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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Chests Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Dangling a stake in front of the lion and you

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Speaker 2: ain't got no cage in between you. He gonna get

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Speaker 2: to that state.

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Speaker 3: So let's go inside the matchup Motivated Aaron Rodgers? Is

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Speaker 1: All right, Bart, we're going back to a vintage look today.

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Speaker 2: Something for Christmas?

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Speaker 3: I get him a to e a colet.

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Speaker 4: Hey, let me ask you this, as far as Christmas

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Speaker 4: is concerned, what's it like in scott household?

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Speaker 3: It's changed? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, As I'm mature, we get older, the kids get older.

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Speaker 2: Like my oldest is nineteen years old, he'll be twenty. Like, bro,

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Speaker 2: what are we talking about? Like you're grown man like

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Speaker 2: one or two gifts. The only one that really gets

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Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff is the baby, uh and Gizelle

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Speaker 2: because her birthday is pretty close to Christmas, and she's

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Speaker 2: getting at the age now where buying her car is

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Speaker 2: just as much for us as it is for her

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Speaker 2: because she's an athlete. So and also now you can

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Speaker 2: go pick up your brothers and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: So she'll get a car this year. But that's just

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Speaker 3: because at.

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Speaker 2: Some point you need your kids to become you know,

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Speaker 2: borderline babysitters and uber drivers.

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Speaker 4: What about these electric scooters that have raged riding around

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Speaker 4: and now, oh.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm big on that type of stuff, like

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Speaker 2: she's had that, like Bryce has that, the bit that

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Speaker 2: can go twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Miles thirty five miles prior. Yeah, you better have a

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Speaker 3: good helmet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially like around here, like we live in Mindium,

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Speaker 2: So it's the hills and going up and down blind

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Speaker 2: gets dark at twelve o'clock, I mean at four thirty

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Speaker 3: So you know it's time for her to be able

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Speaker 3: to you know, pick up her brother. What about the

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Speaker 3: a household? What do you got going on? You guys, guys,

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Speaker 3: what the family's coming.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's coming in and Santa Claus is coming Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 3: If we're good at home and maybe we get a tumble,

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Speaker 3: Is that why you've been in your office so much?

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Speaker 3: Just like the Hill all they're in. Yeah, they're coming

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Speaker 4: They're gonna have a lot of people there, so it's

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Speaker 4: a stressful time and.

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Speaker 2: You're entertaining people don't realize it's exhausting for the Whost

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Speaker 2: family making sure that everybody's okay, comfortable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love the holiday season because everybody gathers together, but

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Speaker 4: it is a lot of work and got.

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Speaker 1: To make sure to keep your cool here during December.

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Speaker 4: But seasons, greetings to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Juts fans, Wat you're the.

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Speaker 3: Same, right. What happened?

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Speaker 4: We saw again this Sunday at Life Dating ninety nine

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Speaker 4: yard drive just come out of the gate, quite hot,

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Speaker 4: weird game, not a lot of possessions, Yeah, and the

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Speaker 4: Jets unable to capitalize on a number of opportunities.

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Speaker 1: They lose by ten out of C West leaders.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Unfortunately, when it's not that many possessions and you

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Speaker 2: and you know they had the opportunities and there's something

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Speaker 3: If you talk about what the twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five Jets are all going to be about, it has

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Speaker 2: to be about finishing, right, and it's going to be

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Speaker 2: about it's going to have to be about, Okay, when

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Speaker 2: we get to a position, how do we win these

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Speaker 2: games instead of losing them? And it just comes down

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Speaker 2: to execution latent games. And they can go back and

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Speaker 2: we have self inflicted wounds. And this has to be

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Speaker 2: the mindset about going forward. Whoever comes in here and

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Speaker 4: Jeff Albrick, he was going for it against the Rams

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Speaker 4: right two to five on fourth down, and I asked

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Speaker 1: He said, hey, we're going to be aggressive, and they

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Speaker 2: I mean, the analytics suggests that you have more opportunities

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Speaker 2: the unfortunate part, because sometimes it can be a momentum builder,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you look back at that game, I thought

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Speaker 4: everything flipped there early in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: The Jets had a drive that was I think around

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it took a lot of time off the clock,

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Speaker 4: and you're inside the red zone. Fourth down, Rogers looking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no points.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's disheartening at times, right, because you understand.

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Speaker 3: When you're hearing Rogers and here By early.

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Speaker 2: In the season talking about this cover two and two

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Speaker 2: you exercise is patience, right three or four yards, five yards?

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Speaker 2: You know, negative play, you know, picking up yardage and

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Speaker 3: But then if you don't cash in on it.

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Speaker 2: Then it can be demoralizing because it's hard to do

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Speaker 2: procedure penalties, and it just did that for the most part,

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Speaker 2: but they just couldn't execute when they needed the most

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without Quinn Williams, I thought the defense was okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say great. Yeah he got it.

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Speaker 1: He gets over one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't put the ball in the.

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Speaker 4: I thought Stafford did not look comfortable. We did not

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Speaker 4: look on but they did just enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did just enough not to to and I

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Speaker 2: think they anticipated it was gonna be a tough game.

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Speaker 2: You got a West Coast team coming all the way

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Speaker 3: Be a little bit weird. And you know, it's seventy

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Speaker 2: I thought they did a good job and just stand

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Speaker 4: You know. What I liked early in this game was

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Speaker 4: the Jets got breist Hall involved. He had more than

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Speaker 4: fifteen touches in the first half, and we saw once

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Speaker 4: again more examples of how dynamic he can be as

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Speaker 4: a receiver. We just broke that down for Jets Game Day,

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Speaker 4: which is gonna air Shameless Blog CBS seven thirty Sunday morning,

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Speaker 4: or you can check it out on YouTube or New

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Speaker 4: York Jets dot com.

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Speaker 1: But the third and eleven he just leaks out of

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Speaker 2: Right, It's like, keep it up with right you whenever?

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Speaker 2: What a luxury it is to have a running back

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Speaker 2: that you can give the football to on a you know,

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Speaker 2: checkdown and he sees two defenders that are unblocked and

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Speaker 2: he's able to make both of them missplit the defense

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Speaker 2: and get you a first down. I mean, it just

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Speaker 2: tells you how dynamic he is, how strong he is,

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Speaker 4: While his numbers aren't overwhelmingly gaudy this year, you still

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Speaker 4: we were just talking about it before we started taping.

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Speaker 4: Is that you consider him in the elite class or

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I do. I think he can do

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, he has untapped potential, but I

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Speaker 4: He's in.

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Speaker 3: He's in.

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Speaker 2: He's in a class with those type of guys where

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Speaker 2: it's positionless. It's not that you even put him in

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Speaker 2: you get him the ball any way you can. I

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Speaker 3: And put him at number one.

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Speaker 2: He's shown that he can catch a high point the

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Speaker 2: the difference. Braylen Allen is going to be going to get.

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Speaker 2: But you can see the difference when one catches the

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Speaker 3: The ball, Oh, I have the ball. Breis Hall is

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Speaker 2: He goes and you see that when he catches with

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Speaker 2: in rhythm. He doesn't break stride. It's not stop catch runs, run,

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Speaker 2: It's a transition.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot of pass catcher can do it altogether,

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Speaker 4: But he's a unique runner as well in terms of

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Speaker 2: He reminds me of Marshall Fault, but he's faster in

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Speaker 2: Marshall Fault. But he has still the running style of

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Speaker 2: Aeron Foster, but he also has in my opinion, and

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Speaker 2: he has a lot of Matt Forte in it's in

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Speaker 2: this game as well.

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Speaker 3: The type of runner.

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Speaker 2: It's not like a choppy like steps and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: It's his head's not.

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Speaker 2: Bad, but it doesn't look like he's utilizing a lot

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Speaker 2: It's just like okay, here I go, almost like much

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Speaker 2: like Eric Dickerson used to run too, those type of runners,

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Speaker 3: Got so much God give the talent.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying there's not a lot of hard

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Speaker 2: Almost all people who say about Robinson cano like, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's trying. Yeah, yeah, I am trying.

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Speaker 2: But my manner ism, my body, it doesn't stress.

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Speaker 4: That ninety nine yard drive to start the game, that

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Speaker 3: From in the back of that wasn't the route.

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Speaker 4: Three of the Jets' first four drives were fourteen plus plays,

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Speaker 4: Them over these final two games? I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: To try to run a little bit more when you

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Speaker 3: So make these guys tackle wire yacht guys in space.

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Speaker 3: But what changed for you specifically.

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Speaker 2: In the colet Well see, I was never like these

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Speaker 2: As far as it's sure tackling, Yeah, I like to

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Speaker 2: I mean he's having one of his best seasons at

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Speaker 3: You can bang up from shoulders, you can bang up.

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Speaker 2: And you fall on top of it, or the shoulders,

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Speaker 4: You know what's crazy about the Rams game, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: With seven possessions, and that that just tells you that

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Speaker 3: At the end. Yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about Jets bills, but Garret Wilson right now,

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Speaker 4: it's thirteen yards.

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Speaker 3: Shy of a thousand.

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Speaker 4: How can you get them going? Maybe earlier in the

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Speaker 3: The difficulty is right.

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Speaker 2: We just talked earlier about getting bris Hall. Let the

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Speaker 3: How do we get Garret Wilson's touches.

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Speaker 2: It has to be something that you know what you

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Speaker 2: think when you have that extended drive that the players

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Speaker 3: Play cover two to that?

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Speaker 2: It's hard because now you can take two guys vertical

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Speaker 2: if you motion to it because if his zone, if

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Speaker 4: So schematically you can get him involved more. And you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and it's pre snap motion.

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Speaker 2: He runs like a fifteen yard dig underneath that because

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Speaker 3: Would you rather busy done?

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Speaker 3: And I would short most of them in and just.

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Speaker 3: So now you're in space with Willie Rope after your DN.

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Speaker 2: Just your support just got decleted because you know you

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Speaker 3: Just now you can do something that's not.

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Speaker 1: Right to be facing Willie Rolf in space.

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Speaker 3: By the way, inact Willy Rope and will Shield they

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Speaker 4: You know it's every week when that comes with cover

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00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 4: two though, yeah, right, cover two.

446
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 3: Now he can run vertical, he has matchups against linebackers

447
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. He can sit in his owns.

448
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 2: So it was basically the benefit whoever's a two man

449
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,399
Speaker 2: side when you have when you have cover two, the

450
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 2: inside guy has the ability because he can press out

451
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: or he can press it right. So you have opportunities,

452
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 2: but you're going to have you know, you're getting vertical

453
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 2: hook by a linebacker, so it gives you the advantage.

454
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 4: Jets Bills this weekend, what's it like playing in that

455
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 4: stadium as a visitor?

456
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 3: Now they were not in their heyday when you played there. No,

457
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 3: that was a team that was always strung.

458
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were always loud though as well. It's a

459
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 2: college atmosphere. I mean they don't have much to cheer

460
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 2: about up there. I mean they got Buffalo wild Wings maybe,

461
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 2: and they got they got Applebee's. It's not much to

462
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: really celebrate up there. Cold Weather, cole Weather's cool. Initially,

463
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: everybody dreaming of a white Christmas. It just gets downright

464
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 2: depressing after thirty days of it.

465
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 3: So I grew up in western New York, so you.

466
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 2: Know all what time is I had Lake effected it

467
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 2: off Lake. He fact, that's right here, look at you, right,

468
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean right exactly.

469
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: I mean I'm Lake.

470
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 4: We were talking before about the Nickel defense.

471
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 3: They love Taron Johnson.

472
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 4: He's a really good player, But what does that mean

473
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 4: for you offensively? When you look at Buffalo and you

474
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 4: know that they're going to live in Nickel or.

475
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,479
Speaker 3: That means a lot of Bressall, a lot of Braidler now,

476
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: a lot of Isaiah Davis. I'm gonna give them what

477
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 3: they want.

478
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: You you saying you're daring us to to to stop,

479
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 2: to run to like run against the light box. Yeah,

480
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: I might go in there and I might go jumbo.

481
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 2: Let's say, I'm gonna get you out of this, because

482
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 2: that's what you want. I'm gonna go jumbo. I'm gonna

483
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 2: go something I'm gonna make. I'm gonna dig you out

484
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 2: of that. I'm gonna get.

485
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 3: Double doubles everywhere.

486
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: Say tackle my big guys coming downhill. Everybody in that

487
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: backfield for the Jets are two twenty or heavier.

488
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that they live and nickel?

489
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: It feels well because.

490
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: The world, the world of football is played in like

491
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 2: in three wives dime, no fullbacks. But that's why when

492
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: they go against the team with a fullback like the Ravens,

493
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 2: they get the dog. They get their doors right off,

494
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 2: right to the two hundred yards right, you know, So

495
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: that's what happens. So like you know, there's very few

496
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 2: teams that invest in h backs or fullbacks. But you know,

497
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: this is the time when you wish you had a

498
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: power running game.

499
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 3: So speak to that.

500
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: Because you were talking about injuries before and tackling.

501
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 3: What's the NFL locker room like late in the year.

502
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 4: As far as that training room, I'll never forget you

503
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 4: guys lining up and getting ready to play the Pittsburgh

504
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 4: Steelers AFC championship game. Yes, the last playoff game the

505
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: Jets have had. That was following the twenty ten season.

506
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 4: That was after you guys went to New England beat

507
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 4: Tom Brady in his house. You went to Indianapolis, you

508
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 4: beat that actually started with Peyton Manning in Indy, then

509
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 4: that great win over Brady at Gilotte and then finally

510
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 4: got Roethlisbergner and Pittsburgh. I'll never forget what that training

511
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 4: room look like before that game.

512
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: What's the war of episode? Yeah, what's the war of attrition? Like?

513
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: At this point of year. It's funny because you start

514
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 3: to see it happen to like Detroit. Like the line

515
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: is right.

516
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you play a physical brand of football, you

517
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: paid the cost to and you hope that you can

518
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: avoid major injuries. But everybody's beat up and you're what

519
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: you're hoping is that they're beat up just as much

520
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: you your opponents. But you see certain guys like the

521
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs getting healthy. They get Hollywood Brown backed, they get

522
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: guys like for Checko Jack, they get guys back that

523
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: hadn't had to have the War of attrition. They were

524
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: out healing up from injury and surgeries and now they're fresh,

525
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: so you you hope you lay to those guys, like

526
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: when you know we did our run the first year,

527
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: you know, Thomas Jones pretty much got us there, but

528
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: Sean Green carried us over, right because he was fresh.

529
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: He didn't have a lot of carries. So when he

530
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: came in like he had fresh lively, so he avoided

531
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: the rookie wall because he didn't he was he didn't

532
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: get a lot of carries during the season, right, So.

533
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 3: What did your body feel like at the end of

534
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: those seasons? Oh, nine ten, my body was. I mean

535
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 3: I feel like you know, I was physically beat up.

536
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: You know, anybody that goes to AFC Championships or you

537
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: start saying it with like the San Francisco forty nine ers,

538
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: when you play late in the season, it's just about

539
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: it's only a matter of time because you're playing way

540
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: more games than everybody, and it affects your ability to

541
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: heal in the off season, which affects your ability to

542
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: train to come in the following season stronger. And as

543
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: you get older, it gets harder and harder to recover.

544
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: So you start seeing guys like that, Remember that was.

545
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: The last year we went and we went to Pittsburgh. Yep,

546
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: that was my.

547
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: Third straight AFC championship, you know, even coming from Baltimore.

548
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: And we didn't have the bye week. We had to

549
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: buy day right because of the hurricane, that's right. And

550
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: so like my body, you know, I was a guy

551
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: that never missed any time. So that was difficult because

552
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: your body never gets a chance to heal. My body

553
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: was constantly inflame. Probably took me two years after retirement

554
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: to get all the information. Really, my hands were always

555
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: super slow, like my body was just always in flame.

556
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: And then you know, it took like two years afterwards

557
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: my hands actually went down to the right side.

558
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't understand what these guys go through. You're

559
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 4: you're happier on the other side of things.

560
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 3: Now at this point, I'm sorry, No, I want a scarf,

561
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 3: I need I need heat of packs, gloves, isotomas, all that. Hey, Uh,

562
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 3: it was.

563
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,239
Speaker 4: Cold there at stadium months on the head the pre

564
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 4: and postgame show out there.

565
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: I was getting hit though, but you tumped it out though. Yeah,

566
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: you had a little hot, little shaky pass. Uh. Jets.

567
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 4: Defensively, Quinn Williams didn't play against the Rams. He saw

568
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner go out of that game with the Hammy

569
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 4: Tony Adams with an interception. He also exits a game,

570
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: so you're dealing with different personnel right now. Jamie Surewood

571
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: continues to have a great season, but in terms of

572
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: this battle against the Bills, they're kind of your multi

573
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: dimensional because they'll run it, they'll rely on it more

574
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 4: than they have in the pass. There used to be

575
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: more of a finesse offense. And then he got Allen

576
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 4: back there. How do you think they should approach the scam.

577
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 3: I like the way the Patriots played.

578
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: They always had like a spy out there for him,

579
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: because if you give him opportunities to sit back there

580
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: and then he decides to take off, then you're you're

581
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: at his mercy, right because he's a guy at quarterback.

582
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 2: You don't even have a certain parts where you can

583
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: even tackle him anyway. And then now he's out there

584
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: in space and they're telling you, oh, well, you can't

585
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: go hit him.

586
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: He has the protections of quarterback. I'm like, well, you

587
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 3: mean the guy that's who's a running back who's bigger

588
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: than me.

589
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I gotta tap him a certain way. And

590
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: then he can decide to slide at the end. I

591
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: hope next year, like they say we're running, bring the

592
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: quarterbacks like decide to run. They lose all protections, they

593
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: can't slide. I hope that they can get themselves. So really,

594
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: because you get stuck in between no man's land, because

595
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 2: how many times have we seen Patrick mahomes fact, like

596
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: he's going out of bounce, you let up as a

597
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: defender and then he cuts it up.

598
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: How many times have we seen guys run.

599
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: And we anticipated and think they're going to do it,

600
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: and they've done it all game, But because now it's

601
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, now they putting their head down right right,

602
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: you know, and then they.

603
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: Trying to run you over.

604
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: Then every day you get teased and laugh at oh,

605
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: you can't tackle the quarterback in space, you a linebacker.

606
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: But it's because you have to be thinking. I don't

607
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: have to think when a running back comes through it

608
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: and I hit him. Especially when you talk about so many.

609
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: Of these quarterback plays are design quarterback runs.

610
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: Look at what Jay Daniel does, right, those are designed.

611
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: So if he's designed running, he's a lie, he's he

612
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: should be a running back. Yeah, yeah, so you shouldn't

613
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: have to.

614
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: You shouldn't. Running backs don't have the ability to slide.

615
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: So if all these guys, so, the punishment should be

616
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: if you want to run and use your guy making

617
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: eleven or eleven, if you want to do that, then

618
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: they should be treated just like a running the league whatever.

619
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: Do that.

620
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: I think they should because I think that will stop

621
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: the guys would be they'll be.

622
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: Very clear and they'll have a clear understanding.

623
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: When you lead this tackle box, you're a football player

624
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: as long as you in this tackle box.

625
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: Your quarterback. When you lead this tackle box and he's.

626
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: Trying to run in space, and you know, guy like

627
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson a thousand yards, guy like Josh out of

628
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: seven hundred yards, you gotta you gotta, you gotta.

629
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Speaker 3: Pay the price.

630
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: You don't get to run all the way out there

631
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: and run fifty yards.

632
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: Oh I don't have to get tackled. Nah, it don't

633
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: work that way, all right.

634
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 4: So who do you want the Jets specifically in terms

635
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: of spine, who would you put on him?

636
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: Well, I would have said a guy like Chuck Clark

637
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: or something like that. Sure tackle in a space because

638
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: you want that guy to be a safety. Like if

639
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: this would have been one of our teams, we probably

640
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: would have put Eric Smith, or we'd have put James

641
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: hey Bow like somebody that's a guy that's physical enough

642
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: to kind of be strong enough to take it down

643
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: such a big.

644
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: Player, but also have enough tackle radius.

645
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: You almost a little guy there that he can just

646
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: stiff arm in their arm so short they can't get

647
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: to his body when he's stiff arming up because he's

648
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: six y five.

649
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: Sure what we talked about him on a number of times,

650
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: he's just going to finish the season with the career

651
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: or stepped up for mostly what's his next steps? Maybe

652
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: this week against Buffalo and then finishing the season against Miami.

653
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: I know his contract is up at the end of

654
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: the year, but from what you saw from him this year,

655
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: what's his next level?

656
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: Next level?

657
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he's also a good start, but he's gonna

658
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: have to get bigger and stronger, you know, maybe five

659
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: to ten more pounds so he can anchor more. Uh,

660
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: and then he's gonna have to get ready for the

661
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: adjustment because this year he wasn't in a lot of

662
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: scott On reports right, and they were like, oh, Quincy's

663
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 2: over here, CJ's over here, and they was like, Oh,

664
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Speaker 2: they got this other guy. Now he's gonna get the

665
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: full out of a tension of the team. They don't

666
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Speaker 2: be saying, hey, you know we we we send in

667
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: our lineman up to him, or we're doubling him, or

668
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: we're pulling for him, or we're putting the fullback on him.

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Speaker 2: And that's an adjustment period when you go from kind

670
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: of sneaking up on people and everybody else is part

671
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: of the game plan to watch off of this guy,

672
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Speaker 2: and then now they start giving me your respect.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna see what happened?

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Speaker 4: Did you sneak up on people early in your career

675
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Speaker 4: once you jump brought when you went from the special

676
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Speaker 4: team's as to the court and.

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Speaker 2: Then my first year as a starter where I got

678
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: them nine and a half, Yeah, you were the second man.

679
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Speaker 2: And then then the next year there's like, oh, fifty

680
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: seven left rip like or or they start sliding to me.

681
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, man, this is ray Lewis behind me.

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Speaker 2: Go don't you slide to him?

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Speaker 3: You know you're like that again. You were like Reggie White, Well.

684
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: No, you know, like I think the most I ever

685
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Speaker 2: got after that was like five sacks in the year.

686
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Speaker 3: But you know, as a middle linebacker.

687
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Speaker 2: Traditionally you know blitz a lot, you know, I mean

688
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Speaker 2: a lot of my blitzeres here was run blitzes.

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Speaker 3: Of course AFC.

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Speaker 1: The Bill's right now, it's an interesting spot.

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Speaker 4: We're taping one day. Tomorrow's Christmas Eve. We got some

692
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Speaker 4: Christmas football. By the way, I want to get your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Do you like Christmas football?

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Speaker 3: It's something to do.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, the NFL is consistently trying to take

696
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Speaker 2: over the world, right, like pinking the brain.

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Speaker 3: Traditionally, it used to be basketball when I was growing up,

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving was football, and now football is trying to take

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Speaker 2: over everything. So it used to be that Christmas was

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Speaker 2: an unofficial start of basketball season.

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Speaker 3: Swing start paying attention to basketball. Now, yeah, and they'll

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Speaker 3: have they still have it. But if football is on

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Speaker 3: and basketball.

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Speaker 1: Is on in the United States, we know wherever.

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Speaker 3: We know where everybody's turning to child.

707
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: To Buffalo could be an interesting position here.

708
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: They right now are the two seed, and nasty Chiefs

709
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: are won, and the Chiefs win Wednesday, it's over.

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Speaker 3: They're the one seed. The Bills could finish.

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Speaker 1: Three if Baltimore won out or if Pittsburgh won out.

712
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Speaker 2: I think they want to be able to have as

713
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Speaker 2: many home games as they can go, So you think

714
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Speaker 2: the first of all, this suggests they hate us. Dan

715
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: Dawkins had something personal against us. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: we buy Bucking more than anybody or any team in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Hey man, Merry Christmas to everybody.

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna be back in the new year, hey

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Speaker 1: fark