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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 1: This week, I have a super exciting guest that I

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Speaker 1: am so excited for you all to see, Sammy Sheen.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Ah, thank you so much for joining. Okay, so let's

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Speaker 1: kind of unpack. I feel like you and I have

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Speaker 1: both grown up in the public eye with very hectic families,

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Speaker 1: so I feel like this is something that we both

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Speaker 1: can relate to, and dealing with the public is definitely

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Speaker 1: not easy. So going back to your childhood, both of

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Speaker 1: your parents are insanely famous. How was that growing up?

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Speaker 2: It was, honestly all I knew, Like I was literally

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Speaker 2: born into I think I was on the cover of

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Speaker 2: people when I wasn't even like a year old. So

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Speaker 2: I was like, fully, it was like all I knew,

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Speaker 2: and I only knew it was weird when I would

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Speaker 2: have friends hang out with me and there would be

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Speaker 2: like paparazzi and stuff and they would be like, wait,

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Speaker 2: what you have cameras following you and I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess it is not normal. And then as I

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Speaker 2: got older, I was like, yeah, this isn't normal, but

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Speaker 2: it didn't really hit me until like end of middle

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Speaker 2: school and beginning of high school, when kids started finding

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Speaker 2: out who my parents were. And you know, you understand.

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Speaker 1: Now, of course for anyone who doesn't know your dad

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Speaker 1: is Charlie Sheen and your mom is Denise Richards. So

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Speaker 1: growing up in California and especially you know, your parents

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Speaker 1: having this big name, that's surprising to me that a

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Speaker 1: lot of kids didn't think that this was normal, especially

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Speaker 1: because there's famous people flooding California all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why, because even when I like

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Speaker 2: meet someone who's in the public eye or like I

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Speaker 2: find out how friend's parents are whoever, like, I don't

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Speaker 2: really bat a eye because it's so normal out here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So when your parents split, was that a difficult

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Speaker 1: time for you? Do you like even really right?

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Speaker 2: But I honestly don't even remember. My mom hid so

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Speaker 2: much stuff from me. Like there was one year I

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Speaker 2: was like asking where my dad was on Christmas and

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Speaker 2: my mom told us he was skiing, but he was

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Speaker 2: actually in jail. And yeah, I don't know if he

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Speaker 2: actually went to jail or if he was on his

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Speaker 2: way to jail something with him in jail, But I

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Speaker 2: thought he was skiing, and I was like, that's weird.

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Speaker 2: My dad doesn't even know how to ski. But I

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Speaker 2: was so young, so I really don't have that many

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Speaker 2: memories of stuff when I was younger, And I think

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Speaker 2: my mom did a really good job of kind of

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Speaker 1: So she was your main protector throughout this entire thing. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: so was my mom too. Okay, so your father went away,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know that. So were you mainly

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I my dad, like he was not. I don't.

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Speaker 2: He was not in jail for I don't even know

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Speaker 2: if I don't know the whole story, but he was

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Speaker 2: not there for long at all. Like yeah, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: like he had like a year sentence or anything. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: my whole childhood, I want to say, like the first

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Speaker 2: thirteen years, my dad was very like in and out

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Speaker 1: Okay, he would have been challenging.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. It was the worst if we had

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Speaker 2: he would show up like ten hours late. So we

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Speaker 2: kind of just stopped asking him to come to come

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Speaker 1: Was probably false, hope, and honestly at a young age

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Speaker 1: as well, it probably caused a lot of just trauma

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, especially because then if he did show up,

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Speaker 2: like if we got lucky enough to see him, he

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Speaker 2: was most likely under the influence of something. So that

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Speaker 2: was it's like, it's sad, but I make humor out

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Speaker 2: of it, Like I literally cannot tell you one memory

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Speaker 2: which is kind of sad, but yeah, whatever, it's his choice.

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Speaker 1: That must have been really challenging just watching him as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the hardest part was if I wanted, like friends

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Speaker 2: that was pretty hard. But it was honestly, like it

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, he's a crazy drug

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Speaker 2: kind of helps that it's all I know, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: it still sucks.

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Speaker 1: No, for sure, And I mean, you know, again, this

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Speaker 1: wasn't your fault. So even hearing that sometimes your friends

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Speaker 1: during your school years, ultimately like, no, of this was

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I had the hardest time getting into school.

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Speaker 2: Like when I was applying for different high schools, I

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Speaker 2: like beautiful private art to high school. And it was

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Speaker 2: schools that I wanted to go to, but that one specifically,

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Speaker 2: and like no high school would accept me because of

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Speaker 2: like stuff my dad has posted in the past about

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I feel like, I mean, everything happens

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Speaker 2: Was like how it affected even the schools I was

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Speaker 2: Like I have straight ags, I'm a grade student. I

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Speaker 2: later on. I'm like, so that's why I did not

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Speaker 2: that it wasn't my fault that I didn't get there.

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Speaker 1: Definitely reassuring. So your mom was actually on the Real

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Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills as well. She joined the show

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, and you were sixteen when she joined

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 2: I think so you honestly know more than I do.

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Speaker 1: I have a little cheat cheet.

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Speaker 2: No, I know you have your homework right there. I

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Speaker 2: literally have no idea, but yes, I guess I was sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And how was that? Did you want her to

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Speaker 1: when she joined the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I

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Speaker 1: know your mom has been in plenty of movies, and

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Speaker 1: she was in the whole James Bond James Bond movies,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty iconic, but was her career still as

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Speaker 1: busy leading up to her joining Beverly Hills. Were you

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Speaker 1: or did you kind of take or did you not really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she's always been busy. I cannot remember

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Speaker 2: so she definitely was still booking jobs and like crazy work.

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Speaker 2: She had a crazy work schedule before the Housewives. But

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Speaker 2: I was really supportive of her doing it. I was

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Speaker 2: really excited for her, and I'm like, Okay, like maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll make good friends through this, because it's obviously really

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Speaker 1: I never know who you can trust exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I was really happy for her. But I also

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Speaker 2: the show took on her health and everything.

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Speaker 1: And it's very toxic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I she was like debating going back and

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Speaker 2: I was telling her, like I've noticed a full one eighty,

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Speaker 2: like do not do this to yourself, Like it's not

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Speaker 2: you don't deserve this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I'm crazy.

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Speaker 2: And yeah I so after the first season and after

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean also, I feel so were you

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Speaker 1: very involved when your mom was filming, not necessarily with

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Speaker 2: Uh sometimes they filmed us here and there. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: I remember being so nervous to be on camera.

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Speaker 3: I was so shy when I was in high school,

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Speaker 3: so I hated it. I would if I came home

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Speaker 1: Was so funny. My sister Gabriella yea, yeah, so funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like super.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I did.

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Speaker 1: So then, knowing that you hated it, I know that

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Speaker 1: a super crazy scene happened with some of the housewives,

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Speaker 1: and I know your mom got really upset about it

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Speaker 1: when they were talking about a threesome in front of

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Speaker 1: you and you were with your friends, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were playing with Barbie's. There were barbies on

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Speaker 2: the table, like Eloise was playing with the barbies and

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Speaker 2: we literally, oh.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, so your little little sister was there.

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Speaker 2: Too, Yeah, Elouise was there. But it was just funny

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Speaker 2: because like there was Elouise was like playing with her barbies,

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Speaker 2: and we were obviously playing with barbies, but not in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, being funny.

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Speaker 2: And then we hear them talking about three, so it

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Speaker 2: was really like, that's really funny. We're both having like

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Speaker 2: the same conversations right now. But they didn't have mics

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Speaker 2: I think it was eric I who said something, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's so funny. I can't remember

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Speaker 2: exactly what was said, but like obviously, like we're in

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Speaker 2: high school, we know what a threesome was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My mom got so mad because she was so like

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Speaker 2: so classing, like you're not allot to talk about this

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Speaker 2: and you can't say this and like that around my kids,

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Speaker 2: and like, little did she know we were talking about

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Speaker 2: the same thing.

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Speaker 1: So it did it didn't even Oh, I.

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Speaker 2: Crossed your mind.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: It was so funny, and I feel.

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Speaker 1: Like, I mean, for your mom's perspective, she was probably

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Speaker 1: just so mad and didn't want that to even be

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Speaker 2: Kids, probably because we've never heard her talk about any

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Speaker 2: it was kind of like relieving to know that my

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Speaker 2: mom also like has these conversations.

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Speaker 2: what more can they possibly say? I did not know you.

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Speaker 2: I guess everyone in the public eye gets hated on

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I don't you need to do what makes

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Speaker 2: A couple of years now, Okay, Yeah, I got I

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Speaker 2: August and that's it. It's all. It's a lot. But

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Speaker 1: And your rhino plasti surgery it looks so natural.

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Speaker 1: No matter what you've gotten done, you've done it very naturally.

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Speaker 2: Sound like cool, Like I just want like little enhancements,

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Speaker 1: The difference and whatever makes you happy. As long as

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I agree. I was really confident before I

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Speaker 2: So at least I was like, I actually love that.

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Speaker 1: I love everything that you just said.

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Speaker 1: It's it's true. If you have deep rooted issues and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because everyone always comments like you need to respect

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Speaker 1: I feel like everyone needs to tell everyone's happy. Life

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Speaker 1: just don't comment it at all.

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00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: Or like write it like on a piece of paper

439
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: and burn it. Ors on me, Like, why do you

440
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 2: have to do in my comments?

441
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: Oh, it's come to the point where I literally filter

442
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: the words oh sameilters, Like it's so sad. But then

443
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: the haters also are the people who follow you, And

444
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: then I'm like, why if you hate me so much?

445
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: It's all jealousy like and you know that, but it's

446
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: hard to remember that when you read something you're like,

447
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: oh my.

448
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: God, Like it's just it gets you know, And I

449
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: have never been one to really dwell on the comment

450
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: section or make it affect me, but it after you're

451
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: reading it time after time again and you're really sitting there.

452
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: You want people to go to your content and enjoy it,

453
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: watch it, love it, comment on it, ask you questions,

454
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: but to go to your comment section and get that

455
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: feedback from your content, it's just it's honestly discouraging. It's

456
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: a little disappointing. Yes, exactly, it really does. It really does.

457
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: So Yeah, bravo fans love love you love hate relationship.

458
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I love the ones that are super supportive,

459
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: but I have only seen a few of those, the

460
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: main ones I get are like, you're so mean to

461
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: your sister. Treat your family better. I'm like, you guys

462
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: like this happens to just be on camera, like we're

463
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: a normal, like we fight.

464
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: I don't understand, but then they should also they want reality.

465
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: This is reality, this is life. If you're telling me

466
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: that you don't fight with your sister or brother, you're crazy.

467
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: Oh literally, And like there was a lot of fights

468
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 2: that me and Lola had that didn't make it on

469
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: the show, But what made it on the show was

470
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: us after a fight. So I was in a bad

471
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: mood and then I didn't want to talk to her.

472
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: And then that's when people are like, you're so mean

473
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: to your sister, Like if only you knew what was

474
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: said before the cameras were wrong.

475
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: I know, there's like eighty percent that's really shown you

476
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: don't know the other. Yeah, I mean there's twenty percent

477
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: that's really shown you don't know the other eighty literally

478
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. In twenty twenty one, when you were

479
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: only seventeen, you publicly said you were moving out of

480
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: your mom's house to move in with your dad, and

481
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: that your mom's house was a hell house, Why did

482
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: you want to move out? And what has changed since then?

483
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I've like had a really difficult relationship with

484
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: both my parents, but it was I was living at

485
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: my mom's obviously with Aaron and Lola, and like we

486
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 2: were all fighting constantly. I did not get along with anyone.

487
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like the odd one out, and

488
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: being the older sister, the blame was like always thrown

489
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: on me for everything. Yea, And yeah, it was just

490
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: I was really struggling mentally in that house. And there's

491
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: obviously a lot that I wish I could say, get

492
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: in trouble, but yeah, I just felt like at the time,

493
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: me and my dad were on good terms and it

494
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 2: was a more peaceful environment, so I wanted to try

495
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: out living there and like it was great till it

496
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: wasn't and then I figured it out And yeah.

497
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, do you regret making that so public?

498
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: Yes, but only because it reached the wrong side of TikTok.

499
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: Like there's the right side of TikTok and the wrong

500
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: side of TikTok. I feel like if you're like like

501
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: sometimes we'll post something, I'll literally say like I hope

502
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: this reaches the right audience. So I think the wrong

503
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: people saw that and like took it and ran with it.

504
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one like it's rough. No, no, but it's

505
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 1: rough if it does reach the wrong side, because then

506
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: you just get ripped to shreds.

507
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was expecting girls my age and be like,

508
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, like I'm in the same boat as you,

509
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: Like I also don't get along with my mom, like

510
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: this is this but no, people were like, how dare

511
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 2: you have? It's so nice. I'm like, you guys have

512
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: no idea, Like what goes on behind closed doors is crazy.

513
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: Of course, and everyone can judge, but especially being a child,

514
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: I feel like every child has gone through that period

515
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: where you want to move out. There has been multiple

516
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: times as a child, I've packed my bags and I've

517
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: been like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm never coming back,

518
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: and it's just frustration. It's when you're young. I think

519
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: it's a mix of wanting to leave, immaturity, trying to

520
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: escape the feelings. It's a bunch of things. And you

521
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: and your mom obviously made it back to have a

522
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: great relationship.

523
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: Now, yeah we didn't speak for almost a year, Oh wow,

524
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: and great.

525
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: We're just and how was that time when you were

526
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: with your dad. Was that okay?

527
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously he loved that I was like taking his

528
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: side now after all these years, and like he was

529
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: the favorite parent. But I think, I mean, I don't know.

530
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: I kind of was just able to like find not

531
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: obviously not fully I was so young, but like start

532
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: to find myself and like have my own space in

533
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: my own environment, and like he keeps to himself, I

534
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: kept myself Like it was like nice until I was

535
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: just like really lonely and like I was like, this

536
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: is not working. My mom's was not working. So I

537
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 2: lived with a friend for a little bit, and then

538
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: I went back to my mom's, okay, right after I

539
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: turned eighteen, and I just was like I cannot do this.

540
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: So that's when I started holding fans. And I got

541
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: an apartment a month later and been living in an

542
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: apartment ever since. Not the same one, but yeah, I

543
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: haven't gone back.

544
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Wow. So then that was Yeah, so you started only

545
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: fans when you were eighteen. That was in twenty twenty two.

546
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Is this kind of the main reason why you started?

547
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I fully started just because I didn't know

548
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: what to do, because I was just so unhappy and

549
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: like I didn't have like every living situation I was

550
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: in was very chaotic, and I didn't have like a home.

551
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't feel like a home. And I

552
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: was like, I just want my own space so bad,

553
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: like I'm tired of X, Y and Z. So I

554
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what job in this economy

555
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: will give me an apartment. So and I didn't get

556
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: any help from my parents, Like if I did, I

557
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: would have probably gotten a regular job. But I was

558
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: fully I've been fully on my own, like financially since

559
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: I was eighteen, So I kind of was like, I

560
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: need to be a smart business woman. Here take it

561
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: to my advantage. I have parents in the public eye,

562
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: like people already know my name, so might as well

563
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: do only fans because I know it's doing really well

564
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: right now for other people. And it did, and it

565
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: really got me on my feet, and like it's affected

566
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities because it's not the classiest look,

567
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 2: but I'm still really grateful for it, and it's like

568
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: such it's given me a lot of confidence for.

569
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: Sure when that all started, because like you said, each

570
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: living situation was kind of toxic and causing a lot

571
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: of turmoil to you, did you feel like that was

572
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: your only option because you're like, where your parent's not

573
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: going to give you the financial funds to move out?

574
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like it was. It really was my

575
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: only option if.

576
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: I like, it was like, if you don't want to

577
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: live with us, we're not going to give you the funds,

578
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: so figure it out or else you're like on your own. Basically, Yeah,

579
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was. Yeah.

580
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: People always comment like it's crazy you how to do this,

581
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: like you have daddy's money. I'm like, I really where

582
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: I wish? Yeah, it would be nice.

583
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, so then from there it kind of popped off.

584
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: But then at one point, I know, you referred to

585
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: yourself as a sex worker. Why why did you do that?

586
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well because like people always like view sex work

587
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: as like you're going like an escort or like an

588
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: actual like sex worker. But I made sure I like

589
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: did my research and like looked up every definitely everything

590
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: to make sure I wasn't saying anything wrong. But technically,

591
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: like selling explicit images of yourself online two men is

592
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: considered sex work, and that's why I was just saying that.

593
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: We were just trying to cover proper terminology. Yeah.

594
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: I literally was just like well when I was trying

595
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: to hook the audience to like be like.

596
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Oh that definitely oh yeah.

597
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: But just in the wrong way because I didn't realize,

598
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: like obviously, like this generation is more familiar with like

599
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: those terms with the older generation. Here's sex worker. They're like, what, like, yeah,

600
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: sex worker? Like no, I just do only fans like

601
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: I've been doing only fans, like I just this is

602
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: my first time saying it what it is. So yeah,

603
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: I got my mom flipped her with me when I

604
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: said that, and I like screenshot the definition on Google

605
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: and send it to her and I'm like, it's not

606
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: what I meant.

607
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: I prom And then I know one thing we say

608
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: it gets twisted and word doomed. Yeah, but what kind

609
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: of content do you post on OnlyFans? Do you have

610
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: a boundary to what you post? Is there anything that

611
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: you won't go past?

612
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll never do like I've never ever ever done

613
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: a sex tape. I've never done like, I don't know.

614
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: I just keep it very classy while still giving people

615
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: their their money's worth, if that makes sense. But nudity, yeah,

616
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: there is nudity, but not full full, full nudity, got it? Okay,

617
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. They're like I feel like

618
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: I give people their money's worth, and like I'll tell

619
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: them like these are my boundaries. Like people will request

620
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: the craziest things and I'm like, just.

621
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: Get requested feet picks.

622
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: Oh I sell my feet pigs.

623
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: That's like that's your easy money.

624
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: And people love my feet. I honestly do have really

625
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: cute feets. I don't blame them, but they request some

626
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: weird things like put in the toilet.

627
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, why does that all have the weirdest bet?

628
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: Why did that party on my foot going into a toilet?

629
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: Like that's weird, but okay, Like yeah, I know. But

630
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: the other stuff that they've requested where I'm like that

631
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: it's just really crossing the line. I'm like, there's other

632
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: girls who will give you that. No judge, it's just

633
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: not my thing.

634
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: And is there like something they sign where your stuff

635
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: cannot go public?

636
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: No, there's not. I have like a disclaimer on my

637
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: page and it has my like watermark on it, like

638
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: OnlyFans dot com sash sa machine is plastered on every

639
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: single piece of content that I sell on there. But

640
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: people will still screenshot it and my stuff, and like

641
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: I have a whole team that does take down leak stuff,

642
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: but there's so much where it's like and like a

643
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: lot of my lead stuff was when I was like

644
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: literally just eighteen. I'm like, oh my god, like I

645
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: look so weird and like, eugh, I was so young.

646
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: I wish I didn't have to start it when I

647
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: was that young. But yeah, it's it's hard, Like people

648
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: get their stuff league all the time, so it's kind

649
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: of just something you have to pretend you don't see.

650
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, I mean I know people

651
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: make crazy money. How much money have you made on OnlyFans?

652
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: This is one thing I literally like never talk about,

653
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: but I will say I'm doing pretty well, and like

654
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm really happy with the money that I'm making. Obviously,

655
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: like months fluctuate and like summertime or holidays or like

656
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 2: when you have like something to dress up where those

657
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: months do really well. But then the months where it's

658
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: just kind of boring and like there's nothing looking forward to,

659
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: those months aren't that good. But like I would say, overall,

660
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: I mean I've been doing it for a while, so

661
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: it's been my mainstream of income for eighteen nineteen twenty Wait,

662
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: how many three years?

663
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: For four years? Yeah?

664
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 2: Really wait almost four years? Is that really eighteen nineteen

665
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty three years?

666
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: Three years?

667
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

668
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: But still well yeah, But then, like you said from there,

669
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: because OnlyFans is your main source of income, and because

670
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: it is a you know, it is a very revealing

671
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: platform that you're on, you said that has affected you

672
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: with other job opportunities. Does that kind of affect you

673
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: with brand deals or like what, like what what does

674
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: it affect you with?

675
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? So I've never done a brand deal. I would

676
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: love to. I was actually supposed to go to Coachella

677
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: with a brand and then they decided not to. I

678
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: think it's because I do only fans. I wasn't really

679
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: given a reason. I cannot get signed to a modeling

680
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: agency for the life of me. And like, okay, I'm

681
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: not Like I hate saying that because I sound so cocky,

682
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: like why can't I model?

683
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: But like I really like no, But you're also trying

684
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: to bring in other opportunities of income for yourself and

685
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard.

686
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I don't even want a model for

687
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: the income. I just love the creative side of it.

688
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: In the fashion and like meeting cool people, and like

689
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 2: I I've met with a good amount of agencies and

690
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 2: they'll just say like, oh, it's not the right time,

691
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: or like we think you're beautiful, but not the right fit,

692
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: and like they say it without saying it where I

693
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: know it's because of OnlyFans, and like I've seen it

694
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: with like different people that I've like dated, and just

695
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: everyone kind.

696
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: Of has this like how is that. I really wanted

697
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: to ask you about that aspect of it too, but

698
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: we'll finish the job opportunity aspect of it first.

699
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't know, It's just I've.

700
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Kind of seen TikTok is like your other way of

701
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: making income.

702
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: To No, I don't make anything from TikTok. I don't

703
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: really have like I have. I don't even have like

704
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: a good following on TikTok. I just have like random

705
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: followers from like a video that'll do really well. But

706
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: I yeah, I only really make money off of OnlyFans.

707
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: It's definitely been hard. I've just kind of gotten used

708
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: to it and that people will just have this idea

709
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: of me that I'm this like OnlyFans girl, and like

710
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: whatever they think. But yeah, it's definitely like the annoying.

711
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Part of it for sure. And then yeah, with relationships,

712
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: how does that go? Do you feel like it's not

713
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: like do you feel like going into a relationship you

714
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: really have to have your guard up because you're nervous

715
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: if this person is really in this relationship for you.

716
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last guy I dated, I had my guard up,

717
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: but not enough. And I think we only dated for

718
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: six months, so clearly it didn't really go that well.

719
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: But I it became very very clear what his intentions

720
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: were and it was like a learning lesson for me

721
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: that I need to be more careful, like he put

722
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: on like a facade and whatever. We don't have to

723
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: get in the whole thing, because that's a whole other story.

724
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: But it became pretty clear what his intentions were and

725
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: I got out of that. And then obviously, like if

726
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: I'm just like meeting people, like I'll notice different guys.

727
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: They'll just like think I'm this crazy girl. I don't

728
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: even know because I don't want to disrespect people. They

729
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: literally will think I'm I will do whatever, and like

730
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: I'm so easy, and like.

731
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that almost like you're a sex magnet. You're very easy.

732
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: You'll screw them on the first night, all these all

733
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: these like a stereotype.

734
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like the complete opposite of that. And it's

735
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: really funny when guys find out that I'm not going

736
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: to sleep with them on the first date or the

737
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: second or third or fourth, Like I literally will not

738
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: sleep with someone unless I am labeled as their girlfriend.

739
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: And well, because you probably also think in your head,

740
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't want them to think that they're getting something

741
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: that they're not.

742
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: Also sure, yeah, like there has been times where like

743
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: I won't give them everything they want, but I'll like,

744
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: I don't know how to word this without being like.

745
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: Too, I get what you're saying.

746
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there are times they make it.

747
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: You'll maybe go to like base one or base two,

748
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna give them a home run.

749
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes exactly, But then it's clear that's only what

750
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: they want, and that's not really what I want.

751
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: So I said base one or base two, I meant

752
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: you'll go to first base or second base, but not

753
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: give them home Yeah.

754
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: Like it's just funny because people really don't expect that

755
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: of me, And like.

756
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: It's honestly, that's so good that you do that, because

757
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: that just shows your respect for yourself because at the

758
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're you also have to every well,

759
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: the guys that you're with, they're gonna love like love

760
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: you for you, love your personality, and love yourself for you.

761
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, this is an income

762
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: and you want that respect when you're going into a

763
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: relationship as well.

764
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really try and tell people like it sounds funny,

765
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: but this is literally my job and I've been doing

766
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: this for a while now. I have boundaries. I have

767
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: self respect, like get like if you think I'm about

768
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: to like do some crazy stuff or like you're talking

769
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: the wrong girl.

770
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: No, I totally get it. But then your mom joined OnlyFans,

771
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: so obviously your mom was supportive of it. I know

772
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: your dad wasn't. But when you're now, obviously it's been

773
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: three years, I'm sure they've you know, your dad's got

774
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: over it.

775
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: But my dad was not supportive until he saw I

776
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: actually started making income. And like I remember a phone

777
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: call I overheard. It was when I was living back

778
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: at my mom's right when I started only Fans and

779
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: he found out that I started when and he was

780
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: like on speaker saying, I can't wait to tell Sam

781
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: that I was right when she like she thinks she's

782
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: gonna make all this money and get a nice car

783
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: and apartment and move out, and this is in this

784
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: like I can't wait to tell her that she's wrong,

785
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, so yeah.

786
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: You're just waiting to prove them wrong.

787
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I grooped them wrong. And then all of

788
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: a sudden, he like turned new leaf and was like,

789
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm really happy for doing this, like it's good for you,

790
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like thanks.

791
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then when your mom joined only fans and

792
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: I know your stepdad, Aaron, was he okay with it?

793
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: How was this whole transition of that.

794
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: It's really funny. I never even talked to Erin about

795
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: my mom and fans, but he, I know, like helps

796
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: her with all her contents, so he's very sweet.

797
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: It's so funny.

798
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: I know.

799
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: You need to find a guy like Aaron. Do you

800
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: do you love your stepdad?

801
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: I mean we're not even that close, so it's hard

802
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: to like, like we don't ever hang out, we never talk,

803
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: so yeah, I feel like that's a stretch, Okay, but

804
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: if he makes her happy, then.

805
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

806
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom she when I started only fans, she

807
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: didn't really know what it was, and I was like

808
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: trying to explain to her, like I wouldn't be doing

809
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: anything crazy because I really just started off with doing

810
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: like lingerie photos. It was very very new to it.

811
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: I was also very young, and I knew I was young,

812
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: so I didn't want to do anything.

813
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: Comfortability level probably was like not nowhere near.

814
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I had very very very strict boundaries. And

815
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: she was like, I don't agree with it, but I'll

816
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: still support you. And we've never gotten an argument about it.

817
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: And then she saw that I was doing really well

818
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: and she was like, I want to start only fans,

819
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: so she did, and I was so mad at her

820
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: at first.

821
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: Fore you did you feel like this was like this

822
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: is my thing?

823
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Was like I also have been only known as

824
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: like Denise Richards or Charlie Sheen's daughter, so I was

825
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: so excited. I remember I had my first article come

826
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: out where it was just Sammy Sheen and it wasn't

827
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: like Charlie Sheen's daughter.

828
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wait, that's so funny. I feel like I deal

829
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: with that so much too. Yeah. Teresa Judice's daughter Gea

830
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: said this, and you know that's why even with this podcast,

831
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: and I have you know, things in the works right

832
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: now for twenty twenty five that I'm super excited about.

833
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: But even me, I'm you know, trying to get into

834
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: my own path. As much as I love my family

835
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: and I will always back them up, support them, have

836
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: them right behind me, x y Z, I'm also trying

837
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: to step into my own as well. So I totally understand.

838
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really hard making a name for yourself

839
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: when you already have parents who are in the public eye.

840
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: So I was that's why I was like so excited

841
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: to also start this and like have people know me

842
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: for me. And then my mom started one and I

843
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: was like, thank you for taking my spotlight. I was

844
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: so upset and a lot of my subscribers because they

845
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: all subscribed me because they're like, oh, this is like

846
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: the next best thing of like Denise Richards, because like

847
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: they're all like obsessed with her, like wow things era

848
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: and like all that stuff. Yeah, so when she started it,

849
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, they flooded to her page from my

850
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: page and I lost so many subscribers at first.

851
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, so that probably was that probably pissed

852
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: you off even more.

853
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like mad that she couldn't really

854
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: let me have my moment at first, But now it's

855
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: kind of obviously we have our own fan bases now

856
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: and like we have different content, like so we have

857
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: different fan bases that prefer one or the other. But

858
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: at first it was like crazy, No.

859
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: For sure, I'm sure. So I'm happy that that all

860
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: died down. I'm happy you both now have your moment

861
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: and everyone knows Sammy She and as Sammy She, and

862
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: she has her own platform with also your mom going

863
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: back on Bravo, and now you guys having your own show.

864
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: I know that your relationship with your parents have been

865
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: mushy washy, but I know you said in recent episodes

866
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: you haven't talked to your dad in five months and

867
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't even want to get lunch with him.

868
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: I know you said you lived with him and all

869
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: of this. It has it turned since then, or do

870
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: you still not speak to him?

871
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: So we haven't we haven't spoken on the phone in

872
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: almost a year, and then we haven't texted in a

873
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: little over six months. I think it we were like fine,

874
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 2: he was working on his own stuff and like pretty busy,

875
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: so we weren't even that close anymore. But then I

876
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: really got frustrated because it was when I got my

877
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 2: nose surgery. I was really mad that he couldn't even

878
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: like call me or anything to see if I made

879
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: it out of surgery, which even though it's not like

880
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: a it is a big surgery, but it's not like

881
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: I was.

882
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Like life or death. Yeah yeah, but still it's still

883
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: the support of it. Yeah, you're still going under anesthesia.

884
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: The dog the anesthesiologist could give you a little too

885
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: much and something to talk to the worst, like one

886
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: hundred percent. You never know what's gonna happen when you

887
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: go under.

888
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: I was like pretty upset that he didn't call me

889
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: after surgery or he texted me twenty four hours later

890
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: being like, oh, did you make it out okay? And

891
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 2: I'm like I could have been dead by now, but yeah,

892
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm fine. Yeah. And then we kind of got into

893
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: it and he was like saying stuff, being like, oh,

894
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 2: it's not like you got a new kidney, You're fine,

895
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, thank you for making his words,

896
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: and it really just like tumbled into something really big

897
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 2: where I had to really distance myself and then yeah,

898
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: we he got I actually had to block him because

899
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: he was sending me some crazy stuff and then he.

900
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: Still deal with addiction problems.

901
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: He's been sober for the past like I want to say,

902
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: like five years now, but I obviously haven't spoken to

903
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: him in a while, so I can't speak. I have

904
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: no idea if he's still sober. I honestly hope the

905
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 2: stuff he was sending me was because he wasn't sober,

906
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: because I'm like that would at least make it a

907
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: little better. But yeah, so I've had him blocked for

908
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: a minute now. I had to block his email as well,

909
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: and then he actually got a new number on Christmas

910
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: to text me other other crazy stuff where I had

911
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: to block that number. So I'm like, fully, we're done.

912
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it hasn't. It kind of went into like

913
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: a full but it didn't stop.

914
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got pretty bad to where I had to

915
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: like put a stop to it and tell him, like,

916
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: do not contact me ever again because this is crazy.

917
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah it's And.

918
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: People are like that's crazy, like you'll take his money

919
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: but you won't speak to him. I'm like, you guys

920
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 2: make my blood boil. You have no idea? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

921
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: so we are not speaking, but him and Lola are

922
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: really close and like he always goes over to hers

923
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: and like we'll say hi to her.

924
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: Does that, ever, you know, make you feel a certain

925
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: type of way.

926
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a little frustrating that they have.

927
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: Is Lola ever try to help you out and defend

928
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: you in that aspect with your dad?

929
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: No, not really. I think she also just like hates

930
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: getting involved in like arguments and stuff, and she'll like

931
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: tell me, like, well, you only have one dad, like

932
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: you should text him, like of course, you have no

933
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: idea the stuff he was sending me. So it is

934
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: a little frustrating that he will like bring her gifts

935
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: and like go say hi to her, and it's just

936
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: like I don't know, but I think as Lola has

937
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: a harder time like putting her foot down, and like

938
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: she's more she's very like okay, like that's fine, like yeah,

939
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: it's okay, sorry, And I'm more like I absolutely not,

940
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 2: like I don't have any disrespect. So we're very different

941
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: and nonsense. But I don't blame her because sometimes it

942
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 2: is a little easier just kind of not dealing with it.

943
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I mean, I get it. I'm kind

944
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: of like you in a sense, but then I'm also like,

945
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: h do I want to deal with this right now?

946
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I fully understand when I when

947
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: I am pushed to my breaking point. I really I'm

948
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: just like you.

949
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it gets to a point where you're like,

950
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: if you have like respect for yourself and like you

951
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: kind of just need to know when it's time to

952
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 2: put it unto certain things.

953
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm really happy that everything in your life

954
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: has been on track for the most part. I'm sorry

955
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 1: that you have to deal with these issues with your dad,

956
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: but hopefully, you know, hopefully one day you guys can

957
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: make amends and move forward. But we'll see.

958
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry what you're going through too. I'm so proud

959
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: of you for your podcast. That's such a big deal

960
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: and like everything you've been like marketing it so it's

961
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: so cute and like I love it.

962
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so much of course, and you know, with

963
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: only fans, I hope you I wish you the most success,

964
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: and I hope that you do find somebody one day

965
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: who respects you for you, because you really are such

966
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: a beautiful person. And this has been such a fun interview.

967
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: You're so sweet. Thank you so much and this was

968
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: my first podcast by myself.

969
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: Is it? Did I make you feel comfortable?

970
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so sweet.

971
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: Listen, we've both been through a lot. I feel like

972
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: everybody has their story, everybody has their side, everyone has

973
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: their version. But no matter what, this is also what

974
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: has made us the women we are today. You could

975
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: tell that you are very mature for your age, and

976
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: I know, I like we've had to grow up super fast.

977
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: When you deal with a lot of things when you're young,

978
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: it forces you to grow up quickly and it's but

979
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: it makes you listen. It could affect you for the

980
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: worst and we could have both turned to probably pretty

981
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: ugly things from what we've been through. Or you make

982
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: the best out of it and you capitalize on our platforms.

983
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: You try to be your best self and put your

984
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: best foot forward and show the fans who you are.

985
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: So I think we've done a pretty good job.

986
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 2: I think so too.

987
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: But Sammy Sheen, thank you so much for being on

988
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: Casual Chaos. This was such a fun episode and we

989
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: are definitely going to hang out soon.

990
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't wait. And thanks for having me.

991
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: Oh, no problem.