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Speaker 1: Good mornings, Sweel and welcome to the Nodunks Podcast, presented

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Speaker 1: by Fan Duel. It's Wednesday, November twelfth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jayskith here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot boll Boy, Trey Kirby,

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Speaker 1: he hey yoh, and over Yonder making the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button, subscribe

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Speaker 1: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: Will also highlight a few of last night's NBA action.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't as great at night in the NBA as

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Speaker 1: it was the night prior that you guys broke down

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Speaker 1: in great detail with Jason Conception on yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking maybe we should just talk about

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Speaker 2: Monday night's games. Run it back my opinions on we

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Speaker 2: didn't get enough detail.

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Speaker 1: Actually, kind we had another They're entertaining Celtic Sixers game.

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Speaker 1: They always ended.

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Speaker 3: One of the best games going right. Yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 3: into that.

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Speaker 1: But yesterday, Dallas Mavericks owner Patrick Dumont fired general manager

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Speaker 1: Nico Harrison amid the team's disappointing start to the twenty

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Speaker 1: five twenty six season MAVs three and eight record. They

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Speaker 1: ranked twenty ninth in the NBA in scoring. This is

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Speaker 1: just foreign territory for a franchise that damn near always

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Speaker 1: finished in the top ten in offense when Luka Dune

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Speaker 1: was running right show, Yeah, something changed, So Nico Harrison gun.

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Speaker 1: There are two questions you guys reacted to this breaking

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Speaker 1: news on yesterday's pod. But the two questions I feel

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Speaker 1: like everybody is asking is why fire Harrison now? And

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Speaker 1: then what's next for the Dallas Mavericks. Which one of

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Speaker 1: those two cues? What do you want to sing your

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Speaker 1: teeth into? Because you know it is a little shocking. Still,

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Speaker 1: ten eleven games in here, you're out here, buddy, nine

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Speaker 1: months after the Luca trade.

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Speaker 3: I think the present with the present, why now fans

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Speaker 3: hate their team? Yeah, that's the main reason. Players you've

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Speaker 3: read in multiple reports from every Dallas reporter dread playing

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Speaker 3: home games. Tim McMahon had the line, these people don't

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Speaker 3: want us to win. You go online. Cooper Flagg's family

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Speaker 3: is trade tweeting about how it's unfair that a guy

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Speaker 3: that like Cooper Flagg has to deal with the fallout

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Speaker 3: from this. He wasn't there when Luca Donci's got traded,

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Speaker 3: if he had nothing to do with it. But still

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Speaker 3: far your Nico coming down every single time they play

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Speaker 3: throwing this. The American Airlines Centers had a sell out

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Speaker 3: streak that started in two thousand and one. It's over.

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Speaker 3: Intendance is going down. Having Nico Harrison as the GM

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Speaker 3: literally bad for their brand because of the move he

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Speaker 3: made last season trading Quentin Grimes. Also some complicating factors.

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Speaker 3: Luca's averaging thirty seven nine to nine for the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis has played five games and their fourteenth in

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Speaker 3: the Western Conference. But I think it basically comes down

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Speaker 3: to we can't have this guy associated with our team

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Speaker 3: and expect our team, our fans to remain fans of

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Speaker 3: our team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a deep hatred. It's it's sewn into

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Speaker 2: the fabric. It is part of the fabric there. I

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Speaker 2: just start to think would a different achievement on the floor,

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Speaker 2: As you said, Anthony Davis. Isn't there Kyrie Irving got

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Speaker 2: hurt in March. What is the level that they would

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Speaker 2: have had to achieve on the floor to keep Nico

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Speaker 2: Harrison's job? Is there a level would they have been

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Speaker 2: able to get somewhere? Is it a championship? I don't

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Speaker 2: think so. And when I talk about that, when I

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Speaker 2: say that, I'm weighing both sides. Obviously there's going to

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Speaker 2: be hatred forever because you trade.

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Speaker 1: It because it's one of the dumbest trades of al Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, period. But how many championships does it

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Speaker 2: take to offset it? With these business people? They are

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Speaker 2: business people at the top that would say, hmm, okay,

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Speaker 2: you hate us, but are sales in terms of tickets

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Speaker 2: are up, merchandise is up? So where is that? Where

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Speaker 2: is that level? Is it one championship? I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I think it's two championships. And maybe you start to

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Speaker 2: think about it. If Kyrie and Anthony Davis would have

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Speaker 2: to pay three hundred and forty five million dollars for

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Speaker 2: Luka Doncic. We didn't even have to pay Quentin Grimes.

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Speaker 2: What a deal that was. And now we're starting to

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Speaker 2: win basketball games, we can raise the tickets as they

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Speaker 2: did for the twenty five to twenty six season. Another

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Speaker 2: reason why they are going down in ticket sales. It's

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Speaker 2: just a huge mistake after mistake after mistake. So I

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Speaker 2: you got to start to think it's all about the

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Speaker 2: money and would there have been a level I think

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Speaker 2: two championships may have done it.

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Speaker 1: No, hold on, here's the fun hypothetical. If the Mavericks

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Speaker 1: are eleven to zero, but the fans are still chanting, fire, Nico, fire, Nico,

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Speaker 1: Does Nico Harrison still have his job or not?

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Speaker 2: Eleven and no?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're perfect that this.

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Speaker 1: Season, Yes, he would still have his job. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you're looking way in the future. Championships I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about right now. They were if they were six and five,

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Speaker 2: Part of it is Kyrie getting getting injured in March

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Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah. Their run into the play in tournament

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Speaker 2: was horrendous and it ended real quick, and so the

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Speaker 2: hatred continued on into the off season. But the owners

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Speaker 2: coming in and not realizing, oh we can't do this

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Speaker 2: to our fans, care about players, who care about this franchise.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they messed up there obviously to start, and

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Speaker 2: then the injury is just it's snowballed from there.

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein also reported that the final straw may have

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Speaker 1: been Harrison's push to get Anthony Davis medically cleared for

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Speaker 1: Saturday's game against the Wizards, despite him rehabilitating his calf injury.

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Speaker 1: And I guess some members of the staff apparently wanted

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Speaker 1: eighty to continue to rest. You're not ready yet. We've

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Speaker 1: already done this once before with you trying to rush

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Speaker 1: back and that. Patrick Dumont then stepped in and was like,

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Speaker 1: now we're keeping ad out, so maybe again final straw.

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Speaker 1: I know all the fire and Nico chants are having

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Speaker 1: an effect, and Dumont in a statement, Trey said a

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Speaker 1: part of it quote, this decision reflects our continued commitment

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Speaker 1: to building a championship caliber organization. Of course, they always

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Speaker 1: say that one that delivers for our players, our partners,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly are fans. It goes back to exactly

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Speaker 1: what you said. The fans hated them. They were never

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Speaker 1: going to forgive him unless maybe they were eleven to

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Speaker 1: zero and went into multiple championships. But that was unlikely

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Speaker 1: because they traded for a guy that's always injured too.

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Speaker 3: That's the other part of the yeah, exactly. Tim McMahon

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Speaker 3: reported similar stuff on The Hoop Collective that Patrick Dumont

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Speaker 3: return to play, which you know, he didn't play over

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Speaker 3: the weekend, didn't play last night as well. He's got

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Speaker 3: a calf injury, which is pretty hilarious considering it was

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Speaker 3: Luca's calf injury that was part of the reason that

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Speaker 3: Nico didn't think he was going to be a reliable guy.

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Speaker 3: But in that statement from Patrick Dumont, I didn't hear

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Speaker 3: him really taking any accountability. Who signs off on the trade,

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Speaker 3: the big dog, Patrick Dumont. So, yeah, he sat down

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Speaker 3: with Nicholas Dickison and apologized to that guy. Didn't apologize

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Speaker 3: to the fans except for just Nick dick I don't know, uh,

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Speaker 3: will this change things for the Mavericks. I think a

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Speaker 3: little bit, like I think their fans tonight should probably

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Speaker 3: be pretty supportive that Nico Harrison is no longer employed

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Speaker 3: by the team. But then very soon after that, it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprising if the chance turned to sell the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an incredible Monday night. When PJ. Washington

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Speaker 2: was going to the free throw line to tie the

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Speaker 2: game with three free throws, the arena went silent. He

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Speaker 2: goes to the free throw line, hits it, the arena

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Speaker 2: goes back to being silent. And then when he missed

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Speaker 2: that second free throw, they said, oh yeah, we're back

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Speaker 2: to being normal again. Fire and Eco. It just immediately

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Speaker 2: changed like that. It is moving into the fabric of

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Speaker 2: staff in the summer, that was in part, I suppose

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Speaker 2: because they brought back Anthony Davis too early and he

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Speaker 2: thought Derek Lively wouldn't need surgery this offseason, and they

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Speaker 2: he just kept trying to do stuff. But it is

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Speaker 2: it does fall on the owners, and that the photo

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Speaker 2: op of him with Dickinson sideline was clearly just to show, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're going to fire a guy and you should love

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Speaker 2: us again. I mean that's what it was.

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Speaker 1: We're learning I've learned my lesson. It's like the ironic

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Speaker 1: part of all this because usually the new owner syndrome

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Speaker 1: is the owner that comes in and does way too much.

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Speaker 1: And Patrick Dumont and this new mass ownership they sort

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Speaker 1: of did the opposite. They're like, all right, well, Nico's

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Speaker 1: got it, figured it out. Do whatever you want, Nico,

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Speaker 1: you want to trade Luca?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right, okay, I guess so whatever you say a

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Speaker 1: big guy, I said, now. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And they also made sure that Mark Cuban wasn't anywhere

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Speaker 2: near the team that was part of the agreement that

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Speaker 2: did not become part of the agreement. Mark Cuban was

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Speaker 2: supposed to be the basketball guy, and they made sure

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Speaker 3: Do you blame Mark Cuban at all in this for

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Speaker 3: selling to a group that he purposefully said, They're not

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Speaker 3: good at real estate. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, it is

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Speaker 3: for now jeeper price. Yeah they could have gotten yeah right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Their aspiration, I guess is to potentially put a

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Speaker 2: casino in with the the the arena if gambling is

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Speaker 2: approved or legalized, I should say in Texas, I guess

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Speaker 2: that's possibility. But Cuban did think he was going to

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Speaker 2: be part of the franchise. Okay, yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he was wrong. But look the way the Lakers

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Speaker 3: did it. They sold to a multi kabillionaire who ensures

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Speaker 3: the team is going to stay where they are, They're

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Speaker 3: going to spend a ton of money and got it

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Speaker 3: in writing that, Like Genie Buss still has to say

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Speaker 3: in things right, like, there are ways to do it,

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Speaker 3: and the Lakers did it the right way. The Mavericks

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Speaker 3: didn't do it the right way. So I think Cuban

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Speaker 3: is like he's pretty low on the list of responsibility here,

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Speaker 3: but he's probably number three.

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Speaker 2: When he does interviews as to how the actual deal happened,

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Speaker 2: it was in there, but it was somehow out removed.

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Speaker 2: And it's either the NBA to blame and they claim

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Speaker 2: that it wasn't them, and then it's either the Deumasa

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Speaker 2: blame that really literally just removed his name from that operation.

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Speaker 2: But then, yeah, is it a monstrous burden is on

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Speaker 2: Nico Harrison saying, hey, Luca, you're god man. Whether or

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Speaker 2: not he likes Luca's workout plan, or what he doesn't

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Speaker 2: like that he worked doesn't work out every day in

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Speaker 2: the past because now he works out every day, or

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Speaker 2: just want or just wanting to make his mark, just

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Speaker 2: wanting to make his stamp. I'm being so smart in

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Speaker 2: trading the guy that took the torch from Dirk Nowitzki

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Speaker 2: and this franchise. Yeah, I don't know. It's crazy how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to come back in ball. Before the

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Speaker 2: Mats are saying anything is worthy of a trade package

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Speaker 1: The Hawks making a move for Anthony Davis, Kristaps Porzingis

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Speaker 2: I don't see the Hawks doing it. I see them

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Speaker 1: And then another Eastern Conference team is dominating right now. Again,

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Speaker 3: you're playing really well right now. You've got a great

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Speaker 3: big guy in Durham. There are probably the other players

433
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: who become available who are named Lowry Markinen that would

434
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 3: fit this team better. They need outside shooting more than

435
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: they need another guy who's going to play in the

436
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 3: line clog things up for Kaid.

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be reluctant. I do see that type

438
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: of team that has multiple parts definitely becoming a little

439
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 2: appealing to the Dallas Mavericks along with the Picks. Sure,

440
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 2: but I would wait. Dannis Jenkins is balling for the

441
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons. It just feels like they've got such good

442
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 2: chemistry right now, just keep it rolling, and yeah, they

443
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: need a big who can shoot. And so whether it's

444
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: lowry marketing, whether the Jazz are willing to trade a

445
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 2: future All star, future All Star like twenty twenty six

446
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: All Star and Lowry markin he's balling, that's a different scenario.

447
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: But the Pistons are they got to stay with what

448
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: they got.

449
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Speaker 1: Well, well, I think you're right about this idea of eight.

450
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Speaker 1: He's got to get back here and how does he

451
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Speaker 1: look and play? And then maybe those trade packages get

452
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: a little juice here. Eighty assigned for next season, for

453
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Speaker 1: this season and next season before his twenty seven player

454
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Speaker 1: option and then his extension eligible next summer.

455
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Speaker 2: This was supposed to you got am right away if

456
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Speaker 2: you trade for him. Basically, yeah, yeah, he needs to

457
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: be back. This was supposed to be the year he

458
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 2: had healthy eyeballs, that he started wearing the goggles, and

459
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: he was supposed to be healthy immediately. I know it's

460
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm one of the people who say, well, he does

461
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: play in a good bunch of games, but now he

462
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 2: is honestly getting to be thirty three soon and he's

463
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: missing just games after games after games unfortunately.

464
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Speaker 1: So Nico Harrison gone, they can now, I guess MAVs

465
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Speaker 1: fans can start the process of building the relationship back

466
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Speaker 1: with the organization one hundred percent.

467
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Speaker 3: That was my third phase of people who need to

468
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Speaker 3: do something different. The MAVs fans now need to support

469
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: their team, like this is our Pickham game tonight. We'll

470
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: get into it a little bit. They flexed their power.

471
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Speaker 3: They got Nico Harrison out of there. Yeah, now you

472
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Speaker 3: have to support the guys that are there, because, like

473
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Speaker 3: I said, it's not their fault. Luca Donjas was traded

474
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: for Anthony Davis. They got a Hall of Famer back,

475
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, we hate this guy. Can you

476
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 3: blame him? No, But now that Nico's gone, at least

477
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: you can say, look, you guys aren't the problem. We

478
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 3: got your back, Patrick Dumont. We'll see if we did

479
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: not have Nico's back. So let's make it a fun

480
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: place for the Mavericks to play, rather than them hating

481
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Speaker 3: to come back from road trips.

482
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Speaker 2: It's pretty depressed.

483
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 3: They're like, oh god, oh, we got to play another

484
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: game in front of our fans. It's terrible.

485
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: The MAVs were considering home court a disadvantage, is what

486
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: McMahon said. Yeah, that's how bad it's gone.

487
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. PJ. Washington was saying it as a member of

488
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: the Maps immediately, how much it was hurting them. That

489
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: was weeks after and they didn't address it. Then they

490
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: raised the prices of tickets going into twenty five twenty six.

491
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: They didn't think about all of the aspects own death.

492
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Speaker 2: And it took him nine It took him nine months

493
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: to do a photo op at courtside with a fan.

494
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 2: It took them a long time. And here they are

495
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: and it ain't going because it's been nine months. It's

496
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: not going to be one trade and all is healed.

497
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: It's going to take a while. Yeah, And that's why

498
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: I thought of Yeah, maybe they start eleven and zero.

499
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: They keep Nico Harrison's job for a while, but he

500
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: would be gone by the end of the year unless

501
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: they go out. Is it the finals that they'd have

502
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: to get to. They would have to go super far

503
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Speaker 2: to keep Nico Harrison's job past this coming season. Because

504
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: everyone hates them, because again they raise the prices, and

505
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: because they were just about the money to not pay

506
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: Luca and to not pay others.

507
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Speaker 1: You can say all the other reasons, it's because they

508
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: traded their guy. This was a franchise that had Dirks

509
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: back forever, and they went through the trials and tribulations,

510
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: brutal losses, first round up sets, you know, winning MVP

511
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: and getting about all these things that happened with the franchise.

512
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: But that was their guy, and he stuck through it

513
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: and they tried to build their on them, and man,

514
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: then they win the title and everybody's like, that may

515
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: be the best championship win ever of all of them

516
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: because of who we went through and how long it

517
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: took and all that, and they thought, I think mass

518
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: fans were like, all right, we're doing it again with Luca.

519
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: And they got to the finals. This is the other

520
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: part of this.

521
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. They were there, Okay, they got beat

522
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: by the Celtics, but then to suddenly turn around like,

523
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: we'll never do it with this guy who's just an

524
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: all NBA guy that just took you to the final.

525
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 1: It's just mind blowing. And I think Nico just looked

526
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: at this like it is fantasy basketball and didn't take

527
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: into the equation actual emotions from their fan base. It

528
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: was like, ah, we'll just move off him. We'll get

529
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: so we'll get a good player in ad you'll see

530
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: I'll be laughing last but like you're taking out the

531
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: human element of it, and it was pretty amazing that

532
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: they like voice their concerns and it did work in

533
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: addition to them struggling.

534
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, they got all the way to the

535
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: championship round.

536
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: That's what Patrick Dumont called me. Yeah, that's a bad sign.

537
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thrown in there. They lost Dirk, Like, Dirk's

538
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: not a Maps fan anymore. Yeah, one team, he was traded.

539
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: He was showing up at Lakers games, he's doing TV. Now.

540
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: This guy was a MAVs icon and now he's like

541
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 3: everybody's like.

542
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they got to work to get people like

543
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: Dirk and obviously their fan base just back on board.

544
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: But you're right, you'll be interesting to see how they

545
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: react tonight that game. The fans.

546
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: I think it'll be a raucous atmosphere sort.

547
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: Of do too, should be sort of too.

548
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: That's why I thought.

549
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had like a I saw like a news clip,

550
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 3: you know all the people who were there protesting after

551
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: the after the Luca trade were back. The guys with

552
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: the coffin, they were back, and they're all playing Cell.

553
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Come out.

554
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: So they're gonna be happy tonight.

555
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: I'm picking them in the pick up.

556
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: You're getting your first win tonight. You are gonna wow.

557
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: I think so. They should take care of business against Phoenix.

558
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: Anything else here on Nico Harrison's firing and the MAVs

559
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: moving forward trade ideas.

560
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: Cooper Flagg looked great in their last game. Yeah, he

561
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 3: really did.

562
00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: It's overlooked.

563
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, had his best game yet.

564
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Oh awesome. Yeah, Jason Kidd was playing a point guard again,

565
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: their best capable point guard. It was helping out Cooper

566
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: flag that take to the bucket with Yanni's going up

567
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: as high as he possibly could, Cooper just absorbing it

568
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: in a late game situation and scoring. It was awesome. Yeah,

569
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: and that the earlier play, as I mentioned on yesterday's show,

570
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: with a couple of minutes left to get Cooper at

571
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: an advantage, a size advantage, running plays for him with

572
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: a point guard. I don't know. I don't know what

573
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd was was doing, and I know TJ Kidd

574
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: is all upset about it too, hilarious stuff.

575
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, throw that in the mix. Why did Nico

576
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: Harrison not get a real guard for this team?

577
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and why Jason Kidd wasn't starting even just to

578
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: see how bad Dangel Russell was at the beginning of

579
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: this serious season.

580
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: I mean, he knew how bad he was.

581
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess should have had a player coach.

582
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: Again, Jason Kid should have played man.

583
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: But Monday was an awesome game for them. It was fun.

584
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: They were leading in the fourth quarter with because Brandon

585
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Williams was starting a point playing guards. That was good.

586
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, a Luca trade could have very easily set

587
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: the Maps back like a decade. But then they hit

588
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 1: the lottery and they have Cooper Flag. That's that's a

589
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: glimmer of hope right for their future. So like this

590
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: could be somehow way worse, but they got Cooper. It

591
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: could be worse. Yeah, it could.

592
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: It's but like all said it themselves back a decade, Like,

593
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to imagine they get back to

594
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: the finals a lot quicker with Luca than Yeah. Yeah,

595
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: it's probably going to be a decade until I get

596
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: back with Cooper Flag.

597
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.

598
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 3: And uh oh Wenby's in their conference.

599
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: Uh oh that sucks.

600
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh, Lucas in their conference as well. With

601
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: a deep pocketed Lakers ownership group, who is going to

602
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: spend every single dollar they could? Yeah, who makes it

603
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: back to the finals? First to the maps. The Lucas absolutely,

604
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: they sat their franchise back a decade easily already.

605
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. The scary part is this ownership has a ton

606
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: of money too. In Dallas. They've got a ton of money.

607
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of money there. They just didn't want

608
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 2: to spend it.

609
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: In part A billionaire that's actually a chief skate Ives has.

610
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: Heard it all.

611
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the Lakers. I would have loved to

612
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: see a healthy MAVs team against that Lakers team last

613
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: year in the playoffs. That would have been fun to

614
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: see Kyrie and Anthony Davis versus Luca Lebron. That would

615
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: have been a good series. I think I'm taking the maps.

616
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: I think I was taking the Maps in that series

617
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: if they're fully healthy.

618
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: You're a Nico Harrison supporter, Yeah, man.

619
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm a magic man.

620
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: Free Nike shoes or something.

621
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: Giving away, anything that.

622
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: Gives away players.

623
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: Oh all right, let's take a break when we come back,

624
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,720
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626
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627
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Speaker 1: Versus the World is finally a done deal, yes, and

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Speaker 1: will be the format for this season's NBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: Though it's not really a game, is it. It's really

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Speaker 1: a round robin tournament of games. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: played Sunday, February fifteenth, starting at five pm Eastern. That's right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: coming a little earlier this year. It's going to air

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Speaker 1: on NBC at just about the midway point of the

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Speaker 1: Winter Olympics, which is sort of why we're doing all

668
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Speaker 1: of this, but we already knew that part. I guess

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Speaker 1: the big news last night was we got a little

670
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Speaker 1: more clarification on how the teams are going to be picked.

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Speaker 1: So it's basically the same as it's been in recent years,

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Speaker 1: with one notable tweak. NBA is eliminating the front court

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Speaker 1: and backcourt position designations for players, So each ballot from

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Speaker 1: fans will include five players from the Eastern Conference five

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Speaker 1: players from the Western Conference, So we're still doing that,

676
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Speaker 1: but positions will not matter, nor will nationalities at that point. Okay,

677
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: and then the fourteen reserves, seven from each conference, are

678
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Speaker 1: going to be selected by the head coaches. And then

679
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Speaker 1: it's like, we got to make the teams because there's

680
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Speaker 1: no guarantee that we're gonna have exactly sixteen American players

681
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: and exactly eight international players that are going to just

682
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Speaker 1: emerge from this voting. And what happens if that's the case,

683
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Speaker 1: like it's outweighed one way or the other. Adam Silver

684
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Speaker 1: is just going to add players. That's always going to.

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Speaker 3: Do there's gonna be so many All Stars. Yeahs be

686
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: like thirty All Stars this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean when you factor an injury yeah yeah.

688
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Speaker 2: Well I mean why just because they need to force

689
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Speaker 2: them in to get sixteen and eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like if it ended up being eighteen American

691
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Speaker 3: players and six international players. They're adding to international players.

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Speaker 3: That strikes you up to twenty six.

693
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Speaker 2: But they do that every year anyway because guys are injured.

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Speaker 3: But then they're gonna do top of that of injury

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Speaker 3: for replacements.

696
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Speaker 2: Oh, I think the injury replacements are going to be

697
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Speaker 2: those players.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to have twenty four, they're gonna have

699
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Speaker 3: to have sixteen and eight minimum to announce it, and

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Speaker 3: then we've got the month afterwards where they're figuring out

701
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Speaker 3: who's actually gonna be able to play. I think that

702
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Speaker 3: this is the fucking thing.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe how difficult they're making this. It's so

704
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Speaker 1: dumb task. And I know you're going to defend it

705
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Speaker 1: and convince me.

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Speaker 2: What am I going to defend?

707
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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I want to see a basketball game, that's all I

709
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Speaker 2: want to see.

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Speaker 3: I think this isn't a basketball game.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's not what we haven't talked about that yet.

712
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Speaker 2: We haven't even talked about the game. We haven't talked

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Speaker 2: about this, the twelve minute quarters.

714
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Speaker 3: Just like they did last year and it was so stupid.

715
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Speaker 2: Well they're going to change. Listen what they started with

716
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Speaker 2: last year in that first game quarter whatever you want

717
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: to call it, that was fine. That was a fine game.

718
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Speaker 2: Victor twelve minute game. Game. It's a twelve minute game.

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Speaker 1: You think games are forty eight minutes, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a game. It wasn't a game last year

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Speaker 2: when they designed that, that was supposed to be forty

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Speaker 2: eight minutes of games. The All Stars are supposed to

723
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Speaker 2: come to the arena, they're supposed to sit down, they're

724
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Speaker 2: supposed to take off their jacket. We're suppos to get introduce.

725
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Speaker 2: They're supposed to run on the floor. They run on

726
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Speaker 2: the floor until the forty point total that they had.

727
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Speaker 2: They're supposed to sit down, get loose for three minutes

728
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Speaker 2: because there's a commercial, and then get back on the floor.

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Speaker 2: That's not what happened, I.

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Speaker 3: Know, And it started to little movie games.

731
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Speaker 2: I want. But now who cares about this international world thing?

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Speaker 2: Now that we have to select these players All Stars

733
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Speaker 2: are going to get selected. Twenty four All Stars are

734
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Speaker 2: going to get selected. Nobody cares about how they're selected.

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Speaker 2: All they care about is going on Sunday at five

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern, turning on their NBC TV, and they're getting

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Speaker 2: all these casual fans for the Olympics, and they want

738
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Speaker 2: to see a good game. That's all they want to

739
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Speaker 2: that's all they care about.

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Speaker 1: Game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like games.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the we're mini games. Games.

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Speaker 1: So if you're just going to end up picking the

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Speaker 1: goddamn All Stars it sounds anyway silver, then why aren't

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Speaker 1: we just doing USA versus the World?

746
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Speaker 3: It's pretty simple.

747
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Speaker 2: Just do it, Just do it free.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Adams pick so silly man, just pick your

749
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: top twenty four players names because they think when when

750
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Speaker 3: the US teammate plays the world, there's only one, so

751
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Speaker 3: they don't get a teammate that it'll be a fun

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Speaker 3: one quarter of play.

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Speaker 2: And I imagine it would be again the first quarter

754
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: last year with Victori Omanium blocking shots and running back

755
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 2: on to the three point line. It wasn't any worse

756
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Speaker 2: of a first quarter than the history of All Star

757
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Speaker 2: Game basketball. It was fine, but it got worse.

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Speaker 1: As it all went on and part of that was

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Speaker 1: the production.

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Speaker 2: I think basketball player should be able to play basketball

761
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: and not sit and determine. The Mister Beast giveaway was

762
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Speaker 2: fun or the Kevin Hart uh Jo jokes and and

763
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: we're saying by the TNT even though they're coming back

764
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: on year, that was a lot. That was a lot

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Speaker 2: to consume for anybody out there. And so when they

766
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Speaker 2: tune in on NBC as they're trying to get these

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Speaker 2: casual fans that I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: A snowboarding Yeah yeah, yeah. The us US say hockey

769
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Speaker 3: game is the leadest. Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 2: We know what the lead is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hockey.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're going to get people sucked in. We

773
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Speaker 2: thought that there would be some sort of hockey copy

774
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Speaker 2: of what happened at the Al Star Game with the

775
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: four nations, like four countries actually playing, but that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Cut off, we can't.

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Speaker 2: Not in one night. It would have got Friday.

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Speaker 1: Powell Nowadian all start to well, you could have got

779
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Speaker 1: When it comes to the international players, it's no problems.

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Speaker 2: I think there. It's going to be not too bad.

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00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: There's not gonna be too many extras. Just picked a

782
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: lot of them. Come from the Western Conference. As far

783
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: as the international goes, Jokic, Luca, Wemby, and Sga from

784
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Speaker 2: the West. Yannis is probably going to be there as

785
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Speaker 2: a starter. Those are the five starters, I'd say, Yoka,

786
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Speaker 2: Lukach Wembsga yanis. Then comes Sheng Goon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's six right there.

788
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 3: That's six international locks basically.

789
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's how how cute are we getting

790
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: with the the end guys, and and listen when the

791
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: fans pick up their ballots, and when the also the

792
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: media and players have to select.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I just forgot about that. The electoral college.

794
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all star selections. They're they're not looking at well,

795
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Speaker 2: this guy is from Montenegro Vouch, Yeah, I'm taking him

796
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: over the American player. That ain't happening. They're just picking guys,

797
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: and so they don't see it. The coaches who pick

798
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: the reserves like they always do, are not going to

799
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: see the countries. They're just going to pick twelve from

800
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Speaker 2: each side, and it's going to get close the next

801
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: The next guys will probably be some little trio of

802
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: ur duo. I guess it's only we're at six. Murray,

803
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray, who is Balling, Danny Avidia, Larry Markinen, Josh

804
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Speaker 2: Katy and then are we going to the Dominican for

805
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns.

806
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Speaker 1: Going to be hilarious, Yeah, because he's probably going to

807
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 1: be named an All Star.

808
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: But because those guys are all West. I think the

809
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: weird part you may see US players that are a

810
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: little deeper on the ballot than you'd think from the

811
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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference, like Michael Bridges maybe somebody like that, right, maybe,

812
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Speaker 2: so that that would be the odd part. The International

813
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: is no problem. These other two USA teams.

814
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Speaker 1: Well, and here's the part we don't know, and they

815
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Speaker 1: don't even know yet. What about the US players? How

816
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: are they split up? That's a fair question. They said,

817
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: they haven't decided yet. Figure a draft. Why not get

818
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: every format in here? We got conferences, we got us

819
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: in the world, we got a school yard draft.

820
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Speaker 3: We can do it all.

821
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't decided. Because it's November eleventh that this

822
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: was announced on TV. And when Adam Silver had his

823
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 2: press conference at the Governor's Meeting, as he always does,

824
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: he said that this was going to be announced the

825
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: beginning of the season. It's going to be this thing

826
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Speaker 2: on NBC. You can you know, kind of collaborate that

827
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: combine it with all the Olympics talk. It was supposed

828
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 2: happened way earlier, but I guess it got pushed back.

829
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: You got the Clipper situation going on, some other big

830
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: thing going on with gambling, which happened a little later

831
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Speaker 2: in the beginning of the year. So there's no excuse

832
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Speaker 2: that they should have had this planned as part of

833
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: the schedule, programming, schedule. But I guess they had to

834
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: squeeze in Michael Jordan to who didn't do anything last night?

835
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Speaker 1: Right, I don't think so. No no insights into excellent,

836
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Speaker 1: no insights.

837
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: Taking a break load management? What up?

838
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Speaker 3: Well, he's retired. He's like being a greeter at Walmart.

839
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 3: He doesn't work every day. You said, there's this whole

840
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: gambling scandal going on.

841
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Speaker 1: Realized, oh, this is why we're doing it, so we

842
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: can bet on four games instead of one.

843
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: Damn that.

844
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: But we don't know how the coaches are gonna be selected,

845
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Speaker 1: because I guess we need three in stead of two.

846
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: Do we need an international coach?

847
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: Wow, yes we do.

848
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Speaker 1: And we don't know how the player pool of award

849
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: money I guess will be distributed either. But they're still

850
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: figuring it out. They don't know is the problem.

851
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Speaker 2: Thiago Splitter is my international coach.

852
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a chance, a chance, Jesus, oh my god.

853
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: At least it's on earlier.

854
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: I mean the most painful part is that all the

855
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: people who talk about it in the media for these

856
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: for these months prior, right because for fans, when they

857
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: look at the teams and even when they select, they're

858
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: just gonna pick twenty four players. Well, I mean.

859
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that so silly, because then Silver is just

860
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, we need two more Americans.

861
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: All right.

862
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Mchil bridges, you're in. I mean that just takes it.

863
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: That really diminishes like the All Star selection to me

864
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm sorry, we'll see, we'll see.

865
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Speaker 2: But like the names I just said, the international team

866
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: obviously pretty freaking great. There's going to be sixteen American players.

867
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: It just depends on how they're all selected, so how

868
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: it all breaks down from East to West. I don't

869
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be that bad. I think there

870
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: will be a couple of injury replacements that are literally,

871
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: do you like, we need this guy from the state

872
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: of California, I mean from America. Like, you know, anyway, do.

873
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: You like the positionless aspect to this?

874
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: That's interesting because you.

875
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: Know, I guess it's getting overlooked a little bit. It's like,

876
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: who cares Today's Wenby's a point guard.

877
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: The best guy's already voted in. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah,

878
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: Wenby's going to make it. Yoki is going to make it.

879
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: They're not making it because they were centers.

880
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. That was the only question for

881
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: Vince and Carmelo yesterday because it went pretty freaking fast.

882
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: That was the only question. And Vince didn't like it.

883
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: He just wants it, I guess tradition. And but but

884
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: Jokic is making the freaking team. I mean, Wemby's making

885
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: the freaking team. So what is it? What does it

886
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: really matter? I don't think it matters in this situation.

887
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: Maybe if it's ten years ago and DeAndre Jordan and

888
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert are the only centers, then maybe, but not anymore.

889
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's hear your opinion on the USA versus

890
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: World format here, at least what we know now, things

891
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: still to be determined.

892
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: They better let my guy, a lethal shooter do something. Okay,

893
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: fair I like him better than mister Beast. I like

894
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: him better than Tristan Jass. I just saw him shooting

895
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: hoops through a windmill, gigantic like a like a. Well

896
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: it might be old, isn't it. I don't know.

897
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had seen that one.

898
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, who knows men? Yeah, yeah, I'll shoot

899
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: through anything. Yeah. Well I'll see him do it live.

900
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Put him on the team silver. He's American, international, American.

901
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: He was playing, he was shooting with somebody famous. Recently.

902
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: He was just in the Clippers gym doing something, then

903
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: knocking him down.

904
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: It's got a nice jumper, absolutely all right. Well, I'm

905
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: sure we'll have more to say about this, and I'll

906
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: get angry again, but we'll get to actually filling out

907
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: our ballots. That's at some point later. It's a little

908
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: too early even for us.

909
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: Okay, this was Franz's year. Man, Oh, it ain't gonna

910
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 2: happen now. He could have easily if he was balling,

911
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: he could beat out and maybe you know, Giddy definitely.

912
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: Feels Jamal Murray's chances feel strong right now. Nuggets playing well,

913
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: he's having his best start. Gonna need a gonna need

914
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: another Canadian in there another international guard. Oh god, this

915
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: is so funny. Okay, let's talk briefly about last night's games.

916
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: Is there one game worth mentioning from last night that

917
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: you wanted to address?

918
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: Well, the Toronto Raptors are six and five, baby, better

919
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: than the Boston Celtics five and seven. I just like,

920
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: you know, get in on the standings there. I think

921
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: this thing to look at to watch. Basketball wise, the

922
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: jam Morant painful situation in Memphis remains alive. I mean,

923
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 2: he has not performed since that game with the Lakers

924
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: where he clearly wasn't trying the second half five games,

925
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: shooting twenty eight percent last night, sixteen percent the game before,

926
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: thirty five, thirty one, and thirty one those five games.

927
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: As Trey pointed out while we were doing our substack chat,

928
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: the turnovers are horrendous. But the whole season now is

929
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: looking very much like the Jimmy Butler scenario for the

930
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: first few months last year. He is shooting thirty five

931
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: percent from the floor, you know, forty seven percent floor,

932
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: not from three from the floor, forty seven percent as

933
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: an advanced shooting percentage. That's that's that's bad. It's like

934
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: watching him play you could see how he wasn't going

935
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: at every single potential lane or space or trying to

936
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: get around as much as he used to. So it's

937
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: it is it? The question is this a Jimmy Butler

938
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: scenario where Miami says, Okay, we gotta we gotta cut

939
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 2: the cord here. I think it's too soon to say

940
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: that playing because I don't know what the package five

941
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: or six games it's the package coming back, and he's

942
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: not a decade He's a decade younger than Jimmy Butler.

943
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: I mean he's it's a big difference, I think, to say, hey,

944
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: we're done and we're not getting much back. It all

945
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: depends what's coming back. Does he have to play better?

946
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: Are they just going to withstand it? Because there is

947
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: that possibility If it's just bad packages coming back to

948
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: Memphis he is playing, maybe just hold on till the

949
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: end of the season. I think that is a possibility.

950
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like something's going to change. They're on

951
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: a big road trip right now playing some Eastern Conference teams,

952
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: and if it goes poorly, you could see them moving

953
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: on from the coaching staff, because that's easier to do

954
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: before we get to trade season. But joh just didn't

955
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: look good. I think part of it was New York

956
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 3: had a pretty good defensive plan. They were blitzing him

957
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: quite a bit. He got a bunch of the off

958
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: similar plays that he did have turnovers on. But it

959
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: comes down to the fact that he's playing like he's

960
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: a jump shooter. When he comes around a screen, he's

961
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: looking to shoot a mid ranger or a three pointer,

962
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: and he's just not a shooter. John Moran gets downhill

963
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 3: and gets in the lane, and that's not happening right now.

964
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: Some of the turnovers were absolutely brutal. Some of them

965
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: are just the other guy dropping the pass. Ye maybe

966
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: he's throwing a little bit too much mustard on it,

967
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: but he doesn't seem to be completely locked in here.

968
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: They're down by like what twenty five points at the

969
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: end of the third quarter, he's just jolly smiles and clapping.

970
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: Felt very sarcastic.

971
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: Jice, Yeah yeah. And the Nicks, by the way, I mean,

972
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: they continue their sizzling start here, their offensive start under

973
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: Mike Brown. I think they're seven to zero now at

974
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: home perfect there. This the final score, one thirty three,

975
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: one twenty That looks sort of way closer than the

976
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: game actually was. It was a blowout, and yeah, Grizzly

977
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: sort of did a fake ass comeback. But Nicks are

978
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: on fire right now. They're feeling they're rolling, Yeah for sure.

979
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: But uh, the John Moran, if you're actually watching the

980
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: games and watching his possession, Yeah, his body language is

981
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: a brutal right now.

982
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 2: So, yeah, doesn't want to get in the lane, doesn't

983
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: want to finish at the rim.

984
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: His defense is not existing. I mean, yeah, there's those two. Yeah,

985
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: it's like all these times where he could be trying,

986
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: doubling down whatever, he's just sort of just standing watching

987
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: you guys figure it out. Yeah, what about you, TK, Well,

988
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: you mentioned it.

989
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: The most exciting game last night was Celtics seventy six Ers.

990
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: They've already played three times this season and every game

991
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 3: has been a one possession game. I did love Tyrese

992
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: Maxi in the postgame interview said it feels like we've

993
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: played them one hundred times since I came into the NBA.

994
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: The Celtics and the Sixers play all the time. But

995
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 3: it was the Justin Edwards show. He had twenty two points,

996
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: five threes, had thirteen in the fourth quarter. I love

997
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: Maxi getting him that second three after Edwards had just

998
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: hit one. Maxi drives in the lane, chucks it out

999
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: to him, Edwards switches it, crowd pops bj Edgecump had

1000
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: a crazy shot Kawhi Leonards style bounce up in the

1001
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: air that was cool, and then Kelly you Bray won

1002
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: it with a tip in after Justin Edwards finally missed

1003
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 3: a shot, took the game winner, but nobody on the

1004
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: glass for the Celtics. Nice tip for Ubre. The most

1005
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: interesting game to me, though, Thunder stomp the Warriors, led

1006
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: by thirty six, never close after halftime, and the Warriors

1007
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 3: right now feel like they are teetering on the edge.

1008
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: They're six and six, haven't beaten a good team since

1009
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: the opening week of the season. They have six straight

1010
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: road losses. Throwing the fact that they lost to the

1011
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: Nuggets by twenty five on Friday. Nuggets and Thunder these

1012
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 3: are the top two teams in the NBA, not just

1013
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: the Western Conference. That shows you how much farther down

1014
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: in the pecking order the Warriors are. Also didn't like

1015
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: what I saw from Draymond Green Jimmy Butler in their

1016
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: postgame press conferences. Draymond is saying we're not committed to winning.

1017
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: Everybody has personal agendas, and if you don't get rid

1018
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: of your personal agenda, maybe people get rid of you.

1019
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: Jimmy is saying, you gotta be honest with yourself. So

1020
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: everybody's like, who are they talking about? Kaminga is struggling

1021
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: hard right now. It might even be Kminga. It might

1022
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 3: be Brandon Pajemski. He got him coming off the bench

1023
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: and he thinks he's the third best player on the

1024
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: Warriors and is playing with no confidence. Kaminga's turning the

1025
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: ball over all the time. Draymond is turning the ball

1026
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 3: over all the time. Didn't matter. The Thunder had twenty turnovers.

1027
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: They won by thirty points. Even Draymond said that. So,

1028
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. Warriors looked very old in that game

1029
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: against the Thunder. The torch has been passed, but it

1030
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: feels like the light is fading. If you're the Warriors,

1031
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: you just see them running on down the tunnel. That

1032
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,959
Speaker 3: thing is barely a flicker. They got to figure something

1033
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: out right now because the Warriors do not look good.

1034
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it was the lack of Steph effect

1035
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: and just his trickle down effect over these last couple

1036
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: or last week really until he came back yesterday, was

1037
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: clear to me that he just needs to be out there,

1038
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 2: and he tried out there. He was had an illness

1039
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 2: that he came out first possession. He's doing classics Steph stuff,

1040
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: just running that circle and getting a bucket on the

1041
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: first ession. But he just looked guest and Caseon Wallace

1042
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 2: did a great job. Case of locking down was all

1043
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 2: over him. But he only played twenty minutes. He didn't

1044
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: look right, so we can see if he if he

1045
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: starts to get it going. But he's gonna play it

1046
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: back to back against the Spurs tonight. I mean, they

1047
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 2: have to get get it together on the road here

1048
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: for a six game trip. That was game number one.

1049
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: Maybe Steph just being around helps out.

1050
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: Could they be a team desperate enough to make a

1051
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: move for Anthony Davis with the very small window left

1052
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: for who do they have?

1053
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: That's the fifty four?

1054
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: I guess it makes like basically the exact same. But

1055
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: don't they do that? Yeah, I don't know who it

1056
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: would take to get there, but they here's convince yourself

1057
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: they'd be a team that would I mean, he would

1058
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: help when healthy. It's the whole other part.

1059
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, a team that feels like they're one piece away

1060
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: would make the most sense.

1061
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, are they asked the question? I just wanted to

1062
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: address the Jazz beating the Pacers. Two hundred and eighty

1063
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 1: points were scored. He probably hit the over. I didn't

1064
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: see what the over underline was on FANDOL last night.

1065
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: But Ace Bailly is.

1066
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: Starting now for the Utah Jazz second game.

1067
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: He looks solid. I know they're playing the Pacers, but

1068
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: twenty points from him, that step back three looks comfortable

1069
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: for him. We know he's a bucket and he hit

1070
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: like three in this game. That was like a nice

1071
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: separation he created there a couple on Siakam obviously a

1072
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: lengthy guy, pretty good defender. So Pace Billy, you know

1073
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: he might be starting from here on out for the

1074
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: for the rest of his career, with at least the.

1075
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 2: Jazz highlights for good. Yeah, he looks great, but man

1076
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: on a cool court.

1077
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: The Pacers piecers are that bad. They're they're that bad

1078
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: that the Jazz are scoring one hundred and fifty two

1079
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: on them.

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00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 3: Crap.

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00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Lowry continues to be awesome. He dropped

1082
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: thirty five, but on the other side, I thinkcause this

1083
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: is the year Pascal Siakam doesn't make the All Star.

1084
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: Game, an international year, this could have been his brutal

1085
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: All right, pick up, we've alluded to it. We know

1086
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: what it is. Phoenix, Dallas. What's the line.

1087
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: The Dallas Mavericks are favored by one and a half points.

1088
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: At home, all their fans will be there, probably they'll

1089
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: probably be cheering. So it feels like the time for

1090
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: me to break my over this.

1091
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: Well, here we go.

1092
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: As I said, oh, for seven, it's amazing, it's amazing.

1093
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: We said that many times in the history of the show.

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00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: No, never, I don't think. I don't think we've ever

1095
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: seen it.

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00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: I had one garbage start once, but I don't even

1097
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: think going seven seven, that's a lot.

1098
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: And if you want it, whoever's breaking down the numbers

1099
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: out there that I'm not asking anybody to do this,

1100
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: but I'm sure many of these losses were by half

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00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: a point.

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00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: You lost. Some back breakers ended.

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00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: Up being the last ten seconds, think half of them

1104
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 2: at least.

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00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: For yeah, four the seven owls, for sure, Mavericks, for sure.

1106
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: There was one brough off the top of my.

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00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: Head, Yeah, that's oh Mavericks, the Spurs, the Spurs. One

1108
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: Spurs did it. It was Kelly Olinik did it when

1109
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: he got that offensive reachon.

1110
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: That's why, that's why it's impossible for you to go over.

1111
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 3: It's like like this the improbability.

1112
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: Well, Phoenix going into Dallas, all this stuff going around Dallas,

1113
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: Phoenix is playing.

1114
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely that's why I'm taking them.

1115
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's why you're comfortable taking You see a

1116
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: win with the Phoenix Suns.

1117
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: I see a win with whatever. You're not picking.

1118
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: Sons. Sons can lose by one, which would happen if.

1119
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: Winner tonight.

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00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell, hilarious stuff for game winner. But I do

1121
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: think this is the best version of the mask because

1122
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd has decided to play a point guard who's

1123
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: pretty capable beside Cooper Flags. So that's why we got

1124
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: the best Cooper Flag game on Monday against the Bucks.

1125
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: So that's why I feel comfortable this is the best

1126
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 2: mass we've seen. I don't know if Nico convinced kid,

1127
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 2: hey man, don't play your point guards. It's a Cooper time.

1128
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but Jay Kidd is locked in.

1129
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: He's listening to everybody. He's listened to his son TJ Kid.

1130
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: They got to play what.

1131
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: Was this TJ Kid thing? I didn't even watch it.

1132
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: I couldn't bring myself.

1133
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: To watch it started. I don't want, I don't I

1134
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 3: don't like to watch something where there's a blurred out

1135
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: background like he was doing some sort of zoom thing.

1136
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: He had, like, you know, so don't see my.

1137
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 2: Background, was saying that. Well. He he had a four

1138
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: minute video of him basically promoting it's a teaser for

1139
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: his new podcast. There it's videos online videos. He's going

1140
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: to be talking to a camera or something. So it's

1141
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: a four minute video. But what was going around was

1142
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: the forty five seconds he took a break from promoting

1143
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 2: his video to fake a call. Yes, he's like, oh,

1144
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: hold on. He goes to the camera, hold on and

1145
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 2: say it is fake.

1146
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: I wanted want to clarify it's got Otherwise why would

1147
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: have been posted.

1148
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did a fake call to call out his dad.

1149
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: It has to because it doesn't take any breaks, because

1150
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: you can tell by the acting. There's a oh yeah,

1151
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: I know it's tough there and Dallas, it's gonna get better. Yeah,

1152
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: you're right, Yeah, there's this there's not enough there's not

1153
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: enough pause for the other guy to talk. It's just okay, yeah,

1154
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: and then he continues to talk. Yeah, it had to

1155
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: be fake.

1156
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: So it's actually I mean, he's thinking, I'll do this

1157
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: fake call with my dad about the mouth from his dad.

1158
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: It's okay, from talking about and his dad. Well, I

1159
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: don't know why he's not playing point.

1160
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: Guy okay, but he's doing that because it's gonna drum

1161
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: up interest in said kid podcast coming to a network

1162
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: near you. I guess that's what we think. How's the

1163
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: noggin looking.

1164
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: He's got a hat on, he's got his own logo, TJK.

1165
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 3: It does look cool. He's logo.

1166
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: He's grown into his head though.

1167
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 3: He looks a lot like Jason. He's kidding like like,

1168
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I only watch a clips of player podcasts,

1169
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 3: not watching TJ kid podcasts. Okay. I appreciate hearing the

1170
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: backdrop of it though. Sure.

1171
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all the clips. That's all you need, the clips.

1172
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: Do you think his first guest should be Dad or Nico?

1173
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: Good Get? That would be pretty good, very good Get.

1174
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 3: I can't. I didn't fake. That's actually awesome. You gotta

1175
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: start doing that.

1176
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the only reason why you got publicity.

1177
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, fascinating. Worked twelve games on tonight.

1178
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: Uh and yeah, Dallas has to win by two for

1179
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: Tasks to snap his losing streak here, which is getting

1180
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: pretty legendary in the no Dunk Starters Basketball Jones streets.

1181
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm out there evaluating Goate's to see who's go to emulated.

1182
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, TJ Kidd have one. He feels like.

1183
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: He's had. He's got a scruff going on here, probably

1184
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: right at some point, absolutely, all right, coming up later today,

1185
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 3: Bulls are Back Week three.

1186
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Hey, tk's awesome Bulls rewatch of the seventy two to

1187
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: ten Bulls on playback that link in the show notes.

1188
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: Three pm, Zach Correct three pm. Three games on today,

1189
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: Orlando Magic, Ooh Shack and Penny Forest Grant Revenge Game

1190
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 3: three D Dennis Scott. We got the Calves our first repeat,

1191
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 3: then the New Jersey Nets. No Jason Kidd, but you

1192
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: got Harman Gilliam Can Anderson the Hammer.

1193
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: Oh kidding, one of my favorite.

1194
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: All right, that's.

1195
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: Cool, though, Man. I gave credit to whoever this person

1196
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: is who put these up, San. They do a good

1197
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: job with these replays because you're not just getting something,

1198
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: but like they included Chris Dudley air balling a free throw.

1199
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: That's great, that's awesome. Yeah, that's the.

1200
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: Stuff I want to see thirty years.

1201
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: After the fact.

1202
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, keep it up. I was going to ask you,

1203
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: do you know the results of the games heading into

1204
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: your rewatch?

1205
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: I could easily find it out. Yeah I know, but dude,

1206
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: but I'm trying to keep it, trying to keep it fresh,

1207
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: like I actually get to know it. I mean, I

1208
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: assume they're gonna win most of them. Yeah they did,

1209
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: but have they lost the game yet? Undefeated still? Okay?

1210
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: I was wondering when they lose their first game?

1211
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, find it. Okay, you might find out if they

1212
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: lose one of these games in week three of.

1213
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: They also don't have the score bug up for the

1214
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 3: majority of these games. I don't remember that from the nineties.

1215
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: That feels like an eighties thing to me. But now

1216
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: you watch the game, the scores up the entire time,

1217
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: not the case on WGN. I really didn't really focus.

1218
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: That's awesome. You got to pay attention. You should go

1219
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 3: back to that. You have to score the game at home,

1220
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 3: like you're watching baseball. It's a lot of writing. Yeah.

1221
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna say, my daughters see a

1222
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: score bug disappear usually now because of there's an error

1223
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: in the truck. Something's going on, and they ask where

1224
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: is it?

1225
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: Where they're so conditioned.

1226
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just the way it is. Yeah,

1227
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: but I say, maybe a I'll produce one for us.

1228
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: Let's just wait, maybe I'll jump one.

1229
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1230
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: So that's at three pm on playback and then later tonight. Yeah,

1231
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: you're jumping on playback. Yeah, for a lot of these games.

1232
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: I guess.

1233
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: Yes, playback is encouraging what they're calling playbacks Big day

1234
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: because we want to prove that the future of sports

1235
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: belongs to fans and creators, not behind paywalls. Okay, so

1236
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: let's break NBA viewership records across playback, YouTube, Twitch kick

1237
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 2: and x kick What the hell is kick kick? You

1238
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: get kick this podcast?

1239
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1240
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: They want they want some affordability for games. Nice. I

1241
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: suppose that's what they're promoting, but just fan watchability. But

1242
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 2: as you said, there's just there's games upon game. There's

1243
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 2: twelve games. Yeah that Nicks Magic s interesting one. Hey

1244
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm interested in I'll tune into Wizard's Rockets I don't

1245
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: can this could be Cam Whipmore's revenge. Oh wow, that

1246
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: dunk against Jalen Duran was fucking awesome the other day.

1247
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: There's lots of good games. So I'll be on time tonight.

1248
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 2: Seven Sometimes I'm a seven man. Once the game start, ready,

1249
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to just wait, but we'll go really.

1250
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: All right again? Playback link in the show notes. Go

1251
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: join our No Ducks room that is for free and

1252
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: you can hang out with Test to night work in

1253
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: the remote control. All right, we will see you guys tomorrow.

1254
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna have special guest tomorrow. Until then, Clipper bros.

1255
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1256
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1257
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember we're not on kick now.

1258
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: There's some people in the stream team asking are we

1259
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: on kick now?

1260
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: Never heard kick?

1261
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: What's a kick?

1262
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: What do you spell it?

1263
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: Just regular kick?

1264
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: That makes it hard to search. We'll be on it

1265
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: by tomorrow. Wow, we're joining kick. You heard her here

1266
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: from no Maybe find out tomorrow whether or not we

1267
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: got on chick.

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01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: Uh? Did we see clipp Grose yesterday?

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01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: All right, embrace the eight people