, I got to catch you guys to move

706
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: on from that afterwards.

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Speaker 2: How much more outrageous is Love Island than the JumboTron video?

708
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Speaker 3: Different? I mean, look, I don't have any let me

709
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: make it very clear. I don't have any experience in this,

710
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: but if you're having an affair and you're on the JumboTron,

711
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: maybe don't immediately act the way that those two did

712
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: and act cool, because then no one's going to think

713
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: anything of it. The fact that the CEO.

714
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: Was canoodling the former CEO, by the former.

715
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: CEO was canoodling the head of HR, and they're not

716
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: they're married to different people, and then you have someone

717
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 3: else in the HR department standing right next to them.

718
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: Was that true?

719
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:13,919
Speaker 2: Though?

720
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Speaker 4: I saw something later that said that they The third

721
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: person wasn't somebody else.

722
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Speaker 3: I saw she was someone who was recently promoted.

723
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Speaker 4: I saw that and then it was like, that's not

724
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Speaker 4: the same.

725
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Speaker 3: There was a lot going on online.

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Speaker 4: Number one. I'm gonna say, also, don't have an affair,

727
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: don't have any experience in this thing. But I'm like,

728
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: if you're trying to keep something hidden and you see

729
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 4: yourself on a jumbo tryning. I don't know in the

730
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 4: moment you're thinking to yourself, I'm gonna play this cool.

731
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if that happens two. All I could

732
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 4: think of is like the multiple people and this happened

733
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 4: right away is almost every day there's a main character

734
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: on Twitter, and you never want to be the main

735
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: character on Twitter. And not only were they the main

736
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 4: character on Twitter, it lasted like two days.

737
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Speaker 3: Did you see what sports venues were doing instead of

738
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Speaker 3: the kids cam? The cold Play cam?

739
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: Oh brutal. I mean, they were on the cover of

740
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 4: the New York Post. Now, I'm not going to excuse

741
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 4: what they did by any stretch of the imagination, and

742
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: it's terrible for their families. I'm not one hundred percent

743
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: sure that was worth getting put on a major newspaper cover.

744
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: But I did think to myself, this is the biggest

745
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: non political thing to hit the Internet in a long time.

746
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 4: It really, it really did mean every passing moment, not

747
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: winning behavior, every passing.

748
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Moment of every day for like four or five days.

749
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: Hashtag it can always get worse. They were the embodyy

750
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: of that the Coldplay couple. Oh my goodness. All right,

751
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: you know what's worse and it's not well bought? What

752
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: is this story about? Something from the Orson Wells class

753
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: of nineteen forty Okay, two.

754
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: That came up in the same week. I couldn't believe this.

755
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: Two iconic things from movies showed up and got purchased.

756
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: One you mentioned Rosebud. Now, a lot of people have

757
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: not seen Citizen kan I'm pretty sure that wasn't on

758
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: Danny's list of movie to watch. But Citizen Kane one

759
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: of the most famous movies of all time. Orson Wells

760
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: did it Rosebud? Long story short, The movie is about

761
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: a tycoon. It was loosely based on the life of

762
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: William Randolph Hurst. I'm not going to get into a

763
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: whole bunch of things, but and sorry, this is going

764
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: to be a spoiler. But it came out in nineteen

765
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 4: forty one, so if you haven't seen it, what the hell?

766
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: Let me take my headphones off.

767
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: Okay, you do that. He kept referring to Rosebud all

768
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: during the movie. And it turns out Rosebud was a

769
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: sled that he had when he was a child. So

770
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: the original Rosebud was there and on auction and movie prop.

771
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: The movie prop got sold for fourteen point seventy five

772
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 4: million dollars.

773
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: Okay, what are you doing about that much money to

774
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: just spend on something like that?

775
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: Good use, I mean, a piece of cinema history. But

776
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: still that's a lot of money. But I don't know

777
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 4: how this next one, how much the next one went for.

778
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: But another fine cinematic classic, pee weee'z Big Adventure, a

779
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 4: fine fine movie in its own right, The Alamo where

780
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 4: pee Wee ended up at one point during the movie

781
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: when he was trying to rescue his bike in that movie,

782
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: and again, you need to see the movie. I mean,

783
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 4: if you're going to see all of the Purge movies,

784
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 4: you need to see pee Wee's Big Adventure.

785
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: I really made a point during the eighties it' all

786
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: had disdain for the hair bands and Tewee Herman.

787
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 4: That's fair. Oh, I can't believe he said hairbands. Where

788
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: we haven't even gotten to Aussi yet.

789
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: And don't call Azzi a hairband, come on please.

790
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: And and the Alamo ends up with pee weee'z bike

791
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: and they're gonna put it on display at the Alimal,

792
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: which is fantastic if you've ever seen that movie.

793
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: When I saw the headline Alamo has acquired Pee Wee's bike.

794
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: I thought the rental car company. Yeah, San Antonio again because.

795
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: You're not going to see the movie.

796
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: What the hell?

797
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: By the way, as someone who rented a few cars

798
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: though the last couple of weeks, is there a better

799
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: three words in the English language than it's a rental

800
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: as you hit a curb or jump a curb? Not

801
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: good rest in peace? Three letters rip Ozzy Osbourne. Wow, Yes,

802
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: seventy six years of age?

803
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: You feel old now?

804
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Like a week after he actually was on stage at

805
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: a concert.

806
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: Very emotional last concert that he had. But yeah, I

807
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: mean again, I.

808
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: Mean at Brett Hart Junior High School, the boombox song

809
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: of choice was Ozzy in Crazy Train. I'm just gonna

810
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: say that right now.

811
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait where Brett.

812
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: Hart Junior High School after the wrestler, when all when

813
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 2: everyone would walk around with the boomboxes, Crazy Train was

814
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: the song you played between classes.

815
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: Look, I'm well aware of Ozzie's impact on my childhood

816
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: and everywhere in middle school, in high school. I want

817
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: to get back to the part where you're talking about

818
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: your middle school being named after a wrestler.

819
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Can you do your California history. Okay, discovered, discover the

820
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: state of California. Go ahead, Danny please.

821
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: I know we don't have to save dar own ignorance.

822
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: We don't have Getting Cultured officially this week. However, I

823
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: do have to culture you both on Ozzy Osbourne, so

824
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: kind of I can say this. I have to tell

825
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: you about the lore of an influencer named Tricia Padis

826
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: and lore paul is like the backstory the history of something. Okay,

827
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: there you go, that's your getting cultured. You can use

828
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: that with your kids around the dinner table.

829
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: Team And if this is really good, can I say

830
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: that's pretty sauce?

831
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: You do not have my permission to say that. No,

832
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: So look, I don't know what she's famous for. I

833
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: just know that she is an influencer, and honestly, it

834
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: almost feels like she might be doing a little bit

835
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: of witchcraft because whenever she gives birth, which has been

836
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: three times now, it has been the same day as

837
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: some influential person passing away. Her first born was a

838
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: baby girl named Malibu Barbie kid you Not, was born

839
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: the same day that she QUEANTRT Middle School was born

840
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: the same day that Queen Elizabeth the second died, so

841
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: it kind of became oh, was the queen you know,

842
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 3: reincarnated as her baby? Haha. Well then it didn't become

843
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: so funny when she gave birth to her second child,

844
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: her daughter named Elvis, which was the same her daughter

845
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: named Elvis, which was the same day that Pope Francis died.

846
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: So then she gives birth to her third child, a

847
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: boy named Aquaman, the day that Ozzie passes away. There's

848
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: there's that is some deep getting calls.

849
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: Maybe you should have told this sis ahead of time

850
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 4: because there's so much there to unpack and we don't

851
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: have time.

852
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: I don't really have answers. I don't really know much

853
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: about her. If you have questions, you can ask Caitlin,

854
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: our team photographer, who seems to know more about her history.

855
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 4: The the Murderers role. I probably shouldn't use that term,

856
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 4: but the lineup of Queen Elizabeth, a Pope, and Ozzy

857
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 4: Osbourne is just in itself.

858
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't know this was gonna be on

859
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: the test. I thought I was supposed to come with

860
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: like some tire in Matthew recollections, you know, of his

861
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: Cardinals career. So it's way beyond what I expected to

862
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: be on the test.

863
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: Still study those for a wise guy against I.

864
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: Guess, so so wow, So there you go.

865
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 4: Okay, are you gonna be able to bring this back

866
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 4: to uh to reality?

867
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Speaker 4: Will effort trying to get Aquaman and Elvis there.

878
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: Mal Honestly, it kind of here's the segue. It reminds

879
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: me of some of the names in questions submitted in

880
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: the mailbag, Darren Urban, Right, you get a variety of

881
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: names and questions, and one this week, what production do

882
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: the Cardinals need from Josh Sweat to have this prove

883
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: to be a good signing, I'll clean some of the language.

884
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of interesting because the thought

885
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 4: process was what we were talking about, which is he

886
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 4: hasn't had a lot of seasons with a ton of sacks.

887
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: Is it are they paying him to be all of

888
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 4: a sudden be that and after all these years in

889
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: the league, is he could he still be that? Or

890
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 4: is it more of like that kind of culture bringing

891
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 4: a guy who's won a lot of games, who has

892
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: familiarity with Nick rollis I think it's interesting to ask

893
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 4: those questions.

894
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: There's a lot of back and forth. A lot of

895
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: Eagles fans will say, you know, he had a pretty quiet,

896
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: mediocre regular season then balled out in the postseason. The

897
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: counterpoint to that is, well, Vic Fangio sort of changed

898
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: the scheme in the postseason, especially in the Super Bowl.

899
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: To hear Josh Sweat to and he sat right in

900
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: that chair and he gave us the story. He said,

901
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: you know what, he came in with a game plan

902
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: and was just unleash, unlocked, just go get him, just attack.

903
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: And that's exactly how Jonathan Gannon used Josh Sweat and

904
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: got a couple career years out of him. So if

905
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: the Cardinals use him in that manner, that's why they think,

906
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: you know, by low sell high, that they're going to

907
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: get more out of him. There's more under the hood.

908
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: Not to mention, you had a pretty loaded defensive front

909
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, so maybe he'll be featured more with the Cardinals.

910
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: We'll get more reps, more bites of the apple. To me,

911
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: that's one of the intriguing things. Okay, if he's truly

912
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: the first pass rusher the Cardinals have had that an

913
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: opposing offensive coordinator has to game plan for the first

914
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: since Chandler Jones, then are they going to forego the

915
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: typical rotations and let him stay out on the field

916
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: longer then we've seen edge rushers the last couple of years.

917
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: I would expect so, especially with the money you gave Sweat.

918
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: The word he used was freedom in how he played

919
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia with Rallison Gannon, and that even though he

920
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 3: was only out here for the mandatory mini Caan't practices

921
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 3: and again no pads, he said that he could already

922
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: feel he would have a similar type of freedom. Look,

923
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: I know we don't like to normally give numbers with

924
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: expectations because of all the reasons, Darren was just saying,

925
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: of you don't know what the game plan is going

926
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: to be the larger scheme, right, what's really going to

927
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: be asked if I'm at this point in the off season,

928
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: But if you're looking for numbers, last year, Sweat had

929
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: eight sacks, fifteen quarterback hits, nine tackles for loss. If

930
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: we're looking for a good season, which was the question

931
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: of the mailbag, double digit sacks, I would say closer

932
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: to twenty or twenty five quarterback hits and then double

933
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: digit tackles for loss. Right, maybe closer to that fifteen would.

934
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: Be really good year.

935
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, if you're gonna that's what you're gonna

936
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: look for.

937
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: But if you're getting that pressure from the interior, from

938
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: the inside out, if Dalvin Thomason and Koleis Campbell and

939
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: you know, Darius Robinson and Walter Nole in the third,

940
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: if all those guys are in there providing something that

941
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Cardinals haven't gotten a whole lot of the last couple

942
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: of years, partly due to talent and also due to injury,

943
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, once again this can be

944
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: there was a list, and thank goodness, camp Is starting,

945
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: so we're not gonna be dealing with any of these

946
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: lists anymore. But there was a list early in the offseason,

947
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: left after free agency in the draft, and it was

948
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: top five most improved position groups in the NFL. And

949
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: the Cardinals are on that list. Your darn tune, they

950
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: should be. The defensive line is drastically different than it

951
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 2: was the last couple of years.

952
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: Look, there's a lot that plays into this. And when

953
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 4: it comes to Josh Wett, he could have a good

954
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: year and the numbers won't look eye popping, But does

955
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 4: it fit into what they're doing. I mean, we're gonna

956
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 4: see what happens. Obviously they have expectations on them. You're

957
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 4: paying them a certain amount of money. You're hoping you're

958
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: getting a certain amount. But again, you didn't. You didn't

959
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 4: necessarily sign Micah Parsons in his prime. And that's no

960
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: knock on Josh Sweat. But if you're expecting Josh Wet

961
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: to come in here and be Micah Parsons, that's that's

962
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: just foolish.

963
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: I was told we didn't want to talk about Micah

964
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: Parsons and any sort of signings on this podcast.

965
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 4: Well, we can go right into your Dallas capboards, Danny

966
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: don't say your oh boy, sorry, Brian's Golley?

967
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 2: What else Darren is on the radar at the beginning

968
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: of camp? Anything else securely, okay, I'm most curious to

969
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: find out or I'm tracking anything.

970
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting. Again, we mentioned it briefly at the top.

971
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 4: There's the way the CBA has worked. These first few

972
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: days of camp are not hitting. You don't hit until Monday.

973
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 4: They're the first open practice is Thursday, So Thursday and

974
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: Friday and Sunday will be open practices, I believe off

975
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: the top of my head. But there won't be any

976
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 4: hitting until Monday. Keep that in mind. They're working with

977
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: off season rules, as players are allowed to kind of

978
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 4: ease into it a little bit, and we're gonna find out.

979
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how much we've been through

980
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: a couple of Jonathan Gannon camps, so we kind of

981
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 4: know what to expect. I don't expect a lot of

982
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: key players to play in preseason games. I think they're

983
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 4: going to be smart about how they use them in

984
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 4: training camp, and I think there's gonna be a lot

985
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: seen in New Orleans which won't have Tyron Matthew on

986
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: the first game of the season, because we're not going

987
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: to know exactly because they're going to kind of keep

988
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 4: it in the back pocket.

989
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the first storyline the whole more friction. What

990
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: does that look like? What does that mean? There's been

991
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: one fight each of the first two Jonathan Gannon training camps,

992
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: and all four players have been ejected, had to make

993
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: the walk of shame all the way down the field

994
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: and down the ramp and they were done. And last

995
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: year they got aired out as well. Jonathan Gannon was heated,

996
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: and so I think he made his point for anyone

997
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: who was there last year. That's probably been shared to

998
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: players incoming this year. By the way, speaking of Dallas

999
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: real quick, how is it that Dak Prescott ends up

1000
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: at seventy nine on the top one hundred players when

1001
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: he played eight games last year and he has had

1002
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: as many turnovers as he did touchdown passes? And when

1003
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: is this top one hundred going to be over? By

1004
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: the way, it's like to a day, and.

1005
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 4: It's to a day until we're not we're just making

1006
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 4: of the seventies.

1007
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: Paul, Oh my goodness, okay, Which gives us a little

1008
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: time to.

1009
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: Talk about speaking of seventies. How about Paul's mustache.

1010
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: Okay, no good way that in the boat that was

1011
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 4: well done.

1012
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: Letted that out later.

1013
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: I mean, Danny is ready for camp.

1014
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: The light isn't going on for a reason.

1015
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: Danny is ready and the best way.

1016
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: Possible, Paul I just was low hanging through.

1017
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh yeah, there is a moniker that's been attached.

1018
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: It starts with a pe and the mustache that I

1019
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: won't actually pretty share on this. So, speaking of making

1020
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: an impact early in camp like Danny just did, Tyron

1021
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: Matthew was that player in twenty thirteen.

1022
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: Yes, he was.

1023
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't remember a Cardinal's rookie generating a bigger

1024
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: buzz more instantly than a Tyron Matthew. He did a

1025
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 2: rookie mini camp like by the time the veterans got there,

1026
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: they walked off the first practice and they're pointing to

1027
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: the backfield saying, there is a rookie out there, creating

1028
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 2: quite a stir.

1029
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 4: It was the Tyron Matthew think, to me is always

1030
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: intriguing because and.

1031
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: For somebody to do it on defense as well was remarkable.

1032
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 4: Not only on defense, but the spotlight was white hot

1033
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 4: from the moment he showed up because of his situation

1034
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 4: in college, being kicked off the LSU football team, and

1035
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: the Cardinals taking a risk on him. I mean, he

1036
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: didn't go till the third round, but a lot of

1037
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 4: teams were very leary about bringing him in. And I

1038
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: wrote this right when his retirement news came out. It's

1039
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 4: on Easycardinals dot Com. Whatever whatever issues that Tyron Matthew

1040
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 4: might have had before he got to be a pro,

1041
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 4: he was always a pro. From the day he showed up.

1042
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 4: I've never seen a guy. I mean, I'm not going

1043
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: to say he worked harder than anybody I've ever seen,

1044
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 4: but he worked just as hard as anybody I ever saw.

1045
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 4: He wanted to be great. He was. You know, we

1046
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: kind of sometimes look at Buddha Baker saying there's a

1047
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: lot in a small package. I mean, Tyrone was even smaller,

1048
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: and what he brought to the table was amazing. He

1049
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 4: was every bit the dynamic playmaker, and more importantly for me,

1050
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 4: I to find a player, it's been rare to find

1051
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: a player as introspective, as self aware, as intelligent, and

1052
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: as good to talk to as Tyron Matthew. Will always

1053
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 4: be one of my favorites. He still has a few

1054
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 4: times I've gotten to say hi to him since he

1055
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 4: left the Cardinals, I've enjoyed. And he's got a Hall

1056
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: of Fame case too. I think he's built a Hall

1057
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: of Fame case. I don't know if he'll get there,

1058
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: but he's built a Hall of Fame case. And for

1059
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: a guy who tore his ACL twice in his first

1060
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: three seasons, that's pretty amazing.

1061
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, for a guy who ran a four

1062
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 2: or five, he definitely played like he ran a four

1063
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: to three. You just had superior instincts. And he's the

1064
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: epitome of a playmaker. And he got the respect of

1065
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: everybody in that team so quickly. The whole players know players,

1066
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: they knew right away what they had. And just to

1067
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: watch him, just to watch some of the pregame and

1068
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: pre practice antics between Tyrant and Patrick Peterson, throwing the

1069
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: ball around and running around. Just the athleticism, the hand

1070
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 2: eye coordination, it was just stupid. And then for him

1071
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: to go out there and you're right, his rookie year

1072
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: he joined us in the big red rage. He was

1073
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 2: so honest, he was so insightful, he was so raw

1074
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 2: with everything that happened to him that he went through that,

1075
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: he opened up about, talked about Hurricane Katrina, how that

1076
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: upended his life and his family. And then I remember

1077
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: Bruce Arians. Someone posted this on x here with the announcement.

1078
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: Bruce Arians called him his favorite draft pick ever, and

1079
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: he said, well, didn't you have some hesitations about drafting him?

1080
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: A They had Patrick Peterson vouching.

1081
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 4: For him, Yes, because we tired a big part of it.

1082
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: It was and Tyron Matthew had lived with pat PE's

1083
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: parents after he got bounced from LSU. They wanted to

1084
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: get him out of New Orleans, get him out of Louisiana,

1085
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 2: get him away from those influences from his childhood. That

1086
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 2: was a big key in his recovery. But BA said,

1087
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: when I interviewed him before the draft, he took responsibility

1088
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: for everything. If he had blamed anyone else except himself,

1089
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: we wouldn't have drafted him. But he owned everything and

1090
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 2: said he had to be better and he would be

1091
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: better and BEA believed him.

1092
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 4: I just the self awareness and the self accountability was

1093
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: always always struck me. He was always he appreciated other people,

1094
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 4: appreciated what we all did. He just was he's just

1095
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 4: a good person. And you know, again, on a personal level,

1096
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 4: I hated that he ended up leaving here. I understand

1097
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 4: some of the situations, and after his second ACL it

1098
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 4: did take him a long time to get back and

1099
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 4: he was not the same player he was. They wanted

1100
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: to cut his pay. He decided didn't want that. He

1101
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: wanted a fresh start, and he restarted his career and

1102
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 4: got back to that level. People weren't sure, but the

1103
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 4: bottom line is this is a guy who you know,

1104
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 4: I think he was one of the fan favorites. We

1105
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 4: talk about faces of the franchise and sometimes guys come

1106
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 4: in and they whether they want to or not, they're

1107
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: kind of deem that Tyron Matthews, the guy that was

1108
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 4: would have been the face of the franchise for a

1109
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: long time, and he wasn't trying to be. He just

1110
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: he became it because of who he was. And so

1111
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 4: congratulations on a great career and a quick thought.

1112
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: He was before my time, Louise Sharp, but we're talking

1113
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: a multi time Pro bowler and All Pro tackle, one

1114
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: of the best in the game when he was at

1115
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: his best. And really my knowledge of Louis Sharp goes

1116
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: through Ron Wolfley yeah, one of his beloved teammates. And

1117
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: to hear Wolf tell it, Louis Sharp was one of

1118
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: two or maybe three tackles who had a chance against

1119
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor would say, you know what, that

1120
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: guy gives me all I can handle.

1121
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for Louise, his life kind of was the opposite

1122
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 4: of Tyron had it all and then unfortunately drugs got

1123
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: him and he struggled for most of his life, but

1124
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: he recovered his last few years. He was helping people

1125
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 4: that had been in the same situation. As far as

1126
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 4: I believe, he was sober for a number of years

1127
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 4: and tough, but he was. He was a great player,

1128
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: and he was one of the main guys for this

1129
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: team when they first moved to Arizona. Yeah.

1130
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: I didn't realize he played thirteen years for the Arizona Cardinals.

1131
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: First round pick and what eighty two? Yeah, and so

1132
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: there you go. Great player, all right, So Cardinals underground,

1133
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: I guess I have a homework assignment, Danny breakout player

1134
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: a camp. I got to come up with that here

1135
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: and offense and defense.

1136
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I know you have to get special teams some love.

1137
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: It's true. Hey, everyone's under consideration. It's just you know

1138
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: who's going to come out of nowhere and make an impact.

1139
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 2: He make the team. So we had a pretty good

1140
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: year last year after seven year drought, so you know,

1141
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: let's see if you can continue the win streak. Anybody

1142
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: else have any homework assignments?

1143
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 4: No, no homework siens. Just remember to bring a jacket

1144
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 4: to the to the press box because it'll be chilling.

1145
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: That applies to no one unless you have a press pass.

1146
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: So okay, that's good.

1147
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I'm reminding you. I'm not telling the people

1148
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: at large.

1149
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: And uh note to one of us as well. Somebody

1150
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: bring the extension cord next time. Okay, that'll do it.

1151
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