1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: This is the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Happy Broadcasting live 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Brought 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: to you by Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: percent or more on car insurance and by SWBC Mortgage 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Financial Solutions to help you meet your personal and business goals, 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: visit SWBC dot com. Now your host, Kevin Turner. All right, 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: we've almost made it to the weekend. Wednesday night is 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: a good night here at the Happy Hour, brought to 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: you by SWBC Mortgage. We are in the Cowboy Club 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a little fun tonight as we 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: always do every Wednesday night on one oh five three 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: The Fan locally also the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. I 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: am Kevin kat Turner from the Ben and Skin Show 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: on one oh five three The Fan, and I've got 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: an incredible panel tonight that I had nothing to do 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: with scheduling, and I'd like to introduce them all and 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: we will start with the man right across from me, 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Dallas Cowboy legend, Ray Field right is 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: in the house. My goodness, yes, and this positive energy 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: is vibing everywhere. Absolutely. Also, we have from Dallas Cowboys 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: dot Com. Give it up for Dave Hellman. Hey, Katie, 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: what's up man? How you doing it? I'm doing amazing, Dave. 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: Good to see you again. Thanks Dave a secret admirer 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: of the LSU Tigers. So it's out there. Okay, it's 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: out there. We also have Lindsay Draper in the house. 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: All right, Prince, Hello, Lindsay. How are you? Um? Thanks 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: for joining us again. It was very fun last time 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: we were on the panel. Much fun. I'm glad we 29 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: get RJ this time. All right, through the ringer, that's right, 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: the co host of the Sean and r J Show, 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: or one of the co hosts of the shan J Show. 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: To me, you know, to me's the guy the straw 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: that stirs the drink on that show. It is r 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: J Choppy, five thirty to ten on one oh five 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: through the fan. Give it up for Choppy. And we're 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: not talking college well with me? Yes, tough year for Tennessee. 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Tough year for Tennessee happens to everybody. Well, it's Wednesday night, 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: and generally how we start the show as we? Uh we? 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: First of all, I know what I do is I'd 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: like to take a sip of my beverage because it 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: is the Happy Hour brought to you by s WBC Mortgage. 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: But we generally try to put last week's game to bed, okay, 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: and then move on to the next game. All right, 44 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: So uh we'll start it off there. Um, I'll start 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: with I'll start with you, Lindsey when when watching that game, 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: I know they got off to a count to an 47 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: ugly start, but to me, I walked away from the 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: game going I'm not terribly concerned about anything, like, I 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: feel like everything's still fine. I know there's a lot 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: of fans would have burned the city down when you 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: have a tough loss like that. I didn't. I wasn't 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: concerned or anything. I feel fine moving forward. I don't 53 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: know if I feel fine, Katie David. Actually, I were 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: actually talking about this earlier. It seems like the Cowboys 55 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: through those first three weeks got away with a ton 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: of mistakes, and then you realize in the next two 57 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to do those same things 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: that you did. So I don't feel good until I 59 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: see a game against a good team with those things 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: cleaned up. I don't know how I feel right now. 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: It's a big question mark over my head. I would 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: agree with that. It's I keep thinking about it in 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: terms of like school, you know, like the Saints game. 64 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: You take a test. Some tests are really hard. Maybe 65 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: you don't ace it. You know that that's the way 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: life goes. The patter days, the easy ones. I well 67 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: needed to die. But that's beside the point. But the 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: Packers game felt like a test that they didn't ace 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 1: because they didn't study enough, you know what I mean, 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Like sloppy minus three interns could have done so much better, 71 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Like could have been cleaner on offense, few returnovers, could 72 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: have played the run better on defense. It just it 73 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: didn't feel like we got their best effort. For lack 74 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: of a better term, I mean, and that happens too, 75 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: But I felt better about losing to the Saints than 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: the Packers. That's just me, yeah, you know, and for me, 77 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: like my concern level is the first half the last 78 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: three games. If combined for thirteen points in the first 79 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: half over the last three, that to me is is 80 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: something that like it's not a concern, but it's it's 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: it's a worry. It's like, okay, put it over there, 82 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: keeping the back pocket, remember it and figure out why 83 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: why are they starting slow? Because this is a team 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: that when they've put their playbook in, their plan in 85 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: and they've had those scripted plays, they've dominated. If they've 86 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: scored first drives a lot of times. Over the last 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: few years, they've scored a lot in the first half, 88 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: it's been the third quarter that's been a struggle. But 89 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: this year it's the first half. I also think it's 90 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: uh when you're missing big time players like a Tyrant Smith. 91 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: I can imagine the Cowboys of years past if they 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: were missing a ray Field, right, that would impact the 93 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: offense quite a bit, right, Well, you never know, you know, 94 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: the offensive line is a very key part, you know, 95 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: of every game, every team, and it's very important. A 96 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand exactly about what the offensive 97 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: line is really and truly all about, you know, and 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: when you look at UH players, the offensive line. To me, 99 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: because I was an offensive laman an offensive lineman, the 100 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: line is like a uh. You could have the the 101 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, the most beautiful car in the world. Okay, 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: and without an engine in that automobile, where's that car going? 103 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: It's just gonna stand. It's just gonna sit there, right 104 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: so you gotta put the engine in that automobile. Put 105 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: the car the move right. And that's what the offensive 106 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: line is all about, is putting that engine into the offense. 107 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: And that's what really makes it go. You know, Uh, 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: offense wins ball games, but defense wins championships. And that's 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: why you have your concerned about the defense is going 110 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: to say beautiful showing by them on Sunday. You know 111 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: what's the thing though, Like so again, it's like immediately 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: freak out every time there's a loss. Okay, and that happens, 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: and I'd take a lot of pride in just trying 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: to stay okay. Would I sit there, be stoic about it? 115 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: And then uh yeah, try to be very rational. The 116 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: seasons are way too long to ride the ups and 117 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: downs of them. Like you can't get away with that. 118 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: You'll exhaust yourself. I didn't like just the immediate oh 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: this little the defense sucks. Now, well did did you 120 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: see what they did the Saints last week? But you're 121 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: still the stuff the Saints from scoring a touchdown. They 122 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: bottled up Alvin Kamara, one of the best players in 123 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: the league. That's part of what bothers you, though, isn't 124 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: it is like which not all respect intended to Aaron Jones. 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: He's a very good football player, yeah, but he's not 126 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: as good as Alvin Kamara. Yeah, and you know Aaron 127 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: Rodgers is part of that. You're gonna play against the 128 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: Packers a little bit different than differently than you do 129 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. But twelve missed tackles, one hundred and nine 130 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: rushing yards, I mean these are like that's the stuff again, 131 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: like sloppy. You gotta play better than that against good 132 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: competition if you want to expect the stack wins. Somehow, 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones led the league in yards pro tempt last year, 134 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: like you wouldn't think of it, but five is he 135 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: is a really good player. I'm not trying to him. 136 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: But if you can do it against Camari, you should 137 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: be able to have more success against Aaron Jones. Well, 138 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: it's very interesting, becase you'll have another one, another good 139 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: running back next week in Leavy on Bill. We'll talk 140 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: about that and just a little bit and nothing I 141 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: want to throwing on the defense. Though you look at 142 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: the wide receivers for Green Bay, they basically were absent 143 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: the whole game. I think there's just four catches from 144 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers. I thought the coverage was fine. I didn't 145 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: think there were any issues in the secondary. I mean, 146 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: there were a couple of things you can nitpick, of course, 147 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: but I thought the secondary did a pretty good job. 148 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: I thought the difference in that game quite frankly, but 149 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: aside from the turnovers, which is very obvious you can't 150 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: turn the ball over three times and win very often, 151 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: is that Aaron Rodgers was extending plays and it's like, Okay, 152 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: he's a superhuman in this building for some reason, and 153 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: we can't stop it. That was what I was. That 154 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: was kind of my big takeaway. I think for me, 155 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: it's I almost I know fans maybe don't want to 156 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: hear this, but like I just I just give that 157 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers, like he's just gonna do that, and 158 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what all. I don't know how you 159 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: stop it, Like you just said, like the shovel pass, 160 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: like DeMarcus Lawrence was about to eat him alive, and 161 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: he dumps this little shovel off to the running back 162 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: and it goes for twelve yards. He breaks contain on 163 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: the pocket and floats this ball to the backup tight end, 164 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: not even Jimmy Graham. Uh, he's gonna make plays like that. 165 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: It's the routine plays that you have to stop, and 166 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: that's what they didn't do. Like Aaron Rodgers is gonna 167 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: make his plays. Yeah, it's the basic stuff you got 168 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: to stop to compensate for that and also winning winning 169 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: the turnover battle probably elp. Yeah, when he's in the pocket, 170 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: I mean he's not a Like, part of what makes 171 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: him so good is his ability to improvise and do 172 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: those crazy plays like he did after the first like 173 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: eleven pass attempts. He was pretty average in that game, 174 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: but the first eleven it was, Oh, that's Aaron from 175 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: like twenty ten, Like, that's that's a different Aaron Rodgers 176 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: that we've seen. Uh, Ray philis for you? Are you? 177 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: Are you locked in pretty much every Sunday, Ray to 178 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: go when it's game time and luck Dion watching every game. Well, 179 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'm a cowboy, you know, and 180 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: I've been a cowboy and I'm a cowboy for all 181 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: of my life, the rest of my life. So I 182 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: want to see the club play well. I want to 183 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: see him do good, and I want to see him 184 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: win ball games, you know. And you know, I'm always 185 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: excited about when the Cowboys are playing because it makes 186 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: me it does something for me as a player. Yeah, 187 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That kind of raises my 188 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: blood pressure. You might want to say, I want to 189 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: go back this earth. I want to go back and 190 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: get my heaven and fasten my chest trap. That's what 191 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: I want to do, you know, But uh no, man, 192 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: it's uh. It's awesome to be at the games. And 193 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: I am at the games, you know, especially conference games. 194 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm there, man, and I'm there and I'm cheering, and 195 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, I want to g as to play well 196 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: and do well. And you know, it's uh, you know, 197 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: it's really interesting because in a lot of in a 198 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: lot of ways, because you bring into a lot of 199 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: different things. You bring into UH confidence, you bring into 200 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: UH commitment, dedication, you bring all those things in and 201 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: they come in from the beginning of training camp, even 202 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: before training camp. They come into play you know, and 203 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: and and and out of all the different players from 204 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: around the country. You have to bring those playoffs together 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: and they have to become one. And that's where your 206 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: success come from. And you know, I think this team 207 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: has done I think that the rapport and said the 208 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: locker room is awesome. It probably has been fun for years, 209 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: it seems like, but it's been really good this year. 210 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: It felt like you're at least training camp going forward. 211 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: It's always felt like a pretty good locker room from 212 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, I mean they're really from the time. Yeah, 213 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna say from the time dakin Ze kind 214 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: of took over, you're gonna changed. That's not to say 215 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: it was bad in the years before that, but a 216 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: young core all coming in at the same time, you know, Lawrence, Jalen, 217 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: vander Esh, your defensive stars are all similar age coming 218 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: at the same time. Obviously dakin Ze coming in at 219 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: the same time. I think it's it's paid dividends for them, 220 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: and that's you know, I'm not super worried about a 221 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: two game losing streak. I don't think we're gonna learn 222 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: a lot if they beat the Jets. But I'm positive 223 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: that they're not sweating it, and I think that's that's 224 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: something to keep in mind. But we have to understand change. 225 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: You know, change has been very important because you're going 226 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: to get it anytime you in any competitive business. Yeah, 227 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, there's change, and I think with the change 228 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: has taken place right now. I think the young gas 229 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: and they are gas that are stepping up, that are 230 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: becoming leaders, which is going to spread out to the 231 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: other players and they're going to begin to really look 232 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: up to these leaders that's coming and they're going to 233 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: pay attention to them because these young guys is coming up. 234 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they are very talented, they are very skillful, 235 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: and they're going to make this difference in the Dallas 236 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: Cowboys coming up. That's right, and you know, we'll talk 237 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more about that. We'll be talking a 238 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: little bit about the Jets game. But next, I want 239 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: to go off a tweet that I saw from Lindsay 240 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Draper just a little we do have to talk about 241 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: before we finally put the game to rest. We do 242 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: have to talk about one of the more dramatic moments 243 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: from Sunday's game involving the head coach. That's next on 244 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: the Happy Hour, brought to you by s WBC Mortgage 245 00:12:50,120 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. M back to the 246 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Happy Hour, broadcasting live from 247 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: the cow Boys Club at the Star in Frisco. That's right, 248 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: We do it every Wednesday night on the Dallas Cowboys 249 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: Radio Network. Also one oh five three The Fan at 250 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: seven pm, the Happy Hour, And thank you to s 251 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage from making it happen beautiful night inside the 252 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Cowboy Club. I'm Kevin kat Turner. Tonight it's r J Choppy, 253 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: Lindsay Draper, Dave Hellman, and of course Hall of Famer Rayfield. Right. 254 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me here. Ray Phield Right, 255 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: you've seen it all, man, We've seen it all, and 256 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: this goes back. I will be honest before I would 257 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: ever know, because I believe, I believe your final year 258 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL was nineteen eighty correct, that is correct, 259 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: And I was born personally in nineteen eighty eight. Oh my, 260 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, baby, So technically I'm really not but 261 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: when were you born seventy nine? We got some overlap here? 262 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, there's there's an overlap. That's right, but yes 263 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: it is. You can't following cover the team without and 264 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: know about you and know about your history. What are 265 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: some of your favorite memories you're looking back to? And 266 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: I know it's a long career, what are some of 267 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: your favorite memories looking back at? Oh? My goodness, man, 268 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: I tell you what, there's so many memories that I have. 269 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: You know. I remember coming to the Cowboys being drafted 270 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: in the seventh round and I was drafted as a 271 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: tight end, and I played tight end for my first 272 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: two years. You got hands, yeah, I got great hands. 273 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: But I was a basketball player. I couldn't even make 274 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: the high school football team. That's it is correct. So 275 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I was a basketball player in this And when I 276 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: went to college and what to call a basketball athletic scholarship, 277 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: and I thought I was there just to play basketball. 278 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: But being in on an athletic scholarship, they said, hey, 279 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: you got to play two sports. And I said, what 280 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: are you talking about? Then they said, okay, choose. So 281 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: I chose football, and I became a tight end even 282 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: though I played free safety, defensive end, in offense, and 283 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: tight end. So the Cowboys drafted drafted me as a 284 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: tight end back in sixty seven and just happened to 285 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: be that was the Ice Bowl year Green Bay and 286 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: I played in the Ice Bowl in Green Bay in 287 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty seven. Cold, you know, And was it cold? 288 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know when you eight teen a 289 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: little zero, Yeah, it's pretty cold. Chiff back at thirty 290 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: two below. But how do you stay warm? Well, you 291 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: try to stay warm. Well, you gotta have you gotta 292 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: have on more than long Johns. I could tell you that. 293 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: But it's it's very difficult to stay It's hard to 294 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: stay warm in an area like that, especially during that time. 295 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I was on special team, and you get off the field. 296 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: You're rundown on special teams, and you come back and 297 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: you have to wait to the offense and defense to 298 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: that thing, you know what I'm saying. And if you 299 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: get the opportunity, you get back out on the field again. 300 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: And especially when they when the opposite team cut the 301 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: heat off the side of it was a little less 302 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: regulated back then. Absolutely, man. But you know, I had 303 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: a tremendous career with the Dallas Cowboys, and you know, 304 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: I'm a cowboy and I will be a cowboy the 305 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: rest of my life, even after I'm going I'm still 306 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: a Dallas you know. And we had a we had 307 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: a great coach, and you know, he taught us a 308 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of different things, you know, and you know, and 309 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: these are some of the you know, qualities that you 310 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: look back at some of the players that played the 311 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: game back in those days because we had a lot 312 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: of rules in the game back then, and some of 313 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: the rules were good, someone was bad. In other words, 314 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: we had rules, but we didn't have rules. You're saying 315 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't instant. There wasn't instant replaybacks debating about what 316 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: was a catch, but it was. It was a lot 317 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: of fun, you know. And after us stop about join 318 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: the club. Two years after I got now and UH, 319 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: coach Landry Uh called in his office and said, Greatfield, 320 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move you the offense said tackle. And I 321 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: thought he was crazy because I never played it, you know, 322 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: offensive tackle before. And I said, well, okay, coach, you 323 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: tell me what I need to do, what you want 324 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: me to do, how you want me to do it, 325 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: and I'll do it. Yeah. I don't know if a 326 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: lot of players would do that that way out these days. Well, 327 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: you know a lot of players the way it is today, 328 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of players today specialize in one position. Yeah, 329 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, and they uh, that's what they specialize in, 330 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: and that's what they play, which is nothing wrong with that, 331 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But back in the day, 332 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: there were athletes and there there's a difference between a 333 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: great player and an athlete. And a lot of people 334 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: don't understand that because a great player, which takes nothing 335 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: away from his ability, Right, a great player plays one position. 336 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: An athlete can play anything, any position. I was a 337 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: tight end, I was a defensive end. I was I was. 338 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: I played even free safety in college. Yeah, and I 339 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: couldn't even make the high football team a free safety 340 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: or a strong safety. I mean, the biggest, baddest safety 341 00:21:54,280 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: in the county. Well you know, oh my god, Well 342 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: there is footage I can take a liberty ktem I'm 343 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm curious about all right, You're you're a Hall of 344 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Fame offensive tackles, incredible career. Cowboys have two pretty good 345 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: offensive tackles right now. Smith, Yes, Lyle Collins. They're two 346 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: of the quietest guys I've ever met. Like, they're incredible players. 347 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: They play with a mean streak, but they're just quiet giants. Yes, 348 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: what type of player were you like? Were you like 349 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: that or were you just like a nasty, trash talking 350 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: well son of a guy that work? Tell us the truth? 351 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: You want to know the truth? You know? Offensive Laman 352 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: Believe me, a lot of pretty humble guys. They're very 353 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: humble guys. And you don't hear a lot of trash talking, 354 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, on the field, in the field of play. 355 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: You hear that from the defensive standpoint. Okay, the defensive 356 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: lineman and the linebackers are the one that talked the 357 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: hard talk, the dirt and the nast the talk. And 358 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: I'll give you a good example of that. Who was 359 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: the best okay, the best well as far as I 360 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: was concerned, the first chance that I had the chance 361 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: to start in the National Football League, uh was against 362 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: the La Rams and I had to face a guy 363 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: that was the most feared defensive in in the National 364 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: Football League, and that was David Deacon Jones. I don't 365 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: know whether you guys ever heard of him quite a 366 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: bit about the guys are very young. Oh absolutely, man, 367 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: And uh it was legal then, but today it's not legal. 368 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, man, Uh, I never will forget 369 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: the first player of the ball game, my quarterback call 370 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: to play. We go up to the line of scrimmage 371 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: and looking at Deacon Jones square in his eyes, his 372 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: eyes has read as fire man and he's kicking his 373 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: back leg like a bull. And you know when a 374 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: bull start kicking his leg, what he's gonna do he's 375 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: coming right, so and that's exactly what happened, and the 376 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: ball is gonna be snapped on too. And our quarterback 377 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: says Hutt and then has a little pause before the 378 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: second hut. Right in that little pause, offensive lambing the 379 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: talk to listen, yeah, okay, to hear, because they the 380 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: quarterback can call a color number and change the play 381 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: that was called in the hall, right, okay, So I'm listening. 382 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Then remember this my first play in the National Football League. 383 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm worried. It's amazing, and I'm listening, okay, And here 384 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: goes in that little pause, I hear a boss, and 385 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't our quarterbacks boss. It was Deacon Jones voice. 386 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: And know what he did. He asked me a question, 387 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: and his question was if you knew deep like I 388 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: know one. Okay. He has this very deep voice, and 389 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: he said, what do your mama know? You out here? 390 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: When the second hut cane? I froze, Man, I'm stealing 391 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: my stance everybody else carrying out that play. I didn't 392 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: know what was going on. And if you're talking about 393 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: that head slap, I got it. So you learned a 394 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: lesson very early in your career. That's that's what started me. 395 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: You know that. That was the first time I ever 396 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: started in the National Football League. That's what happened to me. 397 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: And he knocked me back on my back past quarterback. Man. 398 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling that the play was over. I roll over 399 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: looked at Coach Lander, thinking he's gonna take me out 400 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: of the game. He turned his back room and I 401 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: was a lot. I'm in this one by myself. Then 402 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: he reached his big arms down there to help me 403 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: up off my back and he says something mess to me. 404 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: He said, hey, rookie, welcome to the NFL, and I sold, 405 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: my god, what is this? I think they called out 406 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: a baptism by fire. I also like the random challenge 407 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: for all of our listeners now to just uh, if 408 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: you run into a person and say, hey, is your mamma? 409 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: Know you're out that beautiful I'm gonna tell you what happened. 410 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: After all the game was over. Everything I ended up 411 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: getting the game ball. I was the MVP of the 412 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: game turned around. That's amazing me out of the right 413 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: tickle I never saw and that's how my career started. 414 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: That's amazing. You get the gad I'm here yeah, that's 415 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: that's what was happening, you know, and that the Hall 416 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: of Fame. I asked, here's what I ask him. You 417 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: won't believe this, I said, Dick, let me ask yourself. Man, 418 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: because he's watching films and study him. I used to 419 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: see the head slap coming on offensive tackles, and there 420 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: him on the flower ten feet in now, man, and 421 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: this is real, mum, that's what I'm talking about. It 422 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: It was so heaven. I said, tell me the truth, man, 423 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: did you guys ever place anything in your hand, in 424 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: the palm of your hand to hit guys outside the head? 425 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: And he looked at me and laughed, and uh, he said, 426 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: leving Raphael, you really want to know, I said, yeah, 427 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: I want to know, man, Oh my god. But there 428 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: were players back in those days, in the early days 429 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: of the NFL that would put rolls of corns. They 430 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: will put a little piece of still right in the 431 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: palm of their hand and they tape it up so 432 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: that helmet straight helle the officials. All I can think 433 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: about hearing that is that Dak got a roughing the 434 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: passer call because somebody tapped his help right. But nowadays 435 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: that's like assault with the deadly weapon charges. Yeah, that 436 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: might be. We had rules, but we didn't have rules, right. 437 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: We gotta take a quick break. I want to talk 438 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about how it's changed from back then 439 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: and how it is now. I do specifically we have 440 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: to talk about the flag thing with Jason Garrett's Okay, 441 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: we can go on the Happy Hour, brought to you 442 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: by s WBC Mortgage on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network 443 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: m the s WBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Happy Hour broadcasting 444 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Yes, 445 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: that is correct. It is a beautiful Wednesday night here 446 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys Club. It is the Happy Hour brought 447 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: to you by s WBC Mortgage. I'm Kevin K. T. Turner, 448 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: joined by r J. Choppy, Hi, Lindsay Draper, and Dave 449 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: Ellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Hey dude, and of 450 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: course ray Field. Right now, we were good to talk 451 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: about something that happened in Sunday's game, but also how 452 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: it might relate to the days of the past. I 453 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about it, ray Field. Back 454 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: in the day, you were not having uh, instant video, 455 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: instant replay or you know, video review or things like that. 456 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: And then we saw on Sunday Jason Garrett, you know, 457 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: kind of got into it with the referee, with the 458 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: challenge flag issue and and all of that stuff. Well, you're, 459 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: first of all, before we get started, your initial just 460 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: thoughts on the idea that they have instant replay? Would 461 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: they be better off without it? Do you think or 462 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: what do you what do you think? Well, with the 463 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: way that things are going the day in the official world, Okay, 464 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: things are happening so fast and the calls are being 465 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: made so fast, Yeah that you know they're on this 466 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: stays that are made, no question about it. Then the 467 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to challenge those mistakes, in your eyes, should be present, 468 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: and they are present. And that's what happened on Sunday. 469 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: You know, there was some things happening that the coach 470 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't really agree with, and you know, by the flag 471 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: he had an opportunity to challenge that those calls, and 472 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: that's what as a head coach you have that opportunity 473 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: to do that, and that's what he did. N I know, 474 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: Lindsey wants to get again in our soapbox here. I 475 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: know you're ready to go in. I saw you tweeting, 476 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: and you asked Jason about all this. So yeah, Dave 477 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: was there too. We love the walk on. We can 478 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: dive in a little with him a little bit more 479 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: after the press conferences. But yeah, he was so upset 480 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: because he knew he was gonna have to use it. 481 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: Yet he said, the entire sideline, all the coaches that 482 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: jumped out there, they all saw Amri speed and bound. 483 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: So he's like, why do I have to use my 484 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: flag when we all saw it? Why didn't you see it? 485 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: So that was where the frustration came from. He said 486 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: something else though, Yeah, he said apparently it was. Yeah, 487 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: he said he used a foul word with football field 488 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: that's never happened before. No, I mean it's funny to 489 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: me though. It's like I set this on Monday. If 490 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: a player had drawn that flag, we would be talking 491 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: about how he like cost the team and this and that, 492 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: and like, nothing makes fans madder than when a player 493 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: does something bone headed. This is true, but Jason Garrett 494 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: is so even keeled and so stoic. You know, fans 495 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: get so mad that he just stands there and collapsed 496 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: that him getting that mad made everybody happy. Yes, Jason 497 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: get pissed off. You're the best something dying to see 498 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: this for years. We have Kellen More to be held back. 499 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: It was an amazing Specially Kellen Moore and Christoph hard 500 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: were flanking him like bodyguards. They're like coming at us. 501 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: First time Kellen Moore held anybody consperiously. He's not this 502 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: big guy, but we have we have the privilege. You know, 503 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: me and Lindsay work in the building. We've seen a 504 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: little bit more of Jason Garrett than than maybe the public. 505 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: So it's not super surprising to me. But I think 506 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: it's it's fun that, you know, fans that want to 507 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: see that out of him. I guess you got it 508 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: way to go. And I don't know if you saw this, 509 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: but like you know, Aaron Rodgers did the same thing 510 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: to an official in the same game, just berated him, 511 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: same kind of language. Nothing. If you don't like profanity, 512 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: the NFL's your game. Well, an NFL field, it's just 513 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: not a place for you. Well, and I think the 514 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: big question was apparently it was from the Anthony Brown 515 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: situation earlier that Jason had words with that official, and 516 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: then everyone's wondering, well, did that have any bearing on 517 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: the fact that you threw a flag because it shouldn't. 518 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: Keep in mind too, and for the record, the pass 519 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: interference challenged system seems like a joke to me. Oh, 520 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it would have worked, but I hate it. 521 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: If that hadn't happened, If Garrett hadn't had to challenge that, 522 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: he could have challenged the Kevin King interception. Yeah, that's 523 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: why we want to talk about head slaps with Deacon 524 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: Jones and mister Rayfield. Right here, Kevin King was slapping 525 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: the heck out of Michael Gallum's helmet so it was 526 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: fell forward on the ground. He might have had a case. 527 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't think he would have won because I think 528 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: that rule is a joke, but we'll never know because 529 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: he had to use his challenge on that pass. Rayfield, 530 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: have you ever seen an official getting mad and throw 531 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: a flag because of something that was said? Because to me, 532 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: I just kind of thought like that stuff just doesn't 533 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: happen in football. There's something seems like it happens in baseball. 534 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: It truly happens in football, no question about it. Uh. 535 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: You know they is right and there is wrong. There's 536 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: justice and they's in juice. Okay, you can take that 537 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: in the way you want to take sure all right, 538 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, you know the way that the officials are 539 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: you you you you know, they are human, and yeah, 540 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: when you're human, you're gonna make mistakes. And these guys 541 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: make a lot of mistakes. They seemed to be making 542 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: more mistakes today than they made yesterday. And that is 543 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: something that gives the coaches the opportunity to challenge these mistakes. 544 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: And they are new rules that have come in the game. 545 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: Uh in challenging the players in doing certain things. You know, 546 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: it's almost like the players on his way in for 547 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: a touchdown and saying, hey, come on, yeah, I mean 548 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: you know what is that about? You know what I mean? Technical? 549 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely right? Hey, you pay players, you know you play right, 550 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: wide receivers to catch passes, score touchdowns, right, You pay 551 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: running backs to run the ball and score touchdowns. Right, 552 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: pay to get it right, and you can go through 553 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: the whole system. Offensive lineman, you pay them the block 554 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: right and protect your quarterback. Defense. You plan, you know, 555 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: to stop the other opposing team. That's why you pay them. 556 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: So you know, you uh, you expect these you know, 557 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: players to do that job. You don't have to broadcast 558 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: making a tackle. You don't have to broadcast scoring the 559 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: testdown because you have paid to do that. That's really interesting. 560 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: That's the way we came That's the way I came 561 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 1: through the system, you know what I'm saying. So trying 562 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: to make top ten was doing the day, you know 563 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's right, that's when the game first 564 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: came out into you know, the system itself, you know, 565 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: and it was real. I'm not saying that it's not 566 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: real the day, but you know, it was really truly 567 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: real back in the day, back in the sixties and 568 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: the seventies, and a lot of fans understood it, and 569 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: some did and that's why so many fans was so 570 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: happy to see Jason come out like he came out, 571 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, because he hadn't came out like that. But 572 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: you go back to George Allen, you go back to 573 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: all these guys, he said, coaches back in the in 574 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: the past. You'll see that come out of these guys. 575 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: And what some fans may like, kill Jason Ford just 576 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: kind of being even kill or you could you could 577 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: argue that as a strength. That's why it was so 578 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: uncharacteristic characteristic for dapping the way it happened. It was 579 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: probably good for the team, but they were coming back 580 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: in the way they had the momentum they were coming back, 581 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: and that game was dangerous. But it was just so 582 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: out of character for him to kind of lose his cool. 583 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: And you know, technically the first challenge, I mean, I 584 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: know he had, Yeah, he had to do it. Also 585 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: asked Jason about you know, if you go back. You 586 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: saw the clip in SloMo that they're kind of arguing 587 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: hit he and a referee and he said, we'll throw 588 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: the flag then, yeah, And so I was like, did 589 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: he bait you into that? And of course he said 590 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: no he didn't, But still I think if you go 591 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: so I throw it, then his responses are predicated on 592 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: the fact that he can get fine. We can't get fine. 593 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: Now maybe I'm can't get fine. You have you guys 594 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: ever played blackjack? Yeah, a little bit. I'd like to 595 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: go to win Star played blackjack, and sometimes the black 596 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: jack dealer will will help you if there's a there's 597 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: the best and they'll tell you best. I kind of 598 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: thought the ref because you could read the ref slips 599 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: he said he the quarterback. He said he didn't play 600 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: the ball, and I thought the ref was kind of 601 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: doing the blackjack dealer think for Jason, say don't throw 602 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: the flag. We're not going to overturn it. He didn't 603 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: play the ball. I thought that's what he was doing. 604 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: So I was so. I was frustrated that Jason threw 605 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: the flag, but I did understand that was a twenty 606 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: one point games are that's such a good analogy, like 607 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: a black track here, like are you sure you want? 608 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: And that's where? But yeah, so, but I was so, 609 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the first challenge. But he did 610 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: what he had to do. Yeah, he really did. And 611 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: you have to understand and you have to know you 612 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: know that change. Change is taking place, and change take 613 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: place for a reason, and the most important reason is 614 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: is safety. While the players that are playing the game, 615 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, and it's not like yesterday, but it's today. 616 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: Safety is truly, you know, important, not just too on 617 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: the professional side, but when you get to the collegiate 618 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: side and you get down the high school and you 619 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: get down to the pewee league, you gotta deal with safety. 620 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: And that's one of the serious things that it's going 621 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: on the day. Based on all of the issues that 622 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: have taken place in the past with players. Yea, so 623 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: we have to consider that, no question about used to 624 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: be one of the first things. We consider it. Absolutely. 625 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: But we want to win and I think we will 626 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday. But let's talk a little bit about the 627 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: game against the Jets. I got a couple of the 628 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: questions for your ray Field. I think everyone's gonna find 629 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: very entertaining. That is coming up next on the Happy 630 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 1: Hour damn my s WBC Mortgage on the Dallas Cowboys 631 00:42:29,360 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: Radio Network. M back to the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys 632 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: Happy Oh broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the 633 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Thank you very much, announcer man, I'm 634 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Turner with RJ. Choppy, Lincy Draper, Dave Helmett and 635 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: ray Field Rights in the house. Yeah, thank you. All right, 636 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: all right, let me ask you a question, Ray phild As, 637 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame offensive tackle, who is the greatest 638 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 1: pass rusher in Dallas Cowboys history? Oh? My god, the 639 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: guy you would at least want to, I guess, go 640 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: toe to toe with. Are you talking about with the Cowboys? 641 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: That the pass rusher of the Cowboys? Yeah, that I 642 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: practiced against every day. Oh is this who you're picking 643 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: right anybody. No, No, you gotta go back to guys 644 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 1: like uh, Harvid Margins right and two Tall Jones. Okay, 645 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,919 Speaker 1: these guys was really tough. But there's one thing that's 646 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: interesting about this, and that is how great those guys were. 647 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: I had faced some of the best defensive ends in 648 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: the game, from Deacon Jones, Bubba Smith, Carl Ella, Claude, Humphrey, 649 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: Jack young Blood, L. C. Greenwood. These the guys I 650 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: blocked every year. Yeah, okay, And I knew that moves 651 00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: and everything, okay. And I used to show Now, you 652 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: stay after practice and work with Harvey and too Tall 653 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: and show them some of their moves that they made. 654 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 1: And I used to work with them, and they used 655 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 1: to work with me, and they helped me as much 656 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: as I helped them. Okay. So if I if I 657 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: had to play against any other defensive then outside outside 658 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, I would rather go back to the 659 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys because Harvey Martin got Utah Jones. Uh. Those guys 660 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: were tough and they didn't slap in the hunting they 661 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: did well, they didn't they You know, back then, you 662 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: couldn't grab the offensive line. The defensive line just couldn't 663 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: grab you and hold you and it becomes a wrestling match, 664 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know you couldn't do that. 665 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: That's fifteen more hand fighting. Then, yeah, there's more hand 666 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: fat hand fighting, slapping upside the head, you know, doing 667 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: different things because all these defensive ends back in those days, 668 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: they were all different, and you have to study these guys. 669 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 1: You know, you couldn't. You can't block one of these 670 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: guys the same way that you blocked the next guy, 671 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: because some was big, strong, others was fast, other was quick, 672 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: others were for nesse. Jack Young Glove was finesse, you 673 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you had to study these 674 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: guys and you couldn't reach out and grab them and 675 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: hold them and become a wrestling match. You just couldn't 676 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: do that. I think it's interesting what you said, because 677 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: I remember when I started covering the team, at least 678 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: it was DeMarcus ware working with Tyrn Smith, and then 679 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: it was Tyren Smith working with DeMarcus Lawrence, and then 680 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: it was DeMarcus Lawrence working with Lyle Collins and all 681 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: these things back and forth, right, And maybe that's the 682 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: thing that's been happening in football for years, but I 683 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: always love that type of stuff. And you just see 684 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: the torch get passed, if you will. And these guys 685 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: are helping each other, especially at those positions, more so 686 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 1: than any other. Absolutely, well, that's what makes it happen. 687 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: That's what prepares you. The game itself is eighty percent 688 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: mill yeah, and only twenty percent physically, So it's a 689 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: mill aspect of the game that you have to acquire. 690 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: You don't understand what I'm saying. So that's what it is. 691 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: And you gotta understand that I got here in thirteen. 692 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: I tell this story too often, but thirteen I got 693 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 1: It was Tyrant's third year and DeMarcus Ware just whipped 694 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: him up and down the field for the duration of 695 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: training camp, and I remember being like, this guy's responsible 696 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: for Romo's blindside, Like they're not this team's not going anywhere, 697 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,720 Speaker 1: Like it was awful, Like he could not do anything 698 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: with DeMarcus Ware. Turns out DeMarcus wears a Hall of 699 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: Fame Er two. Tyrann Smith's pretty good. He went to 700 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl that year. Yeah, I never forget that. 701 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: Tyrant's fine. Yeah, he's fighting, he's fine. They need Tyring 702 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm interested ray Field as a guy played offics Attackle 703 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: and RJ's my gambling guy here. Right. So the early 704 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: line on the game against the Jets was eight and 705 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: a half points. I believe Cowboys mating a half points. 706 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: But let's say today Tyring didn't practice and Lyle did 707 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: not either one of them practice. If both of those 708 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: guys did not play, how much more concerned would that 709 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: make you? You know, he's playing. If you and the 710 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: and the other art tackle on your plan, that makes 711 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: a huge difference. First of all, you gotta understand that 712 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: Tyring is uh. You know, when I watch a football game, 713 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't watch. The only thing I watched, believe it 714 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: or not, is the offensive line. Yeah, I do believe that. 715 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you Tying excuse my friends, but 716 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: he's a hell of an offensive left tackle, long deadness, 717 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: no question about it, Okay, And you know, it's it's 718 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: unfortunate that he's been injured, you know, as much as 719 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: he has been the last couple of years or so. 720 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you he is a very very good 721 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: office a tackle. Yeah, you know, and I've watched many tackles, man, 722 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: but he's very good and you know, it's it's it's 723 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: very you know. And he's playing a key position, you know, 724 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: on the back side. You know what I'm saying. He's 725 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: playing a bear and key position, and you gotta have 726 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: that on that side. Yeah, that position, you gotta have it. 727 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. I'm taking liberties, but 728 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: like one or both, one or both of them is 729 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna play. I agree. I think Tyron's out there on Sunday. 730 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: I think Lyle they probably take that up to Sunday afternoon. 731 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: It seems ambitious to think he could get out there 732 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 1: six days after spraining his MCL, but he's also basically 733 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: a grizzly bear, so anything's possible. But I think they'll 734 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: have I think they'll at least have Tyrants. The lines 735 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: move to seven, by the way, it's moved to seven. Yeah, 736 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: but Darnold's been officially clear, so I would start or 737 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: a half and it kind of moved down it. I 738 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: would never dream of betting on that game, but like 739 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: the Cowboys will cover that, like they're gonna win by 740 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: a touchdown or war. I think I would think so. 741 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Darnold makes it more interesting, it does, but 742 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: their offensive line doesn't. I've never spent a little bit 743 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: of time watching it over the last two days. It's 744 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: not very good, really really weak on Mono too. I 745 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: had Mono. I don't remember anything about it. Well, that's scary. 746 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 1: I just I had it. But I could give you 747 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: no insight blacked out for a couple of weeks. You 748 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: no insight? Ray, Phil, Did you ever get Mono? No, No, 749 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't either. Think. I don't know how 750 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: you would play with it. I had no idea. He 751 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: apparently he just started doing cardio like last week. He 752 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: has to have lost like at least fifteen pounds, right, 753 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if you really can't do much in your body, 754 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: it just goes weak. That's what I've heard. I mean 755 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: I would just be that's what you've heard, not from experience. No, No, 756 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: I have not had Mono. But it was like a 757 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: thing in high school to watch out for. So yeah, 758 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I know they struggled against the Packers. I 759 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: know they lost in the Saints. They also beat three 760 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: winless teams pretty comfortably. I'm not saying anybody should be 761 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: impressed if they beat the Jets, but they're gonna beat 762 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: the Jets. Like it's like, you know, the Jets before 763 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: the season, their win total was seven and a half. 764 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 1: The Cowboys was eight and a half. Nine. Yeah, if 765 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,399 Speaker 1: the Jets were getting seven and a half, yeah they were, 766 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: why I don't know, I don't know, so like, but 767 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: why were we only getting eight and a half to start, 768 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: because then it went to nine. But still like that 769 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 1: to me was really really low, like somebody's knowing knows 770 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: something that we just don't figure out. But they all 771 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: live in Vegas. They all live in Vegas. But like 772 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,879 Speaker 1: the Jets were thought of as one of those kind 773 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: of a trendy up and coming, up and coming teams. 774 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: Second year quarterback or third year we'll see. Those are 775 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: the kind of teams you really have to watch. Yeah, 776 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: those teams like that, These are teams you we have 777 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: to win the games that were supposed to win. Definitely 778 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: not in harder to get to where we want to go. 779 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: If if they can't find a way to win this one. 780 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: Now I played, Yeah you still played thirteen years and 781 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: uh you know I was in the playoffs twelve of 782 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: my thirteen years and one year we had to win 783 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: eight games at the end toward the end of the 784 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: season to get to the playoffs, and we did. But 785 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: you gotta win the games that you are supposed to win, 786 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: no question about it, because there are tough games and 787 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: I know that we can win those games. And it's 788 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: going to be a fight with the other games because 789 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: both the teams, they are all good teams in the 790 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 1: National Football League today. Believe me. Is it hard as 791 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 1: a player to not look ahead to Oh, it's the 792 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles and the division rivals. It's hard not to 793 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 1: even think about it at all. Where you shouldn't. You shouldn't, 794 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: but if human nature just a little bit. No, when 795 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: we played, we only focused on one game, and that 796 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: was a game we planned. Whether or not that game 797 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: was a game that we should win. Oh, it should 798 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: be a tough game. You have to stay focused on 799 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: the game in which you are playing. You can't look ahead. 800 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: There's fifty three guys on the active roster right now. 801 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable saying less than ten of them know 802 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: who's up next, like they really do live week to week. Yeah, 803 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: I believe that too. I think the coaching staff had 804 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: done a great job in coaching. Oh, this coach staff's 805 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,839 Speaker 1: un tremendous because think about that game that we saw 806 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday that was the basically the exact game that 807 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: got Wade fired in twenty ten. Right, there was an 808 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. They were getting beat one out and 809 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: they quit. They basically, I don't want to say quit, 810 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: but they didn't have a good showing this one. They 811 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: lost forty five to seven. Yeah, thirty one three. They 812 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: made it a game. That's a Jason Garrett team. They 813 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: never quit on him. You know, you don't write that off, guys. 814 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: Looking forward to this week's game. Um, and I'm I'm 815 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: really excited. I had a great time tonight. Uh we 816 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 1: got We're about to have to shut it down though, 817 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: we got, right, ladies and Jones, Okay, thank you man. 818 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: It was awesome hanging out with you tonight. Thank you, Dave, 819 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: Dave Helman and Lindsay. Yeah, we're right downstairs. We're here all. 820 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: I always see you guys all the time. So but 821 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: it's awesome to work with you guys. And of course 822 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: r J. Choppy, I'm coming back again next week in 823 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 1: the week after the Cowboys Let's lock you in. 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