1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you do in life, but you 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: need to be a good person. You need to have 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: a good heart, and you need to do everything with 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: your heart and soul in it, because if not, it's 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: not worth it. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Good morning, good afternoon, Good evening. Emily body. Here you 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: are listening to episode three hundred and twenty one of Hurdle, 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: a wellness focused podcast where I talk to inspirational people 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: about everything from their highest highes and toughest moments to 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: essential tips on how to live a healthier, happier, more 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: motivated life. We all go through our fair share of hurdles. 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: My goal through these discussions is to empower you to 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: better navigate yours and move with intention so that you 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: can stride towards your own big potential and of course, 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: have some fun along the way. For today's chat, I 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: am sitting down with the ever lovely Monica Puig. She 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: is known by so many as a professional tennis player. 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: She's also the twenty sixteen Olympic gold medalists. In these days, 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: she's spending a little bit more time on the roads 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: and in the water having some fun competing in triathlon. 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: She most recently competed in the iron Man World Championships 22 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: in Nie and Oh my god, I have the biggest 23 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: chills after reading her Instagram recap posts. I will be 24 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: linking to her page in the show notes so that 25 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: you can do the same. But I digress. In today's conversation, 26 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Monica talks to me about the pivot from professional tennis 27 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: to triathlon, what that looked like for her, and of 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: course we also go way back talking about her upbringing, 29 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: how she got into tennis, what it was like for 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: her to take the gold medal at the twenty sixteen Olympics, 31 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: and the challenges that came hand in hand with navigating 32 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: injury after injury, and what her internal dialogue was like 33 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: when she made the difficult decision to step away from tennis. 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: Monica is such a light. I was so. 35 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: Grateful to her sponsor Athleta for bringing us together. We 36 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: recorded this in their Power of She space in Paris, 37 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: and make sure if you're not yet following along with her, 38 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: you do so a sap again. I linked her page 39 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: in the show notes. You can find Hurdle over on 40 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: social as well at Hurdle Podcast and I am over 41 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: at Emily a Body. 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And I know 51 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: I say this all the time, but your support it 52 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: means the world. So while you're in there and making 53 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: sure that you follow, also feel free to leave a review, 54 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: give the show five stars, tell the world why you 55 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: love being a hurdler. 56 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: With that, let's get to it. Let's get it's a hurdling. 57 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: Today, I am sitting down with Monica Puek. She is 58 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: a former professional tennis player. How are we doing today? 59 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: I'm doing excellent. How are you? 60 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: I'm not bad. 61 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: I can't complain. We're not in the worst place right now. 62 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: And we just did a pilates class, so I mean, 63 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: I think we're primed and ready for everything, primed and 64 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: ready for everything. 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: I am not the most skilled pilates er either. 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Am I I had to say, like my buns were burning. 67 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: Buns were burning. 68 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: But it was a cool experience and among other things 69 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: that you know, we've been doing around here in Paris. 70 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: So it's one to check off the list. 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 3: I want to check off the list. 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: And I don't want to put words in your mouth, 73 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: but as someone who considers herself mostly an endurance based athlete, 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm a runner, I'm a cyclist, I'm pretty into Olympic 75 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: lifting these days. But with all that said, I think 76 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: that many women like myself could probably use some more. 77 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, I didn't think it was going to be 78 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: that big of a workout. I was like plates, yoga, 79 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: they're in the same family. 80 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: They're not, They're not. It's an entirely different skill set. 81 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of the brief mention of running and cycling as 82 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: something that you know very well, when you took a 83 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: step back from professional tennis, you did get into running, 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: marathoning and then ultimately triathlons. Talk to me a little 85 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: bit about that decision and what made you steer that way. 86 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was a bittersw entrance into the different 87 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: world of running and triathlon because ultimately took up running 88 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: when I hurt my shoulder. When you can't use your 89 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: upper body, might as well use your lower body, and 90 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: started to do marathons with my husband. We've done four 91 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: out of the six major marathons, and ultimately we thought 92 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: running was a punishment because we both did tennis and running. 93 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: You know, we thought, you know, running a mile here 94 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: and there, and we would. 95 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: Always cry and complain about running, and then running just 96 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: sort of became this therapeutic thing once I was no 97 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: longer able to use my upper body while I was 98 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: rehabbing my shoulder from the injuries that I had during tennis, 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: and running became one of those outlets for my mind 100 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: when I was in a really dark place, not knowing 101 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: if I was going to be able to return to 102 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 1: tennis or not. And ultimately, once the tennis was over, 103 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: started to do those marathons, and my husband kind of 104 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: dared me into. 105 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 4: Doing Iron Man. He's like, maybe we should do one. 106 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: I thought he was completely crazy, until you know, for 107 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: a half iron Man, and you have to run half 108 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: marathon at the end of all things. So we thought, okay, well, 109 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: thirteen point one miles doesn't really scare us that much anymore, 110 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: so let's try and add the swimming and the bike 111 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: into the mix and did our first half iron Man 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: in September of last year and have done I think 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: it's three more or two more since, and preparing for 114 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: my first full in September and the Ironman World Championships 115 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and Nie. 116 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: And didn't really think I would end up here. 117 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, there's so much the double click on. 118 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: The first thing to double click on, we have to 119 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: go back to the shoulder injury that you step away 120 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: from tennis. Talk to us a little bit about how 121 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: that felt for you when you got to this place 122 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: that you said, I just don't think it's happening for 123 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: me anymore. Right. 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: It's really hard to kind of wrap my head around 125 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: because in a way, I still feel like I haven't 126 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: totally accepted the fact that I'm no longer playing professional 127 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: tennis and being here in Paris. I've been to the 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: tennis venue a few times and seeing some of my 129 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: peers compete, and I wish I could still be on 130 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: the court, living all those feelings and competing again. But 131 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: I was pretty fortunate that in the thirteen years of 132 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: my career, the injuries I sustained were at the tail 133 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: end of that, so had a pretty healthy career. All 134 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: around accomplished some pretty big things, one in those being 135 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: the Olympic will medal in twenty sixteen, which for me, 136 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: I hate talking about myself in any way. I don't 137 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: really like to brag about anything in my career because 138 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's not me. I like to hype 139 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: other people up. But that was something that you know, 140 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: I always said that being at the Olympics was something 141 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: absolutely huge, and it's I don't care what sport I did. 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to make it there. So that for me, 143 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: I still don't believe that it happened. It was kind 144 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: of out of nowhere because I wasn't really the favorite. 145 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: But things just happen and when they're meant to, when 146 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: they're supposed to, and it just happened for me in 147 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. It's like all the star line and everything 148 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: came together. But in twenty nineteen it was kind of 149 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: the start of the beginning to the end with all 150 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: these injuries, and in a way it kind of prepped 151 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: me for the goodbye because it was four really big 152 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: surgeries for really big injuries that kind of piled on. 153 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: Within those I believe it was three years, three and 154 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: a half years of just dealing with all this adversity, 155 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: and in a way it made me mature even faster, 156 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: even more during my tennis career. I think there was 157 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: a lot that I could have matured on, but I 158 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: wasn't really ready at the time, And during those three 159 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: and a half years, I really had to grow up 160 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: and kind of accept the fact that these things were 161 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: happening to me and also start thinking about the next chapter. 162 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: Happening to me. 163 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: But then, as what I'm hearing you say truly is 164 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: that they were also happening for you. As difficult as 165 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: it was for you to walk away from tennis, it 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 2: was also now an opportunity to see not only what 167 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: else you're capable of, but then explore other areas. 168 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 3: And I really don't want to. 169 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: Over the fact that we just listed gold medalists yeah 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: the Olympics, which is truly remarkable because you came into 171 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: that Olympic Games unseated. 172 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and rank thirty four in the world. So it 173 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: was my best year. I was having some really consistent results, 174 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: was riding a huge wave of confidence, having started that 175 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: year one hundred and eight in the world, I think, 176 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: with no real shot at making the Olympic team because 177 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: to qualify you have to be somewhere within the top fifty, 178 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: and it wasn't until the very last week of you know, 179 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: tennis qualification where it pretty much ended here at the 180 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: French Open. Actually I needed to make the third round. 181 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that at the time. My team did. 182 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: They kept it. 183 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: Quiet until it actually happened and they're like, you literally just 184 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: squeaked by. 185 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: Was elated. 186 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I was so happy, and then ended up losing the 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: next round, as most things that happen in that way 188 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: when you're like, oh, thank God, and then you know 189 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: your kind of performance goes down the drain, but it's okay. 190 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, it wasn't really expected of me. My whole 191 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: goal going into Rio was to enjoy the experience because 192 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: my mindset was, who knows if I'm going to be 193 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: able to do this again, because who knows what happens 194 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: from here to four years out, And COVID happened, my 195 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: injuries happened, so at the time I didn't know what 196 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: was going to happen, so I wanted to enjoy that experience. 197 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: I stayed in the Olympic village. 198 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: We had forty eight athletes from Puerto Rico and really 199 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: enjoyed my time with them. And I think that shift 200 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: in my mindset to really just enjoying myself, really just 201 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: taking in the experience relaxed me and took away the pressure. 202 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Because the first three rounds of the tournament, I was like, Okay, 203 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm playing well. This is great, 204 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: but didn't believe that I could actually win. Until after 205 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: the third round. I was like, I'm playing too well 206 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: to not believe in myself or give myself the opportunity 207 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: to even flip the switch and see how far I 208 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: could go. But all in all, every time I left 209 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: the Olympic stadium, the tennis courts, everything, I could shut 210 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: my mind off. And that's something that never happened throughout 211 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: my career. I was able to turn my mind off 212 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, I leave the tennis on the tennis court, 213 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and now it's time for me to enjoy this experience 214 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: once again. And many people have asked me, why couldn't 215 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: you translate that over into your normal career. I was like, well, 216 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: the Olympics is not your average everyday competition. It's something 217 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: completely different. There are so many athletes here who are 218 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: chasing the same thing. Who have like minded goals, who 219 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: really want this, and once every four years, this whole 220 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: event turns into you know, passion, desire, commitment, discipline, and 221 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: you see it in each and every athlete who comes here. 222 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: I find it so interesting what you said, Yes, the 223 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to turn my mind off when I leave 224 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: the tennis stadium, but more so the bit about I 225 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: was playing too well to not believe what I was 226 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: capable of, and that shows up or depicts to us 227 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: that there was an amount of confidence that you were 228 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: still working to find within your tennis, that you were 229 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: still getting to a place where you could truly believe 230 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: not only am I. 231 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: Good at this, but I can win this. 232 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: For someone that might be struggling to home in on 233 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: their own confidence, do you have any recommendations or thought 234 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: processes or mantras that you use to really hype yourself 235 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: up before you have to show up. 236 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: Honestly, I wasn't really big on the confidence stuff when 237 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: I played because I always felt, you know, that I 238 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: needed to be this person that I needed to achieve something, 239 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: so confidence was really hard to come by. And also, 240 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: being a woman, you're always nitpicking on yourself. So I 241 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: feel like my confidence really has blossomed post tennis, and 242 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: my advice to anybody now is try and find that 243 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: little window or that room of giving yourself grace, of 244 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: accepting yourself for who you are, because in this day 245 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: and age, obviously we're critiqued so much and we're supposed 246 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: to be held to this standard of perfection. But perfection 247 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: is impossible. Is it is so impossible to be absolutely 248 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: perfect in every aspect of life? But accepting yourself, even 249 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: if it's for five minutes, because I know it's very 250 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: difficult as a woman to accept yourself sometimes, you know, 251 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: we're at least me. I critique myself in the mirror. 252 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: I change my outfits like five times a day before 253 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: walking out the door, and even then sometimes I don't 254 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: feel comfortable in what I'm wearing. But you know, there 255 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: are those moments where I look at myself, you know, 256 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: take a deep breath, and I'm like, this is me, 257 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is who I'm always 258 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: going to be. So let me just accept that, Let 259 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: me love myself. 260 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: Isn't it so interesting though, to sit across from another 261 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: woman and say something like that, And I can guarantee 262 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: you that every single person listening to this podcast has 263 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: certainly felt that way and non today, probably within the 264 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: last week. Yet still all of those women would look 265 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: at you and be like, what a beautiful human being. 266 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter what you. 267 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: Look like, where you come from, what you're navigating, et cetera. 268 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: Everyone's going to have insecurities at one point another. 269 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: You can truly be like an entirely let's call it 270 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: like body accepting, right right, I'm not even talking about 271 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: like extremely body positive in that right, like oh my god, 272 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: I have the best thoughts whatever, but like you can 273 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: be completely body accepting. Like I like to think that 274 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: I'm like pretty body accepting, But that doesn't mean that, 275 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: like there aren't going to be moments when I look 276 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: in the mirror and I'm like, oh, this is just 277 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: how it is now. 278 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 279 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: And that's so I've I try, at least I've tried 280 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: to build my brand around is one word, and that's relatability. 281 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: I want people to relate to me in any way, 282 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: shape or form, even on my socials, Like, you know, 283 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: I see all these artsy instagrams and like perfectly esthetic 284 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: posts and stuff, and I look at my content and 285 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, why doesn't it look like that, but at 286 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: the same time, I sometimes I don't want it to 287 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: because I want people to relate to me. I want 288 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: people to relate to the fact that I don't know 289 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: how to make a real I don't know how to 290 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: take good pictures. But I also, you know, I know 291 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: what I like. I love coffee shops, I love my dogs. 292 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: I love being at home. Traveling sometimes sucks and I 293 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: miss being home, but then I also really love to 294 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: travel and explore new places and try new things. So 295 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, if anybody can you know, look to me 296 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: or you know, take away anything, is that I want 297 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: to be able to identify with so many people. I 298 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: want people to identify to me, and I want people 299 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: to see me as a very approachable person because let 300 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: me just tell you, if you stop me on the 301 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: street and want to have a chat, I will stay. 302 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 4: There and talking until the cows come home. 303 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: It is very difficult to get me to stop talking 304 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: because I just love meeting new people and sharing experiences 305 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: and learning about the world about other people, and that's 306 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: really important to me. 307 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: Your sentiments earlier around perfection, just this concept that perfection 308 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: isn't relatable, vulnerability is relatable, and That's really what we're 309 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: getting at here when we talk about the desire for 310 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: people to be able to maybe see what you're putting 311 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: out there on the Internet on Instagram and be like, no, 312 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: I totally get that, and that's really special. I think 313 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: that as we continue on in this day to day 314 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: of the highlight reel, the best thing that we can 315 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: do as women who are trying to lead some sort 316 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: of an example is show up and be our authentic selves. 317 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that sometimes there's not going to 318 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: be a nice bow on it by the end of 319 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: the day. Think about the net content that you're putting 320 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: into the world and if you are executing in a 321 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: way that would make your future self proud. That's always 322 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: what I'm kind of gut checking with myself when I 323 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: think about what I'm putting into the world. Is am 324 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: I creating something that not only has a purpose and 325 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: is worthwhile, but also just like make someone else feel seen? 326 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: And going back to wanting to feel seen and dialing 327 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: back a little bit to your injury period during that 328 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: time frame we're talking about that four year Olympic cycle. 329 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: Right after winning gold, who made you feel seen? How 330 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: did you do you find comfort in knowing that you 331 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: weren't alone in that difficulty that you were experiencing. 332 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: It's you know, obviously family, but pretty much going to 333 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: summarize it in one word or two words, and that's 334 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: my husband. I met him, you know, just in the 335 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: tail end of twenty twenty, just when I was starting 336 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: to get injured with my shoulder. I already had an 337 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: elbow injury coming back from that and my shoulders started 338 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: to act all wonky. You know, we were starting to 339 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: date at the time. I mean, he's known me through 340 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: pretty much all of my surgeries. He's seen me at 341 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: my absolute lowest point. He's taken pictures and videos of 342 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: me completely chaoed on pain medication, and like within seconds, 343 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: he gives me a coffee. He turns away to sit down, 344 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: and I'm dead asleep with a coffee in my hand. Yeah, 345 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: and he's had to wash my hair in the sink. 346 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: He's had to see me cry because I simply couldn't 347 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: do the thing that I felt identified me as a person, 348 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: and that was Tennis, and he stood by me through 349 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: it all. I had to move to Arizona to do 350 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: shoulder rehab and he was working remote and he asked 351 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: if he could come with me, and this is when 352 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: we were dating, and I said, well, I don't know 353 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: how long I'm going to be out there for. He said, 354 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I want to support you. It's in 355 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: those moments that I knew obviously I wanted to suspend 356 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: the rest of my life with him because no other 357 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: person would say I want to support you. And I 358 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: was at my low point, like I can understand what 359 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: people want to support at the high points of your career, 360 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: when you are on top of the world, where everybody 361 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: wants a little bit in peace of you. But when 362 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: you are nothing, when you are unseen, when you're down there, 363 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: the people who want to support you and be in 364 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: your life and are not there for all the glitz 365 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: and the lamb, those are the people that I hang 366 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: on to. And he really came into my life at 367 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: a point in time where I felt miserable, I felt 368 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: worthless because I felt like I was just invisible and disappearing, 369 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: and he made me feel seen. Yeah, and he supported 370 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: me through everything. Still does you know? And our life 371 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: is far from. 372 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: Home. It's very chaotic. I literally haven't been. 373 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Home this year for more than like a month, and 374 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: he supports me in everything I do. 375 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 4: So it's really about having. 376 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: Great friends, amazing family, people that really care about you 377 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: despite you know, what's going on in your life, whether 378 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: you're at a higher or alone. 379 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do good times with anyone, but you 380 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 2: can't do bad times with everyone. Yeah, So to have 381 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: someone there for you that supported you through those bad times. 382 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: Thank you for sharing how difficult they were for you. 383 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: On that note of the difficulty, you said you just 384 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 2: really felt a loss of self, a loss of feeling 385 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: of purpose. Can you elaborate a little bit on those 386 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: feelings and talk about when you started to realize that 387 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: there was light for you to reach for despite dealing 388 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: with so many hardships. 389 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 4: Well, it was tough. 390 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, I felt like I was disappearing and 391 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: I felt invisible. So when you're playing in your professional athlete, 392 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: everything is done for you, You're completely taken care of. 393 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: All the attention is on you, what do you need? 394 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: And once you kind of take a back seat, obviously 395 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: you become one of the has been's kind of thing. 396 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: And it was kind of hard that transition from being 397 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, in the public eye all the time, having 398 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: all of this attention to kind of just fading into extinction, 399 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: I would say, because you're no longer what you were. 400 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: And also in that time where I felt like it 401 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: was all you know, that beginning to the end, actually 402 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: did get a call and this is why I'm here 403 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: in Paris is to be with Athleta. I got a 404 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: call from Athleta and they wanted to be a part 405 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: of my journey. And I was like, hold up, wait 406 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: a minute, I'm retiring, and they said, it doesn't matter. 407 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: We want women. 408 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Of all phases of life, whether they're new moms, whether 409 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: they are moms, whether they're retiring, whether they're at the 410 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: prime of their career. You know, all sizes, all body types. 411 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: We want to support women. And I was like, so, 412 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: this is what it's like to like, really be seen 413 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: by someone. This is what it's like to really be appreciated. 414 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I found, like I said, those support systems, 415 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, when I felt like I was starting to disappear. 416 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: That made me feel like a somebody, like I said, 417 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: my family, you know, they they helped me kind of 418 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: grasp the fact that I'm not just a tennis player. 419 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: I wasn't just a tennis player. I was Monica. 420 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: Every time I would come back from a trip, they 421 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: always made it a point to not talk about tennis, 422 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: not talk about work, and just ask me how I 423 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: was doing as a person, as an individual. Where is 424 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: your favorite restaurant, Let's go there, Let's let's really appreciate 425 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: the time that you're home and not really focus on 426 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: work in those moments. It's it's it's really important to 427 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: just see yourself as you know, the superstardom of it all, 428 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: it's put it to the side because it's it's it's 429 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: not real. I feel like that that life, that world, 430 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: it's not real because you could be up here and 431 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: everybody wants to know you, but when you're down here, 432 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: nobody really wants to be around. But the people who 433 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: really want to be around and you feel like the 434 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: world is ending. 435 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: Those are the people, and those are the relationships that 436 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: you have to value and keep close. 437 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: So special. 438 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: Such a beautiful takeaway from a really difficult moment. And 439 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: you said, not only after that moment where you met 440 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: and started dating your husband, but then ultimately, after stepping 441 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: away from tennis, you two getting into triathlon. I want 442 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about that transition and almost 443 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: establishing or picking up a new part of your identity 444 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: when you really got into running. When you began with 445 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: that modality, did you find it challenging? 446 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, it was a very tough transition because I'm 447 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: going to be extremely honest. I was in a very 448 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: mentally tough tennis player. When things got hard, it was 449 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: very tough to push myself over the limit. Not to 450 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: say that I didn't do it many times, and I 451 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: had a coach and a team who knew what I 452 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: needed from them, and I needed them to push me. 453 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: But that self drive to push myself I always struggle with. 454 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: So when you're running a marathon or doing a try 455 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: off on or an iron man, you are out there 456 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: by yourself. You know, I know my husband's somewhere on 457 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: the course, but we're not doing it together because you know, 458 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: we have this agreement that you know go. And also 459 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: you have the finish line and you really have to 460 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: battle your own demons out there, and whether you're super 461 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: tired or you feel and ache and pain somewhere. 462 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: You need to know how to push yourself. 463 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: This whole journey helped me grow into that person, help 464 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: me know when to push, when to say no, when 465 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: to give my body a break and when to really, 466 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, just suck it up and go for it. 467 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: And that was a really hard transition because running a marathon, 468 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, at the beginning, it's all really cool, I 469 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: got the cameras, let me smile, whatever. You get to 470 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: mile eighteen and you feel like you want to just 471 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: crawl on the floor and die. Same with the iron Man. 472 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: You know, you finish the swim, you feel like you're 473 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: about to fall over because you're disoriented. You get off 474 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: the bike and your legs are insanely heavy for the run, 475 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: But then that euphoria when you cross the finish line. 476 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: It's like I did that. I trained for that, and 477 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I accomplished that. And that's what keeps me going. It's 478 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: that I continue to accomplish things. And like we were saying, 479 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: these these sports were completely foreign to me, and it's 480 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: like what I was talking about in the panel a 481 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: couple days ago with Athleta. You can't limit yourself to 482 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: one thing in life. So tennis was my thing. But 483 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: if I didn't try something else, if I didn't explore 484 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: another avenue, another opportunity, because I felt like I needed 485 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: a competitive outlet in my life to keep going to 486 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: have a goal to push for every day, a sense 487 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: of purpose. If you don't explore other things in life, 488 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: you never really know what you're also good at. I 489 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: never knew in a million years I thought that I 490 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: was going to be a triathlete, that I was going 491 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: to want to do iron man Like I said. It 492 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: was a dare, and I said no at the beginning 493 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: because I thought it was insane. But you know, I 494 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: discovered something, a passion of love for something else. But 495 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, people think I'm crazy, but I feel extremely 496 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: empowered by this new world. And I always lived in 497 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: this tennis bubble and now I'm discovering these athletes who 498 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: have been doing this for so many years, and they're 499 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: completely badass. 500 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 4: It's incredible. 501 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: The most badass, the most badass. 502 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: And you know what else I think is really beautiful 503 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: is it's not just opening yourself up and realizing that 504 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: you can be good at something else. It's the concept 505 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: of opening yourself up at all and realizing that there 506 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: may just be other things in life that. 507 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: You can enjoy. You don't have to be good at it. 508 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 2: No, Like I don't know, I'm not really good at 509 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: cycling myself, but I really love getting on my bike 510 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: and tuning out for two and a half hours. 511 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: I absolutely adore it. Or I'm not really good at 512 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: hot yoga. Actually I'm awful at hot yoga, Like. 513 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 4: We're not great at pilateus. But you know, we enjoyed 514 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: it at the end, exactly. 515 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 3: We enjoyed it at the end. 516 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: And like I know, I'm using active examples, right, there 517 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: are so many things cooking aret like anything that you 518 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: can name, and if you're just not doing it because 519 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: you're worried that you might not be good at it, 520 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: or you're just intimidated to start, then you're truly missing 521 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: out on the opportunity. And that even goes back to 522 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: our conversation about mindset. It was like you were saying 523 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: to yourself when you started to win those matches, I'm 524 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: doing too well not to believe in myself. And sometimes 525 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: you just need that one match that finally strikes and 526 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: lights to be the thing that convinces you, oh no, 527 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: there's a flame under there. Yeah, I just have to 528 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: be the person that's willing to stoke. 529 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: It, exactly. 530 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of people sometimes need 531 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: a reminder that there is so much more that you 532 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: can accomplish that. You don't have to just be one 533 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: thing in life. You can be so many things. You 534 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: can wear so many different hats. And like we said, 535 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: sometimes people are so scared to try something new because 536 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: they think they're going to fail already. Yeah, look at 537 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: babies when they start walking, they fall down, you know, 538 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: dozens of times, but yet they keep getting back up, 539 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: and they keep wanting to walk because they think it's 540 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: fun and the world is interesting and they want to 541 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: explore more So in life, if you fall down a 542 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: ton of times, that's just an opportunity to Okay, let 543 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: me learn why did I fall down and what can 544 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: I change so I can keep moving forward. 545 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: Well, that reflection piece, that's the thing, right, because it 546 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: is up to us then to take the time not 547 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: only to reflect, but then learn from what happened. And 548 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: if you don't take the time to learn from what happened, 549 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: then you won't be able to move forward in a 550 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 2: way that really is representative of what you're capable of. 551 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: If you want to do different, something's got to be different, right, period. Yes, 552 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: And so if you're interested in taking on a new skill, 553 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: trying on a new sport, or whatever the case may 554 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: be You have to be willing to fall a few 555 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: times and then get yourself back up exactly. 556 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: And you know, there's another aspect of that, like if 557 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: you're around other people, what are they thinking of me? 558 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: Are they judging me if I'm doing it wrong or whatever. 559 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: You don't have to do everything perfectly. You're not going 560 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 1: to be an expert at everything. And that's something sometimes 561 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: that I struggle with if I'm in a group of 562 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: people and i feel like I'm doing something like you know, 563 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: one of my teammates in my travel on team, he's 564 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: an excellent swimmer. 565 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 4: He did swimming in college. 566 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: And I get in the pool with him and he's 567 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: swimming super super fast, and his technique is much better 568 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: than mine. And sometimes I don't feel like doing the 569 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: drills because I feel scared and embarrassed that I'm not 570 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: decent at swimming. But at the same time, that's his process, 571 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: that's him. He is the swimmer I'm not. But I 572 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: am trying to become a better swimmer. 573 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: Every day. 574 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm focusing on the things that will help me improve 575 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: as a swimmer. So you know what, I can't really 576 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: focus on what other people are thinking. They might not 577 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: even be thinking of you honestly, or they might not 578 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: even be paying attention to you. But if you're constantly 579 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: limiting yourself because you're worried about oh my gosh, what 580 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: are they thinking of me? Or the what ifs of things, 581 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: then everything becomes that much less enjoyable. And you know what, 582 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: I think that that is very limiting factor in life 583 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: that I'm also trying to grasp. I'm not perfect at it, 584 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: like I said, I still think a lot about what 585 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: are people thinking of me? But you know what, those 586 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: are the things in life that we need to get 587 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: better at and you know, start to evolve and adapt 588 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: and change. 589 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let go of the uncontrollables, right, And 590 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if you follow Laura Green, 591 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: she's a really funny running let's call her a comedian 592 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: and I'll show you her her profile page after we 593 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: stop recording. 594 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: But she always says, like, nobody cares. 595 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of the day, like I mean, yes, 596 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: there are people that care about you, but in the 597 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: scheme of things, everyone is more often than not so 598 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: focused on their own stuff. Yes, that if you're tripping 599 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: in the corner, it's like, oh, it might be funny 600 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: for a second, but. 601 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: Like it's really okay, Right, It's really okay. 602 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Hey, I've honestly like this is you know, this stays 603 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: between us, everyone between us of the podcast. I have 604 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: fallen face first on Fifth Avenue with cars around when 605 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: I was getting ready for the New York City Marathon. 606 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: Like I dragged my feet so much when I ran, 607 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: and it was so embarrassing. So happens, especially on the 608 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: avenue with cars and people around. But you know, you know, 609 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: it happens. But then you get back up and everybody's like, 610 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, is she okay? And then they get 611 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: back to their lives and the exactly, you know, the 612 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: horns are honking because the light is green and they 613 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: have to move, you know, exactly. 614 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to talk to you 615 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: about one of my sponsors, and that is ag One. Now, 616 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: as you know, morning routines are absolutely critical to me. 617 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: That is the biggest understatement. My morning is my favorite 618 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: part of my day. 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Slash hurdle again 644 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: that is d r I n k ag one dot 645 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: com slash h U R d l E to get 646 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: yours today. Which one which of the world Majors was 647 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: your first World Major? 648 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: New York? 649 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, talk us through that experience and how it 650 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: encouraged and inspired you to do it again. 651 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: So my husband actually did New York one week before 652 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: a wedding. Everybody thought we were crazy. My whole family 653 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: wanted me to pull out of it because if something 654 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: were to happen, face plan on Fifth Avenue. You know, 655 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: the the cuts and bruises don't really look so good 656 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: in a wedding. 657 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 4: Dress, but it covers them. 658 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 659 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, talk I'm a. 660 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: Very clumsy person, believe it or not, I really am. 661 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: I trip over everything. But it was something that I 662 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: really wanted to do post tennis. Was you know, once 663 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: I started getting into the running, was do one of 664 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: the major marathons in New York. Happened to be the 665 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: first one. We were very aware it was the week 666 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: before a wedding, and we still wanted to do it anyway, 667 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: and it was a great experience. My husband and I 668 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: did run that one together side by side, and that's 669 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: where we realized, like, Okay, our paces are very different, 670 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: so one of us needs to go ahead next time. 671 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 4: And you know what, we finished it. 672 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: We had fun and running twenty six miles, like I said, 673 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: is a monster because at the beginning you are loving it. 674 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 4: I loved New York. I love the energy. It was great, 675 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 4: but that. 676 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: Race was one of the most miserable New York City 677 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: marathons I think for so many people because it was 678 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: so hot. 679 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 4: It was twenty twenty two. 680 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: It was raining, then the sun came out, it was humid, 681 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: then it was overcast. I feel like we had so 682 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: many different elements come in all at once. But then again, 683 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: it was a mentally challenging race and either you drop 684 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: out or you finish, and we ended up finishing and 685 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: it was insane. But all the while you're running, you're like, 686 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: I never want to do another one again. You cross 687 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: the finish line, you're like, when is the next one? 688 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm ready? 689 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: And that was We ended up doing Boston and London 690 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: in the same week as well in twenty twenty three, 691 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: so it was kind of like that, Okay, when's the 692 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: next one? You have five days to get ready and 693 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: fly across the pond and run another marathon, but it's again, 694 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's a challenge. 695 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 4: It's what would get me out of bed in the morning. 696 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: And even though you know I'm tired, I need to 697 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: train for this because I want to feel prepared. And 698 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: the more prepared I am, the less it will hurt. 699 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: And the less it will hurt, the more I can enjoy. 700 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: So that was kind of like the chain of thought. 701 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 3: The less it will hurt, the more I can enjoy. 702 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 4: Exactly. 703 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: I love that mindset around like oh no, we got Yeah, 704 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: that's the more preparation the better. 705 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 706 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: It's like I met actually Elliott Kipchogi Humble Brag before 707 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: the Boston Marathon and I had a one on one 708 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: with him and I was talking. 709 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 4: He you know, gave me his book that was signed. 710 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: I gave him a tennis racket sign and he looked 711 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: like a little kid at at Candy story was like 712 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: bouncing the ball in the racket and hearing by yeah. 713 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: I mean they were trying to protect him, like if 714 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: the ball fell he would go and get it. Everybody's 715 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: like oh, because they wanted him to WHI but he was. 716 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: He was so sweet And then I asked him, like 717 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: any piece of advice for me before I run the marathon. 718 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: He's like, don't worry, just run it in two hours 719 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: and he'll be done in no time. I was like, okay, 720 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: maybe for you, you can run in two hours. 721 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 4: Me, I'll be done a lot later than that. 722 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: I need a little bit more time here. 723 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: But you know, also a human like that superhuman who 724 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: can run at the speed that he does, and for 725 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, as as decorated as he is in the 726 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: marathon world and as celebrated as he is, you know, 727 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: he loves this so much. And he didn't have the 728 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: best races. You know, he wasn't feeling great, but his 729 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: mindset and approach to the races, his mindset. After having 730 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: a couple setbacks in the races that he had and 731 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: he didn't win, he just said, look, I had the 732 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to get up tomorrow and better myself as an athlete. 733 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to see what happened. I'm going to learn 734 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: from it, and I'm going to come back to the 735 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: next race and I'm going to try and do my 736 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: best to win. And that's the mindset. It's forever growing, changing, adapting, 737 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: and forever learning. You want to be a student of 738 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: the game, and that's something that I try and focus 739 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: on even in track on. I have a coach, and 740 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's teaching me all of these different things 741 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: because look, open water swimming is hard. Swimming in general 742 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: is hard, so I need to learn the techniques. But 743 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: I had an accident on my bike a year ago 744 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: and still am very nervous when I get on the bike. 745 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm still very nervous for the iron Man World Championship, 746 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: which is a niece, which is in a mountain, So 747 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not scared of the climbs, I'm scared 748 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: of the descents. I've heard they're pretty dodgy. But again 749 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: that comes to preparation, confidence, believing in yourself that you 750 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: can do the. 751 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: Hard things or those that don't have the context. Can 752 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: you talk a little bit about how you are racing 753 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: the World Championship knowing that you're, like I said, relatively 754 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 2: is an interpretive word, but relatively new to triathlon. 755 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: So the World Championships in Nice, they give the opportunity 756 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: this year for a couple of people who qualify in 757 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: half iron Man's with a certain time in qualification to 758 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: be able to qualify for the full World Championship, so 759 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: I was able to get my slot into Nice and 760 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to race in a World Championship, whether 761 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: it be half or full. Going to be doing my 762 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: first full, it's insane. I'm very I'm very, very scared 763 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: to get this is Nice, right, I'm scared because it's not. 764 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: You know, my best halftime was actually like ten days ago. 765 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: It was five hours and eleven minutes, and knowing that 766 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: it's going to have to be double that and five 767 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: hours and eleven minutes on a flat course, right, so 768 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: this is not going to be flat. It's going to 769 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: be mountain for the bikes, so lots of steep inclines 770 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: and then the descents you know, are very technical. So 771 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: there's also you know, strategy involved. Do I take my 772 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: try bike, do I take my road bike? What is 773 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: going to be most comfortable for me? How do I 774 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: approach the run? Because you know, like most people, when 775 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: you start a race, you're very enthusiastic. 776 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 4: You want to get going. 777 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: Especially on the run, you need to control your pace 778 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: because after a swim, after a bike, you need to 779 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: run a full marathon after that. How am I going 780 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: to approach that? How am I going to handle these 781 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: things mentally, because in a half you can race. I 782 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: feel like there you can really just say, Okay, I'm 783 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: going to exert myself to the fullest and I'm just 784 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: going to go. And I feel like for a full 785 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: you need to learn how to pace yourself and just 786 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: think of it as I need to be doing this 787 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: for a whole day, and that's from sun up to sundown, 788 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: and you need to finish, and my ultimate goal is 789 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: to finish under twelve hours. 790 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 4: Will I do it? I don't know. Will I finish absolutely? 791 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 4: And they're going to have to drag me off the course. 792 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know someone who's listening to it here as 793 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: you talk about such a really impressive but also very 794 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 2: difficult challenge ahead of you, and maybe they're asking, how 795 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: do you garner the courage, the confidence? What do you 796 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: say to yourself during those hard moments to show up 797 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: and rise to the occasion. 798 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 3: What is it that keeps. 799 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: You going when it really does feel absolutely awful. 800 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: It's again remembering how I feel at the finish line. 801 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: It's also knowing that I signed up for this because 802 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: I wanted it, not because anybody's forcing me to do it. 803 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: This was my decision. 804 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: So when I toe the line, it's pretty much like 805 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: there's no turning back. I Am going to finish it 806 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: because this is what I wanted to do. This is 807 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: my dream, this is my goal. And whether I accomplish 808 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: a time or not, that's like, you know, that's a 809 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: secondary goal, but you always want to finish. And I 810 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: want to hear the words Monica Puig, you are an 811 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: iron man and that only happens when you complete a 812 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: full and you know that is amazing in itself, and 813 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: being able to do and participate in a World Championships 814 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: is already amazing. I qualified for the half World Championships 815 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: next year as well, just when I did the last 816 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: half in Ohio, And for me, that's what I also 817 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: love about the sport is that an. 818 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 4: Amateur can qualify for World Championships. 819 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: So like you don't need to be a pro, you 820 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: obviously need to dedicate a lot of your time. I 821 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: feel like I don't have a social life because of it, 822 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: but I'm fine with that. I don't mind, you know, 823 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: training and laying on the couch with my dogs and 824 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: just being like, okay, the day is done. But you 825 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: know you have something to push for, you have something 826 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: to strive for and you it's honestly so enjoyable to 827 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: see improvements each and every day in three different sports. 828 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 829 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: So to speak dynamically about all the other things you 830 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: do as well. Clearly, when you were playing professional tennis, 831 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: that was your full time gig. Now how are you working, 832 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: what are you doing? Talk to us about what you're 833 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 2: up to. 834 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: So apart from the triathlon, I work in commentating in tennis, 835 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: so I work for ESPN Deportes at the Grand Slams, 836 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: do it in Spanish commentating, and then I do work 837 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: with Tennis Channel as well, so I go out on 838 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: location to some tournaments or I'm based out in La 839 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: at the studios, which is incredibly awesome. The opportunity presented 840 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: itself when I was injured, so kind of open the 841 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: door and set myself up for the next chapter of life, 842 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: which was you know, for me, it was nice that 843 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: when I retired, I knew I already had something to 844 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: fall back on, which sometimes for athletes can be pretty scary, 845 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: like what is next? What else can I expect of myself? 846 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: What am I good at? And it was always clear 847 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: to me that I wanted to work in that field. 848 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: I love and feel very comfortable being in front of 849 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: a camera. I love to talk and socialize, so that's 850 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: also very good. But you know, I love journalism. I 851 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: love to write. I feel like I'm very created when 852 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: it comes to my words and what I put together, 853 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: so that was great. And then also working with Athleta 854 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: doing a bunch of different things, wearing a ton of 855 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: different hats, doing some MC work A tournaments, which I 856 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: absolutely love because then I get to interact with some 857 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: of my peers who I am still very close with, 858 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: And it's just nice to be this busy. Although I 859 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: do miss spending time at home, which I didn't really 860 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: really realize that I missed and loved so much since 861 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: I retired. You know, it's fulfilling for me because I 862 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: always wanted to keep busy and not just be like 863 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: twiddling my thumbs at home. 864 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 3: Not twiddling my thumbs at home. 865 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 2: What would you say has been the peach and the 866 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: pit of this transition period within your life. 867 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: I think the peach of it is just, you know, 868 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: still being able to travel, still being incredibly busy, and 869 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: having a lot of things to look forward to. The 870 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: pit of it is, you know, sometimes wanting to be 871 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: at home. My husband's at home working, he's with my dogs, 872 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: not being able to see my family as much. Those 873 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: little things that you know you wish you could be doing. 874 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: But you know, they understand and they support me, and 875 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: they want me to be happy and live my best life. 876 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 1: And ultimately, I know there's going to be a time 877 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: where I'm just going to take a back seat and 878 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: take a. 879 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 4: Little bit of a break. 880 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: But right now, with all this motivation, energy drive, I 881 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: just want to continue. 882 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 4: To pursue these dreams and goals that I have. 883 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you say being happy being such a priority for 884 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: you outside of the triathlon, What would you say are 885 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 2: the things that bring you the most joy now when 886 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 2: it comes to your career. 887 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: I think you know, like I said, I really love 888 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: the travel of it all. 889 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 4: I like going to the tournaments. 890 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: For example, in a couple of weeks, I'll be going 891 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: back to the US Open and working. I like being 892 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: in that environment because you know, it brings back some 893 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: good memories from when I played. I like being able 894 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: to discover things that I'm good at and continuing to improve, 895 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: as for example, a broadcaster learning how to you know, 896 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: find my voice, still learning how to express my opinions 897 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: in a very respectful way as well, because you know, 898 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of criticism that comes in journalism as well. 899 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: But you know, I like to learn and take things 900 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: from each and every person that I meet or that 901 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: I watch get better at studying my craft. What can 902 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: I do to get better? What anecdotes or notes? You 903 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: know that goes into you know, being a good broadcaster. 904 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: But you know, there are so many things that I 905 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: thoroughly enjoy. I think I'm a happier Monica from when 906 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: I was playing tennis because I put I did put 907 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on myself. But now I feel 908 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: like I understand life a little bit better. And that, 909 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: like I said at the very beginning, comes with maturity 910 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: and knowing who you are and loving yourself. 911 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I'm hearing you say also is that 912 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't that you didn't love competing in tennis, but 913 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of freedom that comes when you 914 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: get to a place where you're not setting the bar 915 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 2: so high all of the time, right, And I say that, 916 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 2: and I also respect and understand that, like you do 917 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 2: have a high bar set for yourself by how you 918 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: want to show up on broadcast. When you're in the stadium, 919 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 2: when you're working in this new way, it's just a 920 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: different type of pressure exactly now. 921 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: It's not the pressure that, Okay, I need to do 922 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: exactly the right thing to achieve this outcome. 923 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: The outcome is going to happen already. 924 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: I know that whatever I'm going to say, it's either 925 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: going to rub people the right way or the wrong way. 926 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: I know that I'm going into my broadcasts, and I 927 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: know I'm going into every single match that I call 928 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: with the facts and the facts are there. I'm just 929 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: going to say what I know because I have lived it. 930 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: I have been out on the court. So when I 931 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: see somebody going through a pressure situation, I'm going to say, 932 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: this is exactly what they're going through because this is 933 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: how I felt it as well, you know. And I 934 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: just try and go as prepared as possible, and you 935 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 1: know what, whatever happens happens. But I know I'm going 936 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 1: into each and every day giving my one hundred percent. 937 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 938 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: At at the top of this, we talked a lot 939 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 2: about what it felt like for you to have these 940 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 2: expectations placed on yourself and perhaps like interpret the opinions 941 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 2: of others. Someone comes to your Instagram page and they 942 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: see that you are someone who has a gold medal 943 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 2: and see your beautiful history with tennis and also now 944 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 2: this newfound passion for triathlon. But when you look in 945 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 2: the mirror, Monica, what is it that you see now 946 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 2: looking back at you? 947 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: H looking back? You know, I see Monica who is 948 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: very ambitious. She was, you know, maybe a little bit insecure, 949 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: because I feel like we all are or were at 950 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: one point in time. And you know, I see somebody 951 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: who wanted to be accepted by everybody and be loved 952 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: by everybody. And you know what, that's okay. But fast 953 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: forward to the Monica now and it's just a more authentic, 954 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: genuinely happier, more accepting, more at peace with life and herself. 955 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: And that again, I said, just comes with the maturity. 956 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: And you know, all the years of just understanding that 957 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: this is who you are. 958 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 4: Sure, we all. 959 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: Evolve, we all change, we all, you know, become different 960 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: versions of ourselves over the years. But at the end 961 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: of the day, this is who you were built to be. 962 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: And your future's already written out for you, and we 963 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. But if we 964 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: try and be good, decent human beings each and every day, 965 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, with the values that our parents instill in us. 966 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: And you know, my parents made it very clear they 967 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: didn't care if I was a good tennis player, but 968 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: they cared that I was a good human being. And 969 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: that's a value that I hold with me near and 970 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: dear to my heart each and every day, and a 971 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: value that you know, in the future when I have kids, 972 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: that's that's going to be the number one thing. It 973 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you do in life, but you need 974 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: to be a good person. You need to have a 975 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: good heart, and you need to do everything with your 976 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: heart and soul in it because if not, it's not 977 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:29,439 Speaker 1: worth it. 978 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 3: If not, it's not worth it. 979 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 2: So when you look in the mirror, you see a 980 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 2: good person, yes, looking back at. 981 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 4: You, at least I hope. I hope. So, But that's 982 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 4: that's what I feel. 983 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, some days you feel like a little bit better 984 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 3: than others. Depends exactly. 985 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have two problems, and that's fine, that's fine. 986 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 4: Everybody has an off day. 987 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, as a whole, being a good person and 988 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: being kind is extremely important to me. 989 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: I love that, and I love the the nudge or 990 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 2: the note, really crediting your parents with instilling that with 991 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 2: a you. Within my own family, our family motto is 992 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 2: doo good. And so I'm always asking myself when I'm executing, 993 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 2: am I doing something that's good? And am I doing 994 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 2: something that genuinely has good intentions behind it? 995 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 3: And if not, then what's the point? 996 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 4: Right exactly? 997 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: Because there's you know, if you're being kind to other people, 998 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: it's it's going to be repaid in the future. You know, 999 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: you just have to always, you know, be kind to 1000 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: others because you know there's really no point. 1001 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: I also think like as someone and I'm sure that 1002 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 2: you can relate to this because you are certainly an 1003 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 2: entrepreneur yourself at this point, as someone who has to 1004 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: be their own advocate and an entrepreneur and has the 1005 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 2: opportunity to work with many different people, I'm constantly reminding 1006 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 2: myself that it is possible to both be kind and 1007 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 2: also be firm. You can be someone who treats everyone 1008 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: with respect and also be clear with what it is 1009 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 2: that you're worth, what it is that how we communicate 1010 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: what the expectations are, And I think that that can 1011 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 2: be a lost art. Sometimes people are not understanding that 1012 00:48:58,480 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 2: you don't have to be a mean person to get 1013 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 2: what you want exactly. You can also like just approach 1014 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: a situation with a nicety to it. 1015 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: It's called setting boundaries. Boundaries for yourself, boundaries for others. 1016 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 1: Knowing that when somebody crosses your line, because we all 1017 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: have a line, whether it's here or here, there's a line. 1018 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,759 Speaker 1: If it's crossed, you need to let people know and 1019 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, be firm. I've had people who you know, 1020 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm having a conversation or either they disagree, they start 1021 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: raising their voice, and I'm not going to you know, 1022 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 1: stoop to that level. Like Michelle Obama says, when they 1023 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: go low, we go high. So it's always being like, okay, 1024 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: let me stay within my boundary. If when they're crossing 1025 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: my boundary, I'm going to let them know, you know, 1026 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: take a couple steps back or calm down because this 1027 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: is not the way to talk or this is not 1028 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: the way to act, and let's have a civilized conversation 1029 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: about this, you know, or if we're getting heated ourselves, 1030 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: let me take a step back because I'm also crossing 1031 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: my own boundary and that's not what I want to do. 1032 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: Because then you know, you lose essence of you know 1033 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: what you want to either communicate, you lose essence of 1034 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: where you are, your situational awareness or everything. So it's 1035 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: always about being as present as possible and knowing where 1036 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: your boundaries are. 1037 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 2: This really goes into that whole concept of respond versus react, 1038 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: and sometimes when there's a lot happening, it's a hectic situation, 1039 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 2: it can be easy to react, yes, by asking yourself 1040 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 2: and we said this before, what would make my future 1041 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 2: self proud? 1042 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 3: Right? 1043 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 2: I want to always do my best and it might 1044 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 2: not happen every single time, but of course I dedicate 1045 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 2: myself to always making an effort to respond, and I 1046 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 2: think there's so much, so much, so much value in that. 1047 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 2: As we wind down here, I'm so appreciative for everything 1048 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 2: that you've shared about your journey, especially highlighting the lows 1049 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: and the highs that have come with the last handful 1050 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: of years since Rio in twenty sixteen. Right now, looking 1051 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 2: back on your journey, going back to those numerous surgeries, 1052 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 2: those hurdles that you fail as you started to come 1053 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 2: to grips with the fact that you were. 1054 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 3: Going to stop playing tennis. 1055 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 2: Knowing what you know, now, Monica, what advice would you 1056 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 2: offer yourself going through that hurdle moment. 1057 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: I think the biggest word would be patience because that 1058 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm not a naturally patient person, and I've had to 1059 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: learn a lot of patients, especially in the world of 1060 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: endurance sports, you need to be patient because it's not 1061 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: going to be a short journey. It's going to be 1062 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: very long. And also patients in dealing with the injuries, 1063 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: Patients in dealing with what doctors tell you, what pts 1064 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 1: tell you, what your own team is telling you, Patients 1065 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: with people maybe not understanding what you're going through. And 1066 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: patience with yourself because like I said, I'm not naturally patient, 1067 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: and in those moments when you know, the doctor was like, 1068 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: maybe you should wait another week before you start PT 1069 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: or maybe you should wear the brace for another week, 1070 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: and I really didn't want to because it was uncomfortable. 1071 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: I needed to be patient with others and patient with 1072 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: myself and knowing that I'm healing, things are happening, patients 1073 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: in knowing that what I knew for you know, my 1074 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: whole entire life, and you know, since I started playing 1075 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: tennis up until when I retired, like twenty one years. 1076 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 4: Of my life. It might be coming to an end. 1077 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 4: So let me be. 1078 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: Patient with myself and allow myself to feel the feelings 1079 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: that I am feeling, because that is also not very 1080 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: easy to do. You want to be this strong, confident, 1081 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: independent person, but you're also feeling a lot of things 1082 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: and that's okay. So be patient with yourself and allow 1083 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: yourself to do these things. Allow yourself to feel these feelings. 1084 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: So whether it's advice to myself or advice to others, 1085 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: be patient with yourself, be patient with others, be patient 1086 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: with the situation. Because patience is not easy, but it 1087 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: can help you in a lot of different situations. 1088 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: We'll never regret being patient, and you owe it to 1089 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: yourself to be kind to yourself. So many really awesome 1090 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: takeaways here today Monica. For those that don't follow along 1091 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,320 Speaker 2: with you just yet on social give us the details. 1092 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: So my handles are Monica Ace ninety three on X 1093 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Don't really post on threads. I'm not really 1094 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: big on TikTok. Maybe I should be, but you know, 1095 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm no Simone Biles on TikTok. I'm no cocoa golf 1096 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: on TikTok, and I don't want to pretend to be 1097 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: because they, you know, set the bar very high. And 1098 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: but again, you know, on my socials, be prepared to 1099 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: find lots of content on coffee, my dog's traveling, and 1100 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, just relatability. I'm always doing something, goofy, always 1101 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: making fun of myself somehow, so we love it. 1102 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily's body and at Hurdle Podcast. Another 1103 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 2: hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time