Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
Speaker 1: This week, I have a super exciting guest that I
Speaker 1: am so excited for you all to see, Sammy Sheen.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Ah, thank you so much for joining. Okay, so let's
Speaker 1: kind of unpack. I feel like you and I have
Speaker 1: both grown up in the public eye with very hectic families,
Speaker 1: so I feel like this is something that we both
Speaker 1: can relate to, and dealing with the public is definitely
Speaker 1: not easy. So going back to your childhood, both of
Speaker 1: your parents are insanely famous. How was that growing up?
Speaker 2: It was, honestly all I knew, Like I was literally
Speaker 2: born into I think I was on the cover of
Speaker 2: people when I wasn't even like a year old. So
Speaker 2: I was like, fully, it was like all I knew,
Speaker 2: and I only knew it was weird when I would
Speaker 2: have friends hang out with me and there would be
Speaker 2: like paparazzi and stuff and they would be like, wait,
Speaker 2: what you have cameras following you and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess it is not normal. And then as I
Speaker 2: got older, I was like, yeah, this isn't normal, but
Speaker 2: it didn't really hit me until like end of middle
Speaker 2: school and beginning of high school, when kids started finding
Speaker 2: out who my parents were. And you know, you understand.
Speaker 1: Now, of course for anyone who doesn't know your dad
Speaker 1: is Charlie Sheen and your mom is Denise Richards. So
Speaker 1: growing up in California and especially you know, your parents
Speaker 1: having this big name, that's surprising to me that a
Speaker 1: lot of kids didn't think that this was normal, especially
Speaker 1: because there's famous people flooding California all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why, because even when I like
Speaker 2: meet someone who's in the public eye or like I
Speaker 2: find out how friend's parents are whoever, like, I don't
Speaker 2: really bat a eye because it's so normal out here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when your parents split, was that a difficult
Speaker 1: time for you? Do you like even really right?
Speaker 2: But I honestly don't even remember. My mom hid so
Speaker 2: much stuff from me. Like there was one year I
Speaker 2: was like asking where my dad was on Christmas and
Speaker 2: my mom told us he was skiing, but he was
Speaker 2: actually in jail. And yeah, I don't know if he
Speaker 2: actually went to jail or if he was on his
Speaker 2: way to jail something with him in jail, But I
Speaker 2: thought he was skiing, and I was like, that's weird.
Speaker 2: My dad doesn't even know how to ski. But I
Speaker 2: was so young, so I really don't have that many
Speaker 2: memories of stuff when I was younger, And I think
Speaker 2: my mom did a really good job of kind of
Speaker 2: hiding stuff.
Speaker 1: So she was your main protector throughout this entire thing. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: so was my mom too. Okay, so your father went away,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know that. So were you mainly
Speaker 1: with your mom?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I my dad, like he was not. I don't.
Speaker 2: He was not in jail for I don't even know
Speaker 2: if I don't know the whole story, but he was
Speaker 2: not there for long at all. Like yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like he had like a year sentence or anything. But yeah,
Speaker 2: my whole childhood, I want to say, like the first
Speaker 2: thirteen years, my dad was very like in and out
Speaker 2: of my life.
Speaker 1: Okay, he would have been challenging.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. It was the worst if we had
Speaker 2: like an event and he said he was going to
Speaker 2: show up and then we wouldn't hear from him, or
Speaker 2: he would show up like ten hours late. So we
Speaker 2: kind of just stopped asking him to come to come
Speaker 2: to stuff. But because it.
Speaker 1: Was probably false, hope, and honestly at a young age
Speaker 1: as well, it probably caused a lot of just trauma
Speaker 1: and emotional damage for you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, especially because then if he did show up,
Speaker 2: like if we got lucky enough to see him, he
Speaker 2: was most likely under the influence of something. So that
Speaker 2: was it's like, it's sad, but I make humor out
Speaker 2: of it, Like I literally cannot tell you one memory
Speaker 2: from my childhood of him where he's been like sober,
Speaker 2: which is kind of sad, but yeah, whatever, it's his choice.
Speaker 1: That must have been really challenging just watching him as
Speaker 1: you were growing up and dealing with you know, drug
Speaker 1: addiction and alcohol abuse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hardest part was if I wanted, like friends
Speaker 2: to come over, like their parents sometimes wouldn't let them
Speaker 2: because they knew who my dad was, and like rightfully
Speaker 2: so by the kid, I would not let them. But
Speaker 2: that was pretty hard. But it was honestly, like it
Speaker 2: was all I knew. It would have been a lot
Speaker 2: harder if I went from like having a perfect family
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, he's a crazy drug
Speaker 2: addict and we don't get to see him. So it
Speaker 2: kind of helps that it's all I know, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it still sucks.
Speaker 1: No, for sure, And I mean, you know, again, this
Speaker 1: wasn't your fault. So even hearing that sometimes your friends
Speaker 1: weren't allowed to come over and it affected you like
Speaker 1: during your school years, ultimately like, no, of this was
Speaker 1: your fault, but it kind of falls on you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had the hardest time getting into school.
Speaker 2: Like when I was applying for different high schools, I
Speaker 2: like dreamt of there's a school called Crossroads. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've heard of it. It's I can't even
Speaker 2: remember what area. It's somewhere in LA but it's this
Speaker 2: like beautiful private art to high school. And it was
Speaker 2: my dream to go there. And I had other high
Speaker 2: schools that I wanted to go to, but that one specifically,
Speaker 2: and like no high school would accept me because of
Speaker 2: like stuff my dad has posted in the past about
Speaker 2: like previous schools that I went to. So that was
Speaker 2: one thing where like I still hold a grudge because
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I feel like, I mean, everything happens
Speaker 2: for a reason, But yeah, that one was really difficult.
Speaker 2: Was like how it affected even the schools I was
Speaker 2: able to go to. Yeah, I was just like, why
Speaker 2: can I not, why are they not accepting my applications?
Speaker 2: Like I have straight ags, I'm a grade student. I
Speaker 2: remember my mom had to like write a letter on
Speaker 2: his behalf and like try everything she could to get
Speaker 2: us into these schools. But I had no idea until
Speaker 2: later on. I'm like, so that's why I did not
Speaker 2: get in, and like it, honestly is really nice hearing
Speaker 2: that it wasn't my fault that I didn't get there.
Speaker 1: Definitely reassuring. So your mom was actually on the Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills as well. She joined the show
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and you were sixteen when she joined
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2: I think so you honestly know more than I do.
Speaker 1: I have a little cheat cheet.
Speaker 2: No, I know you have your homework right there. I
Speaker 2: literally have no idea, but yes, I guess I was sixteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, And how was that? Did you want her to
Speaker 1: join the show? Because from when you were young to
Speaker 1: when she joined the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I
Speaker 1: know your mom has been in plenty of movies, and
Speaker 1: she was in the whole James Bond James Bond movies,
Speaker 1: which is pretty iconic, but was her career still as
Speaker 1: busy leading up to her joining Beverly Hills. Were you
Speaker 1: excited to kind of jump back into the public eye
Speaker 1: or did you kind of take or did you not really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she's always been busy. I cannot remember
Speaker 2: a time where she has ever like relaxed further half
Speaker 2: the time. Like that woman is always working twenty four
Speaker 2: to seven. She is the hardest worker I know. And
Speaker 2: so she definitely was still booking jobs and like crazy work.
Speaker 2: She had a crazy work schedule before the Housewives. But
Speaker 2: I was really supportive of her doing it. I was
Speaker 2: really excited for her, and I'm like, Okay, like maybe
Speaker 2: I'll make good friends through this, because it's obviously really
Speaker 2: hard making friends when you're in the public eye.
Speaker 1: I never know who you can trust exactly.
Speaker 2: And I was really happy for her. But I also
Speaker 2: had barely seen the show, so I did not really
Speaker 2: know what she was getting herself into. And then after
Speaker 2: the first season, I realized how much of a toll
Speaker 2: the show took on her health and everything.
Speaker 1: And it's very toxic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I she was like debating going back and
Speaker 2: I was telling her, like I've noticed a full one eighty,
Speaker 2: like do not do this to yourself, Like it's not
Speaker 2: worth it, Like these women fight like no tomorrow, Like
Speaker 2: you don't deserve this.
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: And yeah I so after the first season and after
Speaker 2: I was around them when they were filming it, I
Speaker 2: was like, this is so toxic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean also, I feel so were you
Speaker 1: very involved when your mom was filming, not necessarily with
Speaker 1: the women, but with her at home?
Speaker 2: Uh sometimes they filmed us here and there. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I remember being so nervous to be on camera.
Speaker 3: I was so shy when I was in high school,
Speaker 3: so I hated it. I would if I came home
Speaker 3: and the cameras were on her, I literally would like
Speaker 3: cover my face and run to my room and like I.
Speaker 1: Was so funny. My sister Gabriella yea, yeah, so funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like super.
Speaker 1: Private, so she would be like no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: and like run upstairs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 1: So then, knowing that you hated it, I know that
Speaker 1: a super crazy scene happened with some of the housewives,
Speaker 1: and I know your mom got really upset about it
Speaker 1: when they were talking about a threesome in front of
Speaker 1: you and you were with your friends, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were playing with Barbie's. There were barbies on
Speaker 2: the table, like Eloise was playing with the barbies and
Speaker 2: we literally, oh.
Speaker 1: My gosh, so your little little sister was there.
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, Elouise was there. But it was just funny
Speaker 2: because like there was Elouise was like playing with her barbies,
Speaker 2: and we were obviously playing with barbies, but not in
Speaker 2: a PG Barbie way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, being funny.
Speaker 2: And then we hear them talking about three, so it
Speaker 2: was really like, that's really funny. We're both having like
Speaker 2: the same conversations right now. But they didn't have mics
Speaker 2: on us. They don't they couldn't hear what we were
Speaker 2: talking about. And so I turned when they said, like
Speaker 2: I think it was eric I who said something, and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's so funny. I can't remember
Speaker 2: exactly what was said, but like obviously, like we're in
Speaker 2: high school, we know what a threesome was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My mom got so mad because she was so like
Speaker 2: so classing, like you're not allot to talk about this
Speaker 2: and you can't say this and like that around my kids,
Speaker 2: and like, little did she know we were talking about
Speaker 2: the same thing.
Speaker 1: So it did it didn't even Oh, I.
Speaker 2: Crossed your mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2: It was so funny, and I feel.
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, for your mom's perspective, she was probably
Speaker 1: just so mad and didn't want that to even be
Speaker 1: spoken about around her.
Speaker 2: Kids, probably because we've never heard her talk about any
Speaker 2: of that stuff around us. So it was definitely like
Speaker 2: it was kind of like relieving to know that my
Speaker 2: mom also like has these conversations.
Speaker 1: With her friends and like a.
Speaker 2: Normal thing to talk about. But she probably was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, my kids, like in poor Eloise, but
Speaker 2: Eloise isn't She was so distracted with her dolls she
Speaker 2: didn't even know.
Speaker 1: She probably wasn't even paying attention. Yeah, you weren't even
Speaker 1: really involved. You guys were kind of just overhearing it,
Speaker 1: but you thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't even I don't even think. I
Speaker 2: was barely barely on camera during that and I hardly
Speaker 2: ever talked to any of the girls besides unless they
Speaker 2: was like off camera obviously, and like, yeah.
Speaker 1: You feel a little more comfortable. Have you experienced Bravo fans?
Speaker 2: I have dealt with them online and they're horrible, horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get so much hate all the time, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's so hard to deal with. Ye, but it's fans,
Speaker 1: like it is the Bravo fans. I love them, they're loyal,
Speaker 1: But if they're not on your side or they don't
Speaker 1: like something that you did, meanwhile, it's not their life.
Speaker 1: And if they loved you as a person and supported
Speaker 1: you as a fan, they should accept your decision and
Speaker 1: respect it and watch you grow in life. Instead, I
Speaker 1: get ripped to shreds all the time. I could literally
Speaker 1: give you five examples, like.
Speaker 2: Terry, you're so sweet, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely have had my moments on The
Speaker 1: Real Housewives in New Jersey just because not really, not
Speaker 1: even in a bad way. It was always out of
Speaker 1: defense for my mom. So there I dealt with a
Speaker 1: lot of family drama on The Real Housewives in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: which is kind of the main reason why I would
Speaker 1: say that The Real house Is in New Jersey is
Speaker 1: on pause right now. Really, yeah, we're on hold, like
Speaker 1: we're on pause, and it's kind of because Jersey needs
Speaker 1: a wake up calling away to just I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it was family drama between my mom and her brother.
Speaker 1: But this family drama has been going on for ten years.
Speaker 1: Everyone's sick of it. We don't want to deal with
Speaker 1: it anymore. And this is our real life, this is
Speaker 1: what we are going through, so we don't want to
Speaker 1: deal with it, and nonetheless the fans are sick of it.
Speaker 1: It's almost like this same story that's on repeat and
Speaker 1: it's boring, it's getting old. You need to find something new.
Speaker 1: And then it's everybody's talking about my mom. Nobody has
Speaker 1: anything else to talk about besides my mom. Everyone wants
Speaker 1: to gring up on my mom and try to tear
Speaker 1: her down and say things about her marriage. And it's
Speaker 1: just this constant attack on my mom and it's toxic.
Speaker 1: It's so tiring, honestly. So I think Bravo was like,
Speaker 1: we are going to do things on our back end.
Speaker 1: You girls need to reflect and see how you're going
Speaker 1: to proceed to basically create a show that is going
Speaker 1: to be enjoyable to watch and sustainable for the fans
Speaker 1: to watch. But I've had my moments with you know,
Speaker 1: my family, which have all been raw and real, and
Speaker 1: you know, I have fans that say that I was disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I have fans that say, you're not a housewife. I
Speaker 1: have fans that say, no, you're place. But all of
Speaker 1: these times when I have ever spoken out, or when
Speaker 1: I have ever said something out of frustration or anger,
Speaker 1: that was all real. It was me dealing with my family.
Speaker 1: It was all real moments that just came out naturally,
Speaker 1: you know, they just haven't and they happen to be
Speaker 1: on camera. And then it's constant stop with the filler,
Speaker 1: Stop with lip filler, stop with this, stop with that.
Speaker 1: What are you doing to your face? You look crazy?
Speaker 1: And between you and I, I mean, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be aired, but I've said it a million times. I
Speaker 1: want you after this to go look up a bit
Speaker 1: picture of me when I was little. I've never gotten
Speaker 1: lip filler in my life. Oh you haven't, no natural lips?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I get lip filler all the time because
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 1: But it's it's okay, it's.
Speaker 2: Okay even if you don't even have lipfil Like.
Speaker 1: Why are they likes a cute now filler?
Speaker 2: That's so boring?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, like people are bored. It's it's a lot.
Speaker 1: So it's constant comments all the time. The only thing
Speaker 1: that I have gotten done was my nose, Okay, how
Speaker 1: was that?
Speaker 2: Because I got mine done too.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I was okay, really yeah, I mean they
Speaker 1: ended up when they went in. They had to break
Speaker 1: my nose and like do a little more than they expected.
Speaker 1: But I mean I loved it. I lost ten pounds
Speaker 1: after the surgery because you can't.
Speaker 2: Eat Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like it was hard. I was like
Speaker 1: eating pastina and I would drink a case of water
Speaker 1: I think every day because with that little cotton thing
Speaker 1: under your nose, and you would constantly breathe out of
Speaker 1: your mouth, so my mouth was so dry.
Speaker 2: Did you have those like things stuff stuffed up your nose? No,
Speaker 2: I didn't, Okay, we I only had them for like
Speaker 2: twenty four hours. But okay, I've seen girls have it
Speaker 2: for like a week and it looks like hell. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and then know that's so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was very open about it. I posted
Speaker 1: about it on my Instagram because I feel like if
Speaker 1: I'm open about what I get done, people will have
Speaker 1: less to say yes I'm wrong, because they still they
Speaker 1: still say what they want to say.
Speaker 2: They will pick apart any little thing, like the other
Speaker 2: day someone was saying, my forehead is too small. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if I had a bigger forehead, you would say it's
Speaker 2: too big, like way around my forehead. Why do these
Speaker 2: people like tear me to shreds for literally absolutely everything
Speaker 2: I do? It's crazy. So I started just like h
Speaker 2: like not feeding into it, but kind of like mocking them.
Speaker 1: In a way of like, I mean, if you find
Speaker 1: humor out of it, it's sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because like I'll post something knowing like
Speaker 2: this is going to piss people off, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what more can they possibly say? I did not know you.
Speaker 2: I guess everyone in the public eye gets hated on
Speaker 2: for no reason.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, literally for no reason. It's terrible. What
Speaker 1: have you gotten anything else done?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually just posted a TikTok because people like
Speaker 2: the episode just aired where I got my nose done,
Speaker 2: and everyone was flooding my comments like this is so sad.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's sad? I'm happy?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't you need to do what makes
Speaker 1: you happy? I was so unhappy with my nose. I
Speaker 1: hated it, and I got my nose done. I was
Speaker 1: I think I was twenty, Oh, I was twenty when
Speaker 1: I got my nose done. Yeah, it's been.
Speaker 2: A couple of years now, Okay, Yeah, I got I
Speaker 2: started with lip filler when I was like eighteen, obviously
Speaker 2: went to the wrong person how to get it, dissolved
Speaker 2: to start over. And then before I got my nose done,
Speaker 2: I discovered nose filler so they would like fill the
Speaker 2: tip and try and make it look cuter. But the
Speaker 2: guy literally told me like, you're gonna need a rhino
Speaker 2: pasty to get the look that you want. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, thanks for being honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I went through all this work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that one hurt, Like getting nose filler,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's like as bad. And then I
Speaker 2: got my boobs done almost. No. I want to say,
Speaker 2: like a year and a half ago, I should have
Speaker 2: gone bigger.
Speaker 1: I'm so upset your boobs.
Speaker 2: Yes, the surgeon talked me down in size and no
Speaker 2: because I relaps are not in. I love big boobs.
Speaker 2: I think because my torso is so long.
Speaker 1: I say, I have a short torso. So I feel
Speaker 1: like if I ever got my boobs done, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to go so big. I feel like I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if I was more petite like shorter
Speaker 2: and like more condensed. I would my boobs would fill up,
Speaker 2: but because like my torso so long, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: wish I went bigger, but whatever, they're still nice. And
Speaker 2: then I got veneers, like a year ago. Wow, I
Speaker 2: did my I got my dad's teeth. He has a
Speaker 2: full mouth of veneers. So I only did the front
Speaker 2: eight ones just because I or I only did the
Speaker 2: front eight just because I went through like braces I
Speaker 2: did in vizil line twice, I would whiteen them like
Speaker 2: I just could not get the look I wanted.
Speaker 1: So I felt like I'm doing in biziline right now.
Speaker 2: Oh really it sucks. And those like little bumps they
Speaker 2: have to put on your teeth, well.
Speaker 1: That and I noticed it and pictures it bothers me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so sick of that. And like after
Speaker 2: I got my vicilne off, I still hate in my teeth.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I'll just get freaking veneers. And
Speaker 2: I was at the dentist and I saw a photo
Speaker 2: of like a big white smile and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: want those teeth. Yeah, and literally a week later I
Speaker 2: got it. And then I got my nose done in
Speaker 2: August and that's it. It's all. It's a lot. But
Speaker 2: compared to some other people, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Me listen filler and botox, I feel like it's so
Speaker 1: as much as people want to hate on it, it's
Speaker 1: also very normalized. You need to do what makes you happy.
Speaker 1: And your rhino plasti surgery it looks so natural.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: No matter what you've gotten done, you've done it very naturally.
Speaker 2: Sound like cool, Like I just want like little enhancements,
Speaker 2: but those little enhancements like they're kind of big things.
Speaker 2: I don't want it.
Speaker 1: The difference and whatever makes you happy. As long as
Speaker 1: you wake up every morning look at yourself in the mirror,
Speaker 1: you can give yourself a high five and say that
Speaker 1: you're beauty and you feel confident in your own skined
Speaker 1: I stand by that whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I agree. I was really confident before I
Speaker 2: had any work done. Like it wasn't like I needed
Speaker 2: something Like I hated my nose, but I made it work,
Speaker 2: and I yeah, if I can't get a nose rob
Speaker 2: it's okay. But like I still had confidence, And I
Speaker 2: think that's like such a huge thing that like girls
Speaker 2: need to really be happy with themselves before they get
Speaker 2: plastic surgery or any work done, because like, I think
Speaker 2: insecurity comes from like really like deep rooted within you,
Speaker 2: and like a nose job isn't going to fix all
Speaker 2: your insecurities and it's not going to like like it'll
Speaker 2: definitely like add confidence, but I think you need to
Speaker 2: really be confident and like love yourself before getting any
Speaker 2: work done. And that's like what so many people don't realize.
Speaker 2: So at least I was like, I actually love that.
Speaker 1: I love everything that you just said.
Speaker 2: I just because I didn't realize.
Speaker 1: It's it's true. If you have deep rooted issues and
Speaker 1: you're insecure with yourself and you think that fixing these
Speaker 1: changes are going to fix your insecurities, they're not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because everyone always comments like you need to respect
Speaker 2: yourself and be happy with yourself. I'm like, I've been
Speaker 2: happy with myself. I just finally am able to like
Speaker 2: get a noose job. Like there's nothing wrong with like
Speaker 2: wan wanting a little enhancement.
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone needs to tell everyone's happy. Life
Speaker 1: is life, and if you are a real fan, please
Speaker 1: just support us in a loving way. We love the
Speaker 1: supportive fans. And if you don't have anything nice to comment,
Speaker 1: just don't comment it at all.
Speaker 2: Or like write it like on a piece of paper
Speaker 2: and burn it. Ors on me, Like, why do you
Speaker 2: have to do in my comments?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's come to the point where I literally filter
Speaker 1: the words oh sameilters, Like it's so sad. But then
Speaker 1: the haters also are the people who follow you, And
Speaker 1: then I'm like, why if you hate me so much?
Speaker 2: It's all jealousy like and you know that, but it's
Speaker 2: hard to remember that when you read something you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my.
Speaker 1: God, Like it's just it gets you know, And I
Speaker 1: have never been one to really dwell on the comment
Speaker 1: section or make it affect me, but it after you're
Speaker 1: reading it time after time again and you're really sitting there.
Speaker 1: You want people to go to your content and enjoy it,
Speaker 1: watch it, love it, comment on it, ask you questions,
Speaker 1: but to go to your comment section and get that
Speaker 1: feedback from your content, it's just it's honestly discouraging. It's
Speaker 1: a little disappointing. Yes, exactly, it really does. It really does.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, bravo fans love love you love hate relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I love the ones that are super supportive,
Speaker 2: but I have only seen a few of those, the
Speaker 2: main ones I get are like, you're so mean to
Speaker 2: your sister. Treat your family better. I'm like, you guys
Speaker 2: like this happens to just be on camera, like we're
Speaker 2: a normal, like we fight.
Speaker 1: I don't understand, but then they should also they want reality.
Speaker 1: This is reality, this is life. If you're telling me
Speaker 1: that you don't fight with your sister or brother, you're crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh literally, And like there was a lot of fights
Speaker 2: that me and Lola had that didn't make it on
Speaker 2: the show, But what made it on the show was
Speaker 2: us after a fight. So I was in a bad
Speaker 2: mood and then I didn't want to talk to her.
Speaker 2: And then that's when people are like, you're so mean
Speaker 2: to your sister, Like if only you knew what was
Speaker 2: said before the cameras were wrong.
Speaker 1: I know, there's like eighty percent that's really shown you
Speaker 1: don't know the other. Yeah, I mean there's twenty percent
Speaker 1: that's really shown you don't know the other eighty literally
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. In twenty twenty one, when you were
Speaker 1: only seventeen, you publicly said you were moving out of
Speaker 1: your mom's house to move in with your dad, and
Speaker 1: that your mom's house was a hell house, Why did
Speaker 1: you want to move out? And what has changed since then?
Speaker 2: I mean, I've like had a really difficult relationship with
Speaker 2: both my parents, but it was I was living at
Speaker 2: my mom's obviously with Aaron and Lola, and like we
Speaker 2: were all fighting constantly. I did not get along with anyone.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like the odd one out, and
Speaker 2: being the older sister, the blame was like always thrown
Speaker 2: on me for everything. Yea, And yeah, it was just
Speaker 2: I was really struggling mentally in that house. And there's
Speaker 2: obviously a lot that I wish I could say, get
Speaker 2: in trouble, but yeah, I just felt like at the time,
Speaker 2: me and my dad were on good terms and it
Speaker 2: was a more peaceful environment, so I wanted to try
Speaker 2: out living there and like it was great till it
Speaker 2: wasn't and then I figured it out And yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, do you regret making that so public?
Speaker 2: Yes, but only because it reached the wrong side of TikTok.
Speaker 2: Like there's the right side of TikTok and the wrong
Speaker 2: side of TikTok. I feel like if you're like like
Speaker 2: sometimes we'll post something, I'll literally say like I hope
Speaker 2: this reaches the right audience. So I think the wrong
Speaker 2: people saw that and like took it and ran with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one like it's rough. No, no, but it's
Speaker 1: rough if it does reach the wrong side, because then
Speaker 1: you just get ripped to shreds.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was expecting girls my age and be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, like I'm in the same boat as you,
Speaker 2: Like I also don't get along with my mom, like
Speaker 2: this is this but no, people were like, how dare
Speaker 2: you have? It's so nice. I'm like, you guys have
Speaker 2: no idea, Like what goes on behind closed doors is crazy.
Speaker 1: Of course, and everyone can judge, but especially being a child,
Speaker 1: I feel like every child has gone through that period
Speaker 1: where you want to move out. There has been multiple
Speaker 1: times as a child, I've packed my bags and I've
Speaker 1: been like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm never coming back,
Speaker 1: and it's just frustration. It's when you're young. I think
Speaker 1: it's a mix of wanting to leave, immaturity, trying to
Speaker 1: escape the feelings. It's a bunch of things. And you
Speaker 1: and your mom obviously made it back to have a
Speaker 1: great relationship.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah we didn't speak for almost a year, Oh wow,
Speaker 2: and great.
Speaker 1: We're just and how was that time when you were
Speaker 1: with your dad. Was that okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously he loved that I was like taking his
Speaker 2: side now after all these years, and like he was
Speaker 2: the favorite parent. But I think, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I kind of was just able to like find not
Speaker 2: obviously not fully I was so young, but like start
Speaker 2: to find myself and like have my own space in
Speaker 2: my own environment, and like he keeps to himself, I
Speaker 2: kept myself Like it was like nice until I was
Speaker 2: just like really lonely and like I was like, this
Speaker 2: is not working. My mom's was not working. So I
Speaker 2: lived with a friend for a little bit, and then
Speaker 2: I went back to my mom's, okay, right after I
Speaker 2: turned eighteen, and I just was like I cannot do this.
Speaker 2: So that's when I started holding fans. And I got
Speaker 2: an apartment a month later and been living in an
Speaker 2: apartment ever since. Not the same one, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: haven't gone back.
Speaker 1: Wow. So then that was Yeah, so you started only
Speaker 1: fans when you were eighteen. That was in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Is this kind of the main reason why you started?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I fully started just because I didn't know
Speaker 2: what to do, because I was just so unhappy and
Speaker 2: like I didn't have like every living situation I was
Speaker 2: in was very chaotic, and I didn't have like a home.
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't feel like a home. And I
Speaker 2: was like, I just want my own space so bad,
Speaker 2: like I'm tired of X, Y and Z. So I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what job in this economy
Speaker 2: will give me an apartment. So and I didn't get
Speaker 2: any help from my parents, Like if I did, I
Speaker 2: would have probably gotten a regular job. But I was
Speaker 2: fully I've been fully on my own, like financially since
Speaker 2: I was eighteen, So I kind of was like, I
Speaker 2: need to be a smart business woman. Here take it
Speaker 2: to my advantage. I have parents in the public eye,
Speaker 2: like people already know my name, so might as well
Speaker 2: do only fans because I know it's doing really well
Speaker 2: right now for other people. And it did, and it
Speaker 2: really got me on my feet, and like it's affected
Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities because it's not the classiest look,
Speaker 2: but I'm still really grateful for it, and it's like
Speaker 2: such it's given me a lot of confidence for.
Speaker 1: Sure when that all started, because like you said, each
Speaker 1: living situation was kind of toxic and causing a lot
Speaker 1: of turmoil to you, did you feel like that was
Speaker 1: your only option because you're like, where your parent's not
Speaker 1: going to give you the financial funds to move out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like it was. It really was my
Speaker 2: only option if.
Speaker 1: I like, it was like, if you don't want to
Speaker 1: live with us, we're not going to give you the funds,
Speaker 1: so figure it out or else you're like on your own. Basically, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was. Yeah.
Speaker 2: People always comment like it's crazy you how to do this,
Speaker 2: like you have daddy's money. I'm like, I really where
Speaker 2: I wish? Yeah, it would be nice.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so then from there it kind of popped off.
Speaker 1: But then at one point, I know, you referred to
Speaker 1: yourself as a sex worker. Why why did you do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well because like people always like view sex work
Speaker 2: as like you're going like an escort or like an
Speaker 2: actual like sex worker. But I made sure I like
Speaker 2: did my research and like looked up every definitely everything
Speaker 2: to make sure I wasn't saying anything wrong. But technically,
Speaker 2: like selling explicit images of yourself online two men is
Speaker 2: considered sex work, and that's why I was just saying that.
Speaker 1: We were just trying to cover proper terminology. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I literally was just like well when I was trying
Speaker 2: to hook the audience to like be like.
Speaker 1: Oh that definitely oh yeah.
Speaker 2: But just in the wrong way because I didn't realize,
Speaker 2: like obviously, like this generation is more familiar with like
Speaker 2: those terms with the older generation. Here's sex worker. They're like, what, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: sex worker? Like no, I just do only fans like
Speaker 2: I've been doing only fans, like I just this is
Speaker 2: my first time saying it what it is. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I got my mom flipped her with me when I
Speaker 2: said that, and I like screenshot the definition on Google
Speaker 2: and send it to her and I'm like, it's not
Speaker 2: what I meant.
Speaker 1: I prom And then I know one thing we say
Speaker 1: it gets twisted and word doomed. Yeah, but what kind
Speaker 1: of content do you post on OnlyFans? Do you have
Speaker 1: a boundary to what you post? Is there anything that
Speaker 1: you won't go past?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never do like I've never ever ever done
Speaker 2: a sex tape. I've never done like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just keep it very classy while still giving people
Speaker 2: their their money's worth, if that makes sense. But nudity, yeah,
Speaker 2: there is nudity, but not full full, full nudity, got it? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. They're like I feel like
Speaker 2: I give people their money's worth, and like I'll tell
Speaker 2: them like these are my boundaries. Like people will request
Speaker 2: the craziest things and I'm like, just.
Speaker 1: Get requested feet picks.
Speaker 2: Oh I sell my feet pigs.
Speaker 1: That's like that's your easy money.
Speaker 2: And people love my feet. I honestly do have really
Speaker 2: cute feets. I don't blame them, but they request some
Speaker 2: weird things like put in the toilet.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why does that all have the weirdest bet?
Speaker 2: Why did that party on my foot going into a toilet?
Speaker 2: Like that's weird, but okay, Like yeah, I know. But
Speaker 2: the other stuff that they've requested where I'm like that
Speaker 2: it's just really crossing the line. I'm like, there's other
Speaker 2: girls who will give you that. No judge, it's just
Speaker 2: not my thing.
Speaker 1: And is there like something they sign where your stuff
Speaker 1: cannot go public?
Speaker 2: No, there's not. I have like a disclaimer on my
Speaker 2: page and it has my like watermark on it, like
Speaker 2: OnlyFans dot com sash sa machine is plastered on every
Speaker 2: single piece of content that I sell on there. But
Speaker 2: people will still screenshot it and my stuff, and like
Speaker 2: I have a whole team that does take down leak stuff,
Speaker 2: but there's so much where it's like and like a
Speaker 2: lot of my lead stuff was when I was like
Speaker 2: literally just eighteen. I'm like, oh my god, like I
Speaker 2: look so weird and like, eugh, I was so young.
Speaker 2: I wish I didn't have to start it when I
Speaker 2: was that young. But yeah, it's it's hard, Like people
Speaker 2: get their stuff league all the time, so it's kind
Speaker 2: of just something you have to pretend you don't see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, I mean I know people
Speaker 1: make crazy money. How much money have you made on OnlyFans?
Speaker 2: This is one thing I literally like never talk about,
Speaker 2: but I will say I'm doing pretty well, and like
Speaker 2: I'm really happy with the money that I'm making. Obviously,
Speaker 2: like months fluctuate and like summertime or holidays or like
Speaker 2: when you have like something to dress up where those
Speaker 2: months do really well. But then the months where it's
Speaker 2: just kind of boring and like there's nothing looking forward to,
Speaker 2: those months aren't that good. But like I would say, overall,
Speaker 2: I mean I've been doing it for a while, so
Speaker 2: it's been my mainstream of income for eighteen nineteen twenty Wait,
Speaker 2: how many three years?
Speaker 1: For four years? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Really wait almost four years? Is that really eighteen nineteen
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty three years?
Speaker 1: Three years?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But still well yeah, But then, like you said from there,
Speaker 1: because OnlyFans is your main source of income, and because
Speaker 1: it is a you know, it is a very revealing
Speaker 1: platform that you're on, you said that has affected you
Speaker 1: with other job opportunities. Does that kind of affect you
Speaker 1: with brand deals or like what, like what what does
Speaker 1: it affect you with?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I've never done a brand deal. I would
Speaker 2: love to. I was actually supposed to go to Coachella
Speaker 2: with a brand and then they decided not to. I
Speaker 2: think it's because I do only fans. I wasn't really
Speaker 2: given a reason. I cannot get signed to a modeling
Speaker 2: agency for the life of me. And like, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: not Like I hate saying that because I sound so cocky,
Speaker 2: like why can't I model?
Speaker 1: But like I really like no, But you're also trying
Speaker 1: to bring in other opportunities of income for yourself and
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I don't even want a model for
Speaker 2: the income. I just love the creative side of it.
Speaker 2: In the fashion and like meeting cool people, and like
Speaker 2: I I've met with a good amount of agencies and
Speaker 2: they'll just say like, oh, it's not the right time,
Speaker 2: or like we think you're beautiful, but not the right fit,
Speaker 2: and like they say it without saying it where I
Speaker 2: know it's because of OnlyFans, and like I've seen it
Speaker 2: with like different people that I've like dated, and just
Speaker 2: everyone kind.
Speaker 1: Of has this like how is that. I really wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you about that aspect of it too, but
Speaker 1: we'll finish the job opportunity aspect of it first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't know, It's just I've.
Speaker 1: Kind of seen TikTok is like your other way of
Speaker 1: making income.
Speaker 2: To No, I don't make anything from TikTok. I don't
Speaker 2: really have like I have. I don't even have like
Speaker 2: a good following on TikTok. I just have like random
Speaker 2: followers from like a video that'll do really well. But
Speaker 2: I yeah, I only really make money off of OnlyFans.
Speaker 2: It's definitely been hard. I've just kind of gotten used
Speaker 2: to it and that people will just have this idea
Speaker 2: of me that I'm this like OnlyFans girl, and like
Speaker 2: whatever they think. But yeah, it's definitely like the annoying.
Speaker 1: Part of it for sure. And then yeah, with relationships,
Speaker 1: how does that go? Do you feel like it's not
Speaker 1: like do you feel like going into a relationship you
Speaker 1: really have to have your guard up because you're nervous
Speaker 1: if this person is really in this relationship for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last guy I dated, I had my guard up,
Speaker 2: but not enough. And I think we only dated for
Speaker 2: six months, so clearly it didn't really go that well.
Speaker 2: But I it became very very clear what his intentions
Speaker 2: were and it was like a learning lesson for me
Speaker 2: that I need to be more careful, like he put
Speaker 2: on like a facade and whatever. We don't have to
Speaker 2: get in the whole thing, because that's a whole other story.
Speaker 2: But it became pretty clear what his intentions were and
Speaker 2: I got out of that. And then obviously, like if
Speaker 2: I'm just like meeting people, like I'll notice different guys.
Speaker 2: They'll just like think I'm this crazy girl. I don't
Speaker 2: even know because I don't want to disrespect people. They
Speaker 2: literally will think I'm I will do whatever, and like
Speaker 2: I'm so easy, and like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that almost like you're a sex magnet. You're very easy.
Speaker 1: You'll screw them on the first night, all these all
Speaker 1: these like a stereotype.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like the complete opposite of that. And it's
Speaker 2: really funny when guys find out that I'm not going
Speaker 2: to sleep with them on the first date or the
Speaker 2: second or third or fourth, Like I literally will not
Speaker 2: sleep with someone unless I am labeled as their girlfriend.
Speaker 1: And well, because you probably also think in your head,
Speaker 1: I don't want them to think that they're getting something
Speaker 1: that they're not.
Speaker 2: Also sure, yeah, like there has been times where like
Speaker 2: I won't give them everything they want, but I'll like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how to word this without being like.
Speaker 1: Too, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are times they make it.
Speaker 1: You'll maybe go to like base one or base two,
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna give them a home run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes exactly, But then it's clear that's only what
Speaker 2: they want, and that's not really what I want.
Speaker 1: So I said base one or base two, I meant
Speaker 1: you'll go to first base or second base, but not
Speaker 1: give them home Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like it's just funny because people really don't expect that
Speaker 2: of me, And like.
Speaker 1: It's honestly, that's so good that you do that, because
Speaker 1: that just shows your respect for yourself because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're you also have to every well,
Speaker 1: the guys that you're with, they're gonna love like love
Speaker 1: you for you, love your personality, and love yourself for you.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, this is an income
Speaker 1: and you want that respect when you're going into a
Speaker 1: relationship as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really try and tell people like it sounds funny,
Speaker 2: but this is literally my job and I've been doing
Speaker 2: this for a while now. I have boundaries. I have
Speaker 2: self respect, like get like if you think I'm about
Speaker 2: to like do some crazy stuff or like you're talking
Speaker 2: the wrong girl.
Speaker 1: No, I totally get it. But then your mom joined OnlyFans,
Speaker 1: so obviously your mom was supportive of it. I know
Speaker 1: your dad wasn't. But when you're now, obviously it's been
Speaker 1: three years, I'm sure they've you know, your dad's got
Speaker 1: over it.
Speaker 2: But my dad was not supportive until he saw I
Speaker 2: actually started making income. And like I remember a phone
Speaker 2: call I overheard. It was when I was living back
Speaker 2: at my mom's right when I started only Fans and
Speaker 2: he found out that I started when and he was
Speaker 2: like on speaker saying, I can't wait to tell Sam
Speaker 2: that I was right when she like she thinks she's
Speaker 2: gonna make all this money and get a nice car
Speaker 2: and apartment and move out, and this is in this
Speaker 2: like I can't wait to tell her that she's wrong,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, so yeah.
Speaker 1: You're just waiting to prove them wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I grooped them wrong. And then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, he like turned new leaf and was like,
Speaker 2: I'm really happy for doing this, like it's good for you,
Speaker 2: and I'm like thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then when your mom joined only fans and
Speaker 1: I know your stepdad, Aaron, was he okay with it?
Speaker 1: How was this whole transition of that.
Speaker 2: It's really funny. I never even talked to Erin about
Speaker 2: my mom and fans, but he, I know, like helps
Speaker 2: her with all her contents, so he's very sweet.
Speaker 1: It's so funny.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: You need to find a guy like Aaron. Do you
Speaker 1: do you love your stepdad?
Speaker 2: I mean we're not even that close, so it's hard
Speaker 2: to like, like we don't ever hang out, we never talk,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I feel like that's a stretch, Okay, but
Speaker 2: if he makes her happy, then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom she when I started only fans, she
Speaker 2: didn't really know what it was, and I was like
Speaker 2: trying to explain to her, like I wouldn't be doing
Speaker 2: anything crazy because I really just started off with doing
Speaker 2: like lingerie photos. It was very very new to it.
Speaker 2: I was also very young, and I knew I was young,
Speaker 2: so I didn't want to do anything.
Speaker 1: Comfortability level probably was like not nowhere near.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I had very very very strict boundaries. And
Speaker 2: she was like, I don't agree with it, but I'll
Speaker 2: still support you. And we've never gotten an argument about it.
Speaker 2: And then she saw that I was doing really well
Speaker 2: and she was like, I want to start only fans,
Speaker 2: so she did, and I was so mad at her
Speaker 2: at first.
Speaker 1: Fore you did you feel like this was like this
Speaker 1: is my thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Was like I also have been only known as
Speaker 2: like Denise Richards or Charlie Sheen's daughter, so I was
Speaker 2: so excited. I remember I had my first article come
Speaker 2: out where it was just Sammy Sheen and it wasn't
Speaker 2: like Charlie Sheen's daughter.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, that's so funny. I feel like I deal
Speaker 1: with that so much too. Yeah. Teresa Judice's daughter Gea
Speaker 1: said this, and you know that's why even with this podcast,
Speaker 1: and I have you know, things in the works right
Speaker 1: now for twenty twenty five that I'm super excited about.
Speaker 1: But even me, I'm you know, trying to get into
Speaker 1: my own path. As much as I love my family
Speaker 1: and I will always back them up, support them, have
Speaker 1: them right behind me, x y Z, I'm also trying
Speaker 1: to step into my own as well. So I totally understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really hard making a name for yourself
Speaker 2: when you already have parents who are in the public eye.
Speaker 2: So I was that's why I was like so excited
Speaker 2: to also start this and like have people know me
Speaker 2: for me. And then my mom started one and I
Speaker 2: was like, thank you for taking my spotlight. I was
Speaker 2: so upset and a lot of my subscribers because they
Speaker 2: all subscribed me because they're like, oh, this is like
Speaker 2: the next best thing of like Denise Richards, because like
Speaker 2: they're all like obsessed with her, like wow things era
Speaker 2: and like all that stuff. Yeah, so when she started it,
Speaker 2: oh my god, they flooded to her page from my
Speaker 2: page and I lost so many subscribers at first.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, so that probably was that probably pissed
Speaker 1: you off even more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like mad that she couldn't really
Speaker 2: let me have my moment at first, But now it's
Speaker 2: kind of obviously we have our own fan bases now
Speaker 2: and like we have different content, like so we have
Speaker 2: different fan bases that prefer one or the other. But
Speaker 2: at first it was like crazy, No.
Speaker 1: For sure, I'm sure. So I'm happy that that all
Speaker 1: died down. I'm happy you both now have your moment
Speaker 1: and everyone knows Sammy She and as Sammy She, and
Speaker 1: she has her own platform with also your mom going
Speaker 1: back on Bravo, and now you guys having your own show.
Speaker 1: I know that your relationship with your parents have been
Speaker 1: mushy washy, but I know you said in recent episodes
Speaker 1: you haven't talked to your dad in five months and
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't even want to get lunch with him.
Speaker 1: I know you said you lived with him and all
Speaker 1: of this. It has it turned since then, or do
Speaker 1: you still not speak to him?
Speaker 2: So we haven't we haven't spoken on the phone in
Speaker 2: almost a year, and then we haven't texted in a
Speaker 2: little over six months. I think it we were like fine,
Speaker 2: he was working on his own stuff and like pretty busy,
Speaker 2: so we weren't even that close anymore. But then I
Speaker 2: really got frustrated because it was when I got my
Speaker 2: nose surgery. I was really mad that he couldn't even
Speaker 2: like call me or anything to see if I made
Speaker 2: it out of surgery, which even though it's not like
Speaker 2: a it is a big surgery, but it's not like
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Like life or death. Yeah yeah, but still it's still
Speaker 1: the support of it. Yeah, you're still going under anesthesia.
Speaker 1: The dog the anesthesiologist could give you a little too
Speaker 1: much and something to talk to the worst, like one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. You never know what's gonna happen when you
Speaker 1: go under.
Speaker 2: I was like pretty upset that he didn't call me
Speaker 2: after surgery or he texted me twenty four hours later
Speaker 2: being like, oh, did you make it out okay? And
Speaker 2: I'm like I could have been dead by now, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm fine. Yeah. And then we kind of got into
Speaker 2: it and he was like saying stuff, being like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's not like you got a new kidney, You're fine,
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, thank you for making his words,
Speaker 2: and it really just like tumbled into something really big
Speaker 2: where I had to really distance myself and then yeah,
Speaker 2: we he got I actually had to block him because
Speaker 2: he was sending me some crazy stuff and then he.
Speaker 1: Still deal with addiction problems.
Speaker 2: He's been sober for the past like I want to say,
Speaker 2: like five years now, but I obviously haven't spoken to
Speaker 2: him in a while, so I can't speak. I have
Speaker 2: no idea if he's still sober. I honestly hope the
Speaker 2: stuff he was sending me was because he wasn't sober,
Speaker 2: because I'm like that would at least make it a
Speaker 2: little better. But yeah, so I've had him blocked for
Speaker 2: a minute now. I had to block his email as well,
Speaker 2: and then he actually got a new number on Christmas
Speaker 2: to text me other other crazy stuff where I had
Speaker 2: to block that number. So I'm like, fully, we're done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it hasn't. It kind of went into like
Speaker 1: a full but it didn't stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got pretty bad to where I had to
Speaker 2: like put a stop to it and tell him, like,
Speaker 2: do not contact me ever again because this is crazy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah it's And.
Speaker 2: People are like that's crazy, like you'll take his money
Speaker 2: but you won't speak to him. I'm like, you guys
Speaker 2: make my blood boil. You have no idea? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so we are not speaking, but him and Lola are
Speaker 2: really close and like he always goes over to hers
Speaker 2: and like we'll say hi to her.
Speaker 1: Does that, ever, you know, make you feel a certain
Speaker 1: type of way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a little frustrating that they have.
Speaker 1: Is Lola ever try to help you out and defend
Speaker 1: you in that aspect with your dad?
Speaker 2: No, not really. I think she also just like hates
Speaker 2: getting involved in like arguments and stuff, and she'll like
Speaker 2: tell me, like, well, you only have one dad, like
Speaker 2: you should text him, like of course, you have no
Speaker 2: idea the stuff he was sending me. So it is
Speaker 2: a little frustrating that he will like bring her gifts
Speaker 2: and like go say hi to her, and it's just
Speaker 2: like I don't know, but I think as Lola has
Speaker 2: a harder time like putting her foot down, and like
Speaker 2: she's more she's very like okay, like that's fine, like yeah,
Speaker 2: it's okay, sorry, And I'm more like I absolutely not,
Speaker 2: like I don't have any disrespect. So we're very different
Speaker 2: and nonsense. But I don't blame her because sometimes it
Speaker 2: is a little easier just kind of not dealing with it.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I mean, I get it. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like you in a sense, but then I'm also like,
Speaker 1: h do I want to deal with this right now?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I fully understand when I when
Speaker 1: I am pushed to my breaking point. I really I'm
Speaker 1: just like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it gets to a point where you're like,
Speaker 2: if you have like respect for yourself and like you
Speaker 2: kind of just need to know when it's time to
Speaker 2: put it unto certain things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm really happy that everything in your life
Speaker 1: has been on track for the most part. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that you have to deal with these issues with your dad,
Speaker 1: but hopefully, you know, hopefully one day you guys can
Speaker 1: make amends and move forward. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry what you're going through too. I'm so proud
Speaker 2: of you for your podcast. That's such a big deal
Speaker 2: and like everything you've been like marketing it so it's
Speaker 2: so cute and like I love it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much of course, and you know, with
Speaker 1: only fans, I hope you I wish you the most success,
Speaker 1: and I hope that you do find somebody one day
Speaker 1: who respects you for you, because you really are such
Speaker 1: a beautiful person. And this has been such a fun interview.
Speaker 2: You're so sweet. Thank you so much and this was
Speaker 2: my first podcast by myself.
Speaker 1: Is it? Did I make you feel comfortable?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so sweet.
Speaker 1: Listen, we've both been through a lot. I feel like
Speaker 1: everybody has their story, everybody has their side, everyone has
Speaker 1: their version. But no matter what, this is also what
Speaker 1: has made us the women we are today. You could
Speaker 1: tell that you are very mature for your age, and
Speaker 1: I know, I like we've had to grow up super fast.
Speaker 1: When you deal with a lot of things when you're young,
Speaker 1: it forces you to grow up quickly and it's but
Speaker 1: it makes you listen. It could affect you for the
Speaker 1: worst and we could have both turned to probably pretty
Speaker 1: ugly things from what we've been through. Or you make
Speaker 1: the best out of it and you capitalize on our platforms.
Speaker 1: You try to be your best self and put your
Speaker 1: best foot forward and show the fans who you are.
Speaker 1: So I think we've done a pretty good job.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 1: But Sammy Sheen, thank you so much for being on
Speaker 1: Casual Chaos. This was such a fun episode and we
Speaker 1: are definitely going to hang out soon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't wait. And thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh, no problem.