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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: And here's what we got.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk, well, we're gonna have an offensive talk

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Speaker 2: in a moment about foreign lands, dictators, people, nations. Probably

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Speaker 2: gonna offend pretty much everybody. That'll always be a good time.

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Speaker 2: A little update on the Pete hagg says stuff. Mitch

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Speaker 2: McConnell suffered a fall, if you will, we'll talk about, well,

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Speaker 2: the communists in Blue States. I'm in a bag on

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Speaker 2: Chuck Grassley. All that and so much more still to

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Speaker 2: come on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 1: But first let's begin here.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the reasons America is so unique historically,

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Speaker 2: it's actually very hard to find another country like it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not doing just kind of the America raw

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Speaker 2: raw stuff that I'm prone to do from time to time.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: America is very unique because America thought a revolution against

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Speaker 2: the existing power structure one and turned out better than

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Speaker 2: it was before. And it's actually that part of our

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Speaker 2: DNA is wonderful. I'm glad we have it. But it

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Speaker 2: is also it really really taints our worldview on things. First,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about that most revolutions, almost all revolutions, they

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Speaker 2: start at least in part that rhymed because there's a distrust, distaste,

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Speaker 2: hatred for, or whatever the existing power structure as happens

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Speaker 2: to be a king, a government, whatever kind it is,

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Speaker 2: and so there starts to be an appetite for revolution.

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Speaker 2: I want to cast this evil dictator off. He's bad,

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Speaker 2: he does bad things. However, revolutions are not most of

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Speaker 2: the time led by the sharpest people, by people who

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Speaker 2: want what's best for society, by godly people. By that's

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Speaker 2: not who generally leads revolutions. Revolutions are generally led by

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Speaker 2: the ones who have the most violent capacity. The most

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Speaker 2: capacity for violence is how I want to put that.

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Speaker 2: Who is the strongest, the meanest, who has the most guns,

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Speaker 2: who commands the most troops. Those are the people who

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Speaker 2: oftentimes lead revolutions. So it's easy to get revolutionary people

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Speaker 2: on board because because they're unhappy with the horrible current

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Speaker 2: government you have. However, being on board with the revolution

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Speaker 2: sounds really really nice, until, of course, the revolution is

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Speaker 2: over and let's hope your revolution is successful, and then

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Speaker 2: you have to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to lead the new country.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to shuttle the king out the back

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Speaker 2: door and send him off to the countryside.

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Speaker 1: Or the guillotine.

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Speaker 2: It's quite another for someone else to sit in the

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Speaker 2: we threw a king a nation off of our back.

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Speaker 2: Get out of here, England. We don't want you to

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Speaker 2: rule over us anymore. And what makes us so unique

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Speaker 2: on the world stage is we threw off a bad

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Speaker 2: government and brought in a better one. Or an American

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Speaker 2: the concept of revolt, rebellion against a corrupt government. It

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Speaker 2: can be very appealing for an American because we're one

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Speaker 2: of the very few that worked out for for most people,

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Speaker 2: not just in this current world we live in. For

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Speaker 2: most people. Historically, revolution sounds great in the beginning, and

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Speaker 2: in the end it ends up so much worse than

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Speaker 2: anything you had before. That is not the exception, that

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Speaker 2: that that accurate view of revolution, which we should have

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Speaker 2: hear of people anywhere fighting for freedom, we think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: We did it. Look how great it worked for us?

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Speaker 3: US?

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Speaker 2: How many revolutions could I point to?

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Speaker 1: How many?

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Speaker 2: You know what? Let's start with Haiti. They had a revolution.

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Speaker 2: They had some of the most barbaric chattel slavery there

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Speaker 1: Dah have a revolution.

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Speaker 2: How are things in Haiti today? They're eating each other.

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Speaker 2: Cuba had a revolution. Let's get rid of these American

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Speaker 2: and they were corrupt. How did it work out for

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Speaker 2: the Cuban people in the end? Russia had a revolution

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Speaker 2: and the Tsars were bad at the end, mismanaging things, brutal, awful.

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Speaker 2: you think they felt about ten years later under communist rule.

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Speaker 2: Revolution after revolution after revolution sounds wonderful until you get

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Speaker 2: heard this today. What you're going to hear, it's for

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Speaker 2: There's a lady over there in Syria. CNN sent one

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Speaker 2: The voice you're going to hear is this young lady,

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Speaker 2: This young Syrian lady. Now, this young lady, this matters

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Speaker 2: for the purpose of our conversation, is really pretty beautiful,

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Speaker 2: beautiful young lady. Beautiful young lady wearing Western clothes, nothing risky.

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Speaker 2: But she's got a little little thing, some kind of

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Speaker 2: like I said, beautiful young lady looks speed at thirties,

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Speaker 2: maybe forty years old. And in Syria, they just got

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Speaker 2: rid of a very very very bad man Assad. Him

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Speaker 2: and his father spent half a century butchering the people

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Speaker 4: You know, some people are concerned that a lot of

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Speaker 4: the rebels are Islamists, they are from organizations that have

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Speaker 3: Do you worry about for me?

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Speaker 2: After what I have witnessed yesterday and what.

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Speaker 5: Happened in Sidnaya prison, this is absolutely fine.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a billions, Let's have this Islamic whatever over

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Speaker 1: This is more.

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Speaker 2: This is more peaceful than what the regime and the

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Speaker 2: acid regime was doing to our mother, to our daughters, to.

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Speaker 1: Our people here in Syria. Anything that would come after

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Speaker 1: the asadgi would be.

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Speaker 2: More more, more, more humanic, or more humane.

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Speaker 1: You can say this is okay.

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Speaker 2: So she's obviously stumbling over the words a little bit there,

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Speaker 2: but to paraphrase, she's the reporter essentially asked her, so

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Speaker 2: isis al Kada they're taking over Syria? There are concerns

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Speaker 2: about that. You beautiful, young lady, no hijab on, nice

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Nothing could be worse than a sod This is that. Look,

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Speaker 2: after what these people have done, we're totally on board

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Speaker 2: bring in those al Qaeda types, those Islamic types, young lady.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you've spent five minutes thinking

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Speaker 2: truth about revolution. And this is a cautionary tale for

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Speaker 2: all of us, because I know that revolutionary fervor has

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Speaker 2: have been tortured to death. She has every reason in

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Speaker 2: a sod is gone. In a year from now, that

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Speaker 2: even still alive. A year from now, in fact, appearing

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Speaker 2: to death. Isis al Qaeda they watch CNN two, They

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Speaker 2: She may not last a month. I brought this up

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Speaker 2: for a couple different reasons, because we have to have

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Speaker 2: an offensive talk about dictatorships and revolutions, But just to

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Speaker 2: put a little bow on this particular portion of it,

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Speaker 2: be careful, whether it's in your country or abroad. Be

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Speaker 2: careful celebrating revolutions, as evil as so many regimes are,

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Speaker 2: and I acknowledge they are. In Assad most definitely was

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Speaker 2: be very very very careful supporting a revolution. Ninety nine

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Speaker 2: point nine percent of the time you come out the

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Speaker 2: back end worse than you were before. Remember that.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk dictatorships.

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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: this young lady in Syria, beautiful young lady wearing a

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Speaker 2: nice pretty bow in her hair, sweatshirt on makeup.

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Speaker 1: On she's telling CNN.

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Speaker 2: She is thrilled they had a revolution and a sod

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Speaker 1: This is absolutely amazing. After all of the years we

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Speaker 1: are live on the international TV. This is this is amazing,

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Speaker 1: This is unspeakable.

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Speaker 2: This is us after fifty years of darkness.

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Speaker 4: This is us after fifty years of death.

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Speaker 1: This is absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 2: Isis just took over, young lady. You are about to

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Speaker 2: be covered, potentially killed for what you just said on

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Speaker 1: And so let's talk.

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Speaker 2: We have seen time after time after time, what is

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Speaker 2: it work out this way? So often we've seen, just

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Speaker 2: in recent memory, we don't even have to go that deep. Historically,

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Speaker 2: we've seen Saddam Hussein go down, Iraq turns into a

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Speaker 2: long after Gaddafi went down, you realize they had open

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Speaker 2: slave markets. That's how bad Libya fell. When I say

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Speaker 2: In fact, you can probably find them online where you

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Speaker 2: have people just exactly what you'd picture, people in chains

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Speaker 2: on stage, people are bidding on their slaves. In Libya,

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Speaker 2: a sad, a nightmare of a human being. Torture, death,

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Speaker 2: horrible just went down in Syria. Be very careful what

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Speaker 2: you wish for. And here's the truth. Being kind as

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Speaker 2: the form of having a good population that shares a culture. Period,

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Speaker 2: end of story. If you find yourself as a leader,

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Speaker 2: My shame is I guess she wants her name read.

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Speaker 2: This morning I woke up to you talking about Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 2: The culture is not yours, the culture of the government

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Speaker 1: I don't own it.

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Speaker 1: That's his problem, not mine.

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Speaker 1: Blah, white people put a man on a moon.

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't help out putting anybody.

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Speaker 2: And I also don't have to take on their sins

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Speaker 2: I am not I'm not part of him. I don't

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Speaker 1: United States Senator. Little background.

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty one years old, happily married to an absolute

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Speaker 2: dime for seven years now, with a beautiful new baby girl.

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Speaker 2: I've never once held political office of any kind. I

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Speaker 2: have zero political connections. I've been fascinated with politics since

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Speaker 2: I was probably fourteen and fancy myself quite a master debater.

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Speaker 2: Would Would I be wasting my time to even bother?

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Speaker 2: It depends on what you mean by that. This is

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Speaker 2: what I mean speaking of speaking of black people. Let's

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Speaker 2: go here, Joe Collins. You know, Joe Collins is probably

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Speaker 2: not Maxine Waters, that disgusting congresswoman from California. She is

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Speaker 2: from a black area, very very black area. And Joe

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Speaker 2: Collins a Republican. He's a Navy vet. I've interviewed him

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Speaker 2: several times. As a Republican. He has challenged Maxine Waters

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Speaker 2: in her area. Now he's challenging for Congress. Now He's

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Speaker 2: never won, and to be honest, he's never really come

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Speaker 2: that close to winning at all.

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Speaker 1: He is not Now.

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Speaker 2: Did Joe Collins way his time? It depends on how

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Speaker 2: you look at it. For him personally, he's not sitting

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Speaker 2: in Congress. He didn't remove Maxine Waters, he didn't even

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Speaker 2: ever really threaten her. She has such a stranglehold on

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Speaker 2: power there. Did Joe Collins waste his time. Well, he

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Speaker 2: didn't win, But Joe Collins is much more knowledgeable about

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Speaker 2: his district. He's much more knowledgeable what it takes to

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Speaker 2: run for office. He has infinitely more political connections now

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Speaker 2: than he ever had before if he wants to maybe

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Speaker 2: I think it was Compton. I set up in office here,

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Speaker 2: Joe's black too, He said, I have black people come

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Speaker 2: Joe Collins losing has introduced people who had never met

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Speaker 2: he didn't want to take things from them. So did

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Speaker 2: he lose? Was it a losing effort? You have to

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Speaker 2: make that decision for yourself. If you're an unknown, you're

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Speaker 2: not going to challenge a United States senator in defeat him.

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Speaker 2: And if you go in with the mentality that you will,

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Speaker 2: I was just mad and I ran. I lost twice.

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Speaker 1: I hate you guys.

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Speaker 4: You know freedom is not free.

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Speaker 2: So let's give a quick update on the Pete hag

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Speaker 2: Seth thing. Pete hagg Seth his nomination, what's the status

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Speaker 2: of it. He's been all over Capitol Hill. He's been

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Speaker 2: knocking on every Senator's door, taking meeting after meeting after meeting.

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Speaker 2: And you remember what Pete hag Seth said earlier about

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Speaker 2: women in combat roles. We played it for you many

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Speaker 2: many times before he went on the Sean Ryan Show

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Speaker 2: and gave a very accurate, honest answer about women in

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Speaker 2: combat roles.

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Speaker 5: I'm straight up just saying we should not have women

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Speaker 5: in combat roles hasn't made us more effective, hasn't made

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Speaker 5: us more lethal, has made fighting more complicated. We've all

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Speaker 5: served with women and they're great. It just our institutions

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Speaker 5: don't have to incentivize that in places where traditionally not

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Speaker 5: traditionally over human history, men in those positions are more capable.

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Speaker 2: That was what he said. If you have a problem

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Speaker 2: with that, you're wrong, in naive, don't care about your eye?

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Speaker 2: Am well, why shouldn't I be involved?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no no, See you have things completely twisted up.

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Speaker 2: You want access to something you explain why you should

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Speaker 2: have it. I don't have to explain to you why

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't have it. Do you explain what you should Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to get him involved in every single part

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Speaker 2: of combat. Been a complete disaster in every possible way.

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Speaker 2: In every way, these integrated combat units with women in

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Speaker 2: it have been a disaster. Pregnancies, drama, lack of focus

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Speaker 2: that these are the minor problems. The dropping of the standards,

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Speaker 2: creating with creating resentment in the units themselves. It's a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Pete egg Seth has had to bounce around Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 2: And of course Jony Ernst is a veteran. Jony Ernst,

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Speaker 2: Senator from Iowa, ran on that loves to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Pete had to sit down with her and here's what he.

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Speaker 5: Says, a great meeting.

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Speaker 4: I mean, people don't really know this. I've known Senator

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Speaker 4: Ernst for over ten years. I knew her when she

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Speaker 4: was a state senator running to be the first female

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Speaker 4: combat veteran, and we supported her in that effort and

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Speaker 4: have continued to Because you get into these meetings and

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Speaker 4: you get to listen to senators is an amazing advice

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Speaker 4: and consent process, and you hear how thoughtful, serious, and

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Speaker 4: substantive they are on these key issues as they pertain

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Speaker 4: to our defense department, and Jony Arns's front and center

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Speaker 4: on that. So able to have phone calls and meetings

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Speaker 4: time and time again to talk over the issues is

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Speaker 4: really really important, and the fact that she's willing to

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Speaker 4: support me through this process means a lot. And I

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Speaker 4: also want an opportunity here to clarify comments that have

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Speaker 4: been misconstrued that I somehow don't support women in the military.

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Speaker 4: Some of our greatest warriors are best warriors out there,

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Speaker 4: are women who serve, praise their right hand to defend

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Speaker 4: this country and love our nation, want to defend that flag,

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Speaker 4: and they do it every single day around the globe.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not presuming anything, but after President Trump asked

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Speaker 4: me to be his Secretary of Defense, should I get

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to do that?

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Speaker 2: Look forward to beg at. Okay, First, I've heard a

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Speaker 2: lot of people say he's backpedaling there. He's not backpedaling.

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Speaker 2: He's clarifying. Now let's first of all, let's be big

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Speaker 2: boys and girls. We understand what he's doing. Pete hag

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Speaker 2: Seth is having to spend every five minutes with Joni

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Speaker 2: Ernst because he's politic and he's glad handing. He's on

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Speaker 2: the charm offensive on Capitol Hill, trying to turn those

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Speaker 2: nose into yeses. That's what he must do, that's what

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Speaker 2: he should do. You want to get through, you want

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Speaker 2: to push change through. You only have to survive one

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Speaker 2: nomination process. They're not going to come get you after

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Speaker 2: you're through. He's trying to kiss as many babies and

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Speaker 2: shake as many hands as he can to ensure he

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Speaker 2: gets a yes on things.

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Speaker 1: That's one. Two. He's not backtracking.

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Speaker 2: He's saying women have served and are serving extremely honorably

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Speaker 2: in the military.

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Speaker 1: That is a fact. That is true.

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Speaker 2: It has been for a long time. This is not

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Speaker 2: even a new phenomenon. You want to fascinating read, Maybe

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Speaker 2: you young ladies out there considering the military, go do

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Speaker 2: some reading on the nurses in World War Two, risking

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Speaker 2: their lives, comforting, healing, flying home with wounded vets, with

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Speaker 2: rounds Japanese rounds coming through the plane as you're on

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Speaker 2: a medical plane home. Women have served extremely honorably and

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Speaker 2: still continue to do so. There is a gigantic world

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Speaker 2: of difference though then serving honorably in some part of

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Speaker 2: the military and integrating a frontline combat infantry unit or

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Speaker 2: deployed naval unit, and those two worlds must be kept separate.

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Speaker 2: And it didn't sound to me like he was backtracking

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Speaker 2: at all. I didn't hear that he said. I didn't

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Speaker 2: say anything bad about women in the military, and he

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Speaker 2: did not. So let's make sure we're standing behind him.

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Speaker 1: Still.

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Speaker 2: We need to get this done. We need to get

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Speaker 2: this through. It's really important. Even if you happen to

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Speaker 2: hate Pete haeg Seth, which I don't know why you would,

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Speaker 2: but if you happen to hate Pete hagg Seth, you

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Speaker 2: still need to understand that the Senate already took a

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Speaker 2: scalp from Donald Trump. They already took Matt Gates. The

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Speaker 2: Senate shot down Matt Gates at about five minutes. If

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Speaker 2: you hand them another one, if you allow them to

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Speaker 2: choose your cabinet, when they support everyone of every one

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Speaker 2: of Obama's, every one of Joe Biden's, they were.

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Speaker 1: All behind it.

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Speaker 2: If you allow them to shoot down Trump's cabinet pick

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Speaker 2: number two, you might as well just take it all

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Speaker 2: the way from Donald Trump. And hand it over to

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Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell and say, hey, Mitch, would you please pick

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's cabinet, because very clearly it's going.

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Speaker 1: To be up to you.

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Speaker 2: No, it has to be a complete offensive maneuver. Now

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Speaker 2: from now on, we must ram these picks through. If

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Speaker 2: it involves a public pressure campaign, threats of a primary,

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Speaker 2: I don't care, but it involves we must get the

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Speaker 2: picks through. You cannot give the losers and the GOP

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Speaker 2: Senate another scalp. If you do, they will take them

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Speaker 2: all from you. Because, believe me, this same fight is

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Speaker 2: coming for RFK, This same fight is coming for TULSEI Gabbard,

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Speaker 2: this same fight is coming for Cash Ptel. They are

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Speaker 2: dying to stop these picks. If you give them one more,

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Speaker 2: they will never stop. And speaking of the United States,

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Speaker 2: Senate Chuck Grassley's getting a lot of praise for something

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Speaker 2: he did yesterday. He's not going to get that same

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Speaker 2: praise on this show. I'll explain in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Hang on,