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Speaker 1: I need to get into this thing real quick, guys.

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Speaker 1: I need to get into Scott. I always always run

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Speaker 1: This is Brian brought a special here, boys, This is

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Speaker 1: I want to know the best combinations, best combinations, best

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Speaker 1: possibility of like the first three picks. This is great

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Speaker 1: I just know, Dank. Wait, come some stuff. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you some combinations out there, guys, and everybody kind

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Speaker 1: start with this combination of Ridley Jewel Bates. Okay, got

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Speaker 1: How about this one? How about more DJ Moore Shepherd

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Speaker 1: next one, Vanderish Harrison Saint Brown maybe a little, maybe

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Speaker 1: He's one of the few in that same vein Ridley

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Speaker 1: But is there one you hate more? Well, let me

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Speaker 1: don't know that Ronnie Harrison lasts to fifty and I

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Speaker 1: put plug Jefferson in there. What does that do to you? Then?

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Speaker 1: If I said, it's a lot more Hernandez Gallop Jefferson,

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Speaker 1: we started late. Whatever, Dane, Anthony points out, you said

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Speaker 1: on the last show that you had a first round

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Speaker 1: grade onto Marcus Lawrence. He fell to thirty four cowboys

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Speaker 1: traded up and got him. Can you give us an

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Speaker 1: idea of some guys who you think that might happen

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Speaker 1: with this year? First round ish guys who fall into

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Speaker 1: the second round happens every single year. It does happen

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Speaker 1: every year. This year, we just don't have as many

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Speaker 1: first round guys, so I think it's tougher to see

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Speaker 1: one of them. You know, last year we had what

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Speaker 1: Kevin King fall into the second, Dalvin Cook, which obviously

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Speaker 1: this team wasn't interested in Dalvin Cook. You know at

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Speaker 1: durn Payne maybe, Yeah, durn Payne would be a guy

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Speaker 1: that I would I would surely. Look. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a great name. He's more of a one two, but

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Speaker 1: a guy that could slip out of the top thirty

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Speaker 1: two and you know, be available in the second. He's

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Speaker 1: one of those guys used in the first. Hughes is

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Speaker 1: another one in Oliver. I think Isaiah Oliver too. It

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Speaker 1: should be in that conversation. Josh Jackson too, Josh Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as great as the production was at Iowa

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Speaker 1: this past year, still a lot of questions. Can you

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Speaker 1: hold up a man coverage? Is he you know, gonna

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Speaker 1: learn how to tackle? All right, let's twist it around

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Speaker 1: real quick, because Ari wants to know who's a guy

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Speaker 1: who fits that category, who you would move up for.

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Speaker 1: Kind of touched on that with the receivers and going defense.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be a name. Yeah, I'm going James

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Speaker 1: or Smith. I'm scared to hear. So no, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: se sorry from second Marcus Lawrence. Oh, I think Dave's

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Speaker 1: right the wide receiver connection. Yeah, because with that, regardless

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Speaker 1: of whoever goes first, and you know, we'll just say

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Speaker 1: Ridley and morgo exact twenty top twenty five, we're you know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see Chark, We're gonna see Sutton, We're going

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Speaker 1: to see these receivers come off the board at some

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Speaker 1: point early second. So yeah, I think that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Daniel's first round player for you? Yeah? Easy, okay.

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Speaker 1: So I was thinking about it. He might be the

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Speaker 1: best center prospects. It's Alex Mack okay, like he's I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to think. Oh, I like it what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player. I watched a guard from Iowa

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Speaker 1: yesterday Welsh, Welsh, and every time Daniels is saving his rear. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly what I mean. It's just it's incredible. But so

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Speaker 1: you mean he's there's no way he gets this top

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Speaker 1: of the second round. No, I don't think. So, okay,

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Speaker 1: what could I convince you to do it? For a safety?

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like we talked about Ronnie Harrison. Yeah, maybe Bates,

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Speaker 1: I say, Bates or read Have they shown any of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have they looked at They have not? I say I

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Speaker 1: didn't he workouts or not a top thirty. No, he

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Speaker 1: went to top thirty. I mean they went that direction,

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Speaker 1: it'd be a total you know, yeah, covert operation there

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Speaker 1: would be. I think again, how about that one of

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Speaker 1: those defensive ends like uh Eca four, you know somebody

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Speaker 1: them enough to go and get it. I'm just throwing

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Speaker 1: a name it wars ard Key gonna be in this thing.

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Speaker 1: Good point. See that's obsane. It's not ardon Key trading

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Speaker 1: up for arden Key. You might be getting an eighty one. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying though, maybe something they're gonna bring this

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Speaker 1: gonna they're doing their homework on him, and he's the

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Speaker 1: type of guy you need to do your homework on obviously,

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Speaker 1: figure out what's what makes him tick. Okay, again, the

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Speaker 1: tight ends tight. I'm okay, drafted a tight end, just

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Speaker 1: not in the first two round. But you wouldn't trade

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Speaker 1: it for a time. No, I'm not trading. I'm just

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Speaker 1: tight end again, what about will Hernandez if he falls? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I like that, I do like that. Would you give

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Speaker 1: up eighty one to get her Nandez at thirty nine?

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Speaker 1: Forty mm hmmm, I would. I'm thinking, who do we

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Speaker 1: get in the first take a receiver and whatever. You

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Speaker 1: almost have to take defense if you're gonna find back guard,

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Speaker 1: like take Evans Vanders at nineteen and then Hernandez. So

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Speaker 1: let's go. I can live with that. Let's go. Austin

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Speaker 1: wants to know, well, we lose our safety though at

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Speaker 1: eighty one? Yeah? More? Okay, sorry, go ahead. S happens

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Speaker 1: in the draft. You know a lot of two first

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Speaker 1: round players though, Yeah, s happens a lot of times

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Speaker 1: in the draft. Two parter. Austin wants to know, do

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Speaker 1: you buy the Josh Allen that one smoke? And he

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Speaker 1: also wants to know, guy we're not which I know.

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Speaker 1: I know what his grade is because I have the beast.

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Speaker 1: But you can't follow grades with quarterbacks, right, any chance

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph gets up there into before the Cowboys pick,

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Speaker 1: maybe pushes a guy down the board. You can't rule

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Speaker 1: anything out, but Mason Rudolph in the top in the

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Speaker 1: first round is craziness to me, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: it's craziness to you, but it won't be crazy. Were

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Speaker 1: comparing him to Ben Roethlisberger, who Mason Rudolph No, sighing,

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Speaker 1: Who's compared size, size, physical ability, farm Stream. I could

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Speaker 1: that size. Wow, I mean, I don't understand the parallel. Well,

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Speaker 1: your hate for Mason Rudolph is impressive. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: not sports hate. By the way, for sports it's always sports,

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Speaker 1: always sports hate. It's just he's what do you see

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Speaker 1: on film that suggests that he's going to be this,

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Speaker 1: you know, big time NFL start, and that you better

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Speaker 1: think he's a big time NFL start if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: take him top twenty. He launches a lot of those

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Speaker 1: balls down the field that will say and those guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless Mike Gundy's coming with him and bringing

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Speaker 1: that Oklahoma State scheme, very simplistic, very quarterback friendly, where

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Speaker 1: you know you don't have to readcoverage. His consistent basis

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Speaker 1: you meant you have one read usually pre snap, and

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Speaker 1: you're throwing that making that throw so and I mean

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State they have you know, we ding James Washington

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Speaker 1: week Marcel Eatman, Sure running four routes? Sure, okay, well

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Speaker 1: that part of that, we ding Mason Rudolph. We're only

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Speaker 1: having to throw to four routes. You know, you do

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that it's possible. I do, because well, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's possible Top twenty like, if he's not

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Speaker 1: going to the late first to a team like that

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Speaker 1: sounds more plausive spurger, you know, twenty seven. I mean

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Speaker 1: in the Saints, people talk about the sides wanting a

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, it's it goes a little

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Speaker 1: bit against the gray what we usually like Quack we

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Speaker 1: usually think of the quarterbacks. Yeah, but I think someone's

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Speaker 1: gonna fall in love with ok yeah, I think, uh, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: how about Alan or one? Oh yeah, oh yeah, we

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Speaker 1: didn't touch on that. Please please say no no. I

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Speaker 1: think it's yeah, it's possible. I don't think John Dorsey

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Speaker 1: a hundred percent knows who they're taking yet. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think he probably feels really good about where they're leaning.

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Speaker 1: But Josh Allen is in Brea today at the Brown's facility,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he's making his case for why he

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Speaker 1: should be the number one pick. Look, you can't rule

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Speaker 1: it out. So many people want to pigeonhole John Dorsey

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Speaker 1: into he wants this type of quarterback. Why why are

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Speaker 1: we doing this? Like he's He's made two quarterback moves,

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Speaker 1: significant quarterback moves in his tenure as a general manager.

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Speaker 1: He traded for Alex Smith and he drafted Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Those are two different quarterbacks. So, I mean, I've said

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Speaker 1: this to you before though, like I'm reluctant to say

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Speaker 1: that Mahomes is a successful pick yet, Like I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. In the skill set, like the

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Speaker 1: type of quarterback you're looking at, okay, uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: two different styles of quarterback and so and I don't

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Speaker 1: think we can paint a picture of exactly what John

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Speaker 1: Dorsey looks like. Do you want a big arm? I

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Speaker 1: think every general manager evaluator wants a big arm, But overall,

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Speaker 1: you want a guy that's gonna win. You want to

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Speaker 1: get it's accurate, and that's why I still think the

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Speaker 1: going on that Josh Allen is the guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just remind you, guys. Something Danny at Lang had better

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Speaker 1: knowledge stats than Josh Allen. Let me. Let me remind

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Speaker 1: you guys, is something the Browns play in a division

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Speaker 1: that is completely outdoors. Yeah, they play in cold weather

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Speaker 1: cities late in the year, John Dorsey, for my years

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, we learned this, you better have a guy.

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Speaker 1: And we in the problem with as we drafted Terrell Buckley,

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Speaker 1: who was a corner from Florida State instead of taking

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Speaker 1: Troy Vincent from Wisconsin. Okay, now apply this to quarterbacks. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you live in cold weather, if you play in

631
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Speaker 1: cold weather, you understand cold weather. There's something too that

632
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: it's it's it's part of the path. Okay, you're shaking

633
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: your head. But it was something that we talked about.

634
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: Harvest from Southern just about to say but but that's

635
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, though far hate but he adapted because

636
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: of because of body type and hand size, and he

637
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: had the talent. Yeah, let's not let's not act like.

638
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: Let's in my mind, I was just about to see

639
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: La Manning. Well, let's not know, but let's not act like.

640
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Let's not act like. I don't buy it that shouldn't

641
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: be a reason any of the three prototypical Maybe not

642
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfiel. Baker Mayfield would not fit well in Cleveland

643
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: in my opinion, any him with his body tapes. Sam

644
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Darnold was terrible at his pro day in the rain.

645
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: I might give more credence to that. But it's different

646
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: being a cold weather quarterback. I'm just telling you that, right,

647
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: it is. But I think if you've got the talent

648
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Speaker 1: to go top five, you can adapt. That's my point.

649
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: But just because Josh Allen played in cold weather doesn't

650
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: mean he was good. No, no, no, no no. I'm

651
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: just saying though, when you look at these quarterbacks, he

652
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Speaker 1: is the one. He is the one that played in

653
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: and and, but he wasn't good in cold weather. I

654
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: think that's a silly reason to draft him over somebody else. No,

655
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: it's it's not a silly reason, but when it's part

656
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: of what you think, think about when you're drafting these quarterbacks. Seriously, No,

657
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: I think they're That conversation does play a part in this,

658
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: I agree, But that is I think people can say,

659
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, I get it to me if you have,

660
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: but you have to have the body type. If you

661
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: have arm strength to hand I mean, but have to

662
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: have don't you think darnold he's got talent. Let's you

663
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: have these two quarterbacks neck and neck like you can't decide.

664
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Speaker 1: I don't know which one's better, which one's better? Maybe

665
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: I'll use that as Okay, you know what, this guy

666
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: has done it in cold weather. You know I would

667
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: maybe that would give the edge, But you would have

668
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: to me, you would have to have those quarterbacks completely

669
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Speaker 1: even to use that as a reason draft one over

670
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Speaker 1: the other. If I Tom Brady had success, sure Michigan,

671
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: he's well, he's also as well. He's mentally tough. You know,

672
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers played his college ball on the

673
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: West Coast. How about that? Yeah? Again badass another but

674
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: then but then again, body type, hand size things. I mean.

675
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: And and by the way, twenty three other teams passed

676
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: on that to get him. And I'm just saying, and

677
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson tried to pass on it too. I'm just saying.

678
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: It's just something you think about. Is it the overlying

679
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: factor or no? But I'm just telling you Dorsey comes

680
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: from a program. I was part of that program. This

681
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: is something you think about. I'm not saying that you're

682
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: wrong that they think about it. I just hope that's

683
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: not the reason that they pick him. It's not going

684
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: to be the overlying of the over lying. Would you

685
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: draft would you draft a lesser quarterback for that reason?

686
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: I think you have to. I think you have to

687
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: consider though about if a quarterback cast functionality in cold conditions.

688
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: I think you have to consider that. Would you drafted

689
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: lesser quarterback because of that reason? Though? If you have

690
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: Sam if you think Sam Donald's the best quarterback in

691
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: his draft and Josh Allen's number two, would you, if

692
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: you're general manager, the clear if they were, if they were,

693
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: if they if they were even and no, no, I'm saying,

694
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: if you thought Sam Donald was the best quarterback in

695
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: this draft, yeah, Josh alllying number two? Yeah, clearly one

696
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 1: above the other. I think it was something I would

697
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: surely think about. Yes, I would surely think about. I

698
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: can't go there with you give me the better quarterback. Um,

699
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: all right, we kind of got off our We got

700
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: off our rapid fire. We always do. It's fine, John,

701
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: which this is Dane mentioned this in the first segment.

702
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: John said, given the need at safety, we would all

703
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: agree it's a pretty big need on this team. Are

704
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: you surprised by what appears to be somewhat of a

705
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: lack of interest. I mean, they brought in the Southern

706
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: miss kid, they brought in the ULLL kid, but Walker, Yeah,

707
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: talking mid round prospects though, I mean, like what it does,

708
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: and Terrell Edmunds is another one. But it doesn't seem

709
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: like they're doing for instance, they're turning over every stone

710
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, and I agree with the question that

711
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like they're doing that at safety. To me,

712
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: it's not a great safety group. I mean, there's free

713
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: safety group. Try to draft Harrison earlier, yeah, we did,

714
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: but strong anyway, we have any reason to suspect that

715
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: they're interested in him, because I mean I don't see

716
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: the crystal clear indication that that's the case like I

717
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: do with well, name a receiver. You know, I think

718
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: it's just more of a case. You know, how many

719
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: guards is this team brought in? Maybe maybe they know something,

720
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: Maybe they know something we don't. At fifty they're gonna

721
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: move that thing to John Snyder. Oh oh yeah, I

722
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: thought you meant trade up. But yeah, there's always that too. Yeah,

723
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: that's I think that maybe they're saying, Okay, let's look

724
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: at the down the line safety guys and as a

725
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: as an ace and a whole kind of thing. Maybe

726
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna move fifty. I know nothing, I'm just saying that.

727
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: I also think I think they feel really really good

728
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: about Xavier Woods. They do, so they do. They do

729
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: feel good about Xavier Woods. Okay, And it's just it's

730
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: not a great free safety group. You know, after Derwin

731
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: James to me, I'm not drafting another safety in the

732
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: top twenty, and then you know Bates and Justin Reid, Okay,

733
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: solid players. This team just might not like him. Great segue,

734
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: because ajor our old buddy Golden, our old buddy laugh.

735
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm not laughing. It's not about he's gonna be a

736
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: really good player. It's not about the right It's not

737
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: about the player anyway. Um, our old senior Bowl buddy,

738
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: Trayvon Henderson from Hawaii Combine snub free safety. Can he

739
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: does he fit that? What do you think of him

740
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: as a player? I would play him down. Yeah, he's

741
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: he's more of that that type of safety. Um Honestly,

742
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: he's a little bit of both. Because there are times

743
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: when you see him, he'll miss him tackles, you know,

744
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: and but there are other times where he plays does

745
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: a nice job in coverage. You know, he's he's kind

746
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: of like our money Watts because a sometimes player and

747
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes he looks great and because coverage sometimes

748
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Sometimes he looks great against the runs, sometimes

749
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't. I know that probably describes a lot of safeties.

750
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: But Trayvon Henderson I think is similar in that respect.

751
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Kaiser White strong West. Yeah, he's a strong I know

752
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: there are specifically I know three teams that think he's

753
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: a linebacker on the draft board, so I I think

754
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: he's more that I think this team might be one

755
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: of those teams too. Yeah. Yeah, how much does he weigh?

756
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: Dane Quick two twenty something? Oh wow? Okay, yeah, I

757
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: mean he's Dion Jones. He was two eighteen Yeah at

758
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: the combine, So bring it on. Okay, good question from

759
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: our friend of the show, Jonah. Yeah. Most likely guy

760
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: to be picked who did not visit here, if that

761
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: makes sense, A guy they didn't bring him in, which

762
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: we all know that that's a big Ooh, that's that's him.

763
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: Or Derwin James. I was thinking more back of the line,

764
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: guys like maybe a second round pick that they didn't

765
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: bring in, or you could even cheat about Mica Fitzpatrick,

766
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: m another good name. I like all of this way

767
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: more than what I was gonna say, which I was

768
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: going to point out technically, I mean Courtland, Sutton, Will

769
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: hernandez Uh. Some of those guys aren't visits, but they're

770
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: guys that the team is intomateure familiar with Sue reason

771
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: or another. But I like y'all's answers a lot better.

772
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: If Mika Fitzpatrick slides to maybe thirteen, that's exactly where

773
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: I in my mock draft should be up in the

774
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: next few days, hopefully today that's reached out. That's six spots.

775
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: That's where I have him going thirteen the Redskins. Remember

776
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: what happened last year with the Redskins. Oh yeah, they

777
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: took Alan, a pretty good Alabama defensive player who we

778
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: thought was a top pick. Yeah. Could happen again this

779
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: year with a pretty good Alabama defensive player, which thinks

780
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 1: the top pick fall to them in the teens. Why

781
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: is he gonna fall because Alan had the shoulders? Yeah?

782
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: What's many people are overthinking it, you know, trying to

783
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: say he's only a nickel corner and they don't have

784
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: an idea where to play. Yeah, I think they're I'll

785
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: take him right now, absolutely, and I figure it out.

786
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: So I think he's I don't think you like the

787
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: whole Roquan Smith. He I don't know. People aren't talking

788
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: about him enough. He's one of the top. You don't

789
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: think five six players in this draft. I don't know

790
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: a single reputable publication that think he goes any later

791
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: than like ten, maybe eleven. Yeah, but I'm talking about, like,

792
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: why aren't we talking about him at six and the Colts?

793
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: Why aren't we talking about like I'm saying, like he's

794
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: one of the top. I guess the quarterbacks going early.

795
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's pushing good players down. So also, maybe

796
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: who's the three of the three guys of the other quarterbacks,

797
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: the other guys other than quarterbacks? Who are the three guys?

798
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: Is it the guard Nelson? It's Barkley, Barkley Smith. I mean,

799
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: how do you where do you have Smith in that?

800
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: And the and the and the guys other than the quarterbacks? Yeah?

801
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's good. That's gonna tell you. He's

802
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: probably the one that people He's not for everybody. I'm

803
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: sure because it's crazy. You know who wasn't for everybody?

804
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: Derek Brooks? Yeah, how you know when how could Roquan

805
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: Smith not be for everybody? Yeah? But size? When When

806
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: John said, did you say idiot undersize? Underside linebackers are

807
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: dominating in the league? Right now? When looks at uh

808
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Quan Smith, Derek Brooks, sirens are going to go off

809
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: in his head. Yeah, and that's why I don't think

810
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: he gets past ten. I think ten's kind of us floor.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dave, I'm sorry, bums out there, No, you

812
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: could get better there. We can trade up to nine.

813
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: San Francisco, we did a lot better. Do we have

814
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: any more time? Although San Francisco? One more question? One

815
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: more question I got, and then I gotta hit it.

816
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Um all right, we don't have a lot of time.

817
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: John said, three of your favorite prospects who you don't

818
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys will draft. Let's just limit it to

819
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: one for sake of time. But just a guy, and

820
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't mean like Derwin Award from Ohio State. Yeah,

821
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: my guy that'd be up there. Um are I said

822
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: this earlier. I'd probably say Vita Veia, which I know

823
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: they brought him in, but I don't really believe that

824
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: they'll draft him. But ward wards money. All right, guys,

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00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: thanks to everybody out there and Twitter. On the twenty.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll try and do a little

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Speaker 1: tell me more. Stay tuned. Cowboys fans know that the

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Speaker 1: you guys hanging out with us. It's always fun to

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Speaker 1: see the comments. I go back and watch and kind

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Speaker 1: of look at the comments and stuff like that. So

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Speaker 1: we do appreciate that. David Hellman tell me more, I

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Speaker 1: can do that. And I'm gonna start off with a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys. I've been getting a lot of a

881
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: lot of requests about so I'm gonna start it off

882
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: trying to find me an edge rusher without you know,

883
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Harold Landry's not there left. Sure tell me more about

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00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: Arkansas States Javon Roland Jones. It's a good name guy

885
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: who led or almost at the FBS record, almost broke

886
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: turrell sugs curacy of three and a half. He's a

887
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a tweener. He doesn't have ideal size,

888
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: ideal length, and he didn't tested her who will No,

889
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: I was very surprised by that. Yeah, the combined numbers

890
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: weren't good, and then the pro days numbers were even worse.

891
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Um to me, he's more of a late round, sub

892
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: package rusher. Who you know. He's gonna maybe give you

893
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of juice off the bench, but I

894
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: just don't think it's enough tools to give you consistent

895
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: snaps and consistent pressure. Well, I tell you what, you

896
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: got him right. The thing about him interesting and you

897
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: compare him to he almost broke Suggs record. Remember how

898
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: bad Suggs was on his pro day? Yeah, like day,

899
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: couldn't get him to run a fast forty. Yeah, he

900
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: just kept struggling with that and all that. Yeah, this,

901
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think Dane's got this guy right.

902
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: I think edge rush or subplayer. That's really kind of woody,

903
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: and he struggles versus the run. There's some strength issues there,

904
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 1: so he just he's not going to be out there

905
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: on every down and right, he's gonna struggle to make

906
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: a roster probably. I mean the college production is great,

907
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to really make some moves and

908
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: he might not get drafted. He's a late round PFA

909
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: to call him up. What about another name I've I've

910
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: seen in my mentions on no short number of occasions.

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00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Tell me more about Middle Tennessee State corner char char

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Speaker 1: verys Ward another combine snub. Who know how you love

913
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: those combines? Yeah? I do. Ward is in my seven

914
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: round mock draft. He didn't make the cut. Use why

915
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: because teams like tall, long, sure corners with speed and

916
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: that's what he is. Um. You watch him on tape.

917
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: He plays a little press, plays a little off. You know.

918
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: The footwork is uh doesn't have the discipline that you

919
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: want in terms of the pedal h exploding out of

920
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: his brakes, and that's where receivers can create some separation.

921
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: But it's the raw traits. It's when you have that height,

922
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: you have that length, you have that speed, and the

923
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: coaches say he's a smart guy, a really bright individual,

924
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: so that certainly will help him as well. He's he's

925
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: a type of you know, no other position is drafted

926
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Speaker 1: more on the stop Watch than corner, and so he's

927
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: the type of corner that gets drafted six seventh round.

928
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: You take a shot on guys like that. Yeah, when

929
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: you talk about the tall, rangy guys that are late,

930
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: where do you have yet him? I have him high.

931
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Speaker 1: I like you a lot. Okay, then I know both

932
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: sold me on him. Yeah, I have him a little

933
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: bit lower. He's the Boston college kid. Yeah, it's like

934
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Speaker 1: it's like at six one ninety pounds, but he's four

935
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 1: or five four kind of guy. But I thought about

936
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: the same thing. You know, guy that plays press got

937
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: it's long guy that you know kind of gets. So

938
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Speaker 1: you've got him a little bit higher. Where do you

939
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: have him in your relationship? I'm sorry to take this nude.

940
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about long rangeing. Okay, okay, So third round

941
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Speaker 1: that that's a that's a little bit higher than what

942
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: I would have him there. I kind of thought it

943
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Speaker 1: was more of a I thought more of him was

944
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: a third day guy. But you're right. I mean I

945
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: was trying to compare, okay, of the tall guys that

946
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: play press, you know that teams like he's he's probably

947
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: a little bit better than where I have him on

948
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: the board. How how tall is this kid? Ward? Ward? Uh,

949
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 1: just just a hare hundred sixty one, Yeah, two hundred pounds.

950
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: He ran a four four four at the Pro Day,

951
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: jumped really well, thirty seven and a half in verse

952
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: eleven foot broad. It doesn't it doesn't make sense to

953
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: use a huge pick on a cornerback given what they

954
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: did last year. But I just feel like they're gonna

955
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: give Chris Richard a day three dB to work with.

956
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: I know they need a safety, but even a cornerback.

957
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they have ten picks. Let him take a

958
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: chance on a guy whose body type he likes or whatever.

959
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: One thing that worries me with Corners is when they

960
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: have bad three cone time. Yeah. You know in corners

961
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: you have learned that transition, you know, hip turn all

962
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: that and tre various wards three cone time with seven

963
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: five two, which is either he didn't know how to

964
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: do it or he's just not very good. There is

965
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of stiffness too. Yeah, you know, and

966
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: that will tell you that's that's that's a that's a

967
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: red flag right there. For sure. I saw Brian watching

968
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: this guy the other day and it piqued my interest.

969
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: Tell me more about Mississippi State tight end Jordan Thomas.

970
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: It's too Jordan Thomas is in this draft. Oklahoma corner

971
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: and the tight end Thomas is fact that he just

972
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: had that ready to go. He's just like, yeah, there's

973
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: two of them. Okay. Uh, he's gonna say it when

974
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: it happens in the draft. Yeah, when we're on that

975
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: one night, he's gonna ask which one Thomas. It really

976
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: wasn't on the radar coming end of the year. He

977
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: had nine catches as a junior, and then as a

978
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: senior they just to get him on the field, they

979
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: moved into receiver. It's weird to watch a two hundred

980
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: and sixty five pound man receiver. Yeah, and so he

981
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: would play side, he'd played outside. So he's a guy

982
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: that you don't know kind of where to play him

983
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: because he doesn't really have that experience in line. I mean,

984
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: has that size. He's six five and a half two

985
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five pounds tested. Okay, four seventy four,

986
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: and the forty yard that