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Speaker 1: Are we live? Are these on?

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Speaker 2: Noel Miller? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Man? Good? How are you sorry? I jumped the gun?

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Speaker 2: I've Yeah, where's that expression come from? Jump the gun?

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Speaker 1: I think that's like a like a eighteen fifties reference. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that's something they said, probably in

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Speaker 1: like The Oregon Trail.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you ever play that game The Oregon Trail?

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Speaker 1: I did in the computer lab though, Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: never had it at home, so I don't have like

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It definitely is, you know, rings a bell for

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Speaker 2: a lot of people in the childhood experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you did you play? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I played it at school in a computer class.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, damn, I'm just thinking about computer class. No.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's been the most persistent thought on your mind lately?

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Speaker 1: Most persistent thought?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna sound sad man, but no, please go karts?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is that is that? Is that really been the most

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Speaker 2: recent thought? Go karts?

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Speaker 1: It's just I love doing it. It's such a I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's such a simple hobby, but it's just

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Speaker 1: so much fun. I get a lot of enjoyment out

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Speaker 2: How recently did you start doing go karts.

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Speaker 1: About a year and a half ago, and I can't

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Speaker 2: When you are on the go kart track, do all

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Speaker 1: And you're very in the moment they do. That's why

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Speaker 1: I love it. Keeps me, keeps me grounded.

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Speaker 2: What kinds of things are you escaping from when you're

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Speaker 1: I would say I experienced a great amount of stress,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you do you like being stressed?

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Speaker 1: No? No, stress is horrible, man? Are you?

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Speaker 2: But you you seem to me like, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: anyone who you know achieves any you know, modicum of

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Speaker 2: Do you identify with that?

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Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, I definitely enjoy the problem solving

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Speaker 1: have mixed feelings. You know, I appreciate where I'm at,

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Speaker 2: What do you think your life would look like if

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Speaker 2: it had less stress? Like, what would make you less stressed?

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Speaker 1: M probably being online less. I think I'm terminally online.

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Speaker 1: I think I get stressed out from that too. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you like constantly checking the Instagram, Twitter, Facebook?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever tried to do one of those like detoxes,

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Speaker 1: I haven't because I'm just terminally online, but I think

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Speaker 2: You know what the fucking problem is and I get

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Speaker 2: it so you can't go cold turkey. Yeah, and like

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Speaker 2: the the I know personally, like of my Internet usage,

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Speaker 2: But that little one percent is what reals in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to you know something, allow you to what's the word not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I agree. I think I tell myself, if

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Speaker 2: Is it worth it?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I think for the other time,

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Speaker 2: Know, outside of like your personal relationship with the Internet.

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Speaker 2: Are you one of those guys? I feel like there's

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Speaker 2: of good things. Where on that spectrum would you say

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Speaker 1: About it is killing us all? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: The Internet is a is a poison. It's bad for us.

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Speaker 1: We'd be so much happier without it.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any other vices?

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Speaker 1: Vices? Just a little bit of crack, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of cracked?

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Speaker 2: No, you're done crack?

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Speaker 2: I have a friend who has done it, though.

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Speaker 1: What did he say about it?

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Speaker 2: He said it was awesome, That's what I've heard. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure it's amaz. They wouldn't. People would get adicted to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels bad. Yeah, yeah, no, I've heard it's great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you and a friend hang out with a

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Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, or I was thinking something more damning,

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Speaker 2: You would go down with him. You'd be on this is.

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Speaker 2: So so uh no, like, do you drink? Do you

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I recently took mushrooms one time.

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Speaker 2: How was that?

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Speaker 1: It was great? Yeah? Now that you know, I've I

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Speaker 2: Okay, but yeah, did you learn anything? I learned that

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Speaker 2: I like mushrooms? Okay, Yeah, that's about.

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Speaker 2: Well, and this was the first time you did it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you didn't you like? You know, why why do

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Speaker 1: You know? Man, I grew up in a very like

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Speaker 1: So I had like this deep commitment to myself to

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Speaker 1: I can do some shrooms fucking go crazy. Maybe even

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Speaker 2: You know people that take these mushroom trips and like

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Speaker 2: it changes your life for the better. Yeah, could that

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Speaker 1: I mean it might. It might motivate some beautiful art,

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot has come from crack. What Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm impressed that that you are. You're telling me you

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Speaker 2: do to just like No, I guess it's go karting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Though is I've always thought maybe I need a little

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Speaker 1: because I locked myself mentally into like it's almost like

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Speaker 2: Have you always been like that.

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Speaker 1: At a point? Yeah? I think there was a point

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Speaker 1: and just do. It's difficult.

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Speaker 2: Has anything ever made you just crumble?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Definitely? Yeah, uh trying to think. Oh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: like bad at stand up. Oh. Sometimes I'll get on

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Speaker 1: Let's go Mmmm.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Maddie. What's good?

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Speaker 3: Maddie?

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Speaker 2: You are on the phone with two geckos. I'm here

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Speaker 7: I wanted to call in because my boyfriend is moving

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Speaker 2: M Have you ever been in a long distance relationship?

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Speaker 1: No, but I know some people who have.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's worked for them? Or do they all fail?

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Speaker 1: Cheating? The cheating?

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: I know one person has been in a long distance

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I feel like we kind of do

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now I got a couple questions. One, how old

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Speaker 1: What big college is he going to?

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Speaker 7: He's twenty and he's going to University of Texas in Austin.

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Speaker 1: Man Austin is already a weird place and they party

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Speaker 7: I'm in San Antonio, which is not like different state

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Speaker 2: How long have you guys been together for?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question.

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Speaker 7: Almost two years?

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Speaker 7: No, we met right after I guess we both graduated.

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Speaker 7: He's been mathematics major.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're fine, Yeah, you're fine, You're you're okay.

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Speaker 2: That's the pro of dating mathematics major. Yeah, does he

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Speaker 1: That's a great track.

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Speaker 3: I know he's cute.

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Speaker 2: See that's oh, that's see, that's oh he's one of

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Speaker 7: Guys, Yeah, he.

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Speaker 1: Is, Maddie, Maddie. Now you're you're his girlfriend, so you know,

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Speaker 7: I think, you know what, when I introduced him to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I think if he was ugly,

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Speaker 2: I can I ask you, you know, like a real question,

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Speaker 2: You know, after two years? What is continuing you wanting

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I think he's the first guy that I ever

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Speaker 7: I work at a department store in San.

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Speaker 1: Antonio, Maddie. There's not a damn thing left for you

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Speaker 8: I know.

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Speaker 7: I'm finishing school too in San Antonio, so I'll probably

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I think this is gonna be one of

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Speaker 1: I think you just got to ride this wave of

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Speaker 2: Right right, these are situations in which they allow the

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Speaker 2: you'll you'll discover more about who you are, discover more

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Speaker 2: after two years. It's like, all right, you know you

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Speaker 1: He's a math major, so you know he's asked love's tests. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's like, give me this the test life. I want this.

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Speaker 2: But Matt, I think, Matt, if if if both of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you know what? Just be just be like,

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Speaker 1: I love you, you know, like he that that might

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Speaker 2: And every time he's at you know, one of these

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Speaker 2: crazy mathematic majors parties and you know some girl has

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00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 2: given him the eyes, he's gonna he's gonna be thinking

445
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 2: about that flashlight. Yeah, and he's gonna say Okay, nice

446
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: to meet and walk away go upstairs.

447
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 1: Ye.

448
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 2: So, uh, Matt, is there anything else you want to

449
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 2: say with people of the computer before we go?

450
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 7: I feel like my boyfriend's probably watching some work right now.

451
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 7: Could Noel say hi, Nott, No.

452
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding, Matt, listen, let me tell you this, Matt,

453
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: don't go to U T and be mister Clark Kent. Okay,

454
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, with her, you're the reporter. But then when

455
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: you're out there on sixth Street, that's when you're in

456
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: your fucking superhero suit, you know, being crazy doing whatever.

457
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: So Matt, I say to you, be loyal, and.

458
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll second that.

459
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: I'll second that.

460
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for calling, Mattie.

461
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: Thank you.

462
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 7: Guys.

463
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: You're welcome.

464
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you in a relationship at all?

465
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: I am man?

466
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: How long you've been in a relationship.

467
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: For a long time?

468
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: How long?

469
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: Like over ten years? Now?

470
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: Over ten years?

471
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: We've been through it all?

472
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: Man? Holy shit? Yeah, okay, so I mean throughout those

473
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: ten years, has there ever been this like a period

474
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: of time where you had to spend a long amount

475
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: of time away from each other?

476
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I mean she she like halfway through

477
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: our relationship, she took on like really time consuming jobs.

478
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: I can't say where she worked, sure, but yeah, she'd

479
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: work like sixty seventy hour weeks, so you know, months

480
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: at a time. So there was definitely we had to

481
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: figure that out. It was as definitely a test.

482
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what kinds of things did you do? During that

483
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: time where you know that was difficult, that that kind

484
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: of helped.

485
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: I think I just that's when I just took advantage.

486
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: I would just be going to do stand up and yeah,

487
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: that's when Cody and I started doing a lot of

488
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: work and yeah, just just trying to build my career.

489
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: You know.

490
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: She was doing her thing, and I said, all right,

491
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: I think now it's time for me to do my thing.

492
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: So it's hard, I feel like to you know, talk

493
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: through you know, people with relationship issues, because I mean,

494
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, like if I'm twenty and I'm but justin

495
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like in a new place and a new thing,

496
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: like you know, I would feel like that's a great

497
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: time like explore yourself and you know, worry about being

498
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: in a relationship. But yeah, I don't know. But then

499
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: you meet people who are like, I've been with my

500
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: whatever for you know, since we were in high school

501
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: and happy as hell and my life is great. Yeah,

502
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: so you know, I don't know what the hell I'm

503
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: talking about in that department, But.

504
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: No, I think it. I think it really just depends.

505
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean I feel, you know, based on the way

506
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: Maddie speaks about Matt. First of all, their names are

507
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: very close to each other.

508
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And that's a good sign.

509
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: That's a great sign.

510
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

511
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think the way she speaks of him,

512
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: I want to believe that they have something special. Mm hmm.

513
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: That's what I want to believe. So, you know, I

514
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: hope they I hope he doesn't get lured in by

515
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: the by the you know, by some weird circumstance in

516
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: the middle of Austin. Yeah. I hope he stays true.

517
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: If she makes that flashlight for him, I think it's

518
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: you know, to do. Is that a thing you can

519
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: can you do that? Can you make custom I'm sure?

520
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: Can you make like custom molds of your penis or

521
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: your vagina?

522
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: I know custom build is very common, Yeah, vagina. I

523
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: feel like that'd be tough to make it.

524
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: Really. How did they make the penis ones? Do they

525
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: like they have to like put some clay around your.

526
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can like junk. They just send you like

527
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: a tube and you just fun too, Yeah, you fuck

528
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: it and then they you send it back. But that

529
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: that shit is crazy to me because then they're just

530
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: going to three D print your ship and but you

531
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: give them like a mold of your.

532
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: And then you know they're keeping that on file's exactly.

533
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you know someone working there isn't like

534
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: I like.

535
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: This, I'm gonna use this model.

536
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: I want to I want to know some more.

537
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind that if I if I like if

538
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: I you know, was signed to the agreement to give

539
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: away a mold of my penis and like some whoever

540
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: that works at the company wants to, I don't care.

541
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: You know, that's fair. I feel like, you know, it

542
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: is pretty flattering if someone someone prints your penis for themselves,

543
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: You're like, damn, shout out to you.

544
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just you know, I'm just happy to you know,

545
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: help people. Yeah, in this universe. Yeah, uh okay, there

546
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: was one. There was a call here that I have

547
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: no idea how this is going to go. This might

548
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: be something where we take it and we're immediately like, let's.

549
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: Let's go.

550
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm too curious to not take this call.

551
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 5: Hello, it's just a gek.

552
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Gary.

553
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 5: This is Gary.

554
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: What's going on with you?

555
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: Gary?

556
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: I'm here with Noel. We're Gecko's.

557
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 5: Man. I am so excited to be talking to you

558
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 5: two fellas. Let me tell you something.

559
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: Well, well, listen, Gary, it says here that you have

560
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: a pending domestic terrorism lawsuit against yourself and your cousin.

561
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 5: This is very true. So it's actually myself, my cousin,

562
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 5: and his girlfriend. Although I am the main subject of

563
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 5: person of interest here, I should say I let me

564
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 5: give give a little bit of a backstory before we

565
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 5: get before we get too deep into this.

566
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would the mask.

567
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

568
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say the Messic Terriors group. So all right,

569
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 5: So this was a couple of years ago and we, uh,

570
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 5: you know, we're chilling at his house, and we decided

571
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 5: that we wanted to go smoke the Devil's lettuce. Now

572
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 5: in my cousin's neighborhood, he has this neighborhood beach that

573
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 5: was kind of the spot that everyone went, okay, So

574
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 5: we decided we were going to walk down there. It

575
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 5: was probably four or five in the afternoon, and I

576
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 5: had a low grade explosives on my person. Now, when

577
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 5: I say a low grade explosive, I'm talking like a

578
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: soda can filled with tinfoil where you pour the toilet

579
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 5: cleaner in and it blows up. So, you know, I'm

580
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 5: walking down the street and my cousin and It's like,

581
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 5: I dare you to throw that under someone's car, and

582
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, let's do it. And so I

583
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 5: did it.

584
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: And between real quick quick between you saying okay, let's

585
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: do it and your cousin asking you to do it,

586
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: did you have any thoughts?

587
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: Was?

588
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: Did any part of you mauld the situation over? Was

589
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: it a fairly instant decision?

590
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely? No part of my being mould that thought over

591
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 5: for a split second.

592
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: Now, Gary, can I just ask you just a question?

593
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

594
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: No.

595
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: Well are you white?

596
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 5: I am as white as they come?

597
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: All right? Yeah? No, go ahead continue continue, Yeah, yeah, no,

598
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: you're fine, You're good.

599
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: So what happened after you agreed to throw this soda

600
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: can under a car?

601
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: So, in lieu of, you know, the adrenaline of the situation,

602
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 5: we neglected to see that the two homeowners were actually

603
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 5: sitting on their front porch when I threw this said

604
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 5: soda camp or soda bottle under their car.

605
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is a part Wait wait, so this

606
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: is a parked car in.

607
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: A driveway, Yeah, in my cousin's neighborhood.

608
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Okay. And when the owners saw that you were throwing

609
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: this low grade explosive under the car? How did they react?

610
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 5: So I actually didn't see them until it had gone off,

611
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 5: because I was, you know, standing there waiting for the bang,

612
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 5: and it happened, and I was, you know, giddy with excitement,

613
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 5: and I turned to my right and they are starting

614
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 5: to stream at scream at all three of us, very

615
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 5: very intensely.

616
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: Okay, did the did the soda can do anything to

617
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: the car?

618
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: So that's actually an unknown. I don't believe it did.

619
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: Gary. I just have to say, you have the most

620
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: like your voice sounds like you'd be a member of

621
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: a yacht club. But what you're describing are like a

622
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: unibomber activities. So I'm just I'm trying to picture you.

623
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, You're just you're you're a bit of a

624
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: bit of a wolf in sheep's clothing right now.

625
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: Can you actually, just like super brief, describe what you

626
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: look like.

627
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 5: I am probably the most average looking white male that

628
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 5: has ever called into the show, to be completely honest

629
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 5: with you. Brown hair, brown eyes, five ten, average build,

630
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: So I'm basically describing Noel Miller to.

631
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: A t uh. I wouldn't say that.

632
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Gary, tell us more about how you

633
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: got eventually, when did this turn into a domestic terrorism lawsuit?

634
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: From your sitting in front of the the this person's house.

635
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: Right. So, after this happened, after the bang and the

636
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: screaming ensued, we just we ran. We ran for our

637
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 5: lives down to the smoke spot. And we're at the

638
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: spot for i'd say about an hour and a half,

639
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 5: just hanging out. And to be completely honest with you,

640
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 5: it didn't really cross my mind as to what happened,

641
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: you know, because at this point we had smoked quite

642
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 5: a bit, and it just it was never a thought

643
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 5: that was reminiscent in my head. So we decided to

644
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 5: head back up to the house. And as we're walking back,

645
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 5: and this is where it got. This is where we

646
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 5: made some horrible decisions. We took the same exact route

647
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 5: that we threw the bott sorry I threw the bottle.

648
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 5: We took that route back home. So as we're walking up.

649
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: It's very nice of you, by the way, to Clare

650
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: to like single yourself out just in case the courts

651
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: use this stream for evidence.

652
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, continue.

653
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: Thank you. I have to, I have to make it known.

654
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 5: So we're walking back and there is now three County

655
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: police cars outside of the home.

656
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: M hm.

657
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 5: And still still it's not registering with any any three

658
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 5: of us that this may in fact be because of

659
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 5: the bottle that I threw. And you know, so we're

660
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 5: we're still walking on our merry way and just not

661
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: paying any mind to it. So we get up towards

662
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 5: the vehicles and I'd say, what four or five police

663
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 5: officers h get out of their vehicles and run up

664
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 5: to us with their weapons drawn. And at this point

665
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 5: is pretty much where I shit myself.

666
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, how stoned are you? By the way, when the

667
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: guy's appointing.

668
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: Us at you.

669
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Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, man, I gotta tell you, this

670
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 5: was probably one of the most stone I had ever been.

671
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 5: When I say, we were down at that smoke spot

672
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: for an hour and a half. We were smoking for

673
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: that hour and a half straight. I was, I was,

674
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 5: I was blazed. There's no doubt about that.

675
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, So they take you, they take you

676
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: into custody, I assume, right.

677
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 5: So, no, that's the thing. They did not take me

678
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: into any of us into custody right away. So they

679
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: approached us and at this point, we're we're looking like

680
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 5: the neighborhood bums. We are all three wearing pajama pants

681
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 5: and like some random T shirt, you know, walking about,

682
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 5: and so they say, you guys fit the description of

683
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: three people who have just come through here and we

684
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: received a call regarding an explosive going off under a

685
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 5: homeowner's vehicle. And what's what's your first instinct? That's you know, deny, deny, deny,

686
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: it never happened. That wasn't us. But the police officer

687
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 5: then proceeds to describe us to a t down to

688
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 5: the hair color and the exact prints on our shirts.

689
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: So after trying to lie for about two minutes, you know,

690
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 5: we we fessed up probably the quickest interrogation known to man.

691
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 5: Now still at this point we had yet to be

692
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 5: taken into custody, and so the.

693
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: Now any questions up until this play anything unsolved boggling

694
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: in your mind about any of this?

695
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: No, I mean, Gary, I just I assume your dad

696
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: makes more than like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.

697
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: That would be my guess.

698
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: What's what's the uh? You would be what's the answer

699
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: to that?

700
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 5: So you are actually absolutely wrong in that sense. My

701
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 5: dad is unemployed, he was a uh, he is a.

702
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 5: I don't even I don't want to say retired because

703
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 5: he got fired. He was he was the manager of

704
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 5: a porta potty company.

705
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, waste management makes money, man, I don't hate

706
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: on that. This is what I'm saying, is so confusing

707
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: about you. Man. You speak and behave like someone with

708
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: a trust fund, but then you're doing toothless activities.

709
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 5: Okay, so maybe this, maybe this can put it into perspective.

710
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 5: Here my occupation, I'm a commercial electrician.

711
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, all right, now I'm saying it the

712
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: blue collar grit. I'm saying that.

713
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

714
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: So so so it was any part of your I mean,

715
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: this was this three years ago. You said, were you

716
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: minor when this happened?

717
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: Yes?

718
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: I was, okay, and this is still like weighing down

719
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: upon you. Were you tried as a domestic terrorist?

720
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 5: No, I never was. That's the thing, because they actually

721
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 5: said that it was a it was a smoke bomb.

722
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 5: The homeowner said that it was a smoke bomb to

723
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 5: the police officers.

724
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: Ah okay, so that's cool.

725
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 5: So that's the thing. The police officer actually had me

726
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 5: talk to the homeowner, you know, in my very intoxicated state,

727
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 5: and I had to explain what my reasoning was for

728
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: throwing this smoke bomb under their vehicle?

729
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: Gary, I at a respect for your future existence. Let

730
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: me just stop you right here, mm hmm, and just say, listen,

731
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: you got away with this one, and just you know,

732
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: continue to live your life, not fucking around with smoke

733
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: bombs anymore, you know, do.

734
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: You like like to to? But but you know to

735
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: that point, Gary, now that you've told us this, you

736
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: got away with it. You're living your life now, you're

737
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: a commercial electrician. Things I can hear in your voice,

738
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: things are okay for you. Did you learn anything from

739
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: this experience that you can take away?

740
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: I absolutely did, and that was to not mess around

741
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 5: with smoke bombs.

742
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: That is a great it's a great lesson lesson.

743
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: It's a great lesson.

744
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: Learn was was I wanted those? Really? Before we go?

745
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: Your cousin, your cousin and your cousin's what is it friend?

746
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: There's three of you, right, the two the two other

747
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: people did they get did they get fucked that all

748
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: by any of this stuff? Or are they doing okay too?

749
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 6: Oh?

750
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: No, they no, no repercussion. And actually my cousin is

751
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 5: currently a commercial electrician with me.

752
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: Got it.

753
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: It's the smoke bomb to commercial Electrician pipeline.

754
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good one.

755
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Gary, thank you for sharing that with us.

756
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a fable, right, what is

757
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: it a parable? What's the it's the word for a

758
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: story where there's an inherent lesson to it.

759
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's.

760
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm talking about, but Gary's anything

761
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: else I want to say to me or Noela or

762
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go.

763
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 5: I just wanted to say, I love you guys, and

764
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 5: Ghek forever.

765
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Gary.

766
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: Thanks, Gary, have a good one, GAK forever.

767
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: You know that he has such a just an upper

768
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: class fright freanck guy voice. It was so did you

769
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: hear it? Like a little bit?

770
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: Let me to that after hearing him say that he

771
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: learned something, do you really think he learned something? What

772
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: do you think he really learned? Because he said he

773
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: didn't learn but like more deeper than that, what do

774
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: you think he learned?

775
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: I think he learned. I think the real words that

776
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: came to his mind when he blew that car up

777
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: and he sort of got away with it was oh shit,

778
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: I definitely need to not fuck around as much. I

779
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: think that's what.

780
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's that is legitimately learning something, and he that, Yeah,

781
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: he definitely kind of had it go off in his

782
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: mind exactly like that.

783
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: And not to make it about this, but I just

784
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: felt like it was a very very white gy thing

785
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: to call into a public show.

786
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: He did say the case was pending. I want to

787
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: to get more into where it stood now, but.

788
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: I for sure thought he, you know, was like a

789
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: like a privileged kid. That's what that's just that behavior

790
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: just to call in and just like I committed a

791
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: crime once, you know. But he's an electrician. He comes

792
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: from that working class, so I feel like his dad

793
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: would be, you know, unibomber enough to be like, Gary,

794
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: don't ever do that again. Don't don't incriminate yourself, don't

795
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: talk about this ever again. Keep it to yourself. Take

796
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: it to the grave.

797
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, this is like it's a

798
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: quasi anonymous.

799
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. Yeah, we don't know.

800
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 2: I mean, how many other people are making h bombs

801
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: out of soda cans? I'm throwing them under old ladies' cars.

802
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: Hopefully not that many.

803
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: I hope, yeah, we hope.

804
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: It is funny to think that this like podcast would

805
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: be used as evidence. Yeah, in a fucking court us

806
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: in the courtroom people, a whole jury of people watching

807
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: him tell that story.

808
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: And then so one on the jury is like, is

809
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: that Lyle?

810
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, like they call us him to testify, show

811
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: up in.

812
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: Suits, Like the suits weren't necessarily Like what are you

813
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: talking about?

814
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: That's how I I need to get back into where

815
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: I was.

816
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: This is who we are. Man.

817
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: Just don't do you have you ever growing up? Did

818
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: you ever get into not pipe bomb level, but did

819
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: you ever get into trouble of any kind?

820
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 5: Yeah?

821
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: No, I mean you know, I definitely had tons of

822
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: friends who built like potato guns and stuff like that.

823
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: I think one of the funniest things that happened to

824
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: me and a kid and his brother used to mess

825
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: around a butane. Yeah yeah, and we kind of realized

826
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: that butane would had like a self sustaining burn, Like

827
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: obviously a fire can catch, but basically my boy at

828
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: the time he would spray buttane on the top of

829
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: his hoodie. Oh man, and then he lighted on fire

830
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: and then he just pretend like nothing was going on

831
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: with him.

832
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: That's kind of a funny bit though, Yeah, to show

833
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: up with the show with your head on fire and

834
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: be like, what's up, guys? What?

835
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking like like fucking hairy from home alone too,

836
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: just but you know, we would walk down this hill

837
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: that we lived near, and he would spray it on

838
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: his head and he just light it on fire, and I,

839
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: me and his brother would just watch it cackling, and

840
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: people would drive by and their necks would break, like

841
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: what is going on with this kid? Or annoyingly and

842
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: dangerously he would just spray it on us while we

843
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: were walking and then just light us on fire, and

844
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: we had no idea.

845
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: He let on fire without you're knowing, yeah.

846
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: Which is psychotic behavior, but he was convinced that nothing

847
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: bad could happen from it.

848
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: I was also a little bit into fire when I

849
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: when I discovered that you could take acts or not

850
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: even like any hair spray yeah, and a lighter yeah,

851
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: and it would make a flame thrower. Yeah, I was.

852
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: I was a little too into that. And I wouldn't

853
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: do it like a w because it would scare me.

854
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: Would do it for like a second well yeah, like

855
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 2: I was like discovering my own like powers.

856
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: Would you only ever do it like in the privacy

857
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: of your own.

858
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would do it. I wouldn't like go into

859
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: public and start terrorizing.

860
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking do you have kids like that in high

861
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: school that would do that? Ship?

862
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't. The people I was friends with in high school,

863
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. We were mischievous, but not in any sort

864
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: of violent way. Yeah, you know, but I did have

865
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: I had like a obsession with fire at some point,

866
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: like lighting fireworks, and I would keep a lighter to

867
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: the pocket.

868
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: Was like the biggest thing you lit on fire. You think,

869
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, you're just like, uh, just the pentagon.

870
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't have anything cool man, It's like sticks,

871
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: pieces of paper. Yeahs oh you know, my own, like

872
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: my own like I would I would like light my

873
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: hair on Oh yeah, like my hair hair, but like

874
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: my arm hair.

875
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah you ever do that? I had friends that would

876
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: do that then. Yeah, that thought that was like super funny,

877
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, like, dude, I couldn't relate. You know,

878
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: I had exema, so I was trying to keep as

879
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: much moisture on my skin as possible. So when I

880
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: watch kids do that, I'm like, you take that, You

881
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: take your skin for granted, Man, what.

882
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: Do you what do you think Utane your your butane

883
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: friend is doing now? Maybe you lost out with him. Uh?

884
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: Last I heard he's married. He's good. Yeah, I'm sure

885
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: he's solid.

886
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: Do you think when the kids are asleep and the

887
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: wife is asleep, he goes down into the basement and

888
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: lights ship on fire?

889
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't put it past him to do

890
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: it in front of the kid. He had a good

891
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: sense of humor.

892
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: You're ever gonna have kids?

893
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: I think about it, man, I'm just not sure. I'm

894
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of in a selfish point in my life where

895
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: I like, I like the freedom I have soah, you know,

896
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: but I think raising a kid is definitely it's cool.

897
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: Like I got a little nephew that, okay, I see

898
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: every once in a while. It's like a rental kid, Yeah, basically,

899
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: and that's always that's always a good time, you know,

900
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: even even if he's misbehaving, it's still kind of and

901
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: it's like endearing in a way. Granted I don't have

902
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: him twenty four to seven, so I'm sure I wouldn't

903
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: view it the same way.

904
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: I feel you on the Uh. I I don't know

905
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: if I would, you like, I don't know if it's

906
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: like a selfish thing. But I I think I think

907
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: by the way, I think I've asked every single guest

908
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: I've had on this podcast if they want to have kids.

909
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

910
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: What is it? I feel like you can do any

911
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: you can kind of do anything, and you can do

912
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: anything in life, come back from anything, except for having

913
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: children or getting arrested.

914
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

915
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 2: If those are the only two things I can think

916
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: of where like there's no turning back.

917
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ye're getting arrested.

918
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: Is like we're like some crazy physical injury m m.

919
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, kids are I mean, in a way you could

920
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: come back, you.

921
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Know, you you ditch the kid.

922
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: If not like that, but I mean if you turn

923
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: them into free agents, you know, put them up for adoption.

924
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could do that, because that's the thing is,

925
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: that's the only you could ditch the kid. But no, no,

926
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: that's not cool. It's not I was you know, I

927
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: wasn't bringing that up as like, no, no, you know legitimate.

928
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: I mean, but you could do it. Yeah, no, you

929
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: shouldn't ditch your child.

930
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: But in theory, you could put them out for free agency.

931
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 2: Hey, you want to take a call? Yeah?

932
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: Am I being too controversial? No?

933
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, this is uh. I think these

934
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 2: are important things to talk about with people because there's

935
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: you know, people who are listening to this that you know,

936
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they're things.

937
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: No, you know one of my one of my one

938
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: of my close friends, we do a lot of work.

939
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: He was adopted, and you know, he makes me think

940
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: about adopting.

941
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: Hello is this Jacob?

942
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: Can you hear me?

943
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

944
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: Can know what's going on with you?

945
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Man?

946
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: Nothing much. I am in the parking lot at the gym,

947
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 4: just finishing my workout.

948
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: Okay, we're finishing the workout in the parking lot big time.

949
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: No, I'm sitting in the parking lot hoping i'd get

950
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 4: to talk to you guys. So I just finished my workout.

951
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: Got it?

952
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: Was it a good workout?

953
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 8: You know what?

954
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: I took like a week and a half off. I

955
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: like hurt my lower back. So they won back of

956
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: the gym.

957
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: How'd you heard the how you heard the loan?

958
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: Just turned thirty and I dude, I feel like when

959
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 4: you turn thirty, your body's nose and it just will

960
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: bite back for like the littlest things. So I don't

961
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 4: even know what happened. I might have lifted something wrong

962
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 4: at work or at the gym, slept wrong, caught that down,

963
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: watched TV wrong. Yeah, literally, just king.

964
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: Well, Jacob, is there anything in particular you want to

965
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: talk about today?

966
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wanted to talk about I guess the

967
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: kink that I have. Maybe I'm a fetish twink SI right,

968
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 4: I am addicted to sleeping with married straight men, and

969
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: I want some opinions on it because I feel like

970
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: it's a bit controversial. I feel like sometimes I feel

971
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: bad about it, but other times I don't, especially not

972
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: in the moment. Of course, it's also a little bit

973
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 4: it can be seen as like homophobic. I guess you

974
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: could say I don't really sleep as other gay men.

975
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: I seem to prefer sleeping with men who identify as

976
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 4: straight men. Periods.

977
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: You you you say you you almost exclusively sleep with

978
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: men who identify a.

979
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 4: Straight almost exclusively. Yeah?

980
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: And is it?

981
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: Is it you almost exclusively identify with men who identify

982
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: straight or you almost exclusively sleep with married men who

983
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: identify a straight.

984
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: So open minded in that sense. But if they're married, man,

985
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 4: I don't really care if I find them attractive. It's

986
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 4: like an instant yes for me, you know.

987
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 2: So the mayor, the fact that they're married makes them

988
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: more attractive.

989
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 4: To you just fucking gets me.

990
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, why can can you explain why that is?

991
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

992
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: I have no clue. That's I'm trying to pick my

993
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 4: own brain right now because I couldn't tell you it.

994
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 4: Part of it.

995
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just picturing a married this guy

996
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: head the whole time talking to us Jacobs, just getting

997
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: ahead parking lot, and he's like, do you have to

998
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: take this call right now?

999
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: I've had It's gotten to the point where they've knuck

1000
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: me through their garages, into their guest bedrooms, whilestairs.

1001
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 2: No, okay, But when you're when you're doing that, are

1002
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: you not like, okay, when you're doing something like that

1003
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: in your mind, are you not lying? What the fuck

1004
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: is going to happen? If like, like you are entering,

1005
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: you're just you're not just entering into a physical location,

1006
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: You're entering into someone's whole ass life.

1007
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're behind enemy lines, man.

1008
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: What's going through your mind when you're in a situation.

1009
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: I yeah, certain situations like that. I'm not thinking with

1010
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: my head, you know, I'm thinking with my dick.

1011
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: So technically your head exciting for me.

1012
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: The other one.

1013
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's okay, okay, let me let me say this,

1014
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: let me say two days.

1015
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1016
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: Do you is it that that's a crazy thing because

1017
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: one if if their lady wakes up, you know, like

1018
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: that's just a wild situation to be in. Two is

1019
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: it that you do you enjoy the like sort of

1020
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: the power of it. Do you get a rise out

1021
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: of it knowing that, like you are somebody's secret?

1022
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1023
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 4: Maybe I my parents growing up, My father was a

1024
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 4: big cheater, and I never they understood why he did

1025
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: the things he did. So there's a part of me that, like,

1026
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, probably wants to find out the reasons

1027
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 4: why people do those things.

1028
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, did it hurt you that your dad would

1029
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: cheat on your mom?

1030
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I guess so, I mean as much as

1031
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 4: it or any kids these days, not so much, like

1032
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: not a big deal.

1033
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: But do do you keep in touch with Are your

1034
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: parents still together? And do you keep in touch with

1035
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: your dad?

1036
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: They're still together?

1037
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 8: Yes?

1038
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 4: Are they happy? Probably not.

1039
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 5: My dad.

1040
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: I have a better relationship with him now than I

1041
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 4: did growing up. Me and my daughter are call's cool.

1042
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: Does he still cheat?

1043
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: Probably couldn't tell you. They're fifty mid fifties. So I mean,

1044
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: I'm not sure, have.

1045
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: You always been this way or is this a recent thing?

1046
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: I forget, so.

1047
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: I would say it was more of a recent thing.

1048
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 4: So I am in a relationship, an open relationship, I'll

1049
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 4: say that. So my partner and I have been open

1050
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 4: for three four years. That's three years.

1051
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: And that's a crazy thing because I just real quick,

1052
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: I want to carry out. I want to caveat because

1053
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: there are probably some straight people in the chat that

1054
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: are thinking, like, man, what the fuck? And it should

1055
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: be said that at least the gay man, I know,

1056
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: the ability to compartmentalize is crazy. They can just like

1057
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, the gay dudes, they just oh yeah, I'm

1058
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: just go mack. This guy in the club means nothing

1059
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: to me. It's savage. Anyways, continue, I'm sorry.

1060
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: No, that's a great point. I feel like open relationships

1061
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 4: in the gay world are pretty common because men just

1062
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: have like this. I mean, I don't want to.

1063
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: No, I think you're hitting on something that's no. No.

1064
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a tough and dangerous facet of the

1065
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: traditional or like traditional male psychology is. I think we

1066
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: have a dangerous ability to shut off our feelings and

1067
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: and so I'm just wondering if there's an element of

1068
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: that here that's enabling you to continue doing these things,

1069
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: because maybe there's something deeper that you're not acknowledging, but

1070
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: you're kind of dealing with it in this way.

1071
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 2: Hmmm, does that can can you think of anything that

1072
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: that that that might be? Jacob, Oh, I don't know.

1073
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 4: I didn't really grow up mid twenties.

1074
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 8: Uh.

1075
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: I didn't really explore my sexuality the way that I'm

1076
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 4: doing now. This goes from my partner. We kind of

1077
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 4: grew up with the gay stigma. I guess you can

1078
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: say the STDs. I mean I have had a fair

1079
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 4: share of STDs, so I mean that is common. But

1080
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 4: like HIV scare and just being the person that our

1081
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: parents were afraid of, it's so our early twenties.

1082
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: So Jacob, you know, what are you? What are you

1083
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: wrestling with here? Are you? Are you wrestling with the

1084
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: morality of you sleeping with married men? Are you wrestling

1085
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: with why you have this impulse? Like what if you

1086
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: have to say that? What is the crux of your

1087
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 2: issue with everything going on with you?

1088
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 4: It's definitely a morality thing, because afterwards, I do kind

1089
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 4: of feel like shit. And I do think about their

1090
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 4: kids that are probably sleeping upstairs, or you know, their

1091
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 4: partners that are oblivious to the whole situation, and I

1092
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: just feel like shit, you know, but in the moment,

1093
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 4: and it's always in the moment that I just I

1094
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck, you know, It's.

1095
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: Just Jacob, do you feel at any point in your

1096
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say daily life, but do you

1097
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: ever have moments where you still struggle to accept your

1098
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: own sexual identity and preference and things of that nature.

1099
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I'm a I think I'm

1100
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 4: a proud team man, and I I love the gay culture.

1101
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 4: I love everything about it.

1102
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: But that's good.

1103
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really I don't know. I just sexually,

1104
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 4: when it comes to like getting off, I don't really

1105
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: have that connection with other gay men. And I asked

1106
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: myself if it's because I don't want any kind of

1107
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: ties to be held with these men because I am

1108
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 4: in a relations happy relationship, So I I kind of

1109
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if that plays a factor in it

1110
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 4: as well.

1111
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: Let me throw this one on you. Have you been

1112
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: to a real therapist and talk to them about why

1113
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: you have the compulsions.

1114
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 4: I have not. I have not. I've never really expressed

1115
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 4: myself like this, even to my partner.

1116
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's another question. Have you does your partner?

1117
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: Now? Hey, first, I want to say, Jacob, we appreciate

1118
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: you taking this leap because it's a very public way

1119
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: to address these deeper thoughts you have. And so no,

1120
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not. I'm not even sarcastic. Now, you're

1121
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: fine you're feeling because I, as a person, i'd rather

1122
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: you get this out in it's sort of a comedic

1123
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek way, and if this opens the door

1124
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: for you to have deeper discussions. Here's here's the thing,

1125
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: bro this you know, I feel like listening to you,

1126
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: you really feel conflicted about this. So I think you're

1127
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: you're taking the right steps, and I think it's it'd

1128
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: be good for you. I think what I was about

1129
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: to say, sorry, I mean because I think it'd be

1130
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: great for you to, you know, uh, consider a licensed

1131
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: therapist and and dig into this because if you feel

1132
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: some kind of way like you're acting out of your

1133
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 1: own I don't know what the person you envision yourself being.

1134
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: I think you're you're you're totally right to look after

1135
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: yourself and go, hey, you know what, I'm doing something

1136
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: that I don't know if I'm too proud of this anymore.

1137
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: And it's a good thing to work out, man.

1138
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jacob. Is there anything else you want to

1139
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: say to the people of the computer before we go,

1140
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: or to me or Noel or anything else? Do you

1141
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: want to say about the situation that you feel like

1142
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: we didn't get to or anything like that?

1143
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 4: Oh, I think we covered all the bases. That was

1144
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 4: the fast one.

1145
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: Huh.

1146
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 4: Big fans of both of y'all tell you, Noel, my

1147
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 4: partner has a huge crush on you, damn. So it's

1148
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 4: kind of like a full circle moment in a lot

1149
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: of ways.

1150
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: Well, look, Jacob, everybody out there, just what's up?

1151
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1152
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: I know again, we appreciate you, tell your partner said,

1153
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate the love. I appreciate the love for you too, Bro,

1154
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: Me and law want to see you succeed, man, So sir,

1155
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: so come away from this conversation, uh thinking about that

1156
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: next step and uh, you know, ultimately we want to

1157
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: see you happy. Man. So dude, you gotta do to

1158
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: to to find that, you know.

1159
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing. Thank care man, you get some protein,

1160
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, with that call, I have dode, I have

1161
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: these thoughts and that, and I get I get calls

1162
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: like that a lot, where like I think, you know,

1163
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: I think maybe it is the possibility that people listening

1164
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: or anything like that, like wanted a response that's like

1165
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, more like ragging on like what you do,

1166
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: what you're like, what you're doing is fucked up and

1167
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: like all that stuff. And I wonder because I think

1168
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: my ultimate like thing with these calls is like I'm thinking, one,

1169
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't like to present myself as any kind of

1170
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: moral authority true of any kind, because like, you know whatever.

1171
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: But also it's like, if if the goal is to

1172
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: talk through this thing with this guy, like and the

1173
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: goal is to help this guy, what what is the

1174
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: best way to go about it? And you know, genuinely

1175
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: like wrestling with this in my brain is like, is

1176
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: is it productive to be like what you're doing is

1177
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: fucked up, you know you're morally wrong, or is it

1178
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: better to go through it with him in an objective

1179
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: way kind of like what we did.

1180
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: No, I think I think you're totally I mean, you're

1181
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: totally right to reflect on it. But I think it's

1182
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: creating that space for people to talk. I think it's

1183
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: I think when you rag on people, that's when they

1184
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: keep their cards close. Totally, totally that that motivate.

1185
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1186
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: The biggest thing I heard from the guy is he's

1187
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: turning off his feelings. You know, he's like, oh in

1188
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: the moment and I think about it, which you could say,

1189
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, is because you're horny, fair sure, But if

1190
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: he is getting his nut off, and then the second

1191
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: that happens, he's got that guilt that horrific, that same

1192
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: feeling when you masturbate to like some just porn like

1193
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: that you are not proud of. You're like, man, what

1194
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: am I doing? Yeah?

1195
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that must be some like the the

1196
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: amount of horniness that he is feeling to get himself

1197
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: into a suburban house with the wife and the kids

1198
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: must be uh, you know, just some astronomical animalistic amount.

1199
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: Oh, bro, I mean that that's a.

1200
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: That's a terrifying situation to place yourself.

1201
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: In, bro, to to keep it up in a suburban

1202
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: home with a with a family upstairs, that is that

1203
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: is cataclysmic levels of horning. You know, Like that's a

1204
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: great word for that, just absurd power going through his body,

1205
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: like my family's upstairs, and he's like, I don't care.

1206
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's probably part of it. Yeah,

1207
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: it's probably part of the adrenaline that you know, the

1208
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: adrenaline from that is like going through a machine in

1209
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: his body and transmuting to make his penis you know,

1210
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: stronger and whatnot.

1211
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean, I asked him how he

1212
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: felt about his own identity because I think it'd be

1213
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: a sad thing if he was maybe doing that, because

1214
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: maybe he feels some kind of shame but doesn't sound

1215
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: that way. So I think it's deeper. Is above our

1216
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 1: pay grade for sure.

1217
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: Definitely, I'm glad. I'm glad that you know, he's see

1218
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad at least that he seemed like he he

1219
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: wants to guide himself towards better.

1220
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: Married men's.

1221
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: Away from married men's whatever and into uh, you know,

1222
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: better better for him. So that's also why I don't

1223
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: you know, we were talking about like whether should we

1224
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: rag on people. I never like, you know, anyone who's like,

1225
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: you know, he he wants to change, He wants to change,

1226
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: calling in to talk about how he wants to change,

1227
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: and I can respond, you know, why would I do that.

1228
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm a little sad because I'm not sad, but I

1229
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of wish we interviewed him a little bit, like

1230
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: you know what type of suburban dad has the best bussy?

1231
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: You know?

1232
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1233
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: Who?

1234
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: Like, like who of these suburban dads? Like is actually

1235
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 1: really a really convincing gay guy in the bed?

1236
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: And then like, yeah, like is there is does he

1237
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: witness a very sharp change from like who he observes

1238
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: these guys as when they are, you know, in public,

1239
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 2: and who they are you know, when they're with him. Yeah,

1240
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of interesting to talk about.

1241
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, is he just piping down like little league baseball

1242
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: coaches and they're you know, they're all rooted out and

1243
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: crazy or actually baseball Lit League Baseball coaches when we

1244
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: rited out. But you know, these guys are used to

1245
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: talking shit. You know. They bring them in there and

1246
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: they say, you know, make me you're a little make

1247
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: me you're a little whatever you want me to be. Yeah,

1248
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: have your way with me, And Jacob goes, Okay.

1249
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: Well, I hope that Jacob can find can get his kicks.

1250
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like what else, that's not what

1251
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: what that is not sleeping with straight married men could

1252
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: give Jacob a similar sense of adrenaline. And I was like,

1253
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: there's nothing. And then Jacob, but you should try go karting.

1254
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I was gonna say a little crack,

1255
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: but I can go karting.

1256
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that you remember? Okay to sort of sort

1257
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: of do a loop here. Yeah, you know how in

1258
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: the very beginning of this we were like, is there

1259
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: you know people, is there a version of a crack

1260
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: experience that changes someone's life for the better? Ye? This

1261
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: could be that maybe Jacob finds crack go karting and

1262
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: he's like that you know, depressing, shameful thing I had

1263
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: when I was going around having sex with all these

1264
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: married men. Yeah, totally gone. Now my life is all

1265
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: about crack and go karting, and I've never been happier.

1266
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: And my partner does it with me too, and I

1267
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: live this well balanced, amazing life all thanks to crack.

1268
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: Damn damn. Now now I'm just I'm thinking of all

1269
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: the questions we should have asked him, like has he

1270
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: ever been like a pastor? You know? Damn it, Jacob,

1271
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: if you're out there, leave some notes in the chat.

1272
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a great call.

1273
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: Let's take let's hit it. Let's hit it.

1274
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: Talk to crazy holy ship.

1275
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 8: Oh my god?

1276
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 3: Wait is this you guys?

1277
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1278
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1279
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: Dude? No, this is actually your student loans debt collector. Uh,

1280
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: it's not a pay up?

1281
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you give us more money?

1282
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

1283
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 8: Wait, I can't believe I'm on guys.

1284
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: You can split the payment between what's your venomo?

1285
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: Uh? At I forgot about?

1286
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. We'll we'll send it later. No,

1287
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: what's going on?

1288
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: We'll send you an invoice. I'm Gracie. Thanks for calling

1289
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: into the Gecko show man. What's haw's life going for you?

1290
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 8: It's going pretty good.

1291
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: I've been trying to call for like literally six months,

1292
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 3: so I'm like so shocked right now.

1293
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: How you doing, man?

1294
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: Fantastic? How are you doing? Man?

1295
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. I just peed. We probably cut the

1296
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: part of me peeing out of the podcast, but I

1297
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: feel really good after ipe. I feel like I'm It's

1298
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: like a nice mental reset. But that's enough about me peeing.

1299
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: Gracie.

1300
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: There's some things here that you wrote down that you

1301
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about, but I'd rather hear them out

1302
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: of your voice than mine.

1303
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, So about a month ago, I went and

1304
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: I got three tattoos. One of them is on my

1305
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: arm and it's a cherub. So it was like stupid.

1306
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 3: So basically it's like naked.

1307
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: And child's penis on your arm is what you're saying.

1308
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like a really terrible way to put it,

1309
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 3: but essentially, Yeah, So they keep telling me that it

1310
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: has a child. I've heard this from literally like five

1311
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 3: different different people, and I'm like so self conscious about it.

1312
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 7: I don't know what to do.

1313
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 3: Because it's like visible and I don't want to be

1314
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 3: like walking around in public and somebody's like, oh my god,

1315
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: look at the child on that girl's arm. That's embarrassing.

1316
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 2: So so you're you're saying you're very self conscious about

1317
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 2: this penis, and it says you're you're considering getting it removed.

1318
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am all in all serious.

1319
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Speaker 2: What compelled you to get it in the first place? Like,

1320
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 2: what was appealing to you about the cupid with the penis?

1321
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Was it was? It was it.

1322
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 3: A penis could be that small, it was, So it

1323
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 3: was nothing about the penis that was appealing. It was

1324
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: about like the message of.

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01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,759
Speaker 1: The tax Oh so circumcised. Sorry sorry sorry continue continue

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01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: you continue, Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm being smartest.

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 3: Good, No, you're all good. Like the tattoo is special

1328
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 3: to me, and so like when my tattoo artists is

1329
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: sketching it up, like I didn't even notice that the

1330
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 3: child was there, Like it was just stupid, you know,

1331
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that, and I didn't think about

1332
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 3: how other people would look at it. So, yeah, I

1333
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 3: don't know what to do.

1334
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: What couldn't you cover over the leaf or something? You know?

1335
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're thinking about getting it fully removed. But uh,

1336
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 2: you bring up a great point, man, I mean if

1337
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: if if, like it seems like the penis is has

1338
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: become a big thing. It's the first thing that people

1339
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: are noticing about it. You know, it's a point of

1340
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: self uh you know, consciousness for you do you don't

1341
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 2: have to get that you're talking about get the whole

1342
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: thing or moves. Why don't you just fix the penis?

1343
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: Why don't you have them draw over it with a leaf?

1344
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I reckon I could do that, but

1345
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. Like my family, there's a less like

1346
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 3: my family and my boyfriend they're the main people who

1347
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 3: like have steff to say about it, and I feel

1348
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 3: like they're just never gonna like blive it down, like

1349
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 3: they're never gonna stop bringing it up. So I'm just like,

1350
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 3: should I just ge to remove like all together like

1351
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 3: it never existed?

1352
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: Okay, Well if we're going on, you know, listen, grace.

1353
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 2: So you don't want to be doing things just because

1354
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: your family and your whatever are are casting judgment upon you.

1355
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you feel about the pena?

1356
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about this child's penis that's

1357
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: on your arm?

1358
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 3: Well, when I thought it, right after it was tattooed,

1359
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, well that's the thing, like, you know.

1360
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 8: There's a little penis there.

1361
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 3: But I didn't think it'd be a big deal to anybody.

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01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people with like making women's

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01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: tattooed on their arm or other things like that. I mean,

1364
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: I guess I've never really seemed like a dick tattooed on.

1365
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 2: Somebody, but people, I don't know to think that people

1366
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,560
Speaker 2: would not be I mean, people are like obsessed with

1367
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: talking about dicks and penises and stuff. I've seen dicks

1368
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: drawn on bathroom stalls across the nation. People are obsessive

1369
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: about you know, penises in you know, being in places

1370
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: and shit. So I you know, it is a thing

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01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 2: that I think, you know, it makes sense that people

1372
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: are noticing.

1373
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: Personally, I think your boyfriend and your family are. They

1374
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: don't understand, like what kind of a cool person they know?

1375
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: If you fired up tender right now in your in

1376
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: your bio said I got a child's penis tattooed on

1377
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: my arm. Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean people

1378
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: gender irrelevant, We're just matched to be, like, I need

1379
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: to know more about you.

1380
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: You're considered putting that in the tender bio.

1381
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I don't think I'm ever gonna get tender again.

1382
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in a pretty serious relationship.

1383
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, how long have you guys?

1384
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 3: And I feel like if I did, We've been together

1385
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: for a year and a half.

1386
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, and you're from where again? Just what state?

1387
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: I'm from North Carolina. I just moved from Minnesota literally

1388
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: a week ago.

1389
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, man, it's just so sweet to hear

1390
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: that you say I'm in a pretty serious relationship after

1391
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: a year and a half, and you have to understand

1392
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, we're you know, in LA A year and

1393
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: a half is like three weeks. Really, I would say.

1394
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 2: Well, you've been in a ten year yeah, yeah, you're

1395
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: like from the you know.

1396
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but no, I know, I respect that it's

1397
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: a very serious relationship for you, so you wouldn't even

1398
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: think about firing up tender. But what I'm saying is

1399
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: this is not a point of incompatibility. I just think that,

1400
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: you know, back to Lyle's point, if you like the tattoo,

1401
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: I think you can find a way to keep it

1402
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: that makes you happy.

1403
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1404
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 2: I agree. I think that what the you know, the

1405
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 2: question of the penis on your arm is like is

1406
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 2: it is it an issue for you?

1407
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1408
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about it. I feel

1409
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 3: like I need to separate myself from like listening to

1410
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: what other people have to say about it and kind

1411
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 3: of figure out how I feel about it myself, because

1412
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: like I was psyched to get the tattoo, like I

1413
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: loved how it turned out, and then once everybody started

1414
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 3: like making comments about it, I was like, oh my god,

1415
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 3: did I make a mistake, Like did I not think

1416
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 3: it's through?

1417
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 2: Well? This is this is an opportunity for you, Gracie.

1418
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, to free yourself from the chains

1419
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: of the pions of other people and uh, you know,

1420
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: decide again. This is what I would say to you

1421
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: is really take some time. Yeah, really sit and look

1422
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: at to stare at your arm. Yeah, stare at this,

1423
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: uh this tattoo, and decide for yourself if this penis

1424
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 2: is a big deal for you, and if it's not,

1425
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 2: then then live life freely with the penis on your arm.

1426
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: And if it is, and get it covered up with

1427
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: a little leaf. You make sure the decision is of

1428
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: of yours, not of your your.

1429
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: Faces, you know. Yes, COOLi one hundred.

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01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take and think about it. I have

1431
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 3: a twelve hour drive tomorrow, so I'm gonna think about

1432
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 3: this the entire time I drive.

1433
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: If you stare at that thing long enough, it's gonna

1434
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 2: start talking to you.

1435
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy how big of a deal it is

1436
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: in your life, considering how small it is.

1437
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: What if you like took like on this twelve hour drive.

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you're driving, it's kind of big?

1439
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: Is it kind of big?

1440
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: How big is it?

1441
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 3: Like? It takes up my entire forum?

1442
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: So that's why the whole thing, because.

1443
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's like the cherub is only in my elbow, but.

1444
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 2: Of the body.

1445
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: It was like, why don't you put that big?

1446
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like over this twelve hour drive,

1447
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: Right over this twelve hour drive, you know, stare just

1448
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: stare at the tattoos, stare at stare at the cherub,

1449
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: and eventually maybe it'll start talking. Maybe you'll have maybe

1450
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 2: it'll come alive, right, they'll have a conversation with you,

1451
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: and maybe it'll say, Gracie, there's nothing I love more.

1452
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: It'll say one of two things. I'll say, Grace is

1453
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: something I love more than having my penis out for

1454
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: the world to see. And then please don't cover it up.

1455
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: You know, I feel pride. I want you to feel

1456
01:15:56,040 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 2: the same pride and you know, joy in in and

1457
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: my penis as I do when having it on your arm.

1458
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: Or it'll say, Gracie, why did you curse me with

1459
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: this constant, never ending attention towards my penis that I

1460
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 2: never asked for? Will you please cover me up, Gracie?

1461
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: And then you can make a decision from that.

1462
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna do that, and I'm really

1463
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: gonna listen to see what he thinks.

1464
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: Gracie, let let's final question. You said you were stoked

1465
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: when you got this thing, all right, when you separate

1466
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: right now, like when you just look at the art,

1467
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 1: do you look at it and go, I like this.

1468
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 3: I do Like it's the exact like style I wanted

1469
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 3: and it turned out like even better than I thought

1470
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 3: it would.

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01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: Gracie, let me say this. I don't think there's anything

1472
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: to be ashamed of because families spend thousands of dollars

1473
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: to visit a country full of statues with baby dicks. Okay,

1474
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 1: that's like that's like a prime revenue stream for Italy.

1475
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: There's all these grown men with baby penises and babies

1476
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: with penises exposed. So I think if anything this tattoo

1477
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: there is, there's much to stand on in the way of,

1478
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, telling your people like, hey, I'm gonna keep

1479
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: this fucking baby dick on my arm because this art

1480
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: is sick.

1481
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 2: There's a stand that you could take there, Yeah, if

1482
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 2: it's if it's the stand you want to take.

1483
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: If it's the one you want to take, if you

1484
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: just you know, just on this drive tomorrow, just think

1485
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: about it. If you love it, because here's the thing.

1486
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: Having that art there and going to get it covered up.

1487
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: You may feel a piece of you die as that

1488
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: penis gets covered. You may feel a piece of you

1489
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 1: just giving in to what people want out of you.

1490
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: And that doesn't feel good either. So stand on stand

1491
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, if you want to keep it.

1492
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: Keep it, Mattie. Is there anything else I want to say?

1493
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: Too much, like to me, Noel or the people of

1494
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: the computer before we go.

1495
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 3: I just want to say thank you guys so much.

1496
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 3: While I started listening to you like in January, and

1497
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 3: I would just play the podcast all day at work,

1498
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 3: so I'm like super stoked to talk to you. Noel,

1499
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I feel like I'm gonna learn

1500
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 3: about this and I really appreciate that from you guys.

1501
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 3: I also want to shout out my boyfriend. I love you, Coryland,

1502
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 3: even though you make fun of my baby's penis.

1503
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling Gracey.

1504
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Bye, guys.

1505
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 2: Well we did it, Noel, we did two and a

1506
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 2: half minutes on baby penises. Yeah, twelve and a half minutes.

1507
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:55,799
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1508
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did any post call thoughts on that? No?

1509
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I just think it's so it's funny.

1510
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, if if that if that baby dick was

1511
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: on was on her hard drive, she'd be in a

1512
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: much more precarious situation.

1513
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 2: But but it's it's it's okay because it's on her arm.

1514
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This is this is what people

1515
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 6: miss about me on stream. They just get to hear

1516
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 6: me say all this. Dude, No, I mean you are

1517
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, can we see the chat?

1518
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: Does he talking about this? I'm just curious.

1519
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: I was just kind of curious. But it is an

1520
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: interesting like double standard because it's true. If it were

1521
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: on a hard drive, that would be a horrible problem.

1522
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: It's fine, Yeah, we shouldn't put this out there because

1523
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: now we're gonna get a bunch of discord moderators tattooing

1524
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: really bad ship on their arms and they're like, no,

1525
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: it's art. It's art, man, No, that's art right there.

1526
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: There are no I mean there's people take trips to

1527
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 2: go to the Vatican and ship and at the I've

1528
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 2: been to that they have lots and lots of statues

1529
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: naked babies with the thicks hanging out.

1530
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: That's true. What's what's the famous one of like the

1531
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: little baby peing.

1532
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't know. I just I

1533
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 2: don't know what. I don't know what to strategically look up,

1534
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 2: like what, yeah you google find that, but also not

1535
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 2: be on the list.

1536
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: I think it's type like famous baby peeing statue. It's small, Okay.

1537
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: Not his, but I think famous baby peeing statue is

1538
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 2: probably fine. Let's see what that results in famous baby peeing.

1539
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 2: The mannequin piss in Brussels. There it is, there, it is.

1540
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: See you're looking at it right now. Yeah, the mannequin piss.

1541
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: And what's crazy is famous statue.

1542
01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: He's not even that large like the statue, it's very small.

1543
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: All people actually complain that they they make this uh

1544
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: something that they go see and then when they get

1545
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: there they think.

1546
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, we can't don't. I don't have like

1547
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: the whatever to pull things up. But that's not a penis.

1548
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: That's a little hose.

1549
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, straight up.

1550
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 2: That looks kind of weird.

1551
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the implication is there. Can we give you

1552
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: any tattoos? I don't, man, I thought about getting one

1553
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: this year, but I thought maybe it's too late. It's

1554
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: really corny.

1555
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: What else.

1556
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say it, man, but it's

1557
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna be like some fuck boy tattoo behind the ear.

1558
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to tell me if you don't

1559
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: want to.

1560
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's gonna be real simple. But then I

1561
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: realized it felt I feel like it's too late. Okay,

1562
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: early thirties is a little bit late to start.

1563
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 2: Okay, what was was it? The fuck boy? I kind

1564
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: of want to know what it is. You don't have

1565
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: to tell me, but yeah, is it like, is it

1566
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: it's like a sincere thing?

1567
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, yeah, it was going to be a sincere thing.

1568
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 2: Okay, is it like dedicated to a person?

1569
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: All right?

1570
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: Keep asked me questions, but.

1571
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not dedicated to a person. Chat's like,

1572
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: it's never too late. They all want me to get

1573
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: it and get blasted. Get I'm fucking blasted. Yeah nah,

1574
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: I was, Uh, it was it was just something, you know,

1575
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: something related to to to me personally. You give me

1576
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: a little bit deep.

1577
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: I My thing is that there's nothing, Say do you

1578
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: have any Well I don't have it because there's nothing

1579
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 2: I want to put on my body that I'm like,

1580
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 2: you know, there's nothing that I feel like maybe not nothing.

1581
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 2: There are only there are a small handful of things.

1582
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah where I'm like, I could reasonably see myself still

1583
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: identifying with this in sixty years. Yeah, but nothing. But

1584
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: even those small handful of things, they're not one hundred

1585
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 2: percent certain.

1586
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about that is the people that

1587
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: get like family on their forearm. Yeah, that tattoo actually

1588
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: makes the most sense. Yeah, it's one I would say,

1589
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 1: in like, in terms of theme and your life and whatever,

1590
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: family is actually something that you could believe in in

1591
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: sixty years, you know what I mean, rather than but but.

1592
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, that's that's the thing is like, I'm

1593
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. You know, I have a great relationship

1594
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 2: with my family. I love my mom, love my sister,

1595
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: shout out to Chloe, I love my father, you know,

1596
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 2: great relationship with all of them. But I don't know

1597
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: what could happen six they could one of them, could

1598
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: you know?

1599
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: It's true?

1600
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: Which would really fuck me over. Yeah, and maybe maybe

1601
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: I know, maybe, and then maybe every time I see

1602
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 2: the family that I think, like, I don't think, I

1603
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: don't think that's going to I'm like almost I'm almost

1604
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 2: one hundred percent certain that that's not going to I'm

1605
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 2: basically one hundred percent certainly like nine nine point nine nine,

1606
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: but that point, you know, you just percent. I don't

1607
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 2: want to get that tattooed on my arms.

1608
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair.

1609
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1610
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: I see people with I mean, some people don't give

1611
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: a fuck. They'll just and you know, I don't get

1612
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 2: what other people do. But like when I like, I'm

1613
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: not gonna get like master Shake on the ass, because

1614
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: actually that is that's among probably one of the things

1615
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: that like when I'm eighty, when I look in the

1616
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: mirror and if I saw master Shake on my ass,

1617
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 2: it'd be like, that's pretty funny.

1618
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a good one. Man. I think you're

1619
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 1: sleeping on that one.

1620
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I'll get master Shake on Yeah.

1621
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: That's pretty solid. I think my fuck boy one is

1622
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: the one that it shouldn't do, because that's when I

1623
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: could wake up in the air and be like the

1624
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: hell I think you keep bringing it up. Yeah that's

1625
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: the third time.

1626
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 2: Now I won't ask you about it anymore if you

1627
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: want to, Yeah, no, it's it's yeah, No, I'm just

1628
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: gonna get a baby dig just now. That tattoo would

1629
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: be weird if if if if it was just the

1630
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: baby dick, then I think then I think she would

1631
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 2: have a serious problem.

1632
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: Hello.

1633
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,759
Speaker 2: Hello, Uh is this Alex?

1634
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, it is Hi.

1635
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: What's going on with you?

1636
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: Alex?

1637
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 8: I'm kind of freaking out. Hold on, let me turn

1638
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 8: the stream off really quick. I didn't not think I was.

1639
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 2: I didn't think I would ever be sitting in this

1640
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: chair wearing the scackow costume next to you, Noel, also

1641
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: sitting in that chair where so where all of us

1642
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: are in situations equally, everyone watching this never thought they

1643
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 2: would be sitting where they are watching it. So you're you're, you're,

1644
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: you are in You're at home, You're at home with

1645
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 2: everyone else who never thought that they would be. What's

1646
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 2: going on with you? Alex?

1647
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 8: It's so nice. I'm just kind of hanging out. I've

1648
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 8: been watching the stream, just chilling it. It's my last

1649
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 8: day off, so just trying to make the most of it.

1650
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1651
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 8: I work at Starbucks.

1652
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: So you've been dealing with the shittiest of people for

1653
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: the last however many years?

1654
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, four years. It's it's brutal. It's been especially bad

1655
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 8: post code. Well, I guess we're not post COVID. But

1656
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 8: after COVID happened, people have just gotten very very mean.

1657
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 2: How how have you been coping with that?

1658
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know. I don't I don't know

1659
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 8: if I necessarily have to like cope with it. I

1660
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 8: think there are definitely frustrating moments where I'm like, damn,

1661
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 8: why do we even? Why don't even work here? If

1662
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 8: like people are the shitty? But I actually I really

1663
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 8: love my job. So it makes it a little bit

1664
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 8: easier when you can recognize that, like, people who are

1665
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 8: so mean to service workers usually have other things going

1666
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 8: on in their own lives, And I know that doesn't

1667
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 8: like dismiss it, but it's that's kind of the way

1668
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 8: I look at it. So it makes it less hard

1669
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 8: to deal with.

1670
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,879
Speaker 2: I guess no, that's it's a beautiful that's a beautiful

1671
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: amount of empathy that you have right there too, to

1672
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 2: to be thinking like that. I admire that. So, Alex,

1673
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,759
Speaker 2: you had the thing here that you wanted to talk about.

1674
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 2: Do you want to explain to.

1675
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: Us what it is?

1676
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 8: Yeah? I can explain. So I was calling in to

1677
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 8: talk to you guys about So this actually happened way

1678
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 8: back in like twenty fifteen, I have a friend in

1679
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 8: Michigan who I am like online friends with haven't met

1680
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 8: in person, and back in twenty fifteen, I actually kind

1681
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 8: of pulled, like, I guess, a prank on them, and

1682
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 8: I was able to convince them that I was needed

1683
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 8: from Catfish and someone had been using their pictures to

1684
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 8: catfish other people, and I just convinced them that they

1685
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 8: were on a whole episode of Catfish and the reason

1686
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 8: that their episode couldn't be aired was because they were

1687
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 8: a minor at the time, and so like in my head,

1688
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 8: it all made sense and it was all like strategically

1689
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 8: pieced together. And we're still friends to this day. But

1690
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 8: they still have no idea that it was a joke

1691
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 8: and that it wasn't real, and they literally still tell

1692
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 8: people about it.

1693
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 7: So why God.

1694
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 2: They never found out?

1695
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, they never found out. They still think it's

1696
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 8: like totally legit. I've just never I don't have the

1697
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 8: heart to tell them that it was fake. I feel

1698
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 8: like I would feel really bad.

1699
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, damn. Yeah, to the graves with that one.

1700
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: That's my initial thought. To the grave, you think you think,

1701
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 1: you think she's too late. Man, just gotta let it.

1702
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: Just let him think Yeah, what what would be the

1703
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: reasons why she should tell I can't. I can't think

1704
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 2: of any like halling ones.

1705
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, because I feel like it would just upset her

1706
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 8: if anything like like exactly you said, Like what do

1707
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 8: what comes out of that situation if I'm like, hey,

1708
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 8: remember seven years ago when I like did this thing? Like,

1709
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 8: I feel like you took an upset or if anything, But.

1710
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: I think I think the the So. So do you

1711
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: guys don't hang out in real life ever?

1712
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 5: Do you?

1713
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 2: No?

1714
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 3: She could.

1715
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 8: I live in Washington State. She lives in Michigan, so

1716
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 8: I never have to faith her.

1717
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: How do you guys know each other?

1718
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 8: We met online when we were younger. I think we

1719
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 8: met like on Instagram or something and we just became friends.

1720
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: What what was this because you guys were like running

1721
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 1: stand accounts, like what's the connection?

1722
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 8: Probably yeah, it was when I was like in like

1723
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 8: late middle school, early high school, so it was probably

1724
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 8: something like that. Yeah, we met on Instagram over some

1725
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 8: probably mutual like fandom thing at the time, like you said,

1726
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 8: and then just have stayed friends ever since.

1727
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: Listen, you're all respectfully, fandoms have made you all a

1728
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 1: little crazy. If you've participated in a fandom. It's it's

1729
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: affected your brain cells in ways that TikTok has not,

1730
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: And so I think it's fine. I think it's fine

1731
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: if your friend, you know, just has a little residual

1732
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: fandom craziness and she's like I was on an unaired

1733
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,440
Speaker 1: episode of Cafete because like whatever.

1734
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: Hm, okay, So this was seven years ago, and I

1735
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 2: want to know from your perspective, From your perspective, like,

1736
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: how how much does your friend talk about this? Like

1737
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 2: what like how much space does this take up in

1738
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 2: their lives? A big thing for them because it happened

1739
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 2: seven years ago. I don't know, Like how often do

1740
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 2: you think they think about it? Do they think about

1741
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 2: it more than once a month?

1742
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 8: I mean, it's hard to say because I see them

1743
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 8: post about it maybe once a year, But that doesn't

1744
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 8: mean they don't talk about it like in real life

1745
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 8: with people they know. Because to me, this situation would

1746
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 8: be equivalent to like someone asking like, oh, what's like

1747
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 8: a fun fact about you or what's like something interesting

1748
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 8: that's happened.

1749
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: She's losing a fact when she's playing the circle games

1750
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: at the beginning of any like introductor, any summer campy

1751
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 2: thing would be taking that away from her. This is her,

1752
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 2: this is this is her truth? Two truths in a

1753
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: lie or played that game. Yeah, she's probably played that game.

1754
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 2: Just lied three times.

1755
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 1: It's tragical, I know.

1756
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think about it way more than I

1757
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 8: should and it makes me feel really guilty. I probably

1758
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 8: think about it more than she does, which is kind

1759
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 8: of the problem. So it's like, do I tell her

1760
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 8: to give myself inner peace to not have to think

1761
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 8: about it all the time and feel guilty, or do

1762
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 8: I just like let her let her have that because

1763
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 8: it's not hurting anyone, right, So I don't know.

1764
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 2: So we we we started up by being like, okay, well,

1765
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 2: what are the positive? Why should you tell it? So

1766
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: the positive is you feel guilty? It would make you

1767
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 2: feel better to tell her?

1768
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so. I think it would also be

1769
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 8: kind of like a funny like, hey, like I did this,

1770
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 8: so sorry, how are you? Because we don't really talk

1771
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 8: that much anymore. But I don't know, I don't know.

1772
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,560
Speaker 7: Now I'm feeling maybe it's like not that relevant to

1773
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 7: bring up.

1774
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: Well, if you guys don't even talk that much, I mean,

1775
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I think the best thing you could do, Alex is

1776
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 1: head down to your local open mic workshop. This story,

1777
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 1: get really good at telling it, make it really funny.

1778
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: Go all the way for the next eight years until

1779
01:32:55,400 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: Comedy Central acknowledges your explosive talent, and then at the

1780
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 1: top of your thirty minute special you go. So, when

1781
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: I was thirteen, I convinced someone they were on catfish

1782
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: and the crowd is roarings, and that's where she finds out.

1783
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 2: She goes, you.

1784
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Motherfucker. You're like, but hey, then you bring her out

1785
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 1: at your next big show and you're like, this is

1786
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: who I catfish? And then that's how you make it

1787
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 1: full circle otherwise.

1788
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 2: And then it replaces the Now she has a new

1789
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 2: fun story. I was brought out, told the lie, and

1790
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 2: now she told it on TV, so it replaces. She

1791
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 2: still gets to have a cool factoid.

1792
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: Now you get to extract Now, yes, she gets to

1793
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 1: have this insane story to tell.

1794
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Almost makes the story better. Yes, which is what Now

1795
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 2: that's a perfect win when you get to be open

1796
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 2: with uh uh, you know, you get to absolve the

1797
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 2: shame and guilt with with with coming out honestly, and

1798
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 2: she gets like a steroid injected into her factoid make

1799
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 2: it even more interesting. That's a good win win. I

1800
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 2: like that.

1801
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 1: So I think that's you guys have a lot of

1802
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: faith in me.

1803
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 8: I do not think we're gonna make.

1804
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 2: It that far.

1805
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 1: Hey, you never know.

1806
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 2: Now with that attitude, I think that you could mean you're.

1807
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: You're inherently a funny person. I mean, you did this

1808
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: fucking frank and that is hilarious.

1809
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: You could become some kind of like social experiment comedian. Yeah,

1810
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 2: have you ever thought about leaning into the like have

1811
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 2: you ever done anything like this? Since that's a great

1812
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:36,440
Speaker 2: have you talked with anyone or anything.

1813
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 1: Like that.

1814
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 8: Where I've gassed other people?

1815
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: Let me think, let's go through your real quick.

1816
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:50,640
Speaker 8: Not on like this large of a scale. Now, I

1817
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 8: don't think. I think probably smaller situations, but nothing where

1818
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 8: it's like I've completely embedded an illusion into someone's head.

1819
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 8: So it's od macherioid. God, this is what I feel

1820
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 8: so bad about.

1821
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: But the guilts. But like, like, but you've you've, in

1822
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 2: a way by fucking with her, improved her life. You have.

1823
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 2: You know, she gets to be more interesting at parties,

1824
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,679
Speaker 2: she embraces that. It's made her happy.

1825
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Also, you said she lives in Wisconsin, Michigan Michigan. Sorry,

1826
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: same thing? Where in where in Michigan? Can you say?

1827
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 2: Can you tell her home address?

1828
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 5: No?

1829
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 1: No, just what's the city?

1830
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 8: I have no idea. I yeah, I don't know off

1831
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 8: the top of my head.

1832
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If she's running around fucking ann Arbor

1833
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: being like, you know, even though it's Minnesota.

1834
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 2: I was on an episode of Capitis fans. Who gives

1835
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 2: a fuck?

1836
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 1: Like the people in Michigan, they let them believe her,

1837
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 1: you know, they see that could happen is that someone

1838
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: finds out and it's never true. And then they orchestrate

1839
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: a meeting with Neve and he's like, you know, we

1840
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: never spoke before, right, And she's like, oh my god,

1841
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 1: this is the thing that you do, you know what

1842
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, there's so many positives to not telling

1843
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: so I think Lyles hit it right. There's no real

1844
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 1: positive to tell it.

1845
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, okay, So you by the way,

1846
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 2: for those who are listening that don't know what Catfish is,

1847
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 2: cat how would you just it's a show where this

1848
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 2: guy talks to like what couple people who Yeah? He

1849
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 2: would you describe this?

1850
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Catfish is a show where a guy and his

1851
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:40,919
Speaker 1: friend go out and find people who are developing feelings

1852
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: for someone on the Internet that they've never met, and

1853
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: then they go and reveal that person to their subject,

1854
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: and the subject realizes that the person they've been either

1855
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: in love with or spending a lot of time with

1856
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 1: on the internet is in fact not who they say

1857
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: they are.

1858
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 2: And you kind of did you you pretended to be Nev, right, correct? Yeah,

1859
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 2: so you kind of you kind of did. Can't fish her?

1860
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 2: So that could theoretically you turn into an episode or something.

1861
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, do they still do that show? You should submit yourself. Yeah,

1862
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: get her on the show. That would be a great

1863
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 1: way to absolve the guilts, Like you weren't on it then,

1864
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 1: but guess it now.

1865
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 8: But then I have to approach Neve and say that

1866
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 8: I can't fished her at pin.

1867
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 2: Oh. Yeah, no, you would have to. You have to

1868
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 2: give an interview about that, and then the documentary crew

1869
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 2: could edit it in whatever way they want to portray

1870
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 2: you as heroic or villainous as they.

1871
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's so funny, And you should

1872
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: see if they still do that show and do that.

1873
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 2: Well, Alex, I think we've given you, uh, you know what,

1874
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: three different solutions so far, I hope that some of

1875
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 2: them were said, Factor Dio, Is there anything else that

1876
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: you want to say to me, Noel or the people

1877
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 2: of the computer before we go?

1878
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 8: I do yes to Noel. Yeah. So, my partner and

1879
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 8: I we've been dating for four years. Our first TISS

1880
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 8: four years ago was to the song keep You a

1881
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 8: Dick Fat by TMG, and it's not on Spotify anymore,

1882
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 8: and it ruins my day every single time.

1883
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 4: I go to listen to it.

1884
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: Listen, you don't even need that song. It's you and

1885
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 1: a girl, right. I do need that, but it's you

1886
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 1: and a girl right.

1887
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 8: With me and my boyfriend.

1888
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 7: Oh.

1889
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: When I say when I partner, you know, I'm thinking.

1890
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 2: Part partner. I feel like I've I've heard part I've

1891
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 2: been hearing partner used as like just sorry to catch all.

1892
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not. You know that's that's fair.

1893
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1894
01:38:54,200 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: Well, Hey, listen, I'm sorry, it's never it's never going

1895
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,759
Speaker 1: back to Spotify. I'm sorry, but you know, stay strong,

1896
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: stay strong out there.

1897
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you guys so much for everything you do.

1898
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 8: I love both of you guys so much. You guys

1899
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 8: are like I love you guys so much. Thanks so

1900
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 8: much for having me on Alex forever.

1901
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: Now four years. That's that. That's four years? Is that

1902
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 2: a serious relationship?

1903
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, deaf, No, one year can be a serious relationship.

1904
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: I just like, you don't you know, if you don't

1905
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: believe that, you don't have to say it now.

1906
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: I think I think after a year it can be

1907
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: serious for you, like you take it seriously and so

1908
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: it can be serious. But I just laughed at the

1909
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 1: tone of her voice, was like like, well, I'm in.

1910
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 2: A very very serious relationship and then to reveal yes, because.

1911
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: I feel like after one year people are very like, yeah,

1912
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: I've been daing for a year. You know, it's been

1913
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: going good, right, you know, one year typically signifies like, yeah,

1914
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: this is going in a good direction. Yeah. But she

1915
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: said that ship like I fucking you know, like like

1916
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: she's been a relationship for ten years. Yeah, like they

1917
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 1: even thought was like absolutely, you know yeah.

1918
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 2: I mean even you earlier when I was asking if

1919
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 2: you were in a relationship didn't say with a serious evaton,

1920
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 2: yeah yes.

1921
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't get it.

1922
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 2: Got ten years.

1923
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's whatever.

1924
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a bell curve right where like

1925
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 2: you start out like, yeah, we've been together for a

1926
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 2: year and then you go and then five years it's

1927
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: like when a very seriously show five years, and then

1928
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 2: by ten years it becomes casual again. Yeah yeah, ten

1929
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 2: years whatever.

1930
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because at that point I feel that you, I mean,

1931
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: you've been through so much shit that.

1932
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's just like, yeah, when when would you

1933
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 2: say your relationship became serious?

1934
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? I would say around like that, oh that you

1935
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 1: know that, it's like right around like you know that

1936
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: that three four year mark we were like, Okay, this

1937
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: is like for real, for real, like we're not going anywhere.

1938
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: That was that was the vibe.

1939
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 2: And then you have not yet gone anywhere. No, do

1940
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 2: you think like you might one day or you no? No?

1941
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: Cool, Yeah, we're solid. Yeah, I mean she and I

1942
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: may go somewhere, you know.

1943
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 2: That's cool. Do you get married? We're going to get

1944
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 2: married in October? Yeah, muscletough Yeah, thanks, man, are excited.

1945
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no. I think originally we were just kind

1946
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: of like whatever about the whole concept. Yeah, and then

1947
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 1: recently we were like, eh, why don't we do something.

1948
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna have like a big crazy no.

1949
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: No no no, We're just gonna fly out with some

1950
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 1: family to another country and just do it somewhere private.

1951
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 2: It's the way to do it. I feel like if I,

1952
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 2: if I, if I get married, I don't want to

1953
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 2: do a big wedding for because I don't want There

1954
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 2: was did you hear about the story of the couple

1955
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 2: who didn't have catering at their wedding so that they

1956
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 2: could have Mickey and Minnie Mouse there No, And people

1957
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 2: were like, fuck those guys, Like wow, considered to the guests,

1958
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 2: that's brutal.

1959
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you know, I don't want.

1960
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to do a wedding that's like for

1961
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 2: other people, I would want to fuck with what you're doing.

1962
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks man. No, no weddings. You know, I've heard

1963
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 1: a lot of different opinions about them, but ultimately, you know,

1964
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 1: unless you got like some situation where you both have

1965
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: like a crazy big family and that, and those families

1966
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: are like, we're gonna put money down, it's gonna be

1967
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: the biggest party on earth.

1968
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,600
Speaker 2: Which even then, it's if the folks are paying for it,

1969
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 2: then then I'm down.

1970
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: But even then they're kind of making your day about them.

1971
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you're right, You're right. That kind of kind

1972
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 2: of comes with a contract.

1973
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: So I think just make it down the middle. You know,

1974
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: I have said to a buddy of mine, I do

1975
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: think weddings should have activities in them, you.

1976
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 2: Know, other than dancing.

1977
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: Heh. Yeah. Like, imagine if you went to a wedding

1978
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: and then immediately after there was like an open registry

1979
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: for a free moon bounce would be great. But even like,

1980
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, a fifteen on fifteen paintball match and you

1981
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: could just go in waves and sign up with the

1982
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 1: people at the wedding. I feel like that would bring

1983
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: you all closer together. You know, some people drinking, some

1984
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: people playing paintball, they like, hey, yeah, we can't. This

1985
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: wedding was crazy.

1986
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 2: I had a similar thing, and I I said, mazotov a,

1987
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 2: now I'm talking about my burmtsvah. I'm not that Jewish. Yeah,

1988
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,839
Speaker 2: but I've I'm signaling Judaism.

1989
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah a little bit, that's all right.

1990
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 2: I had even busters.

1991
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Bro, you're probably one of the most memorable ones.

1992
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because all I And the reason why is because

1993
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 2: like I, girls really didn't like me when I was thirteen,

1994
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 2: and like got guys, I don't want to dance. It's

1995
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 2: like never like no girls my bermtzvah, yeah, and guys

1996
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 2: never really want to dance, and like unless if there's

1997
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 2: like girls there, that's kind of like what the you know,

1998
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 2: dancing environment was about. So we fucking play video games instead,

1999
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 2: and it was sick. Yeah, way better idea than and.

2000
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: All those girls missed out, bro, Yeah a little as

2001
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: sick ass.

2002
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 2: Party would have missed as party had we had a

2003
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:46,759
Speaker 2: cake shaped like a slurpie.

2004
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're describing all cool things.

2005
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you doing on time? I know that

2006
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 2: you have a thing.

2007
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: I think I got it. Unfortunately I have to dip.

2008
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 1: But this was this flew by man. This was fucking amazing.

2009
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,600
Speaker 2: Dude, dude, thank you so much for being on No.

2010
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 1: I would I would love to come back and do

2011
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 1: this again. Man, please do, please do.

2012
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 2: Is a pleasure having you here.

2013
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2014
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 2: I appreciate you very much taking the time out of

2015
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 2: your your your you know, go karting and.

2016
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 1: Here.

2017
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 2: Dude, is there anything you know before we go that

2018
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,679
Speaker 2: you want to say to the people of the computer

2019
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 2: anything I want to plug you. Are you still used

2020
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 2: to have dates? Right?

2021
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2022
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 2: That's your dates?

2023
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got some. I got some dates coming up.

2024
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 1: I can't remember all the things I'm going to I'm

2025
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 1: going to I'm.

2026
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 2: Looking them up. I'm looking at Miller Miller.

2027
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 5: Uh.

2028
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 2: The very first question here is what is Noel Miller's ethnicity?

2029
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 3: Uh?

2030
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 2: There we go on, let's see. All right, I'm gonna

2031
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this for you, Noel Miller. Is you

2032
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 2: gonna be in you already in?

2033
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2034
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go. All right, hold on, Okay, you're

2035
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 2: gonna be in West des Moines, Iowa. September sixteenth, seventeenth.

2036
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 2: Pull up, You're gonna be in Sarahcuse, New York, September

2037
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 2: thirtieth and October first.

2038
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna be in West oh that's canceled West

2039
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: Palm Stans.

2040
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 5: Oh.

2041
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 1: Wait, that's when I getting married. No, Syracuse is good,

2042
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 1: West West begins. That's when I'm getting married.

2043
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 2: You're gonna be in Baltimore, Maryland at mcgooby's Joke House,

2044
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 2: one of the first places I Elveray did stand up.

2045
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 2: Hell yeah bean one, November third, the fifth shout out

2046
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 2: to mcgooby's joke House. Yeah, November eighteenth and ninetheenes. You

2047
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 2: gonna be in Columbus, Ohio. Yeah, it's wint stand up.

2048
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 1: Just just a few more dates for the year than

2049
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 1: we take a break and the next year going hard.

2050
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 2: Check out the Tiny Meat Gang podcast.

2051
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, pull up.

2052
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 2: I think I don't know if I said this on

2053
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 2: the podcast or not, but I just found out that

2054
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 2: tiny meat means small penis.

2055
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: I think, yes, I didn't know. You just thought it

2056
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 1: was like a small deli meat. Yeah, something like that.

2057
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's we We like it more ambiguous, you know.

2058
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes we like it like the media. Guys.

2059
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,839
Speaker 2: You know, I'll let you get out of here. Everybody,

2060
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 2: thank you for being here.

2061
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: Are you all? You're not staying, are you?

2062
01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm going to Hell.

2063
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, Thank you everyone, goodbye, See you folks.

2064
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 2: There, Rep Ken goes on the line taking your phone

2065
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 2: calls every night.

2066
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 3: There, Repeat Can goes doing his eye.

2067
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 2: He's teaching you cloud in the of your life, but

2068
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 2: he's

2069
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 1: Not really an expert.