1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: We man our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Our friend 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Alex Bearnson gonna join us at the bottom of the hour, 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: then Mary Catherine Ham in the third hour, two hours 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: left of the week. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. As 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: we are. 8 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: Rolling into Labor Day weekend, I know many of you 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: either already on the roads or potentially going to be traveling. 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Worth mentioning that we are at a four year low 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: in gas prices, you have to go all the way 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: back to I believe, twenty twenty one, and still the 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Democrats are not driving on the interstate era, or if 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: they were, they were wearing masks in their cars by 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: themselves to win. 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: The price of gas was this affordable. 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: So if you factor in inflation as well, which unfortunately 18 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden brought us, it's even better because the average 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: cost of goods have gone up substantially. Yet gas is 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: cheaper now than at any point in the next four years. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: And this is primarily going to be a driving weekend 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: for a lot of people out there. I know people 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: also flying. I'm going to be driving a decent distance 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: and so many of you are as well, So just 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: a good sign there. And as we move into winter, 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I would expect for prices to come down again, as 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: usually you see a bit of a surge in gas 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: prices during the summer because so many people are traveling. 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Cracker Barrel, by the way, is in full on retreat. 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: We may have some fun with that before all is 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: said and done, but I do think it's worth us 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: continuing to share with you some of the basic lies 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: that are being shared with so many people out there 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: relating to what happened in Minneapolis. Most places still not 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: really addressing the fact that this was a trans terrorist 36 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: that took these lives of these innocent kids in Minneapolis, 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: and in fact, they're not even being honest about the 38 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: gender of the person who did this. This was a 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: man pretending to be a woman. CNN is worried about 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: misgendering the shooter such that they keep referring, and so 41 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: does New York Times, so does the Washington Post. They 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: keep referring to this shooter as a her. This is 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: what it sounds like. They won't even tell you who 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: this person was in the context of their own gender, 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: or that the transidentity might have been involved. Here is 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: cut eleven. What you heard on CNN. This is Andrew McCabe. 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: Listen for the mother to not even return to the 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 3: state to answer law enforcement questions, to try to provide 49 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: some assistance. I'm sure she's grieving for her daughter, but 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: this is, Yeah, it's a really perverse and strange element 51 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: in this story. It's inexplicable to me at this point. 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you can hear those there. 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: Inexplicable, Yeah, he says the daughter. They are doing this 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: buck on Emma NBC New York Times. They are refusing 55 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: to say this was a boy. They are claiming that 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 4: it's a girl. They're saying that these parents have lost 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 4: a daughter, meaning the killer. They are worried about misgendering, 58 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: and as a result, they aren't even talking about the 59 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: trans element here. Now, I think the parent discussion should 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: be a part of this. Because they changed the gender 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: of this kid at seventeen years old, I think we 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 4: should be talking in earnest how many different drugs was 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: this kid on. How screwed up did that potentially make 64 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: the mental capacity of the kid, How much did it 65 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: exacerbate what is likely mental illness? Already to be suddenly 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: flooding the body with hormones. 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: Pluck. 68 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Here's something I was thinking about last night as I 69 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: was doing some prep when I got back home late 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: last night. And I know we've touched on it a 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: little bit, but I feel like it's almost verboten to 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: even discuss what is the health impact long term going 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: to be for these trans people as they enter into 74 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: their fifties, their sixties and seventies and start to age 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: and have real health problems as most people do as 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: they age. When you're talking about people with open wounds 77 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: that are constantly flooding their body with hormones, is there 78 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: any way these people are going to have remotely normal 79 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: life spans, It's like you're not allowed to discuss it. 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: But some of these people are so young when they 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: got this done that we haven't really dealt with, Hey, 82 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: what happens when you're sixty five and you had trans surgery. 83 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: These people are going to die decades younger and earlier 84 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: than they otherwise would have. And with the ones that 85 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: they're starting at thirteen and fourteen, I mean, their bodies 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: are never going to fully develop, Their bones are not 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: going to helop. I just get angrier the more I 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: think about this. 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's horrible what has gone on. And part of 90 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: the problem is that a lot of damage has already 91 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: been done, and so the people that are involved in 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: that damage are very unlikely to ever admit what has 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: gone on. Right, Yeah, I mean on the on the 94 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: medical side of things, and the fact that you honestly 95 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 4: I hadn't heard that sound bite yet. The fact that 96 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: this is being done where you have people saying that 97 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 4: a daughter that they that the parents of the shooter 98 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: lost a daughter. This is crazy. Top, Yes, this is crazy. 99 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: This is not acceptable. This is not something we go 100 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: along with. It was a crazy guy who killed children 101 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: and tried to kill a whole lot more. Remember this individual, uh, 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 4: this this mass shooter. It's it's a horrible tragedy that 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: he killed an eight year old and I believe an 104 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: eight year old and a ten year old at prayer 105 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: in a church or walking into a church to pray. 106 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: It could this person, with the guns that he had 107 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: there and the fact that there was an undefended soft target, 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: it could have been so much worse in terms of 109 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: the casualties. And people were hit and they thankfully survived. 110 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: Quick action by the first responders and by emergency rooms 111 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: in the area to save lives. 112 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: But Clay that. 113 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: Anyone would take even a second to worry about the 114 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 4: courtesy of the preferred pronouns of this maniac is itself mononiacal. 115 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: It is absolutely unacceptable. 116 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: And remember this is the former acting director of the FBI, 117 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: So you would think of anyone out there, if you 118 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: are an investigator, you would think that you would want 119 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: to stick to the facts way more than anybody else. 120 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: And the facts are this was a boy trying to 121 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: identify as a girl. The way that he hesitated there 122 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: and the fact that he actually pointed out that the 123 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: mom is not cooperating with authorities is all very strange 124 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: because what it would suggest is that maybe she knew 125 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: that her son was I don't see how she could 126 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: not knew that her son was a potential threat to everyone. 127 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: And so far she is not talking because she is 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: afraid that she might get charged in relationship to the shooting, 129 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: because somehow this crazy person had access to guns. And 130 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: let me just reiterate this all the time. You can 131 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: strongly believe in the Second Amendment, and if you are 132 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: a parent, also understand that your individual kid may not 133 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: need to be in possession of a gun. And I 134 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: don't mean that because you're worried about them shooting up 135 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: other places or killing other people. I mean your kid, 136 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: if they have mental illness, or they have depression, or 137 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: they have some form of psychoactive issue that you are 138 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: aware of as a parent, they shouldn't be around firearms Like. 139 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: This has nothing to do. 140 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: I get so fired up about this because I've got 141 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: three boys, Buck, I just don't believe that in any 142 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: of these mass shooting situations there weren't tons of clues 143 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: that these parents saw and they just pretended that it 144 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: wasn't there, and they let their kids remain in possession 145 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: or in ownership of firearms. 146 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: Right. 147 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: And so I look at this, this mom is hiding. 148 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: It sounds like from investigators not participating in the investigation. 149 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: I think it's probably going to come out that she 150 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: knew her son was a threat both to himself and 151 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: to others, and she just pretended it was going to 152 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: go away. I think that's what's going to come out. Also, 153 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: it's not going to surprise you. But I wanted to 154 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: play this. The WNBA coach in Minneapolis. She has decided 155 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: to weigh in, and she says, hey, we can't tell 156 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: kids anything positive because we don't care about them. This 157 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: is woke WNBA nonsense. But I wanted to play it 158 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: for you too. This is what you might be hearing 159 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: if you were watching CNN or MSNBC. 160 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 5: It's such an indictment of our society and our lack 161 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 5: of regard for life. There are things that we can 162 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 5: do about it, and we know, but for some reason, 163 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 5: as Americans, we value some things different. It's sickening, sad 164 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 5: for the kids. 165 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: Sad for the kids to go up like this, sad 166 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: for kids. I want to the door. I not know 167 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: what's going to happen. Hearts go out to obviously the 168 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: I've lost kids. 169 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 5: That are hurt, the teachers that have to go through this, 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 5: families that drop their. 171 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 2: Kid office schools on parts. 172 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 5: Hearts go out to them. The sad thing is they 173 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 5: can't sit here and tell them that help is on 174 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 5: the way because we're not going to do a damn thing. 175 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: About okay, and she's not talking about doing a damn 176 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: thing about it. As in investigate what's going on with Tran, 177 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: she means she wants all your guns taken away and let's. 178 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: You know, they always want to talk about mental health. 179 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: Should should should being trans bar you from owning a 180 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: buying and owning a firearm. I mean, the left would 181 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: absolutely freak out about that. But are we going to now? 182 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: They want mental health checks, they want this is why again, Yes, 183 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: you can hear the conversation with Trey. I was shocked 184 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 4: at mister Gowdy's uh. I thought he misspoke on which. 185 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Which is how we started that interview with me giving 186 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: him an opportunity to say, upon reflection, because you do 187 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: life radio, you do live TV, you're not perfect. So 188 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: I thought he would address it and take back some 189 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: of it what he said. He did not at all, 190 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: not at all. 191 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: He's like, we need a new law, we need a 192 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: new law that's going to stop people from and I say, okay, 193 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: what's that law going to be as well? If someone's 194 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 4: adjudicated mentally okay, well, first of all, a lot of 195 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 4: places already have something on you know that's similar. The 196 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: problem is adjudicating somebody mentally deficient. The problem is figure 197 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: or you know, mentally incompetent to own but basically a 198 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: danger to themselves and others. What do you think the 199 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: system that we have is going to catch everybody that's crazy. 200 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: Good luck with that one. And what are the what 201 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: are the implications the civil rights and First Amendment and 202 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: other implications of Oh, we're deciding that you're crazy, so 203 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: we're taking away your right. Everybody knows I'm saying this, 204 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: and a lot of you are already nodding your heads. 205 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: Oh, you mean they're going. 206 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: To try to take guns from veterans who have PTSD right, 207 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: because that's going to happen in blue states. You mean 208 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 4: they're going to try to take guns from people. You 209 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: know that a whole range of things. It'll be used 210 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: as a tool, weaponized immediately and right away. And so 211 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: what's the law? And to the point being made here 212 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: by was the w he said was a w nb 213 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: W NBA head coach, Yeah, head coach. Okay, they say 214 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: we know what to do. 215 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: Say what it is? Yeah? 216 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 4: If the whole the whole point here is that people 217 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: get to point at their political adversaries and say they're 218 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: the bad people because they won't do the good thing. 219 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: What's the good thing? What's the thing that we'll say? 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 4: You know, yesterday with Trey I even said, look, we're 221 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: talking about uh putting more arm guards at schools. We're 222 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: talking about maybe having a program that specifically puts veterans 223 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: who have firearms training to protect our kids, to protect 224 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: our houses of worship, a lot of places of armed 225 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: security all over the country. 226 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: Why not protect our kids. 227 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 4: That's something, and that's something that might actually work passing 228 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: a law that that that what that says, if you're 229 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: the most insane, vile lunatic on the planet, you can't 230 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 4: get a gun. 231 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we got to. 232 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: Find out who the insane vile lunatic is before they 233 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: shoot everybody. And that's the part of this that they 234 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: don't even address. They don't even talk about. 235 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I just I ever, any time this happens. I do 236 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: not see this as political. Every single public and private 237 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: school in America should have security guards armed. They're twenty 238 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, every hour that the kids are there. I 239 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: don't understand how this isn't standard operating procedure. I've said it. 240 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: I always think about it in the context of would 241 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: I want this for my kids? And if the answer 242 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: is what I want it for my kids, almost without exception, 243 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: my answer for all of you is going to be 244 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: I want it for your kids and grandkids too. My 245 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: kids public and private school have had armed security. I 246 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: don't understand why the mediate response from this when we 247 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: look at what we spend and waste dollars on, you 248 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: ran through the math. Basically, I mean, this is ten 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: billion dollars a year nationwide that we could put in 250 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: place and say, let's do it. When I look at 251 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: the way that we waste money protecting kids' lives at school, 252 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: young innocent kids, and what every bad guy out there know, Hey, 253 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: there's arms security at this school, because what did we 254 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: see with Covenant. These these evil people are doing stakeouts 255 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: of the schools to see whether or not they're secure, 256 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and if they are, maybe it makes them change their 257 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: minds just a little bit. The bridges is a good 258 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: example this. I was talking about this with my wife 259 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: the other day. You know, they put fences basically higher 260 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: up on bridges to try to limit suicides, and people 261 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: drastically do not commit suicide at the same level when 262 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: they just have to climb up a little bit more 263 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: over the top of a fence or a secure areas. 264 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: Of fences as a security system make it harder slow 265 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: people down. By the way, true with the border as well, 266 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: I've seen at the border people scaling the fence, but 267 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: you know what you see them, it slows them down 268 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: and then you can arrest them on the other side. 269 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 4: It's not that people go if you have a ten 270 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: foot fence, I'll have an eleven foot ladder. Guess who's 271 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: waiting for you on the other side of that fence. 272 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: If it's well constructed and it's double layer and there's 273 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: sensors in place. Border patrol. Yes, all security measures are 274 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 4: imperfect on their own, but that doesn't mean they're not useful. 275 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: And it's certainly useful. I would even advocate for a 276 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: program that says, look, why does conceal carry work so well? 277 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: Clay and a total credit to more guns, less crime. 278 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: John Lott on this. What you find out is that 279 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: it's not that everyone has to conceal carry. It's that 280 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: in places where there is concealed carry, the bad guy 281 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: has to think somebody here might have a gun, and 282 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: that changes the calculation. Sometimes they do and they go 283 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: for it anyway, and then there's a good guy with 284 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: a gun there. But in the school system, if you 285 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: even just had let's say, if a state said, you 286 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: know what, we're going to have a program, some uniform, 287 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: some out of you know, some open carry, some concealed carry. 288 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: Changes the calculation for school shooters inherently, and there's no 289 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: loss of attendant rights. There's no I'm going to harass 290 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: people who are good, people who haven't done anything like 291 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 4: That's the part of it that also has to be 292 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: taken into account. 293 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: I wish if we were going to have a conversation 294 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: nationwide about that's the one we'd go to. It's the 295 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: one that I try to push every single time any 296 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: of these incidents happen. Look talk with any Israeli citizen 297 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: these days, they'll tell you peace and quiet's the top priority. 298 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: No one wants the current conflict in the region to 299 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: go away more than the average person living in Israel. 300 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: But there's still a huge demand for security. Your gift 301 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: to the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews creates new 302 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: bomb shelters across Israel, necessary supplies for those existing bomb 303 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: shelters out there. We know, unfortunately how much all of 304 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: these shelters are going to be needed. Now is the 305 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: time to help Israel's most innocent and most vulnerable. 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Spend time with Clay and 311 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 6: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 312 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 6: get your. 313 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: Podcasts, and welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. 314 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: And I want to remind you please send us your talkbacks, 315 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: your thoughts, all that good stuff, and also call us. 316 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 4: We are live and we love our live callers. So 317 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: let's get to Rob in Oaklahoma. Let's talk Rob. What's 318 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: going on? 319 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 7: Well? I wanted to let you guys know, Buck, you're 320 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 7: discussion with Trey Gaddy. You are brilliant. That guy has 321 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 7: lost his mind. I used to love him. But here's 322 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 7: here's my point is all of the things that we're 323 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 7: talking about are are I agree with you? I agree 324 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 7: with you one hundred percent. Armed security in the in 325 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 7: the schools, whether it's veterans, whether it's police, whether it's 326 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 7: armed teachers, you know, trained, armed, trained, all good, all good, 327 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 7: But my understanding is this guy shot from outside the 328 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 7: school in Yeah. 329 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 4: Rob, we I mentioned this when we were talking about this, 330 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 4: You're you're totally correct, by the way, I'm just jumping 331 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 4: and tell you. I said, in this instance, maybe armed 332 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: security would have been able to Look, there were two 333 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: killed and about a dozen wounded. Maybe armed security would 334 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 4: have been able to respond, but they wouldn't have been 335 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 4: able to neutralize the threat, most likely right away. Because 336 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: if you're going to shoot at a building from the outside, 337 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: but the shooter didn't make it into the building. 338 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: I believe he shot for four minutes. I think that's 339 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: the report, and we're going to get more and more 340 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: details about that. Yes, the initial your point is well taken, 341 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: but I think still armed security would have made had 342 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: armed security. 343 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: There than not, is the point? 344 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: And uh and so, But yes, we're totally looking at 345 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: the tactical analysis of this with an understanding that some 346 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: maniac is going to be firing a rifle at the 347 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 4: side of a church. I mean the stained glasses and bulletproof, 348 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: we get it. 349 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: Uh, all right. 350 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: Look, cell phones aren't meant to last forever. 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That's pound two 370 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: five zero, Say Clay and Buck to switch to America's 371 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 4: wireless company, Puretalk. 372 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: So welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck, Sexton show our friend. 373 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: Alex Bear and Sen, formerly of The New York Times, 374 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: write about almost everything on COVID, remember back when that mattered. 375 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: Now it's just like everybody wants to pretend COVID never 376 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: existed and there were never restrictions, and they never said, hey, 377 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: go sit in circles in public parks. They never said, hey, 378 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: take your put your mask on to walk to a restaurant, 379 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: then you can take your mask off as soon as 380 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: you sit down. That none of this absurdity. Schools weren't 381 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: shut down all these things. I thought about it this 382 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: morning because I'm still angry about it. When I took 383 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: my kids, we had a doctor's appointment, and you had 384 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: to wear a mask to go to a kid's pediatric 385 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: appointment for years in much of the country. But Alex, 386 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: we want to talk with you now about the school 387 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: shooting and in Minneapolis. We have been talking about this 388 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: quite a lot, and we're going to get into a 389 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: variety of different angles that you think are significant, But 390 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: let's start here. How much attention do you think there 391 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: should be your a parent, Buck is now a parent, Obviously, 392 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: I've got three kids. On the idea of miners being 393 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: given drugs relating to their gender. In the wake of 394 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: the school shooting in Nashville and the school shooting in Minneapolis. 395 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: Is it reasonable to say, hey, let's look at what 396 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: we're giving these minor kids. 397 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: Is it having an impact in their decision making? 398 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 7: Yes? I mean I think if you frame it that way, 399 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 7: the answer is one yes. And you know that's not 400 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 7: to say that you know, most trainings kids or kids 401 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 7: getting you know, or or you know or even young 402 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 7: adults getting transformones or in any way violent or dangerous, 403 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 7: but uh, you know this has now happened a number 404 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 7: of times, and I think it you know it it 405 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 7: raises this bigger question, right, like, these are very powerful drugs, 406 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 7: you know, sex hormones are you know, they're they're they're 407 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 7: very powerful even though they're naturally occurring. That doesn't mean 408 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 7: they're not powerful and are when you frame it us, 409 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 7: are they affecting kids decision making? That's a that's a 410 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 7: perfectly reasonable question to ask. 411 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 4: Now, Alex, I know you are very vocal about your 412 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: what you see as a connection between psychosis from marijuana 413 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: slash THHC, right, the psychoactive drug that is what people 414 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: are smoking the weed for, and in general just the 415 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 4: psychosis of it. But you also think that the walk 416 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: me through here what you believe because I've seen you 417 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: on Twitter talking about this, or rather writing about this. 418 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: Do you think there's a link between the psychosis that 419 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: has has been a huge factor obviously in some of 420 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: these horrific shootings and marijuana used. 421 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 7: Talk us through that, sure, So start with this cannabis. 422 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 7: And you know, Livten, I wrote a book right in 423 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 7: twenty nineteen called Tell Your Children that went into this 424 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 7: connection in depth. And so although I'm not an MD 425 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 7: or a PhD, I believe that I am qualified to 426 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 7: talk about this in a serious way. And I've read, 427 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 7: you know, basically all the literature that I can find 428 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 7: on it, and the evident has really only gotten stronger 429 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 7: since till your term came out, which was six years ago. 430 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 7: There's been more studies done. So look cannabis, you know, 431 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 7: flash THC because as you said, TC is the active 432 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 7: ingredient in cannabis, is the drug in cannabis that makes 433 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 7: people high, can cause and worsen psychotic episodes in people. 434 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 7: There's there's no question about that. I think even the 435 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 7: cannabis lobby would acknowledge that, and there is now, I 436 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 7: would say, very good evidence that in some people, especially 437 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 7: if you start using cannabis at a young age, and 438 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 7: especially if you use a lot of it, and especially 439 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 7: if you use high potency cannabis, and unfortunately, all those 440 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 7: three things are all connected. If you're doing that, you 441 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 7: increase your risk of developing schizophrenia. And schizophrenia is essentially, 442 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 7: you know, a permanent psychotic condition, right, So people with 443 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 7: schizophrenia will become psychotic. They'll maybe manage their psychosis with drugs, 444 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 7: drugs called antipsychotics, they may get a little bit better, 445 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 7: but then they're likely to become psychotic again. They'll they'll 446 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 7: relax sort of. The definition of schizophrenia is that it's 447 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 7: a it's a psychotic condition that's not drug related, it's 448 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 7: not related to dementia, it's not related to anything else, 449 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 7: and it just comes and goes and it's a really 450 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 7: terrible illness. Okay, about one in one hundred and fifty 451 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 7: people have this illness, and for the most part, they 452 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 7: don't get married, they don't work, they don't have kids. 453 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 7: They die about twenty years younger than other people on average, 454 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 7: because it's you really can't function very well in society 455 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 7: with schizophrenia. The other thing about schizophrenia, about psychiasist is 456 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 7: that people who have it are much more likely to 457 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 7: become violence. There's no question about that. They're also more 458 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 7: likely to be the victims of violence, So let's be 459 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 7: clear about that too. But you know when the classic line, 460 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 7: the line that I use and tell your children, is 461 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 7: when you see somebody if you're just a you know, 462 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 7: an ordinary person. You're on the subway platform in New 463 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 7: York City. You see somebody talking to himself who clearly 464 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 7: hasn't showered or you know, bathed, who might be homeless 465 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 7: at the other end of the platform or near you. 466 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 7: You walk over to the other end of the platform. 467 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 7: If you intuitively know that psychosis is dangerous. Human beings 468 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 7: know this. They know that people who are disconnected with 469 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 7: reality can be dangerous to them, and that's particularly true 470 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 7: when a psychosis has a paranoia flavor. So if I 471 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 7: become mentally ill and I'm convinced that you are out 472 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 7: to get me, I might lash out and hurt you. 473 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 7: And that might be if you're a stranger, it might 474 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 7: be if you're my child, it might be if you're 475 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 7: you know, a police officer. Right, So, once I become 476 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 7: convinced that you're a risk to me, I will lash 477 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 7: out against you. And this is a real connection. I 478 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 7: don't think anybody is serious in the psychiatric community, in 479 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 7: the medical community with doubt any of those things. So 480 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 7: that I've just told you so, the question then becomes 481 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 7: in encouraging people or allowing people, or allowing an industry 482 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 7: to spring up the encourages the use of cannabis and THFC, 483 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 7: which is a known psychomametic drug. 484 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: Are we. 485 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 7: Essentially facilitating or encouraging. Encouraging is the wrong word, but 486 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 7: but is it. 487 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: Like let me cut let me cut you off here 488 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: for a sex result, let me cut you off for 489 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: a sec alex. Because I think this is important. I 490 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: mentioned that we're all parents. I think a lot of 491 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: people around our age, and we're all around the same 492 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: age actually bought into the idea that we'd that THHC 493 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: is in some way healthier to use and less damaging 494 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: than alcohol. And if you look, if you look at 495 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: the data right now, and I think this is important, 496 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: alcohol use among young people is hitting record lows. They 497 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 1: are not in any way using alcohol like past generations have. Also, 498 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: nobody young by and large smokes right like nicotine, and 499 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: the idea that you would smoke a pack of day, 500 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: the use of cigarettes has collapsed among the young, but 501 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: use of THC, use of weed related products has surged, 502 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: and the idea has been alex that this is healthier 503 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: and better for kids, better for young people, young adults. 504 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: What you're telling us is that the evidence is actually 505 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: that we're trading less dangerous objects for more dangerous ones 506 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: based on some of the data that you're seeing. 507 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 7: So it's more complicated even than what you just said. 508 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 7: And here's why alcohol use is down, okay, but it 509 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 7: is not clear that people who use cannabis use less alcohol, okay. 510 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 7: People use drugs tend to use drugs, okay. So what 511 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 7: you get is sort of an additive effect where people 512 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 7: are using alcohol and cannabis. 513 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: And so there's not as much of a substitution as 514 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: my question implied based on what the data you see shows. 515 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 7: That's right. There are some people who are just using 516 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 7: less drugs right, just the way they're kids, you know, 517 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 7: kids like people I would say, teens in young adults. 518 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 7: They have sex less. Some of them don't drive, which 519 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 7: just seems absolutely crazy to me. They seem perfectly content, 520 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 7: a lot of them to sit at home and essentially 521 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 7: do nothing. And those are not the and some of 522 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 7: those people are using cannabis, but some are not. But 523 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 7: there's definitely a group that is using cannabis and other drugs, 524 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 7: even including psychedelics, in addition to alcohol. So what I 525 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 7: would also say is it's not People say to me, 526 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 7: how can you say cannabis is less dangerous than alcohol? 527 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 7: Nobody ever ever odd on cannabis on THHC, which isn't 528 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 7: quite true. People can od on it, mostly they don't 529 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 7: die on it. And here's the answer to that, the 530 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 7: true answer to that cannabis is less physically dangerous than alcohol. 531 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 7: No one could seriously disagree with that. If you drink 532 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 7: too much alcohol, your liver can stop and you'll die. 533 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 7: All right, that is not very likely. I mean, it's 534 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 7: not going to happen if you use cannabis. But cannabis 535 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 7: is more dangerous to your brain than alcohol. People don't 536 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 7: get psychotic except in very very rare times or or 537 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 7: in very life eight stage alcoholism from using alcohol. They 538 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 7: do get psychotic, paranoid and psychotic all the time when 539 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 7: they use cannabis. Okay, it's almost a feature of the drug. 540 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 7: And so so those are people are more dangerous to 541 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 7: the people around them in general than somebody who's using 542 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 7: alcohol and yes, sorry. 543 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 4: No, I want to ask you finish your thought. I 544 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 4: if something else, go ahead. 545 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 7: So the question is like, as a society, we're sort 546 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 7: of trading. We're trading a bar fight for like a 547 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 7: mass stabbing or a mass shooting, right, so or maybe 548 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 7: we're training ten bar fights or one hundred bar fights 549 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 7: or a mass shooting. But that is a real trade 550 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 7: that we're making. This idea that somehow substituting cannabis for 551 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 7: alcohol was going to be a good for public health 552 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 7: doesn't look like it's the case at all. And by 553 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 7: the way, people, one last thing is this idea that 554 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 7: when people are high and they drive, they don't speed. 555 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 7: It's not true. This idea that people who use cannabis 556 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 7: have a better mental health is one hundred percent not true. 557 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 7: In addition to this, this what I'm talking about with psychosis. 558 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: So, Alex, I hate I hate weed. 559 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: I hate weed too, Just to be clear, So I'm 560 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: i'm you know everything you're saying here, I'm it jives 561 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: with what I think and that I want to ask 562 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: you something else that's that's related. But because when these 563 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 4: things happen, you have a lot of people that will say, oh, 564 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 4: you know, and I'm seeing this on the right particularly, 565 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: which is why I want to talk about it. They go, oh, 566 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: it's they start blending ssriris and this. I think there's 567 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 4: a lot of misinformation or a lot of people need 568 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 4: to understand. Like I mean, I just say this, I 569 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: knew someone very well many years ago who was bipolar. 570 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: And I knew this person someone you know, it was 571 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: a woman who I was dating on meds, totally normal, 572 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: doing great, very successful in life. Off meds, cannot function, 573 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 4: And so I just think that, you know, people, there's 574 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: this thing of like SSRI zombies are running in and 575 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: killing people. The right needs to understand that actually, in 576 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: the mental health world, there are people who are their 577 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: lives are saved by being on these drugs actually, and 578 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: a lot of veterans who deal with PTSD whom I 579 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: know have gotten tremendous benefit from SSRI. So can you 580 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: speak to this a little bit because I think people 581 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: just are like everybody on SSRI should get off. 582 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, that is a terrible idea. 583 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 7: It's a terrible So I don't understand. I hate for SSRIs. Okay, Look, 584 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 7: I think SSRIs are overrated as drugs, and most people 585 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 7: who have mild depression are going to recover from that 586 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 7: depression on their own, whether or not they take an SSRI. 587 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 7: But there are some people out there who have really 588 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 7: severe depression who really can't function very well without an SSRI. 589 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 7: And by the way, if you have psychosis, there are 590 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 7: drugs called antipsychotics, and those drugs, those are difficult drugs 591 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 7: for people. They cause a lot of weight gain, they 592 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 7: cause movement disorders in some people. But if you have psychosis, 593 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 7: you need anti psychotic like those drugs help people. And 594 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 7: I think there's a really important distinction to make that 595 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 7: gets lost between essentially recreational drugs drugs of abuse and 596 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 7: SSRIs and antipsychotics. And so people will say when I 597 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 7: say this, like people are like, he's a simp for pharma, 598 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 7: And I say to them, like, do you know who 599 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 7: I am? 600 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm yeah, me. 601 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: Well, this is why this is why I wanted you 602 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 4: to talk about it, Alex, because I when I try 603 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 4: to point out reality people too, I'm like, no one's 604 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 4: like sitting around just popping lots of prozac because it's 605 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: so fun. 606 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 7: That's exactly right. So so the distinction isn't between a 607 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 7: drug you prescribe and a drug that's not prescribed. The 608 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 7: distinction is between drugs that get you high and drugs 609 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 7: that don't get you high. So what gets you high. 610 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 7: Stimulants get you high, So that's like an ADHD drug 611 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 7: adderall that's amphetamine. Those dorugs get people high. Benzos anti 612 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 7: anxiety drugs people take to get high. Nobody takes prozacs 613 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 7: to get high. Nobody takes vyprexa, which is an antipsychotic, 614 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 7: to get high. Those drugs have no street value because 615 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 7: they don't get you high, and. 616 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 4: The people who need them really really need them in 617 00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: many cases. 618 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 7: Is one percent right? And so again like are sthrized 619 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 7: potentially over prescribed? Sure, I'll tell you something right now. 620 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 7: Right now most emphasized are off patent okay, off patent, lexipro, 621 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 7: off pentent okay. That means that the companies don't make 622 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 7: any money basically from them, and they're still being prescribed. 623 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 7: Why because there's some people out there who need them. 624 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 7: And you're totally right to make that point. And again 625 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 7: I'm not like, I agree with you. I don't understand 626 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 7: why the right has suddenly gotten fixated on SSR. 627 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're demonizing ssris' and they're wrong. Honestly, a lot 628 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 4: of the people that are doing this are just wrong 629 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: and they don't know what they're talking about. And I'll 630 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: just say it out loud because I know it's true. 631 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you this, Alex as we 632 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: go to break, because I do think so many people 633 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: listen and their moms and dads, their grandma and grandpas. 634 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: What would you want them to tell their kids who 635 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: are fifteen or sixteen years old and have bought into 636 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: this idea that you can use THHC products as much 637 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: as you want and there's nothing to be concerned about 638 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: with that. In thirty seconds, what would you want them 639 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: to know in thirty seconds? 640 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 7: And then and then I hope you give me one 641 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 7: final segment, But in thirty seconds, what I'd say to 642 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 7: you is, it's not just about TC and it's not 643 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 7: just about alcohol. There's no free lunch. Okay, a drug 644 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 7: that gets you high, that that alters your relationships to 645 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 7: the world, You're going to pay a price for it. 646 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 7: And it may be a small price, and it may 647 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 7: be a price that you're willing to pay to have 648 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 7: that U for or that intoxication in the moment. But 649 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 7: don't make the mistake of thinking cannabis and TC is medicine. 650 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 7: Don't think that if you're you know, popping your adderall 651 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 7: to stay up all night and you want to feel 652 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 7: good like that, that there's not a price to be paid. 653 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 7: These drugs are addictive. They change your brain chemistry, and 654 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 7: you will pay, and you may be able to tolerate 655 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 7: that price, but it is coming. That's what I would 656 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 7: say to them. 657 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: That's what Okay, parents, the kids, we got to go 658 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: to break to the hit the read. 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The President 683 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 7: of the United States right now has a very important 684 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 7: decision that he's that he's trying to make about whether 685 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 7: or not cannabis should be reschedulized, rescheduled as a as 686 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 7: a less dangerous drug under DEA rules. And so if 687 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 7: he does that, okay, by the way, it's currently called 688 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 7: Schedule one. But that doesn't affect your ability in a 689 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 7: legalized state to buy it. It doesn't mean anybody is 690 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 7: arrested for possessing it or using it. All that stuff 691 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 7: is under the current situation, okay. But the cannabis industry 692 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 7: desperately wants them to reschedulize because it will be a 693 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 7: huge boost to their profits, okay. And that will mean 694 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 7: more pop as, it will mean more dispensaries, It will 695 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 7: mean more kids and young people and young adults smoking 696 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 7: a lot. This is what they want. And they don't 697 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 7: want it because it's gonna change public health or get it. 698 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 7: Or they don't want it because it's gonna get you know, 699 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 7: kids out of jail. Because it doesn't change any laws. 700 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 7: It just will make their lives. We do and you me, 701 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 7: Laura Ingram. We don't have money in this, Okay. We 702 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 7: are talking about this because we think it's important for 703 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 7: the health of kids and young adults. And I know 704 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 7: it's a tough choice, but the president should go with 705 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 7: his gut. I know that he's concerned about substance confused. 706 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 7: I know you know, he's seen its effects on people. 707 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 7: And he should keep cannabis as a schedule warm drug. 708 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 7: And he should listen to people who don't have. 709 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 4: Money, alexperience and everybody Alex thanks for being here. 710 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 2: Guys, Hour three coming up. Stick Around