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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutt. We meet again, so we do.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I've got a question for you, and only you can

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Speaker 2: answer this question, right. You know, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I do what.

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Speaker 4: When I was in my twenties, I loved wearing super

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Speaker 4: platform high heels make me like nine feet tall, fabulous.

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Speaker 4: I can't do it anymore. I don't have the patience.

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Speaker 4: And also, it's just we used to call them ankle breakers. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 4: because like one false move, oh yeah, and that's it

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Speaker 4: misstep on the gutter toast. And I've had a step.

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Speaker 2: On the club.

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Speaker 3: You just roll your ankle.

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Speaker 4: I've had, you know, ankle injuries subsequent unrelated to platform

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Speaker 4: high heels. And I've now just thought, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: ridiculous high heels just in general, so I don't wear

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Speaker 4: them anyway. I saw another pair of ankle breakers.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, everyone's been.

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Speaker 2: Telling memping you. You're like, well, maybe these could bring

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Speaker 2: me back in the game.

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Speaker 4: No. I was repulsed because sometimes I see them, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: I wish I were still sure twenty five, teetering around

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Speaker 4: and those acting a fool.

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Speaker 3: No, not anymore.

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Speaker 4: I saw these. A lot of people sent this to us.

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Speaker 4: I saw it before I started getting all the emails

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Speaker 4: forwarded to me and all the dms.

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Speaker 3: I saw it first.

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Speaker 2: So like bass Pro Shop now has a chunky heel that.

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Speaker 3: Would be amazing, is it?

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Speaker 4: No, do you have one hundred and fifty bucks on

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Speaker 4: me that you could like loan to someone who would

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Speaker 4: want these?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I can spot to you on these.

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Speaker 3: These are Lego crocs.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm showing you right now that well, I

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Speaker 4: will have them put up on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I actually know two people who would actually love those.

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Speaker 4: But these look like ankle breakers because they're so huge

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Speaker 4: on the foot.

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Speaker 2: How tall is that this lady wearing? Oh wow kind

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Speaker 2: of platform?

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Speaker 3: They're super broad.

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Speaker 4: But I just feel like there's this narrow footbed, like

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Speaker 4: a narrow little part where you sink your foot in

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Speaker 4: and it just looks like one false move, you know,

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Speaker 4: and then it's.

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Speaker 3: All lights out London.

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Speaker 4: The you know, they just look like two red Lego bricks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you shove your foot in there and it has.

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Speaker 2: Little of bread. You know.

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Speaker 4: Something though, everything you've ever dreamed of building begins with

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Speaker 4: the Lego brick clog.

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Speaker 3: According to Lego run by me one moment, everything you've

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Speaker 3: ever dreamed of building?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got that phrase, Everything I've ever dreamed of.

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Speaker 3: Building begins in the Lego Brick blog.

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Speaker 4: What introducing a new introducing a new and imaginative silhouette

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Speaker 4: constructed with the playfulness of crocs. Now, okay, that's that's

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Speaker 4: debatable and the boundless creativity of the Lego Brick. It's

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Speaker 4: fun footwear that inspires you to build, rebuild, and reinvent.

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Speaker 3: What makes you?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Do you build the shoe? Can you take apart

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Speaker 2: this shoe?

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Speaker 4: Is it a bunch of Because I thought, well, what

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Speaker 4: if you step your own platforms the holes in the bottom,

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Speaker 4: like it's just the little brick thing on the top?

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Speaker 4: I looked, trust me. Each oversized pair features four studs

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Speaker 4: stamped with the Lego logo, a pivotable heel strap for

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Speaker 4: a more secure fit, and a faux anti stud soul.

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Speaker 4: Accompanying this unique pair of collector clogs is a Lego

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Speaker 4: minifigure with four pairs of their.

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Speaker 3: Own Lego Brick clogs.

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Speaker 4: Think of them as your partner for anywhere your creativity

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Speaker 4: takes you. So you know we're telling the kids, go

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Speaker 4: ahead fall in love with a computer and then now

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Speaker 4: you're in love with a little Lego that dresses like you.

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Speaker 3: Is I just yeah, it's ridiculous, ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Now if you go online, they're not available yet. They

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Speaker 4: come out like mid February, you know, drops coming. Luckily

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Speaker 4: they come into Men's thirteen. I can get terrifying those

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Speaker 4: things bearing down on you. You're like walking at night

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Speaker 4: and you're.

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Speaker 5: Flip some Frankenstein feet, just some big dude in a

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Speaker 5: pair of Lego crocs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ridiculous here.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even pronounce Frankenstein crarectly said Frankenstein fin Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I keep wanting to call them Lego clogs because I

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Speaker 4: don't want to admit the existence of crocs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've noticed that. I thought it was the whole

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Speaker 2: branding issue, like we couldn't get Crocs to totally sign on.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, they signed I know, I caught that bliss

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 2: No, it was like a hole.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, thank you for that. It was ridiculous. You

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Speaker 2: know what else is work here has done what? Well?

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Speaker 2: Imagine that you work for years and years and years

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Speaker 2: for a chance to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That's me.

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Speaker 2: But what if you do if you don't make it?

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Speaker 3: That's also me.

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Speaker 2: One option of course crime, Well not me. This is

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and rage azz capers,

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Speaker 2: hece and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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Speaker 2: and one hundred percent ridiculous. Elizabeth, it's super Bowl week.

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Speaker 2: You're excited it? Do you have money riding on the game? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I put bets on everything, like someone named Davante is

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Speaker 4: going to hurt themselves.

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Speaker 3: I put fifty bucks on that.

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Speaker 2: Got you got prop bet on DeVante's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all the Davante's.

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Speaker 4: And then I also made a bet on someone kicking

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Speaker 4: the ball like really.

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Speaker 2: Far so, like a seventy yard field goal.

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Speaker 3: Like fifteen feet. That's a long.

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Speaker 2: Lady, pretty is your is your nephew doing these prop

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Speaker 2: bets with you?

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Speaker 3: With a guy down on the corner?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I go up to I ask him and he's like,

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Speaker 4: give me the money and I'll talk to you later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we made it. Bat It's good, perfect well to

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Speaker 2: celebrate the super Bowl in our ridiculous crime way. Today.

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Speaker 2: I have some NFL.

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Speaker 3: Lady, are you excited for the super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: I am who is in it. It is the Seattle

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Speaker 2: Seahawks and the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the New England Patreon.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots.

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Speaker 3: So Seahawks Patriots is Ted Bundy. What's his name? Who's

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Speaker 3: still the quarterback? Ted Brady?

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady. No, now it's a new young kid named

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Speaker 2: Drake May who some people believe was cloned from Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady due to this. It's a whole story there. You

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Speaker 2: can look online. There actually are people who believe he

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Speaker 2: was cloned because of some blood that was donated by

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady at the time of his birth or right

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Speaker 2: around like ten months before.

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Speaker 3: This guy, say Drake, they should constantly So I like that.

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Speaker 3: I uncovered it consperience. Of course, you found me real

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Speaker 3: quick too, Ted Brady.

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Speaker 2: Now, these NFL related heists did not occur what they

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Speaker 2: were active players, but rather what they did after their

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Speaker 2: NFL careers. Oh okay, Elizabe. Before we get deep into

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Speaker 2: crime as a secondary career path after the NFL, first,

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Speaker 2: I want to tell you a little fun crime anecdote.

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Speaker 2: It's fun because it involves two things I love, the

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Speaker 2: pizza delivery business and Illinois state politics. So totally. As

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Speaker 2: you know, for a number of years I delivered pieces.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you've told me about that.

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Speaker 2: And sister, I learned a lot about people. Now, I

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Speaker 2: never got robbed, but I did think it was a

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Speaker 2: possibility a number of times. Mostly what you hear about,

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Speaker 2: what I always feared happening was getting a call for

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Speaker 2: what's it called an appointment robbery. That's where you have

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Speaker 2: some folks order food and when you get there, they

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So this doesn't happen so much anymore because

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Speaker 2: but back when I delivered pizza, people still paid in cash, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or at least they gave me cash tips, even if

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Speaker 2: they did their credit card over the phone. So I

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Speaker 2: carried a lot of cash on me, especially on Friday night,

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Speaker 2: a great target for a robbery. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: These people missed out Anyway, I had hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 2: of me sometimes that is like, oh, I got an

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Speaker 2: oscar week in LA.

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Speaker 3: They took one look at you and they said, that's

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Speaker 3: not a man to mess with.

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Speaker 2: No, I had some strange offers, but none of them

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Speaker 2: are give me all your money. Yeah. I met a

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Speaker 2: guy whose credit card said Saul Hudson, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, you slash stop. Yeah, in the Four

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Speaker 2: Seasons Hotel, I delivered him. Yeah, he had Jack Daniels

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Speaker 2: on the table behind him. That was the other indicator.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, still drinking. Yeah. So anyway, that's

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Speaker 2: the general shape of how robberies go, right, is like,

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Speaker 2: you show up, you got cash. Now. I know you're

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Speaker 2: not a huge football fan, Elizabeth, but you may recognize

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Speaker 2: this name since he played for the Raiders. Okay, he

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Speaker 5: His name is Napoleon Harris, vaguely familiar.

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Speaker 2: Well after his playing career was over, Napoleon was smart

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Speaker 2: with his money. Good on him. He invested in a

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Speaker 2: few pizza franchises in the Chicago Land area restaurants called

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Speaker 2: Beggars Pizza. They did well, apparently, and so not only

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Speaker 2: that success, he also ran for and was elected to

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Speaker 2: the Illinois State Senate. Yeah, by all measures of post

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Speaker 2: playing life, he was a success.

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Speaker 3: Napoleon Harris.

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Speaker 2: Then he became a superhero crime fighter.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, the story comes.

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Speaker 2: He was at one of his Beggars Pizza Restaurants. Terrible name,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Beggars Pizza. We got the can't be

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Speaker 2: chooser special line special. So it was almost closing time.

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Speaker 2: He tells his delivery driver he could go home. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't need to worry about the last orders they came

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Speaker 2: in he delivered them himself, which he did when he

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Speaker 2: got a late delivery.

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Speaker 3: That's weird.

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Speaker 2: He drives out into the night with multiple pizzas, pocket

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Speaker 2: full of cash for the transaction. When he arrives at

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Speaker 2: the address, what happens He finds it's a vacant, abandoned home. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was a bad sign, but who knows, maybe some

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Speaker 2: squatters ordered pizza, you know, chargable no judgment. He approaches

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Speaker 2: the house. Four young men emerged from the dark of night,

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Speaker 2: and they do not have money ready. They instead asked

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Speaker 2: for his money. They're like, give me all the money, man,

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Speaker 2: And so I assume they also asked for the pizzas, like,

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Speaker 2: we'll take the pizza and the mining man. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: this that pizza part wasn't in the news stories I read.

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Speaker 2: I just assume everyone to skip past.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, this is Pizza's right there.

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Speaker 2: Totally so the only like, the one problem for the

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Speaker 2: for wannabe stick up artists is that the pizza guy,

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Speaker 2: the delivery man, was a thirty seven year old former

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Speaker 2: NFL linebacker, yeah, who stood six foot three in two

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Speaker 2: So I promised you some ridiculous crime theater play.

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Speaker 2: I want you to indulge me.

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Speaker 3: I when have I not.

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Speaker 2: I'd like us to do a dramatic recreation of that

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Speaker 4: Never, So, how am I playing this? Am I trying

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Speaker 2: Yeah? You're yeah, I want you to beat Kevin Costner. Girl,

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Speaker 2: sitting on a spring, grabbed my glove and ran out

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 3: Did you get to bike a play?

444
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Speaker 2: They never hit the ball out of the infields game?

445
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 2: Ended season was over. I knew they'd send me back down.

446
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't bear the thought of another year in the miners,

447
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 2: so I decided to hang them up. Go go on,

448
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 2: sit down, Thank you.

449
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Speaker 3: So what was that like?

450
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Speaker 2: It was like coming this close to your dreams and

451
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Speaker 2: then watching them brush past you like a stranger in

452
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Speaker 2: a crowd. At the time, you don't think much of it.

453
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Speaker 2: We don't recognize our most significan get moments while they're happening.

454
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 2: Back then, I thought, well, there'll be other days. I

455
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 2: didn't realize that was the only day. And now Ray

456
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Speaker 2: can sell. I want to ask you a question. What's

457
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Speaker 2: so interesting about half an inning that would make you

458
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Speaker 2: come all the way from Iowa to talk to me

459
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Speaker 2: about it fifty years after it happened.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really know till just now. But I think

461
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Speaker 3: it's to ask.

462
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Speaker 4: You if you could do anything you wanted don't laugh,

463
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Speaker 4: or if you could have a wish.

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Speaker 2: And you're the kind of man who could grant me

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Speaker 2: that wish.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I never got a bat in the

469
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Speaker 2: major leagues. I'd have liked to have had that chance,

470
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Speaker 2: just once to stare down a big league pitcher. Stare

471
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Speaker 2: him down, then, just as he goes into his wind up, wink,

472
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Speaker 2: make him think you know something he doesn't. That's what

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Speaker 2: I wish for the chance to squint at the sky

474
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Speaker 2: so blue that it hurts your eyes just to look

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Speaker 2: at it. To feel the tingle in your arms as

476
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Speaker 2: you connect with the ball, to run the bases, stretch

477
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Speaker 2: a double into a triple, and then flop face first

478
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Speaker 2: into third, wrap your arms around the bag. That's my wish,

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Speaker 2: Ray Concella, that's my wish. Is there enough magic out

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Speaker 2: there in the moonlight to make this dream come true?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 3: What would you say if I.

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Speaker 2: Said, is I think I'd actually believe you?

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Speaker 4: Well, sir, there's a place where things like that happen,

485
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Speaker 4: And if you want to go, I can take you.

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Speaker 2: This is my most special place in all the world.

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Speaker 6: Ray.

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Speaker 2: Once a place touches you like this, the wind never

489
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Speaker 2: blows so cold again, you feel for it as if

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Speaker 2: it was your child. I can't leave Chisholm.

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Speaker 4: I understand, I do, but I really think you're supposed

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Speaker 4: to come with us.

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Speaker 3: No, but your wish.

494
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Speaker 2: It'll have to stay a wish. I was born here,

495
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Speaker 2: I lived here, I'll here no regrets.

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Speaker 3: Fifty years ago. For five minutes, you came within you.

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Speaker 4: You came as close it would kill some man to

498
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Speaker 4: get so close to their dreatment.

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Speaker 3: Not touch it.

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Speaker 8: God, the considered a tragedy.

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Speaker 2: Son, if I'd only gotten to be a doctor for

502
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Speaker 2: five minutes, now, that would have been a tragedy. I

503
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Speaker 2: better be getting home. At least you will think I

504
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Speaker 2: got a girlfriend now. Thank you for indulging me with that, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: so welcome. As fun as that was for me, I

506
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Speaker 2: have a very real reason for us to do that scene. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it was table setting, emotional table setting. Yes, because imagine

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Speaker 2: if someone a professional athlete.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, just.

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Speaker 4: Sorry to interrupture, I think that I really transported people

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Speaker 4: to that moment in that film.

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Speaker 2: You rendered it.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was like people are like, did they

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Speaker 4: just take the audio from the movie?

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Speaker 3: Is that legal?

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Speaker 2: Because they aren't talking over the audio?

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Speaker 3: They get them.

518
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Speaker 2: Like that. That's expensive.

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Speaker 3: You can't get my impression?

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Speaker 2: Was it still smells like costume here? How did you

521
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Speaker 2: do that? It smells like that was the impressive part.

522
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Speaker 2: Not only did you sound like him, you smelled like him.

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Speaker 3: Smells like pizza. That's fine, So.

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Speaker 2: I want you to do me a favorite. Imagine someone

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Speaker 2: a professional athlete. I imagine they didn't have an Alicia,

526
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Speaker 2: they didn't have the children of Chisholm, Minnesota, they didn't

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Speaker 2: have a medical practice. They didn't have that meaning in

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Speaker 2: it in their life.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Now, imagine if that person he had that same one

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Speaker 2: inning in the sun moment in his life. Yeah, might

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Speaker 2: he do after that moment? If he lacks that same

533
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Speaker 2: sense of purpose, we just might turn to crime. Right,

534
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Speaker 2: I could see that. But that's what happened to Devin Aguilar.

535
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 2: Only wasn't baseball, it was football. So Devin Aguilar at

536
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Speaker 2: one time he was a kid just hoping he might

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Speaker 2: one day play in the NFL. And he was good.

538
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Speaker 2: Like I'm talking. He was an EA Sports second team

539
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Speaker 2: All American prospect. Oh, he was an All Colorado to

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Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year when he was a senior.

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Speaker 2: Denver Post they named him Offensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 2: for Colorado for the whole state, whole state. Not only that,

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Speaker 2: sports writer Bruce Devlin from the Denver Post he added

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Speaker 2: him to the likes of legends of Denver High local

545
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Speaker 2: high school sport greats.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 2: He was named as first team wide receiver for the

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Speaker 2: Denver post All Colorado team from nineteen eighty to two

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Speaker 2: thousand and six. He all right twenty six years in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl Denver Sports. Now, he did lead his

551
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Speaker 2: team to the state championship game three straight years, right,

552
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Speaker 2: they won one last two. My point is his a legend.

553
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: He's also a star basketball player. He's just a natural

554
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: born athlete. When he was headed off to the college

555
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Speaker 2: football market, he was the number four recruit in the

556
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Speaker 2: state of Colorado, top wide receiver prospect in the nation.

557
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: He decides to go to the University of Washington. Okay,

558
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: his first year, he was an All Pack ten honorable mention.

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Speaker 2: In his senior year, he earned honorable mention again for

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Speaker 2: the newly named All Pac twelve. Yeah, they added a

561
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Speaker 2: couple teams before they dissolved the Pack twelve. Anyway, he

562
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Speaker 2: ended his college career as the number seven wide receiver

563
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Speaker 2: in all of University of Washington's history for both receptions

564
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Speaker 2: and yards. After his senior year, it looked like Devin

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Speaker 2: aguil Laro was headed off to the pros, to the limelight,

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Speaker 2: the NFL, the big Show. Indeed, this does happen. Devin

567
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: agriel Are He goes to the NFL combine, he demonstrates

568
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Speaker 2: his talents before all the NFL scouts. He dazzled, oh

569
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Speaker 2: you know it girl, And he later signed but did

570
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Speaker 2: not get drafted by the Tennessee Titans. So he was

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Speaker 2: an undrafted rookie.

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Speaker 3: That always sounds like a fake team to me, undrafted rookies,

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Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the Tennessee Tits. So that was too literal, the

575
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Speaker 2: very last one.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't that sound fake?

577
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Speaker 2: Tennessee?

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00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And that also that kind of looks fake. It looks

580
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Speaker 2: like a like a movie or like a Canadian football team.

581
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Speaker 3: What are they trying to hide.

582
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Speaker 2: Their Houston Oilers? Pass this?

583
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: Just let's be real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So so at this point, here comes the twenty

585
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Speaker 2: twelve season, Lizabe, You know how there's the preseason games

586
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Speaker 2: before the regular season. Sure if you say so, Well,

587
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: for rookies, this time is vitally important. Sometimes you need

588
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: to win your spot on the team. You need to

589
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: show what you can do, what value you bring to

590
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Speaker 2: your team. So Devin Aguilar's whole deal in the summer

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve is show him what you can do, who

592
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: you are make the team?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: He comes on as an undrafted was.

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Speaker 3: He like showing up with boxes a cup. Yeah, guy

597
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: has like dance routine.

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Speaker 2: Greg I, remember you liked the Carrab chips, not chocolate.

599
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 2: So he's at this one. He's on the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 2: professional He's in training camp getting ready for the preseason game.

601
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: Some sports writer from the local press puts out a

602
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Speaker 2: story with the headline Tennessee Titans Complete twenty twelve NFL

603
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: Preseason and Training Camp Guide, And in this he talks

604
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: about the team's potential, their matchups, their key editions in

605
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: the off season, and of course there's reviews of the

606
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: rookie players. What did he say about Devon Aguilar? The

607
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: sports writer sums up his potential as wide receiver, Devin Aguilar.

608
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Aguilar has very limited skills and is not blessed with

609
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Speaker 2: the speed someone of his size needs to make it

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. He has almost no chance of making

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Speaker 2: the final roster. Rude, right that, Remember this player was

612
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: one of the best ever in his state. He goes

613
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Speaker 2: off to college. He went up to have somewhat illustrious.

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Speaker 3: That's just rude.

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Speaker 2: Did you imagine if they published reviews like that for

616
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Speaker 2: regular everyday jobs. You go to a website you can

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Speaker 2: read some nations of your coworkers, your friends, yourself, anyone.

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Speaker 3: You know.

619
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Speaker 2: It's like Elizabeth Dues anyway, So how brutal.

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Speaker 3: I have that look on Apple podcast reviews.

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Speaker 2: I guess. So, so this a good point, so we do.

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Speaker 2: This is the assessment for Devin Aguilar. So he needs

623
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Speaker 2: to step it up, change minds in mini camp before

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00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: the preseason game, so the next month is in July.

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Speaker 2: In a story with the title Coach Moonchik's Saturday training

626
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: Camp report, right, the coach answers to the sports writers

627
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: questions about the like health and the status of like

628
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Speaker 2: all his players, especially this rookie, Devin Aguilar, and he

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Speaker 2: specifically says cood. Coach Mike Muonchik says in regards to

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Speaker 2: Aguilar that he had this injury at this point to

631
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Speaker 2: it to his quote, hamstring. He got that, just just

632
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: a slight one. So we missed today. He heard it

633
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: a little out here the first couple of days the

634
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: rookies were here doing some things, just filled a little pull.

635
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: Hopefully he'll be a guy that will miss maybe one

636
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: more day and be out on Monday. So this is

637
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 2: the football.

638
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: Culture that doesn't bode well. To get.

639
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, pull a hammer. You got a couple of days.

640
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: You better be out here and be at the level

641
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: of impressing me to stay on the tack. That's crazy,

642
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: not just like be able.

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Speaker 3: To run this can we bring you anything?

644
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: So the preseason games come along. August eleven, twenty twelve,

645
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: Titans travel to face the Seattle Seahawks. Devin Aguilar is

646
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: back in Washington State baby playing football professionally. Now he's

647
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: playing before sixty five eighty nine fans. That's crazy decent

648
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: for a preseason game, Devin aguilar He gets targeted once

649
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: in the game as a wide receiver. He catches that

650
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: one pass. He picks up one yard after the catch,

651
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: but the total is a twelve yard game, so he

652
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: gets a first down, first down for the team. Yay.

653
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: The next week, August seventeenth, Tennessee Titans to go down

654
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: to Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Florida to face the

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Speaker 2: Buccaneers in a preseason game. A little box. In the

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Speaker 2: second quarter, Devin Aguilari's on a kickoff team. The kicker

657
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: boots the ball. It's a good kick sixty five yards.

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00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: The return man, Michael Smith decides to return the kickoff,

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00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 2: he runs out and he gets tackled by You guessed it,

660
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: Devin Aguilar.

661
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: Look at Devin.

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00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: He's doing special teams at this point. Now, the next week,

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00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans they face the Arizona Cardinals. Devin Aguilar didn't

664
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Speaker 2: record a single meaningful statistic in that game.

665
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: But you know he was there.

666
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: He brought his his presence, which was a gift.

667
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: There it is.

668
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: At the end of the preseason games, the Tennessee Titans,

669
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: they settle on their starting lineup of wide receivers. They

670
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: got Nate Washington, Damian Williams. Their backups are going to

671
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: be Kendall Wright, Kenny Britt, Lavelle Hawkins, Michael Preston, now

672
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: Devin Aguilar, James Kirkandall and DJ Woods.

673
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: So he made it.

674
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: He made at the end of the preseason games. Yes.

675
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: So the Chicago Tribune offers their assessment of this roster

676
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: depth the writing that quote the Titans of four players

677
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: they really like here, especially they can count on Britt.

678
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: Washington was a late bloomer, while Williams will hold a

679
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: spot until top pick right or Britt is ready to start.

680
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: Hawkins will have to fight for time at number five.

681
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: You hear whose name I didn't say, Elizabeth, that's right.

682
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: Even worse, they could have ripped into him like he's pointless.

683
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 2: That's like they did the beginning.

684
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

685
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So at this point, it's the twenty ninth of August.

686
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: Two days later, the Tennessee Titans they released their final

687
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: fifty three man roster. Guess whose name was not on

688
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: that list. That's right, Devin Agrilar. Okay, first year undrafted

689
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: free agent, played a couple preseason games. He had that

690
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: one catch for twelve yards. It's a first down. He

691
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: had that one tackle on a kickoff, and like that,

692
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: his whole professional football career is done.

693
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: Did he did he graduate from college or did he

694
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: do the thing where he left before graduations?

695
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: I have to admit I never looked that up, wondering,

696
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: I know you as a former college professor.

697
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate when they at.

698
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: This point, he's like he's the moonlight gram of football.

699
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: You know, he's just out there.

700
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: He didn't even get like a full the moonlight. Graham

701
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: was in med school.

702
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: Yes, this is true, So what does he do next? Well,

703
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: I tell you didn't become a doctor. After his time

704
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: in the sun. He fell hard fast forward to twenty

705
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: twenty one. It's nine years later. Yeah, I can also

706
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: tell you that by age thirty five, Aguilar was underemployed

707
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: and in a May December relationship, and he was the

708
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: May part.

709
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: I love that his.

710
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: Girlfriend was fifty four year old Fawn Julia. I don't

711
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: know much about her other or the true depth of

712
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: their relationship, but I do know rather importantly that she

713
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: worked as a teller for a business that handled the

714
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: transport of cash deposits for local pop businesses in the

715
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: state of Colorado.

716
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 3: Oh seriously, did she groom him?

717
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: So one day this couple decides, you know, I think

718
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: it'd be a good idea to rob her employer, Yomed.

719
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: So now they weren't total amateurs about it. They treated

720
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: their planned robbery like it's a full time job. Devin,

721
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: according to How It All Shakes Out, had Fawn walk

722
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: around or record her day at work. She recorded like

723
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: research videos, right, So this allowed Devin to create blueprints

724
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: of the building and detailed plans for the robbery. But

725
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: how he'll get into the garage, How I'll get out? Now,

726
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: Fawn's recording all this on her phone right now. I

727
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: suppose it was for studying later or maybe just comparing

728
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: to reality. But what I don't understand is that she

729
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: also recorded the blueprints that he was making. She took

730
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: pictures of those. She took pictures of like different drawings.

731
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: So there's a whole compendium of like all of their research.

732
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: They lost the hard copies.

733
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: It's in the cloud. They can just.

734
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: Make a Google doc.

735
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: A Sergeant Brett Kohane of the Rapahoe County Sheriff's Department

736
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 2: would later describe it quote, they had planned this for

737
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: six months. They even knew the exact data hit when

738
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: the most amount of money was going to be coming in.

739
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: It was orchestrated perfectly. He knew exactly what he was doing.

740
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: So what's the story of this perfectly orchestrated? The story

741
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: is Aaron Glad you asked your eyes.

742
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: We get a double oom wad to picture it.

743
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: It's December first, twenty twenty one. Although it's a December day,

744
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: the weather is not a wintery mix of wind and snow. Instead,

745
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: it's a reasonably warm day with temperatures in the low forties.

746
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 2: That will matter to one man. His name is Devin Aguila,

747
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: and he has big plans for today. But then again, Elizabeth,

748
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: so to you. You are currently at work driving a

749
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: transport van loaded with the cash deposits you've collected from

750
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: local pot businesses. It's been a busy day, plenty of cash.

751
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: After making your rounds, you're now on your home stretch,

752
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: on your way back to the cash transport's garage, where

753
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: you'll unload the cash deposits, tabulate the amounts, confirm them

754
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: against the reported amounts, and then you'll be done for

755
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 2: the day. You plan to go to the movie theater

756
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: to catch the new release Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City.

757
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: You don't care that. One movie reviewer said that Resident

758
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: Evil Welcome to Raccoon City was quote empty headed, good

759
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: fund that's pleasantly under two hours and has just enough

760
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: character development to make you kind of care when someone

761
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: gets bitten. You also don't care that. Another reviewer wrote that,

762
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: quote the director Roberts clearly establishes the hauntingly depressed industrial

763
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: environment of Raccoon City while methodically spacing out his zombie attacks, which,

764
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: while not especially innovative, at times, put a pit in

765
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: your stomach Like the Resident Evil Games? Do you love

766
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: the Resident Evil Games?

767
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 7: Us?

768
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: You can't wait until you're seated with your popcorn, ready

769
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: for the opening credits of Resident Eval Welcome to Raccoon City.

770
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: That may explain why. When the garage door is open,

771
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: you casually pull inside and you don't notice the man

772
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: dressed in all black, wearing gloves and a mask to

773
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: hide his face, who slips in right behind you. But

774
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: when he runs up on you as you step out

775
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: of the van, that's suddenly all you can see, well

776
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: that in the gun he's shoving in your face. He

777
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,959
Speaker 2: tells you to act cool. Then he hands you two

778
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: black trash bags and tells you to open the back

779
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: of the van and start filling the bags. When he

780
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: cocks the action on the gun, you nod and do

781
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: as instructed. You open the doors of the van and

782
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: begin filling the two black trash bags with all the

783
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: cash you have in the van. It takes you a

784
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: few minutes to load the one million, two hundred and

785
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: twenty four thousand, seven hundred and eighty five dollars. Since

786
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: it's all profits from pop businesses, the one point two

787
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: million is a mix of different denominations. Once all the

788
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: money is shoved into the two trash bags, the bask

789
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: man grabs them from you. He quickly tucks his gun,

790
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: he hEFS the ar awkward weight up onto his shoulders,

791
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 2: and he runs out of the garage. You watch him

792
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: go and realize you're not going to get to the

793
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: movie theater tonight. You're gonna be stuck answering questions from

794
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: the police and your boss about this stupid robbery. Darn it,

795
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: you really wanted to go see Resident Evil Welcome to

796
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: Raccoon City. You still don't care that. One movie reviewer

797
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: said it was a movie quote totally Brett of the

798
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: visual distinction, oh creative personality that often made his predecessors

799
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: intriguing Dune and the Rough. He just really wanted to

800
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: escape to Raccoon City and enjoys. Mikeli Sabi kills so

801
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: much for that, Okay, and that Elizabeth. How this masterminded

802
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: robbery was pulled off, But how it ends is truly

803
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: the ridiculous part, because after what all you saw just

804
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: go down carrying that garage, there was this one tiny

805
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: hiccup for the ask man with the two trash backs

806
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: of cash over his shoulders, something you actually didn't end

807
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: up witnessing. So what happens next? Great question is a

808
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: bit what happens next after these messages, I'll tell you

809
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: and we'll see how this nearly perfect paper comes undone,

810
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: and we're back at least you ready now to hear

811
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: how this nearly perfect robbery came undone. Yes, Well, even

812
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: though Devon Agrilar was a former NFL player, however short

813
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: his career was. Yeah, he wildly miscalculated his own strength

814
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: and how much one point two million dollars?

815
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: Ways, yeah, that's a lot.

816
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Devon Aguilar stood six foot one, he weighed hundred

817
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: ninety pounds.

818
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: So he's like eighty percent of a bow jack.

819
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: He's fifty pounds less than a bo jackson, so just

820
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: put it that way, twenty pounds less muscle. So, as

821
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: he fled with his stolen loot, he soon discovered, much

822
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: to his shock and dismay, that he couldn't shoulder the

823
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: one point two million dollars and he'd run off into

824
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 2: the woods with it. So there's really, like, what am

825
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 2: I supposed to do? Now?

826
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 3: Wait?

827
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess he'd never looked into how much one

828
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: point two million dollars would weigh, or like anywhere near

829
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: that amount.

830
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: It never crossed his mind.

831
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: No ever, No, like, let's train's practice with some like

832
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: laundry bags. Run up a sandy hill with laundry bags.

833
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, exactly, like how what's the volume of this

834
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 4: and how am I going to move this into a vehicle?

835
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Something that mber perfectly planned robbery except for the getaway

836
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: once again, once acad they did like everything will work out.

837
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 2: It's all downhill once you get the money.

838
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: As long as I've got that can, brother, The.

839
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: Part that's the most important is getting away with it.

840
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: Like you wants a lot.

841
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: Of money too, Yes, that's a huge amount. He's able

842
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: to untraceable bills.

843
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: Exactly, all little bills ones five, maybe fifties, maybe some hundreds,

844
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: but mostly.

845
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: One five expanded from a bank or something like. It's

846
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: this stuff that I just don't even know about.

847
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be really hard to like follow the

848
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: serial numbers on any of them.

849
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 6: Yeah.

850
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he is able to carry the two trash

851
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: bags of money about the length of seven football fields.

852
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: And that's apparently when his will collapsed seven.

853
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: He didn't make it to the big show.

854
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: You see what the coaches saw.

855
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: I He's on Miami's season up.

856
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: So what does he do at this point? Now that

857
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: his will has collapsed. Well, he drops the two trash

858
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: bags with this life changing amount of stolen money. Yeah,

859
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: and then he just runs off into the woods. But

860
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: he's still able to run. Yeah, he at least leaves it. Now.

861
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 2: This police spokesperson a Cone we would later put it quote,

862
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: there's no such thing as the perfect crime.

863
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: Did he tell people he ran off or did he

864
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: actually get seen?

865
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: Because I feel like he'd be like, yeah, then I

866
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: just sprinted away really nimbly, rather than being like limping

867
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: and cry.

868
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: His back turned his ankle. He's like living away. Oh

869
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: I didn't see that long now, Elizabeth. Before we get

870
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: to the police investigation into Devin Agrilaer's masterminded robbery, I

871
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: have a question for you. Yes, do you ever wonder

872
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: about the weight of money?

873
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: I've actually calculated it for this show.

874
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you ever just sat around wondering about it?

875
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 7: No?

876
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: Not really?

877
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, before you had a reason a cause like this show,

878
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: did it ever cross your mind?

879
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: Not really?

880
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 7: No?

881
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, quick little summary on money. Before we had

882
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: paper money, American currency is issued as coins. Then. This

883
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: is also, by the way, a millennial old tradition, one

884
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: that dates back to places were the first money no, no,

885
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take your way back to me med

886
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: the second. Now, in eighteen sixty two, during the American

887
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: Civil War, the UA printed its first bank notes that

888
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: were paper money, right, those dollar bills were much bigger

889
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: back then. Naturally, this leads to a wave of counterfeiting,

890
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: which we've discussed before. There are estimates that during the

891
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: Civil War one third about one half of the US

892
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: money was counterfeit money, which is just insane, which is

893
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: also why the Secret Service is created to investigate all

894
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: the many counterfeit money operations that are eroding like the

895
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: public faith in the.

896
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: Monetary system in the economy.

897
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: Later on the Secret Service they become protectors of the president,

898
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: but they first started as protectors of dead presidents. Yes,

899
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: aka them dollar dollar bills, y'all? Right now, anyway back

900
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: to the way of money. A dollar bill is a

901
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: blend of cotton and lenin, so it doesn't weigh a lot, right,

902
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: It's not really paper, which is partly what gives it

903
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: its weight is this lightness of the fabric. A brand

904
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: new dollar bill weighs.

905
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: One gram one gram not it's.

906
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: The same weight for any denomination. They're all the same size.

907
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: A fiver or a ten spot twenty dollars bill, Benjamin, whatever,

908
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: you got one gram one g, which means if you

909
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: have one point two million in hundreds, it would weigh

910
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: far less than one point two million in one dollar bills.

911
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: It'd be actually be like one hundred times less.

912
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you had a one hundred gram plus

913
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: had one hundred and twenty one dollar bills, it would

914
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: weigh the same as a cup of flour.

915
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: Okay, really one And now for a more medium amount,

916
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't know the flower conversion on this, but a

917
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: more average weight. If the stolen loot was fifty dollars bills,

918
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: a million dollars would weigh about twenty kilograms or roughly

919
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 2: forty four pounds.

920
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: Huh.

921
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's if the billion dollars was all fifty

922
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: dollars bills, it would weigh forty four pounds. But since

923
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: the delivery load that Devin Aguilar stole is like all

924
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: the profits from professional pot sellers, the money in the

925
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: two trash bags is likely a mix of denominations all sorts, right,

926
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: So it's nearly impossible to know how much these two

927
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: bags actually weighed. Yeah, I couldn't find reports of it.

928
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: But let's just say each bag weighed about sixty pounds, right,

929
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: he should be healthy.

930
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: He should have had a couple of those blue Ikea

931
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: bags because I've found.

932
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: You can carry a lot more weight I can carry.

933
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: So I like, I can pick things about. I can't

934
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 3: lift this. I put it in a blue Ikea bag,

935
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: get on my shoulder.

936
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: I can carry any This distributess weight differently. It's crazy lessons.

937
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: Gravity's pull just magic Ikea of those sweets. I'm telling you,

938
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: they make a great meatball and a damn good bag, you.

939
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: Know what exactly. And I thanked him for that.

940
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: So Devin Hagular, he's carrying this, we'll say, sixty pounds

941
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: of money across rough uneven earth, trying not to turn

942
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: an ankle.

943
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: So he's carrying overturn Rosie.

944
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, over like on each shoulder, right, Okay, So that's

945
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: like a hell of a struggle having two rosies in

946
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: turn Rosie over your shoulders.

947
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: I couldn't no, I mean I could put her in

948
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: a cue.

949
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: I doubt he was still in NFL shape at this point, yes, right,

950
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: so I'm sure it was like a little extra heavy

951
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: to him. And then once all the adrenaline starts to

952
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: drain away and you're like seven football fields away from

953
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: where he started running.

954
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

955
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to think if you do plan to

956
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: throw your stolen loot into two black trash bags and

957
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: run off into the woods, hopefully to get to like

958
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: a like a getaway car. Yeah, but i'd hope that

959
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: you would practice before you get to the robbery. I mean,

960
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: like treated like a workout, builds some endurance.

961
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 4: But I mean I could see like saying, Okay, I'm

962
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 4: going to disappear into the woods, but I would want

963
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: to I mean, you have to like maximize your time.

964
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: So how long is he going through the woods?

965
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: Need it far total? I don't know, at least seven

966
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: football fields?

967
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 3: Insane. It's like you should have something maybe at the

968
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: edge of the woods, hydri get away at the corner

969
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: of the world.

970
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you needed definitely a driver who's ready

971
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: to go, or.

972
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: Maybe just don't involve the woods.

973
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: Well I don't know. I love involving the woods. So

974
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: remember they say that he planned this for six months

975
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: and at no point was the weight of the money

976
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: come up point. So anyway, after he runs that that

977
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: seven football fields carrying all the cash with, you know,

978
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: the two trash bags over his shoulder. His body gives out.

979
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: All he can do at this point is dropped the

980
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: stolen money and just try to get away on his

981
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: own without getting.

982
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: Caught some of it either.

983
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: No, and he has to know that the police are

984
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: actually I don't know for certain, but you know that

985
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: he left the vast majority there in the woods.

986
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 3: He just loved a bunch of stuff in his pockets.

987
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: The police are going to be swarming the area. So

988
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: maybe he put ten ground down his crotch and keep

989
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: running or limping away. But so this is exactly what happens.

990
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: The police are soon swarming the area because the driver

991
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: called nine one one, like as soon as he ran

992
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: out the door, So timing is ticking as soon as

993
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: he starts running those seven football fields.

994
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 7: Yeah.

995
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: When the Sheriff's deputies from Rapahoe County arrived, they scoured

996
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 2: the area looking for signs of Devin Aguilar's escape route.

997
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: Maybe they get lucky, find some clue to who he

998
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: was or which way he fled. Instead, the deputies get

999
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: super lucky, Elizabeth, because they didn't just find a clue,

1000
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: they found two trash backs of cash in the woods.

1001
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 3: Amazing.

1002
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: They also found a key clue. My man must have

1003
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: been sweating up a storm when he was running, because

1004
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: he pulls off his gloves and then he made the

1005
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: mistake that would cost him his freedom. Elizabeth, my man

1006
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: left his gloves behind in the woods with the two

1007
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: bags of cash.

1008
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 3: What with all just stripping down, What are you thinking?

1009
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 3: He left like a He left like a swamp.

1010
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: Some So this one's for Tea. So of course the

1011
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: gloves had DNA all over them. The cops ran the gloves,

1012
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: as they say on Law and Order SVU, they got

1013
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: a hit in the database.

1014
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 5: So so agular commits because he had committed this earlier

1015
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 5: robbery and so his DNA is in the sist them,

1016
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 5: and his DNA profile is you know, now being used

1017
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 5: by all the you know, law enforcement in Colorado.

1018
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: So at this point the deputies began their investigation knowing

1019
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: that they're looking for Devin Aguilar. So so yeah, unless he,

1020
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: like you know, immediately makes his run for Old Mexico,

1021
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: he's pretty much gonna be rounded up pretty quickly. Yeah.

1022
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: So they also know that he targeted this specific cash

1023
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: transport driver at the time that they have the most money.

1024
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: So this is indicating like, oh, it's an insight job.

1025
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: So what do they do. They investigate all the employees

1026
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: for the cash transport business, and wouldn't you know it,

1027
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: they found Devon Aguilar's Boo Vaughn Hoya. She's in a

1028
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: relationship with Aguilar because you just opened her phone. There's

1029
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: all these pictures of him.

1030
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: It's like her lock screen is him in his Titans uniform.

1031
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 2: Hand out doing the highs in pos but pantiless. Now,

1032
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: when she was questioned, she denied any knowledge of the

1033
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: robbery or her boyfriend's plans to rob her employe. Oh yeah,

1034
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: she tried to, but that water was it was that

1035
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: King tide. It was coming in too quick. When the

1036
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: cops searched her phone, they found all those videos she'd

1037
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: recorded for him. She's like talking, my baby, you gotta

1038
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: see see this doorway here. You know, if you use

1039
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: this you can get to the garage over here. So

1040
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: and they also discover the photos she'd take and remember

1041
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: his sketched out blueprints, his detailed plans in the robbery,

1042
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: like need, I don't know prie, bar, need black gloves,

1043
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: need trash bags.

1044
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: It's like their initials like plus with a heart, around.

1045
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: Get paid. That's the last number on them. So at

1046
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: this point Fawn stops lying to the deputy. She agrees

1047
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: to flip on Agrilar and the deputies. You know, they

1048
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: used her to set up a trap for him. And

1049
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: so while she's still in police custody, before the news

1050
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: of her arrest breaks, the deputies have her call Aguilar,

1051
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: and of course they record the call's evidence. Yeah, so

1052
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: on phones Devin Aguilar, and she says that the cops

1053
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: have been around to question her. She tells them how

1054
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: they found her, which is in how they were likely

1055
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: to track him down too. And while the cops are

1056
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: in there listening on the phone call, right, and the

1057
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: Fawn tells Devin, you left your gloves dumb. So, hearing

1058
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: her say that, he doesn't think maybe she's in police custody,

1059
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: my words are being used to incriminate me. Instead, he

1060
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: does quite the opposite. He gets immediately heated and shoots back,

1061
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: But how would they know what's me?

1062
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 7: Like?

1063
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: Why do you question my brilliant, masterminded plan that only

1064
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: lasted seven football fields? So I guess he didn't realize

1065
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: how effective DNA is in the police investigation. Once they

1066
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: had Fawn's cooperation, then the damning DA evidence. Pretty much

1067
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: they're done, so Fawn takes a plead deal. Eventually she

1068
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: agrees to testify against her now former boyfriend. For her efforts,

1069
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: she gets tried, convicted, sentenced to six months behind bars.

1070
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: Armed with her testimony and phone evidence, law enforcement they go.

1071
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: They round up Devin. They arrest him too. In his trial,

1072
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: the prosecutors treated him as the mastermind of the cash

1073
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: transport robbery. They say it was maybe been a May

1074
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: December romance, but he's the brains of I don't know.

1075
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: So once Devin realizes that he's facing a certain conviction,

1076
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: he flips his plea deal and pleads guilty to felony theft,

1077
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: felony ermad robbery right in his trial. Like during sentencing,

1078
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: Aguilar tells the judge, I'm taking full accountability. I was

1079
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: a shamed but I'm no longer shamed for accountability has

1080
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 2: been taken. I'm ready for another opportunity. He's like talking

1081
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: to his coach.

1082
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what it sounds like.

1083
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: So his lawyer takes the same tag, tells the judge

1084
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: he's embarrassed that he let his family down, they let

1085
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: the community down. Then he let himself down. So he's

1086
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: doing something that his character he still has good. I

1087
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: mean he's got good spring he I mean you seen him.

1088
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: That boy can get up now, which is an interesting

1089
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: argument since his DNA obviously is already in the law

1090
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 2: enforcement database. So this is like doing something that's really

1091
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: out of his character, as a lawyer pointed out. But whatever,

1092
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: let's skip past that unfortunate little fact. When all is

1093
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: said and done, the prosecutors want a sentence of fifteen

1094
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: to twenty years for a failed robbery and he gots

1095
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: pulled it off, but he didn't get fully away. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the judge listens to their recommendations and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 2: I love that the judge is like this, like thirteen

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Speaker 2: to twenty years, all right, he got how far seven

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Speaker 2: football fields? Now've done that? So the judge jobs were

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Speaker 2: a much lighter sentence as in one year behind bars.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that is much lighter.

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Speaker 2: He ends up serving seven months of that sentence in

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Speaker 2: his release. So there you go, the criminally ridiculous post

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Speaker 2: NFL life of this modern day moonlight Graham, I have

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Speaker 2: one last question for you, Yes, what's a ridiculous takeaway here.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think there's it's interesting where he has

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Speaker 4: like he's talking to his coach about I've got accountability.

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Speaker 4: Like there's some things that gets so ingrained in people

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Speaker 4: early on, you know that, like football was.

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Speaker 3: His life for most of his life, so like.

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Speaker 4: It bums me out, you know, like not everyone can

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Speaker 4: make it, of course we know that, but to come

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Speaker 4: so close and to taste it, and then you know,

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Speaker 4: I can I can see where it's like.

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Speaker 3: Then, what what are you going to do?

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Speaker 4: Especially like I said, if you don't have a degree.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there are plenty of great jobs without degrees.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, but he could he could get into the trade,

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Speaker 2: he could open his own business.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: things that people can do, but I mean this, to

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Speaker 4: have it taken away from you like that when you

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Speaker 4: never really had.

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Speaker 2: It, and in such a public fashion, you know, like

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Speaker 2: you I go back to your community and people are

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Speaker 2: like reading that reviews.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know. I think that's why we

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Speaker 4: just need to abolish football.

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Speaker 2: You stuff it.

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Speaker 3: We'd have less crime super.

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Speaker 2: Bowl Week that is that is.

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Speaker 3: Heresy, happier folks.

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Speaker 2: How dare you. I know how dare well my ridiculous takeaway.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for please.

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Speaker 2: I just told you two football stories and you didn't

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Speaker 2: even bat an eye.

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Speaker 3: I know they were so good.

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Speaker 2: They were so good.

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Speaker 3: I think I like football now.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping so forty two Blue. So you in

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Speaker 2: the move for talk back and want to hike this

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Speaker 2: all down? Yes, I am proud. Can you favor us

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Speaker 2: with one?

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Speaker 6: episode and Zarn was talking about Lance Armstrong and how

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Speaker 6: he and his friend used to say, Look, well, my

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Speaker 6: Whenever we saw somebody in a cycling gear and all

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Speaker 6: that would go lots stroll and we still do it

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Speaker 6: to this day and he's thirty two.

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Speaker 3: I like the way you say it to.

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