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Speaker 1: Hike, everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading the

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Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast. You're the one Want edition as my

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Speaker 1: broadcast partner Dave Lapham joins me to preview this week's

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Speaker 1: NFL draft coming up. You will not only get our

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Speaker 1: predictions for who the Bengals will select in the first

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Speaker 1: round with the eleventh overall pick, but this year we

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Speaker 1: will take a staff at predicting the Bengals first three picks.

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss the quarterback position and how early we think

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Speaker 1: the Bengals will draft one, and we will give our

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Speaker 1: dream scenarios, which in both of our cases involves the

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Speaker 1: Bengals trading their first round selection. Do we want them

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Speaker 1: to move up or move down? Stay tuned to find

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Speaker 1: out All of that is straight ahead. But first, here's

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Speaker 1: a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition

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Speaker 1: was lost by Tiger Woods. Unfortunately for you, it's a

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Speaker 1: different Sam's dad. Let's get to the draft. Dave Lapham

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Speaker 1: has a remarkable record for predicting who the Bengals will

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Speaker 1: take with their number one pick. The first four years

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Speaker 1: we did this, Lap nailed Kevin Zeidler, Tyler Eifert, Darques Denard,

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Speaker 1: and Cedrico Boihe. In twenty sixteen, he predicted wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Will Fuller laps no Stradamis like streak ended when Fuller

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Speaker 1: was taken three picks before the Bengals were on the clock,

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Speaker 1: and they wound up choosing Will Jackson. The following year,

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Speaker 1: lap was right again, going with John Ross at number nine. Overall.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he predicted that the Bengals would go with

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Speaker 1: a center in the first round, and his personal preference

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Speaker 1: was Frank Ragnow. Out of the trio of Ragnow, Billy

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Speaker 1: took Ragnow one spot before Cincinnati and the Bengals wound

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Speaker 1: up choosing price for what it's worth. That was my prediction.

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Speaker 1: Now time for a deep dive into what we think

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are likely to do beginning on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Lap I want to start with the guys that we

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Speaker 1: think there's no chance on God's green Earth that are

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Speaker 1: assume they're not going to trade way up in the draft.

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Speaker 1: They've almost never done that in their history. So in

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Speaker 1: my mind, Quinnin Williams, Joe Ebosa, Josh Allen, and Kyler

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Speaker 1: no chance in the world they'll be there. What do

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Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, I agree with that, Dan. I mean

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Speaker 1: top ten, there should be seven or eight defensive linemen

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are valued so much higher. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: one A grade on any quarterback personally, just big holes

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Speaker 1: thirty two teams, so if there are thirty three, the

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Speaker 1: But you know, they're undersized. And look what the New

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Speaker 1: to Devin White. They beat him up, man, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's I watched solely that tape. He got knocked around.

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Speaker 1: He missed tackles. You know, I'm thinking top five pick.

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Speaker 1: I think Bush is a more sure tackler than White is.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, Man, going to that next level

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Speaker 1: condition that a lot of some teams that I've talked

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Speaker 1: his his mechanics are inconsistent sometimes, But man, he's got

424
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Speaker 1: a gun. You know, if I'm his agent, I'm gonna

425
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Speaker 1: tell him to fifty touchdown passes. What if he only

426
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Speaker 1: has thirty five next year? I mean, does his value

427
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Speaker 1: go down? Or to fans who would be like, oh, man,

428
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: he was he was not even close to as good

429
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Speaker 1: as he was his junior year or the year before

430
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: and um, but you know, to football people, they'll look

431
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: at tape or his mechanics better, was he more decisive

432
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: with his decision making and all those kind of things.

433
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 1: A lot of teams around the league think that he

434
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Speaker 1: could have used one more year, so one year starter,

435
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: which is a knock typically if you look at past

436
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: quarterback success going from college to the NFL, the more

437
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: games you start the better. Secondly, a lot of people

438
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: seem to take the feet are not very good. Yeah,

439
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: I think I think that's the that's the thing you

440
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: know they think. Um, you know, mobility is a little

441
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: bit of a question mark. I know, is more mobile

442
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady was coming out of Michigan. I know

443
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: that for sure. And that Michigan game is puzzling because

444
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: you know, they were the best defense in football. But

445
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: o'house day players were wide open. When you look at

446
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: that tape, you know, I'm not saying every Tom, Dick

447
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: and Harry could make the throws, but man, he didn't

448
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: get challenged with having to make a lot of tight

449
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 1: window throws. And I think a lot of a lot

450
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: of NFL people are like all right with the scheme

451
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: of offense that they ran. Man, he had a lot

452
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Speaker 1: of wide open areas to throw the football. Can he

453
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Speaker 1: make it? That's why during his pro day everybody was

454
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Speaker 1: making a big deal out of it. He was putting

455
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Speaker 1: that like on a back shoulder type spot, even though

456
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Speaker 1: it was against air. He was trying to show people

457
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Speaker 1: I can hit places. Instead of being what I'm into

458
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Speaker 1: a wide open I'm not using gonna throw it to

459
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Speaker 1: him right in front him where it's needs. I'm gonna,

460
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, pretend there's tight courage, back shoulder, you know,

461
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: make him throw throw it where only he can make

462
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: a play on the football. And he did that a

463
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Speaker 1: lot in his pro day. I noticed I was watching that.

464
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: I thought, well, that that's smart. That's smart to handle

465
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Speaker 1: it that way. I think, obviously, you know he's going

466
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Speaker 1: to be a first round guy. It's just a question

467
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Speaker 1: of where and when. But I don't think it's I

468
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Speaker 1: don't think the Cincinnati Bengals are gonna make that pick. No,

469
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Speaker 1: all right, let's get to it. With the eleventh pick

470
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Speaker 1: in the twenty nineteen NFL Draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select,

471
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Dillard because I think Williams isn't there.

472
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Speaker 1: But if Williams is there, Williams, but one of those

473
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Speaker 1: two guys, I would go with that, uh, you know,

474
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Speaker 1: with that offensive lineman. I think if Gary is there,

475
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson's the guy I'm thinking of from trying to

476
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Speaker 1: think of from Clemson. He came out with Buffalo first

477
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Speaker 1: round edge rusher, and he had that shoulder issue. If

478
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Speaker 1: Shack loss If or Shaw Garry has a has a

479
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: shoulder issue like Shack Lawson. You know. Now now you're

480
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: looking at these subluxes that bad boys, looking at surgery

481
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: in a six months rehab um. So I mean the

482
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: thing about him, though, like we talked about great athletic talent,

483
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: just plays at a good level. When you have great talent,

484
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: you got to play better than a good level. And

485
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: you know that's that's this thing. And then sweat, you know,

486
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: sweat being there again, coaches on the staff can speak

487
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: to these and I don't know, I don't know where

488
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: they have them on the board. You know, we always

489
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: talk about the group guys. They'll have you know, one

490
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: through four, But on the big board one to ten,

491
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Speaker 1: one to twenty five, one to fifty. Do they have

492
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Speaker 1: the top two tackles on their board ahead of the

493
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Speaker 1: three and four edge rush guys. I don't know, but

494
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, I guess we'll probably find out. Um,

495
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: where do those linebackers been in on the big board?

496
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Speaker 1: You know, they're the top two linebackers obviously, where are

497
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Speaker 1: they on the big board? Though? Um, just knowing how

498
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Mike Brown thinks, I could see him going offensive tackle

499
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: there and if if you and he the reason I'm

500
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: thinking Dillard Jonah Williams played left tackle, but Man Farrell

501
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: from Clemson gave him a hard way to go in

502
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: that bowl game. Looking at that tape, Jonah Williams didn't

503
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Speaker 1: have his best day and Farrell Farrell's one. See, guy

504
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Speaker 1: Farrell is the first round guy. He's he's not a

505
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Speaker 1: guy at eleven. You know, I don't think but I'm

506
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: not saying that. You know, he's chopped liver. He's a

507
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: good football player. But I think the safest left tackle

508
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: in my eyes watching is Dillard. That's why I think

509
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Speaker 1: they do that because you can always you can always

510
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Speaker 1: go to other spots from left tackle. It's hardest to

511
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Speaker 1: go to that left tackle spot because in the NFL

512
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: is changing a little bit. It used to be it

513
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: was automatic. The best pass rusher was the right defensive end.

514
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: Now in these sub packages they have, you know, rushers

515
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Speaker 1: everywhere that are are a factor. You have to have

516
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Speaker 1: pass protectors everywhere, and that's what okay, And you say,

517
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: all right, well what do you do with Cordy him

518
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: into guard? So you're not thinking Dillard starts at right

519
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: tackle to begin his career and then eventually bounces to

520
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: left when Cordy Glenn has done, You're thinking he's right

521
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: in there at left tackle. I think if he shows

522
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: himself in training camp to be the left best left tackle,

523
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: I'd play him at left tackle. And Bobby Hart shows that,

524
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, he should be playing right tackle, play right tackle.

525
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: If Cordy plays left tackle well and he's healthy and

526
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, engaged, yeah, and then it's a battle Bobby Hart,

527
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: and it's a battle those three tackles. The best guys

528
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: of those three tackles start and then if you if

529
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: you have to shuffle h Cordy goes inside plays some guard.

530
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: You got Miller and Cordy, two former Bills. You got

531
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Speaker 1: a buffalo tandem at guard. In college, Bowling was the

532
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Speaker 1: left tackle. Cordy Glenn was the left guard at Georgia.

533
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Speaker 1: So you know, he, uh, you can. You can do

534
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: that easier. It's hard. It's easier to go tackle to

535
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Speaker 1: guard um. But the thing, you know, the reason I

536
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: like Jonah Williams is, honestly, I think he'd be a

537
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guard potentially, even a Pro Bowl center potentially.

538
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: I think he played right tackle easier than left tackle,

539
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: but he can play left tackle. But in my eyes, athletically,

540
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: body type wise, watching him go, I think I think

541
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Speaker 1: Dillard Dillard being the guy he's he's he's bigger, faster,

542
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: you know, athletically, his numbers are are crazy. Again, you

543
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: know the nightmare I had a little bit, Am I

544
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: looking at? What am I looking at? I've seen this

545
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: playout and it didn't play out well, and it wouldn't

546
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: shock me if if the Bengals, it wouldn't shock me

547
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: if they go tackle in the first dance, second round,

548
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: that would shock me. Well, the reason it wouldn't shock

549
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: me if Howard's there from Alabama State in the second round,

550
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: because I think TuS Howard, Titus Howard. He is a

551
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: He's a first round talent. He started as a quarterback.

552
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: He was a quarterback at Alabama State, like Lane Johnson

553
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Eagles when I was doing Oklahoma games.

554
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: He came to Oklahoma as a quarterback. Now he's, you know,

555
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: quarterback and moving the tight end. Beef him up now tackle,

556
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl tackle. Howard's three hundred and twenty five pounds,

557
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: long arms, three time captain, He's kind of the face

558
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: of the program down there. The dude can play. He

559
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: can play. If Greg Little's there at the Bengal spot

560
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: in the second round, you got to think about the guy.

561
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: You know, and we've talked about how it didn't work

562
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: out with Cedric boy he uh and Jake Fisher, but

563
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: it has worked out at other positions where you know

564
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: you double down to make sure you get at least one,

565
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: and you know there's a there's a ton of a

566
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: ton of instances of it. You look at Mohammed Sanu

567
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: uh and Jones that you know that that worked out

568
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: where both guys are still playing. I mean I go

569
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: back to uh, David Versor and Chris Collinsworth. Chris Collinsworn

570
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: in the second round. You know it's like, okay, well

571
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: we think versus a guy, but boy Collinsworth's right there

572
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: with him, He's there in the second round. Oh my gosh,

573
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: we gotta take him. I turned out, I've turned out

574
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: pretty well. I mean, there's been a lot of cases

575
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: when they doubled down, more cases of it working with

576
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: the football team than not. But tragically it didn't work

577
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: out of tackle for him last time. Spikes and Simmons.

578
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: Spikes and Simmons another good one. Two first round guys

579
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Speaker 1: that you know that that's got it done. I mean

580
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: C J. Zama and Tyler Croft. You know they're both

581
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: both signed long contracts five six million bucks a year,

582
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, and their contract extensions. So you know, you

583
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Speaker 1: get you get that one, that one working out. It's

584
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: it wouldn't it wouldn't. It wouldn't stun me. It would

585
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: surprise me, but it wouldn't stun me if they did that.

586
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: So for what it's worth, I think you will be

587
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: right if White and Bush are gone. If Bush is

588
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: there at number eleven, I think that's what the Bengals

589
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: will do, So I will make him my pick in

590
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: the first round. And here's my thinking. You've only got

591
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Speaker 1: two first round linebackers in this draft, and then in

592
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: some you know, experts whatever mock drafts, the next linebacker

593
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: doesn't come up until the third round. So I think

594
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: there's a big drop off between the two guys at

595
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: the top and then the next wave. It was the

596
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: biggest weakness on one of the worst defenses in NFL history.

597
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: I think historically the Bengals would not look at an

598
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: undersized linebacker that high in the draft. But the game

599
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: is changing. You've got your nickel and dime defense on

600
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: the field about three quarters of the time. Now they

601
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: need a sideline to sideline speed guy in the run

602
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: game and in the passing game. And the last time

603
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: this defense was good was when the will linebacker was good,

604
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: back when Vontes was healthy and engaged and not suspended whatever.

605
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: So to me, if Devin Bush is there universally graded

606
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: as a first round guy, I know you don't like

607
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: the size, I get it, but I still think that's

608
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: the guy they'll take a number eleven. I think it

609
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: very well could be. I mean, he's going to be

610
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: talked about. And again, like we said, if White is there,

611
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: he's going to be talked about. It would not be

612
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: a bad pick. I just I think that the league

613
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: um trends and shifts, and I think with so much

614
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: sub package being played, I mean starting and I agree

615
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, Vantz Berfick was a three down

616
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: starting will linebacker. Where's almost two hundred fifty pounds or

617
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: it was two fifty had a hard time stand at

618
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: two fifty two fifty five. This guy, this guy is

619
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: even looks smaller on tape than what is what his

620
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: measure measurements are. But like we talked about before, he's

621
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: overcome it at every level. Overcame it at high school,

622
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: overcame it in the in the Big Ten, you know,

623
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: overcame it against really good football teams. I honestly, I

624
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: don't see a big gap between White and Bush. A

625
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: lot of people do. I don't. I think they're very, very,

626
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: very similar. I would have no problem if they took

627
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Devin Bush. I wouldn't. But I guess the old school

628
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: in me says man I just I just think, you know,

629
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick seems to be the guy that sets the

630
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: trends on a lot of ways. And you know when

631
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: he decided to just hunker down and throw that full

632
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: back back there and just started pounding people in that

633
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: running game, I think we want to see more and

634
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: more teams doing that against you know, the smaller sub packages,

635
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: because you're right, that's the way the league is now.

636
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: The league is seventy five to eighty percent nickel and

637
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: dime packages. That's just the way it's going, all right,

638
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: So you are taking Dillard or Jonah Williams if he's

639
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: there at number eleven, I'm taking Devin Bush. Let's go

640
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: to our dream scenario next. What would be the ideal

641
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: thing to happen the cards falling perfectly for the Bengals.

642
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: To me, it would be, you know, trade back they

643
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: number eleven comes Haskins. Is there? They getting multiple phone calls,

644
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, like we said, you know, my Miami at

645
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: number thirteen, thinking hey we better trade up because Washington,

646
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: the Giants, I mean, be awesome. But the Bengals are

647
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: talking to Miami. Washington and the New York Giants pick

648
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: thirteen fifteen seventeen. You have three teams on the horn

649
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: saying Haskins is our guy. We've identified him as the

650
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: guy that we want to try to go get. And

651
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be the case. I mean,

652
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody is going to be interested in

653
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: moving up to a number eleven for Haskins. They've got Jones,

654
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of other guys that I'm sure

655
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: they're looking at. All teams are, But to me, that

656
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: would be unbelievable to move back to that to get

657
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: an extra third round pick because they own the sixth round,

658
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: but they don't have much currency, you know. Otherwise. As

659
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: my feeling is, and I agree with a lot of

660
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: people that I've talked to, this draft is about rounds

661
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: two through four. That's when the draft starts getting real serious.

662
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: And if you can have an extra pick in the

663
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: top ninety five picks or one hundred picks or whatever

664
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: the case may be, I think that would bode well

665
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. All right, so we are in complete

666
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: agreement on our dream scenario. Here's what I have written down.

667
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: Haskins is there, and Washington at number fifteen desperately wants him.

668
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Alex Smith will be thirty five. Is careers in jeopardy

669
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: after the brutal leg injury last year. Right now, their

670
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are Colt McCoy and Josh Johnson. Not good. The

671
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: Dolphins are at thirteen. They're starting quarterback this year is

672
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: set to be Ryan Fitzpatrick. Not good. So the Redskins

673
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: decide we need to jump ahead of the Dolphins in

674
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: order to get Haskins. They make the deal with the Bengals.

675
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: So the Bengals move backward from eleven to fifteen. And

676
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: I looked at one of those NFL draft charts. The

677
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: eleventh pick in the draft, according to the one that

678
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: I looked at, is worth twelve hundred and fifty points.

679
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: The fifteenth pick in the draft is worth ten fifties.

680
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: So there's a two hundred point difference between the Bengals

681
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: pick and the Redskins pick. The Redskins third round pick

682
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: is worth two hundred and ten points on the draft board.

683
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. The Bengals move back, They get

684
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: the Redskins first round pick and third round pick, and

685
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: they give the Redskins one of their sixth to make

686
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: up that ten point difference. There's your deal. Now, the

687
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: bad thing, in my opinion, if they make this deal

688
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: is that Bush will no longer be there. If there's

689
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: any chance he's there at eleven, I don't think he'll

690
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: be there at fifteen. So they lose out on the

691
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: chance to get Devin Bush, get lineman. You still get

692
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: your linemen. And what it does do is it allows

693
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: you to address four positions of need instead of three.

694
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: So to me, they desperately need a linebacker, they need

695
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: another defensive lineman, they desperately need an offensive tackle. And

696
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: to me, I think tight end is a huge area

697
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: of need because of Tyler Eifford's injury history. So now

698
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: you can hit all four of those spots in the

699
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: first three rounds by trading back four spots. I agree

700
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: with you. And also here's another factor, and next factor

701
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, the Josh Rosen factor at quarterback. There's no

702
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: way in hell I don't care they're saying, okay, well,

703
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: both these young quarterbacks would be on a rookie deal.

704
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: That quarterback room would be toxic. You got a guy

705
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: that was the tenth pick of the draft. I mean

706
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals last year moved from fifteen to thirteen

707
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: and gave up a third and a fifth rounder to

708
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: do it. So look at the inventory in the capitol

709
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: they gave up last year to move up to Josh Rosen.

710
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: Now you take a quarterback with the first pick of

711
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: the draft, Josh Rosen is not going to be an

712
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal if they do that. I think it's interesting.

713
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, Randy Moss when he was traded to New England,

714
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: he went for a physical to New England and people

715
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: found out about it. Got to start tracking. Is Josh

716
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Rosen going anywhere this week before the draft? Because you

717
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: got to get a physical, make sure everything's okay there,

718
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: and they'll try to do it, you know, espionage undercover

719
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: as much as they possibly can. But there are already

720
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: a ton of teams, I'll guarantee you, Miami, Washington, the Giants,

721
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: they're all talking to Arizona. What would it take to

722
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: get Josh Rosen? Because if Josh Rosen came out in

723
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: this draft, he would have either been the number one

724
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: or number two quarterback in this draft. So Josh Rosen

725
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: could significantly affect two drafts in a row. A team

726
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: moved up five spots from fifteen to ten to get

727
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: on now they're going to trade them, and he'll affect

728
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: the order of the quarterbacks potentially, you know, in this

729
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: year's draft. So I think that Josh Rosen factor could

730
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: be massive and the Bengals will be dealing with that

731
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: a little bit, as will everybody else. With eleven overall picks,

732
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: When did the Bengals pick a quarterback? Not until Day three.

733
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be Day one or day two, because,

734
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: like you said, the needs, the other needs they have,

735
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: um you know, they'll they'll address it. And I think

736
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: I think that, uh, I think that not only I

737
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: don't think offensive tackler. I think linebacker. I think offensive

738
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: line linebacker. They could double down in multiple spots with

739
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: eleven picks. If they trade back and get twelve, they

740
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: can double down in three spots and still have six

741
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: other picks. Of course, you know a bunch would be

742
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: in the sixth round, but they'd still have a bunch

743
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: of picks to deal with. So that'd be interesting if

744
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: it could, if it could pan out that way. I

745
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: really think when it comes to quarterback the Bengals, I

746
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: think let's build it up around Andy Dalton for one

747
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: more shot. We still believe in him. We still think

748
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: he's a guy that in twenty fifteen could have not

749
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: only won a playoff game, but maybe won several playoff

750
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: games before he broke his thumb. That's how well the

751
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: team was playing that year. So I think their approach is,

752
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: we've got a new offensive minded coaching staff, let's build

753
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: up the talent around Andy and take a run at it.

754
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't think they'll take Haskins or

755
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: anybody with one of their top, you know, couple of picks.

756
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: I do think they'll take one. I'm thinking maybe the

757
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: fifth round, same round they took a J. McCarron, some

758
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: sort of you know Gardner Minshoe Greer from West Virginia,

759
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: somebody in that you know, that realm that they think,

760
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, this is a guy that that looks more

761
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: like a really good potential backup quarterback that you could

762
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: win with if you had to. But let's hold off

763
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: on using one of our top picks for now. Yeah,

764
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: And I think if you go with Kyler Murray, if

765
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: Arizona goes with him, they are committing to a specific

766
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: style of offense that they're going to run. It's like,

767
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, look at look at what Washington did. They

768
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: won RG three and they went Kirk Cousins in the

769
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: same draft, and it worked out where Kirk Cousins was

770
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: the guy that went to the Pro Bowl and made

771
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: all the money in RG three flamed out with an injury.

772
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: RG three was a straight line track guy, but he

773
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: didn't have to make him miss. He couldn't even slide.

774
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: RG three couldn't slide to the ground to protect himself. Weird.

775
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: You know, as athletic as he was, wasn't athletic enough

776
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: to do some simple things. But they're two different style

777
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. RG three gets injured, you have you have

778
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: to have two different separate offenses. And that's what you're

779
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: doing with Kyler Murray in most cases. You know, Baker

780
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: Mayfield is a Kyler Murray type guy. Obviously they did

781
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: the same things at Oklahoma. But if you have a

782
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: real that that type of quarterback, I mean to me,

783
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: you're making a huge commitment if you're the Arizona Cardinals

784
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: to say, all right, we're gonna junk everything. Cliff Kingsbury

785
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: is a quarterback guru. He has an offensive philosophy of

786
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. You know he's gonna throw it he's gonna

787
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: have a mobile quarterback that can change the launch point.

788
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be interesting. It will be very interesting

789
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: to see what they do with the other people at

790
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, because if he goes down, what do

791
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: you got? Then you're gonna have to implement a whole

792
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: new style of offense that Cliff Kingsbury doesn't necessarily even

793
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: want to implement. All right, you ready to take a

794
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: stab at the Bengal second and third round picks. Let's

795
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: go with the second round. This is the forty second

796
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: pick overall. Now, admittedly this is really a crapshoot. You

797
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: don't know you know who's going to get selected before

798
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: the Bengals are on the board with the forty second

799
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: pick overall, But what the heck, we'll take a shot

800
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: the Bengals second round selection. So let's say that you

801
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: know your first round selection comes true and they have

802
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: taken Dillard, the offensive tackle from Washington State. Who do

803
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: you see them taking then in the second round? In

804
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: the second round, I could see him if he's there,

805
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: and I don't think he will be. I think he's

806
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: gonna be late one early two Dexter Lawrence Clemson six

807
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: four three hundred and forty two pounds. He's got a

808
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: seven foot wingspan exactly defensive defensive line. Um, he's he's

809
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: he's a load. There's no question about it. He's he's

810
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: he's a factor. I mean, Clemson could literally have four

811
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. Three of them probably going to be first round,

812
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: the fourth might be. If not, he's going to go

813
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: early in the second if only two go all, all

814
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: four of them going to be gone very early in

815
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: the second round. And this this guy is uh, you know,

816
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: a little over five flat forty. It's not like he's

817
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: a you know, he's a he's a big old hog

818
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: that can't move. He's a he's got some significant long arms,

819
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: big hands, big old muckers. When he grabs you, he

820
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: puts you in the vice. You know, he can he

821
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: can leverage you when he locks you out. And that's

822
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing that you that's that's key as well.

823
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Not only a big body guy. He gets his big

824
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: hands on you and he bench presses you away from

825
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: him and you're seven feet away. He's got separation. He

826
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: can discard you, you know, shuck you like an era

827
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: corn and be right in the right in the place

828
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: to make a play. So that would be my dream

829
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: pick in the second round would be Dexter Lawrence. But

830
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that's gonna happen. I think

831
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: that is a pipe dream. And you know, potentially if

832
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: a guy like Mack Wilson might be there out of

833
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: Alabama and the linebacker out of Alabama, UM, you know,

834
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: go go that route. Six pounds, not caught, not as

835
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: fast as the others for seven ish type guy, but great,

836
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: you know football IQ. Um. You know another guy in

837
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: and out of Notre Dame. Um, I don't think he's

838
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: second round. I think he's a little bit later. He

839
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: might be my third round guy. But Tevn Coney out

840
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: of out of Notre Dame would be a linebacker type

841
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: guy that they might go if they don't go you know,

842
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: Devin Bush in the first round. I know Coney came

843
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: in for a visit, so clearly they're at least kicking

844
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: the tires on him. Yeah, I mean I think I

845
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: think he would be a you know, a good possibility there.

846
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: So I think another defensive lineman in the in the

847
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: third round potentially is Western Illinois Klin Saunders, big guy,

848
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, a little under six one, three hundred twenty

849
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: five pounds, very athletic. I mean, if he's there in

850
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: the third round, they could be going that route if

851
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: they go linebacker and round two defensive line. I think

852
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: if they go offensive lineman with the first pick, they

853
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: start attacking defense with the second and third round. With

854
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: the deficiencies we're talking about, and if there is some

855
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: some edge rusher in some way, shape or form that

856
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: has slid to they're picking the second round, I think

857
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: they jump on it and then you know, then there's

858
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: obviously a little bit of a drop off from that

859
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: edge rush standpoint. That's why you know, even though these

860
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: guys have medical issues potentially um you know, Sweat and Gary,

861
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: you still have to talk about him at eleven because

862
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: once those four guys go, it's it's a drop, just

863
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: like the two line backers a drop. The four edge

864
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: guys a drop. But those might only be a couple

865
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: of edge guys because of the injury factor. It's going

866
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see how it all plays out.

867
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: And we know that every team has a different philosophy.

868
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: Some guys will take these guys off the board if

869
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: they have this type of injury. You know, I shoulder

870
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: problem or particularly a hard issue. Others were got no

871
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: problem in role. But I've already heard a lot of

872
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: Bengals fans and other people around the league and said

873
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: to me, are they gonna draft another injured player? Ll

874
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: they drafted Billy Price last year and look what happened.

875
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna draft another injury player. Well it

876
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: wasn't his pack. He had another injury. And you just

877
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: you can't control injuries. You can't you know, determine. Oh yeah, boy,

878
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: in the future, he's gonna have, you know, Liz Frank

879
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: type problem. And you know, but I think I think

880
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: Bengals fans would like to see guys that are one

881
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: physically cleaned from an injury standpoint, being that eleventh pick

882
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: in the draft, and maybe even the second and the

883
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: third rounder. I get it a way. He had the

884
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: torn acl John Ross was injured before the Bengals took him.

885
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: Price tourist pack doing the bench press at the Combine.

886
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: So there has been a recent history there is, and

887
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: it's you know, I think, I think when you look

888
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: at it, that's another reason I like Dillard Clean is

889
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: a whistle, you know, the big lineman. I think the

890
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: offensive line guys are pretty clean. I'm not saying that

891
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, Bush or White have any injury history, but

892
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: when you look at it, you think, all right, from

893
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: a durability standpoint, over the long haul the pounding in

894
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: the National Football League, a big, strong offensive lineman or

895
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: an undersized linebacker that's going to be battling those hog molleys,

896
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, day after day after day. I think, you

897
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: know again again, I guess I'm thinking old school, um,

898
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: but I do think I think the league is gonna

899
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: said it a couple of times now. I think it

900
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: is gonna go Bill Belichick through it out there. Everybody's

901
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: going to have a full back, slashed height end guy,

902
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, wing back type that they can line up

903
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: in that I formation with the Bengals, Hubbard, Sam Herbert

904
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: going there and just start pounding those little bodies, you know,

905
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: for Joe Mixon and Giovanni Bernard. All right, my second

906
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: round pick, after I've taken Devin Bush eleventh overall, I'm

907
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: going to take one of the two second round tackles

908
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: that you mentioned earlier, so Titus Howard from Alabama State.

909
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: The Bengals historically don't like the small school guys. I

910
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: get it, but everything else looks good. He's big, six

911
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: five three twenty He faced Auburn at Alabama State, did

912
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: not give up any sacks or pressures in that game,

913
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: graded out very well at the Senior Bowl. So yep,

914
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: so Titus Howard. If he's gone, then Greg Little. You

915
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: mentioned him from Ole Miss, the bug a boo from

916
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: like a Bad Mojo. Perspective with him is that he's

917
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: from Cedrical Boy's High School, but he was the number

918
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: one offensive line recruit in the country, went to Ole Miss.

919
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: Long arms thirty five and a quarter inch arms, eighty

920
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: five inch wing span, longest arms of any tackle, good feat.

921
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: Maybe didn't play as well as the measurables in his

922
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: college career, a little bit inconsistent, maybe a little more

923
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: of a finesse guy than you would like. But second round,

924
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: you're hoping that Jim Turner can get him to play

925
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: up to his potential. I think Little will be there.

926
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: I don't think Howard will. I don't know Howard's There's

927
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: no secret with Howard anymore. It's out. The dude is

928
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: He's I think, got a potential to be special, And

929
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: like I said, he's the face of that Alabama State

930
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: team three time captain. What does that tell you about

931
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: the guy? So you're talking about all of those traits

932
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: and characteristics. If if I knew he were there in

933
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: the second round, I wouldn't even mess with the tackle

934
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: in the first round. I think I think he I

935
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: would not go eleven. I would not go to eleven

936
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: with Titus Howard. I think that is a little bit

937
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: too rich. But man, I'd do a one SEA on

938
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: him all day, every day. I'd do a two A

939
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: on him. And that's why I'm not sure if the

940
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: Bengals are gonna be able to experience him at that

941
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: stage of the second round. I think they do have

942
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: a better chance of getting little That's why I thought.

943
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking, man, if they if they go

944
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: that route, um, you know, people people are It's it's

945
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: almost a split camp. Cordy Glenn underachieves. Wasn't wasn't you know? Engaged?

946
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: Wasn't this? Wasn't that? Um. Bobby Hart signing was caused

947
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: as much negativity in Bengaldoom as a lot of recent signings.

948
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: For sure, you know, maybe they do go two tackles,

949
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: but with other needs that would that would be a

950
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: surprise for sure. All right to the third round, the

951
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: seventy second pick overall in the draft. You're on the clock,

952
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham, who do you select? Well again, I'm gonna

953
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna either go um if I go defensive lineman

954
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: Lawrence in the in the in the third round, if

955
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: he's a second round if he's there, I'm gonna go linebacker.

956
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: If I go, uh linebacker in the second round, like

957
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: I was talking about with Mack Wilson, Uh, then I'll

958
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: go a defensive lineman in the third round. So my

959
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: my third round defensive lineman is Klin Saunders, big boy

960
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: out of Western Illinois, a little under six one three,

961
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: under twenty five pounds, very athletic. I thought, I think

962
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: the Bengals, you know, being right at the cusp of

963
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: three A or beginning of end of three A or

964
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: beginning of three B, that would be a you know,

965
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: a decent pick for them. And if he's not available,

966
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: then I would go with Coney as a as a

967
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: third round linebacker. I think that's good value. I think

968
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: second round might be is too rich for him. I

969
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: think third round value value for a guy like Coney

970
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: would be there. He's very, very intelligent football IQ as

971
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: well as overall IQ having matriculated at Notre Dame. All right,

972
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: in the third round, I am going back to Michigan.

973
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Two of my top three picks are going to be

974
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: from Michigan. I'm going for Chase Winovich as my edge rusher.

975
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: Pro football focus would be doing cartwheels. They've actually got

976
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: him as a late first round on their top two

977
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty players board. Most of the other boards

978
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: that you look at seem to think he's a second round,

979
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 1: third round guy. So I'm I'm saying that he somehow

980
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: slides to seventy two because he's a little under size

981
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: six three two fifty six but tests off the charts

982
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: four point five nine speed, great production at Michigan, more

983
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: productive than Gary even though Gary's going to be the

984
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: first round pick. So and they did bring in Winovich

985
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: for a visit, so they're interested in him. I think

986
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: they get Bush in the first round, either Howard or

987
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: Little in the second, and Chase Winovich falls to them

988
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: at number seventy two overall as an edge rusher, I'm

989
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: seeing him and everybody's top fifty now I think I

990
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: don't think if he's there, I would jump on that,

991
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: but I don't think. I don't think he's gonna be there.

992
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: But that would be that would be amazing if he would,

993
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: if he would be there, But again he's he's he's

994
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: no secret anymore. And he really wasn't a secret. I mean,

995
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: he was the guy that was was, you know, putting

996
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: on all the pressure. Richard gary Is was the number

997
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: one recruit out of high school Rochard gary He was

998
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: the number one guy in the country. And he didn't perform,

999
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: like I said, great measurables, just good performance. Oneevich has good,

1000
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: very good measurables. Great performance. I mean, that's what you're

1001
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: looking for. I would I would run to the bank

1002
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: if he were there at number three, Dan, that would

1003
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: be awesome, that would be a real dream. But I

1004
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: just I'd be stunned if he's there. So if not

1005
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: one of the other good edge rushers that slide, you know,

1006
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: there's going to be somebody that the Bengals have a

1007
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: second round grade on that's there in the third round

1008
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: because their board is different from other people's boards. There'll

1009
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: be somebody Jalen Ferguson from Louisiana Tech. You know, forty

1010
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: five career sacks, but a small school guy in Conference USA.

1011
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he slides, he's another guy they brought in for

1012
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: a visit. But somebody like that that the Bengals like

1013
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: more than other teams. And he's there at number seventy two. Yeah,

1014
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's always somebody that the light goes on,

1015
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: or they were used improperly, like at Oliver was abused

1016
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: at Houston. I mean, I couldn't believe they had him

1017
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: playing over the nose in the defensive line. He is

1018
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: a three technique by everybody's standards and everybody's measurements. And

1019
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: you talk to me, that says a lot about his

1020
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: character that he would do that and not bitchman and

1021
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: complaining every single day of his football life at Houston.

1022
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: So he's a team guy, you know, and that to

1023
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: me that that's a plus for him. But you hate

1024
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: to see things like that. A lot of times guys

1025
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: are stuck in a system at college. I mean, you know,

1026
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: the legendary Paul Brown went in scouted Booby Clark at

1027
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: Bethune Cookman and they were playing him at tight end

1028
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: and he's like, huh, that guy, that guy's a fullback.

1029
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: I've always had, you know, maryon Motley, the big body

1030
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: Booby Clark is my fullback. So talent evaluators, Paul Brown,

1031
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: Bill wallsh they'll see a guy and say, he's this

1032
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: in my scheme, in my West Coast offense, he's this.

1033
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 1: Even though they haven't doing that, they're wasting this guy.

1034
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: And that's where that's where you're making your money. That's

1035
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: why you know, people are saying there are so many

1036
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: prospects in this draft. Rounds two, three, and four, that's

1037
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: where you're going to make your money. And third and

1038
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: fourth round are going to be very, very interesting for

1039
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: every team, including the Cincinnati Bengals. Final question for you,

1040
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: do you think that the coaching change has a big

1041
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: impact on the draft? You know, I think so for

1042
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: the reason I said before, the ten of them were

1043
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: in the college ranks as coaches last year. That's great

1044
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: intel for Duke Tobin and his people. But I think, honestly,

1045
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: I think this year in particulars as this staff was assembled,

1046
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: it was assembled fairly late. Marvin Lewis had his way

1047
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: of doing things in a draft room, coming from the

1048
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, the Baltimore Ravens. Obviously, you know Zach was

1049
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: with the Rams and some of the coaches and staffed

1050
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: with other organizations, but not necessarily having the involvement they

1051
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: had here with the Bengals. In my mind, this will

1052
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: be more of a Duke Tobin draft. I think Duke

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Speaker 1: a draft. I think he's in. He's the bus driver.

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Speaker 1: He's driving the bus. And I'm not saying that the

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Speaker 1: coaches won't have any input. They'll have a lot of input.

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Speaker 1: Like I said from a oh, I know this about

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Speaker 1: this guy that nobody else knows. I was with him

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Speaker 1: for four years. I was with him for three years.

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Speaker 1: I know all about this guy. But I think I

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Speaker 1: think that in terms of, you know, decision making, and

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Speaker 1: I think Duke's Duke's vote is going to carry a

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Speaker 1: lot of weight. You know, with Mike Brown, as he's

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Speaker 1: making his final decisions, everybody will get up and still

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Speaker 1: give their pitches. And but I think I think the

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Speaker 1: relationship between Duke and his scouts and the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: is in its early infancy stages. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: going through a metamorphosis for sure. So I think the

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Speaker 1: guy that is going to steer the ship, that has

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Speaker 1: all the experience is Duke Tobin. We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: the draft for nearly an hour. I could do another hour.

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Speaker 1: This is fun, I know, that's why that's why they

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Speaker 1: get great ratings. I mean, everybody, everybody, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: wants to see what the new blood is going to

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Speaker 1: be with their particular franchise. And I do think that

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Speaker 1: a lot of organizations around the league, of the Bengals

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Speaker 1: being one of them, have had some success in some

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Speaker 1: a lot of success with the draft, draft, develop and retain,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting those second contracts, the second bite of

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Speaker 1: the apple. And in a lot of cases, like we

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Speaker 1: talked about, you know, Croft has done it elsewhere. Other

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Speaker 1: guys Birkhead is going to be doing it elsewhere. But

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Speaker 1: the Bengals for a good part of last year had

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Speaker 1: the most players on the NFL rosters that they originally

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Speaker 1: brought into the league through draft and college free agents

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Speaker 1: that they signed than any other team in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. That speaks to what Duke Tobin, his guys

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Speaker 1: and the coaching staff and everybody involved with the draft.

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Speaker 1: That speaks volumes, I mean, tip of the cap to

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Speaker 1: their their process. Their process has been working. Next week

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about all the guys they picked. That'll be

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Speaker 1: fun too. Here you go, you get your you get

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Speaker 1: your Chris presence, and then you get a chance to

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Speaker 1: unwrap them and take them out in the field and

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Speaker 1: see what they look like. But it's like it is,

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Speaker 1: it's like Santa Claus and say, oh, what present are

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Speaker 1: we going to get here at linebacker? What are we

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Speaker 1: going to get here at this position group? So it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic. On Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, be sure

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Speaker 1: to checkout Bengals dot com for in depth draft coverage.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hobson and I will bring you a ton of

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Speaker 1: written content and Lap and I will do videos to

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Speaker 1: discuss the Bengals picks. At the end of each day.

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Speaker 1: We will review the draft on this podcast next week.

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Speaker 1: google Play, or pod Bean and if you have a minute,

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Speaker 1: feedback is always appreciated and those five star ratings help

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Speaker 1: more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm Dan Horde and

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