1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Tuesday. Plan so far, you know, we started 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: yesterday with the announcement from the Pro Football Hall of 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Fame that the great voice, the Voice of God, John 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Facenda was going to be inducted into the Pro Football 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame posthumously. Got an opportunity to play a 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: very small role in that, just sending a letter to 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: David Baker, the president of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: and just said, hey, for your consideration, or can we 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: remind people that he was instrumental in growing the sport, 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: contributor to the sport, and David Baker and the Pro 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame will honor John Facenda in a 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: couple of months in Canton, Ohio. Then we had the 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: interview with Scottie Pippen in the final hour of the show, 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: and we were initially going to have John rom join 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: us in the final hour of the show. And I 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: said to Fritzie, look, this is going to take over 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: the final hour of the show. Whatever Scotty says, we'll 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: take over the final hour of the show. We didn't 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: know it is going to take over the entire sports 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: world yesterday and even media outlets who don't normally cover sports, 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: because this was big. And Scottie Pippen has said some 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: things recently. The GQ article where he talked about Phil 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Jackson and having Tony ku coach take the last shot 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: in a playoff game in nineteen ninety four, he thought 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: was racially motivated and giving the white guy the opportunity, 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: and Scotty said, I had earned that opportunity because I 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: was there all of those years with Michael Jordan. Now 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: this was my team. I wanted the ball. The fallout 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: was pretty strong, and I don't know if we can 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: advance the story. You know, we did reach out to 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Phil Jackson. We reached out to Michael Jordan. You know, 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: Phil was not available, and I understand that you don't 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: want to touch this, but I just thought, let's let's 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: do our due diligence here. Let's be professional at least 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: give Phil the opportunity if he does want to come 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: on and talk about this. He declined. Michael Jordan declined 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: as well. And I don't know if we advance it. 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: I think locally in Chicago this is going to stay 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: there for quite some time. Because Scottie Pippen is I mean, 41 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: that's that's the market. If you're selling something, you want 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: to make sure that that Chicago market is buying your 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: bourbon or the book that he's going to have coming 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: out this fall. But you don't mess with the nineties 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: bulls because people have the image of the nineties bulls 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: that hey, they they all got along. You know, they 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: were jigsaw puzzle pieces that all fit in there together. 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: They were rock stars. You know, people showed up to 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: watch the Bulls beat your team. And what Scotty said yesterday, 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: and look, this is this is Scotty's opinion of what happened. 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: I can't discount that. Now nobody believes him, but it 52 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: is his interpretation of something of Phil Jackson. And I 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: don't know how long he's harbored this, but you're talking 54 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty eight years that he's holding onto this. 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: And maybe he was never asked about this, but the 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: fact that he said it in such a casual, offhanded 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: way in the GQ article that this was racially motivated. 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know, Scott, He's going, Boy, 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: the only way I can sell bourbon is if I 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: have some crazy, outlandish, headline worthy stuff to say, and 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: it might be the opposite in the city of Chicago, 62 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: but Scotty said what he said, and look, I appreciate 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: him coming on. I just wanted context. That was it, 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and he didn't have to come on, but to be 65 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: able to ask him. And he offered up some other stories, 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, and they're part of me that I you know, 67 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: I felt bad because I wasn't trying to protect him, 68 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: but I'd wanted to be fair to him. Let me 69 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: put it that way, But I got to be fair 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: to Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan. You can't just go 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: let me pick sides here, and you know, I was 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: trying to be as neutral as possible. There was only 73 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: one moment where I was a little more agitated with 74 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: him when he said, do you understand English? And you know, 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: I can't let my personal feelings get in the way 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: of that, and that's what I tried to just sidestep, 77 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: move on and let me continue with the interview. But 78 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: I never saw it, never heard it. But it doesn't 79 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: mean it didn't happen. But it doesn't mean that it did. 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Now that Michael was playing to the cameras in that 81 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: game winning shot by Steve Kerr that Michael was doing 82 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: it because everybody knew it was a documentary. And that's 83 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: what Scotty said, Like I'd never heard that before, because 84 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: I was trying to say, hey, Scotty, Mike's been a 85 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: d koy before. You know, Phil designed to play for 86 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr. And he goes, no, No, that wasn't Phil, 87 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: that was Michael. Michael was doing that for the camera. 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: I went, Okay, that's that's Scottie's interpretation of this. But 89 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: he's been holding on to some things for a long 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: long time, whether they're real or not, they're perceived or not, 91 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: it's it's his interpretation, his opinion, and that's why I 92 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: thought I'll listen to it. I don't agree with everybody's 93 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: opinion who comes on the show, but I'm willing to 94 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: listen to their opinions. But that was that's pretty damning 95 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: yesterday to say that about Phil, and you know, Phil 96 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: may say something that he doesn't know how it's being interpreted. 97 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, when he referred to Lebron James and you 98 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: know the people who work with Lebron James's aposse, Lebron 99 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: James took offense to that these are my business partners. 100 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: This isn't my posse, and Phil may not have realized 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: that how that sounded, or how it would sound to 102 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Lebron James or an African American. I have no idea, 103 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: but Scotty said what he said, and I'm guessing that 104 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: this book that comes out in the fall will probably 105 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: have some more bombshells there, because it feels like Scottie 106 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: wants somebody to listen to him. Eight seven seven three 107 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: d P show email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com, 108 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Twitter handle at DP show. Clippers beat the Suns and 109 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: the Sun's up three two forty one for Paul George. 110 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that coming up here. Bucks Hawks game four. 111 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: Chris Mannox was on the scene for the Phoenix Suns 112 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: Clippers game last night. He will join us coming up 113 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: here in a little bit. The lightning role the Canadians 114 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: five one in game on Stanley Cup Final. Finally, there's 115 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: no more controversy Paul George's officially playoff p at least 116 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: for today or last night. The Clippers star. He went 117 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty from the floor at forty one, leading 118 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: the Clippers to a game five win in Phoenix. It's 119 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: one of those where you're watching the lineup that the 120 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Clippers put out there, and you're going, it's a makeshift lineup, 121 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: like Boogie Cousins is out there, and three years ago 122 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: he's going for twenty eight points in thirteen rebounds. Now 123 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: you're just saying, hey, can you give us ten minutes 124 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: out there? Terrence Man, Patrick Beverley, they got injuries, No, Kauai. 125 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: You're on the road in Phoenix. Phoenix can close you out. 126 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: Phoenix can go back to the NBA Finals, and somehow 127 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: the Clippers picked up the win, and you know what, 128 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: you needed something great out of Paul George. I think 129 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: part of the reason why we pile on Paul George, 130 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: and some of his teammates came to his defense after 131 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: the game. He called himself playoff pe. You know, if 132 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: you're Reggie Jackson and you say I'm mister October and 133 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: then you strike out a couple of times in a 134 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: big moment, then we're going to probably turn that on you. 135 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: If you're clutch, you call yourself clutch, but then you 136 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: aren't clutch, then we're gonna question that. But it's not 137 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: like the media said, hey, you're playoff p The nickname 138 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: was first uttered in a room with about fifteen reporters. 139 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: And I believe this was in twenty eighteen postseason game 140 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: against the Utah Jazz and Paul George was asked about 141 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: his responsibilities. He was guarding the then rookie Donovan Mitchell. 142 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Paul George grinned and then said, you all ain't met 143 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: playoff pe yet. Huh okay, all right, playoff PE. That 144 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: became a thing the next day and then it's stuck 145 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: playoff PE. Well, we are in the playoffs and you 146 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: want big time performers to give you a big time performance, 147 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: and that's what you had last night. Somehow they bullied 148 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: his son's team at full strength. You know, I thought 149 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: the Clippers they played almost what eighteen games in thirty 150 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: seven days, thirty eight days. I wondered if they're just fatigued, 151 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: But Paul George would not let them falter last night. 152 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: They still have a lot of work. I said it yesterday. 153 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if the Clippers won the game. 154 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: Why because they shouldn't win the game. And they've done this. 155 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: There's an interesting stat with what then they've been able 156 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: to accomplish so far. The Clippers now have seven wins 157 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: while trailing in a series in the postseason. Six of 158 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: those seven wins by double digits, both are the most 159 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: in a single postseason in NBA history. Stat of the day, 160 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: stat of the day, that past stat of the day, 161 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: stat of the day, Here comes that, what stat of 162 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: the day. Here's Paul George after the win last night. 163 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: We thrive in this moment. We come together even more 164 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: so in these moments. Yeah, I mean, this team, you know, 165 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: it is just made up of toughness all across the roster, 166 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: and so we're gonna give it everything we got and 167 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: we live with the results. Clippers played like they were desperate, 168 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: and they were, and they are down three games to one, 169 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: now three games to two. The Suns have to play 170 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: that way. You can't just show up and say in 171 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: front of our home crowd, hey, we're gonna win this game. 172 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: They don't have this guy and this guy. You got 173 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: to play with desperation because the Clippers, you know, that 174 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: feeling of hey, let's just go in there and whatever happens. 175 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: You know, we're not expected to win. That's a dangerous team. 176 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: It's like the Atlanta Hawks, who've been that team in 177 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. This year in the playoffs, like, hey, 178 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: nobody expects us. Remember they weren't even getting by the Knicks, 179 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: and then they did, and then all of a sudden, 180 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: you go, oh wow, they got by this six. Okay, 181 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like with the Clippers. They shouldn't 182 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: be underdogs, but they are because they don't have Kawhi Leonard. 183 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: Will they get Kawhi Leonard? Is there a chance that 184 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: he'd come back if there's a game seven? We've heard 185 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: very little news information about that. I'll ask Chris Mannix 186 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: about that coming up. Is there any chance that he 187 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: does play? Can he play if there is a game seven? 188 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Mannix about that coming up. Poll question, McLevin, 189 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: what do you have for me? All right, let's start 190 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: with the NBA playoffs. Which trailing team has the best 191 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: chance to come out winners in this series? The Hawks 192 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: down to one or the Clippers down three two. I'm 193 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: gonna say the Clippers have a better chance. You're going 194 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: home and if you can force a game seven, you've 195 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: already proven that you could win in Phoenix. You can 196 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: look back to that incredible alley oop to DeAndre a 197 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: eight and you could have won that game. They could 198 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: easily be up in this series when you think about it. 199 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: But you got to come out and you've got to 200 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: be the bully, and you can't just show up because 201 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: the Clippers have a very good coach who makes adjustments, 202 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: and you got you got some younger players who were 203 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: starting to believe in themselves, and that's dangerous. And Paul 204 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: George knows. Sometimes you'll see a player play better when 205 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to worry about who he defers to 206 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: all the time. And I bring this up with Ben 207 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: Simmons when he had a game against Utah earlier this year, 208 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: he made his free throws. I think he had forty 209 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: two points. Joe l Embiid wasn't playing because now your 210 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: role has changed. Now it's on me. And I think 211 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: Paul George had he had to embrace that, re embrace 212 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: it because he used to be the star in you know, Indiana. 213 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: He was the star. He had to defer a little 214 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: bit with Russell Westbrook in Oklahoma City and here with 215 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: the Clippers. But what you're seeing is somebody who is 216 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: taking it upon himself to be the star, and he 217 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: certainly has been. Yeapo, who do you think you'd bet 218 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: on to win this series right now. I would bet 219 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: on the Suns because they are healthier and they have 220 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: home court advantage. But you know, if you said, are 221 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: the Clippers going to win this next game? Sure, like 222 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: you know it's one of those we've seen this before 223 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: another series. Now you're playing against a better team and 224 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: a healthier team, and you have no business winning this series. Yeapo, 225 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: It really feels like a must win for the Clippers. 226 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: Really feels that way, Thank you, Paul. I love when 227 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: people say I'm going to APO. I love when people 228 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: say it when it's not a must win, thank you, 229 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: when they're down to oh yeah, that's an actual muscle. Yeah, yes, 230 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: MC love it. Wait are they better or worse with 231 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: zoobots not playing? And by the way, where did that 232 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: come from? All of a sudden, they're starting centers out. 233 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: I have no idea. And if quiet at acl doesn't 234 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: he need surgery or is he going to miss the 235 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: entire we're already into July. It could be a sprain, 236 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: but we have we've received no updates there, but it 237 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: feels like that he's going to have this kind of 238 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: he's had this condition since he was with the spurs. 239 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand what it's a condition. Well, it could 240 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,119 Speaker 1: be I mean, I don't know if he's having surgery, 241 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: will need surgery. It could be that he's just going 242 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: to have an arthritic knee. He's going to have persistent pain. 243 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: This is why he load manages. But I don't know 244 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: if it's just something as simple as hey have surgery 245 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: and this all goes away. It doesn't sound like them. 246 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: This program is brought to you by M Drive, M 247 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Drive Boost and Burn, the supplement that can help shed pounds, 248 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: build muscle. Visit him drive Dan dot com today, free 249 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: shipping sixty days guaranteed. Don't let age, beach or refine 250 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: your prime with him drive Young point. Don't you always 251 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: have hope if you see a player, even though in 252 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: street clothes out at warm up is just kind of 253 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: like grabbing a ball moving around, or sometimes a player 254 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: will when they're rehabbing, will go out an hour for 255 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: the game. Kawai's and street clothes. He's not anywhere near 256 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: the court, but he's not even on the bench, right, 257 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: He's not even on the bench. He didn't even go 258 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: to Phoenix last night. He wasn't even there. Yeah, all right, 259 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Chris Mannox was in Phoenix. Get 260 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: his thoughts on what's going on here. 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Here 306 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: is Paul George from that twenty eighteen press conference where 307 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: he introduced us to Playoff PE. You guys faxed them 308 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: so early in the season that Andre was the guy 309 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: who was primarily on Donovan for most of those possessions. 310 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, is that something that that you were going 311 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: to take on a garden donamod from the Georgian posession. Yeah, 312 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm used to it. I'm used this. Yeah, I ain't 313 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: met playoff p Yeah, I'm used to. I'm used to 314 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: these matchups. I'm used to playing against the best offensive guy. 315 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: Join these moments. So that's when Playoff PE was birthed. 316 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: Chris Mannix Sports Illustrated NBA senior Ryder joining us from Phoenix. 317 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: He was in attendance for last night's game between the 318 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: Clippers and the Suns. What's your big takeaway from last 319 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: night there, Chris. You know, just the resiliency of the Clippers. 320 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean we've seen it throughout these playoffs, going down 321 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: to Zip in both the first and second round. But 322 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, this come back and win in this game 323 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: was may maybe even more impressive to be. I mean, 324 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: they learned about the injury and well the extent of 325 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: the injury to Zoobach at the morning shoot around, and 326 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: to already down you know, Sergibaka, Kawhi Leonard and now 327 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: being down your best big man, going up against a big, 328 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: physical team with a guy like DeAndre eight and to 329 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: still be able to not only rally and win. But 330 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: they came out fast, Dan, I mean, they were up 331 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: twenty to five early in this game. They had multiple 332 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: opportunities in the second half to fold. You know, the 333 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: Clippers have this this this history of not showing up 334 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: in big moments. That history, regardless of what happens in 335 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: this series, I think has been uh, you know, largely 336 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: erased because of the performance of this team. But you 337 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: try to handicap this series. I wasn't surprised, said I 338 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if the Clippers won last night, because 339 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: why not? Now they go back home where you would 340 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: expect the Clippers to win. So what do you expect 341 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: here in Game six? You know, I have I have 342 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: no idea. You know, there's a there's an argument to 343 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: be made that, you know, this was kind of the 344 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Clippers shooting their shot here. This was everything they had 345 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: left in the tank. I mean, Paul George, look at 346 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: the minutes Paul George has played in this post. I 347 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: think it's like seven thirty five, which is like one 348 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty more than anybody else in these playoffs. 349 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean, sitting in the interview room after the game, 350 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean he looked exhausted. Marcus Morris, who has battled 351 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: a knee injury of his own, had to go forty 352 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: one minutes largely against DeAndre Ayton. He looked exhausted. I mean, 353 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: there's only so many you know, proverbial bullets they have 354 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: left in the chamber, and you know, going home, I'm 355 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: sure they'll get a bounce off that home crowd. And 356 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, one thing these these Clippers players said last 357 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: night to a man was that you know, they knew 358 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: they were down three one, but you know, they looked 359 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: at it like a couple of breaks here or there, 360 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: the value oop you know, better offensive game four, they 361 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: could have been up three one in this series, so 362 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: they've got a little bit of confidence. But at some 363 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: point all these injuries start to take their toll. And 364 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: if Zoobach can't go in this game six, I just 365 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing eight and struggle as much 366 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: as he did, and the son's play as poorly defensively 367 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: as they did. What is Kawhi leonard status. I wouldn't 368 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: expect to see him in these playoffs, no matter if 369 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: he goes Game seven. I don't believe it. There's I 370 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: have not heard any indications. And Kauai, as we all know, 371 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: plays everything kind of close to the chest. But you know, 372 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: you get kind of you talk to Clippers personnel, um, 373 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's on site or you know, you know, 374 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: via text message. You just don't don't get You don't 375 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: get positive indications that Kauhi is coming back. I don't 376 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: know the full extent of that injury, if it is 377 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: something that may require surgery down the line, but there 378 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: are no indications yet that that Kauai is you know, 379 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: and it returns imminence. But is this an injury that 380 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: is going to stay with him or a condition that 381 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: is going to stay with him the rest of his career. Well, 382 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: it's hard to say. With this injury specifically, now he 383 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: has had that knee problem that has need to be 384 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: load managed since his days at San Antonio, I would 385 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: say that particular version of the injury is going to 386 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: be with him for his entire career. I mean, Kawhi, 387 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: I forget how old he is, right around thirty at 388 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: this point, but so I don't expect that to change 389 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: anytime soon. So the course of an eighty two games season, 390 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: we're going to see Kauai at most play sixty sixty 391 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: five games for the rest of his career. This injury 392 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: felt a little bit different. This was one of those yeah, 393 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: you know kind of injuries in the moment that where 394 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: we may we may find out later that it was 395 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: an ACL injury that requires some type of surgery. But 396 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: there's the day of Kawhi Leonard Dan playing eighty games 397 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: in a season. Those days are long stance over gosh, 398 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't remember those days. When when's the last time 399 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: he was ever close to that? Twenty twelve maybe twenty thirteen, 400 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: Like we got to go back to the early San 401 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: Antonio days before you know, that injury happened that cost 402 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: him almost a full season, that last full season with 403 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: the Spurs. So look, it's it's not the end of 404 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: the world. I mean, Toronto won a championship with Kawhi, 405 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, being load managed throughout. I think the Clippers, 406 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, you could argue if Kawhi Leonard was healthy, Uh, 407 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, they'd be the favorites to win the championship 408 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: this year. There's there's a pathway for them to win, 409 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: or any team that has Kawhi learned to win with 410 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: him being load managed. It's just kind of a factive 411 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: life for him going forward. Have we been unfair We 412 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: the media been unfair to Paul George in our expectation level. 413 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, I think social media probably has. 414 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: But social media's unfair to everybody. Social media mostly boxing 415 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: fans hate me, like so like, I mean, it's like 416 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't it is kind of what it is when 417 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: it comes to critiques. Now, I'm sure if Paula Paul 418 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: George could hop in the time machine, he would go 419 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: back and not say what he said. In that clip, 420 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: you played like he would not call himself playoff P. 421 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: Like that has kind of stuck to him like White 422 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: on Rice there, and it ratcheted up the level of expectation. 423 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: If you call yourself playoff P and then you subsequently 424 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: have back to back early playoff exits in Oklahoma City, 425 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: you blow a three one lead with the Clippers, that 426 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: is going to be something you are tagged with for 427 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: the rest of his career. But when you're a superstar 428 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: and you don't win championships, I mean, Lebron James gets 429 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: criticized stility, He's won multiple championships, that that just kind 430 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: of comes with the territory when it comes to being 431 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: a player that status. Yeah. PG thirteen we were okay with, 432 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: like that was a nice cute nickname, you know, but 433 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: playoff P. You know, has anybody like has anybody that's 434 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: given themselves a nickname ever felt good about it? Afterwards? 435 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm struggling to think off the top of my head 436 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: who else has given themselves nicknames? But usually like Shock 437 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: gave Paul Pierce the truth and that's stuck, and that 438 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: worked well for Paul Pierce over his career. If somebody 439 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: gives you a nickname, it's great because even if it 440 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: doesn't uh, even if you don't live up to it, 441 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: you didn't give it to yourself, Like it wasn't you 442 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: that's called yourself that when you call yourself playoff p uh, 443 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: you you put a target on your back if you 444 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: don't play like someone that lives up to those expectations. Well, 445 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: Dion called himself prime time lived up to it. Yeah, Like, 446 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: if you can call yourself prime time, you know what 447 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: you call yourself and the greatest of all time like 448 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: and and certainly is in the discussion for for that 449 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: as or a favorite to be called that. I mean, 450 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: if if somebody calls you himself MVP, if he has 451 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: what he did and he won multiple MVPs, you lived 452 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: up to it. But if you're playoff p and you 453 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: and you struggle. Look, I do think he's this is 454 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: the best postseason he's had since he's Indiana days, you know, 455 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: maybe better because of the he's put in a position 456 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: without a Danny Granger, a Danny of David West that 457 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: are around him. Mean, look, he was shooting thirty five 458 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: percent going into that game five, and you look at 459 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: the first half and he was pretty passive, and you 460 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: could see kind of the critics start to warm up. 461 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think even I wasn't listening to it, but 462 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: I had seen tweets about the broadcast. We're criticizing Paul 463 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: George for that first half and then to come out 464 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: in the third quarter blow the doors off twenty points. 465 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: They get three three pointers in that period. I mean, 466 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: that was that was a playoff p level performance for 467 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: Paul George. Talking to Chris Mannox, the Sports Illustrated NBA 468 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: senior writer, why do boxing fans hate you? Uh? They 469 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: think my scorecards suck. I do that for the zone 470 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: and uh, boxing is polarizing that everybody thinks they they 471 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: know exactly what they're talking about. It's It's probably one 472 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: of the worst sports for that. Okay, I'm just I 473 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: just what's there? Watch a big fight, watch a big 474 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: fight finitor on social media? It's it's interesting. You know, 475 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't do social media. That's true. PAULI does, though, 476 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: so hiok a NICOTEXTI by the way, social media yesterday 477 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: was Sie Pippen. Were you monitoring social media? I was. 478 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: I saw I saw mclovin's tweets first and foremost, and 479 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: then I saw the clip. I mean, I'll be the 480 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: umpteenth person to tell you a tremendous interview with Scottie. 481 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought you did everything good to get 482 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 1: to the root of the racism charge, which is the 483 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: big one that's out there. I didn't think he had 484 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: a single answer that made any sense. I had people 485 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: texting me afterwards, NBA people that were just and I'm 486 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: kind of paraphrasing here, but like, does Scotti needs some help? 487 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: You know after this? You know what, what what's going 488 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: through his mind right now that he would sit there 489 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: and make a racism charge. I mean, look, he's been 490 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: upset about the Tony Kukoach play for decades now, Like 491 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: that's that's never gonna change. Despite the fact, amazingly, despite 492 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: the fact that Ku made the shot, like he hit 493 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: the shot and and it helped the Bulls advance, Scotty's 494 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: still upset about it. But there's no evidence that Phil 495 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: Jackson is a racist in any way, shape or form. 496 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: Players that have played for him have never charged him 497 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: with that before. It's that that's an ugly thing to 498 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: say unless you have specific examples to back it up. 499 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I watched the interview a couple of times, 500 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to have one single example to back 501 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: it up. I mean, there was a lot of weird things, 502 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan, you know, controlling the cameras, Like now 503 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: now we're getting into tinfoil hat conspiracy where he's you know, 504 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: he's telling Steve Curry's going to pass him the ball 505 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: because the camera that he controls is watching and he's 506 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: thinking about his documentary twenty years later. There's just a 507 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: lot of dot connecting that Scotty was doing in that 508 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: moment that didn't make a lot of sense. The Damian 509 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: Lillard situation in Portland, I can you clearly like what 510 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: is the situation? Because I'm not sure if he wants out? 511 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: Is this passive aggressive? Is there something going on with 512 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: what his future is going to be in Portland. Well, 513 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: Chauncey Billips gets introduced as the next head coach to day, 514 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: and my understanding is they're going to all try to 515 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: get into a room and figure out if this is 516 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: salvageable With Damian Lillard. I grow more and more skeptical 517 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: by the day Dan that it is. You know, I 518 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: said this on my podcast this morning, But like Damian 519 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Lillard is like the guy breaking up with the girlfriend 520 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: for the first time. He wants to break up with her, 521 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: but he doesn't know how to, so he's going about 522 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: it in kind of a ham handed type of way. 523 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: And that's what Dame's been doing. And it's not just 524 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of days. You go back to the 525 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: immediate aftermath of the loss to the Nuggets, and he 526 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: had this cryptic tweet that was our cryptic Instagram post 527 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: that was out there about how many times do I 528 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: have to keep doing this with the same result. He 529 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: then somewhat bizarrely goes out there and throws his support 530 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: behind Jason Kidd of all people, to be the head 531 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: coach of the Trailblazers, and and there have been more 532 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: obviously social media posts in the last couple of days 533 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: as well. Look, I don't I don't think this is 534 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: about the coach. I don't think it's about Blazers fans 535 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: criticizing him for his involvement in the coaching search. I think, 536 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: plain and simple, Damian Lillard, at thirty one years old, 537 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: is looking at the Trail Blazer's roster and saying I 538 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: can't win and I can't argue with him with that. 539 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they got beat by a Denver Nuggets team 540 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: without its second best player that subsequently went out and 541 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: got absolutely smoked by the Phoenix Suns in four games. 542 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: That loss has not aged well for the Trail Blazers. 543 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: So I think what it comes down to you for Lillard, 544 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: as loyal as he's been to Portland, is that he 545 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: wants to win as he in the final prime years 546 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: of his career, and this is kind of his sort 547 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: of somewhat clumsy way of going out and forcing that. 548 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: The irony of all this, Dan is that I think 549 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: a Damian Lillard trade is the best thing for both sides. 550 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: Lillard can find his way to a new situation, give 551 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: himself a chance to win, and Portland, which has really 552 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: no chance to win at the highest level with Damie 553 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: Lillard the next couple of years, can recoup one of, 554 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: if not the biggest trade haul in recent NBA history. 555 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Lillard has that type of value on the 556 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: open market. So this is kind of a it's an 557 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: awkward situation right now, but in the next few weeks, 558 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: even maybe months, if Damian Lillard is traded, that could 559 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: wind up being the best thing for both sides. Okay, 560 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: but the most likely destination and do not say the 561 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: New York Knicks, no, I mean, And by the way, 562 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: please Lakers fans stop like sending your trade machine things 563 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: out that include like Contavious Caldwell Pope as the centerpiece 564 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: of a deal like that's unless you're dealing Anthony Davis, 565 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: probably not getting Damian Lillard. Two things to remember, with Davis, 566 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna or with Lillard, You're gonna work with him 567 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: on a trade. You're not just gonna dump him like 568 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: on Oklahoma City or something like that where he can 569 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: play the final few years of his contract out. You're 570 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: gonna work with him and where he wants to go, 571 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to find a situation where he 572 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: can win. That means going to a team with at 573 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: least one second star that's on it. And then you 574 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: start to look at the return you get like you're 575 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: not dealing Damian Lillard for Bradley Beale, because Bradley Beale, 576 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: while being twenty eight years old and still a great player, 577 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: has one year left of his contract that is not 578 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: going to stay in Portland beyond one season. So you're 579 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: looking for kind of what say Oklahoma City got where 580 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: they got a blueship, young player in Shay Gilders Alexander 581 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: and a hall of draft picks. Using those as the 582 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: early parameters, I would say there are two teams right 583 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: off the bat that stand out. One is Philadelphia because 584 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is still out there and the Sixers still 585 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: have their draft capital over the next few years. Simmons 586 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: assigned through twenty twenty five, and as flawed as he is, 587 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: he's still a perennial All Star at twenty four years old, 588 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: who if he ever fixes his shot, has the potential 589 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: to be great. The other it's Boston. I can't believe 590 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: we're doing this once again, where the Celtics are in 591 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: the for another superstar, but here we are. Boston has 592 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. He's twenty four years old, he's an All 593 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Star for the first time. He gets better every single year. 594 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: You can build a trade package around Jalen Brown, a 595 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of the young players they have in Boston and 596 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: their cash of draft picks over the year at years 597 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: as well. It's like we're very early in this process, 598 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: and because Lillard is signed through twenty twenty five, you're 599 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: probably gonna have teams try to sneak in and find 600 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: a deal that works. But when this started to pick up, 601 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: those were the first two teams that I thought of 602 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: that are also, by the way, in the Eastern Conference, 603 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: we don't have to deal with Damian Lillard for more 604 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: than two times a season and never have to deal 605 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: with him in the playoffs. Thank you, Chris, We appreciate 606 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: your time as always. Bunn, you got it. Dan. That's 607 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: Chris Mann Exports, illustrated NBA senior writer. Oh make love 608 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: and all giddy? Yeah, how did the logistics work? Am 609 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: I allowed to print up my Lillard six Ers jersey? 610 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: Yet it's an available on NBA dot com that's all 611 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: I need? Well? I pre ordered my Tim Tebow jersey 612 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: and they said it's not coming till next month. I 613 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: hope that Tim is still on the team. By the way, um, yeah, 614 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: you know Damian Lillard and Ben Simmons and so Ben. 615 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: Is it Lillard's team or is it Joe ellen Bead's 616 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: team that it's Lillards? Well, I don't know. Oh my god, 617 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: we're back to this this problem seventy six ing it 618 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: out there? Is it? Is it Jason Tatum's team in Boston? 619 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: Or is it Damian Lillard. Can't you just let us 620 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: enjoy these fake trades? Yes, who's taking the last shot? There? 621 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: There's only one? Yeah, Paully. I love Chris Hecking, a 622 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: team that has him gotten together. Yet this is a mess. 623 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: They're never gonna all right, let's take a break. Hellay 624 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: you the day coming up next year on The Dan 625 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. 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I had to click over to 663 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: the actual broadcast and watch, and just because it was 664 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: a moment. It was a moment that's going to last 665 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: a lot longer than most of your shows. And I 666 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: wanted to tell you my one big takeaway from the 667 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen interview if I could, And it's awkward to 668 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: talk about, but I think one of the problems we 669 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: have is in our vast English language, we have one 670 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: word and that word is supposed to describe everything from 671 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: a guy who's a member of a plan to someone 672 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: who believes in horrible stereotypes. And yesterday, my initial reaction 673 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: is when I heard Pippen use the word racist, I thought, 674 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: I thought the worst extreme. I thought, oh my god, 675 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: he's calling the worst thing in the world that you 676 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: could say about philogram Phil Jackson. And I think, really 677 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: what we're dealing with is it's almost like a spectrum. 678 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: And the question I would love to ask Scottie Pippen 679 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: is would you have been upset? Would you have taken 680 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: the court if he had drawn up a plan and 681 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: to pass the ball to another African American player as 682 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: opposed to the one white guy who was on the court. 683 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you Doug for the observations. I 684 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: don't know how Scotty would answer that. But Scotty felt 685 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: like he was slighted in that moment. But Scotty, you know, Scotty, 686 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: this is basketball slighted that this Now to Scotti, it's 687 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: not he saw it deeper than that. To me, it 688 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: was Tony cou Coach, while being a rookie, did have 689 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: a decorated career in Europe and was considered a great 690 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: player coming over and a coup for the Chicago Bulls 691 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: to get him. But here is Scottie Pippen talking about 692 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: that moment when he sat down, Tony cou Coach stepped 693 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: up and hit the game winning shot. Oh. I mean, 694 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 1: it's not much to be said if you go back 695 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: and look at when Scottie Pippen inner the Bulls and 696 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: when Tony Coach inner the Bulls and who deserved the 697 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: last shot of the game. No, no, no, I understand 698 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: that Scotty I'm just going by what you said. You 699 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: said you need to read between the fine lines, and 700 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: then you go on to say it was a racial 701 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: move to give him Tony Coo coach a ride. So 702 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you knew that Scottie Pippen had been 703 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: with the Bulls from eighty seven ballot through the Pistons 704 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: and every other team that we had to get to 705 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: those three championships, wouldn't you give Scottie Pippen one opportunity 706 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: to get a last second shot without Michael Jordan? Like 707 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: one year without Michael Jordan, can I get one shot? 708 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: Like I'm doing all the dirty work. But all of 709 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: that I understand from the basketball standpoint. But when you 710 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: say a racial move, well why would why would Tony 711 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: who was a rookie get the last second shot and 712 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: you put me up a balance? That's what I mean racial? 713 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: Like that was Scottie Pippen's team on pace to be 714 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: an MVP that year, right, Yeah, okay, Well why would 715 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: you put him in a position not to be successful? 716 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you put him in a position to succeed? 717 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is not there, so who's next in line 718 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: for you? But if you talked to Phil about this, 719 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: because by saying a racial move, then you're you're calling 720 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: Phil a racist. I don't got a problem with that. 721 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: Do you think Phil was or is, Oh yeah, I'm 722 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm still trying to kind of sort this out. 723 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: When he says it that that in his mind he 724 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: views it as a racial move to give Tony cou 725 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: Coach the opportunity at that game winning shot. I think 726 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: the Bulls were down two games to none. I don't 727 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: think this was a moment where you say, you know what, 728 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: let me give it to Tony ku coach. He's white. 729 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: Phil's trying to win. I got that. That's just my 730 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: interpretation of it. Scotty says, you weren't in the locker room. 731 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: He's right, I wasn't. You were looking at this from afar. 732 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: He's right about that. To say that Phil didn't design 733 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: the play for Steve Kerr and used Jordan as a 734 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: decoy go back, because Michael was playing to the cameras, 735 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: he was about the documentary he was doing. I just 736 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: can't imagine that he's going, Hey, I'm going to design 737 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: a play and Mike is going to call that. Mike 738 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: is going to be the one that designs the play 739 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: for the cameras for the documentary that we didn't even 740 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: know it would ever air, because Mike had control over 741 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: the documentary and who knew that it was going to 742 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: surface and he was going to do a ten part series. 743 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: But in Scottie's mind, and that's the important part of 744 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: trying to understand this. I can look at this from 745 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: a logical perspective from somebody who was there with the 746 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls but not in the inner circle with the 747 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls, and say, logically, that doesn't make sense that 748 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: he's going to pick Tony ku Coach because he's white. 749 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: He picked Tony ku Coach because he was the right 750 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: person to take the shot, not the white person, the 751 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: right person, and he ended up hitting the shot and 752 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: Scotty didn't even celebrate. It was a selfish move on 753 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: Scotty's part, just like Scotty said, Mike playing baseball was selfish. Yes, 754 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: you can say that, but Scotty was being selfish in 755 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: the moment as well. Eight seven seven three d P 756 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: Show email address DPA dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle 757 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: at dp show John rom the US Open Champ's going 758 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,479 Speaker 1: to join us next hour. You know we we're gonna 759 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: have him on yesterday, and thankfully we said, John, you 760 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 1: don't want to be in the last hour after Scottie 761 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: Pippen comes on. Maybe John Rom can top Scottie Pippen 762 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: today somehow, but John will join us. Next down mclove 763 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 1: and the poll question, who's most likely to come back? 764 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: The Hawks down two one or the Clippers down three 765 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: two seventy Say the Clippers. I just don't know with 766 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: all the injuries, with the Hawks having the manpower to 767 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: go against the Bucks, who are a healthy team. You 768 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: look at the Sons and the Bucks. They should play 769 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: for the championship. They're the healthier teams here. I think 770 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: Trey Young being listed as I think questionable. I expect 771 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: him to play in this game. I just don't know 772 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: what we can expect out of him. And you're gonna 773 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: need a herculean task here. One hour in the books, 774 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: two more to go, setan Paul Fritzie Mclovenyer is truly 775 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: we're back with the US Open champion, John Rom and 776 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: your phone calls after this one more right in first 777 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: hour and it's a new partner of ours and they 778 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: have a new app stiple Wealth Tracker app. When it 779 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: comes to managing your investments, knowing where you stand as 780 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: half the battle, let me tell you about stephlebil Wealth 781 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: Tracker let you build your personal balance sheet, track your 782 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: net worth over time. 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