1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: your bets. It's me Joey Paid, Joe Pisapia and it's 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: the one hundred and fiftieth running of the Kentucky Derby 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: this Saturday. Get excited, everybody. It's everybody's favorite time of year. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The NFL Draft is behind us, and now it's time 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 1: to look ahead to something fun here and I have 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: two of the absolute best folks to chat about it with, 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: returning from last year but now working at a different place 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: here VI Sin's own Mike so Much, is going to 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: join us here. He's the host of the Handle. He 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: also does a ton of work in the horse racing world. 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: If you haven't already seen it, you need to go 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: check him out there on the Twitter verse or x 14 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: whatever the heck we're calling you today at Somobam eighteen. 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: You can also check out racing dues where he does 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: a lot of work too. But so happy to have 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Mike back and one of my good old friends from Sportscrew, 18 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: who's now at FanDuel TV. Look at this handsome devil 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: all the way on the West coast. Everybody's over there. 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm freezing my butt out here in Jersey. And there's 21 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: my boy, Dubbs is here. Dubz Anderson obviously is back 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: again and he is gonna walk us through some of 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: his favorite picks here for the Kentucky Derby. Doves is 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: great to see you. How's the golf game going, my friend, 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: because I know that's the true passion for you. 26 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, might look. I've spent the last six months trying 27 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: to get the handicapped to scyrockehead of member guest. Two 28 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: weeks back. We did pretty good mate into the horse 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: Price funny off. But golf game's been good, panting's been 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: decent to good, and now we go to Kentucky Derby. 31 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I love the golf lovel sports, but this 32 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: is going to be right at the top of. 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: The list now, Mike, I don't know if you have 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: time for golf or anything else with your schedule nowadays. 35 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Do you get out there on the links ever? What 36 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: are you doing? 37 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: I golf every Monday. It's one of those things I 38 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: absolutely love doing. I love just going out as a 39 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: solo and be able to play as fast as possible, 40 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: sometimes play two balls on a hole. I used to 41 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: be good I'm not good anymore. Back to the double 42 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: digitati caplight for me. 43 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had two kids and I stopped playing, and 44 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: I haven't played in like ten years. And now I'll 45 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: get to the point where there are teenagers and now 46 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: they want to hang out with less with me. So 47 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: now I'm thinking maybe it's that time to pick up 48 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: that again. But we're gonna pick up Kentucky Derby. So 49 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna go through the favorites to and what we're 50 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: looking at here also some of the favorite long shots 51 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: and then the best bets between the guys, because there's 52 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: different ways to approach this year to make money. And 53 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: of course, if you haven't already made sure you download 54 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: the Betting Pros app. Utilized the tools here at Betting 55 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Pros the best tools on the planet. You want to 56 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: find the best line, the best house for whatever it 57 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: is your waygerg in sports, Betting Pros is the place 58 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: to do it, So go to Bettingpros dot com or 59 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: just download the app. It's very easy and sink your 60 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: sports books for free today. Mike, let's start with you here. Obviously, 61 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: we've got the favorites that are pretty clear from what 62 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: we have on the board for the one hundred and 63 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: fiftieth Kentucky Derby, Fierceness is at five to two, then 64 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Sierra Leone at three to one, and Catching Freedom at 65 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: eight to one. Again, those are the best odds of 66 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: the horses on the board. What do you take out 67 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: of the favorites this year? 68 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: I really like one of them. I really like Fierceness 69 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: in this spot. We've seen him run three very good 70 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: races and two not so good races. If you go 71 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: watch the two races he did not run well in 72 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: he got in some traffic trouble, got banged around early, 73 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: took some kickback, didn't like it. He drew the seventeen posts. 74 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: He's gonna move inside of the sixteen with the scratch 75 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: of and seen. I actually think it's a great draw 76 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: for Fierceness because he's gonna be able to sit two 77 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: three wide on the first turn, two three wide on 78 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: the second turn, be in the clear and be able 79 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: to make one big run. And when you look at 80 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: him from a numbers perspective, he kind of towers over 81 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: this field. Anyone else in this field is going to 82 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: need to improve close to ten percent from their best 83 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 3: number to be able to beat him, and that's if 84 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: you look at Buyer, that's if ay look at time 85 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: for him. So really, anyway you cut it, he seems 86 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: to be the class of the field. And I'm not 87 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: someone who likes to pick the favorite in the derby, 88 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: but at this point I think it's hard to get 89 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: around fierceness, especially when you look at Sierra Leone, who's 90 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: the second competitor here. He just draws terrible in that 91 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: two posts. I comp him to tap At Trice last year, 92 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: who drew the five he was last first under the wire. 93 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: I expect Sierra Leone going to be last first under 94 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: the wire this year. And that makes it really, really 95 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: hard to weave through nineteen other horses when you're gonna 96 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: be stuck inside early in this race, especially when you're 97 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: a big horse who is not all that athletic. He 98 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: needs to get his stride going and just continue it 99 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: and so he cannot get stopped at any point of 100 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: this race, and that's going to be a real challenge 101 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: for Sierra Leone. 102 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Now, Mike, liking the favor as much as you do, 103 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: do you think the fierceness has any legs for a 104 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: triple crown run? 105 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: This year. He's the only one I would even consider 106 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: to be able to win the Triple Crown. The problem 107 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: for him and I think he actually caught a good year, 108 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: to be honest with you. You've got Mooth and a 109 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: couple others waiting for you in the Preakness, but he 110 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: has already beaten Mouth, did that in the Breeders' Cup Juvenal, 111 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: and then the Belmont's not a mile and a half. 112 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: This year, we're going to Saratoga. It's going to be 113 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: a shorter distance. I think that kind of plays into 114 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: fierce as Sands as well a couple places right now. 115 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: I know it's circa in Vegas. You can get ten 116 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: to one to win the Triple Crown. That should probably 117 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: look more like thirty five to one. So not something 118 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: I would bet, but he is the one horse from 119 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: this field that I think could do it. 120 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: All right, Dubbs, let's get your look here at the favorites. 121 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Fierceness at five to two against here Leon at three 122 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: to one, and Catching Freedom at eight to one. And 123 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: as Mike mentioned before, we also had Encino out. Epic 124 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: Ride is now into the field as well, but again 125 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: a lower odds there. So what do you make of 126 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: these favorites. Are you where Mike is dubs where you 127 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: think that fierceness is the favorite for a reason, but 128 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: still a good wager on the board. 129 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, class of this field always an opposed to 130 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: the setup that we got from a set seventeen spot. 131 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: But you'll hear the storyline all week over. Forty four 132 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: from starting position seventeen now moves across to the sixteen hole. 133 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: And for me, I'm not going to share it right now, 134 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: but my top endorsement is a bit of a price play, 135 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: and now they're going to be starting from a seventeen position, 136 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: so that works against me. But in terms of fierceness, look, 137 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: I think Mike makes a great argument. The only sort 138 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: of hesitation knock I would say is to be looking 139 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: at that form cycle. It's been monster performance Bounce, Monster 140 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: Performance Bounce was an absolute monster in that Florida Derby. 141 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: I think you could argue that comes into this one 142 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: well rested, has some really strong connections in Todd Pletcher, 143 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: Johnny V and I feel like the storyline last year 144 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: was all about fort av and unbackable as a short 145 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: priced favorite, a game time scratched for Ripoli and his team, 146 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: which was major news. You know, the day of the 147 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby, the big favorite has ruled out. Well, they've 148 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: got a very good chance to run it back this 149 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: year with Fierceness, who certainly is the class of this field. 150 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: One probably a decent number that come kick off as well. 151 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: But for me, I'm looking Atwards and other brad Cox runner. 152 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: He did have the three entries pointed towards the big 153 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: race there on Saturday afternoon you highlighted and see no 154 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: scratches from this one. I think Catching Freedom the four 155 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: listed there eight to one on the morning line. It's 156 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: Flavion Pratt in the Irons who has had a win 157 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: at the Kentucky Derby. But I feel like there's a 158 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: bit of an asterisk next to that one. And as 159 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Mike, so many horses in this field, 160 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: the younger runners, some of them haven't fully developed. You 161 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: need a bit of a run in your favor, and 162 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: that's sustained run style. That closing kick for Catching Freedom, 163 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: that's the standout for me. So keep one the four. 164 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: Flavion Pratt won the best hoops in the game right now, 165 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: and you may be able to get a bit of 166 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: a price for one of the top three favorites coming 167 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: in for this field. So I think catching Freedom makes 168 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: a bit of sense, all. 169 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Right, So making money is fun. Long shots obviously a 170 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: little bit more fun, potentially because of a bigger payoff. 171 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: We want to be right. So I'm very happy that 172 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: the guys do kind of agree here on the favored 173 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: as being investible. But let's get a little bit deeper 174 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: here and look at some of the long shots. So 175 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: when you're looking at the board right now, obviously I 176 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: mentioned before you had catching Freedom at eight to one, 177 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Forever Young at ten to one, just to touch at 178 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: ten to one, and then a bunch of horses that 179 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: are twenty to one, much bigger long shots here, as 180 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned the younger field. So, Mike, when you look 181 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: at the long shots here, the horses that are not 182 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: at the very tip top, do you think that there's 183 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: anybody who might be able to place or maybe even 184 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: shock us. 185 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: I do think there are a couple of long shots 186 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: that are definitely playable on the board right now. The 187 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: other Brad Cox here just a touch coming out of 188 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: the bluegrass last time, I think makes a ton of sense. 189 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: He's ten to one on the morning line right now 190 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: breaking from the eight posts, which has been a post 191 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: that's done very well in the past Kentucky Derbys, and 192 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: this horse comps a lot to mage to me last 193 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: year's Kentucky Derby winner. It's going to be his fourth start. 194 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: He ran very well in that Bluegrass and did a 195 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: lot of the dirty work set the early fractions, was 196 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: close to a fast paced and got beat by Sierra Leone, 197 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: but was still trying to run at Sia Leone toward 198 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: the end of that race. So at ten to one, 199 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: I think he makes a lot of sense being able 200 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: to hit the board here. The other one's right to 201 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: his inside, which is a horse that I have loved 202 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: through this entire Triple Crown process. A horse that has 203 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: bred to go a mile and a quarter absolutely wants 204 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: every bit of this distance. And if you go back 205 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: and just isolate watching Anna Marie in his previous two races, 206 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: you can see the mental aspect of this horse growing 207 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: every single start. If you go back two back in 208 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: the Risen Star, he was just goofy, didn't want to 209 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: run for half of the race, then decided to kick 210 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: it in gear a little bit around the turn. You 211 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: go to the Louisiana Derby. I thought, a much more 212 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: professional performance, clearly starting to figure things out. And then 213 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: this last workout goes forty seven seconds over four furlongs. 214 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: The horse, all of a sudden is showing a little 215 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 3: bit of early speed. If Anna Marie can inject some 216 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: early speed into his game and not be all the 217 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: way in the back and then still have that closing kick, 218 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: I think a mile and a quarter hits them right 219 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: between the eyes, and twenty to one is a very 220 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: nice price. 221 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: It certainly is. That would be very nice. So twenty 222 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: to one could pay out potentially for Honor Marie w. 223 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: When you look at the board here and you're looking 224 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: at the Kentucky Derby long shots, who stands out to 225 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: you as potentially investible? 226 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, look on, I mana here in the West coast. 227 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: It might be a bit of a bys towards Phil Diarmato, 228 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: Antonio Fraser, the number eighteen Stronghold. Now, I feel like 229 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Stronghold's going to sneak under the radar, but had a 230 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: pretty big win in the San Anita. Derby has looked better, 231 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: has looked to appreciate the further we get in distance, 232 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: the speed figures still look very progressive and for me, 233 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm sort of banking on that. We haven't seen the 234 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: best yet for Stronghold in terms of the draw, it's 235 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: not ideal. Will now start from starting positions seventeen highlighted 236 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: the history against there if you're into trends like that, 237 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to buy into that. So for Stronghold, 238 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: what needs to go in favor obviously going to need 239 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: a bit of a pay set up, probably a hot 240 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: tempo early in this one to come charging for home 241 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: once they hit the final furlong. But Antonio Fraser, you know, 242 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: Frankie Detori is going to be in the film Flavion Prout. 243 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: We highlighted some of the star jockeys, Antonio Fraser for 244 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: a lot of betters and punters that are looking to 245 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: play the game on the weekly, especially out here on 246 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 2: the West Coast. Antonio Fraser is a name I'd say 247 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: younger names is coming across the US the last twelve months. 248 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: Has been writing at a very strong clip. Phil dian Marta. 249 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: He knows how to get get him primed up for 250 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: a big performance like this one. And for me, a 251 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: bit of an I guess angle I like to throw 252 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: in here, especially around this time of years, to see 253 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: that what horses in this field have done well at 254 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: Churchill Downs, you want them to just be a little 255 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: bit more comfortable in this surroundings. And for Stronghold, this 256 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: is where we broke the maten. Underneath the twin spies, 257 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: there's going to be in excess of one hundred thousand 258 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: mad race goers, a lot of noise, a lot of horses. 259 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: So it's just one small percentile that I can sort 260 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: of use in Favorite Awards Stronghold to make a bit 261 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: of a case three winner. That's where I'm going to go, 262 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: and I do think we may even get north of 263 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: twenty to one, which is listed on the morning my number. 264 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, it's time to look at the best 265 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: bets for the Kentucky Derby. And obviously, you know we 266 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: talked about the favorite being in the mix. But when 267 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: you're starting to fill out your cards here and trying 268 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: to make the most money possibly can and maximize your efforts, Mike, 269 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: I want to start with you, what are your three 270 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: best bets for this Saturday's Kentucky Derby. 271 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: Well, for me, I think it's important that if you 272 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: like a horse, you bet the horse to win. I 273 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: had Mage last year on the top. I didn't hit 274 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: the exact, but the fifteen to one price made it 275 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: worthwhile for me. The price not nearly as good this year, 276 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: but I do think there's a lot of value inside Fierceness. 277 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: If you're able to get three to one five to 278 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: two on race day, I think that could end up 279 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: looking like a steal. I know, Joe, you were mentioned Justify. 280 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 3: He went off at five to two, three to one, 281 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: like that. Those type of horses are values sometimes the 282 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: Kentucky Derby, especially if you are against the second place horse, 283 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 3: and I am one hundred percent against Sierra Leone, who's 284 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 3: three to one on the morning line, I feel like 285 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: it almost is a takeout and answer in a lot 286 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: of ways. So I'm happy to take five to two 287 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: on Fierceness if that's the price we're able to get. 288 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: We load into the gate from a couple other bets 289 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: that I like here. I'm going to really rely on 290 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 3: Fierceness in this spot and try and juice up the 291 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: payouts further down the line. If I am going to 292 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: have that win ticket, I want to make sure that 293 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: I can make some money in the exotics So I'm 294 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: going to go to Too Exacta and I'm gonna put 295 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: Fierceness right back on top, put him in that first slot, 296 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna look at three horses underneath that we've 297 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: actually already talked about. So I'll take the four Catching Freedom, 298 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: who Dubsy mentioned. I would have this horse higher actually 299 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: have a future ticket at twenty five to one to 300 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: win the Derby on Catching Freedom. If he had drawn outside, 301 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: I would have this a lot better chance of Catching 302 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: Freedom being able to win this race. I comp him 303 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: to Angel of Empire last year that was Brad Coox 304 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: for Flavian Pratt, and it was a closer, a very 305 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: similar style horse. That horse drew outside, just lost to 306 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: mage and running to a gap. If you had won that, 307 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: he might have won the race. I think Catching Freedom 308 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: has a chance to hit the board, not sure he 309 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: can win it. And then we're going to go to 310 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: Anna Marie, the seven horse and the eight horse just 311 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 3: to touch underneath that EXACTU so seventeen with four to 312 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: seven eight, and then the Holy Grail of Kentucky Derby betting. 313 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: You gotta play a super fact. These things average ten 314 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: thousand dollars per year, paying out over the last ten years, 315 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: so we're going to take a shot there. We're going 316 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: to copy that exact ticket, so we're going to play 317 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: fierceness on top with the four seven and eight in 318 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: the second spot, and then we're going to add some 319 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: prices into that third spot. The five horse one that 320 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: we have not talked about yet in this race here. 321 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: Catalytic ran second in the Florida Derby. That was the 322 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: first time Catalytic had gone two turns. He was three 323 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: white on the first turn, four white on the second turn. 324 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: Still able to beat the rest of that field thirty 325 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 3: to one, a monster number. I think he can run 326 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: up into that try or the super as well. And 327 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: just to his outside, just Steele, who is twenty to one, 328 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: is a horse that's just a very Johnny Tryard horse 329 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 3: shows up every time with a solid effort. Coming out 330 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: of the Arkansas Derby, ran second in that spot. So 331 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: we're gonna put those five horses in that four spot, 332 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: and then the third spot, and then the fourth spot 333 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: we're gonna add the twenty one who draws in here 334 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: epic ride, So that super infected ticket will be seventeen 335 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: with four seven eight with four five six seven eight 336 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: with four five six seven eight twenty one. Hopefully we 337 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: can catch a big one. 338 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: There you go, look at that. He has got it 339 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: all on lock. Mike is the best of the business 340 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: for a reason, Dovesy. There's a lot of numbers there, 341 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: and obviously we've got to take a breath there and 342 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: kind of it take them all in. But again, for you, 343 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: when you're looking at this, I love when we have 344 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: different points of view and different voices here when it 345 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: comes to these horses, especially in the derby, because everybody 346 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: loves to bet the Kentucky Derby, but a lot of 347 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: people just don't understand it. And I love how my 348 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: breaks it down. So let's break it down again from 349 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: your point of view when you're looking at this race. Here, 350 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: how we can make some money on it besides just 351 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: betting the favorite, which I know all three of us 352 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: like today. 353 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and look listen and Mike grip in there. I mean, 354 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: I feel like I want to run through a brick wall. 355 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: What are we had four days until we get to 356 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby? And for the average sports better thinking, 357 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: why should I play the derby? Some of the prize 358 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: pools that we're going to see Chinormalists two years ago. 359 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: The super effector which some of the bombs has highlighted 360 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: over three hundred and twenty thousand dollars. In return, I 361 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: hit the one on the Oaks last year sixteen grand 362 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: off one hundred bucks spence. So this is why you're 363 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: going to be played on Saturday afternoon. I think Mike 364 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: makes a really good case Fierceness is the horse to 365 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: be the absolute class of this field for a couple 366 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: of massive connections Johnny v and Todd Pletcher and absolute 367 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: must gives. I've got three selections here. You can use 368 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: them a single win tickets built around in terms of 369 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: creating a little super effect, a tri effector. But I 370 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: would include fierceness absolutely with these. I like catching Freedom 371 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: the shortest price there for me. Flaviyon pratt ryding for 372 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: Brad Cox's monster performance in the Louisiana Derby. If we 373 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: take a slight step forward, if we get a nice 374 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: little pa sit up does have that closing kick, Catching 375 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Freedom should be a part of the conversation. We've got 376 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: two Japanese runs. The Japanese runs really haven't fared well 377 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: coming across into the Kentucky Derby. Forever Young is an 378 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: absolute monster in terms of the speed fix. That's the 379 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: question mark for me, but a perfect five for five 380 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: race resume. It comes in for a really well known trainer, 381 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: Yashido Yahagi, who's very bullish in terms of trying to 382 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: win the US races. If it's at the Breeders Cup 383 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: where he's had success, now the Kentucky Derby. I caught 384 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: up with him back in Australia. He's got all the 385 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: big threats. He just wants to, I guess, have his 386 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: presence felt on the biggest of stages. I think this 387 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: could be the year for a horse like Forever Young 388 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: with the right setup to be a part of the 389 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: conversation and could still be sneaking there at a bit 390 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: of a price. And my massive price play will be 391 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: My top endorsement is Stronghold. The number eighteen trained by 392 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,239 Speaker 2: Phil Demato Antonio Fraser in the Irons highlighted that versatility 393 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: these the younger runners. We still need to see a 394 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: bit of development from Stronghold, but if we get it, 395 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: I really do think having that experience six stants, six 396 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: different courses, knows where the wires should appreciate the further 397 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: distance and we get back to familiar surroundings. This is 398 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: where we broke the maiden. And I like what I'm 399 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: seeing from Antonio Fraser. I was texting him a couple 400 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: of days ago. He loves his chances. He's got a 401 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: lot of confidence in this horse, and in the way 402 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: that Phil Demato is priming Tom up for the big 403 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: race on SAT. Day after Nerds. So the shortest price 404 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: for me catching freedom the four eight to one on 405 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: the morning line. Forever young, We're going to become the 406 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: first Japanese raider to win the Kentucky Derby for a 407 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: very very accomplished trainer in your shit at your hangy 408 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: and stronghold. To surprise and shock a lot of people. 409 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: The number eighteen who's listed a plus twenty twenty to 410 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: one on the morning line. 411 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: Pretty good stuff. No excuses anybody for not making money 412 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: on the Kentucky Derby, now, I mean, these two guys 413 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: just broke it all down for you. And remember, make 414 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: sure you're placing your best using that Betting Pros app 415 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: think your sports books for free today, subscribe to the 416 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: Betting Pros channel, And gentlemen, here's the big question. I 417 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: have never been to a Kentucky Derby Live. If I 418 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: do hit, I think that I might just have to 419 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: attend one one of these years. Now I don't have 420 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: a fabulous had a hair like you two, So the 421 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: question is what hot do I wear to the Derby 422 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: when I make all this money next year? 423 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: I think you's a phenomenal The bowler hat. There I 424 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: go with the bowler hat. 425 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: There you go, the bowler You know, Fedora Dubsy. I 426 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: automatically just look very very nineteen twenties gangster. This Italian 427 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: face in a Fedora sometimes puts people off, but maybe 428 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: that's the right vibe for the Derby. I don't know, 429 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: or should I go with something a little bit more festive? 430 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: Does? 431 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: No, you're not taking the hat. You notice the Jason 432 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: Statham of sports. You get a rock the dimes. Don't 433 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: take your sunglasses. Always lose my good sunglasses at the 434 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: track after a couple of siders. So if you get 435 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: the win you're taking. The three of us will play 436 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: a big golf beforehand, and then we'll ball up underneath 437 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: the Twins spots from Monster Diet. It's gonna be fantastic. 438 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: The Jason stathum folks, that's why Duvesy's always my favorite. Gentlemen, 439 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: it's great. Make sure you watch Dubbs, Anders and Over 440 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: on FanDuel TV and check out Mike so much over 441 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: on VSON. Two of the best in the business govern 442 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of sports everything. But it's hard to find 443 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: people as good at horse racing as these two guys, 444 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: so it was great to get not one, but both 445 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: of them on the show today. Hopefully we'll get you 446 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: for more horse racing uff throughout the year and next 447 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: year's Derby as well. So everybody go out there enjoy 448 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby one hundred and fifty very special celebration. 449 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure that'll do it for us, but the story 450 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: of the game goes on for Mike and Dubbs. 451 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: I'm Joey p. 452 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: We'll see you next time. 453 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Kids. 454 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to the Betting Pros podcast. If you 455 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: love the show, the best freeway to support us is 456 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: by leaving a positive review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. 457 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: Follow us on x and TikTok at Betting Pros and 458 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: Instagram at Betting Pros NFL. 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