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<v Speaker 1>we go. How about that one? If you needed more

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<v Speaker 1>angles of our I need to do something about that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But no, we do appreciate everybody joining along today.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get into this thing real quick, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get into Scott. I always always run

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<v Speaker 1>out of time, so I want to make sure this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Brian brought a special here, boys, This is

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know the best combinations, best combinations, best

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of like the first three picks. This is great

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<v Speaker 1>because at eight o'clock this morning you were like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell are we going to talk about today? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know, Dank. Wait, come some stuff. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you some combinations out there, guys, and everybody kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fall along with me here please if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you out there. By the way. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start with this combination of Ridley Jewel Bates. Okay, got

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<v Speaker 1>that combination wide receiver, Rita Jewel Bates safety. Yeah, my combination,

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<v Speaker 1>first combination and so word, And for the sakes of

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<v Speaker 1>this exercise, don't We're not quibbling about range, no grade,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of just just take it for what it's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this one? How about more DJ Moore Shepherd

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<v Speaker 1>and more the safety from Southern miss and Shepherd being

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<v Speaker 1>the d tackle out of Fort Hayes, Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fort Hayes defensive tackle. How about this one. McGlinchey,

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<v Speaker 1>just Sicky Warner. Got that one. Two offensive guys and

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<v Speaker 1>a linebacker. Yeah, just McGlinchey, just Sicky Warner. Here's my

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<v Speaker 1>next one, Vanderish Harrison Saint Brown maybe a little, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little, Ronnie Harrison, Ronnie Harrison, right, Yeah, Ronnie Harrison say,

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<v Speaker 1>we might be stretching the truth a little on some

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<v Speaker 1>of these, but that's okay. Well, maybe you trade up Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>would Nimius Saint Brown? Yeah? Okay? Number five Landry Miller

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver from Memphis, Leonard from South Carolina State. Landry Miller, Leonard,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina State. Number six Evans chark sonat South Florida

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle. You with me, guys, Yeah, No, Hernandez Gallop

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<v Speaker 1>Avery with me on that one. Memphis lineback, yeah, Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>statewide receiver right, and the uteph guard and number eight

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<v Speaker 1>veya Golden Hamilton, the wide receiver from Penn State. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are my guys. That's eight. That's eight scenario. Eight scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>of combinations of guys, and like, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the names. The names probably aren't precise, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>think about. Okay, there'll give me some trade ups, but

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<v Speaker 1>not well not only that, but it just it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a good idea of the type of thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can expect, because, like I said, maybe maybe some of

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<v Speaker 1>the names are wrong, but like that's I really feel

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<v Speaker 1>like this is the type of stuff you're gonna see.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the types of picks you're gonna see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you right now, I got I got

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<v Speaker 1>eyes for a couple of them. A couple of them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you the one. What's the one that

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<v Speaker 1>makes the most sense for the Cowboys. I've got my

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<v Speaker 1>eye on two, the one that makes the most sense

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys. If you look at those eight, give

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<v Speaker 1>me the one that makes the most sense for the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. There's two right in the middle that I

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<v Speaker 1>think are really really nice for what this team wants

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<v Speaker 1>and needs. Uh And it starts and their their defense heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>Which the one I like the best because I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying this. You get Harold Landry at nineteen, a solid receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>and ant Any Miller at fifty, and then a linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>who maybe he's not a bona fide starting stud, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's a guy who comes in and bolsters your linebacker corps.

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<v Speaker 1>That Darius Leonard you get him at eighty one athlete

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Yeah, right on top of that, I love

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<v Speaker 1>you make you make the middle of your defense better

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<v Speaker 1>right away with Layton vander esh and Ronnie Harrison in

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<v Speaker 1>the first two picks. And then if Equanimius Saint Brown

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<v Speaker 1>is there at eighty one, which I don't really believe

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<v Speaker 1>that'll happen, but if he is, okay, so all over

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not even funny. So the one you like

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<v Speaker 1>the best was Landry Landry Miller absolutely, how about you there,

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<v Speaker 1>scout man. I highlighted three scenarios that were free. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just that were my favorite. Yeah, okay, I can't have

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<v Speaker 1>all nine players. Oh no, I mean yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 1>give me give me your best scenario. Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's different from what is probably most realisticpared to what

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<v Speaker 1>I would do. You know what I think? Oh? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>like the combination of more Shepherd more. I'll love that.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Moore's literally three of his pet casts exactly one Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're doing you're doing cartwheels. You get that Adrean

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<v Speaker 1>Shephard I've been talking about since November. I first saw

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<v Speaker 1>him out of Ford Hay State, and then Moore, who

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<v Speaker 1>finally is blowing up. He's your free safety that I

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<v Speaker 1>think we don't talk enough about this team needing a

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<v Speaker 1>free say. Oh no, I agree with you about that, Glad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you said that we can get into that. Lady.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the few in that same vein Ridley

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<v Speaker 1>Jewel Bates. You get your get the best receiver in

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<v Speaker 1>the Drafty, you get your mic linebacker, get your free safety. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you're getting three really good players. So

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<v Speaker 1>those two and then the third that I highlighted was

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<v Speaker 1>the first one that Dave said, with Landry Millard Leonard,

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<v Speaker 1>I like all three players. Landry is a top. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's thirteen over on my board. Miller is number three,

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<v Speaker 1>the number three receiver on my board. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>think Leonard that's a good value in the third round.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of those three scenarios would be I would

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<v Speaker 1>hope that's the direction they would go. Nobody highlighted McGlinchey, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>just Sicky and Warner. I'm glad you brought that up

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<v Speaker 1>for me because you you I already told you this upstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh tell me tell me more, Dave, I would hate

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<v Speaker 1>that so much for this for this team, but it

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<v Speaker 1>does it make the most sense. It makes no sense

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<v Speaker 1>at all. But if you move, if you moved, if

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<v Speaker 1>you if it makes no sense for me, period. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk about it in the stance of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. But in terms of the scenarios you like McGlinchey,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think. No, I don't like him for I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like either of those two picks for this team.

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<v Speaker 1>But just in general, yeah, just in general, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the draft. That's probably the best bang for

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<v Speaker 1>your buck of these entire eight because you're getting the

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<v Speaker 1>best tackle in the draft, and I think the best

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<v Speaker 1>tight end in the draft just overall, just overall, not

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<v Speaker 1>for this team, but I mean a tight end who

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<v Speaker 1>can do what Jesseki does is very intriguing. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you get a solid linebacker and Warner. If if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at that from a perspective of just the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. I hate it for the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>But is there one you hate more? Well, let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you about that, let me ask you about the

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<v Speaker 1>McGlinchey just Sicky Warner one. Yeah, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of what Dave said is I mean spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for this team, like Okay, Warner is not

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<v Speaker 1>the mic linebacker, right, He's probably a week a week

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<v Speaker 1>the will maybe play the sam though too, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably, But I mean I think Nickel play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think this team wants the mic, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how he I don't know if he's a

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<v Speaker 1>great fit, even though I do like him. I have

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<v Speaker 1>him as a second round player Kausiki. He's just not

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<v Speaker 1>the style of tight end this team wants, or the runner,

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<v Speaker 1>the blocker, excuse me for the running game, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're gonna just totally change your philosophy how you

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<v Speaker 1>use your tight ends. Right, He's not a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel comfortable lining up in line consistently and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing what Jason Witten does. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean McGlinchey, I mean, I'm fine with mcglinchy because

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<v Speaker 1>it stabilizes your right tackle position, you move Collins inside, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>um whatever. It's not. It's not a bad pick. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just one of those all right, fine, we'll we'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not glamorous, but it's it helps the football team.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. It's not a bad scenario by

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<v Speaker 1>any means terrible scenario for the Dallas Cowboys. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>one the scenari that would be the biggest reach, the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest reach for you, if you if if you said,

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<v Speaker 1>and again we talk about, you know, potentially where they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the board, there might be some guys they have

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<v Speaker 1>to take around early. Well and so, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to knock you, but just a reach for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it is probably the vander esh one. I think you obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can get vander Esh at nineteen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he'll be either what hey, great, awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fake pen drop right there. Oh darn. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that Ronnie Harrison lasts to fifty and I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly don't know that Equanimius same Brown lasts to eighty one.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the one that probably be the most unders.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably why it's so appealing is because we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>players we shouldn't be getting with our pick. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>the Scout draft or the Yeah that's the fans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got Chubb at nineteen. Yeah. The one that said

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<v Speaker 1>out to me that I would not like probably is

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<v Speaker 1>her Nan. I mean, I love well Hernandez. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want Avery in the third. Avery's not a third round

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<v Speaker 1>player to me, and I don't He's just say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only I don't think he's a mic so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't like that scenario. I mean Gallup, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he you know, he's solid. Hernandez is a

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<v Speaker 1>good player. So I'm okay with the first two picks,

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<v Speaker 1>but Avery, I don't want. So that's if you could

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<v Speaker 1>plug somebody else in it, Avery spot, then I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of putting you on the spot right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But they went Hernandez Gallup, Yeah, super complique Jefferson. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're looking for a third round okay, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>put plug Jefferson in there. What does that do to you? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>If I said, it's a lot more Hernandez Gallop Jefferson,

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<v Speaker 1>what would that have done to you? As far as

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<v Speaker 1>the relation to the other guys, that's a lot more appealing,

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<v Speaker 1>because how would one of your top ones. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't want the guard every well no, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>we know Amanti of I got that ye with the

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<v Speaker 1>moves that this team has made in free agency. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm a lot more open to guard now

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round because I don't feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>address the need the need at left guard, like sure

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<v Speaker 1>they could have in free agency. Sure. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm a lot more open to guard in the

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<v Speaker 1>because in the second third round there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of value unless you get in Austin Corbit or someone

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Can you let me pull this back away

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<v Speaker 1>from just these twenty four specific nulle It just makes

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<v Speaker 1>me wonder, you know, like the thought process we talk

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<v Speaker 1>so much about vander esh and Rashaan Evans because it's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, similar to the kind of married well, similar

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<v Speaker 1>to the taco thing. It's like, well, we probably got

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<v Speaker 1>to get this guy at nineteen if we were. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, should I feel

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<v Speaker 1>more optimistic than I than I do that you can

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<v Speaker 1>get a linebacker who fits your need on day two,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's Josie Jewel, whether that's Warner, whether that's um

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<v Speaker 1>Malik Jefferson throw. I mean, yeah, should I feel more

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic than I do? Or is my attitude that you

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<v Speaker 1>might want to get that guy at nineteen the right one?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to get the right one. But Okay, besides

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<v Speaker 1>Josie Jewel, who else are we looking at? Uh? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>And even push it back to the third Darius Leonard,

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<v Speaker 1>Fred Warren m Malik Jefferson, Like, is that good value?

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<v Speaker 1>Is what I'm trying. I mean, if they don't, all

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<v Speaker 1>you got is what's here? You know, you signed Joe Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Jalen, you got Lee. If they wait until

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<v Speaker 1>Friday to draft that position, is that okay? Because in

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<v Speaker 1>my head, I really don't think it is. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>going through all these names and maybe it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what do y'all think? Yeah, No, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good because I still believe in that in the first

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<v Speaker 1>taking the best player, you know, like I, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to forecast what the second and third rounds look like.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to look forward and say, okay, if we're

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<v Speaker 1>going with player A here, okay, the positions we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at in the second and third So that does factor in.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know, I love Josie Jewel. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>at fifty that would make sense. Um. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>the third round, I said, I don't know if Warrener's

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<v Speaker 1>the best fit. Would Jefferson get drafted before Jewel? Just

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<v Speaker 1>based on athleticism, it's certainly possible. Jewel improved his numbers

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<v Speaker 1>at his pro day. I don't know. To me, Jewel

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<v Speaker 1>the film is just so good on fuel. But but

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<v Speaker 1>are people gonna just ding him because the athletic testing

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<v Speaker 1>and you've predicted that before the combine. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's definitely possible because teams would get so infatuated

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<v Speaker 1>with the numbers. So yeah, definitely possible that could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And Darius Leonards is the kind of the wild card

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<v Speaker 1>and a smaller school guy who has a lot of ability,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you went in the second round, that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprising. Yeah, So you know, I think, going along

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<v Speaker 1>with what you're saying, you know, you almost have to

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<v Speaker 1>take one of those linebackers at fifty, whether that's Jewel, Leonard,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whoever. You want to make sure you get

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<v Speaker 1>which And I think my stock answer when people ask

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<v Speaker 1>me this stuff is, you know, if it were up

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I love DJ Moore. I drafted him at nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>But trying to think like the Cowboys, I wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>that because I like my odds that I can find

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver I feel good about in the second or

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<v Speaker 1>third round way more than I do linebacker. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here talking about it and is my attitude about that, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I not giving the Day two linebackers enough credit?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right because you know, if Layton, Vander

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<v Speaker 1>es Ra, Shaun Evans are there at nineteen, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the lead horse. I think that's the favorite. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're right too, So, which the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>think that tells that I mean again, my opinion doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really matter as much as what they think, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why I go back to that time and time again,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I want to convince myself that I can

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<v Speaker 1>believe in one of these Day two linebackers. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think the smart money is nineteen, right, And we look

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<v Speaker 1>at Okay, they're doing a lot of work on DJ Chark. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and DJ Chark is someone that might or

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<v Speaker 1>might not be there at fifty, right, you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>in that range. Is he in the same boat like

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<v Speaker 1>Miller gives Miller of fifty? Yeah? Yeah, So how about

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<v Speaker 1>Washington because there's another guy that they had a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>visit on. Yeah, can I this is I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just throwing out if you're talking, I'm not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to throw this out like I came up with

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<v Speaker 1>it all on my own. Anybody with half a brain

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<v Speaker 1>who follows the draft could do this. But it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hit me this morning that you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they traded up from forty eight to thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four for d Law sure it was or forty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was. I mean, maybe you're looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>scenario where if you're you know, we talk about nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve all the time, if you're willing to jump

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<v Speaker 1>from fifty to the mid forties, Oh no, we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about You're right about that, you could probably get most

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<v Speaker 1>of the risk. I mean, most of those guys will

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<v Speaker 1>be there for you. I feel like, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine Ridley and Moore are definitely gone, Chark

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<v Speaker 1>might be gone, Sutton might be gone. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like those that might be something boy look into.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like his point though the run of

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers is going to start at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the second or what position are we gonna get the

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<v Speaker 1>run on? I think they're good chance. I'm I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of glad you mentioned Sutton. I think we need to

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about No, that's that's fair, because he's part

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<v Speaker 1>of this whole thing, right, Yeah, Well, and The big

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<v Speaker 1>thing with Sutton that we've said from day one, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a protecyplical x he exactly. You know, it's very similar

0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to Dez Bryant. We don't need to talk about him. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well now with everything going on with des Broun, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, we need to talk more about Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>if he's yeah, I mean he could go in the

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<v Speaker 1>late first easily, or he could go in the early second.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, I think we're gonna see that run

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<v Speaker 1>on receivers and Courtland Sutton's not gonna last very long.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if people excuse me that, I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna just say, you know, with the way

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers have gone the last several years, that we

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<v Speaker 1>could just wait into the second round and get a

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<v Speaker 1>better receiver than well, yeah, you look at the receivers

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round the last few years. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of duds. Yeah, I mean two years ago with

0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Corey Coleman, Laquon Treadwell, Dockson, oh yeah, last year in

0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the top three, in the top ten with Corey Davis,

0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Mike Williams, John Ross, all these receivers. Now, I think

0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.760
<v Speaker 1>it's unfair to say, oh, we shouldn't take a first

0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.880
<v Speaker 1>end right over this year, because you know, scouts sometimes

0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.320
<v Speaker 1>think that way. Yeah, you know, you're right. Everybody just

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:12.240
<v Speaker 1>conveniently leaves out twenty fourteen when they have that conversation too.

0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.399
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, in the last three years, they're all

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<v Speaker 1>bus well, what about in the last four years because

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen was pretty bad at heavens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really trying to okay, we think, okay, just

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of who's your favorite on this? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>all these these eight scenarios gonna say something terrible. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the More. I'm the fan of the

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<v Speaker 1>More Shepherd More. Yeah, the law firm of More Shepherd More.

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<v Speaker 1>That does no, I mean that's a that's it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what though, Landry Miller Leonard is not bad either,

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<v Speaker 1>not bad, I think, not bad. Off my sheet here, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't the whole wasn't the whole point we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Yeah, but we hadn't talked about the veya

0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Gulden Hamilton. When is that just is that just kind

0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of a mah, I don't want to I'll say it. Well, Golden, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like Hamilton. I'd rather get the first round pick, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got It's got nothing to do with what I

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<v Speaker 1>think of Vida Veya as a player. But I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this a million times. I'll believe they draft a d

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<v Speaker 1>tackle in the first round when I see it. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I see that, I'm just like, okay, whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all I mean, I told you it's not that

0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I dislike Golden, but I like y'all hype him up

0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to the point where I'm scared. He's a badass. Y'all

0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.040
<v Speaker 1>talk about him like he's gonna be no watch him,

0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.199
<v Speaker 1>y'all talk about it. He goes somewhere else. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Yeah, you're like, who's camp chance. They did

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<v Speaker 1>that same thing with that Iowa kid last year with

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<v Speaker 1>the Charger. Oh he can't run, he can't run. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna that son of a gun is a football player.

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<v Speaker 1>I will have talked about him a bunch. Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I will absolutely give you all the credit you deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>You should give us credit. I'm scared because you two

0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.240
<v Speaker 1>think he's Cam Chancellor and nobody else is. Oh, he'll

0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.240
<v Speaker 1>get his uniform. I think he's an outstanding Nickel safety

0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.080
<v Speaker 1>in this draft that he's gonna be a phenomenal player.

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<v Speaker 1>He will. He's gonna be a mean SOB for somebody's team.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish it was my team, Cincinnati, where are you?

0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it will be my Bengals. By the way, in

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<v Speaker 1>my seven round mock draft that I did to all

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred fifty six picks, Antonio Callaway in the fifth round,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you think I had him going? Don't Bengals? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, please God, all right, real quick. The one

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<v Speaker 1>you like the best. We'll close on this one. The

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<v Speaker 1>best one you liked again. If if if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to take one of these, I'd probably say Landry Miller

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Leonard Okay, I think it addresses all your major needs.

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<v Speaker 1>You get an awesome pass rusher in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, it's fine, it'll be boring if we all agree. No, no, no,

0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:32.960
<v Speaker 1>look at this face. He's trying to figure out which

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<v Speaker 1>one he wants. I want to like, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go with the law Firm. I want to get more Shepherd. Whoa,

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.879
<v Speaker 1>whoa whoa? You don't like the law Firm. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go with that one because that those are

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.800
<v Speaker 1>my pet cats. But I would probably agree with Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Landry Miller. I mean, I love it. That's a good

0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a good one. That's a nice haul. That is

0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:51.960
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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate the guys throwing that up. Oh, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>pull down a little. There we go. There we go,

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<v Speaker 1>The Beast. Sixty one pages of a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>draft in film. Make sure you pick that up. You

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<v Speaker 1>will not be disappointed. I promise. That is on Dane

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me, trust me, that's that's worth. It's weight in gold,

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<v Speaker 1>worth your weight in gold. Right. There a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>information in both magazines, so please please check it out. David,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me something good about Tommy John too. By what

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just the most comfortable undergarments I've ever worn.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talk about the underwear all the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend the shirts. In the socks. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want to be comfortable for draft. Weegain. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>here in the studio if you're listening to this show,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably gonna be glued to your couch or your

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<v Speaker 1>recliner or your computer. J Miller light and yeah, get

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<v Speaker 1>some Miller light. Orders, Tommy John order some wings. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get going. The diet starts after the draft. Absolutely, worry

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<v Speaker 1>about that later, but do so in some comfortable Tommy

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<v Speaker 1>John Tommy Johns, thank you very much for their time

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Okay, one of my favorite times. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>ed Ka Hill for creating this a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Twitter. Were on the Twitter already seven minutes behind,

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<v Speaker 1>so I already don't jack around today. Let's answer some questions.

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:07.879
<v Speaker 1>We'll go. We got some questions. Anthony wants to know, Dane,

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you said four minutes by sorry, Oh, you're right because

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.680
<v Speaker 1>we started late. Whatever, Dane, Anthony points out, you said

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>on the last show that you had a first round

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 1>grade onto Marcus Lawrence. He fell to thirty four cowboys

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>traded up and got him. Can you give us an

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<v Speaker 1>idea of some guys who you think that might happen

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>with this year? First round ish guys who fall into

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the second round happens every single year. It does happen

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<v Speaker 1>every year. This year, we just don't have as many

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>first round guys, so I think it's tougher to see

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. You know, last year we had what

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Kevin King fall into the second, Dalvin Cook, which obviously

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.959
<v Speaker 1>this team wasn't interested in Dalvin Cook. You know at

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 1>durn Payne maybe, Yeah, durn Payne would be a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I would I would surely. Look. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great name. He's more of a one two, but

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that could slip out of the top thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two and you know, be available in the second. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys used in the first. Hughes is

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<v Speaker 1>another one in Oliver. I think Isaiah Oliver too. It

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>should be in that conversation. Josh Jackson too, Josh Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as great as the production was at Iowa

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<v Speaker 1>this past year, still a lot of questions. Can you

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>hold up a man coverage? Is he you know, gonna

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to tackle? All right, let's twist it around

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, because Ari wants to know who's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who fits that category, who you would move up for.

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Kind of touched on that with the receivers and going defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be a name. Yeah, I'm going James

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<v Speaker 1>or Smith. I'm scared to hear. So no, no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>se sorry from second Marcus Lawrence. Oh, I think Dave's

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<v Speaker 1>right the wide receiver connection. Yeah, because with that, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of whoever goes first, and you know, we'll just say

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<v Speaker 1>Ridley and morgo exact twenty top twenty five, we're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see Chark, We're gonna see Sutton, We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to see these receivers come off the board at some

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<v Speaker 1>point early second. So yeah, I think that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, Daniel's first round player for you? Yeah? Easy, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was thinking about it. He might be the

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<v Speaker 1>best center prospects. It's Alex Mack okay, like he's I'm

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to think. Oh, I like it what you're saying.

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>He's a good player. I watched a guard from Iowa

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>yesterday Welsh, Welsh, and every time Daniels is saving his rear. Yeah,

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I mean. It's just it's incredible. But so

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<v Speaker 1>you mean he's there's no way he gets this top

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<v Speaker 1>of the second round. No, I don't think. So, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what could I convince you to do it? For a safety?

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, like we talked about Ronnie Harrison. Yeah, maybe Bates,

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I say, Bates or read Have they shown any of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have they looked at They have not? I say I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he workouts or not a top thirty. No, he

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>went to top thirty. I mean they went that direction,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be a total you know, yeah, covert operation there

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>would be. I think again, how about that one of

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<v Speaker 1>those defensive ends like uh Eca four, you know somebody

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, I mean, do you love one of

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>them enough to go and get it. I'm just throwing

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<v Speaker 1>a name it wars ard Key gonna be in this thing.

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Good point. See that's obsane. It's not ardon Key trading

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<v Speaker 1>up for arden Key. You might be getting an eighty one. Okay, Well,

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying though, maybe something they're gonna bring this

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>guy in arden Key is gonna be a vis. They're

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna they're doing their homework on him, and he's the

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>type of guy you need to do your homework on obviously,

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>figure out what's what makes him tick. Okay, again, the

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends tight. I'm okay, drafted a tight end, just

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<v Speaker 1>not in the first two round. But you wouldn't trade

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<v Speaker 1>it for a time. No, I'm not trading. I'm just

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:31.719
<v Speaker 1>tight end again, what about will Hernandez if he falls? Oh?

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I like that, I do like that. Would you give

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<v Speaker 1>up eighty one to get her Nandez at thirty nine?

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<v Speaker 1>Forty mm hmmm, I would. I'm thinking, who do we

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>get in the first take a receiver and whatever. You

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>almost have to take defense if you're gonna find back guard,

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<v Speaker 1>like take Evans Vanders at nineteen and then Hernandez. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. I can live with that. Let's go. Austin

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>wants to know, well, we lose our safety though at

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>eighty one? Yeah? More? Okay, sorry, go ahead. S happens

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>in the draft. You know a lot of two first

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>round players though, Yeah, s happens a lot of times

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>in the draft. Two parter. Austin wants to know, do

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>you buy the Josh Allen that one smoke? And he

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>also wants to know, guy we're not which I know.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>I know what his grade is because I have the beast.

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>But you can't follow grades with quarterbacks, right, any chance

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Mason Rudolph gets up there into before the Cowboys pick,

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe pushes a guy down the board. You can't rule

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>anything out, but Mason Rudolph in the top in the

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>first round is craziness to me, but I don't know

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it's craziness to you, but it won't be crazy. Were

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>comparing him to Ben Roethlisberger, who Mason Rudolph No, sighing,

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Who's compared size, size, physical ability, farm Stream. I could

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>walk down the street and find a guy that has

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>that size. Wow, I mean, I don't understand the parallel. Well,

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>your hate for Mason Rudolph is impressive. It's just it's

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>not sports hate. By the way, for sports it's always sports,

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 1>always sports hate. It's just he's what do you see

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>on film that suggests that he's going to be this,

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, big time NFL start, and that you better

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>think he's a big time NFL start if you're gonna

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>take him top twenty. He launches a lot of those

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>balls down the field that will say and those guys,

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, unless Mike Gundy's coming with him and bringing

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that Oklahoma State scheme, very simplistic, very quarterback friendly, where

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you know you don't have to readcoverage. His consistent basis

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you meant you have one read usually pre snap, and

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you're throwing that making that throw so and I mean

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma State they have you know, we ding James Washington

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.479
<v Speaker 1>week Marcel Eatman, Sure running four routes? Sure, okay, well

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that part of that, we ding Mason Rudolph. We're only

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>having to throw to four routes. You know, you do

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that it's possible. I do, because well, I don't

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>know if it's possible Top twenty like, if he's not

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>going to the late first to a team like that

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>sounds more plausive spurger, you know, twenty seven. I mean

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>in the Saints, people talk about the sides wanting a

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback maybe oak screen on how high people like Baker Mayfield.

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Yeah, it's it goes a little

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>bit against the gray what we usually like Quack we

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>usually think of the quarterbacks. Yeah, but I think someone's

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna fall in love with ok yeah, I think, uh, well, okay,

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>how about Alan or one? Oh yeah, oh yeah, we

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't touch on that. Please please say no no. I

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's yeah, it's possible. I don't think John Dorsey

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a hundred percent knows who they're taking yet. Yeah. I

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>think he probably feels really good about where they're leaning.

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>But Josh Allen is in Brea today at the Brown's facility,

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's making his case for why he

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>should be the number one pick. Look, you can't rule

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it out. So many people want to pigeonhole John Dorsey

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>into he wants this type of quarterback. Why why are

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>we doing this? Like he's He's made two quarterback moves,

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>significant quarterback moves in his tenure as a general manager.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>He traded for Alex Smith and he drafted Pat Mahomes.

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Those are two different quarterbacks. So, I mean, I've said

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>this to you before though, like I'm reluctant to say

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that Mahomes is a successful pick yet, Like I mean,

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it. In the skill set, like the

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>type of quarterback you're looking at, okay, uh, there's a

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>two different styles of quarterback and so and I don't

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>think we can paint a picture of exactly what John

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Dorsey looks like. Do you want a big arm? I

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>think every general manager evaluator wants a big arm, But overall,

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you want a guy that's gonna win. You want to

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>get it's accurate, and that's why I still think the

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>favorite of Sam Darnold. But there are too many whispers

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>going on that Josh Allen is the guy. I mean,

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>just remind you, guys. Something Danny at Lang had better

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>knowledge stats than Josh Allen. Let me. Let me remind

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you guys, is something the Browns play in a division

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that is completely outdoors. Yeah, they play in cold weather

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>cities late in the year, John Dorsey, for my years

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in Green Bay, we learned this, you better have a guy.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And we in the problem with as we drafted Terrell Buckley,

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>who was a corner from Florida State instead of taking

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Troy Vincent from Wisconsin. Okay, now apply this to quarterbacks. Okay,

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>if you live in cold weather, if you play in

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>cold weather, you understand cold weather. There's something too that

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's part of the path. Okay, you're shaking

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>your head. But it was something that we talked about.

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Harvest from Southern just about to say but but that's

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.719
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, though far hate but he adapted because

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of because of body type and hand size, and he

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>had the talent. Yeah, let's not let's not act like.

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's in my mind, I was just about to see

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>La Manning. Well, let's not know, but let's not act like.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's not act like. I don't buy it that shouldn't

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>be a reason any of the three prototypical Maybe not

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfiel. Baker Mayfield would not fit well in Cleveland

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, any him with his body tapes. Sam

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Darnold was terrible at his pro day in the rain.

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I might give more credence to that. But it's different

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>being a cold weather quarterback. I'm just telling you that, right,

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>it is. But I think if you've got the talent

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to go top five, you can adapt. That's my point.

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But just because Josh Allen played in cold weather doesn't

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>mean he was good. No, no, no, no no. I'm

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>just saying though, when you look at these quarterbacks, he

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>is the one. He is the one that played in

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and and, but he wasn't good in cold weather. I

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>think that's a silly reason to draft him over somebody else. No,

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not a silly reason, but when it's part

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>of what you think, think about when you're drafting these quarterbacks. Seriously, No,

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I think they're That conversation does play a part in this,

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree, But that is I think people can say,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Carson Palmer, I get it to me if you have,

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>but you have to have the body type. If you

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>have arm strength to hand I mean, but have to

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>have don't you think darnold he's got talent. Let's you

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>have these two quarterbacks neck and neck like you can't decide.

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which one's better, which one's better? Maybe

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll use that as Okay, you know what, this guy

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>has done it in cold weather. You know I would

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe that would give the edge, But you would have

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to me, you would have to have those quarterbacks completely

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>even to use that as a reason draft one over

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the other. If I Tom Brady had success, sure Michigan,

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>he's well, he's also as well. He's mentally tough. You know,

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers played his college ball on the

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>West Coast. How about that? Yeah? Again badass another but

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>then but then again, body type, hand size things. I mean.

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And and by the way, twenty three other teams passed

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>on that to get him. And I'm just saying, and

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Ted Thompson tried to pass on it too. I'm just saying.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just something you think about. Is it the overlying

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.720
<v Speaker 1>factor or no? But I'm just telling you Dorsey comes

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>from a program. I was part of that program. This

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>is something you think about. I'm not saying that you're

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>wrong that they think about it. I just hope that's

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>not the reason that they pick him. It's not going

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to be the overlying of the over lying. Would you

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>draft would you draft a lesser quarterback for that reason?

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to. I think you have to

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 1>consider though about if a quarterback cast functionality in cold conditions.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to consider that. Would you drafted

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>lesser quarterback because of that reason? Though? If you have

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Sam if you think Sam Donald's the best quarterback in

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>his draft and Josh Allen's number two, would you, if

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>you're general manager, the clear if they were, if they were,

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 1>if they if they were even and no, no, I'm saying,

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>if you thought Sam Donald was the best quarterback in

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>this draft, yeah, Josh alllying number two? Yeah, clearly one

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.479
<v Speaker 1>above the other. I think it was something I would

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>surely think about. Yes, I would surely think about. I

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>can't go there with you give me the better quarterback. Um,

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, we kind of got off our We got

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>off our rapid fire. We always do. It's fine, John,

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>which this is Dane mentioned this in the first segment.

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>John said, given the need at safety, we would all

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>agree it's a pretty big need on this team. Are

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you surprised by what appears to be somewhat of a

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>lack of interest. I mean, they brought in the Southern

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>miss kid, they brought in the ULLL kid, but Walker, Yeah,

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>talking mid round prospects though, I mean, like what it does,

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and Terrell Edmunds is another one. But it doesn't seem

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like they're doing for instance, they're turning over every stone

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver, and I agree with the question that

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't seem like they're doing that at safety. To me,

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not a great safety group. I mean, there's free

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>safety group. Try to draft Harrison earlier, yeah, we did,

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>but strong anyway, we have any reason to suspect that

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>they're interested in him, because I mean I don't see

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the crystal clear indication that that's the case like I

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>do with well, name a receiver. You know, I think

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just more of a case. You know, how many

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>guards is this team brought in? Maybe maybe they know something,

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they know something we don't. At fifty they're gonna

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>move that thing to John Snyder. Oh oh yeah, I

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.240
<v Speaker 1>thought you meant trade up. But yeah, there's always that too. Yeah,

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that's I think that maybe they're saying, Okay, let's look

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>at the down the line safety guys and as a

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>as an ace and a whole kind of thing. Maybe

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna move fifty. I know nothing, I'm just saying that.

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I also think I think they feel really really good

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>about Xavier Woods. They do, so they do. They do

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>feel good about Xavier Woods. Okay, And it's just it's

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>not a great free safety group. You know, after Derwin

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>James to me, I'm not drafting another safety in the

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>top twenty, and then you know Bates and Justin Reid, Okay,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>solid players. This team just might not like him. Great segue,

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:53.919
<v Speaker 1>because ajor our old buddy Golden, our old buddy laugh.

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not laughing. It's not about he's gonna be a

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>really good player. It's not about the right It's not

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>about the player anyway. Um, our old senior Bowl buddy,

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Henderson from Hawaii Combine snub free safety. Can he

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>does he fit that? What do you think of him

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 1>as a player? I would play him down. Yeah, he's

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>he's more of that that type of safety. Um Honestly,

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>he's a little bit of both. Because there are times

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>when you see him, he'll miss him tackles, you know,

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.319
<v Speaker 1>and but there are other times where he plays does

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>a nice job in coverage. You know, he's he's kind

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of like our money Watts because a sometimes player and

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes he looks great and because coverage sometimes

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't. Sometimes he looks great against the runs, sometimes

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't. I know that probably describes a lot of safeties.

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>But Trayvon Henderson I think is similar in that respect.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Kaiser White strong West. Yeah, he's a strong I know

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 1>there are specifically I know three teams that think he's

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker on the draft board, so I I think

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>he's more that I think this team might be one

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of those teams too. Yeah. Yeah, how much does he weigh?

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Dane Quick two twenty something? Oh wow? Okay, yeah, I

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>mean he's Dion Jones. He was two eighteen Yeah at

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>the combine, So bring it on. Okay, good question from

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>our friend of the show, Jonah. Yeah. Most likely guy

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to be picked who did not visit here, if that

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>makes sense, A guy they didn't bring him in, which

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>we all know that that's a big Ooh, that's that's him.

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Or Derwin James. I was thinking more back of the line,

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>guys like maybe a second round pick that they didn't

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>bring in, or you could even cheat about Mica Fitzpatrick,

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 1>m another good name. I like all of this way

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>more than what I was gonna say, which I was

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 1>going to point out technically, I mean Courtland, Sutton, Will

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>hernandez Uh. Some of those guys aren't visits, but they're

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>guys that the team is intomateure familiar with Sue reason

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>or another. But I like y'all's answers a lot better.

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>If Mika Fitzpatrick slides to maybe thirteen, that's exactly where

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I in my mock draft should be up in the

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>next few days, hopefully today that's reached out. That's six spots.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>That's where I have him going thirteen the Redskins. Remember

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 1>what happened last year with the Redskins. Oh yeah, they

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.320
<v Speaker 1>took Alan, a pretty good Alabama defensive player who we

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>thought was a top pick. Yeah. Could happen again this

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>year with a pretty good Alabama defensive player, which thinks

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>the top pick fall to them in the teens. Why

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>is he gonna fall because Alan had the shoulders? Yeah?

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>What's many people are overthinking it, you know, trying to

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>say he's only a nickel corner and they don't have

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>an idea where to play. Yeah, I think they're I'll

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>take him right now, absolutely, and I figure it out.

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So I think he's I don't think you like the

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>whole Roquan Smith. He I don't know. People aren't talking

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>about him enough. He's one of the top. You don't

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 1>think five six players in this draft. I don't know

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a single reputable publication that think he goes any later

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>than like ten, maybe eleven. Yeah, but I'm talking about, like,

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.800
<v Speaker 1>why aren't we talking about him at six and the Colts?

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Why aren't we talking about like I'm saying, like he's

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the top. I guess the quarterbacks going early.

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's pushing good players down. So also, maybe

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>who's the three of the three guys of the other quarterbacks,

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the other guys other than quarterbacks? Who are the three guys?

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Is it the guard Nelson? It's Barkley, Barkley Smith. I mean,

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>how do you where do you have Smith in that?

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>And the and the and the guys other than the quarterbacks? Yeah?

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's good. That's gonna tell you. He's

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>probably the one that people He's not for everybody. I'm

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>sure because it's crazy. You know who wasn't for everybody?

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Derek Brooks? Yeah, how you know when how could Roquan

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Smith not be for everybody? Yeah? But size? When When

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>John said, did you say idiot undersize? Underside linebackers are

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>dominating in the league? Right now? When looks at uh

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Quan Smith, Derek Brooks, sirens are going to go off

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>in his head. Yeah, and that's why I don't think

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>he gets past ten. I think ten's kind of us floor.

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, Dave, I'm sorry, bums out there, No, you

0:40:58.320 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>could get better there. We can trade up to nine.

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, we did a lot better. Do we have

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>any more time? Although San Francisco? One more question? One

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>more question I got, and then I gotta hit it.

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Um all right, we don't have a lot of time.

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>John said, three of your favorite prospects who you don't

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys will draft. Let's just limit it to

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>one for sake of time. But just a guy, and

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I don't mean like Derwin Award from Ohio State. Yeah,

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 1>my guy that'd be up there. Um are I said

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>this earlier. I'd probably say Vita Veia, which I know

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they brought him in, but I don't really believe that

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>they'll draft him. But ward wards money. All right, guys,

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0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>can do that. And I'm gonna start off with a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of guys. I've been getting a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of requests about so I'm gonna start it off

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to find me an edge rusher without you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Harold Landry's not there left. Sure tell me more about

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas States Javon Roland Jones. It's a good name guy

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>who led or almost at the FBS record, almost broke

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>turrell sugs curacy of three and a half. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a tweener. He doesn't have ideal size,

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 1>ideal length, and he didn't tested her who will No,

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I was very surprised by that. Yeah, the combined numbers

0:44:56.719 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>weren't good, and then the pro days numbers were even worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Um to me, he's more of a late round, sub

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<v Speaker 1>package rusher. Who you know. He's gonna maybe give you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of juice off the bench, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think it's enough tools to give you consistent

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 1>snaps and consistent pressure. Well, I tell you what, you

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<v Speaker 1>got him right. The thing about him interesting and you

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<v Speaker 1>compare him to he almost broke Suggs record. Remember how

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.399
<v Speaker 1>bad Suggs was on his pro day? Yeah, like day,

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't get him to run a fast forty. Yeah, he

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>just kept struggling with that and all that. Yeah, this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what I think Dane's got this guy right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think edge rush or subplayer. That's really kind of woody,

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and he struggles versus the run. There's some strength issues there,

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.959
<v Speaker 1>so he just he's not going to be out there

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<v Speaker 1>on every down and right, he's gonna struggle to make

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<v Speaker 1>a roster probably. I mean the college production is great,

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>but he's gonna have to really make some moves and

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>he might not get drafted. He's a late round PFA

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to call him up. What about another name I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in my mentions on no short number of occasions.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more about Middle Tennessee State corner char char

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 1>verys Ward another combine snub. Who know how you love

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>those combines? Yeah? I do. Ward is in my seven

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>round mock draft. He didn't make the cut. Use why

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 1>because teams like tall, long, sure corners with speed and

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that's what he is. Um. You watch him on tape.

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>He plays a little press, plays a little off. You know.

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>The footwork is uh doesn't have the discipline that you

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<v Speaker 1>want in terms of the pedal h exploding out of

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>his brakes, and that's where receivers can create some separation.

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's the raw traits. It's when you have that height,

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you have that length, you have that speed, and the

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>coaches say he's a smart guy, a really bright individual,

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 1>so that certainly will help him as well. He's he's

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<v Speaker 1>a type of you know, no other position is drafted

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>more on the stop Watch than corner, and so he's

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<v Speaker 1>the type of corner that gets drafted six seventh round.

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 1>You take a shot on guys like that. Yeah, when

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 1>you talk about the tall, rangy guys that are late,

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>where do you have yet him? I have him high.

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I like you a lot. Okay, then I know both

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>sold me on him. Yeah, I have him a little

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 1>bit lower. He's the Boston college kid. Yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like at six one ninety pounds, but he's four

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.399
<v Speaker 1>or five four kind of guy. But I thought about

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. You know, guy that plays press got

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<v Speaker 1>it's long guy that you know kind of gets. So

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>you've got him a little bit higher. Where do you

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 1>have him in your relationship? I'm sorry to take this nude.

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about long rangeing. Okay, okay, So third round

0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that that's a that's a little bit higher than what

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I would have him there. I kind of thought it

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:31.800
<v Speaker 1>was more of a I thought more of him was

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a third day guy. But you're right. I mean I

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 1>was trying to compare, okay, of the tall guys that

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>play press, you know that teams like he's he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better than where I have him on

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>the board. How how tall is this kid? Ward? Ward? Uh,

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:48.959
<v Speaker 1>just just a hare hundred sixty one, Yeah, two hundred pounds.

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 1>He ran a four four four at the Pro Day,

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 1>jumped really well, thirty seven and a half in verse

0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 1>eleven foot broad. It doesn't it doesn't make sense to

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>use a huge pick on a cornerback given what they

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.280
<v Speaker 1>did last year. But I just feel like they're gonna

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>give Chris Richard a day three dB to work with.

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I know they need a safety, but even a cornerback.

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they have ten picks. Let him take a

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>chance on a guy whose body type he likes or whatever.

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:14.560
<v Speaker 1>One thing that worries me with Corners is when they

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 1>have bad three cone time. Yeah. You know in corners

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you have learned that transition, you know, hip turn all

0:48:21.160 --> 0:48:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that and tre various wards three cone time with seven

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>five two, which is either he didn't know how to

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 1>do it or he's just not very good. There is

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of stiffness too. Yeah, you know, and

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that will tell you that's that's that's a that's a

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>red flag right there. For sure. I saw Brian watching

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>this guy the other day and it piqued my interest.

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Tell me more about Mississippi State tight end Jordan Thomas.

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:47.760
<v Speaker 1>It's too Jordan Thomas is in this draft. Oklahoma corner

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and the tight end Thomas is fact that he just

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>had that ready to go. He's just like, yeah, there's

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>two of them. Okay. Uh, he's gonna say it when

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>it happens in the draft. Yeah, when we're on that

0:48:56.960 --> 0:49:01.080
<v Speaker 1>one night, he's gonna ask which one Thomas. It really

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:03.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't on the radar coming end of the year. He

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 1>had nine catches as a junior, and then as a

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 1>senior they just to get him on the field, they

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>moved into receiver. It's weird to watch a two hundred

0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and sixty five pound man receiver. Yeah, and so he

0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>would play side, he'd played outside. So he's a guy

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that you don't know kind of where to play him

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't really have that experience in line. I mean,

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 1>has that size. He's six five and a half two

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty five pounds tested. Okay, four seventy four,

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and the forty yard that