1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: look at things to Doherty and John Harris have their 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Here's Drew. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much, coming at you from NRG Stadium, 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: Drew Doherty. We got a fun one today, and before 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: we get into it, do me a huge favor. Would 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: you rate, review and subscribe to this podcast and then 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: go on Twitter drop me a line. It's at Doherty 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Drew d o U g h E r t y 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: d r e w at Doherty Drew. Let me know 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: what you think, what you like, what you want to 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: hear in the future. But today on the show, Johnny 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: and I are going over the double Dip over the 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: last couple weeks of dominating football. So at double dip domination. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: That's a lot of alliteration for an anxious anchor. And 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: then we're also going to go one on one with 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Nico Collins, get to know him off the field a 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: little bit better, go under the helmet. And in between 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: there we're gonna hear about how John was once a 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: dirty coach. 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: Are you interested? I hear your ears pricking up? All right? 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: Anyways, that's enough. Here's John and I my pal, John Harris. 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: How are you doing a. 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 4: Lot better these days? 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: I don't recall. I'm sure it's happened. 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm certain it's and I'm certain it's happened while I've 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: been employed here, while you've been employed here. But I'm 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: getting old and it's been in a rough four years. 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: Yep. 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: I do not remember a better back to back, more fulfilling, 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: more dominating stretch of football, more fun stretch of football 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: than what we just saw. It's recency bias, I know. 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: But you factor in the JJ Watt homecoming stuff, ring 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: of honor, induction and the good feelings that happened there 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: and playing a marquee franchise the week after playing one 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: of your rivals that you've dominated for the last fifteen 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: years or so. I don't recall feeling happier, and I 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: want to get your thought on that. But first, a 40 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: very quick table of contents for this in the lab today, 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: you and I are going to recall the good feelings. 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: We're going to have a cream of the cropper for 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: this last week. We're going to have a Texan under 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: the radar to watch at Atlanta. We have to also 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: tell a story about when you implored high school players 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: to act disrespectful and have poor sportsmanship, and that's a 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 2: fantastic story. 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: I can't wait to tell this one. 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: And then after that, I had a chance to get 50 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: some off the field stuff from Nico Collins. 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun. 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: It was prior to his eruption in this last game, 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: and it's the second eruption of twenty twenty three, and 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: this guy's not far off from already equaling and bettering 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: his career best in a lot of different numbers. But 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: back to the good feelings, do you recall a more 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: dominant two game stretch for the Texans to back like, 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: like we just witnessed, No, not start now, just. 59 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: Beat these guys up. 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: The last time the Texans won back to back games 61 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 5: was in twenty twenty one and went to Jacksonville and 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 5: in the rain beating Jacksonville. 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: That was good. 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: And then it came back home and had probably the 65 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: best game of the year. I don't know if I 66 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: would say it was dominated against La Chargers, but that 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 5: was the last time they had won back to back games. 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: So those were fun. Yeah, it were fun during lost seasons, 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: you know, there's still a lot of hope for this season. 70 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 5: During lost seasons, I mean even in a nine game 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 5: win streak in twenty eighteen, like each game was just nailer. 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: Nail biting. 73 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 5: One night that I felt like, Wow, we're pretty good 74 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: was Thursday night twenty eighteen. Unfortunately, in the fourth quarter, 75 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 5: Will Fuller went down with the twenty ACL and that's 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: when it kind of took the good feelings out. But 77 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 5: I remember that night thinking, Okay, wow, for a long 78 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: time in that game, I'm thinking we're pretty good. 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: We're on a roll. I think it was four or 80 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: five in a row at that point. 81 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 5: It was a Thursday night, We're getting the mini by 82 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 5: and I just remember thinking and then kind of getting 83 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 5: the news in the locker room that Will was me. 84 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was got out. Yeah, that was a tough one. 85 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 5: And even though DT Mary's Thomas joined us and just 86 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: it wasn't the same. And then DT went down to the 87 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 5: Philadelphia games, so it was definitely not the same going forward. 88 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 5: But from beginning to end, two games in a row, 89 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 5: all three phases exciting football to watch. That was That's 90 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 5: the epitome of it. Those those two games back to 91 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: back beating the Jags in Jacksonville and then beating the 92 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 5: Steelers here, and I mean this, I mean Drew. If 93 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 5: you look at the score, you look at the numbers, 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 5: and you look at the film, all three of them 95 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 5: tell the same story, and that is Texans dominated from 96 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 5: play one through the end of the game. 97 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 4: And it was really impressive to. 98 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: Watch so many things. To pinpoint, I want to get 99 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: your cream of the crop. 100 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 6: The cream of the crop. 101 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 3: Thank you much for man, Rady says, rest peace, mare Man. 102 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 3: I got a chance. 103 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: After you tell your bad sportsmanship story when you were 104 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: a poor sport I'm gonna tell a little Randy Mataman 105 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: savage story. 106 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: But cream of the crop. 107 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 6: The cream of the crop. 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: Who is your Houston Texans cream of the cropper? From 109 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: this Sunday? 110 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 5: You know what I'm gonna go with. Nico Collins love it. 111 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 5: I hate to do it. 112 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 4: But how do you hate to do it that I 113 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: hate to do it. 114 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: I don't hate to do it. 115 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: I don't want to say that's obvious, but I mean 116 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 5: Nico is seven catches. 117 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: Malcams, razor baby. Sometimes the most obvious choice is the 118 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: best one. 119 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 5: I mean Nico's day he tied his career high interceptions 120 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: seven in a game. He broke his career record, which 121 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: was a couple of weeks ago, with one hundred and 122 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 5: sixty eight yards in a game, and he set a 123 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: new record for his single game touchdowns with two. So 124 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: he was high marks in all three categories. But I'm 125 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 5: gonna say this. I mean, everybody saw the catches and 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 5: all that. What I think a lot of people missed 127 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 5: were those three wide receivers, even even Tank. I should 128 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 5: say four wide receive because John Metchi as well, and 129 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 5: I probably put Metch in front of. 130 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: Tank on this one. 131 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 5: The run blocking from those wide receivers was incredible. 132 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: And that's just clamping up t J. Wattred. 133 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: I mean it was incredible. 134 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 5: I mean Nico, Nico had Marcus Golden so ticked off 135 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 5: at him. He was like swinging at him on the 136 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 5: Texas sideline, and Nico is just laughing at him. 137 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: You know, Nico six four to two fifteen holding his own. 138 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 139 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: But I'll say this. You know, Robert Woods didn't have 140 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 5: a ton of catches in this game. He had a 141 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 5: couple of key third down ones. Of course, that's just 142 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 5: Robert Woods. But I was listening to podcast this past 143 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 5: summer I don't remember. I think it was called The 144 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 5: Playmakers with Jordan rod Reeg from the Athletic and she 145 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 5: talked about four coaches Sean McVay, Mike McDaniel, Matt Lafloor, 146 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 5: and whom I missing in that in that group Shanahan. 147 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, Kyle Shannon. And that was kind of 148 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: the impetus of it. 149 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 5: So she when she got to the chapter about McVeigh, 150 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting because McVeigh came from Washington. 151 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: He had been under Kyle. 152 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 5: They had been a lot of you know, a lot 153 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: of eleven personnel team, you know, one one back, one 154 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 5: tight end. 155 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: That was that. Then he went to the Rams thinking 156 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: that's what he was gonna do. 157 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 5: He got to the Rams and he's got Cooper Cup 158 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 5: and Robert Woods, and he realized that they could be 159 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 5: a twelve personnel team basically with those two on the 160 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 5: field because they were such good run blockers. And he said, 161 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 5: Robert Woods blocking in particular in the run game changed 162 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 5: his entire thought about what he thought the team was 163 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 5: going to be and what it actually turned into. And 164 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 5: it turned into basically eleven and a half personnel because 165 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 5: Cooper Cup and Robert Woods were so down good, in 166 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 5: particular Woods in the run blocking game, and so he's great, 167 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 5: and Nico and Mets you were fantastic and ten listen, 168 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: tank is five eight, one hundred and sixty five pounds, 169 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 5: so can wet He'll throw his body in there and 170 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 5: make some blocks so that I would throw on top 171 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 5: of the fact that Nico was just fantastic in the 172 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 5: receiving game. I mean, his route running was great. He 173 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 5: beat Steeler dbs like they were just standing still a 174 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 5: couple of times. On the touchdown going in to the 175 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 5: north end on a slant, he just shook that dB 176 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 5: and then he just went right by Patrick Peterson stacked him, 177 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: ran to corner Rod on the final touchdown. So he 178 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 5: was he was a rough running beast as much as 179 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 5: he was a blocker, as much as he was anything. 180 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna give him credit for all facets as 181 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 5: the cream of the cropper. 182 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: How about you. 183 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: I love it. 184 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: And as an addendum to yours, I'm gonna say, Robert 185 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: Woods he's gonna get his. He's gonna have a few 186 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: hundred yard games. Yeah, Nico's had a couple, Dell's had one. 187 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: That's I think it's just the way CJ spreads the ball, right, 188 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna see this from Dalton Schultz. Yip, Dalton's just 189 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: Dalton's playing fine. I think he just these receivers. They're 190 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: getting the line share of these catches and chewing up 191 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: yardage and chunking up yardage. 192 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: Yep. 193 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: So that's that's what I'm gonna go with. I'll go 194 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: on defense. Steven Nelson's my cream of the cropper. I 195 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: think the the lone win of the day for Pittsburgh 196 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: was they won the coin toss, and they win the 197 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: coin toss and can he Pickett. They're like, you wanna 198 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 2: what do you wanna do? And he kind of like smiles, 199 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: or at least I'm remembering it this way, might just 200 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: might be like embellishing, but yeah, he kind of did 201 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: defer like, we got all these Steelers fans in the building, 202 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna put them on offense. First, we're gonna get loud, 203 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: and then we're gonna get the ball. Well, Texans received 204 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: that kickoff, chop chop chop chop chop. They go score 205 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: four times three times on the first drive, only one 206 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: of them counts, and then Stephen Nelson ends the Steelers 207 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: first drive with an interception a really nice diving acrobatic play, 208 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: had a great return. Afterwards, he said, hey, if you 209 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: want to know about my return skills, go ask Frank Ross. 210 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: I still got a record from high school in Georgia. 211 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: Steven Nelson's been outstanding. 212 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: He was good. 213 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: He was really really good last year in another I 214 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: say lost season, another lost season, he was really really good. 215 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: That was not a lost season because of Steven Nelson. 216 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: And I think he's raised the bar in twenty twenty two. 217 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: He's a captain. He has played phenomenally. I loved what 218 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,359 Speaker 2: he did the other day. When teams you go at him, 219 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: it usually doesn't go well. He usually is batting it down, 220 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: or the receiver's not getting much yardage, or as we 221 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: saw yesterday, that was the second pick of the year 222 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: for Steven Nelson. He had won in the first game 223 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: against the Ravens, got the one yesterday and it was 224 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: a massive help set the tone. And it's fun when 225 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: you're up double digits like the Texans quickly were after that. 226 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: They get a field goal from Kymie Fairburn. Tough for 227 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 2: other teams to do what they want to do when 228 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: they're already down ten. Nothing early in the game. 229 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 5: What I love about a veteran And Steven talked about 230 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 5: this a little bit after the game, but I mentioned 231 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: it during the game, you know, film study, Yeah, and that. 232 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: Was Demko talked about that with you guys. Yeah, he did, 233 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: and about Nelson's film. 234 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 5: That particular play was the exact same play that the 235 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 5: Steelers had run the week before and beat the Raiders 236 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 5: with a seventy two yard touchdown. So when they came 237 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 5: out in that formation on second eight team because just 238 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 5: to play prior, Jerry Hughes at a sack for eight 239 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: yard loss, So second eighteen, and so when they come out, 240 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: it's the personnel, it's the formation. Steven Nelson knew like, oh, 241 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 5: I know what they're doing. They're running this post route 242 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 5: and Nelson got on top of it. That's a really 243 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: hard thing to do for a corner. 244 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: They basically scored on that against the Raiders that they 245 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: two yards in the week before, the week before, and 246 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: so they they dialed up again. 247 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: Second eighteen. Was kind of a weird time to do it, 248 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: but they did it. 249 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: Stephen recognized everything about it, got on top of the 250 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 5: post route, stayed deep. 251 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: He knew it was coming. 252 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 5: He knew Picker was going to take a shot, and 253 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: he took that shot, and he went up and got me. 254 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: It was for all the great catches on Sunday. 255 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 5: Guy, that might have been the best catch of the 256 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: day right there on either side the one Stephen Nelson may. 257 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: Have difficulty that one, and then uh, you know who 258 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: has a you know who topped him. Unfortunately it didn't count. 259 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: Shaq Griffin had an interduction late, but I guess he 260 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: had pushed a little bit and got called for p 261 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: I but I love Shaq Griffin's pick. That should have 262 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: been Anyways, those are great ones. Okay, Falcons coming home 263 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: from London chose not to take the buye. I think 264 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: you do have a choice in this. The schedule makers 265 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: set the schedule, but I think when you play internationally, 266 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: you can choose to take a bye the week after. 267 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: And they apparently thought they're taking a buy against the Texans. 268 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna be the case. I don't 269 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: think you think that's gonna be to be the case. 270 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: Let's see how it turns out on Sunday. But under 271 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: the radar, guy, who are you keeping your eyes on? 272 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 3: John? 273 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 5: A guy that should be getting a whole lot more 274 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 5: credit than he's gotten. And I thought he played fantastic 275 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 5: And I actually said it to Mark Not on the 276 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: air we were talking about it. 277 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: I said, man, you know who played really well the 278 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: other day. 279 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 5: And then in the press conference, Damiko Ryans brought him up. 280 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 5: I think unprompted Sheldon Rankins. Now, if you go and 281 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 5: look what defensive tackle, the numbers for number ninety eight are, 282 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 5: they're not high. 283 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 4: You know, he doesn't have a bunch of. 284 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: Sacks, and that's defensive tackles man. 285 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: Sheldon Rankins is doing work. 286 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 5: And the one thing that the Miko said was exactly 287 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 5: one of the reasons why. And I think when you 288 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 5: have defensive lineman that can run and you're not a 289 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: tremendous tackling team yet you need everybody hustling all the 290 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 5: time one hundred percent. And Rankins did that on a 291 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: third I think it was a third and fourteen play 292 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: through the ball. I think the Jalen Warren maybe I 293 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 5: think it was Warren, and he made the first guy miss, 294 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: but Rankins, after his rush just turned around and sprinted. 295 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 5: And after Warren made that guy miss, it slowed him 296 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 5: down and Rankins was going full speed blasted him, kept 297 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 5: him short of a fourth of a first down conversion. 298 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 5: But and it's that he had another one like that 299 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 5: a little bit later. He's just he's getting more penetration. 300 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 5: He is really the perfect compliment over to Malete Collins. 301 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 5: I think they play off one another really really well. 302 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 5: Sheldon Rankins is my under the radar guy. And this 303 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: week it becomes that much more important for those defensive 304 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 5: lineman to be pursuing one hundred percent because you got 305 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 5: b Jon Robinson run the football. 306 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: He's gonna make the first guy miss. It's gonna happen. 307 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 5: So when he makes that first guy miss, and you 308 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 5: know he darts outside and comes back inside. If those 309 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 5: defensive linemen flying from the inside, they get a good 310 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 5: shot possibility and knocking the ball out. And I think 311 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 5: Sheldon Rankins, you know, have that opportunity to look. It's 312 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 5: a good it's a good Atlanta offensive line. They've got 313 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: a lot of good talent. Crystal li Instroam is one 314 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 5: of the best guards in the in the NFL, if 315 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 5: not the best guard. He just got paid like a 316 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 5: Jake Matthews a left tackle. But Gary had a much 317 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: better year last year. You can get after him a 318 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: little bit, and that's why I think Sheldon Rank has 319 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 5: got to play a big role in this one. 320 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: On Sunday, how. 321 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: About you, Henry Tote Robinson defense, Yeah. 322 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: Well Bjeon Robinson, Yeah, I mean I don't I saw 323 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: his numbers from Sunday. He probably didn't get the ball enough. 324 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 5: No, they're not good they I mean they have so 325 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: many weapons, they are probably not using it enough and 326 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 5: that's why the offense becomes big and keep the ball 327 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: over there. 328 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, Toto is a good one. 329 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 330 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: Uh the three round linebacker, and he's basically the I 331 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: mean he's not he doesn't have a Captain C on 332 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: his chest, but he's running the defense. 333 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 6: Yep. 334 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: Four games, three games in. Really it was because he 335 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: was the starter out there at Jacksonville. 336 00:14:59,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: Yep. 337 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: That's saying a lot. 338 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: That's that's and he's gonna get called upon linebacking like 339 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: you's the front seven. They've got their hands full of 340 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: Bjon Robbinson. Hell, the whole defense does with Bjon Robinson 341 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: and all those weapons like you mentioned. But I'm gonna 342 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: with Totoe. That's my guy. 343 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 344 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: Hey, two weeks ago we went to Jacksonville and the 345 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: night before the game you had coached in Jacksonville. Anyway, 346 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: listens to this show, knows that you have a history 347 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: in that town. 348 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: Yep. 349 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: And we get to the place where we're eating and 350 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: there's three dudes there with their families. They're you know, 351 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: in their early forties, late thirties, and I say, hey, 352 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: did you guys all coach together? And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 353 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: I coached these guys and so heard some fun stories. Yeah, 354 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: from twenty some years ago. And John, you were at 355 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: poor sport, you dirty coach, and you encouraged taunting, You 356 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: encouraged poor sportsmanship, and you had youth of them America 357 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: going into a hostile environment and risking their their there's themselves. 358 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: What happened? Tell us this? Okay, scoundrel. 359 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: Now I didn't remember this story this way, but allegedly 360 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 5: so this was nineteen ninety eight. 361 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: It's my first year as a varsity head coach, and. 362 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: We nineteen ninety eight was a great year. 363 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: It was a great year. 364 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 5: Twenty five years ago. Yeah, we didn't have it was 365 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 5: I mean, shoot, I was twenty six at the time. 366 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 5: We're just trying to get the program up and kind 367 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 5: of really going. And I had been there and I 368 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 5: coached all these kids as junior high kids, and we 369 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 5: started kind of winning a few games, and I left 370 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: for a couple of years. I came back and now 371 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: they're junior sophomores, junior seniors, and so we go when 372 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 5: we play it's that private school called Episcopol, which is 373 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 5: very similar to the Piscopal here in Houston. And we 374 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 5: go to play it in a place called Branford, Florida. 375 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: And I didn't set the schedule. 376 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: For this year. 377 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: This was set by the previous head coach. So we're 378 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 5: going to Branford, Florida. Now you went to Branford, Florida. 379 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of like a rural school. Yeah like. 380 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 5: And then so so I'm bringing rich private school kids 381 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 5: to Branford, Florida, and you know, kind of rural public school, 382 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 5: one of those places where on Friday night, that's you 383 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: just went to the football game. 384 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: It's just what you did, sure, And this place is packed. 385 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 5: It's homecoming over them, and we sort of unleashed our 386 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 5: passing game on them in that in that particular game. 387 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 4: Now, my players remembered it as the. 388 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't hear anything about your pass. Yeah, yeah, 389 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: I heard what happened that the game. Yeah, Kyle Hicks 390 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: threw four touchdowns. Andy Kidd, who was at dinner, he 391 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: had a couple of touchdowns, running touchdown. 392 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: Branford was angry with us, but they might have been 393 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: angry for a different reason. I don't remember it this way, 394 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: but apparently my players, all three of them, confirmed that 395 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 5: I told them to do this when they went on 396 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 5: the field, that I told them to go jump on 397 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: the logo right. 398 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 4: And get fired up. 399 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: And part of the is if I with. 400 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: There with through it, with their helmets off in the air, 401 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: if I did do that as a team. 402 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: That was kind of what I was going for. 403 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 5: I was going for them to have a little bit 404 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 5: of emotion, you know, have a little bit of you know, juice. 405 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 4: And apparently I told him to. 406 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 5: Dude, halftime, Yeah, you doubled down on it already, you 407 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 5: had like twenty eight second they said, you guys. 408 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: They they the opposing team had a furious comeback, but 409 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: you held him off. 410 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah you win. 411 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 412 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 5: We My best player was was Andy Kidd, and so 413 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: after we had taken a lead, he broke his finger, 414 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: so he had to leave the game. So the fourth 415 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 5: quarter they start coming back and then we launched a 416 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 5: go route to uh to Doug vanner Malley and never 417 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 5: forget it, and he caught it, went in the end zone. 418 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 5: We ended up winning like thirty four to twenty four 419 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 5: something like that, and it was not. 420 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: Easy to get out of there that night. 421 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, let's jumping on the logo. I didn't 422 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 4: remember doing that. That's I'm not a big fan of it, 423 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 4: but uh I might. 424 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 5: I might have been that night, just kind of feeling 425 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: my oats like's. 426 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: Motivating your team a little bit. 427 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: Let's show who we are. And of course they go 428 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: to the logo and jump on it. 429 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: And the way I remember it was they went jumped 430 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 5: on the logo and I remember my coach going, did 431 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 5: you tell them to do that? 432 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I don't think so, but maybe I did. 433 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: That's the way I remember it. But either way it 434 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: worked out. I don't know. I didn't think it was 435 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 4: bad sportsmanship. They played with the most fire. 436 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 5: And energy, so I don't know how him going got 437 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 5: the You know, it's kind of what the Titans do. 438 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: They go jump on logos and try and win games. 439 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 5: The last time they did it here in Houston they 440 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 5: got beat fifty seven, seventeen and twenty seventeen. 441 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 4: So I don't know. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. 442 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 5: But that's the way my players remember it, and all 443 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: three of them had the same exact memory of it, 444 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 5: so I must have done it. 445 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: So this was not made up. I witnessed this story 446 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 3: being told. 447 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and they were like, no, no, you told us. 448 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, I guess I did dang it well. 449 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: At times. A guy who was also a poor sport 450 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: was Randy Matchaman Savage and when I say poor sport, 451 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: one time he took a bell and crushed Ricky the 452 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: Dragon steamboats throw it with it, so not nice. 453 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 4: Not nice. 454 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 3: I got a chance to have I booked him. 455 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: I used to be a producer for a TV show 456 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: in Dallash and this was two thousand and one when 457 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: I did this. But I booked him and he came 458 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: on a TV show and he was awesome. He was 459 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: everything you could think he would be, and I was. 460 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: I got a chance to spend about fifteen twenty minutes 461 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: with him before the show in the green room, just 462 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: chit chatting with him, trying to make him feel. 463 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: Comfortable and Yeah, he was. He was great. He was 464 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: telling stories. 465 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: He's like, I used to play minor league baseball in 466 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: the organization he did. 467 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: But he was awesome, and he got a cool picture. 468 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: I put it up. I put it up whenever I can. 469 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: I'll try probably put it up in conjunction with this podcast. 470 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 4: If I had to tell my story, you've got to 471 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 4: put that picture up. 472 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: There's really not a wild story. 473 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: He had just filmed Spider Man and he was in 474 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: the original well I don't know if it's the original, 475 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: but the one from two thousand and one. 476 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: To mguire with Toby maguire and he played a character. 477 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 3: He's like, oh, it was bone Saw. McGraw was swimming 478 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: from the chandeliers with Kirsten Dunst. That's my before Macho 479 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: Man impersonation. 480 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: It's pretty good. 481 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: No, I got a coff it's pretty but yeah, love 482 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: rest in peace, Macho Man. So because of that, because 483 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: of all his different sayings, he had that little the 484 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: Dream of the Crop in this interview he did with 485 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: mean Gene okle Lands, So I thought, let's he's our 486 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: So just calling it best Player of the Game or 487 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: the Dream of. 488 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: The Crop, recognizing Randon mamange Yes, yes, all right, ma. 489 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: R I P and R I P to the rest 490 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: of this interview with you and me, but not rip 491 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 2: to the rest of this podcast, because the guy who 492 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: we talked quite a bit about earlier in the show, 493 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: Nico Collins, is a monster on the field and he's 494 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: just a good, fun loving dude off of it. 495 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: As evidenced by this interview. 496 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: Ico Collins, the animal you would least like to be 497 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: around is what alliant? A lion? Okay, gorillas? Sneaky? Strong, Yeah, predictable, 498 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah that's what. Okay, gutny petts. 499 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 6: I do have a robber. Oh boy, girl, good boy? 500 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: What's his name? 501 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 6: Who knows? Like the game? Oh? 502 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: Like the game? 503 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? 504 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 7: I got him doing COVID because you know, I love playing, 505 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 7: you know, every game, and you know, I feel like 506 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 7: he was he looked good, So I feel like one. 507 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: Who knows a good name. I like it. So how 508 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: much food do you have to buy for on like 509 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: a regular a lot? 510 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 6: I normally to go to Target get the big bag. 511 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 7: That's probably what seventy pounds cost a lot that was 512 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 7: probably like one hundred dollars. 513 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 6: Is crazy. 514 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I get mad every time it's fight my car, 515 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 7: like food cost so much. But you know I hed 516 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 7: him there and give him to the ground beef or 517 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 7: whatever and should get the protein. 518 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: Now you're a big, strong football player. Yeah, but does 519 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: Uno sometimes take you for a walk or are you 520 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: taking for a walk? 521 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 7: It depends on no, c you see something of your life, 522 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 7: so taking me for a walk. But you know I 523 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 7: try to I try to get him right, you know, 524 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 7: get him in his command, and he always by my 525 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 7: side no matter what. 526 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Roger smart dogs. You know it sounds like a 527 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: fun guy. 528 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 6: Is you really cool like that? 529 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: Does he do any fun tricks? 530 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 6: Nah? 531 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 7: Well, he liked to play with tire's tied. You played 532 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 7: with like a small light car tire spread tire. Yeah, 533 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 7: that's this a little thing like you throw it up, 534 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 7: talk with it around, so. 535 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: It's like a football. You guys flip tires staying ship, 536 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah easily. If you didn't set an alarm, What time 537 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: would you wake up. 538 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 7: In the morning, seven seven fifteen, seven thirty? I bet yeah, 539 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 7: I'm going right back to sleep though. Yeah, yeah, I'm 540 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 7: up too early. 541 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 6: I'm going back to sleep. 542 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: There are a few better feelings in the world than 543 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: waking up knowing you don't have to go anywhere, and 544 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: you get to go back and we'll we'll back over 545 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: to sleep right on of the what's what's a better feeling? 546 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: Is there one? I mean, yes, there is? 547 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: It is? 548 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 6: It is? 549 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 7: But knowing like you got a lazy day? Yeah, alarm 550 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 7: go off. You can shut that thing off. He was 551 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 7: a bathroom real quick, come back, get your feet right, 552 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 7: the bundle up, right, man, just lay. 553 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: Down, get your feet right. 554 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 555 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 6: What do you mean you leting your side? I like 556 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: laying on my side side, you know how you kind 557 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 6: of feet together? 558 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 2: Oh? Oh there go? 559 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, all. 560 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: Right, we're going on a road trip. It's you and 561 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: you get three teammates. Who's coming with you? What are 562 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: the other three? Who are the other three? 563 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 6: I can only get three? Yes, okay, what are we 564 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 6: doing on this trip? 565 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: You're gonna go to Florida beach trip Miami. Yes, you 566 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: gotta go all the way down Miami. 567 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 7: I gotta take a Florida do with me, you know, Florida. 568 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 7: I'm gonna take my boy Briami. 569 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Tank daytona beach guy was Florida Castle, Florida. 570 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 6: DP Denzel Perryman, No another DP. 571 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: Oh Dimmi Pierce, Yes, played it Florida. All right. Who's 572 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: a teammate? Okay, don't mean you don't like him, but 573 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: he's got a roll Separately, he's not coming on the 574 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: road trip. 575 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 6: Who's that Robin Dalton? 576 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: Dalton? Okay, he's gotta be he's on the outside looking. Yeah, 577 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: we had uh, we had Devin Singletary on last week. 578 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: He chows austendiculous as the guy who's got a ride 579 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: away along. 580 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 581 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: What what are the snacks though? What are you bringing? Drinking? 582 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 6: Drinking? 583 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 7: Okay, snacks for sure. You gotta bring a South past kid, 584 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 7: sour con. You gotta bring hot cheetos, hot fries, whatever, 585 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 7: you gotta have to get it right, blue. 586 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 6: Pair the blue Yep? What else? 587 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: Beef jerky? 588 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 6: I'm not really a beep dirt guy. Yeah, chips for sure, 589 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 6: like to love the ridos? What else? All this night? 590 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 6: You got some water? 591 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: What are you guys talking about? 592 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 7: It's a conversation in Miami, trying to get them a boat, 593 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 7: get them the yacht or something flu up the city. 594 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 7: You know, just see how that is. For sure, got 595 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 7: hit the club night life, got to enjoy night life. Yeah, 596 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 7: you got to feel that's like a mandatory, like you 597 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 7: gotta go to dinner. Whatever the conversation is, that's gonna 598 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 7: get brought up. 599 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: You know. 600 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: I feel like there's no no ceiling, you know, it's 601 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 6: just open up thing. 602 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: Let's say about family. Your family is going on the 603 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: family feud? So which of the family members is gonna 604 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: be the one that has the most inappropriate answers? That 605 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: makes Steve Harvey just do the face to words the camera. 606 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, he just looks. 607 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 608 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 6: I love him that every day. 609 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 7: Oh, I say, my brother, my older brother, Okay, what's 610 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 7: he gonna do? 611 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 6: Not do nothing? But I feel like his an is 612 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 6: probably gonna be like you say that. You know what 613 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 6: I'm saying. I just wanted those, but I feel like 614 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 6: it would be him. 615 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: Okay, we're some of your favorite football movies of all time. 616 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 6: I got a couple, a couple of Friday Night Lights 617 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 6: really number one move. 618 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: Miuse Bob Miles so sad. 619 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 6: Yes, I remember the Titans. Okay, any given Sunday, Solid 620 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 6: good box. 621 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: I was in that movie as an extra way back 622 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: in the day. 623 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta show it to him. 624 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: You don't see me, you're here, I promise I was 625 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: in there. I was at a scene where the guy that 626 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: got pushed the reporter. Yeahino has a press conference and 627 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: apologize for that. 628 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, okay after those. 629 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 7: Three, those three, yeah, I feel like nothing gonna bet 630 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 7: those three. 631 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 2: Solid, very good choices. Which teammate of yours? 632 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 6: Man, I'm not gonna lie. We got some charts on 633 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 6: the team. Man. I feel like j G. He's hilarious. 634 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 6: How come just like the jokes he made. Man, just 635 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 6: like just being around him, you're gonna laugh at least 636 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 6: once a day, twice a day. It's like mandatory, you're 637 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 6: gonna laugh. 638 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 7: A couple of guys on the old line, Austin Douglas funnyarious. 639 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: Man. 640 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 6: It's a lot of people, man, it's a lot of 641 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 6: people you least suspect that's. 642 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: Like funny grenardulous. So those are two I've not heard before. 643 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 6: Number one for sure. 644 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, if you were not a football player, what 645 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: would you be doing? 646 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 6: I feel like I'll be coaching. 647 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I like coaching like the youth because I 648 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 7: have two little nephews. 649 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 6: You know, they in sports. 650 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 7: I was in sports as well, and like I like 651 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 7: just seeing them just you know, just ball like a 652 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 7: young age. You know, just showing them the rights and 653 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 7: wrong you know what I'm saying, watching them grow. So 654 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 7: I feel like just the youth, I feel like i'd 655 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 7: be a youth football coach. Yeah, or just being around 656 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 7: the youth. 657 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: You learn a lot about yourself, man, do that? Yeah? 658 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 2: Are they playing all sorts of sports? 659 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 660 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're playing football, basketball, and baseball. There you go, 661 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 6: all three. Just letting them do pick on one one coach. 662 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the time. I can't wait 663 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: to do this. Okay, and we're gonna wrap things up 664 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: with a few questions from you. I in the past 665 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: have done a Dear Drew video, but not enough people 666 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: watched it, so they're like, hey, just make it an article. 667 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: So I did. I've been doing that for the last few. 668 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: Years and every Tuesday during the season I release it. 669 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: And yesterday I had four questions. And since the release 670 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: of the article, thank you all for reading, thank you 671 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: all for sending in the question. Since then, got another question, 672 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: and this one comes from Rick Lamb and he says, this, 673 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: Dear Drew Stroud gets all the publicity. How is Anderson 674 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: stacking up against expectations? Seeing the block kick at Jacksonville 675 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: has me wondering well Will is definitely stacking up very 676 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: very well. 677 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: He obviously was expected to do great things. 678 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: Team traded up and trade it a lot to go 679 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: all the way up to number three in the draft 680 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: to get him and Hey. First game out, he gets 681 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: a sack of Lamar Jackson. Two weeks later, he blocks 682 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: a field goal attempt. Massive, massive play on special teams 683 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: early in that win at Jacksonville. 684 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: All the way through, he's been getting after the quarterback. 685 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: He got after the quarterback. 686 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: On Sunday and made life miserable for Kenny Pickett. I 687 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: think he had six pressures total. He was hitting him, 688 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: he was making a move around, getting him off his spot, 689 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: which is what you want him to do. Now, I 690 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: think Will Anderson is going to start getting some more 691 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: sacks as the week's advance. But yeah, everything about Will 692 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: Anderson so far has been the real deal, and it's 693 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: only going to get better in my estimation. So yes, 694 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: he is deserving of the publicity and probably should get more. 695 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: But Willy Anderson doing very nice things, and I appreciate 696 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: you sending that question. Please keep more of them coming 697 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 2: on in. Like I said, go and rate, review and 698 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: subscribe to this podcast. We have so much fun doing it, 699 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: but you're the reason we do it, So get after 700 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: it and let us know, and we'll talk to you again, 701 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: very very soon. 702 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: Fun in the lab