WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Impact Players 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.400 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:06.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:14.120 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:15.720 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:16.280 Yes? 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.160 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:18.960 Absolutely? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.040 Ready for a break? 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.319 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.720 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:35.360 with mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.440 It is Tuesday, December seventeenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.640 episode number eighty seven. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.960 The Break. We are live from this WBC Mortgage Studios 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.159 at the Start, presented by lglg's the world's number one 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.080 O lead TV brand for eleven years accounting see why 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.120 at LG dot com Ford slash O lead EVO. Welcome 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.880 to a Tuesday, Today's Big Picture Day. Today we'll hit 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.520 different topics. In the opening segment, We're going to talk 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.800 a little bit about this defense, and I want to 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.440 talk about Mike Zimmer in particular, talk about what we 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.560 think of him and where we think he is relative 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.240 to what we thought of him coming into this year. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.440 Questions today, I mentioned it yesterday. We were going to 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:17.840 talk about that, sorry man. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:23.760 And then as Mike zimmern and then we will get 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.319 to that. And then in the second segment we will 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.440 go inside the brain and Brian brought us and he'll 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:29.160 have lots of questions. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:30.280 One then will. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.240 Not be about zimmer We'll talk about him in the 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.880 first segment, and then we'll try to take some questions. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.200 You guys can hit me up on Twitter or your 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.440 calls one eight eight eight five five two two nine seven, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:42.919 and we'll try to get some questions from you guys. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:44.960 Uh and if you have any comments you want to 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.760 just talk to the crew here. We always love to 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.560 hear from you guys, so hit us up and we'll 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.200 see what we can do to engage you in the show. 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.880 Let's start first with the Cowboys defense real quick, before 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.760 we get into the conversation of Mike Zimmer, I do 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.840 want to at least spend a little time talking about Trayvon. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:02.960 What is the I guess it all kind of came 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:03.440 to a. 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.760 Head over the weekend where oh my god, he's not traveling. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.280 Yeah, he's gonna probably be out for the rest of 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:09.639 the year. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.280 What do we know about that and how it developed 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.280 into to the point to where it is now and 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.040 when can we expect to see him back on the field. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:16.359 Yes. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.480 So it is the same knee that he dealt with 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.400 last year, but there was the issue that he had 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.160 been battling most of the year was fluid in his 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:28.000 knee and it it bothered him and it kept him 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.240 out a couple of games, and then he goes and 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.360 plays what was it seventy something snaps against the Bengals. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.160 They come in and he has a little bit of discomfort. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.560 Early in the week, they do some testing and some imaging. 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.760 He's still limited in practice early on, and then Friday 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.480 is when they kind of come to the determination that 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.200 he's dealing with that chondrial issue, which. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:47.200 Is the. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.160 It's like the cartilage at the end of your bone 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.560 and your knee. He's dealing with some issues there and 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:58.520 needs surgery to repair that injury. So I'm not a 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.760 doctor anything. I'm trying to communicate as best as I can. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.800 But the recovery is looking like about eight months and 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.880 that would put him Stephen Jones has Yeah, Stephen Jones. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.600 Says, I'm counting on my face, yeah, lsu. Yeah. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.320 Stephen Jones would have has some confidence that he'll be 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.040 back by week one, but definitely looked at training camp 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.920 and was like, yeah, we might not have him at 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.160 camp this year. So yeah, that's definitely gonna be one 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.120 that we will be tracking all off season and hopes 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.200 that he can make it for Week one. So we're 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.600 looking at him and Marven overshown already as potential missing 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.480 time in twenty twenty five and we haven't even ended 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:34.480 twenty twenty four yet. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:40.120 So yeah, how concerning is it that someone like Treyvon 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.240 is now going to miss the entire offseason because you 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:44.280 look at it, He's now. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.280 Had last year, that's two years in a row. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.200 Now he doesn't get the off season, won't have training 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:51.720 camp this year. And when you're trying to get to 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:53.800 a point where you kind of really the off season 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.000 is when you're preparing your body for the rigors of 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.440 NFL football, right, you're getting yourself ready. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.000 How much does that concern you? 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:00.840 It's huge. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:05.000 It's huge because you know, you went through this all 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.840 of last year and there's so much unknown now that 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.200 it's one thing to have one injury, but to have 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.000 too And this man makes his living with his feet, 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.360 his knees, his legs, I mean, that's what he makes 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.920 his living with and the fact that you've had now 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:28.440 two major surgeries on those legs. It doesn't doesn't bode well. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.159 And especially when you're talking about cartilage injuries and bone 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.640 on bone situations, and you know, what's the next step. 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.839 Is it always going to be completely Is it going 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:38.480 to be better? 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:39.400 Uh? 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.240 You know, you kind of feel like when you fix 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.480 the knee one time that things are going to be okay. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.640 But this is a this is a very significant injury. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.440 And you know, initially you thought, okay, scope, clean it out, 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:51.040 that kind of thing. 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.880 No, No, this is a very very serious injury. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:58.440 And you know then, I know, talking to trainers and 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.200 doctors around the league, they've microfracture. 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.080 You hear that. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.159 That's a scary thing when you start to talk about 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.000 what's the what's the next step or the potentially next step, 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.640 And you know, that's. 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.480 Very few, very few if. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.560 Have dealt with that and come back and played at 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.640 a very very high level. Not to say it hasn't happened, 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.640 it's just a it's a very very difficult thing to 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:22.120 deal with. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:27.200 I mean, one key injury is already bad enough, and 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.640 then you start adding everybody else that's on that list, 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:35.240 including your quarterback like when because they're recovering from surgery 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.480 and you still there's that unknown of how are they 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.279 gonna look when they do come back from injury, because 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.160 most often than not, it takes multiple weeks for them 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.400 to get back and sometimes they don't even go back 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.600 to what they used to be. So it's gonna be 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.920 a very very challenging off season for the Cowboys as 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:59.320 they try to manage this roster and also try to 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:03.520 figure out that'll known of these guys, key players, what's 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.480 gonna happen with them, and how are you going to 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.039 address all these issues? 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.360 But man, for this secondary just a terrible, terrible hit. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.320 Darn Bland. I think he's on track. He's been looking 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:19.320 good with his recovery, him coming back from injury, and 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.839 so far, so good. And we still don't know what's 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.080 gonna happen with Jordan. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.520 Lewis as far as his future here with. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:30.120 The Cowboys, and then now add this Trevon Digg's injury. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:31.800 It really sucks for this team. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.680 The positivity will be coming probably from the draft, but 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.640 I think they'll be going into training camp when we 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.560 all get back on that train in July will be 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.159 I think there'll be a lot like Ambar's talking about 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.280 a lot more questions instead of sure, there'll be some 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.720 positivity about some of the players they got, and if 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.239 they don't play in free agency, then it'll be like, well, okay, 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.719 where's this team at. You know, the Commanders look like 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.920 they're a better team. The Eagles clearly are the class 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.880 of the division. You know, right now it's you and 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.640 the Giants that are kind of But I think the positivity, 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.560 just like she's talking about with all the injuries, not 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.840 just the Digs, but the the Dak injury. Uh, look 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.480 at you know, uh, look at the the situation. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.600 With juan Ye, Thomas and Bell. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.440 I mean, all these guys that you kind of counted on, uh, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:22.880 and then what guys. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:23.360 You're gonna lose. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.400 I think that I think teams are a extually. I 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.040 think the media fan base is probably going to take 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.440 a big step back and say, maybe this team isn't 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.520 as good going into the season as it was coming 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.000 into twenty twenty four. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.080 Well, good thing is that there's still three games left 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.200 on the on the schedule, and with that you get 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.560 a chance to look at depth and the guys that you. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.720 Currently do have in seeing depth all year. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.320 We have, we have, but you get a different look 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.400 and more time to see real game situation. Again, it's 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:58.840 very hard to replicate real games. You know, you can't 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.760 do that at practice. It just does not look the 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.360 same and it doesn't give you the same results that 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.880 you're looking for. So it's just another opportunity to look 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.080 at what you have in younger guys and in depth 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.960 to maybe give you a better idea of what you 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.480 can do or who you can keep during this offseason. 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.360 All right, when you look at the Cowboys defense right now, 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.720 we're going to we're gonna move a little bit, but 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.080 continue to talk a little bit about injuries as well. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.240 When you look at the Cowboys defense, how well they've played. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.840 I saw this morning Joyce Joseph Hoyd put it on Twitter. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.280 I thought it was an interesting tweet. He said that 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.040 to this point, Cowboys for the season are the twenty 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.679 sixth ranked defense relative to EPA per play allowed. Right 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.199 over the last four games. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.480 They're fifth in the NFL. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.320 A big difference obviously in the first four games, I 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.040 mean in the last four games. Now, part of that 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.720 you have to consider is the competition that they were 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.280 up against. Now, I will also say they played an 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.720 equally poor team in Week two in the Saints, and 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.520 the Saints kicked their butt, right, So you can say that. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.920 But they've lost some bad teams this year too. They've 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:05.520 been equal opportunity providers there when it comes to giving losses. 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.800 But that all being said, they've played a lot of 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.520 this season without some of the key guys on defense Parsons, 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:16.319 d Law, Diggs, Bland, Overshown, Williams, Kneeland. All that being said, 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.120 how much do you how much difference do you give 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.360 Mike Zimmer and this defense when it comes to the 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:23.080 injuries and all the guys that they had to play 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.280 without and having to kind of get his defense going 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.400 when you try to evaluate him as a as a 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:29.920 play caller for the season. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.360 Yeah, if I look at everything after, I would say, 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.360 I don't know week seven, give or take, then yeah, 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.199 I think you can give some difference to that, and 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.439 you understand the challenges that he's been battling throughout the 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:45.239 year as a coordinator. Because man, it's defensive end, it's linebacker, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.560 it's corner. I feel like the safety position might be 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:50.520 the only one that hasn't really had a lot of 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:55.320 a turnover this season because of injury. So I have 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.360 to give credit to Mike Zimmer because he's been dealing 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.440 with a lot of guys. And you look at Josh Butler, 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.960 how he was a the step up, Amantio Ro Warriers, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.040 had a couple of strong outings. Carl Lawson was a 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.120 guy that we didn't even think might make the team 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.280 out of training camp, and he's become a legitimate pass 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.640 rusher for them. So with what the pieces he's dealing 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.160 with over the course of the last few weeks, you 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.880 got to give credit to how he's put it together. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.400 From a defensive coordinator and a play color standpoint, Yeah, I. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.960 Give him tons of credit and a lot of respect 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:27.000 because even though we talked about it yesterday, Brian mentioned 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.280 the whole you know, would have been good for him 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.360 to have everybody buy into his new system, a new 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.480 scheme earlier on to potentially win you some of this game. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.240 You got to look at it the other way too, 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.000 looking at all the injuries, all the things that he's 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.600 had to battle through, but also with the season, how 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.920 he was going and how it's been going. How do 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.280 you keep players motivated and wanting to go out there 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.480 and compete and not give up and not throw in 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.840 the towel and say hey whatever. And I think you've 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.720 seen that with this defense over the last few weeks, 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.320 that they are actually going out there putting in the 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:06.320 effort and playing at a high level or at least 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.560 the highest that you can possibly give in the situation. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.480 So to that, I think it can be very challenging 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:18.280 just keeping guys wanting to still put in the time 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.439 during the week in preparation and then go out there 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.439 on Sunday and fight and battle and do what they 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.280 need to do to take care of the game and 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:31.360 help their off. And so I think I've I mentioned 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.880 it yesterday. At first I was skeptical because of some 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.320 of the results, but as the week went on, I'm 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.480 very impressed and I would not mind him coming back 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.120 and being here again with the Cowboys. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.040 Jump ahead ran, Yeah, no, I it's it is one 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.600 of my favorite new things. And kind of falling in 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.000 love with these numbers and looking at numbers and stuff. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:55.040 Yeah it was. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.440 I never was, but I was looking at overthecap dot 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.840 com and they talk about contract and stuff, and you 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.960 mentioned about Carl Lawson. Carl Lawson's playing like a player 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.160 that's like over thirteen million dollars in value, fourteen million dollars. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.080 He's playing like a fourteen million dollar year position player 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.280 and he's making a million dollars, you know, And so 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.280 you know here he is, he's playing thirteen million dollars 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.640 over value of what the player of How you determine 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.959 his you know, how you determine what he's doing. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.480 And that's super impressive to me that. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.280 But you are getting guys that are playing now whatever 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.040 we were I'm used to seeing. And I've always talked 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.840 about the OSA falloff. 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:36.960 We haven't seen the OSA falloff. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.960 You know, you're getting some guys that are You're getting 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.680 to Carl Lawson, who man, we were sitting there at 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.960 training camp and they just kept throwing names that, it 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.240 names that, it names that, and they finally hit it right, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.200 and we're all worried about Carl Lawson. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:49.960 I know I was. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.880 You know, I'm like, well, Carl Lawson playing the run well, Well, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:54.880 he's playing the pass and the run well for you 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:55.360 right now. 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.840 So Zim deserves a lot of career. I tell you where. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:58.959 I really do. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.720 Like Zim and and I've been with him, known him 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.720 a long time. I think that he's done a better 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.079 job than And one of my questions was about him 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.760 and dan Quinn, So this is how I'll answer this question. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.679 Then. The thing that I like about Mike is I. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.600 Think he knows how to match his guys up against 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.760 their weakest opponents. I think he's kind of figured out 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.719 how to How many times have we seen and this 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.640 is really no disrespect to dan Quinn, but how many 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.440 times have we seen Micah Parsons taking rushes against Trent 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.680 Williams of the forty nine ers or Lane Johnson to 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.439 the Philadelphia Eagles And you're just like going, man, you're 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:39.080 beating your head. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.560 It's this is a wash, this is good verse good. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.199 You know, Zim has kind. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.280 Of figured out how to get his really good players 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.880 on their bad players. And I appreciate that, you know, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.199 because that's what to me when you go out and 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.280 you advance scout and you look at it and you're thinking, 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.200 what's this all about? Teams trying to hide their bad players. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.840 Mike finds your bad player and takes advantage of that. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.520 And that's what I appreciate about him the most, and 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:11.959 that he's he's taken guys like Parsons osa Lawson, Wilson, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:16.920 whatever he has to do, He's found ways to attack Lewis, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.960 attack these offenses by just some of the matchups. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:22.640 I think that's where I want to give him a 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:23.200 lot of credit. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.280 Yeah, I feel like dan Quinn at times last year 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.920 got better at that because we saw Michael Parsons lined 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.560 up over zero tech many times, lind up over center 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.600 at zero tech many times, we saw him moving around 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.720 quite a bit. I agree with you, but I think 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.280 dan Quinn did get a little bit better at that 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:38.360 last year specifically. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.640 Yeah, I just to me, it's I see it. 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.120 Maybe it's because of Parsons, but I see it with 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.640 all his players, you know, I see it. And maybe 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.160 some of the things that's helped Osa not be Week 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.800 fourteen go away Osa could be his contract that he's 0:14:55.840 --> 0:15:00.160 trying to get, maybe better conditioning, maybe the fact that like, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.040 oh wait a minute, he's he's going against their their 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.160 their fifth best offensive lineman. You know, I don't know 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.440 if we always saw that, but I respect what you're saying. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:11.080 I will tell you this. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.160 The one thing that I'm keeping an eye on that 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:18.480 I think I like more about Zimmer is it feels 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.200 like at this point he may have finally solved the 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.440 enigma that has been the running defense for the Dallas Cowboys. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.400 Now we're gonna find out these next three weeks, because 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:27.920 you got some teams coming in here who can run 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.040 the ball, particularly when you play Philly. We're gonna find 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.520 out how good this run defense is. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:31.840 Right. 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.080 But I will say this, I so far, I look 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.560 at what they did, and I know these were bad teams, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.800 not the Giants so much from the standpoint of what 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:40.960 I'm talking about with rushing. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.960 But Carolina has a really good rushing attack. That runner 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:44.960 really good. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:46.680 That's how they been competitive year. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.600 He is a really good runner, and he's run against 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.560 some good defense in this league and run well. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.240 Cowboys held in the thirty something yards. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.680 Yeah, I think right now that's the part where if 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.680 I'm trying to compare the two I look at the 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.000 run defense and I say, man, finally, maybe somebody has 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.880 solved this run defense problem that has been kind of 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.640 popping its head up really for the last several years. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.320 It's been this ongoing thing of you get to this 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.240 week and just you cannot figure out how to stop 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.760 the run. And I think that might actually Zimmer might 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:14.320 be onto. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.080 Something Dallas is fifth in the NFL over the last 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.520 three weeks and rushing yards allowed per game eighty three 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:19.280 point three, So. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:20.640 Yeah, they're doing quite well. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.280 You've started to see a little bit more discipline just 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.000 from the defense as opposed to last year. I feel 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.360 like that kind of started taking a drop off with 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.840 discipline overall and penalties. Not to say that they've played 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.880 a completely clean game at all, but you see guys 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:42.960 just tackling better, running better, being more on their assignment 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.280 and do what they need to do. And again, I 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.920 love Dan Quinn and I think he was very very 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:52.000 well respected by everyone here and the players in the organization, 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.240 but there's something different about what Zimmer has been able 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.160 to implement in the whole defense. 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:58.640 And also not. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:04.000 To make Mica Parsons like he's the I mean, I 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.680 know there's a lot of debate there, but I guess 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.160 what I'm trying to say, when you get a guy 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:13.280 like him to respect you and buy in. And again, 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.080 I'm not trying to make Micah like the biggest diva 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.480 in the world or anything like that, but it helps. 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.400 It helps when you have a guy like him buy 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.520 into what you're selling and everyone kind of follows, and 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.399 it's just he just made it better than what it 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.000 was last year. And there were things that dan Quinn 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.119 was able to do also, and again he didn't have 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.439 to deal with as many injuries. And I think with 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.560 the turnovers, that's something that you're starting to see in 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.200 these last few weeks where it was lacking this year, 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.359 but now it's starting to pick over and you see 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.439 the kind of things that they're practicing out there and 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.440 just reflecting back to the field in the game. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:52.240 Yeah, we will. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.080 Now we have to move on to a much more 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.879 complex question, which we'll have to say for another time 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.119 about Mike McCarthy whether he gets that same difference with 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.040 regardless of the injuries. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:01.560 We'll have that. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.600 Conversation at some point. We're gonna take our first pick 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.240 when we come back. 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I think he's been more of a benefit 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.520 to Cooper Rush than Ceedee Lamb has been. And that's 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.639 no discredit to Ceede Lamb. It's more of a credit 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.760 to Rico Dowdell winning the time and possesion battle against 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.720 teams that run the ball really well in Carolina, you know, 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.359 keeping that offense off the field from Cincinnati. You know, 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.000 you're one, you know, executed block pun away from winning 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.280 that game because of being able to win the time 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:45.639 position battle and stand front. 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:47.800 So I'd have to give Zrego Dawdell. 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.280 He's he's been great over these last few weeks and 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:51.359 it's helping us overall off. 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:56.480 And Bergarcia currently the most important offensive player CD Lamb 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:57.240 or Rico. 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:05.439 Daddle currently us like this weekend currently defined currently. I 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:09.679 don't like this question because well that's the that's the 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:14.679 point of it, right, Okay, hold on, let me process this. 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.679 I currently process this. Please. 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:24.520 I would like to say, uh, fine, I'll go with 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.560 the running game. I'll go with Rico because, and this 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:32.160 is taken into account that Cooper Rush through three touchdown 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.680 passes to three different targets. So because initially my thought 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:39.359 is like, okay, what do you have at receiver. Really, 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.520 what have you been producing there? Not a whole lot. 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.600 But then also now that. 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.959 It's kind of opening things up, is due to reco 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.240 down and moving the chains through the running game. So 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.240 as of right now, in this moment, in this second, 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:57.960 I'll go with Rico, what. 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:03.160 Are you looking at me like that for? Is it CD? CD? 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:04.920 Like it's CD. 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.720 I'll I'll take you back to this game, right, Cowboys 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:09.879 offense kind of been floundering a. 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:11.399 Little bit after and then what happened? 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.880 What happened there was there was a there was one drive, 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:15.200 the first scoring drive. 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:15.840 What happened? 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.280 Third down? Three times on that drive? Three times CD 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.879 CD CD. That's the difference. 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.720 Saying this whole season yes, yes, no no no no 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.280 no no no no no no. 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.640 What you have to realize, what you have to realize, 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.040 what you have to realize is on this team. Okay, 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.480 to put it to you like this take away CD, 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:38.800 you think Rico's getting much on the ground? 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.680 Yes, How if. 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.240 Defenses say we don't have to worry about CD, lamb, 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.360 how are they going to run the ball. I don't 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.720 think this is not a dominant offensive line. This is 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.119 a good offensive line. When they play at their best, 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:57.080 They're not dominant. So if defenses say we're gonna put 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.040 eight guys in the box, we're not worried about any 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.240 anybody on the back, and we're gonna man up across 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:01.639 the board. 0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:03.320 How do you think they're gonna run the ball? 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.520 There have been some first down opportunities where CD has 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.600 been off the field in recent weeks, Bear and Rico 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:09.320 has been able to produce. That's that's what comes to 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.600 mind when I think about that and talking about Okay, 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:14.840 Rico wouldn't have any opportunities off CD is on the field. 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:16.560 I do see where you're coming from in that sense, 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:20.520 but I disagree. I'm not saying I'm not saying more 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.880 of an upfront situation with this offensive line. Truthfully, it's 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:27.000 because of the offensive line. I'm saying Rico dwell in 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.199 this instance. I think they would still be able to 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:30.600 pay lanes with the way that they are. 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.800 Blocking against an eight man front regularly. Yeah, I don't 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:34.920 think I don't get yards. 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:35.480 I don't think that. 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.400 I don't think they would consistently do that over a game. 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:40.439 And I get what you're saying, A player or two whenever, 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.040 when when one may be on the field and. 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.280 The others off that's fine. 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:45.840 I think if a defense goes into a game knowing 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.520 we don't have to deal with ceedee lamb, it changes 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:50.280 how they look at the Dallas Cowboys offense. 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.280 At that point they're like, guess what, we're gonna man 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:54.400 up and Cooper rush. 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.680 If you're good enough with these receivers to be able 0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:00.080 to beat us in man coverage, great, go for it. 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:01.399 But at the end of the day, we're not going 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:02.000 to let you run. 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:03.600 And I think if they said we're not going to 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:05.119 let you run, they would stop that. 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:06.000 I think it's. 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:10.800 Okay looking at both you're taking CD all day like 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:15.520 if you gotta yes absolutely currently currently yes absolutely. 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:17.360 But the point is it just goes back to. 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:18.359 You being able to. 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:26.639 Okay, Brian, you know what you're doing, and you started, 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.960 but the point does know But the point goes back 0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.280 to right now, what's happening with the game. The the 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.600 reason why you've been able to start doing a few 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.800 little things offensively is because you started running the ball. 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.679 And it doesn't go back to rica I'm saying, just 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:45.200 the ability to run the ball. 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:48.960 Obviously see commitment to comment, commitment to it right, and 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.119 I agree with that, but my point still remains. In 0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.560 the NFL, as is the case in the NBA, as 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.840 is the case in Major League Baseball. 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.080 Players matter. When you have great. 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:02.680 Players, it affects how the other team has to deal 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.080 with you. And and right now, you look at this 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.320 offense right now, just currently constituted, how many great players 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:09.080 are on this offense? 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.159 Not good players, great players are on this offense. What 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:12.760 who is he? 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:13.360 CD Lamb? 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.840 You're right, I'll take the left guard. 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:18.920 Yeah, I'll take the left I'm not to discredit cd 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:26.800 Lamb because he he would easily be number two and. 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:29.240 A second thinking how can I then you get my 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:29.879 guy touches. 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.600 But he is a great player, absolutely, And we're looking 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:35.359 at the totality of it, like you said, we're taking 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.840 cdee Lamb. But if we're talking about right now, specifically 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.200 looking at these last three weeks, looking at the impact 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.959 that Rico Dawdell has made for this offense as compared 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.000 to the impact that Cede Lamb has made to this 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.680 offense throughout the year. Even what we can even look 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.040 at these last three weeks too, I would take doubtell. 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.480 I mean it's it's like Dowdell Lamb everyone else. 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.080 I mean fair, but I would flip those two and 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:57.280 I think Dawdle's up there. 0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.119 And don't get me wrong, I think Dabdall has played 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.400 a role really well this year, or at least when 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.280 they wanted to use him like that. And I'm as 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.640 big of me and Brian said back during training camp, 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.520 we both were agreed, if they give him the ball, 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.239 if they're willing to commit to him, he's more than 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:10.840 enough at the. 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:15.639 Running back twelve hundred yards, yeah right now. And you 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.679 kind of gave us sat where he right now? 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.520 Like where's he's eight eighty? 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:26.880 Well yeah, but yeah, twenty yards. 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.520 He's had couple of weeks ago when they were not 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.120 running the ball doing nothing, you say CD. 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.679 Look, CD is still the centerpiece of this offense. 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.520 They needed to commit to running the ball because when 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.480 they run the ball, when they're committed to running the ball, 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.760 it creates opportunities for CD to do what he does 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:47.040 because now defenses have to at least be respectful of 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.520 the fact that Dallas will run the ball. When they 0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:51.399 weren't running the ball then there was it was just 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.119 basically like we can take CD away and they're not 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:53.960 going to do anything. 0:27:53.760 --> 0:28:00.320 Else, You're not wrong, and I agree, but currently out 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.200 one answer is slightly better than the other, and that's 0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:04.760 mine and Nick's answer. 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:05.960 I'll tell you what. 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.320 We're gonna find out a lot about what the respect 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.320 that Rico Dawdle's starting to gain around the league going 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.560 into this week. I don't want to get ahead of 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:18.160 Wednesday and Thursday. But this this Tampa Bay defense. They 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:19.120 stop the run. 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.000 Really well, but they can't stop bringing. 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:23.240 But they cannot stop the pass. So where do they 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.600 dedicate their time to Do they load the box and say, hey, 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.800 you have to make CD Lamb beat us. Or do 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.320 they put a couple of guys on CD and say, 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.040 hey you have to make Rego Dawdle beat us. And 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.040 I'd be curious to know what that looks like in 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:33.600 the first quarter. 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.280 On the point is you keep them off balanced by 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.080 doing different things. You move CD around, you see if 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.360 maybe you can get down out of space, like there 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.800 are things you can do to No matter which is 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.840 that decision they go with, you make it hard on 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.840 them to make that decision because you're still moving guys 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:47.880 around doing different things. 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.080 So there's a way to defeat it. You know, if 0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:50.840 Dallas can do it. 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.280 Yeah, that's true. If Dallas can do it's question. Boy, 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:55.800 that was a good than. 0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.680 That brain and Brian Brock got. 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:00.920 That one over. I got that one. 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:03.960 Give me another one, all right. 0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:04.520 Derek. 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.240 Bigger impact on the future of this defense, Marshawn Kneeling 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:11.840 or Mars Leafoul. 0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.080 Mars that's pretty easy for me. 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.760 I think what we saw this last week was my 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.160 best hope for him. What I saw of him in 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.800 college from the things I saw, was that he was 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.000 a playmaker. He was a guy who's always around the ball, 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.760 and this defense, in my opinion, that's one of the 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.000 things I think this defense has really lacked for even 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.800 when they were pretty good under Quinn, they didn't really 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.040 have those playmaking linebackers. And you look across the NFL, 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:38.719 and when you get great defenses, they don't just have 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.160 great pass rushers. They don't just have a great corner 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.520 or two. They also have somebody in the middle of 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.720 the defense that can make a difference, that can get 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:47.959 to the ball and knock the ball out, that can 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.040 create turnovers. And so what I'm most excited about right 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.040 now on this defense is the linebacker position. If overshown 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.760 comes back, and I think he will be and just 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.080 be just as good as he was before. And Maryus 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.800 leafile there with him. I think Dallas is onto something 0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.120 with those two linebackers. And we've seen when you've got 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.560 two of those guys, how great your defense. San Francisco. 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.640 I was thinking that Carolina here back when they had 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.200 keik Ley and and what was the other guy's name? 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:19.560 The short uh, I'm gosh, Keiley. 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:21.720 He one Man of the Year, he won Man of 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:22.960 the Year, NFL Man of the Year. 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.640 I know, Greg really small guy, the small line short linebacker. 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.719 I have to look at it, but pay for them. 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.560 No, I'm like, I'm going way too far because I 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.040 I was going back to Sam Mills and guys like no, No, 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:38.960 it was it's like way too far back for there. 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:42.160 I see his face, Thomas Davis. That's what it was, 0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.440 Thomas Davis. Thomas Davis. But I thought that was a 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.320 good linebacker with Keiley and him. I thought they had 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.520 a really good tandem there. I think if you get 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.480 two really good linebackers, and if one of them is 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.240 special and one's really good, you can do some damage 0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.320 in this league. And I think right now, I look 0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.560 at those two and over showing and I think you 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.520 can get too maybe two great ones. 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:07.560 And bar how about that Marshawn Kneelan or Marshleafel. 0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:08.080 This one's easy. 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.600 I'm disappointed in you, Brian great first question that you 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.600 made it easy and I'm just kidding. 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.440 Uh, well not, I'm not. 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:22.840 I love Maris like I absolutely love the guy. He 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.800 has been so great and it quickly took a shift 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.920 because going into training camp after the draft, Nielan was 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.000 the one that you're excited. 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:33.920 For looking for. 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.600 Then he gets the injury and that kind of I mean, 0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:42.440 it's sucked. But the moment that Marius got the opportunity, 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.400 especially with overshown coming out, he did not miss a beat. 0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.520 And that's why you love. You love to have a 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.320 guy ready for the moment. And he was ready for 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.080 the moment, took advantage of it. And you see the 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.840 in the way that he plays. You see the amount 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.600 of preparation that he he has done. You see him 0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.960 that he puts the work in his studies and he's 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.960 fast and not afraid to tackle. And like Derek said, 0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:11.720 and going back to what happened this weekend, him punching 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.320 that ball out, those are the kind of players that 0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:16.720 you want, that you that don't only go and tackling 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.920 out the plays over like you go for the ball, 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.880 be a what is it called ballhowker ballhawk? 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:22.160 Ball? 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.640 Yeah, an eagle ball hawk that ball just. 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:27.000 Like that. 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.520 One time specially, you gotta be ready for it. 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:34.560 What do you got there? 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.000 Is this more so talking about the future or is 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.160 it talking about what we see impact. 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:40.120 In the future of this defense? 0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:41.240 Is there a difference? 0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.719 Yeah? I was if we're talking about the season the future, 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:50.320 future of the future. Yeah, I'm thinking back and forth 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:55.280 here because we haven't seen what Marshawn Niland has can 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.920 do completely because he's he's been he hasn't been healthy 0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:58.360 all year. 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:00.880 And I know what marsh sh Nieland. 0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.080 Didn't as as a college player and what he can 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.160 bring to the NFL. I feel like he hasn't gotten 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.640 a fair shot at seeing that yet, whereas Mary's Leafel 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.280 is now starting to get that complete opportunity. 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.840 Okay, so so real quick, not to interrupt, but I 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:13.440 want you to answer this. 0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.360 Are you interrupted part of it? 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.000 You said you saw what he did in college. 0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:20.960 Explain for the folks out there what you mean by that, 0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.520 because that that's what you could expect as very best 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:24.360 of him in the NFL. 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.800 Yeah, whenever we were going talking on the Draft show 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.960 about Marshaw Neeland compared him to a poor man so 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:30.920 Marcus Lawrence, in the sense that he can seal the 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.320 edge really well. He plays the run really well. He's big, 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.800 he's physical, he can overpower undersized offensive tackles or even 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.520 average sized offensive tackles and get to the quarterback. The 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.720 sack numbers haven't really been there for him throughout his 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.840 entire career, but he does have ability at just making 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.080 life difficult for opposing quarterbacks. And but it's it's his 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.040 strength in the run game that I think is really, 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.440 uh really fun and and if you're looking at Mary's leafel, 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.320 you also kind of see a well rounded player, but 0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.600 maybe with more so an emphasis on on the run 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.320 game that we've seen in the NFL so far, him 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.680 being able to fill running lanes and be a very 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.320 decisive of doing that. I'm gonna I'm gonna say, Leo foul, 0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:10.080 but I am not discounting the fact that Neiland has health. 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.520 Bro I'm not riding the fences. 0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.279 Such a good argument, and I wanted to go he 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:15.799 wanted you to go. 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.360 I am saying Leo fl but it made such a 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.080 good argument for that is I'm giving neland a little 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:22.960 bit more credit here. 0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.000 Okay, So Brian, let me ask you this question. Both 0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:29.040 of you, guys, Amber jump into here. Here's the question ceiling. 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.880 Let's but let's see. Let's see you just said you 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.200 compared him to a poor man's Tank Lawrence. Yeah, let's 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.840 assume he becomes Tank Lawrence. Give me a comp for 0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:39.839 what you think based on what you've seen, on what 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.480 you think marys Leaphile. 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:45.280 Can become mmmm man because. 0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.400 You're giving him best case scenario. What's best case scenario 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:48.240 for Marris Leophile? 0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:48.879 What did I come? 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.359 I gotta look at what my convoys for him last 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:52.080 year coming out? 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.560 Can he be like if you're doing Cowboys? 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:55.560 Anybody you give me? 0:34:56.400 --> 0:35:01.280 Could he be like Brady James? Maybe a or maybe more. 0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:07.479 Notice a little bit higher than Brads. Let me cook 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:08.640 on this all right. 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:11.319 Reason. The reason why is because I hear what you're 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.160 saying about Tank, and I have a feeling if it's 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:20.600 James comparison, if his career plays out exactly like like Tanks, 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.080 I think Tank is very underrated because he doesn't have 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.920 the sacks, and at defensive end you don't have the 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.560 huge number of sacks, then you don't get the same 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.200 level of respect. But if you're a linebacker that's a 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.600 playmaking linebacker, you're going to have those splash plays. 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:37.960 You're going to have those plays everybody. 0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.600 So in a lot of people's minds, if that's the case, 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:44.000 Marris would be a higher ranked player than Eland would be. 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:44.799 Yeah. 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.360 See to me, I don't know, are we kind of 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.720 is this the ceiling for Merris the way he's playing. 0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:52.880 I don't think this is a ceiling for him. What 0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.520 the heck the first year? Come on, what do you 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:56.280 mean the ceiling? 0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.440 No? I mean sometimes players are they play at their 0:35:59.440 --> 0:35:59.960 best level. 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:01.440 That's who they are when they come in, that's who 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:01.719 they are. 0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:03.880 Na, I see a brighter future. 0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:14.240 Okay, the schemes, right, No, I think also it helps 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:17.360 the scheme and like when you talk about having a guy. 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:18.560 Like I think this guy is going to become a 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:19.360 good pass rusher. 0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.880 But I don't anything. Oh yeah, I just wonder. I 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:24.840 just wonder if Maris. 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.200 If we're looking at Maris and we're gonna look up 0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.959 three years from now and you're looking at Merris and 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:33.399 and and and uh demo and saying that is the 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:37.080 best linebacker tandem in the NFL. And if you're doing that, 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.720 I don't know if Neland's gonna be on that level. Gotcha, 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:41.479 now here's gonna do. We're gonna take our final break. 0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.319 I love these questions so much. We're gonna do a 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:44.600 double dose. We're gonna come back and I. 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.120 Got I got one other question. 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:47.799 We're gonna do that when we when we come back, 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.320 it's Dallas Cowboys dot com Radio. 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:53.759 If you can't be at the stadium, there's no better 0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.160 way to watch your Cowboys than on an LG O 0:36:56.360 --> 0:36:59.800 led Evil TV. That's because everything you see is more lifelike, 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.440 every play, every hit. 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That 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:56.320 was put. 0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:04.359 Hoffman and Steel, Guidon Smith, bbe, hoff and Steel them 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.520 ranked them as a level of play. 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:08.800 Okay, I'm talking about this season. 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.919 Yeah, last year, I didn't know if we're talking about 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:14.960 like career wise, the last. 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:23.080 Couple of weeks almost said a bad word on there. 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:27.839 All right, let me process this. 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:35.080 I would go with Smith first, and then what I'm 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:41.680 battling with is excitement versus looking at the whole year 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.399 like what it's been. With that being said, I'm talking 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:49.080 about Hoffmann specifically, just because he brings a different level 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.680 of excitement that you're like, Okay, you've seen this type 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.040 of aggressiveness that you kind of have lacked for a 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.319 little bit. It's just something different to have in there. 0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.480 But also sometimes I think about. 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:01.560 He's a little too aggressive. 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:05.800 It's like, Okay, calm down a little bit too But Smith, 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:18.640 I'm gonna go with potentially bbe next, and then Hoffman Steel. 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:23.880 How about you, Derek. 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.000 You know, ironically I did the exact same thing, and 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:28.799 I was the only part I was a little bit 0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.960 torn on is I was torn between Guiding and Steel 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.920 whether I thought Guiding was a bit better than Steel. 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.480 But I think will push me on exactly. And I 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:40.319 also think the last couple of weeks have kind of 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.120 shape given me a little more towards Steele, Like. 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:45.000 Yeah, he's been pretty good. 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.120 They made the change the right guard exactly, so it 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.000 makes me wonder how much that was affecting his place. 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.959 So I'm giving him a little bit more difference there. 0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:54.280 So that's kind of how it would go. Smith Bebe, 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.400 Hoffman Steele. 0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:57.600 I also want to give credit to Steel in the 0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.480 run game. I feel like he's been he's been really 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.880 strong in the You want to do that, yeah, I 0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:06.120 am sure this time I had the same order as well. 0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:13.479 I'd be going Smith, bb Hoffman Steel, Guiden is is guiding. 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.960 The issue, like I say, is the with goe if 0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:19.440 he has not had not had the penalties, the holdings, 0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.440 the lining ups, the things like that. 0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.799 Would you give it more? Are you agree? 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.480 He's also boom or bust at times though, where it's 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.600 it's like he's great against Cleveland and then he has 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.879 some severe breakdowns against uh trying to think of one 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:35.040 off the top of my head where it was just 0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.239 a bad game for him, Yes, Saints is Yeah, I mean, 0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:38.879 may as well just go to the next week where 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:40.799 it's just like, man, how did he allow that to happen? 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:41.080 Yeah? 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:42.719 Yeah, yeah. 0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:45.919 I thought Geydon was might sound weird, but I thought 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.400 he was actually better than I expected him to be 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.160 this year. I thought as bad as the penalties were, 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.200 I thought they were gonna be even worse because in camp, 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:54.880 literally it seemed like every rep. 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:55.520 His hands are outside. 0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.239 I was like, he's gonna get flagged every play, Like 0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.480 literally every play he's gonna have a holding call. 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.279 And it wasn't that bad. 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:03.520 Like he had some penalties, it wasn't as bad as 0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:04.480 I thought it was going to be. 0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.839 And so I still have. 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.760 Hope that he's going to be a really good NFL player. 0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.120 I wonder if it may be on the right side 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.480 versus the left, but I still have hope he's going 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.319 to be really good player. And then when you say 0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.080 talk about BB, I think BB, in my opinion, was 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:21.800 every bit what I thought he was going to be, 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.280 which is a really good player. So far as a rookie, 0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.400 the expectation for him is that now he's going to 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.840 be competing as one of the better centers in the NFL. 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:31.279 If they keep messing and they might move in the 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.480 guard my expectations. If he moved guard, he probably just 0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.640 as good there. So either way, I think he's gonna 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:36.759 be a really good player real quick. 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.759 Just maybe yes or no answer. Were they wrong not 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:41.480 starting Hoffman the whole. 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:44.360 Year at center and putting BB at guard. 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.600 Or BB being a swing guy or being the guard yeah, 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:47.439 the backup guy? 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:49.560 Mm hmm, you know, like he could have been. He 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.719 could have been now the role that Hoffman hads. 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:53.880 I don't know if I think that. I think BB's 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.560 been fine, like I don't think BB was. I think 0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.440 BB has played well, So I think getting him reps 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.439 as a rookie and he played well is a great thing. 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:03.080 That's better. 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.520 That's better for me than Hoffman being in there and 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.040 maybe not seeing an appreciable difference between the two. 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.560 It so, I wonder if hapman playing sixteen or seventeen 0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.080 weeks is a good thing? 0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:15.239 Yeah? Is hap been playing five weeks a good thing? 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:15.719 Yeah? 0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:16.359 You know what I'm saying. 0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:17.560 And wait, what are you getting? 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:17.920 Well? 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.840 He gets broken down? Got like he plays really really well. 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:25.120 He's fresh for five six weeks, and then week seven, 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.680 week eight he starts to get beat up and get war. 0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:29.080 Down and is not as effective. 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:29.560 Yeah. 0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:31.759 Well, I had to ask him last week. I was like, 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.319 this is the first time in your prayer you've been 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:34.160 able to stack. 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:37.319 Nick's doing his job and that's what he does. 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:44.960 I pushed my glasses. I asked him last week, you've 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:46.400 been able to stack games for the first time of 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:47.960 your career. Do you feel like you've gotten better over 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:49.320 the course of these games? And he does feel like 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.719 he's playing his best football right now and his body's good. No, No, 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:53.520 you're right, seventeen games. 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.400 I wonder if you wonder if what he would have 0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:58.000 been at center for seventeen games? Yeah, what do you have? 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.160 Been broken down? You know that kind of thing. 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.200 But I love what they got from BB. 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:04.200 I think he's been a really good for them, and 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:05.839 I think that that experience is in value. 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:06.359 Was a rookie. 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:07.200 All right, Thank you guys. 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:08.240 All right, that was good stuff. 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:09.560 Brian, I try, I try. 0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:12.359 It took me to week sixteen, but here we are. 0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:13.160 All right. 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.839 We appreciate you guys. Tomorrow, tomorrow we dive in. 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.000 This is gonna be the gauntless of these three games. 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.800 It starts with Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tomorrow we'll start breaking 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.800 down that team, that Tampa Bay offense versus the Cowboys defense. 0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:26.920 Until then, for Nick Harris, Brian brought us an Ambergarci. 0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:27.759 I'm Derek Eaglet, and. 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.839 This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:30.800 Com Radio. 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:35.080 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:38.160 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.