1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: An exclusive glimpse into what happened in the celebration room 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: at the in season tournament in Las Vegas, an unexpected 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: recounting as well of what it's like to shake hands 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: with Pacers coach Rick Carlisle Lebron ad the Lakers winning 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: the ist, the future of the n Season Tournament. We 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: get to all of that next here on this League Uncut. 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League uncut. 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: In the rule of twenty four hour NBA News, this's blue, 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: Chris Hans, it's so time, works time, it's so time. 10 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: This League uncut is underway and on fire. 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: This should be a good one. 12 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Everyone, Welcome in to another of this uncut. Chris Haynes 13 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: and I recording on a Sunday night, a very quiet 14 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Sunday night in the NBA after the n Season Tournament 15 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: championship game in Las Vegas. Of course Chris was there. 16 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: We're going to get to all that in a sec 17 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: but first things first, I have to Chris, we have 18 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: to amend. If you remember, I recently asked you the 19 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: trivia question, how many days once the season starts, and 20 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: this season started on October twenty fourth, how many days 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: during the season are there no games, and you guessed four, 22 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: and at the time it was actually five. You were 23 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: very close. It was only five nights during you again, 24 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: five nights between October twenty fourth and mid April when 25 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: the regular season ends, only five nights where there are 26 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: no NBA games. But that number actually has now climbed 27 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: to seven because this week in the NBA was so 28 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: funky schedule wise the way the league set it up. 29 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday, two quarterfinals each in the n Season Tournament, 30 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: no other games. Wednesday and Friday. Everybody who didn't make 31 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: it to Vegas or didn't even make the quarterfinals of 32 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: the IST, all those teams played Thursday again, only the 33 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: semifinals in the IST. Saturday night, the only game on 34 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: the calendar was the championship game. But this Sunday and 35 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: the previous Sunday there were no games at all, So 36 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: it took that number to seven. So we have to 37 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: change and update that answer. But obviously we'll be back 38 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: to full speed by the time this podcast drops Monday, 39 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: all thirty teams will be back to full speed and 40 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: easing their way back to some semblance of normalcy. But 41 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad we're connecting tonight because my sources say that 42 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: you were the only reporter initially granted access to the 43 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: vaunted Did they call it the celebration room in Vegas? 44 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: Is that is that true? Have I been? Have I been? 45 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: Have I received accurate information? 46 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: You got good sources, Sten, you got good sources. You've 47 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 3: been working your magic. Yeah, that's yeah, that's what they 48 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: called it. They called the celebration room. So it's the 49 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: room that you know, the NBA designates to have all 50 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: the champagne, beer goggles, you know, all that. It's the 51 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 3: room that the winning team they will go in there 52 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: first celebrate, you know, do do what they do. Then 53 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: they'll go to the locker room. And so yeah, no, 54 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: it was cool. I was, you know, due to my 55 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: my affiliation with Turner, they allowed they allowed for me 56 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: to be in there amongst among the let me see 57 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: the Laker, you know, the team, the team's media camera crew, 58 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: ESPN's camera crew, and then Turner's camera crew. But again myself, 59 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: I was the only media member in there. So it 60 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: was cool. 61 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: So I was, And let's be honest, I didn't need 62 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: super I didn't need super top secret sources on that one, 63 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: since you're the only one I saw who tweeted pictures 64 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: of the champagne, pictures of the goggles, and pictures your source. 65 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I gave it away, Okay, bad? Yeah, no, I mean, 66 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: but it was cool. I was in there, so I 67 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: didn't I was. I was in there probably ten minutes 68 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: before the Lakers came in there, and you know, I 69 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: watched them set set up everything, put the champagne out, 70 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: the beer, the goggles, the new championship T shirts. What 71 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 3: one thing that I found curious, Stein is that, you know, 72 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: the league was a little bit they were a little worried, 73 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: and they didn't know how the Lakers were going to 74 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: celebrate or if they were going to celebrate. And I 75 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: had to think about that. I'm like, well, I guess 76 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: it would be a bad look if the Lakers came 77 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: in here. Lebron just saw everything and it was like, oh, nah, 78 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: We're not doing this. I'm chasing championships. No, the Lakers 79 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: were We're bigger than this. This is not what it's about, 80 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: you know, I think, you know, the League were a 81 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 3: little they were a little bit concerned and worried that 82 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: they wouldn't go all out and celebrate. And so I 83 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: was like kind of looking and trying to you know, 84 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: see for myself. And so the first person to come in, 85 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: they gave us word that here come the Lakers, and 86 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: Lakers are coming, and so the door opens. Lebron James 87 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: the first one to come in. So he comes in 88 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: and then he looks at all the champagne and everything 89 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: and he was like like, oh ship, they got it 90 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: all out here. And so once he said that, he 91 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: went straight for the champagne you knew was on and 92 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: popper from there. So he he kind of greeted everybody 93 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: with like Dowson, him with Dowson, with champagnes and uh 94 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: so it you know, they they they I think, you know, 95 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: the videos and clips are out right now, and you 96 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: know they really you know, this was something that they 97 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: really took the heart. This was something that they understood 98 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: was a huge accomplishment and and it's it's you know, 99 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: noted that they're the inaugural champions, which is a big honor. 100 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, they they took it seriously and so I 101 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: think it was you know, one thing start you have 102 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: to think about this, like to have Lebron James embrace that, 103 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: you know, to brace this n Season Tournament championship That's 104 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: exactly what the league needed. You know, they just that image, 105 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: you know, those those video clips of seeing them celebrate 106 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: such a such an honor that I think that they 107 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: needed that to move forward. I think the league didn't 108 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: know what they were going to get. Yeah, if the 109 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: Lakers won, now the Pacers, for sure, the Pacers are 110 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: going to go all out, for sure, but you know, 111 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: they didn't know what they expect with the Lebron and 112 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: the Lakers. 113 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be honest, that was one of my personal 114 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: biggest sources of curiosity how the teams would react in 115 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: the moment. And I totally agree with you. I think 116 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: with the Pacers, there would have been no hesitation for 117 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the Pacers to win that thing and beat the Lakers 118 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: in the finals. You know, that would have been a 119 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: huge deal. But yeah, the Lakers. You know, look, we 120 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: still don't have official word. Will the Lakers hoist a banner? 121 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Adam Silver had a press conference Saturday evening before the game. 122 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: I was really hoping at that press conference that Adam 123 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: was going to be asked what he's expecting and would 124 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: he be disappointed if the Lakers didn't hoist a banner, 125 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Because as we've already been talking about on this pot cast. 126 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: The Lakers have seventeen NBA championship banners. They've won more 127 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: than thirty Pacific Division titles. They've won I think eighteen 128 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty conference championships total. But they don't hang banners 129 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: when they win the West. They don't hang banners when 130 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: they win the Pacific Division. And we're gonna have to 131 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: wait to see if they hang a banner for winning 132 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: the first n season tournament. But yeah, I think the 133 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: fact that the Lakers did celebrate this and did really 134 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: show a pretty high care factor to try to win 135 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: this thing, that's one of the huge Year one successes. 136 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: We don't know the ratings yet for Saturday's championship game. 137 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: I assume we will get those on Monday. They'll circulate 138 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: after this podcast drops. Monday Night and Thursday night the 139 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: TV ratings not surprisingly paled and compared garrison to what 140 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Monday Night football did. And obviously there's Thursday football to 141 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: contend with as well on Amazon. So you know, this 142 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: wasn't a The quarterfinals and semifinals were not a you know, 143 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: by no means a ratings bonanza for the NBA. But 144 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: I really do think and as someone who has been 145 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: quite critical about various aspects of the Year one format 146 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: that the NBA adopted. Here, I do think a big 147 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: measure of whether this succeeded or not in Year one 148 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: was how people within the league treated it. Did the 149 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: players accept it, did the teams embrace it? Do they 150 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: want to keep this thing going forward? Did they take 151 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: it seriously? And I think throughout the league we saw 152 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: that teams did care about this. And you'd have to 153 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: put the Lakers and the Pacers, frankly, right at the 154 00:09:54,720 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: top of the list. Those those two teams, they both 155 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: went after it hard and deservedly earned their spots in 156 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: the title game. And it's good to hear that after 157 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,359 Speaker 1: the game the Lakers were whooping it up and celebrating 158 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: because you know, on the court we saw Lebron he 159 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: got the championship hat, but he tossed it. Actually quite 160 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: an impressive toss to a d right on the number, 161 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: right on the numbers. But yeah, like I'm, I'm. The 162 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Lakers will be in Dallas Tuesday, Chris Haynes will be 163 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: in Dallas Tuesday. Big week for yours, Truly, I get 164 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: to see the Lakers, I get to see the seventeen 165 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: and four timber Wolves, and I get to see Chris 166 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Haynes all between Tuesday and Thursday. So it's a big 167 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: week for yours, truly, But I'm really eager to just 168 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: spend some time around the Lakers because now my curiosity 169 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: is are we going to talk about this at all 170 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: between now and the playoffs? Like how much will it 171 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: come up going forward that the Lakers won this thing? 172 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: Because you know, as we mentioned the last time you 173 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: and I got together for one of these pods, you know, 174 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: Lebron played fantastic throughout the seven games. I mean, his 175 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: numbers in this tournament were ridiculous. He basically averaged I 176 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: think twenty eight, nine and eight, shot better than fifty 177 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: percent from the field, shot better than sixty percent on 178 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: threes in the seven tournament games. He was super dialed in. 179 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: But I also remember him telling Ali Laforest, it's December 180 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: and we're not going to make too big a deal 181 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: about it. So I really I'm really looking forward to 182 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: seeing seeing a bunch of Laker people here on Tuesday 183 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: night and kind of like start to get a picture 184 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: of like does this you know, do we just put 185 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: this thing away? Now? Do we? 186 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: You? 187 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: Know how much how much N Season Tournament chatter will 188 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,119 Speaker 1: there really be between now and the playoffs. 189 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how much shadow they will be. 190 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: But you know, I spoke with D'Angelo Russells about it, 191 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: and he called it the n ceason tournament like a 192 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: cheat code where guys and get in an intense, you know, 193 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: an intense ballgame in early December, a type of intense 194 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: game that you wouldn't see until later on, you know, 195 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: in the season, during playoff time. So he feels like, 196 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: you know, being able to go into that mode, being 197 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: able to dig deep, you know. And one thing about 198 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 3: it too, like Stein, you know that coaches don't implement everything, 199 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: like they don't pull out like say, like I'll give 200 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: for an example a couple of years when Chris Paul 201 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: was playing for the Phoenix Suns. He didn't receive a 202 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 3: lot and this happens to him a lot, but he 203 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: doesn't receive a lot of pressure full court. You know, 204 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: teams aren't going to do that in the course of 205 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: the regular season until the playoffs come. Playoffs come, you 206 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: throw out everything, and you know, you all of a sudden, 207 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: you got multiple guys being thrown at you that's going 208 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: to pressure you the full ninety four feet. And even 209 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: look at Dame the Milwaukee Indiana Pacers game as soon 210 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: as Giannis went to the bench, because there's a substitution 211 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: pattern for Milwaukee when Jannis goes to the bench first 212 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 3: and then Dame leads the rest of the way, and 213 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 3: he just usually he goes off because now they're trying 214 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: to get him settled. And usually it's the horn offense, 215 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: two guys that come up for the screen, or maybe 216 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: one guy. But the Pacers trapped him in the first quarter. 217 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: They came and trapped him, got the ball out of 218 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: his hands in the first quarter. You don't see that 219 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: in the regular season. But since this is a high 220 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: intense game, this game matters. It's a severe significance. You're 221 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 3: seeing teams throw out everything. It's not another thing. I 222 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: want to say, you're going off with basketball, but it's 223 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 3: still basketball. By the way, you have Rick carl On 224 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: on your radio show not too long ago. Believe it 225 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: was last week Saturday Saturday. Okay, Star, what was the 226 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: last time you shook real Rick Carla's hand. 227 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny. We ended up on a flight this summer. 228 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: We both yeah, because because he still spends quite a 229 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: bit of time in Dallas. We ended up unexpectedly at 230 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: the airport together in Dallas in August flying to Vegas. 231 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: We had we were on the same flight to see 232 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: the start of Team USA camp because I couldn't stay 233 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: away from Team USA camp, and of course Tyrese Haliburton 234 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: was there. But I honestly don't remember. I don't remember 235 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: if we shook hands. 236 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: Or just well, you didn't. You wouldn't, You wouldn't you 237 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: would remember it if you did. Let me tell you this. 238 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: You know, the bro hug has become common, you know, 239 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: that's what we're used to bro hug, you know, yeah, 240 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: embrace with the pound type hug then and it's the 241 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: one arm you know, on on on the individual's back, 242 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: and it's you know, really not any there's not really 243 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: any struggle, there's not really any power that summoned in that. 244 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: It's a really light hug, a light embrace. So but 245 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: then every now and then there's certain people that you know, hey, 246 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: you know, you stend that hand and you go back 247 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: to the traditional handshake. I wasn't prepared for a Rick 248 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: Carlile handshakee My hand was hurting it was hurting. I 249 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: had to interview him pregame before the championship game, and 250 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: he gave me you know when you when you give 251 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: somebody that the regular traditional handshake, and you feel the 252 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: pressure and then you just think, oh, the pressure is 253 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: about to go away. No, the pressure intensified. He kept going. 254 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: It got he kept going to a point where I 255 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: thought it was personal, like like like like he was 256 00:15:55,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: really trying to I never did that the Rick. 257 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Maybe he thinks you're too close to Tim McMahon and 258 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: he didn't. 259 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: Like watching Tim. Tim has some words for you. Vegas 260 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: started watching. 261 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, man, I'm I got the same. 262 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure we got the same. I mean. 263 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: Tim, he'll he'll get over it. 264 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember, like like I said, I you know, 265 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: I just saw Rick in person in August. He was 266 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: on my radio show on Saturday. But I can't say 267 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: that I remember uncomfortable handshakes. 268 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: So my dad, my dad used to always talk about 269 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: how important it is for a man to have a 270 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: firm handshake. I used to remember as a key I 271 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: used to practice my handshakes, practice like trying to squeeze, uh, 272 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: you know, just show him he's a manly handshake. But 273 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: the bro hug, you know, the bro hug is pretty 274 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: common now. It's pretty common now, and it doesn't take 275 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: much squeezing effort. Matter of fact, it's kind of hard 276 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: to really put a good squeeze on the bro hood. 277 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: But Rick Carlout, he extended his hand traditional handshake. I 278 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: extended mine too, as you know. I had to give 279 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: him a handshake right before I do the interview and 280 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: stein that handshake. It was I haven't felt pain like 281 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: that in a wild man. 282 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: How is the interview? 283 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: Oh, interview is good. He was gold. He was gold. 284 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: No problem there, no problem there. So I don't know, 285 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if that was personal or 286 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: if that that's just a Rick carl out. 287 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check with some indie sources and see what 288 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: I can find. 289 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: Check on that, check on that. I think I've been 290 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 3: good to call out over the years. But no, but 291 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: it just it just reminded me that I gotta firm 292 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: up my handshake. I gotta get that back. 293 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, did you did it pop 294 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: into your head at any point Saturday night? We were 295 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: obviously neighbors and co residents in the Walt Disney World 296 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: Bubble in twenty twenty. Man, that was more than three 297 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: years ago now, But I was only there for fifty 298 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: odd days, if you remember, I was working at the 299 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: New York Times then, and the New York Times set 300 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: it up to where I did the first fifty or 301 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: so days in the bubble, and my former colleague and 302 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: teammate Scott Cassiola took over for the next thirty to 303 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: forty days. I don't remember exactly what the breakdown was, 304 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: but we split it up. We thought that was the 305 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: best way to tackle it. You, on the other hand, 306 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: were there for like one hundred plus days, and Spears 307 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: was there the whole time. Washburn was there the whole time. 308 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: You guys were really I mean you guys were there 309 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: almost twice as long as I was, so you really 310 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: really really spent a lot of time there. But you, 311 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: when you brought up that celebration stuff, it made me think, 312 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: I remember seeing footage of you in the hallway when 313 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: the Lakers won their Bubble championship in twenty twenty. I 314 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: was not there. You were, And now three years later, Yeah, 315 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: again it's a neutral site. 316 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 3: PTSD PTSD, So you did you did it? 317 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: Did cross your mind? 318 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: Yes? Because so one of the individuals that were that 319 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: was in that celebration room with me, Jessica Showbar and 320 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: you know Jessica longtime ESPN what what is her role 321 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: exactly sports and producer. She was in the bubble with us, 322 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: and I'm in this celebration room waiting and she's next 323 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: to me. I said, yes, I got I'm feeling something 324 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: right now. It's like PTSD man, don't you feel She's like, yeah, 325 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: I'm feeling it. Like yeah, so now you're right staring 326 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: like it. It had the it had similar vibes as 327 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: the bubble. I was nervous a little bit for a 328 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 3: little bit, you know, even though they were fans in 329 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: the arena this time it just had that feel because 330 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: even though like even though the you know, the Lakers, 331 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: like people try to take that or try to minimize 332 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 3: that championship. The Lakers won, which I I think is 333 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: dumb because everybody was there and trying to, you know, 334 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: do the same thing, and the Lakers came forth and 335 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: got it. But this the feel was like it was 336 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: like I guess because it was something new. This was different, right, 337 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 3: this was different. We're we're everybody's telling us how important 338 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: this championship is, but it just felt different. And I 339 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 3: think that's probably why I had that feel as well, 340 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: because it was all new. But yeah, definitely stein Man, 341 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: I found myself like wow, wondering, like, man, dude, I 342 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: have to stand six feet apart, you know, somebody like 343 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: it was really really. 344 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: It is it is, but it is crazy that. I mean, 345 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers now with these, you know, two neutral site championships, 346 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: and look, it has made me think because I'm you know, 347 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: you've heard you know, our poor listeners have heard me 348 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: why about this for weeks now, and you know, my 349 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: my take on the Ndcason tournament was that, you know, 350 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: it needs to all be single elimination. Let's take everybody 351 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: to Vegas. Let's do this thing in a week and 352 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: a half or two weeks. Let's just play the tournament straight. 353 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: But one of the things that I think people are 354 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: coming away with is maybe the neutral site is not 355 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: the best idea because the crowd for that quarter final 356 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: game when Indiana beat Boston at home, that crowd was 357 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: so good. And I think one of the things that 358 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: the league will be looking at going forward is do 359 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: we want to play these games at a neutral site 360 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: and Vegas is typically a place that everybody gets excited 361 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: about going. So, I mean, I think for the Semis 362 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: and finals, there definitely is a strong case we made 363 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: that this was a good idea and a good experiment 364 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: to do this way and that guys would want to 365 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: earn that. But beyond the carit of winning five hundred 366 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: k each if you're on the winning team and two 367 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: hundred k each if you're on the losing team in 368 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: the championship championship game, that there is some level of 369 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: appeal to you know, to getting a trip to Vegas. 370 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: But yeah, I have to, I have to, you know, 371 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: for my own I'm starting to again, I'm starting to 372 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: rethink things that I you know, I don't know if 373 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: doing this whole thing in a neutral site, I don't 374 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: know if it holds the same appeal for me as 375 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: it once did. 376 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and again, like the Lakers are just 377 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: the ideal draw for the you know, for this event 378 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: being in Vegas. If this is any other two teams, 379 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 3: is it a big draw in Las Vegas. All I 380 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: can speak on from my experience of watching was that 381 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: Bucks Pacers game. But you have to keep in mind 382 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: it was a Thursday game at two o'clock local time, 383 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: and so you're really not going to get much fan 384 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: traction anyways. But the fans that were there, it was 385 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: you know, the environment was was bad. You know, it 386 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: was bad. You know, it wasn't you know on May 387 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: bast it wasn't really a lot of loud sheering. I think, 388 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: you know, obviously you don't have a lot of Bucks fans, 389 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: you don't have a lot of Pacer fans there, So 390 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: you know, is it good? But does that even matter? 391 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 3: Maybe the TV product is the appeal for the league, 392 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 3: you know, because the players are playing hard, you're getting 393 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: a good product, right, You're getting a good product because 394 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: that money is important. 395 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, there were three games in Vegas. Obviously Lakers 396 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Pelicans was awful, but the other two games were. 397 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: Good, competitive games, Yeah they were. And so I don't know, like, 398 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: so when you're saying you're kind of rethinking the neutral 399 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: you're you're taking Vegas out of the equation and saying that. 400 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's more like it's more like this. I remain 401 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: convinced that the single elimination part is the sexy part 402 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: of this. That is the not that it's yeah, and 403 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: that's what's for this to have any kind of lasting value, 404 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: it's got to be different than what we already do. 405 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 1: The playoffs is four rounds of best of seven. So 406 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: I just think this tournament should be completely different, and 407 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: to me more single elimination is better. And if like, 408 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm convinced that the most fun format would be you 409 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: take the thirty teams. Maybe you give byes to only 410 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: two teams, the two teams that made the finals last year, 411 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: so Denver and Miami. They made the finals last year, 412 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: they get buys and the other twenty eight teams going 413 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: a hat. Let's mix up east. I want East and 414 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: West mixed up. We already keep East and West separate 415 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I don't want I would like to 416 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: see in the tournament. I would like to see it 417 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: mixed up. It would be It would be crazy if 418 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: they had a draw show and Okay, Denver and Miami 419 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: get buys, the other twenty eight teams go into a hat. 420 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Lakers and the Celtics have to 421 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: play each other early, because that's what comes out of 422 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: a hat. Like to me, these are the kinds of 423 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: things that would make it wild. 424 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: But would that be an neutral site or. 425 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Initially, I thought this should 426 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: be at a neutral site, like maybe you cut the 427 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: schedule down from eighty two games to seventy six games. 428 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Seventy six games is still close enough to eighty two. 429 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: Let's carve it out and then we don't. Let's just 430 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: cut the schedule down to seventy six games. Then we 431 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about because what the league is 432 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: worried about is it's making up the get when teams 433 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: go out of the tournament, how to put games back 434 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: on their schedule. And that's why they went with this 435 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: ultra safe thing of the first four games everybody plays 436 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: in this tournament are gonna be group games, but they're 437 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: just gonna be regular season games that count twice because 438 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: the league the scale and I'm not minimizing it. The schedule. 439 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: Doing the schedule for this past week was difficult. It 440 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: was a challenge for the league. And if there's more 441 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: single elimination, as I'm advocating for, it's gonna get even 442 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: more complicated. So that's what I'm saying, Maybe we need 443 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: to to make this tournament truly separate from the regular season, 444 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: because that's I believe it should be separate from the 445 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: regular season, completely separate. We're gonna you know, they're trying 446 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: to make this out to be the NBA's version of 447 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: soccer's FA Cup in England. The FA Cup is separate 448 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: from the league. Let's make this thing separate from the league. 449 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: So the only way to make it separate is to 450 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: shorten the eighty two game season a little bit, because 451 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: you don't want to make this longer. You don't want 452 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: to have them playing eighty two games and adding potentially 453 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: six or seven tournament games too, because these guys already 454 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: play too many games. So I know I'm making it 455 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: sound easier than it is, but that's I really believe 456 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: that those are that's where this thing eventually needs to 457 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: get to. 458 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna ask something else too, So that championship game, 459 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 3: as you know, that championship game is the only game 460 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: where the stats do not go into the regular season stats, 461 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: which I think it should because it's it would be. 462 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: So the Lakers going to play with one more official 463 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 3: They're gonna play one more game. They're gonna have an 464 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: a three game season, and I think if you make 465 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: it to the championship as a reward, you get an 466 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: extra game to pile up your stats. Now it can 467 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: go either it can go both ways. You could pile 468 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: up your stats or you could have hurt it, you know, 469 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: depending on what type of game. Yeah, but the game 470 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: that Anthony Davis just had. You know, I saw Lakers 471 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: and other people tweeting out a season high. Well it's 472 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: not really a season high. It doesn't count, you know. 473 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: I mean I retweeted out, I retweeted stat mus because 474 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis forty one points, twenty rebounds, five assists, and 475 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: status stat Muse tweets out the only forty twenty five 476 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 1: games in Laker history. It's Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, and 477 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: now Anthony Davis. But no, it's not because, no, the 478 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: that's from that game last night. They do not get 479 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: added to either the regular season or playoff resume. For 480 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. He that's as dominant a performance as Anthony 481 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: Davis has probably ever had, and it is now goes 482 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: it goes into this nebulous category. And it's the same 483 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: thing with the playing games. Those games don't get added 484 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: to your regular season or your playoff resume. So Jason 485 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: Tatum had that fifty point game against Washington two years ago, 486 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: and that's the same thing. It floats in this nebulous 487 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: zone that we don't know what to do with it, 488 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: and officially we don't know what to do with this 489 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: game that ad played, this game of his life. 490 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think for this because players I was 491 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 3: telling you that, like players during the regular season, like 492 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: that is their time, Like that's their sanctuary in which 493 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: they can pad their stats and produce. They don't want 494 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: to play game and November and December and not have 495 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: those games accounted for. And so you know, the play 496 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: in is one thing, but you know, like I just think, 497 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: I think as a reward, if you make it to 498 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: the championship game, that's a reward where you get an 499 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: extra game to produce, pad your stats and help out. 500 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 3: And I know fans may say, it's not all about 501 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: the stats, please please, these players care about the stats. 502 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: It's very important. It's very important to reach certain incentives 503 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: for triggers in their contract where they can get a boost. 504 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 3: So it is that important, and I don't think that's 505 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: too much to ask, Like, if you make it as 506 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: a reward, you get an extra game to try to 507 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: pile up more stats. 508 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: Did you get a chance last night to chat with 509 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: Ad at all. 510 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 3: No, I did, but not about that. We were asking, 511 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: you know, he had to grow that he suffered that 512 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: growing injury again, that was the same injury he had 513 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: earlier in the season. What else did we talk about? 514 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: Family stuff? Just family stuff. But you know I talked 515 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: to Lebron. He told me, like the n season tournament 516 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: that was, he felt like this was the perfect platform 517 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: for somebody like Cam Reddish And he said he happy 518 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: that Cam Reddish got this experience and not only got 519 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: this experience, but how he performed so the league can 520 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: see what type of dual player he is, he said, 521 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: because everybody was trying to write him off. He said, 522 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: now look what he's doing for us. And so you know, 523 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 3: he wanted me to talk to Cam, and I went 524 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: and spoke with Cam about you know, his resurgence and 525 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: you know, finally making his mark in the league. And 526 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: you know, he said, Lebron empowers him. He said, if 527 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: you got somebody like that in your corner, he said, 528 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: that gives you all the confidence in the world. So, 529 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: you know, some of the brief conversations I had with 530 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: Ad and Lebron after the game, but it was cool experience, 531 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: cool experience. 532 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm actually wondering. You know, it's hard to 533 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: talk about downsides when a guy just rumbled for forty 534 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: one twenty five assists and four steals. I think it was. 535 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, the problem now is, of course AD's many critics, 536 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: a few of whom, most notably work at your network. 537 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna expect this all the time now. I mean, 538 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: he's going to be measured against his own success for 539 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, for the rest of eternity. Yes, 540 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: because it's been this was the Ad that everyone has 541 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: been clamoring for. 542 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been that way for a while. Everybody was 543 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: waiting for Ad to take over the reins of the 544 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: Lakers from Lebron last few years. It hasn't quite gotten 545 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: to that point. He's had spurts all throughout his career, 546 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: but consistent consistency is what everybody is looking for. But hey, 547 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: you know what, even if Ad were to get a 548 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: bunch of criticism, it pales in comparison to what Zion 549 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: is receiving right now. I know we touched on Zion 550 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: last episode, but people are still going in on him, 551 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: and you know, he's another guy that you know is 552 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: going to until until he's playing at a consistent level, 553 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: He's going to get that criticism to the similar to 554 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: the similar standpoint of ad for different reasons, but very 555 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: much the same. 556 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: No, no question to me, how Zion responds to this 557 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: level of noise, the harshest criticism he's ever received. To me, 558 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: that's one of the stories of the season going forward. 559 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Because the Pelicans do have a lot of potential. This 560 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: is a Western Conference that is very deep, very crowded, 561 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: and the Pelicans have a lot of upward mobility potential. 562 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, Zion has to lead the way, and 563 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: you know he fell so are short of expectations and 564 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: acceptable performance in both the ist games this week. I'm 565 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: really curious to see what kind of answer he has 566 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: for his critics. 567 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: For sure. 568 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: By the way, since I brought up Orlando, the G 569 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: League Showcase is coming very soon December nineteenth through the 570 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: twenty second. I am booked to be there. It will 571 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: be my first trip back to Orlando since the Bubble 572 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: Summer of twenty twenty. I know I'm going to see 573 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: you this week. I'm excited to host you in my city. 574 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: I hope postgame maybe you'll be after your sideline interview 575 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: with the star from the winning team on Tuesday. I 576 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: hope you'll be cool with being seen in public with 577 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: me somewhere. But my other question is am I going 578 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: to see you at the g Leak Showcase? Because if 579 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: it was in Vegas, I know I would see you. 580 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: We always meet up there. But are you making a 581 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: return trip to Orlando? 582 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: No, not ready, I haven't. I haven't returned to Orlando 583 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: since I exited the bubble. 584 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: So no Nook, no g Leak Showcase. 585 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: Nah, I'm cool, I'm cool, I'm fine, I'm sad. I'm fine. Well, listen, 586 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 3: you had your opportunity to see me in Vegas for 587 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: the n Season tournament. I just you know, I would 588 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: say this time I would have went to kill two 589 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: birds with one stone. You know, I was thinking about 590 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: a walk there. 591 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: You go with the birds again. 592 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry everybody thinks that. Everybody think I'm just a bird, 593 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: a bird killed. 594 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: I don't. 595 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't know. Not anti bird participate. No, 596 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: I'm not anti bird and I don't participate. I just 597 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: I just happened to watch, you know. That was that 598 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: was it? But listen, you know, I Stan. You know, 599 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: I was thinking about, like, okay, g LEA showcases in 600 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 3: Orlando this year, I can take the family, we can 601 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 3: go to walk Disney World and then we can you know, 602 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: I can do that, so you know, everybody be happy 603 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: because I've been traveling a lot, right, and it was 604 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: you know, it's the worst part to travel a lot 605 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 3: during the holiday season. So I'm like, okay, well, that 606 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: way they can be satisfied. You know, nobody be mad 607 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: at me at the house. But then I realized, Stein, 608 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: I don't work at ESPN anymore. I don't have those 609 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: family discounts. And I said that that that is going 610 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 3: to you know, walk Disney World, that'll be a pretty 611 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: penny for my family of six. So you know what, Stein, 612 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: I'll pass. I'll skip this year's G League showcase. It 613 00:35:59,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: wasn't meant to be. 614 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: All right, well, I will try to hold it down 615 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 1: for you. There's even there's even a heat magic game 616 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of all that that I'm gonna get 617 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: to go to. And I haven't been to a magic game. 618 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: I can't even remember the last time I was in 619 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: a magic game in Orlando. So and you know, all 620 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: I'll say is again. I don't want to jinx it, 621 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: but we are efforting a special guest from the Orlando 622 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: Magic on this podcast very very soon. That's all I'll say. 623 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm pretty I'm pretty confident that's gonna happen. But I 624 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: think where we're gonna leave it tonight Slash Today the 625 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: coolest thing I saw to see Bronnie James make his 626 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: college debut was very moving. I've made this comment before. 627 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: I can't help it. I'm such a sentimental sap that, 628 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, even though Lebron is having this absolute turn 629 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: back the clock season, you know, Saturday, the night he 630 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: wins MVP in the nd season tournament, was exactly three 631 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: weeks away from his thirty ninth birthday, So, I mean, 632 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: what he's doing on the court is ridiculous. But Lebron 633 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: James the dad is pretty much my favorite Lebron at 634 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: this point. I love watching how into his kids' lives 635 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: and careers he is. And obviously with the just terrible 636 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: health situation that Bronni endured just a few months ago, 637 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: and to be able to come back so quickly and 638 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: make his college debut tonight was well, I mean, look, Lebron, 639 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: Lebron put Lebron posted this, and you know you can 640 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: totally get why he felt this way. Quote. Can't even 641 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: tell y'all how emotional today was for me. I'm literally drained, 642 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: and all I can say is, Bronni, You're simply incredible. 643 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: Damn the wins and losses that will occur. You've already 644 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,479 Speaker 1: won the Ultimate Goal Championship and that's life. Proud of you, kid, 645 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: and today you've given me more life. Thank you, and 646 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: I love you. And yeah, it was, it was, it was. 647 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: It was a pretty cool scene to. 648 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: Watch now, most definitely when you're thinking about just what 649 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 3: Bronni has been through, what Lebron and his families have 650 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 3: been through. You know, we didn't know if he would 651 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 3: get to this point. That's a scary That was a 652 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: scary health concern. You know a lot of people don't 653 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 3: get to come back and and play at a level 654 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 3: like that, so and especially that soon. So you know, 655 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 3: I was definitely a cool sighting seeing him out there. 656 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 3: I saw his first you know, college you know, bucket 657 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 3: transition three. That's cool. And you know, bron Man, he's uh, 658 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 3: you know, he's a proud dad. He was you know, 659 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: he's not shy of he's not shy and showing that 660 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 3: as well. So that's that's pretty cool to see. So 661 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 3: I wish Bronnie nothing but the best man. I've seen 662 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 3: those kids since they were man under ten, so I 663 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 3: think I started covering Lebron twenty fourteen, so yeah, about 664 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: ten years ago. So yeah, they were both under they're 665 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: both under ten when I first met him. 666 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: I remember when Bronnie was born. I was at Cavs camp, 667 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: and I remember Lebron was being pressed for questions because 668 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: everyone knew he was about to become a father, but 669 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: he at that point he really didn't want to say 670 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: too much publicly. And I remember in a media scrum 671 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: he was asked about Bronnie and what are you going 672 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: to name him? And he said Brian Winnhurst James. And 673 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: so for years I used to call I used to 674 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: call Windy Brian Winhurst James. That I remember, and I 675 00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: remember sports Dad. Best job in the world, no doubt 676 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: about it. All right, everyone that is going to do 677 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: it for this edition of this League Uncut. As always, 678 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: if you can indulge us, please remember to rate, review, 679 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: and subscribe to the show if you already haven't. As stated, 680 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: we are working on a special guest from New Orlando 681 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: Magic that will hopefully happen very soon. Chris and I 682 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: will indeed be together at the same game, Lakers at 683 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: Dallas on TNT on Tuesday night. Where that leads this 684 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 1: podcast next, I cannot tell you. I'm not sure yet. 685 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: We'll have to see, We'll have to see what the 686 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: recording schedule is after our special interview. But we're off 687 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: to a good start this week and we'll have more 688 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: soon and we'll be back with me again soon. Everyone, 689 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: take it easy, thanks for listening. 690 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 2: And that'll do it for us. See you next time. 691 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: This League uncutage an iHeartRadio production. 692 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: Lock up 693 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 2: Chris Haynes and Mark Stein