WEBVTT - Chaos with Sami Sheen

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, I have a super exciting guest that I

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<v Speaker 1>am so excited for you all to see, Sammy Sheen.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Casual Chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, thank you so much for joining. Okay, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unpack. I feel like you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>both grown up in the public eye with very hectic families,

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<v Speaker 1>so I feel like this is something that we both

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<v Speaker 1>can relate to, and dealing with the public is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not easy. So going back to your childhood, both of

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<v Speaker 1>your parents are insanely famous. How was that growing up?

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<v Speaker 2>It was, honestly all I knew, Like I was literally

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<v Speaker 2>born into I think I was on the cover of

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<v Speaker 2>people when I wasn't even like a year old. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, fully, it was like all I knew,

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<v Speaker 2>and I only knew it was weird when I would

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<v Speaker 2>have friends hang out with me and there would be

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<v Speaker 2>like paparazzi and stuff and they would be like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>what you have cameras following you and I'm like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it is not normal. And then as I

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<v Speaker 2>got older, I was like, yeah, this isn't normal, but

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't really hit me until like end of middle

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<v Speaker 2>school and beginning of high school, when kids started finding

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<v Speaker 2>out who my parents were. And you know, you understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course for anyone who doesn't know your dad

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<v Speaker 1>is Charlie Sheen and your mom is Denise Richards. So

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in California and especially you know, your parents

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<v Speaker 1>having this big name, that's surprising to me that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of kids didn't think that this was normal, especially

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<v Speaker 1>because there's famous people flooding California all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know why, because even when I like

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<v Speaker 2>meet someone who's in the public eye or like I

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<v Speaker 2>find out how friend's parents are whoever, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really bat a eye because it's so normal out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So when your parents split, was that a difficult

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<v Speaker 1>time for you? Do you like even really right?

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<v Speaker 2>But I honestly don't even remember. My mom hid so

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<v Speaker 2>much stuff from me. Like there was one year I

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<v Speaker 2>was like asking where my dad was on Christmas and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom told us he was skiing, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>actually in jail. And yeah, I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 2>actually went to jail or if he was on his

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<v Speaker 2>way to jail something with him in jail, But I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was skiing, and I was like, that's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad doesn't even know how to ski. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was so young, so I really don't have that many

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<v Speaker 2>memories of stuff when I was younger, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>my mom did a really good job of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hiding stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was your main protector throughout this entire thing. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>so was my mom too. Okay, so your father went away,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't know that. So were you mainly

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<v Speaker 1>with your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I my dad, like he was not. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>He was not in jail for I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't know the whole story, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>not there for long at all. Like yeah, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like he had like a year sentence or anything. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my whole childhood, I want to say, like the first

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen years, my dad was very like in and out

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<v Speaker 2>of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, he would have been challenging.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure. It was the worst if we had

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<v Speaker 2>like an event and he said he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>show up and then we wouldn't hear from him, or

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<v Speaker 2>he would show up like ten hours late. So we

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just stopped asking him to come to come

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<v Speaker 2>to stuff. But because it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was probably false, hope, and honestly at a young age

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<v Speaker 1>as well, it probably caused a lot of just trauma

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<v Speaker 1>and emotional damage for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, especially because then if he did show up,

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<v Speaker 2>like if we got lucky enough to see him, he

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<v Speaker 2>was most likely under the influence of something. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was it's like, it's sad, but I make humor out

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<v Speaker 2>of it, Like I literally cannot tell you one memory

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<v Speaker 2>from my childhood of him where he's been like sober,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of sad, but yeah, whatever, it's his choice.

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<v Speaker 1>That must have been really challenging just watching him as

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<v Speaker 1>you were growing up and dealing with you know, drug

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<v Speaker 1>addiction and alcohol abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the hardest part was if I wanted, like friends

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<v Speaker 2>to come over, like their parents sometimes wouldn't let them

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<v Speaker 2>because they knew who my dad was, and like rightfully

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<v Speaker 2>so by the kid, I would not let them. But

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<v Speaker 2>that was pretty hard. But it was honestly, like it

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<v Speaker 2>was all I knew. It would have been a lot

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<v Speaker 2>harder if I went from like having a perfect family

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, he's a crazy drug

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<v Speaker 2>addict and we don't get to see him. So it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of helps that it's all I know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it still sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>No, for sure, And I mean, you know, again, this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't your fault. So even hearing that sometimes your friends

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<v Speaker 1>weren't allowed to come over and it affected you like

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<v Speaker 1>during your school years, ultimately like, no, of this was

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<v Speaker 1>your fault, but it kind of falls on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I had the hardest time getting into school.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when I was applying for different high schools, I

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<v Speaker 2>like dreamt of there's a school called Crossroads. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've heard of it. It's I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>remember what area. It's somewhere in LA but it's this

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<v Speaker 2>like beautiful private art to high school. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>my dream to go there. And I had other high

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<v Speaker 2>schools that I wanted to go to, but that one specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>and like no high school would accept me because of

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<v Speaker 2>like stuff my dad has posted in the past about

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<v Speaker 2>like previous schools that I went to. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>one thing where like I still hold a grudge because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, I feel like, I mean, everything happens

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<v Speaker 2>for a reason, But yeah, that one was really difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like how it affected even the schools I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to go to. Yeah, I was just like, why

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<v Speaker 2>can I not, why are they not accepting my applications?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I have straight ags, I'm a grade student. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember my mom had to like write a letter on

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<v Speaker 2>his behalf and like try everything she could to get

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<v Speaker 2>us into these schools. But I had no idea until

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<v Speaker 2>later on. I'm like, so that's why I did not

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<v Speaker 2>get in, and like it, honestly is really nice hearing

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<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't my fault that I didn't get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely reassuring. So your mom was actually on the Real

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<v Speaker 1>Housewives of Beverly Hills as well. She joined the show

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen, and you were sixteen when she joined

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so you honestly know more than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a little cheat cheet.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know you have your homework right there. I

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<v Speaker 2>literally have no idea, but yes, I guess I was sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And how was that? Did you want her to

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<v Speaker 1>join the show? Because from when you were young to

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<v Speaker 1>when she joined the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I

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<v Speaker 1>know your mom has been in plenty of movies, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was in the whole James Bond James Bond movies,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty iconic, but was her career still as

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<v Speaker 1>busy leading up to her joining Beverly Hills. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>excited to kind of jump back into the public eye

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<v Speaker 1>or did you kind of take or did you not really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean she's always been busy. I cannot remember

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<v Speaker 2>a time where she has ever like relaxed further half

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Like that woman is always working twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>to seven. She is the hardest worker I know. And

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<v Speaker 2>so she definitely was still booking jobs and like crazy work.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a crazy work schedule before the Housewives. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was really supportive of her doing it. I was

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<v Speaker 2>really excited for her, and I'm like, Okay, like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make good friends through this, because it's obviously really

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<v Speaker 2>hard making friends when you're in the public eye.

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<v Speaker 1>I never know who you can trust exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was really happy for her. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>had barely seen the show, so I did not really

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<v Speaker 2>know what she was getting herself into. And then after

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<v Speaker 2>the first season, I realized how much of a toll

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<v Speaker 2>the show took on her health and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I she was like debating going back and

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling her, like I've noticed a full one eighty,

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<v Speaker 2>like do not do this to yourself, Like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>worth it, Like these women fight like no tomorrow, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you don't deserve this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I'm crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah I so after the first season and after

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<v Speaker 2>I was around them when they were filming it, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this is so toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean also, I feel so were you

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<v Speaker 1>very involved when your mom was filming, not necessarily with

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<v Speaker 1>the women, but with her at home?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh sometimes they filmed us here and there. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being so nervous to be on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so shy when I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 3>so I hated it. I would if I came home

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<v Speaker 3>and the cameras were on her, I literally would like

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<v Speaker 3>cover my face and run to my room and like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was so funny. My sister Gabriella yea, yeah, so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was like super.

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<v Speaker 1>Private, so she would be like no, no, no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>and like run upstairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>So then, knowing that you hated it, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>a super crazy scene happened with some of the housewives,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know your mom got really upset about it

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<v Speaker 1>when they were talking about a threesome in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you and you were with your friends, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were playing with Barbie's. There were barbies on

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<v Speaker 2>the table, like Eloise was playing with the barbies and

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<v Speaker 2>we literally, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My gosh, so your little little sister was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, Yeah, Elouise was there. But it was just funny

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<v Speaker 2>because like there was Elouise was like playing with her barbies,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were obviously playing with barbies, but not in

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<v Speaker 2>a PG Barbie way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, being funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we hear them talking about three, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was really like, that's really funny. We're both having like

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<v Speaker 2>the same conversations right now. But they didn't have mics

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<v Speaker 2>on us. They don't they couldn't hear what we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. And so I turned when they said, like

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was eric I who said something, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, that's so funny. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what was said, but like obviously, like we're in

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<v Speaker 2>high school, we know what a threesome was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom got so mad because she was so like

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<v Speaker 2>so classing, like you're not allot to talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't say this and like that around my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, little did she know we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it did it didn't even Oh, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Crossed your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, that's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so funny, and I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I mean, for your mom's perspective, she was probably

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<v Speaker 1>just so mad and didn't want that to even be

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<v Speaker 1>spoken about around her.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids, probably because we've never heard her talk about any

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<v Speaker 2>of that stuff around us. So it was definitely like

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like relieving to know that my

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<v Speaker 2>mom also like has these conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>With her friends and like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Normal thing to talk about. But she probably was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, my kids, like in poor Eloise, but

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<v Speaker 2>Eloise isn't She was so distracted with her dolls she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>She probably wasn't even paying attention. Yeah, you weren't even

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<v Speaker 1>really involved. You guys were kind of just overhearing it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you thought it was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I don't even I don't even think. I

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<v Speaker 2>was barely barely on camera during that and I hardly

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<v Speaker 2>ever talked to any of the girls besides unless they

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<v Speaker 2>was like off camera obviously, and like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel a little more comfortable. Have you experienced Bravo fans?

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<v Speaker 2>I have dealt with them online and they're horrible, horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get so much hate all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's so hard to deal with. Ye, but it's fans,

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<v Speaker 1>like it is the Bravo fans. I love them, they're loyal,

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<v Speaker 1>But if they're not on your side or they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like something that you did, meanwhile, it's not their life.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they loved you as a person and supported

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<v Speaker 1>you as a fan, they should accept your decision and

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<v Speaker 1>respect it and watch you grow in life. Instead, I

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<v Speaker 1>get ripped to shreds all the time. I could literally

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<v Speaker 1>give you five examples, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Terry, you're so sweet, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I definitely have had my moments on The

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<v Speaker 1>Real Housewives in New Jersey just because not really, not

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<v Speaker 1>even in a bad way. It was always out of

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<v Speaker 1>defense for my mom. So there I dealt with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of family drama on The Real Housewives in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of the main reason why I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that The Real house Is in New Jersey is

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<v Speaker 1>on pause right now. Really, yeah, we're on hold, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're on pause, and it's kind of because Jersey needs

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<v Speaker 1>a wake up calling away to just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it was family drama between my mom and her brother.

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<v Speaker 1>But this family drama has been going on for ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's sick of it. We don't want to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore. And this is our real life, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we are going through, so we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with it, and nonetheless the fans are sick of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like this same story that's on repeat and

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<v Speaker 1>it's boring, it's getting old. You need to find something new.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's everybody's talking about my mom. Nobody has

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<v Speaker 1>anything else to talk about besides my mom. Everyone wants

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<v Speaker 1>to gring up on my mom and try to tear

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<v Speaker 1>her down and say things about her marriage. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just this constant attack on my mom and it's toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so tiring, honestly. So I think Bravo was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to do things on our back end.

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<v Speaker 1>You girls need to reflect and see how you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to proceed to basically create a show that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be enjoyable to watch and sustainable for the fans

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. But I've had my moments with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my family, which have all been raw and real, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have fans that say that I was disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 1>I have fans that say, you're not a housewife. I

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<v Speaker 1>have fans that say, no, you're place. But all of

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<v Speaker 1>these times when I have ever spoken out, or when

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<v Speaker 1>I have ever said something out of frustration or anger,

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<v Speaker 1>that was all real. It was me dealing with my family.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all real moments that just came out naturally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they just haven't and they happen to be

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<v Speaker 1>on camera. And then it's constant stop with the filler,

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<v Speaker 1>Stop with lip filler, stop with this, stop with that.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing to your face? You look crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>And between you and I, I mean, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be aired, but I've said it a million times. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you after this to go look up a bit

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<v Speaker 1>picture of me when I was little. I've never gotten

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<v Speaker 1>lip filler in my life. Oh you haven't, no natural lips?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I get lip filler all the time because

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's okay, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay even if you don't even have lipfil Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are they likes a cute now filler?

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<v Speaker 2>That's so boring?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, no, like people are bored. It's it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's constant comments all the time. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I have gotten done was my nose, Okay, how

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<v Speaker 1>was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I got mine done too.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly, I was okay, really yeah, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up when they went in. They had to break

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<v Speaker 1>my nose and like do a little more than they expected.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean I loved it. I lost ten pounds

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<v Speaker 1>after the surgery because you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Eat Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like it was hard. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>eating pastina and I would drink a case of water

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<v Speaker 1>I think every day because with that little cotton thing

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<v Speaker 1>under your nose, and you would constantly breathe out of

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth, so my mouth was so dry.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have those like things stuff stuffed up your nose? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, Okay, we I only had them for like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours. But okay, I've seen girls have it

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<v Speaker 2>for like a week and it looks like hell. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then know that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was very open about it. I posted

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<v Speaker 1>about it on my Instagram because I feel like if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm open about what I get done, people will have

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<v Speaker 1>less to say yes I'm wrong, because they still they

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<v Speaker 1>still say what they want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>They will pick apart any little thing, like the other

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<v Speaker 2>day someone was saying, my forehead is too small. I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had a bigger forehead, you would say it's

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<v Speaker 2>too big, like way around my forehead. Why do these

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<v Speaker 2>people like tear me to shreds for literally absolutely everything

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<v Speaker 2>I do? It's crazy. So I started just like h

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<v Speaker 2>like not feeding into it, but kind of like mocking them.

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<v Speaker 1>In a way of like, I mean, if you find

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<v Speaker 1>humor out of it, it's sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny because like I'll post something knowing like

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to piss people off, but like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what more can they possibly say? I did not know you.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess everyone in the public eye gets hated on

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<v Speaker 2>for no reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure, literally for no reason. It's terrible. What

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<v Speaker 1>have you gotten anything else done?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I actually just posted a TikTok because people like

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<v Speaker 2>the episode just aired where I got my nose done,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone was flooding my comments like this is so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what's sad? I'm happy?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I don't you need to do what makes

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<v Speaker 1>you happy? I was so unhappy with my nose. I

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<v Speaker 1>hated it, and I got my nose done. I was

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was twenty, Oh, I was twenty when

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<v Speaker 1>I got my nose done. Yeah, it's been.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of years now, Okay, Yeah, I got I

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<v Speaker 2>started with lip filler when I was like eighteen, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>went to the wrong person how to get it, dissolved

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<v Speaker 2>to start over. And then before I got my nose done,

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<v Speaker 2>I discovered nose filler so they would like fill the

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<v Speaker 2>tip and try and make it look cuter. But the

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<v Speaker 2>guy literally told me like, you're gonna need a rhino

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<v Speaker 2>pasty to get the look that you want. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, thanks for being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then I went through all this work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that that one hurt, Like getting nose filler,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's like as bad. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>got my boobs done almost. No. I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>like a year and a half ago, I should have

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<v Speaker 2>gone bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so upset your boobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the surgeon talked me down in size and no

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<v Speaker 2>because I relaps are not in. I love big boobs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because my torso is so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I say, I have a short torso. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if I ever got my boobs done, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go so big. I feel like I'm crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if I was more petite like shorter

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<v Speaker 2>and like more condensed. I would my boobs would fill up,

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<v Speaker 2>but because like my torso so long, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>wish I went bigger, but whatever, they're still nice. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I got veneers, like a year ago. Wow, I

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<v Speaker 2>did my I got my dad's teeth. He has a

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<v Speaker 2>full mouth of veneers. So I only did the front

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<v Speaker 2>eight ones just because I or I only did the

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<v Speaker 2>front eight just because I went through like braces I

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<v Speaker 2>did in vizil line twice, I would whiteen them like

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<v Speaker 2>I just could not get the look I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>So I felt like I'm doing in biziline right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really it sucks. And those like little bumps they

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<v Speaker 2>have to put on your teeth, well.

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<v Speaker 1>That and I noticed it and pictures it bothers me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was so sick of that. And like after

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<v Speaker 2>I got my vicilne off, I still hate in my teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, I'll just get freaking veneers. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was at the dentist and I saw a photo

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<v Speaker 2>of like a big white smile and I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>want those teeth. Yeah, and literally a week later I

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<v Speaker 2>got it. And then I got my nose done in

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<v Speaker 2>August and that's it. It's all. It's a lot. But

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<v Speaker 2>compared to some other people, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Me listen filler and botox, I feel like it's so

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<v Speaker 1>as much as people want to hate on it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>also very normalized. You need to do what makes you happy.

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<v Speaker 1>And your rhino plasti surgery it looks so natural.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter what you've gotten done, you've done it very naturally.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound like cool, Like I just want like little enhancements,

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<v Speaker 2>but those little enhancements like they're kind of big things.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 1>The difference and whatever makes you happy. As long as

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up every morning look at yourself in the mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>you can give yourself a high five and say that

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<v Speaker 1>you're beauty and you feel confident in your own skined

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<v Speaker 1>I stand by that whatever makes you happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I agree. I was really confident before I

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<v Speaker 2>had any work done. Like it wasn't like I needed

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<v Speaker 2>something Like I hated my nose, but I made it work,

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<v Speaker 2>and I yeah, if I can't get a nose rob

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay. But like I still had confidence, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's like such a huge thing that like girls

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<v Speaker 2>need to really be happy with themselves before they get

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<v Speaker 2>plastic surgery or any work done, because like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>insecurity comes from like really like deep rooted within you,

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<v Speaker 2>and like a nose job isn't going to fix all

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<v Speaker 2>your insecurities and it's not going to like like it'll

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<v Speaker 2>definitely like add confidence, but I think you need to

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<v Speaker 2>really be confident and like love yourself before getting any

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<v Speaker 2>work done. And that's like what so many people don't realize.

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<v Speaker 2>So at least I was like, I actually love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love everything that you just said.

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<v Speaker 2>I just because I didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's true. If you have deep rooted issues and

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<v Speaker 1>you're insecure with yourself and you think that fixing these

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<v Speaker 1>changes are going to fix your insecurities, they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because everyone always comments like you need to respect

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and be happy with yourself. I'm like, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>happy with myself. I just finally am able to like

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<v Speaker 2>get a noose job. Like there's nothing wrong with like

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<v Speaker 2>wan wanting a little enhancement.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like everyone needs to tell everyone's happy. Life

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<v Speaker 1>is life, and if you are a real fan, please

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<v Speaker 1>just support us in a loving way. We love the

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>supportive fans. And if you don't have anything nice to comment,

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<v Speaker 1>just don't comment it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like write it like on a piece of paper

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<v Speaker 2>and burn it. Ors on me, Like, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to do in my comments?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's come to the point where I literally filter

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<v Speaker 1>the words oh sameilters, Like it's so sad. But then

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the haters also are the people who follow you, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm like, why if you hate me so much?

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<v Speaker 2>It's all jealousy like and you know that, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to remember that when you read something you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my.

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<v Speaker 1>God, Like it's just it gets you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>have never been one to really dwell on the comment

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<v Speaker 1>section or make it affect me, but it after you're

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<v Speaker 1>reading it time after time again and you're really sitting there.

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<v Speaker 1>You want people to go to your content and enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 1>watch it, love it, comment on it, ask you questions,

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<v Speaker 1>but to go to your comment section and get that

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<v Speaker 1>feedback from your content, it's just it's honestly discouraging. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little disappointing. Yes, exactly, it really does. It really does.

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<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, bravo fans love love you love hate relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I love the ones that are super supportive,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have only seen a few of those, the

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 2>main ones I get are like, you're so mean to

0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.560
<v Speaker 2>your sister. Treat your family better. I'm like, you guys

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 2>like this happens to just be on camera, like we're

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 2>a normal, like we fight.

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand, but then they should also they want reality.

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>This is reality, this is life. If you're telling me

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that you don't fight with your sister or brother, you're crazy.

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh literally, And like there was a lot of fights

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that me and Lola had that didn't make it on

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 2>the show, But what made it on the show was

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 2>us after a fight. So I was in a bad

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 2>mood and then I didn't want to talk to her.

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 2>And then that's when people are like, you're so mean

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>to your sister, Like if only you knew what was

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 2>said before the cameras were wrong.

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, there's like eighty percent that's really shown you

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know the other. Yeah, I mean there's twenty percent

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that's really shown you don't know the other eighty literally

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:56.200
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. In twenty twenty one, when you were

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Speaker 1>only seventeen, you publicly said you were moving out of

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>your mom's house to move in with your dad, and

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that your mom's house was a hell house, Why did

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you want to move out? And what has changed since then?

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've like had a really difficult relationship with

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>both my parents, but it was I was living at

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>my mom's obviously with Aaron and Lola, and like we

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:26.360
<v Speaker 2>were all fighting constantly. I did not get along with anyone.

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 2>I kind of felt like the odd one out, and

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 2>being the older sister, the blame was like always thrown

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:36.879
<v Speaker 2>on me for everything. Yea, And yeah, it was just

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I was really struggling mentally in that house. And there's

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 2>obviously a lot that I wish I could say, get

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>in trouble, but yeah, I just felt like at the time,

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.119
<v Speaker 2>me and my dad were on good terms and it

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 2>was a more peaceful environment, so I wanted to try

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 2>out living there and like it was great till it

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 2>wasn't and then I figured it out And yeah.

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, do you regret making that so public?

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but only because it reached the wrong side of TikTok.

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Like there's the right side of TikTok and the wrong

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 2>side of TikTok. I feel like if you're like like

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>sometimes we'll post something, I'll literally say like I hope

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 2>this reaches the right audience. So I think the wrong

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 2>people saw that and like took it and ran with it.

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, one like it's rough. No, no, but it's

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 1>rough if it does reach the wrong side, because then

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you just get ripped to shreds.

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was expecting girls my age and be like,

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.400
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, like I'm in the same boat as you,

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I also don't get along with my mom, like

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 2>this is this but no, people were like, how dare

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you have? It's so nice. I'm like, you guys have

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>no idea, Like what goes on behind closed doors is crazy.

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Of course, and everyone can judge, but especially being a child,

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like every child has gone through that period

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>where you want to move out. There has been multiple

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>times as a child, I've packed my bags and I've

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>been like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm never coming back,

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's just frustration. It's when you're young. I think

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a mix of wanting to leave, immaturity, trying to

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 1>escape the feelings. It's a bunch of things. And you

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>and your mom obviously made it back to have a

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>great relationship.

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah we didn't speak for almost a year, Oh wow,

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and great.

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>We're just and how was that time when you were

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>with your dad. Was that okay?

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, obviously he loved that I was like taking his

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>side now after all these years, and like he was

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 2>the favorite parent. But I think, I mean, I don't know.

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 2>I kind of was just able to like find not

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>obviously not fully I was so young, but like start

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 2>to find myself and like have my own space in

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>my own environment, and like he keeps to himself, I

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 2>kept myself Like it was like nice until I was

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 2>just like really lonely and like I was like, this

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 2>is not working. My mom's was not working. So I

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 2>lived with a friend for a little bit, and then

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I went back to my mom's, okay, right after I

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 2>turned eighteen, and I just was like I cannot do this.

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>So that's when I started holding fans. And I got

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.719
<v Speaker 2>an apartment a month later and been living in an

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>apartment ever since. Not the same one, but yeah, I

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 2>haven't gone back.

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So then that was Yeah, so you started only

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.360
<v Speaker 1>fans when you were eighteen. That was in twenty twenty two.

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Is this kind of the main reason why you started?

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, I fully started just because I didn't know

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>what to do, because I was just so unhappy and

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't have like every living situation I was

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 2>in was very chaotic, and I didn't have like a home.

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess I didn't feel like a home. And I

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>was like, I just want my own space so bad,

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>like I'm tired of X, Y and Z. So I

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know what job in this economy

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>will give me an apartment. So and I didn't get

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>any help from my parents, Like if I did, I

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>would have probably gotten a regular job. But I was

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>fully I've been fully on my own, like financially since

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen, So I kind of was like, I

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>need to be a smart business woman. Here take it

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 2>to my advantage. I have parents in the public eye,

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 2>like people already know my name, so might as well

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>do only fans because I know it's doing really well

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>right now for other people. And it did, and it

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>really got me on my feet, and like it's affected

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of opportunities because it's not the classiest look,

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.719
<v Speaker 2>but I'm still really grateful for it, and it's like

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>such it's given me a lot of confidence for.

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Sure when that all started, because like you said, each

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>living situation was kind of toxic and causing a lot

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of turmoil to you, did you feel like that was

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>your only option because you're like, where your parent's not

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>going to give you the financial funds to move out?

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I felt like it was. It really was my

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 2>only option if.

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I like, it was like, if you don't want to

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>live with us, we're not going to give you the funds,

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>so figure it out or else you're like on your own. Basically, Yeah,

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what it was. Yeah.

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>People always comment like it's crazy you how to do this,

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>like you have daddy's money. I'm like, I really where

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I wish? Yeah, it would be nice.

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so then from there it kind of popped off.

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>But then at one point, I know, you referred to

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>yourself as a sex worker. Why why did you do that?

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well because like people always like view sex work

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>as like you're going like an escort or like an

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>actual like sex worker. But I made sure I like

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 2>did my research and like looked up every definitely everything

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>to make sure I wasn't saying anything wrong. But technically,

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>like selling explicit images of yourself online two men is

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>considered sex work, and that's why I was just saying that.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>We were just trying to cover proper terminology. Yeah.

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I literally was just like well when I was trying

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 2>to hook the audience to like be like.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh that definitely oh yeah.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>But just in the wrong way because I didn't realize,

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>like obviously, like this generation is more familiar with like

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>those terms with the older generation. Here's sex worker. They're like, what, like, yeah,

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>sex worker? Like no, I just do only fans like

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I've been doing only fans, like I just this is

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>my first time saying it what it is. So yeah,

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I got my mom flipped her with me when I

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>said that, and I like screenshot the definition on Google

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and send it to her and I'm like, it's not

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>what I meant.

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I prom And then I know one thing we say

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>it gets twisted and word doomed. Yeah, but what kind

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of content do you post on OnlyFans? Do you have

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a boundary to what you post? Is there anything that

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you won't go past?

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll never do like I've never ever ever done

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 2>a sex tape. I've never done like, I don't know.

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I just keep it very classy while still giving people

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>their their money's worth, if that makes sense. But nudity, yeah,

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>there is nudity, but not full full, full nudity, got it? Okay,

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't know. They're like I feel like

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I give people their money's worth, and like I'll tell

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 2>them like these are my boundaries. Like people will request

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>the craziest things and I'm like, just.

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Get requested feet picks.

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh I sell my feet pigs.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>That's like that's your easy money.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>And people love my feet. I honestly do have really

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>cute feets. I don't blame them, but they request some

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>weird things like put in the toilet.

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why does that all have the weirdest bet?

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Why did that party on my foot going into a toilet?

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Like that's weird, but okay, Like yeah, I know. But

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the other stuff that they've requested where I'm like that

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 2>it's just really crossing the line. I'm like, there's other

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 2>girls who will give you that. No judge, it's just

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 2>not my thing.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And is there like something they sign where your stuff

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 1>cannot go public?

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>No, there's not. I have like a disclaimer on my

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>page and it has my like watermark on it, like

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>OnlyFans dot com sash sa machine is plastered on every

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>single piece of content that I sell on there. But

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>people will still screenshot it and my stuff, and like

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I have a whole team that does take down leak stuff,

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 2>but there's so much where it's like and like a

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of my lead stuff was when I was like

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>literally just eighteen. I'm like, oh my god, like I

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>look so weird and like, eugh, I was so young.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I wish I didn't have to start it when I

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>was that young. But yeah, it's it's hard, Like people

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>get their stuff league all the time, so it's kind

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 2>of just something you have to pretend you don't see.

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, I mean I know people

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>make crazy money. How much money have you made on OnlyFans?

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 2>This is one thing I literally like never talk about,

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 2>but I will say I'm doing pretty well, and like

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm really happy with the money that I'm making. Obviously,

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>like months fluctuate and like summertime or holidays or like

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 2>when you have like something to dress up where those

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>months do really well. But then the months where it's

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>just kind of boring and like there's nothing looking forward to,

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>those months aren't that good. But like I would say, overall,

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean I've been doing it for a while, so

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 2>it's been my mainstream of income for eighteen nineteen twenty Wait,

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>how many three years?

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 1>For four years? Yeah?

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Really wait almost four years? Is that really eighteen nineteen

0:34:56.800 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty three years?

0:34:58.320 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Three years?

0:34:59.040 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:03.479
<v Speaker 1>But still well yeah, But then, like you said from there,

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>because OnlyFans is your main source of income, and because

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it is a you know, it is a very revealing

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>platform that you're on, you said that has affected you

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>with other job opportunities. Does that kind of affect you

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>with brand deals or like what, like what what does

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it affect you with?

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So I've never done a brand deal. I would

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>love to. I was actually supposed to go to Coachella

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 2>with a brand and then they decided not to. I

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 2>think it's because I do only fans. I wasn't really

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.280
<v Speaker 2>given a reason. I cannot get signed to a modeling

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 2>agency for the life of me. And like, okay, I'm

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>not Like I hate saying that because I sound so cocky,

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>like why can't I model?

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>But like I really like no, But you're also trying

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to bring in other opportunities of income for yourself and

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of hard.

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like I don't even want a model for

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the income. I just love the creative side of it.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 2>In the fashion and like meeting cool people, and like

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 2>I I've met with a good amount of agencies and

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.240
<v Speaker 2>they'll just say like, oh, it's not the right time,

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 2>or like we think you're beautiful, but not the right fit,

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 2>and like they say it without saying it where I

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 2>know it's because of OnlyFans, and like I've seen it

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 2>with like different people that I've like dated, and just

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>everyone kind.

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Of has this like how is that. I really wanted

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 1>to ask you about that aspect of it too, but

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll finish the job opportunity aspect of it first.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I don't know, It's just I've.

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Kind of seen TikTok is like your other way of

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 1>making income.

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 2>To No, I don't make anything from TikTok. I don't

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>really have like I have. I don't even have like

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>a good following on TikTok. I just have like random

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>followers from like a video that'll do really well. But

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I only really make money off of OnlyFans.

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.439
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely been hard. I've just kind of gotten used

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to it and that people will just have this idea

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 2>of me that I'm this like OnlyFans girl, and like

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 2>whatever they think. But yeah, it's definitely like the annoying.

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Part of it for sure. And then yeah, with relationships,

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>how does that go? Do you feel like it's not

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 1>like do you feel like going into a relationship you

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>really have to have your guard up because you're nervous

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.479
<v Speaker 1>if this person is really in this relationship for you.

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the last guy I dated, I had my guard up,

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 2>but not enough. And I think we only dated for

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:34.760
<v Speaker 2>six months, so clearly it didn't really go that well.

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 2>But I it became very very clear what his intentions

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>were and it was like a learning lesson for me

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 2>that I need to be more careful, like he put

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>on like a facade and whatever. We don't have to

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 2>get in the whole thing, because that's a whole other story.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.399
<v Speaker 2>But it became pretty clear what his intentions were and

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I got out of that. And then obviously, like if

0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like meeting people, like I'll notice different guys.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>They'll just like think I'm this crazy girl. I don't

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 2>even know because I don't want to disrespect people. They

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 2>literally will think I'm I will do whatever, and like

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm so easy, and like.

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that almost like you're a sex magnet. You're very easy.

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>You'll screw them on the first night, all these all

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>these like a stereotype.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like the complete opposite of that. And it's

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 2>really funny when guys find out that I'm not going

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 2>to sleep with them on the first date or the

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>second or third or fourth, Like I literally will not

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 2>sleep with someone unless I am labeled as their girlfriend.

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And well, because you probably also think in your head,

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want them to think that they're getting something

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that they're not.

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Also sure, yeah, like there has been times where like

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I won't give them everything they want, but I'll like,

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to word this without being like.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Too, I get what you're saying.

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there are times they make it.

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>You'll maybe go to like base one or base two,

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>but you're not gonna give them a home run.

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes exactly, But then it's clear that's only what

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>they want, and that's not really what I want.

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>So I said base one or base two, I meant

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you'll go to first base or second base, but not

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>give them home Yeah.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just funny because people really don't expect that

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 2>of me, And like.

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>It's honestly, that's so good that you do that, because

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>that just shows your respect for yourself because at the

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, you're you also have to every well,

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the guys that you're with, they're gonna love like love

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you for you, love your personality, and love yourself for you.

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, this is an income

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and you want that respect when you're going into a

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>relationship as well.

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I really try and tell people like it sounds funny,

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>but this is literally my job and I've been doing

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>this for a while now. I have boundaries. I have

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>self respect, like get like if you think I'm about

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to like do some crazy stuff or like you're talking

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 2>the wrong girl.

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>No, I totally get it. But then your mom joined OnlyFans,

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>so obviously your mom was supportive of it. I know

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 1>your dad wasn't. But when you're now, obviously it's been

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>three years, I'm sure they've you know, your dad's got

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>over it.

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 2>But my dad was not supportive until he saw I

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 2>actually started making income. And like I remember a phone

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>call I overheard. It was when I was living back

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 2>at my mom's right when I started only Fans and

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 2>he found out that I started when and he was

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 2>like on speaker saying, I can't wait to tell Sam

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that I was right when she like she thinks she's

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna make all this money and get a nice car

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 2>and apartment and move out, and this is in this

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 2>like I can't wait to tell her that she's wrong,

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, okay, so yeah.

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>You're just waiting to prove them wrong.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I grooped them wrong. And then all of

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, he like turned new leaf and was like,

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm really happy for doing this, like it's good for you,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:05.280
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like thanks.

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then when your mom joined only fans and

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I know your stepdad, Aaron, was he okay with it?

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>How was this whole transition of that.

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It's really funny. I never even talked to Erin about

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 2>my mom and fans, but he, I know, like helps

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 2>her with all her contents, so he's very sweet.

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>It's so funny.

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>You need to find a guy like Aaron. Do you

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>do you love your stepdad?

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean we're not even that close, so it's hard

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 2>to like, like we don't ever hang out, we never talk,

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I feel like that's a stretch, Okay, but

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>if he makes her happy, then.

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course.

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my mom she when I started only fans, she

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't really know what it was, and I was like

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 2>trying to explain to her, like I wouldn't be doing

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>anything crazy because I really just started off with doing

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 2>like lingerie photos. It was very very new to it.

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 2>I was also very young, and I knew I was young,

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't want to do anything.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Comfortability level probably was like not nowhere near.

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I had very very very strict boundaries. And

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 2>she was like, I don't agree with it, but I'll

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 2>still support you. And we've never gotten an argument about it.

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 2>And then she saw that I was doing really well

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and she was like, I want to start only fans,

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 2>so she did, and I was so mad at her

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>at first.

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Fore you did you feel like this was like this

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:27.439
<v Speaker 1>is my thing?

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Was like I also have been only known as

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 2>like Denise Richards or Charlie Sheen's daughter, so I was

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>so excited. I remember I had my first article come

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 2>out where it was just Sammy Sheen and it wasn't

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like Charlie Sheen's daughter.

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wait, that's so funny. I feel like I deal

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>with that so much too. Yeah. Teresa Judice's daughter Gea

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>said this, and you know that's why even with this podcast,

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and I have you know, things in the works right

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>now for twenty twenty five that I'm super excited about.

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>But even me, I'm you know, trying to get into

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 1>my own path. As much as I love my family

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and I will always back them up, support them, have

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>them right behind me, x y Z, I'm also trying

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to step into my own as well. So I totally understand.

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really really hard making a name for yourself

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 2>when you already have parents who are in the public eye.

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>So I was that's why I was like so excited

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 2>to also start this and like have people know me

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>for me. And then my mom started one and I

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 2>was like, thank you for taking my spotlight. I was

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 2>so upset and a lot of my subscribers because they

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>all subscribed me because they're like, oh, this is like

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 2>the next best thing of like Denise Richards, because like

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.919
<v Speaker 2>they're all like obsessed with her, like wow things era

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 2>and like all that stuff. Yeah, so when she started it,

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, they flooded to her page from my

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>page and I lost so many subscribers at first.

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. Yeah, so that probably was that probably pissed

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you off even more.

0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was just like mad that she couldn't really

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 2>let me have my moment at first, But now it's

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of obviously we have our own fan bases now

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 2>and like we have different content, like so we have

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 2>different fan bases that prefer one or the other. But

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 2>at first it was like crazy, No.

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>For sure, I'm sure. So I'm happy that that all

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>died down. I'm happy you both now have your moment

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and everyone knows Sammy She and as Sammy She, and

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>she has her own platform with also your mom going

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.280
<v Speaker 1>back on Bravo, and now you guys having your own show.

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I know that your relationship with your parents have been

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>mushy washy, but I know you said in recent episodes

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you haven't talked to your dad in five months and

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that you wouldn't even want to get lunch with him.

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I know you said you lived with him and all

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of this. It has it turned since then, or do

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you still not speak to him?

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>So we haven't we haven't spoken on the phone in

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 2>almost a year, and then we haven't texted in a

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>little over six months. I think it we were like fine,

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:16.280
<v Speaker 2>he was working on his own stuff and like pretty busy,

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 2>so we weren't even that close anymore. But then I

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>really got frustrated because it was when I got my

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 2>nose surgery. I was really mad that he couldn't even

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 2>like call me or anything to see if I made

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it out of surgery, which even though it's not like

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>a it is a big surgery, but it's not like

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:36.399
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Like life or death. Yeah yeah, but still it's still

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the support of it. Yeah, you're still going under anesthesia.

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>The dog the anesthesiologist could give you a little too

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 1>much and something to talk to the worst, like one

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. You never know what's gonna happen when you

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>go under.

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like pretty upset that he didn't call me

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 2>after surgery or he texted me twenty four hours later

0:45:57.880 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 2>being like, oh, did you make it out okay? And

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm like I could have been dead by now, but yeah,

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine. Yeah. And then we kind of got into

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 2>it and he was like saying stuff, being like, oh,

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not like you got a new kidney, You're fine,

0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, okay, thank you for making his words,

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 2>and it really just like tumbled into something really big

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:21.280
<v Speaker 2>where I had to really distance myself and then yeah,

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:27.240
<v Speaker 2>we he got I actually had to block him because

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 2>he was sending me some crazy stuff and then he.

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Still deal with addiction problems.

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 2>He's been sober for the past like I want to say,

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 2>like five years now, but I obviously haven't spoken to

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 2>him in a while, so I can't speak. I have

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 2>no idea if he's still sober. I honestly hope the

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff he was sending me was because he wasn't sober,

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 2>because I'm like that would at least make it a

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 2>little better. But yeah, so I've had him blocked for

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.840
<v Speaker 2>a minute now. I had to block his email as well,

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and then he actually got a new number on Christmas

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to text me other other crazy stuff where I had

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 2>to block that number. So I'm like, fully, we're done.

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it hasn't. It kind of went into like

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a full but it didn't stop.

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I got pretty bad to where I had to

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 2>like put a stop to it and tell him, like,

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 2>do not contact me ever again because this is crazy.

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah it's And.

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 2>People are like that's crazy, like you'll take his money

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<v Speaker 2>but you won't speak to him. I'm like, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>make my blood boil. You have no idea? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so we are not speaking, but him and Lola are

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<v Speaker 2>really close and like he always goes over to hers

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<v Speaker 2>and like we'll say hi to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that, ever, you know, make you feel a certain

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<v Speaker 1>type of way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is a little frustrating that they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Lola ever try to help you out and defend

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<v Speaker 1>you in that aspect with your dad?

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<v Speaker 2>No, not really. I think she also just like hates

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>getting involved in like arguments and stuff, and she'll like

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 2>tell me, like, well, you only have one dad, like

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<v Speaker 2>you should text him, like of course, you have no

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 2>idea the stuff he was sending me. So it is

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<v Speaker 2>a little frustrating that he will like bring her gifts

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<v Speaker 2>and like go say hi to her, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, but I think as Lola has

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<v Speaker 2>a harder time like putting her foot down, and like

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<v Speaker 2>she's more she's very like okay, like that's fine, like yeah,

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 2>it's okay, sorry, And I'm more like I absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't have any disrespect. So we're very different

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<v Speaker 2>and nonsense. But I don't blame her because sometimes it

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.479
<v Speaker 2>is a little easier just kind of not dealing with it.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. I mean, I get it. I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you in a sense, but then I'm also like,

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<v Speaker 1>h do I want to deal with this right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I fully understand when I when

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<v Speaker 1>I am pushed to my breaking point. I really I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it gets to a point where you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have like respect for yourself and like you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just need to know when it's time to

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<v Speaker 2>put it unto certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I'm really happy that everything in your life

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:20.200
<v Speaker 1>has been on track for the most part. I'm sorry

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:22.959
<v Speaker 1>that you have to deal with these issues with your dad,

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<v Speaker 1>but hopefully, you know, hopefully one day you guys can

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<v Speaker 1>make amends and move forward. But we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry what you're going through too. I'm so proud

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<v Speaker 2>of you for your podcast. That's such a big deal

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and like everything you've been like marketing it so it's

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<v Speaker 2>so cute and like I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much of course, and you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>only fans, I hope you I wish you the most success,

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that you do find somebody one day

0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.560
<v Speaker 1>who respects you for you, because you really are such

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful person. And this has been such a fun interview.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so sweet. Thank you so much and this was

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<v Speaker 2>my first podcast by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Did I make you feel comfortable?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, we've both been through a lot. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has their story, everybody has their side, everyone has

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>their version. But no matter what, this is also what

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<v Speaker 1>has made us the women we are today. You could

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>tell that you are very mature for your age, and

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I know, I like we've had to grow up super fast.

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<v Speaker 1>When you deal with a lot of things when you're young,

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 1>it forces you to grow up quickly and it's but

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it makes you listen. It could affect you for the

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>worst and we could have both turned to probably pretty

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>ugly things from what we've been through. Or you make

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the best out of it and you capitalize on our platforms.

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:52.680
<v Speaker 1>You try to be your best self and put your

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<v Speaker 1>best foot forward and show the fans who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we've done a pretty good job.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too.

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.880
<v Speaker 1>But Sammy Sheen, thank you so much for being on

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Casual Chaos. This was such a fun episode and we

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:08.359
<v Speaker 1>are definitely going to hang out soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I can't wait. And thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no problem.