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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Sean Coleman.

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Speaker 3: Hope, wherever you are and where ever you are listening,

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Speaker 3: you yes you, yes, you, your friends, your family, everybody

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Speaker 3: is doing well, Hope anybody listening to Everybody in Braves

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Speaker 3: Country had a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be back with you once again.

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Speaker 1: Like I say this, it's even a bit better to

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Speaker 1: be back with one of the best when it comes

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Speaker 1: to breaking down the Braves Good Friend podcast partner Stephen Tolbert.

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Speaker 2: Stephen, good to see you against sir. Always glad to

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Speaker 2: do these with you.

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Speaker 4: What's up, buddy, It's been a minute. We were just

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Speaker 4: talking offline. It's been over a week since we've done

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Speaker 4: one of these together. And I say during the season

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Speaker 4: that never happens. We do two or three a week,

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Speaker 4: and so yeah, we obviously you know, the podcast took

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a break for Thanksgiving. We had

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Speaker 4: the show with Scott and Carlos that ran I think

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Speaker 4: the day before Thanksgiving. Scott and Bright did a show

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Speaker 4: on Sunday. So yeah, we're jumping back in and not

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Speaker 4: a moment too soon, because we got some we got

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Speaker 4: some very interesting stuff. That dropped this morning, and I

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Speaker 4: was tweeting about it earlier today, and it was the

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Speaker 4: buzz online all day to day people you know, throwing

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Speaker 4: out takes, throwing out trades, and so yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: jump right into this. This Byron Buxton stuff that dropped

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Speaker 4: about ten am this morning.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's give a bit, let's set the stage

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Speaker 1: a bit with a little bit of a timeline, you know,

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Speaker 1: so you go back to the twenty twenty five trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: and it was a bit of a boring one for

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Speaker 1: the Braves, but perhaps the most intriguing interesting news came out.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was Dan Hayes, who covers the athletic

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Speaker 1: for the Twins. He mentioned that he wrote a story

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Speaker 1: about the fact that some teams came coming about Byron Buxton,

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Speaker 1: who has a full no trade clause with the Twins.

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Speaker 1: And this was in the midst of Byron Buxton having

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Speaker 1: one of the best seasons of his career, one of

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Speaker 1: the best healthiest seasons he's had in quite a while.

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Speaker 1: And he mentioned that the Braves and the Mets were

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Speaker 1: two of the teams that really stood out as having

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Speaker 1: interest in Buxton. But he also pointed out Buxton loves Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: and it was very unlikely, almost seemed impossible that he

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Speaker 1: was going to wave his no trade clause, but he

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Speaker 1: was at least intriguing to see that was a target

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Speaker 1: season and we start to, you know, kind of speculate,

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Speaker 1: you know, Okay, could we revisit Byron Buxton. Braves coaching

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Speaker 1: staff gets a big turnover. A couple of notable names

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Speaker 2: To Byron Buxton.

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Speaker 1: Don't want to you know, blow that out of proportion

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Speaker 1: or anything, but just something notable. And then we started

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Speaker 1: to hear rumblings, you know, Byron Buxton could be a

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Speaker 1: bit more open to waving that no trade clause depending

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Speaker 1: on what the Twins do. And then today Jeff Passon

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Speaker 1: and Kyle McDaniel of ESPN released their top twenty five

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Speaker 1: trade candidates and Byron Buxton is number five on the list. Now,

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Speaker 1: the thing that stood out to me, Stephen was this

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Speaker 1: was number one Byron Buxton. The first thing Jeff Passon mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Byron Buxton would be willing to trade to waive his

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Speaker 1: no trade clause in the right situation, especially if the

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Speaker 1: Twins quote unquote, we're going to trade away some of

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Speaker 1: their headliners. We're going to continue to go into a

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Speaker 1: full rebuild. At that point, Buxton would be willing.

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Speaker 2: To waive his no trade clause.

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Speaker 1: But even more eye opening to me is that he

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Speaker 1: top twenty five list that the Braves are connected to

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Speaker 1: didn't go to the links he did with Buxton and

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Speaker 1: the Braves with any other player, any other team. That

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Speaker 1: tells me there's smoke, that tells me that it's understood

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Speaker 1: that this is just more than a pipe dream or

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Speaker 1: real interest. And that's where the most intrigued comes from from,

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Speaker 1: the most intriguing support we've gotten so far in this offseason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is this is as smoky as

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Speaker 4: you get for the Braves. You know, we don't get

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Speaker 4: a lot of this. You know, you get the random

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Speaker 4: everybody responding to it. This is Jeff Passen pointing out

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Speaker 4: I think most people know that by now, on top

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Speaker 4: of the fact that there was already smoke when the Athletic,

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Speaker 4: like you mentioned Dan Hayes of the Athletic, who covers

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Speaker 4: The Twins for the Athletic right after the trade deadline

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Speaker 4: mentioned the Braves called the Twins about Byron Buxton, and

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Speaker 4: at the time Buxton gave a very kind of no

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Speaker 4: nonsense answer about I am not waving my no trade clause.

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Speaker 4: People remember, like it was a very very loud and

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Speaker 4: clear no, I'm not I love in Minnesota. I'm not

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Speaker 4: waving my no trade clause. And you know, when you

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Speaker 4: have a full no trade clause, that can really kind

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Speaker 4: of be the beginning and the end of the conversation.

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Speaker 4: If you have no interest in waving your no trade clause,

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Speaker 4: then that's it. That's, you know, there's nothing else to

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Speaker 4: been the number one in him to a deal for

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Speaker 4: leave Minnesota. That's what made today's news so notable and

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Speaker 4: so interesting, not only that he's willing to do it,

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Speaker 4: but that the Braves were directly connected by the number

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Speaker 4: one insider in the entire sport, Jeff Passon of ESPN,

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Speaker 4: who breaks more news and is more connected than anybody.

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Speaker 4: So this is a fascinating, fascinating conversation. I you know,

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Speaker 4: I tweeted this out at like ten a nine am

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Speaker 4: about the pros of Byron Buckston, the cons of Byron Buckston,

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Speaker 4: how much they think it will cost, like and there's

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Speaker 4: left field opinion. We're gonna talk about it all. The

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Speaker 4: the we'll get to the injury stuff, and we'll get

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Speaker 4: to the cost. The thing I want to start with first, though,

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Speaker 4: is that you do not you are not given the

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Speaker 4: opportunity to trade for a talent like Byron Buxton. Basically, ever,

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Speaker 4: these guys do not get traded. This is the Ronald

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Speaker 4: 'cuney junior of the Minnesota Twins. And just think, if

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Speaker 4: Would you be trading ronaldal cune junior at any point?

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Speaker 4: Is that? This is that level of talent. This is

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Speaker 4: You do not get the opportunity to trade for players

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Speaker 4: And if there is a real possibility that the Braves

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Speaker 4: about it because this is the kind of impact bat

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Speaker 4: that the Braves desperately need in their lineup in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: And then we've talked about it all offseason, we talked

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Speaker 4: glossing over the holes in the offense too much. I

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Speaker 4: know the team needs pitching, I know the team needs bullpen.

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Speaker 4: But in my opinion, what we've watched the last two

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Speaker 4: along the way, the offense has gotten kind of ignored

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Speaker 4: in all of these conversations about what the Brave should

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Speaker 4: much higher on the list. And Byron Buxton is a

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Speaker 4: type of hitter that changes your lineup. He is a

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Speaker 4: You know, he's just a monster. He's like a one

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Speaker 4: thirty WRC plus hitter. You do not get those guys.

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Speaker 4: Those guys do not become available very often. And so yes,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna get into the injury stuff. We're definitely gonna

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Speaker 4: get into how much it's gonna cost, because some people

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Speaker 4: headline is guys at his level don't get trip very often.

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Speaker 4: If you have a chance to do it, you need

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Speaker 1: Aggressive one thousand percent. And again I want to hit

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Speaker 1: on I don't think that it's talked about enough. When

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Speaker 1: you when you see a guy who just is so

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Speaker 1: purely naturally talented. Like we see what Ronald d'acuna Junior

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Speaker 1: despite the injuries that he has had, Byron Buxton is

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Speaker 1: all the injuries that he has had. Steven Here's where

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Speaker 1: he was at the age of thirty one this past year,

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Speaker 1: ninetieth percentile or above according to Baseball sabot and batting

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Speaker 1: exit velocity, barrel percentage, hard hit percentage. He was eighty

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Speaker 1: that Byron Buckson is a top ten player of all time.

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Speaker 1: He is one of the ten most naturally talented offensive

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Speaker 1: the recent past that's what is amazing. And I mentioned

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Speaker 1: all that to say this. I know Alexanthopolis can talk

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Speaker 1: Alex and Thoppolis can talk about needing to get a

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Speaker 1: they reflected what the simple truth, the unfortunate truth is

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Speaker 1: over the past two years, injuries and underperformance have been

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Speaker 1: the two big things that have made us not get

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Speaker 1: to expectations the past two years. It's been injuries for

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Speaker 1: Alex and Dopplas can talk about pitching all he wants,

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Speaker 1: and I think he adds a notable name to the

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Speaker 1: a difference maker, and that's why you get aggressive for

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Speaker 1: Byron Buxton, especially especially when you have a situation. I

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Speaker 1: know an outfield. Adding an outfielder may not seem like

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Speaker 2: Like that to really give guys, the ability.

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Speaker 1: To remain fresh, remain healthy. It really is a good

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Speaker 1: situation and more than anything, for three years and forty

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Speaker 1: five million, it's an excellent ad. You want to talk

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's go through the pros real quick. We'll

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Speaker 4: go through I promise we're gonna go through the cons.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about the injuries. I know people will

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Speaker 4: Foremost, Byron Buxton is a superstar player. We just covered

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Speaker 4: that MVP level hitter, runner, fielder. He's awesome. He can

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Speaker 4: And this is important because assuming you still have Michael

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Speaker 4: this is what I wanted the Braves to do. For

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Speaker 4: I know Sean Murphy and Trick Baldwin. That's kind of

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Speaker 4: don't know what Sean Murphy is gonna be like next year.

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Speaker 4: The guy just had hip surgery. Also, he's been extremely

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Speaker 4: This is gonna piss some people off, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: say it anyways. We don't know what we're gonna get

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Speaker 4: It would not, it should not stun anybody. If that

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Speaker 4: Ronald Lacuna Junior in medals. That's it. Those are the

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Speaker 4: can he can dh he can play left field, he

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Speaker 1: And here's the other big thing. Talent wise, he adds

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Speaker 4: That's crazy to think about that. Think about Ronald Coone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, in a vacuum, it makes a lot

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Speaker 2: So Steven.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about Byron Buxton again, the the the

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Speaker 4: father time starts catching up. The fact that he was

431
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 4: still ninety ninth in sprint speed last year is absurd.

432
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 4: That's a really good sign that his athleticism has not

433
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: gone anywhere. You know, it's not quite like a Kunya

434
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 4: where he's had two major knee reconstructions and so you

435
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 4: worry about the athleticism long term. That's not Bucks, and

436
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: Bucks has always had. You know, It's been different types

437
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: of inergies with him. But the injuries have to be

438
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 4: accounted for it, and you have to be accounted for

439
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 4: when you talk about the trade package. They have to

440
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 4: be accounted for when you talk about the lineup. Again,

441
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: I think the Braves need to be hyper aggressive with

442
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: the DH and rotating these guys around to try to

443
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 4: keep as many guys healthy as possible. But the injuries

444
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 4: matter and they have to be factored in.

445
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

446
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: And again, you know, it's that one hundred to one

447
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty games is likely what he would play

448
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: if he was a member of your team, But with

449
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: the rotation that the Braves would have in place in

450
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: their outfield, it's also about what one hundred to one

451
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty games that he plays and if he

452
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Speaker 1: and Akoonie are both healthy going into the playoffs, that

453
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: that is a championship worthy combination potentially, And that is

454
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: a reason why the Braves should be aggressive. But another

455
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 1: reason why, perhaps the biggest reason why I of all

456
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: the Braves should be aggressive, is that we can talk

457
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: about the injuries, we can talk about the history of

458
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 1: the injuries. You can look at the Twins situation and

459
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: think that they may be willing to want to get

460
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: off of his money. I want to make something very clear,

461
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: if the Braves were to pursue Byron Buxton, it is

462
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: going to hurt when it comes to the cost they

463
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: are going to have to pay, just because of his

464
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: injury history, because of the long term money that he's owed,

465
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Speaker 1: because of the Twins situation. Yes, that those are contributing

466
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: factors to why they may look to trade him. That

467
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: doesn't drive down the cost though to where it would

468
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: not cost a lot. I think the Brave should be

469
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Speaker 1: willing to pay it. But it's going to exceed what

470
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: many think it's going to be the type of payment

471
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Speaker 1: in terms of prospects that really will show up in

472
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Speaker 1: terms of the quality that will remain in the minor

473
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Speaker 1: league system. If they were to make the trade.

474
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So one of the things that I've watched today

475
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: in mine mentions and other people's mentioned, you know, this

476
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 4: conversation has been raging all day since passing Drop, this

477
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: is everybody's got a fake trade, right, everybody's got a

478
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 4: fake trade idea of what it's going to cost. And

479
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: I think almost universally, every fake trade, I mean, fake

480
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 4: trades are always terrible, but every fake trade I've seen

481
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: doesn't quite get that Byron Buckson is going to cost

482
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: a ton. First of all, he's controlled for three more years.

483
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 4: This is not a rental in any way, shape or

484
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 4: for him. He has got three years of team control,

485
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 4: which is massive. That is tremendously valuable on the trade market. Second,

486
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 4: like we've already talked about, he is a a one

487
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 4: superstar level talent, Ronald Cuno junior level talent, and these

488
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: guys do not come available very often. So there's also

489
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: almost a scarcity that gets tacked onto the value of

490
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Speaker 4: just the odds and the chances that you're ever gonna

491
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: be able to trade for somebody else like him is

492
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 4: you know, it's not gonna come around again. And then third,

493
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 4: he makes fifteen million dollars a year, which is dirt cheap.

494
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 4: He's got I think it's three years and forty five

495
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: million dollars left on his contract. He signed a big

496
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 4: contract extension with the Twins. I think twenty twenty one

497
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: or twenty twenty two, I can't remember what it was,

498
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: but he's he's about halfway through it now. But he's

499
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: got three years and four that's nothing. That's how much

500
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Speaker 4: Jersey Profile mix. And I got news for you. Barron

501
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: Buckston is a hell a lot better in Jerkson Profar,

502
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 4: but they make the same amount of money. So the

503
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: trade cost is going to hurt. And I want Bradce

504
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: fans to hear that. You know, trading Bryce Elder and

505
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: Nacho Alvarez is not gonna get you, Barron Buxton. I've

506
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 4: seen too much of that trade and Hayden Harris and

507
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 4: Nacho Alvarez and pick a nineteen year old from a

508
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 4: ball is not gonna get you, Barron Buxton. You need

509
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: to go to the very top of the Braves prospect list.

510
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: Like if I'm the Twins, the first name I asked for,

511
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: like I'm gonna ask for Drake Baldwin. The Braid's not

512
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 4: gonna say yes to that. But the next name I

513
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: asked for is gonna be Herston Waltrup. I want a

514
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 4: guy that I think might be able to start at

515
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 4: the top of my rotation for the next six seven years.

516
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: The next guy I'm asking for is cam Cameniddi or

517
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: maybe even a J. Smith Schalver. I'm asking for a

518
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: ton for like your top three prospects, and the Braves

519
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: don't have the best farm system in the world. Their

520
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: top three prospects are not exactly the same as another

521
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: team that maybe has a top ten farm system. Giving up,

522
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 4: you know, two of their top prospects and then another

523
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 4: one lower down, it's going to hurt. And I just

524
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: what I don't want to see. What's gonna annoy me

525
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: is if I see all these people clamoring for a

526
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: Byron Buckston trade and then get mad at the team

527
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: when they do it because it costs a lot, It's

528
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: gonna hurt. It's gonna cost a lot. Now we're gonna

529
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: talk about the draft in a way the Braves can

530
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 4: potentially replenish some of those prospects at the end of

531
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Speaker 4: this show. But first and foremost, what I want people

532
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: to hear from this is that Byron trading for Byron

533
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: Buston is extremely expensive. He is the type of process

534
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: He's the type of player that never gets traded. He's

535
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 4: a type of talent that doesn't get traded. He's on

536
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: a contract that is dirt cheap. It's one of the

537
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: best players in Baseball's got three years of team control

538
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: that is crazy expensive. It is going to hurt. It

539
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: is going to be names you do not want to trade.

540
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: So just understand that. Understand that going in, and it

541
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: might it might be to the point where it's prohibibly,

542
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: prohibitively expensive. It might be the thing that stops the

543
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: Brads from doing it. But we would be disingenuous if

544
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: we did not come on the show and say training

545
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: for Byerbusten is going to be incredibly expensive.

546
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: And the other important factor into this is, as much

547
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: as we want to talk about how much this makes

548
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: sense for the Braves, and you know how he the

549
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: Braves may be the preference of Byron Buckston for different reasons.

550
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: I know that he has a full no trade clause,

551
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: but Jeff Passing hinted at it, and Byron Buxton probably

552
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: would have him sent up to do it. The Braves

553
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: are not the only team that he would raise his

554
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: no trade cause to go to. That's the one, But

555
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: more importantly, there probably are other teams out there, And

556
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: I'll go as far as saying, like the New York Mets,

557
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: for instance, who probably make a bit more sense for

558
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: Minnesota to talk to than the Braves, because those teams

559
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: probably would be able to offer a bit higher prospect

560
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: package just because of the quality that's in their system

561
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: that I.

562
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Speaker 4: Think the Mets have the number one farm system in basically.

563
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: And it's heavily filled with Position Blair prospects that is

564
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: very realistic like that that could easily happen, and from

565
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: Minnesota's perspective, that's what they're going to value. As we

566
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Speaker 1: mentioned going back to twenty fifteen, Byron Buxton was Minnesota's

567
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: Ronald Acuna JUNI. They're looking to rebuild potentially, So if

568
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: they're looking to do that, their best way to get

569
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: a successful start to the rebuild is hitting a home

570
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: run with this Byron Buxton trade. And the Braves are

571
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: not in as good position as other teams to be

572
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: able to offer that.

573
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a good This is not a salary.

574
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: They're not clearing salary with the Byron bucks and trade.

575
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: Like some of the other deals they did at the deadline,

576
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: they were clearing salary. Byron Buckson for his talent level

577
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: is underpaid by a ton. This is not a some

578
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 4: albatross contract that and I saw that too. We're like, well,

579
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: the Twins are trying to get off his money. His

580
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: money is a asset.

581
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: It is not a liability, especially coming after last season.

582
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

583
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is so far in the green in terms

584
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: of positive trade value and surplus trade value. His contract,

585
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 4: in no way, shape or form is some albatross hanging

586
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,239
Speaker 4: around their neck that they need to clear. People need

587
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: to get that out of their head. He makes nothing

588
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: relative to his talent level, So it's like it's just

589
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: like a Cunya, Just like Acunya he make. Acunya makes

590
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: seventeen million dollars next year. Buckston makes fifteen million dollars

591
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: next year, and they're both like MVP level players. It's

592
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: exactly like Ronald Acuna Junior. So this is not the

593
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: Twins needing to dump money and will be willing to

594
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: take whatever package this is if we're going to trade

595
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: our franchise, which is what Byron Buckson is we need

596
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: a monster haul in return that our fans see and

597
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: they're like, Okay, we're gonna rebuild, but at least we're

598
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: kicking it off with a hell of a trade. And

599
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: that's like, that's the that's the mindset as a Braves fan,

600
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: you got to get into in terms of what this

601
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: is gonna cost, and.

602
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: The Braves should be willing to trade that level of package.

603
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: But again it also needs to be understood what the

604
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: Braves can offer as that type of package in their

605
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: terms may not be to the level that other teams

606
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: could and that's going to be a big factor for

607
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: the twins. And for that being said, I know that

608
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: you know Joe Ryan, Pablo Lopez, there are a couple

609
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: other twins, and you know we have been talking about

610
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: a starting pitcher as well. Just to be candid, the

611
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: Braves do not have the assets needed to go after

612
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: a package deal of Byron Buxton and one of Joe

613
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Ryan and Pablo Lopez to be able to get that

614
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: deal done. The reason why I say that Minnesota, if

615
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: you go to them and you ask for Byron Buckston

616
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: plus one of Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez, they're going

617
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: to come back and say, we need Spencer Swellenbach or

618
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Drake Baldwin to be the centerpiece of the deal along

619
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: with two of Hirst and Waldrip cam Kemmenedtti and Jr.

620
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Richie and the Twins are right in asking for that.

621
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Speaker 1: If they're trading that, do that level of duo in

622
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: low Pez and Ryan plus Buxton. I know I throw

623
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: a lot of names out there. I know that I'm speculating,

624
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, maybe to more than people may like. The

625
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Braves do not have the goods or the Braves do

626
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: not do The Braves are not going to be willing

627
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: to pay the level of goods that they'll need to

628
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: pay to land Byron Buxton plus a Pablo Lopez or

629
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Speaker 1: a Joe Ryan Byron Bucks. If the Braves trade for

630
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: Byron Buxton, that's going to be their it move. That's

631
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: going to be They're all in big move, not only

632
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: of this offseason, but of this window. I think that

633
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: needs to be made clear. It's worth doing, But expanding

634
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: on it just doesn't make sense.

635
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, package package deals like that are very rare. Anyways,

636
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: if you're the selling, you can almost always get more

637
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: splitting the players up into separate deals because when you

638
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: put them together, the values get kind of jumbled together

639
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 4: and you're not next to not necessarily maximizing either guy.

640
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: And so teams don't typically do it when they have

641
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: multiple you know, anytime a team is fire selling like

642
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: the Twins just did at the deadline, they didn't combine

643
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 4: a bunch of players. They made seven different trades to

644
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: you know, different teams. That's what you do if the

645
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: and I still think the Twins are gonna trade, their

646
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: GM came out at the beginning of the GM meetings

647
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: and said that they're gonna build around Pablo Lopez and

648
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 4: Joe Ryan. That doesn't make any sip. You don't rebuild.

649
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 4: You don't build around thirty year old pitchers. So that's

650
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: just that's is just the GM talking to avoid saying, yeah,

651
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: we're gonna sell these guys. I still think both guys

652
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: are gonna get traded. But yeah, if you're starting for

653
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: Byron Buckston, you're already giving up a chunk of your

654
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: farm system. And the Braves, like we've talked about, they've

655
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: got good players at the top of their farm system,

656
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: but they don't have the depth. You know, I remember

657
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: last year the like when the Red Sox traded for

658
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: Garrett Crochet. The Red Sox made this massive trade for

659
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 4: Garrett Crochet and at the end still had Roman Anthony

660
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: and Marcelo Meyer and a bunch of other guys that

661
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: are awesome prospects in their farm system. After they traded

662
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: for Garrett Crochet. Well, the Braves don't have that. The

663
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: Braves can't make a massive trade like that and still

664
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Speaker 4: have a bunch of you know, they don't have that level. Yes,

665
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 4: they can make one of these trades by combining enough

666
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 4: big time names, but that's kind of their limit right now.

667
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: So yes, I do not see any sort of like

668
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 4: package deal. Those don't really happen that much anyways. Teams

669
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 4: just get more by splitting players up. So I would

670
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 4: not expect public I wouldn't expect. I honestly would not

671
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: expect the Byron Buxton deal to happen. Most trades don't happen.

672
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 4: I certainly wouldn't wouldn't expect some sort of package deal.

673
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that passon was correct and giving

674
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: it about a thirty five percent chance.

675
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 4: And that might and that might be high.

676
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's very fair because again, the

677
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: twins that they can always keep it, you know that

678
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: they can us.

679
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing forcing them to trade it.

680
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it makes sense coming off the healthiest

681
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: season he's had in his career, plus the best season

682
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: he's had in his career. Arguably that does make sense.

683
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: But they don't have to trade him. But in terms

684
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: of the Braids, one other you know, point that I

685
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: think in terms of the off season that I think

686
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: is worth making. Again, you're if you trade for Biban

687
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Bucks and again that clearly is your big move of

688
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: the off season, as it should be. But but I

689
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: do think that there will be some significance in we

690
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: know the Braids want to add a starter, probably just

691
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: as much as they want to add a bat. And

692
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: even though I think going after Buckston should be where

693
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: they're their most aggressive, I think that them adding a

694
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: picture will probably happen first before a Buston deal does.

695
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: I think the level at which they go to to

696
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: add a picture couldn't give us a bit of an

697
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: encation how serious or how potentially likely a Buckston move is.

698
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: For instance, if the Braves were to go out and

699
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: sign you know, some type of picture like say it's

700
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: a Chris Bassett or somebody like that you know to

701
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: a two year deal. You know, in the twenty five

702
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: to thirty million dollars deal, that's not that expensive of

703
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: a contract. You've not traded to way any prospects, and

704
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: you're not going out to get a headline guy. Agive,

705
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: the Braves need reliable depth for their pitching rotation. If

706
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: the Braves were to go to that level to go

707
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: get a starting pitcher, then you really could see, Okay,

708
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: they've added their starter, but they still have all that

709
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: they need to go make a Buston deal happen. Now,

710
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: if the Braves were to go out and trade for

711
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: a what you would consider a frontline starter, I think

712
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: that makes a Buckston deal less likely. So in terms

713
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: of the timeline and kind of how to give an

714
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: idea of how likely a bucks And deal were to happen,

715
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that the Buxton deal happened soon. I

716
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: think the Braves probably add their arm before they were

717
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: to pursue a Bucks sty. But I do think the

718
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: level to which they go and how they go about

719
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: adding that arm could give an indication of how serious

720
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Speaker 1: they are of getting Byron Buckston.

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Speaker 4: No, it's a good point. I mean, if they yeah,

722
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: if they If they call the Mariners and say, hey,

723
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 4: we're gonna we want Lewis Castillo, you know what kind

724
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: of prospect package you're gonna need for him, then yeah,

725
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: that definitely decreases the chances you're gonna have enough left

726
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: to be And this is we don't frame it like

727
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 4: this a lot, but we need to frame it like

728
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 4: this more. You have to have the best offer for

729
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 4: Byron Buxton out of however many teams are bidding on him.

730
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 4: Your prospect package has to be the best. So what

731
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: are the odds that you can trade for a guy

732
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 4: like Luis Castillo or pick your favorite you know, pitch

733
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 4: er target and still have the best trade offer for

734
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: Byron Buckston. It's it's not high. It's probably one or

735
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 4: the other. But like you said, if they go and

736
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Speaker 4: sign Merril Kelly for you know, a reasonable contract sixteen

737
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 4: seventeen million dollars, don't have to give up the draft pick,

738
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Speaker 4: which again we're gonna talk about here in a second,

739
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 4: and don't give up any prospects obviously for a free

740
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 4: agent signing, then hell yeah, I mean you could certainly

741
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: see like big green light, they're clearly not gonna do

742
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: their big move on the rotation. Maybe their big move

743
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 4: is gonna be Byron Buckston. So you're right, it does.

744
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: It is an indication. You know, if they went out

745
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: and signed Ranger. You know, if we got the blue

746
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 4: box tomorrow that they went out and signed Ranger Suarez

747
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: and gave up the draft pick to do it, I

748
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: would probably be in the middle be like, well, they

749
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: could technically still go get Bucksing because they haven't given

750
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: up any prospects yet, but that would be that would

751
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: be at the high end of their payroll because Suarez

752
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: is probably gonna cost twenty five million dollars and Buxton

753
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: would cost another fifteen. So then you get into like

754
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: luxury tax stuff, which're not gonna get into on this

755
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: show until it actually happens. Not gonna do hypothetical luxury

756
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: tax stuff. It gets way too complicated. So yeah, you're right,

757
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: I mean, what what they do there? And Scott made

758
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: this point in our DMS today, the picture market is

759
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: moving like we've seen multiple big time pictures. You know.

760
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: Obviously Dylan Ceese and the Sunny Gray Tray happen. There's

761
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: a couple more in the last couple of days. I

762
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: know Helsley signed, who's the guy from the KBO that

763
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: just signed his name just left my head haunts. Yeah

764
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: with the Blue Jays. Yeah, just got thirty million from

765
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 4: the Blue Jays. So the picture market is moving. We

766
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: could definitely see that move happen first. But I do

767
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 4: agree with you. I think you could certainly tell by

768
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: what they do on that side of the ball. You

769
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 4: could you could probably draw a line to does that

770
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: increase or decrease the likelihood of Buxton.

771
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's gonna be fascinating to watch at the end.

772
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Speaker 1: You know, We've talked about it from many different perspectives,

773
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Speaker 1: but I feel that me and Steven are on the

774
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: same page, and Stephen correct me if I'm wrong. If

775
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: there is an off season to go get it done,

776
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: you have so many reasons to go get it done.

777
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: The team needs to, the offense needs it.

778
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: You know, you want to win now. In this window,

779
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: you have the ability to eventually replenish what you trade away.

780
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: With the fact that you have a pretty stacked opportunity

781
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: to make this a very good draft to add to your.

782
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: System, go get it done.

783
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that you need to go crazy in

784
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: getting it done. The Braves need to pay the high

785
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: cost that it's going to take. But if the opportunity

786
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: is there, get it done, get it squared away. It

787
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: seems like that there again, isn't just speculation, you know,

788
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: this isn't speculation. This seems to be more smoke than anything.

789
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: It seems like that there's general interest in wanting to

790
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: get it done. If you see the finish line within

791
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: breach across it. Again, if it makes sense, but we

792
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: be willing to make it make sense, I think is

793
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: the best way to put it. But again we talk

794
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: about why the Braves should do it. It's because, as

795
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: we mentioned before, the Braves are really set up well

796
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: to add a lot of talent from the twenty twenty

797
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: six draft, which is expected to be one of the

798
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: best ones we've seen in a while. The opportunities there

799
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: for the Braves to add a lot of good talent

800
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: to their pharma system from the twenty sixth draft. More

801
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: on that in just a moment. So, Stephen, let's talk

802
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: about the two and twenty six draft, and most importantly,

803
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: let's talk about a week from now December ninth. Now,

804
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: when you I know that many people who listen to

805
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: this podcast as Braves fans, they're Hawks fans. We may

806
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: have some Hornets fans. We may have some Grizzlies fans,

807
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: We may have some Pelicans fans, so on and so forth.

808
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: I mentioned all those teams because in recent years those

809
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: team fans of those teams have been able to be

810
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: excited in the NBA Draft. Well, the Major League Baseball

811
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: now has a version of that's probably not to the

812
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: same level as the NBA Draft, honestly, but they do have.

813
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: The two thousand and twenty six draft lottery next Tuesday,

814
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: December Night, not sure at the time at the moment,

815
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: but it is noteworthy because the Braves are right middle

816
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: in terms of getting the potential to have a top pick. Now,

817
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: the ability for them to get an overall top pick

818
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: is pretty low, but they have I believe a forty

819
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: five percent chance to get a top six pick, and

820
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: I think like a seventy five percent chance.

821
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Speaker 2: To get a top eight pick.

822
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: This is a noteworthy night because the storyline of the

823
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: twenty sixth draft, that is that in terms of the

824
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: top ten of the twenty sixth draft, the position player

825
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: depth in this draft is one of the best in

826
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: terms of quality that we've seen in recent history. So

827
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: next Tuesday, December ninth. It's going to be an important

828
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: day that will tell us where the Braves will pick

829
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: in the first round, and that could really, really, really

830
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: be a good night for the Braves in terms of

831
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: again adding quality to their minor league system.

832
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it came out today, I think it was today.

833
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: I think it was this morning that the comp or

834
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 4: the pick that the Braves got for Drake Baldwin winning

835
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year was gonna be the twenty sixth

836
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 4: pick in the draft, which I think has like three

837
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: and a half million dollars tied to it in terms

838
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: of its pool. And then on top of that, what

839
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: Sean was just talking about is they're gonna get a

840
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 4: top ten pick of some most likely get a top

841
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 4: ten pick. I think they're guaranteed to get a top

842
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: ten pick. I think they have like a seventy five

843
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 4: or eighty percent chance to get a top eight pick,

844
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: and then I think you would say like forty five

845
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: percent to get a top six. So it could be

846
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 4: a massive night for the Braves. And it's this this

847
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: does tie to the Buxton conversation because, like we just said,

848
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: to trade for Buckston, you're gonna have to deplete your

849
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 4: farm system a little bit at the top, not a

850
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: little bit, a significant amount at the top to satisfy

851
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 4: whatever Minnesota is gonna ask for, because they're gonna be

852
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: able to ask that from a lot of teams. Well,

853
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 4: you can then turn around in next July's draft and

854
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: replenish a lot of that talent because you're gonna have

855
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: I mean, let's be honest in terms of like ability

856
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 4: to add impact players. This is probably the bravest, most

857
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: significant draft in a decade since the rebuild. I think

858
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: that's fair. I don't think that's hyperbole. And you add

859
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: the fact that not only are they going to have

860
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: a top ten pick, but they've got this extra what

861
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: is effectively a first round pick, all of this draft

862
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 4: pool money, and obviously if they sign a qualified free agent,

863
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: they would lose that pick, so we need to mention that.

864
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 4: But if they don't sign a qualified free agent, if

865
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 4: they's instead trade for somebody like Byron Buxton as their

866
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: big move and keep that pick, they can add a

867
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: ton of talent, a ton of talent in the draft,

868
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 4: including like a clear headline whatever you take. You know,

869
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 4: let's say they get the fifth pick in the draft,

870
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: whatever it is. We'll know in a week. The draft

871
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: lotteries on Tuesday, in the middle of the Winter meetings.

872
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 4: Winter meetings start on Sunday. Let's say they take the

873
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: fifth pick. Well, whoever they take there, assuming it's a

874
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 4: guy who's around the that level of ranking in the

875
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 4: it's probably gonna be the best player in the Braves

876
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 4: farm system, or very close to the best player in

877
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 4: the Brais farm system, depending on where you have Cam

878
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: Kevin Dye and depending on how Jr. Richie and you know,

879
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 4: we'll see what these all these shortstops the Brave's drafted

880
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: last year end up doing next year. But yes, this

881
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 4: is a massive opportunity to significantly upgrade your farm system.

882
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: And it's a massive opportunity to potentially replenish your farm

883
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: system if you, for instance, make a very large trade

884
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 4: that's going to take multiple top prospects. So it's all connected.

885
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 4: We did learn today that the Baldwood pick is going

886
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: to be twenty six. We'll learn next week, a week

887
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: from today, actually what that top pick is where they

888
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: fall in the in the lottery. But yeah, it's a significant,

889
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 4: easily the most significant draft of the Braves in probably

890
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 4: a decade.

891
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the only one that would compare to

892
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: it was the the two thousand and seventeen or eighteen

893
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: draft where they didn't sign the pitcher Carter Sam's Carter

894
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: than they.

895
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: Did car Start. Yeah, I guess those I guess those

896
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: rebuild drafts were pretty high, like I was. But he

897
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: was was a third third pickin he was under he

898
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 4: went under. They went under slot for him. Colin Wright

899
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: was like a fifth pick.

900
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

901
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: The year after they didn't sign Carter Stewart, they had

902
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: the ninth pick and they picked picked say Langlers and

903
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: then they had the first pick and they picked Braid

904
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: and Shoe make. So that would that would be the

905
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: most recent draft that compares. But again I want to

906
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: talk about the addition of that twenty sixth pick due

907
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: to Drake Baldwin winning Rookie of the Year. The reason

908
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: why that again is so important is because of that

909
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: slot money and what the Braves can do with that

910
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: slot money. We've talked about and want to reemphasize again.

911
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: Now that they've got all that money to work with

912
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: the really add quality talent in this draft, you could

913
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: replenish what you trade away to go get a difference

914
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: maker like a Byron Buxton. So it gives your reason

915
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: to be aggressive and go do it. But the other

916
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: point that I want to make is this is bec

917
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: because you have that extra pick and that extra slot money,

918
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: the Braves, whether it's been in the top ten or

919
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: whether it's been in the twenties, they more often than

920
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: not have wanted to take advantage of the slot money

921
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: and kind of go an underslot guy with their first

922
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: pick so they can have more money to work with

923
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: in the draft. I think that's fine if you want

924
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: to do it with that twenty six pick, But now

925
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: that you've got that twenty six pick in that slot money,

926
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: just like you can be aggressive into trade, go be

927
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: aggressive and get a headline, legitimate top five, six, seven

928
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: talent in what's.

929
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 2: Supposed to be a top heavy loaded.

930
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: Draft that really could bring your top position player in

931
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: years into the system. That's the other stage that the

932
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: Braves can be aggressive on. Because they landed this extra pick,

933
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: they could really land themselves. We want to talk about

934
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: difference makers. They can give themselves a better shot of

935
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: landing that type of talent for the long long term

936
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: from this draft. So that is something else that I

937
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: want to see them do, especially if they were to

938
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: get a pick in the top five. By the way,

939
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: here kind of the odds breaks down. The Braves have

940
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: a seven and a half percent chance basically of getting

941
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: the first pick. They have a twenty five percent chance

942
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: of landing in the top three, forty five percent chance

943
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: of landing in the top six, seventy five percent chance

944
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: of landing in the top eight, and they basically have

945
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent chance of landing in the top ten.

946
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: When I say their percentage chance, what I'm meaning is is,

947
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: out of one hundred percent, what are the odds that

948
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: they could potentially get each pick slot. That's how it

949
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: breaks down. So again, a seventy five percent chance to

950
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: land a top eight pick in a draft that is

951
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: supposed to be one of the deepest we've seen in

952
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: the top ten in terms of quality position player prospects.

953
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Be aggressive as possible to get the best talent that

954
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: you can.

955
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, And obviously, the way the draft is set up,

956
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 4: it's not only the fact that you get a higher

957
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 4: pick depending on where you land in the lottery, but

958
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: the higher the pick you get, the more bonus pull

959
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: money you get for each of your top ten picks.

960
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: I think it is so yeah, it's a massive deal.

961
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 4: And even in this last draft. You know the Braves

962
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: what you're talking about, how they usually go under slot

963
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 4: in the first round to they did that again in

964
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. You know, when they they drafted South

965
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: the Scene as their first pick. It was an underslought

966
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: deal so they could get I think Briggs, I think

967
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 4: his name was Briggs McKenzie, right, the guy at Belashue.

968
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: They had to they had to buy him out of

969
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 4: his commitment.

970
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they went They went overslot in the third and

971
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: fourth round because they went under slot in the first.

972
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. So yeah, they do that a lot. And I

973
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 4: agree with you as long as they don't end up

974
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: losing that pick to a qualified free agent. I would

975
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: love to see them in that. You know, if it's

976
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: like a top five pick or whatever, be aggressive, maybe

977
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: go ad slaughter or maybe even overslought and go get

978
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: like a high, high level guy that's clearly the top

979
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 4: guy in the system. It's kind of a I want

980
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 4: to see the Braves Farms system get back to where

981
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 4: it's like at least in the top half of the league.

982
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: I know it's been underrated, probably because guys like Drake

983
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 4: Baldwin and Schwallenbach came out of nowhere and weren't really

984
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: ranked where they should have been. And so I do

985
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: think the Brave's farm system is better than it's been

986
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 4: publicly rated, but I still think it's been, you know,

987
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 4: below average. I would say, I still think it's been

988
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 4: in the bottom half of the league instead of the

989
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 4: top half of the league the last few years. So

990
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 4: I do want to see that system get back to

991
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: where it's a weapon that you can use at all times.

992
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 4: But yeah, this twenty twenty sixth draft is going to

993
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: be one of the biggest Braves drafts we've seen in

994
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: a long time. So and obviously we'll learn on Tuesday

995
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 4: where they're picking in the first round.

996
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: But hey, that's kind of, you know, a silver lining.

997
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: You don't want to go through the struggles that the

998
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: Brave did is in the twenty five season to get

999
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: to this point, but now that we're past it, we

1000
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: can at least have some fun with it. It's just

1001
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: another added really exciting you know, aspect of this offseason

1002
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: for the future, and hopefully the Braiser will be able

1003
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: to take his full advantage of it as possible. You know,

1004
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: we typically don't mention split contract signings, minor league signings,

1005
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: these small kind of irrelevant signings that the Braves do,

1006
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: but do want to bring up a name that the

1007
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: Braves did add back into the system in Danny Young.

1008
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: Danny Young signed a split contract of Young will be

1009
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: I believe out until the middle of the season. I

1010
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: believe that he had Tommy John surgery early last year.

1011
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: This is his second stint with the Braves. He had

1012
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: a bit of a stint in twenty twenty three. Looked

1013
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: pretty good in the opportunities.

1014
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: That he had.

1015
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: But Steven, it's the intrigue of young stuff that if

1016
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: he comes back and proves to be healthy, it could

1017
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: be We've seen the Braves do this sign these injured

1018
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: pitchers because they're intrigued by their stuff. Danny Young could

1019
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: be a bit more notable of a signing than most

1020
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: because of his history with the Braves and also the

1021
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: fact that he has some pretty decent stuff when he's healthy.

1022
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, a big strikeout guy. I mean, you go, look

1023
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: he is. So he's with the Braves in twenty three.

1024
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: Kind of a cup of coffee. I think he was

1025
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: actually with the Braves at the end of twenty two

1026
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 4: in the beginning of twenty three, you know, a couple

1027
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 4: of coffee I think they had like ten innings pitched

1028
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: to twenty three, and then he spent the last couple

1029
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 4: of years with the Mets with Jeremy Hefner. By the way,

1030
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 4: who's the braves new pitching coach. And I'm sure that's

1031
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: not a coincidence. But tons of strikeouts. Guy strikes out

1032
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 4: a ton of people. It's like a fastball, sinker slider combo.

1033
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 4: Not the hardest throw in the world, but just gets

1034
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 4: a ton of swing and miss. It's obviously a very

1035
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: funky arm angle. It's a very uncomfortable bat. The Braves

1036
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 4: always are interested in these kind of really strong strikeout

1037
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 4: to walk ratio guys, which is what Young is. And

1038
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 4: he signed a split contract, and I'm not gonna get

1039
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 4: into all the mechanics of that, but typically spec split

1040
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 4: contract guys are on the forty man like Videl Bruhan

1041
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 4: just signed a split contract and he's still in the forties.

1042
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: So I'm pretty sure Denny Young gets a forty man spot.

1043
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 4: And then you get X amount of money if you're

1044
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 4: in the majors, and you get X amount of money

1045
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: if you're the miners. It allows teams to send guys

1046
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: to the miners who maybe don't have mining the options.

1047
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: Like Videl Bruhan when he signed that split contract, can

1048
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 4: now be sent to the miners even though he doesn't

1049
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: have mining the options. Danny Young is the same. Now

1050
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: with Young, it's not as big a deal because, like

1051
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: Sewn just said, he's gonna be he's gonna be out

1052
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: to like July, maybe August with he had Tom and

1053
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: John surgery in May, so this is a second half

1054
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 4: of the season, you know, might get some reinforcements type

1055
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 4: of deal. It's very little money. As soon as the

1056
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: sixty day il opens back up when we get to

1057
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: spring training, Danny Young will immediately go on that, which

1058
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 4: will clear his forty man spot. So's there's not a

1059
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 4: lot of risk here. There's not a lot you're paying for.

1060
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 4: They're just they're banking on some upside with the strikeout stuff.

1061
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: They know Danny Young. Obviously, Jeremy Hefner really knows Danny Young,

1062
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 4: and I'm sure that connection helped a lot. So yeah,

1063
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 4: I'm not a big signing. We saved to Diddy in

1064
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 4: the show, but he is gonna be on the forty

1065
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: man for a little bit. So it's a big enough

1066
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: signing where we need to mention it split contract. He'll

1067
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 4: be on the sixty il when the season starts, and

1068
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 4: maybe some second half reinforcements.

1069
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: So here we go.

1070
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: I know that the Danny Young level of signing may

1071
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: not really get you going in terms of excitement, but

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Speaker 1: this show was meant to get you going in terms

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Speaker 1: of excitement. The connection to Byron buckson the hot stove

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Speaker 1: heating up with some notable names. Some of the best

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Speaker 1: pictures are off the market. The most obvious pictures are

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Speaker 1: off the market now because of the stove is heating up.

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Speaker 1: The braves getting more indications of just how beneficial the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth draft could be. All of these things

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Speaker 1: we could see come to fruition or we could get

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Speaker 1: more insight on over the next ten to twelve days,

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Speaker 1: especially with the Winter Beatings being next week. So buckle up,

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Speaker 1: the riot is about to get a bit faster, but

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Speaker 1: a bit more exciting, and we're gonna have you fully

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Speaker 1: covered here on the Hammer Territory podcast. Steven Tolbort anything

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Speaker 1: else from you as we wrap up this edition of

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Speaker 1: The Hammer Territory podcast.

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Speaker 2: Nope.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Winter meetings start this weekend, start on Sunday there

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Speaker 4: from Sunday to Weinsday Thursday next week. So the Winter

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Speaker 4: Meetings are where stuff gets real, where stuff happens. You'll

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Speaker 4: see trade, you'll see signings. You know, most Winter meetings

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Speaker 4: have at least one big move in them. This is

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Speaker 4: not like the GM meetings, which is like a precursor

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Speaker 4: the GM meeting or the Winter Meetings or worse, stuff

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Speaker 4: actually really starts to happen. Teams really want to start

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Speaker 4: focusing in on signings. Guys are already off the board.

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Speaker 4: You got all the gms there and they're all focused

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Speaker 4: on team building. There's nobody that's you know, doing other

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Speaker 4: stuff or talking with owners. Everybody is in the building.

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Speaker 4: I think it's in Orlando this year. Everybody's in the

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Speaker 4: building and they're focused on team building, and so you

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Speaker 4: can get a lot of stuff done in a short

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Speaker 4: amount of time. I say all that to say, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna have it cover whatever happens at the Winter Meetings,

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Speaker 4: anything Braves related, we will have it covered on here

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Speaker 4: the moment it happens. So if you're not subscribed, make

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Speaker 4: sure you are. The off season is heating up in

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Speaker 4: every way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when we talk when people talk about

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Speaker 1: how excited the first few days of Hitfel free agent

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Speaker 1: is or NBA free agency, this is Baseball's version of that.

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Speaker 1: So we get a buckle up. It hopefully is going

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Speaker 1: to start to get real exciting. But hey, always a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to do these with you, Steven. You can find

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Speaker 1: Stephen Tobert at b Underscore Outliers, myself at the Stats

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Speaker 1: Sac on Twitter, slash x. You can find Hammer Territory

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Speaker 1: across all fourms and social media, part of the Foul

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Speaker 1: Territory family of podcasts. Brad Scott me Stephen. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: be seeing a lot of us over the next week

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Speaker 1: or so breaking down all the latest rumors, signings, moves

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Speaker 1: potentially what can occur. Hopefully there will need plenty of

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Speaker 1: them as the Braves look to get back to contention

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Speaker 1: next year and beyond. Until next time, Go Braves. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you again soon here on the Hammer Territory

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Speaker 1: podcast