Speaker 1: Can you mention me in one of your Oh I
Speaker 1: always talk about you, Martha, don't That's how I opened
Speaker 1: and closed my shows. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Chelsea Handler
Speaker 1: is a stand up comedian, New York Times bestselling author,
Speaker 1: television and podcast host, and businesswoman. Many of you know
Speaker 1: her from her well known late night talk show, Chelsea Lately,
Speaker 1: which aired on the E Network for seven seasons. Her
Speaker 1: work has also been featured on Netflix and HBO Max.
Speaker 1: Some of you may remember Chelsea was on my h
Speaker 1: G t V show Martha Knows Best, where I showed
Speaker 1: her how to make a delicious apple cider cocktail, and
Speaker 1: of course everyone remembers how she tried to emulate my
Speaker 1: famous pool selfie that I choke back in at my
Speaker 1: former home in East Hampton. Welcome to my podcast, Chelsea.
Speaker 1: Oh hi, Martha's so good to see you. Well, we
Speaker 1: just finished your podcast, which was very enlightening. I know,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is Dr Chill. See yeah. People call
Speaker 1: in for real life, like life problems, interpersonal affairs. Some
Speaker 1: people are in bad relationships, bad working environments, and I
Speaker 1: have to kind of try and help and you can
Speaker 1: help them, that's right, which is amazing. Well, I've anointed
Speaker 1: myself as psychiatrist in very loose terms only because I
Speaker 1: got so much out of my own therapy experience. I
Speaker 1: absorbed so much information that I couldn't wait to spit
Speaker 1: it back out and kind of share it without yourself.
Speaker 1: I was. I think I was in bestudent, because you
Speaker 1: really are regurgitating advice from psychiatry that you know. I
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like you are psych Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, that's exactly the impression I'm trying to make. Huh, well,
Speaker 1: that's very interesting. Well, I yet also I wrote a
Speaker 1: book when I got when I went to therapy, I
Speaker 1: was so enthralled by all this information that I was
Speaker 1: learned and I had I was learning. I had all
Speaker 1: these light bulb moments where he would explain my behavior
Speaker 1: and why that was, you know, something that was represent
Speaker 1: ended up of something that happened in my childhood, which
Speaker 1: you know, earlier in my life. I thought all was
Speaker 1: just a bunch of horse I'm like, what does my
Speaker 1: childhood have to do with my adulthood? And I didn't
Speaker 1: want to spe one of those adults who spent their
Speaker 1: adulthood getting over your childhood, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think it's a I think that's the worst thing
Speaker 1: a person can do. Yeah, relive or imagine would affect
Speaker 1: you had as a child on your future life. I
Speaker 1: just can't. I never think about that. Yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 1: maybe I should. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, they
Speaker 1: say an unexamined life, you know, isn't a life not
Speaker 1: worth living. But some people don't need to examine their lives.
Speaker 1: Other people really need to get get it straight. So
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to share what I learned, and I
Speaker 1: wrote it in my last book, and then I'm turning
Speaker 1: that book into a TV show, so it just kind
Speaker 1: of keeps. It's well, we haven't titled it yet. It's
Speaker 1: at Peacock. We just turned our script in, so, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It probably won't be the same name
Speaker 1: as my book. We'll have to come up with a
Speaker 1: new structure series. Yeah, me starring in it one, you're
Speaker 1: gonna start. Great, that's something to look forward to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So how are yourselfies coming along? Well, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for you to inspire me because when I saw
Speaker 1: that pool selfie of you in I just that was
Speaker 1: during COVID in lockdown, and I thought, oh, I could
Speaker 1: do that pose, and I I got right into my
Speaker 1: bathing suit and went down to my pool, and I
Speaker 1: did my hair and makeup as close to yours as
Speaker 1: I could, and I put that right out there and
Speaker 1: it was such a big hit. And then you were
Speaker 1: your typical self by commenting on your pool being nicer
Speaker 1: than mine, which actually seth Meyers also confirmed he thought
Speaker 1: was nice. Yeah, I think most people are going to
Speaker 1: think that your pool is nicer than mine, and I'm
Speaker 1: fine with that. I'm just gonna might have to it
Speaker 1: might have to do another one because I have a
Speaker 1: new pool. Okay. Well I'm also building a new pool. Okay,
Speaker 1: well I'm going to do another pool selfie and see
Speaker 1: what we come up. Where are you based out of now?
Speaker 1: Because Bedford, New York. Okay, I have a beautiful pool
Speaker 1: in my fool and it's enclosing a red beach hige
Speaker 1: and it's very very pretty. Do you spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time in the pool? No? No, no one, No
Speaker 1: one who has a pool really goes into the No.
Speaker 1: I do go in, but but I don't have time
Speaker 1: so much. It's late at night that's when I usually
Speaker 1: go in. I don't have a really nice hot tub
Speaker 1: with lots of jets. I had to put extra jets in,
Speaker 1: So that's like, you know, it's like a jacuzzi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what That's what I really like, is the jacuzzi. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And swimming laps is fun but boring. Yeah, swimming is boring.
Speaker 1: Never Mark spits, remember Mark spits, the swimmer, the Olympic swimmer. Well,
Speaker 1: he remember him saying, you know, because he had to
Speaker 1: swim lap after lap after lap, thousands and thousands, he said,
Speaker 1: I just imagined some beautiful girl at the end of
Speaker 1: each lap. But you know, you sort of run out
Speaker 1: of beautiful men to think about at the end of lap.
Speaker 1: So the thing I like, Yeah, that's swimming. I do
Speaker 1: find boring. I mean, most exercise can be boring if
Speaker 1: you overdo it. But I remember reading Katherine Hepburn's biography.
Speaker 1: Kate remembered and she would get up in the morning,
Speaker 1: and she lived on the in Connecticut, right and she
Speaker 1: would jump into the freezing cold Pacific and swim and
Speaker 1: laps every single morning. And I she attributes her mental
Speaker 1: clarity and her strength to that. And I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot to be said about diving in the ocean
Speaker 1: and swimming like that. Well, good for her, It's good
Speaker 1: for her. It really is amazing to swim in the ocean.
Speaker 1: So aside from all these thirst traps, um, we have
Speaker 1: something else in common. You were also one of six
Speaker 1: children born in New Jersey, as I was, and what
Speaker 1: affections that had on you just being part of a
Speaker 1: big family. Are you a close knit family? Yes, we
Speaker 1: are pretty tight we have There are six of us
Speaker 1: minus one. My brother passed away when we were little.
Speaker 1: He had an accident, so there are five of us.
Speaker 1: I think that event probably brought us together even more. Um,
Speaker 1: but we're very tight knit. And you know, my brothers,
Speaker 1: some of them have been married to people and our
Speaker 1: our family that you know, don't fit in and as
Speaker 1: nicely with the core group as as we would like.
Speaker 1: But then you know that's part of people getting married,
Speaker 1: your brothers and stirs. So are you friendly to those
Speaker 1: people or do you do you turn your back on
Speaker 1: those people? Know where we do our Yeah, we make
Speaker 1: it work. We make it work, and we're all very
Speaker 1: kind of politically aligned, so we don't have any of
Speaker 1: that drama. I'm the youngest, I'm the most spoiled. I
Speaker 1: was always the most spoiled because my parents were a
Speaker 1: little bit um lame. They just kind of by the
Speaker 1: time they had me, they had the run out of
Speaker 1: parenting um at energy. So my brothers and sisters were
Speaker 1: kind of left to spearhead my childhood. So they all
Speaker 1: I'm very spoiled. I was very much the youngest, and
Speaker 1: now I'm in charge of all of them, Like I
Speaker 1: make the decisions about where we're going, what vacations were taking.
Speaker 1: We go every way Christmas, we go to the Marthe's
Speaker 1: vineyard every summer, and I basically am in control of
Speaker 1: the family. So being the youngest and the oldest, I
Speaker 1: think simultaneously, are there any other actors or comedians in
Speaker 1: your family? No? No, just me? And did you know
Speaker 1: at what age did you know you were going to
Speaker 1: be a comic? I never knew I was going to
Speaker 1: be a comedian until I moved to Los Angeles, and
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be like I wanted people to
Speaker 1: know me and know who I was, Like I'm more
Speaker 1: had a desire to be well known, to be honest.
Speaker 1: And then when I came to California and uh, somebody
Speaker 1: introduced the idea of stand up comedy, which was so scary,
Speaker 1: you know, getting on stage alone and with what and
Speaker 1: saying what. And I remember going to a comedy club
Speaker 1: and I just thought, oh my god, you know, this
Speaker 1: is gonna give me diarrhea. I can't ever do this.
Speaker 1: It's too scary, it's too intimidating. And then I just thought, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're on stage with a microphone and you're the only
Speaker 1: one allowed to talk and no one can interrupt you. Like,
Speaker 1: that's a great idea for me. And then I just
Speaker 1: mustered up the courage and I started doing a big talk,
Speaker 1: like the way you are very good talk and talk
Speaker 1: and talk and talk very um you know, like I can.
Speaker 1: I can engage with almost anybody. And I like that.
Speaker 1: I like learning about people, and I like expressing myself
Speaker 1: and I love the art of language. You know. That's
Speaker 1: why I like writing books as well. And that's why
Speaker 1: I love stand up is because you're articulating something and
Speaker 1: you're expressing yourself. And I love words and putting them
Speaker 1: together in a way that makes somebody think. And you
Speaker 1: don't get tongue tied, Uh No, not not really. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, sure I have been tongue tied or
Speaker 1: I've said the wrong thing. Or you know, spoken too fast.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely done. When you're doing your stand up Do
Speaker 1: you have a do you have an earpiece in anybody?
Speaker 1: Remind you of something? No, that I just have memorized.
Speaker 1: You do, like, you know, on a tour, I'm probably
Speaker 1: on my I'm still on my tour. I just announced
Speaker 1: another twenty two dates, so I will have done at
Speaker 1: the end of this tour, probably a hundred and twenty dates.
Speaker 1: So after you you know, I start out with like
Speaker 1: nine pages of notes of what I'm going to say,
Speaker 1: and then, as you know, the shows go on, you
Speaker 1: condense it, you edit. It's kind of like writing a book,
Speaker 1: and then you get off script and you memorize it.
Speaker 1: At what point in your career did you realize that
Speaker 1: this was what you were meant to do? Um, I
Speaker 1: feel like I wouldn't be able to do much else,
Speaker 1: you know. I tried to be temp like a temp person.
Speaker 1: I tried to work in offices when I was in
Speaker 1: my twenties. I waited tables. I got fired from almost
Speaker 1: every job. I was terrible with people when they were
Speaker 1: telling me what to do. I remember being an intemp
Speaker 1: office trying to transfer a call like from the front
Speaker 1: desk into the partner's offices, and it was such a
Speaker 1: debacle that somebody one of the partners called and said,
Speaker 1: who is this bimbo that we hired at the front desk?
Speaker 1: You have to get rid of her. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's me. I said, I'm so sorry. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to transfer phone calls. He's like, that's all you
Speaker 1: have to do at this job is transferred phone calls.
Speaker 1: So I just my My sister always said it perfectly.
Speaker 1: She said, you know, you're not good at anything else,
Speaker 1: and you won't be not good at any of the
Speaker 1: things that you can do. I'm not domesticated in any way.
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, this is pretty much my purpose, I
Speaker 1: think is to share. So what what age were you
Speaker 1: when you became Chelsea Handlers? Um? Well, I had a
Speaker 1: pretty pretty big, you know, impression of myself. Early on,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of misplaced confidence. But when I
Speaker 1: became well known, I was probably thirty, So I'm not
Speaker 1: not old. You were young, yeah, thirty, But you know
Speaker 1: when I was waiting tables from like twenty eight, thinking well,
Speaker 1: it's eight years enough, it's a it's long enough to
Speaker 1: be scared that it might become permanent and that I
Speaker 1: might be waiting tables for the rest. What was what
Speaker 1: was the first thing that you knew that you were
Speaker 1: going to make it? Um? Well, yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: lot of development deals, like an NBC development deal, which
Speaker 1: is where they would see you do stand up and
Speaker 1: say we're gonna build a TV show around you and
Speaker 1: they'd pay you like a hundred thousand dollars. At the time,
Speaker 1: I was a waitress. The first time I got that deal,
Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA, I can this is it? Like
Speaker 1: I can retire? And then you realize, no, You're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to retire on a hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: because you have to get half of it a I
Speaker 1: to you know, taxes, commissions, etcetera. But when I really
Speaker 1: made it was probably I had a couple of big
Speaker 1: breaks before my show Chelsea Lately. But Chelsea Lately and
Speaker 1: my books kind of coalesced at the same time and
Speaker 1: it was kind of a um perfect storm. So I
Speaker 1: think that's when I really when I became kind of
Speaker 1: like a household name was during Chelsea Lately. It was
Speaker 1: such a great shows seven seasons and we had so
Speaker 1: much I mean, we laughed our asses off doing that show.
Speaker 1: It was just one big audience left. Yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really fun. And then you started your own production company. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're you're really incorporating good business with with your comedy.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask, what's the difference between a comic
Speaker 1: and a comedian? Is there any difference? No, not really,
Speaker 1: You're rather be known as a comedian comedian without being
Speaker 1: a without it being like female. You know, yeah, comedian
Speaker 1: seems a little bit passe. And do you have who
Speaker 1: who were your mentors in comedy? Um? Who who are
Speaker 1: your heroes? Well? I don't know about mentors. I don't
Speaker 1: really I didn't. You know, I was so arrogant when
Speaker 1: I was coming up, Like I really thought I could
Speaker 1: do it all by myself, and any of my success
Speaker 1: was was from me. You know. I recently inducted Joan
Speaker 1: Rivers into the Hall of Fame. And I remember being
Speaker 1: on E and she was on E and she would
Speaker 1: try and you know, kind of engage with me or
Speaker 1: hang out and I just kind of had no time
Speaker 1: for her. And and and recently when I inducted her
Speaker 1: into the Hall, uh for Netflix, I you know, I
Speaker 1: spoke about that, like how I didn't realize how important
Speaker 1: and integral she is and every female comedian's past. She
Speaker 1: was doing stand up when when women were never doing it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't she the first big stand up coming Philis Diller
Speaker 1: and Joan Rivers? I believe. Yeah, I'm sure we're forgetting
Speaker 1: a couple, but those women were out there when it
Speaker 1: was a total man's game, you know. So when I
Speaker 1: was coming up, you know, to not give credit where
Speaker 1: credit is due is you know, something that I regret
Speaker 1: and not you know, and now really understand more comprehensively
Speaker 1: how important it is to recognize the people who open
Speaker 1: those doors for you, because you know, somebody always came
Speaker 1: before you. So you haven't You haven't told me who
Speaker 1: your heroes were. Oh so, I guess in hindsight, she
Speaker 1: would be a hero of mine. As far as a mentor,
Speaker 1: Jay Leno was really good to me when I was
Speaker 1: coming up. He had me on his show all the
Speaker 1: time doing kind of remote sketches and he was a
Speaker 1: good mentor. Again, we didn't have like a personal off
Speaker 1: camera relationship as much, but he was sweet to me.
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, I guess you know, I don't really
Speaker 1: think the old timers, No, No, I wasn't really in.
Speaker 1: I was who did you loved? Who did you loved?
Speaker 1: Jerry Lewis? Did Bill Cosby? So look where that got me? Well,
Speaker 1: you know he was on my show. I remember what
Speaker 1: a fantastic man he was. What the hill happened? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Yeah, well we were all duped. I remember
Speaker 1: growing up watching Bill Cosby thinking I wish my father
Speaker 1: had together, like that had been his own, you know,
Speaker 1: O B g y N office in our house, Like
Speaker 1: how great they live in this beautiful home. Now we
Speaker 1: know what he was doing in that O. B g
Speaker 1: y N office. I know, isn't it crazy? Yeah? It is.
Speaker 1: He came on my show and he had a beautiful
Speaker 1: switter on and I admired his sweaters, like cardigan, a
Speaker 1: male cable knit cardigan. Twitter. Next day I got a
Speaker 1: box from the store where he had bought his and
Speaker 1: he and he sent it to me. You know. Once
Speaker 1: I was in Atlantic City and he and I were
Speaker 1: both performing in the same casino, and he asked They
Speaker 1: asked me at the casino. They said, Bill Cosby wants
Speaker 1: to say hello to you. Will you go up to
Speaker 1: his hotel room? And luckily I was with four men
Speaker 1: and that we're working for me, and I brought them
Speaker 1: with me up to the hotel room. But when I
Speaker 1: showed up with those four guys to his hotel room,
Speaker 1: he was pissed, what do you what do you? What
Speaker 1: are you guys all doing here? And they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we worked with Chelsea goes you work. I had one
Speaker 1: guy who was opening for me in my opening comments.
Speaker 1: Do you think he had yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, his
Speaker 1: plan was thwarted. Huh oh dear, that's a said. That's
Speaker 1: the said part of the last I guess five years right, yes,
Speaker 1: that whole thing. Well, in two thousand and seven, you
Speaker 1: became the second woman in the history of television to
Speaker 1: host a late night gig, after Joan Rivers. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh so this is a monumental accomplishment. How did
Speaker 1: you celebrate? I celebrate, you know what. I I celebrated
Speaker 1: by really highlighting all of the other people that were
Speaker 1: on that show with me, all the comedians that came
Speaker 1: out of that show, of which there are so many
Speaker 1: that whose careers were launched on that show, like Fortune
Speaker 1: Feemster and Lonnie Love and Kevin Hart was a part
Speaker 1: of that show. Tiffany had it, Don't Love Kevin Hart Tiffany.
Speaker 1: My gosh, I did a skit with them. I mean
Speaker 1: I couldn't talk as fast as they could talk. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but both of them, I mean, heaven cannot shut up.
Speaker 1: They can't stop talking. Every time you turn on the TV,
Speaker 1: he's doing another commercial, and like, are you filming these
Speaker 1: commercials while you're sleeping? Right? It's so funny. So then
Speaker 1: you you did all this this stand up comedy, You
Speaker 1: did your shows, and then you started writing books. What's
Speaker 1: the process for you for writing a book? For me,
Speaker 1: it's it's long and painful. Yeah, and even though I
Speaker 1: am writing my hundred book, what yeah, hundred have hundreds?
Speaker 1: How's that possible? Well, because I've had help along the way.
Speaker 1: But I've been writing books on various subjects, all relating
Speaker 1: to living. But um, but the processes, you know, it's difficult.
Speaker 1: And we have to take pictures too, your books. At
Speaker 1: least you don't have to take pictures. Well, that would
Speaker 1: make it easier, I think, right, taking the pictures, writing
Speaker 1: to pictures is easy, it's easier. But what's your process?
Speaker 1: My process is I just started. I just signed a
Speaker 1: new Boo deal, so I'm starting my next book and Uh. I.
Speaker 1: My process is I just throw it all down, like
Speaker 1: I love the art of language, and I just I
Speaker 1: start writing. You know, in the beginning, I just throw
Speaker 1: it out and I put in a lot and it
Speaker 1: becomes a lot of noise in the beginning. And then
Speaker 1: it's kind of that process that I described for the
Speaker 1: stand up where you start refining it, you know, I
Speaker 1: throw it over to my editor. That's what I love
Speaker 1: about writing a book is having a sounding board in
Speaker 1: an editor, you know, who can kind of say, okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna work. It helps you shape it because
Speaker 1: that's what I have, all the material that's all in
Speaker 1: my head. I have stories and personal stories and you know,
Speaker 1: and memories that I can always share and I can
Speaker 1: in check that with humor always that's no problem. But
Speaker 1: it's the shape of the book to make it, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, to me do an outline first, No, I
Speaker 1: just start writing. I just start, you know, writing stuff down,
Speaker 1: and then well the working title is called the Filipino
Speaker 1: in Me, and uh, we'll see if that title sticks.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm going to write about my love store.
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to inspire all the people
Speaker 1: that are in my age group that may give up
Speaker 1: or think they're too old to meet someone, or you know,
Speaker 1: people lower their standards a lot because they think they're
Speaker 1: they freak out about not meeting the right person. And
Speaker 1: I want to just remind women and men and everything
Speaker 1: in between that you do not ever have to lower
Speaker 1: your standards because as long as you hold your standards
Speaker 1: at a certain level, that's where the person is going
Speaker 1: to come meet you. So it's self help in addition
Speaker 1: to yeah, it's yeah, but it'll be funny and I
Speaker 1: have my stand on it, you know. Tongue in Chief.
Speaker 1: Have you been to the Philippines. I'm about to go
Speaker 1: to the Philippines because he's got a big movie premiere
Speaker 1: there for his movie. Oh is he a producer, No,
Speaker 1: he's an actor a movie. Yeah, it's called Easter Sunday,
Speaker 1: And we're going to go to the Philippines for my
Speaker 1: very first time. And uh, yeah, I can't wait. Have
Speaker 1: you been to the Philippines? Yes, I had the best
Speaker 1: trip to the Philippines. Oh my gosh. We went to
Speaker 1: Manila and then went out for Manila to the rice patties.
Speaker 1: There's aishous food in the Philippines. Wait till you wait,
Speaker 1: you visit some of these amazing restaurants and uh, and
Speaker 1: I learned how to plant rice, and I visited a
Speaker 1: lot of crafts people who do beautiful, beautiful work there.
Speaker 1: You know, that's been one of the big manufacturing centers
Speaker 1: of the world of Philippines. And uh. Also I met
Speaker 1: a lot of very interesting people. Yeah, so you'll have
Speaker 1: a fabulous time. I'll give you my gener if you want. Oh,
Speaker 1: that would be great. Yeah, I love that. You should
Speaker 1: see a lot of this stuff. And there's it's just
Speaker 1: a it's a very very beautiful country and you just
Speaker 1: have you have to get out of the city a
Speaker 1: little bit, make sure you see the landscape. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: Filipino people are beautiful, so just loving and they're happy
Speaker 1: and they love karaoke. Yeah. Yeah. In your business, you
Speaker 1: also had to deal with hecklers and haters and how
Speaker 1: do you deal with that. I'm pretty good at shutting
Speaker 1: them up pretty quickly. I don't really have a high
Speaker 1: tolerance for people interrupting my show. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: ever since the Dave Chappelle thing happened, people are talking
Speaker 1: about that or the Chris Rock thing previous to that.
Speaker 1: At the Academy Awards, I mean hopefully that is. You know,
Speaker 1: everyone has had to double up on security that's doing
Speaker 1: live shows, and that includes me. But yeah, I do,
Speaker 1: you know, have security. I don't let that guide my
Speaker 1: performance or have fear of that, you know. I just
Speaker 1: kind of go out there and do my thing, and
Speaker 1: and I hope that nobody's wasting money paying on paying
Speaker 1: that amount of money to come interrupt a show. You know,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna get removed anyway. What do you think
Speaker 1: Chris Rock's gonna do? Um? I think he's handled himself
Speaker 1: with a lot of a plumb. I think that he's
Speaker 1: he did the right thing. The question is, what's Will
Speaker 1: Smith gonna do? You know, he's the one who looks
Speaker 1: like a real jackass. Well, what is going to happen
Speaker 1: to him? I don't know. I mean he's banned from
Speaker 1: the Academy Awards, so that's something. You know. That kind
Speaker 1: of behavior was just so shocking. Do you remember watching that? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was just I was in my kitchen watching the
Speaker 1: Economy Awards and I was utterly shocked. I thought at
Speaker 1: first it was an act. Yeah, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people did. Yeah. I was just like, what would
Speaker 1: I mean? I just can't imagine taking those steps on
Speaker 1: the stage thinking you have the right to get up
Speaker 1: on that stage and smack somebody like it just didn't
Speaker 1: didn't didn't make any sense at all. It's really embarrassing
Speaker 1: for him, Well it is. It's after such a fine performance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd way to take the moment out of it, you know,
Speaker 1: it was, it was horribly What makes the excellent comedian,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you you have done so much, You've
Speaker 1: you've transformed your comedy a lot. You think about it
Speaker 1: a lot, I guess, But what makes the really really
Speaker 1: great comedian? Now in retrospect, I think being a really
Speaker 1: good listener, because what you're doing is observing and paying
Speaker 1: attention to other people's behaviors and yourself. So you have
Speaker 1: to have the gift of self awareness, a you have
Speaker 1: to be aware of how you behave in this world,
Speaker 1: because it starts with the self deprecation, Like any real
Speaker 1: comic has to start talking about their shortcomings and their
Speaker 1: behavior that's embarrassing. And then and then, and it's being
Speaker 1: an observationist. So it's about watching people and really having
Speaker 1: a curiosity in my opinion, about other people. So do
Speaker 1: you invest in other comedians? Yes, oh yeah, all the time.
Speaker 1: I have deals in my production company developing comics. I
Speaker 1: always bring female comics on the road to open for me.
Speaker 1: You know, I am always looking. I love to make
Speaker 1: sure that I have my finger on the pulse of
Speaker 1: So when you go through Netflix, now there's a whole
Speaker 1: line just for comedy. Um like the Mrs masl Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think of her? Well, that was comedy
Speaker 1: in like the forties or fifties, so not really my
Speaker 1: cup of comedy. But I love the show and I
Speaker 1: love Rachel, but it's not like, you know, that's not
Speaker 1: funny anymore. It's like Lenny Bruce kind of comedy, you know.
Speaker 1: But she has a she has a mole phoner. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she has her mouth on her. But that's funny, like
Speaker 1: you know, in the time frame it took place, it's funny.
Speaker 1: But nowadays, if you saw a woman up there saying that,
Speaker 1: you'd be like, what is this, you know, and who's
Speaker 1: the who's the up and coming comics you excluded? Of course?
Speaker 1: Um on right now. Oh, there's a few. There's a
Speaker 1: Rosebud Baker, Matteo Lane, Vanessa Gonzalez. Yeah, so women and
Speaker 1: a guy Matteolane. Yeah, yeah, and he's he's something. Matteo
Speaker 1: Lane is awesome. Do you know, No, I've just I've
Speaker 1: just watched Oh yeah, yeah, incredible. Yeah. So there's comedy
Speaker 1: just keeps evolving. Yeah, I mean right now is a
Speaker 1: really good time for comedy because there's so many people
Speaker 1: coming up, so many young promising comics, and there's a
Speaker 1: diversity in comedy like that is loud Now there's so
Speaker 1: many Asian comics, there's so many black comics and that
Speaker 1: are getting the attention that they deserve. So we're not
Speaker 1: just seeing kind of you know, for a long time,
Speaker 1: there was like, you know, if Chappelle was the black
Speaker 1: comic or Kevin Hart. Now there is a plethora of
Speaker 1: them and that are getting their do and that's really
Speaker 1: nice to see because you know, white guys have had
Speaker 1: their kind of comedy being uh aired and getting like
Speaker 1: the advantage over everybody for a really long time. It's
Speaker 1: a male dominated field, so it's nice that it's opening
Speaker 1: up for women and for minorities in the way that
Speaker 1: it has been. And what about Robin Williams. He was
Speaker 1: one of my very, very very favorite people. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: what did you think of his oh, I mean he
Speaker 1: was have a computer mind. Yes, he had something special,
Speaker 1: extra special going on. His daughter, Zelda I ran into
Speaker 1: recently at um at the festival for Netflix, and she
Speaker 1: it's so funny because she has his mannerisms and yeah,
Speaker 1: and she sounds like him. And and my boy no
Speaker 1: she's not, she's a director, but she, uh, my boyfriend's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Zelda sounds exactly like Robin Williams. And
Speaker 1: when you watch Robin Williams, like they dected him into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame to the same night as Joan Rivers,
Speaker 1: and you watch him and you're just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this guy is otherworldly, Like you know, that's a cut
Speaker 1: above a comic. Like he had something extra special going on.
Speaker 1: I adored him him amazing. You spent some time with
Speaker 1: him in Yeah, he came on my show and and
Speaker 1: it was just like it was just like being with
Speaker 1: something other than a human being. Really, it was really
Speaker 1: like being with someone who thought faster, talk faster, reacted
Speaker 1: faster than anybody I've ever been with. Yeah everything, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and it was like just unusual. Yeah, he had a charge,
Speaker 1: a charge, and like a charge extra supercharged. He was
Speaker 1: like a Tesla, but a human my Tesla by the way,
Speaker 1: Yet yesterday and this heat lost its air conditioning. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was really not happy. No, I bet I would
Speaker 1: not have wanted to be around you. And then I
Speaker 1: called the Tesla dealer. You know, No, I didn't quite
Speaker 1: call it Ellen yet, but I'm about to because um,
Speaker 1: it's hot weather and I have to drive that car
Speaker 1: because I don't want to buy any gas at seven
Speaker 1: dollars a gallon, so um. I called the dealer first
Speaker 1: and they gave me an appointment for next Wednesday. That's
Speaker 1: not good because what do I do it till next Wednesday?
Speaker 1: Have to come to the city many times if you
Speaker 1: drive a gas guzzling car. Well, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Like with all of like, with the heat index going
Speaker 1: up the way it is with climate change, how is
Speaker 1: air conditioning continuing? It's going to continue because it's going
Speaker 1: to be a higher and higher demand. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have it on all your lockout And I know
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen everywhere. There's gonna be air conditioning blackouts
Speaker 1: starting already in the Midwest and in the West and
Speaker 1: South you know Texas, Like but um, but I'm mad
Speaker 1: about my Tesla. Yes, and I love my Tesla. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love my Tesla too. I I hear you believe me?
Speaker 1: You have one? Yeah, I have one too. Yeah. Another
Speaker 1: question about comedy again, What won't you talk at out
Speaker 1: because this is this is something that people do. Put
Speaker 1: up walls around there, or do you talk about everything?
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about everything. I mean, I try
Speaker 1: not to make fun of like ugly children, you know,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much off limits. Going after children, you know,
Speaker 1: or anyone who's handicap that's off limits. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it. So you know, you can be clever and
Speaker 1: still be respectful to people without subverting your comedy. Like
Speaker 1: it's people are complaining about how hard it is to
Speaker 1: be funny in this politically correct world. It's like, actually,
Speaker 1: all people are asking is for people not to be
Speaker 1: sexist or racist, Like that's not at all order. It's
Speaker 1: kind of easy to do that, And if you can't
Speaker 1: be clever with those parameters in place, then you should
Speaker 1: probably rethink what you're doing. You know, comedy is about
Speaker 1: making things funny, and you know your point of view,
Speaker 1: so I don't find that too limiting. Chelsea, you are
Speaker 1: an amazing person. You are a phenomenal comedian, You are
Speaker 1: a wonderful business woman. You are on your on your way.
Speaker 1: I mean you've been on your way, but you are
Speaker 1: on your way towards greater and greater things. And I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you taking the time to visit me here
Speaker 1: in New York in my office speak with us. I
Speaker 1: was supposed to, by the way, I just want all
Speaker 1: the listeners know, I was supposed to go to Martha's farm.
Speaker 1: And that was a something like a two hour drive
Speaker 1: that I was willing to take because I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not going to pass up Martha's farm.
Speaker 1: I'll invite you with another non business Okay, you'll come
Speaker 1: to a party or something. Do you live in New York? Ever? No,
Speaker 1: but I'm here a lot. Where do you stay in
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not gonna ask you where you stay in
Speaker 1: New York. Do you want your you want your hecklers
Speaker 1: to be out there? Oh? My gosh, Well never. We
Speaker 1: will never tell you where Chelsea stays in New York.
Speaker 1: But she will be visiting me at my farm where
Speaker 1: everybody knows I live and you know, yeah I live. Um,
Speaker 1: but but it's been a pleasure having thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. A