WEBVTT - There Can't Be 2 Funny Guys!!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty and now he Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>I do hope and believe that the vote today is

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<v Speaker 3>a very strong signal to the markets, to investors, job creators, entrepreneurs,

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<v Speaker 3>the people that make the economy run, that the Congress

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<v Speaker 3>is going to get us on stout sound footing. And

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<v Speaker 3>you can count on that and you can bet on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the auto I think today wud be a great

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<v Speaker 3>day to buy stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaker Johnson, Congress is going to get us on sound footing. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>that would be something we'd like to welcome to the

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong and Getty show. Our old friend David Dructor, who've

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<v Speaker 4>been talking to four years, who is now with The Dispatch.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear him on a regular basis, senior writer at

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<v Speaker 4>the Dispatch, on various TV appearances and Dispatch podcasts which

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<v Speaker 4>I hear weekly. It says here David, when Drugger is

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<v Speaker 4>not covering American politics for the Dispatch, he enjoys hanging

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<v Speaker 4>out with this two boys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nice.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I do too. And listening to his wife's

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<v Speaker 4>excellent taste in music. Did you write this?

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<v Speaker 1>I did write it, But it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's interesting that so she have a particularly good taste

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<v Speaker 4>and you just sit in there, you sit down and

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<v Speaker 4>listen to it in your make.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be clear, even if she have bad taste, she

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<v Speaker 1>was sure run the music of the family I understand

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<v Speaker 1>to have. But if she has to have extremely good

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<v Speaker 1>taste of music.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool. How old are your kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Our oldest turns thirteen on Monday, and our youngest, our

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<v Speaker 1>other boy, will be tennis a while.

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<v Speaker 4>I have two boys in there, thirteen and fifteen, and

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<v Speaker 4>I have just started into the whole teenage thing, which,

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<v Speaker 4>like you've learned, as I learned with all of parenting,

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<v Speaker 4>every phase is completely different and practically none of your

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<v Speaker 4>skills from the last phase are of any use.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the first things that I realized

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<v Speaker 1>some years ago, was it just when you figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to do it right, they change and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn all over again.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I know how to handle a baby, Okay, I know

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<v Speaker 4>how to handle a toddler. Okay, I know how to

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<v Speaker 4>handle a four year old, But then they're not that anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>and so yeah, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you probably said.

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<v Speaker 4>This last year. I know lots of pundits. Did man

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<v Speaker 4>Trump gets elected? The biggest story first year? Get ready

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<v Speaker 4>for this. It's going to be all about the Trump

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<v Speaker 4>tax cuts and whether they're renewed or not. This is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the biggest political story in America. Everybody

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<v Speaker 4>will be talking about it. Well, we haven't been talking

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<v Speaker 4>about it because Trump has been doing so many different

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<v Speaker 4>things doge and now tariffs and everything like that that

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<v Speaker 4>get all the attention. We haven't been talking about this,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's still been kind of burblin behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell us where we are with all of this legislation, Well, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean it gets kind of into the weeds. But in

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<v Speaker 1>order to take advantage of this process called record faciliation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a limited legislative process in Congress that allows

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<v Speaker 1>you to avoid a filibuster in the Senate, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to get the House and the Senate to agree on

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<v Speaker 1>what's called a budget resolution, which provides the contours of

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<v Speaker 1>taxation and spending and spending cuts but doesn't sell any

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<v Speaker 1>of the blanks. But first you have to get the

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<v Speaker 1>two chambers to agree on the top line numbers. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna We're going to cut one hundred and five

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<v Speaker 1>trillion in spending, I think is what's in this budget

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<v Speaker 1>resolution that finally passed the House after passing the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to cut taxes of this much. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know all these numbers in my head, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>spend this much. And so then once you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>then the committees you know the ways it means committee,

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<v Speaker 1>Energy and Commerce, Committee or whatever you know in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>the Finance Committee and whatever, all the committees of jurisdiction

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<v Speaker 1>can then go about processing actual detailed legislation with all

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, and then you know the plan is, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is how it's worked in the past. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to a point where the party that's running

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<v Speaker 1>the reconciliation bill, because both parties have used this process,

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<v Speaker 1>they agree and then they run votes, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>opposition cries foul and then it passes. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things about reconciliation is you can't just

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<v Speaker 1>do anything right, can't You can't just do any policy

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<v Speaker 1>and have to have taxing and bending implications.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a judge on this, like somebody are paneled?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a part, there's a parliamentarian in the House

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<v Speaker 1>and a parliamentarian in the Senate. Of course, the House

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate can overrule their parliamentarian to some degree.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in two thousand and nine, when the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>lost their super majority in the Senate, there's sixty of

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<v Speaker 1>vote because Scott Brown was elected to Kennedy who had

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. It looked like Democrats may not be able

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<v Speaker 1>to finish the process of passing the legislation that we

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<v Speaker 1>call Obamacare, and instead they just basically stretched the limits

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<v Speaker 1>of what reconciliation was able to do. Under Perry Reads leadership,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the majority leader, and they passed it even

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<v Speaker 1>though they didn't have sixty votes. And when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have sixty votes, all you need is fifty one or

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<v Speaker 1>a simple majority. However that works out, the vice president

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<v Speaker 1>can you be the tie breaking vote. So listen, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always thought that they would get the reconciliation build on

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other, especially given Trump's standing in

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party. But Trump, as he likes to do,

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<v Speaker 1>finds other ways to sideline what should be his best

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<v Speaker 1>and biggest story, and that's by his ill fated attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to reshape global trade, which was never going to work

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<v Speaker 1>out the way he wanted it to. Still won't work

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<v Speaker 1>out the way he wants it to, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>caused the market's pain. But when the markets have pain,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody who used to run a small business,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you small businesses end up having pain

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<v Speaker 1>because Main Street is inextricably linked to Wall Street. People

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<v Speaker 1>may not think they're invested, but their pensions are, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, their four on one ks are, the retirement

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<v Speaker 1>counts are, and people have pensions, they have retirement accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>It also, you know, impacts treasury bonds, meaning you know

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<v Speaker 1>the price of debt that the US government sells, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that impacts interest rates. So even if you have

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<v Speaker 1>no money in the market but you want a car

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<v Speaker 1>loan or a mortgage for a home, I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>just no way around it, right, There's no protection from

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. So that's why we haven't been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this because Trump decided he didn't want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, does he feel like it's to his advantage

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<v Speaker 4>to not be talking about the whole renew and the

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<v Speaker 4>taxes and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. But even for Trump, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it seems illogical, but you know he has his I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn'tlected president twice, and he's a really good politician

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how he's going to cut taxes for average Americans,

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<v Speaker 1>which which is what is in this bill, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody focuses on the income tax cuts, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the funny thing about the tax bill, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what they want to do is sort of make the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump tax cuts from the first term, right, pre bide

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<v Speaker 1>and permanent. And Democrats did a really good job of

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<v Speaker 1>convincing people these were all tax cuts for the rich,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually a lot of middle class and lower class

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<v Speaker 1>Americans receive tax benefits. Some people don't even pay income

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<v Speaker 1>taxes anymore because of the first Trump tax bill and

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<v Speaker 1>this new bill, you know, no taxes on tips, no

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<v Speaker 1>taxes on Social Security income. I believe you want to

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<v Speaker 1>put a measure in there that says, if you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are financing an American made car, you can write off

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<v Speaker 1>the interest. So there's all this stuff in there for

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<v Speaker 1>regular people so called. And you know, people may complain

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<v Speaker 1>about the capital gains cuts, but you know, cutting capital

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<v Speaker 1>gains is really good for an investment, which means people

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<v Speaker 1>can invest in things that resulted more jobs and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy people buying products and things that middle class people

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<v Speaker 1>are building. So I don't see why Trump wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about this. But he has always liked Paris,

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<v Speaker 1>he has always believed. He doesn't believe many things, but

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<v Speaker 1>he believes a few things. And this thing with trade

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<v Speaker 1>he's believed going back to the nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've played the clips of him on Oprah or

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<v Speaker 4>Letterman or wherever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the thing is, you know, if anybody thought

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't going to do this, they were just silly,

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<v Speaker 1>because all you have to do is listen to what

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<v Speaker 1>he said and understand that if he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be re elected after everything that went on at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the first term and in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the first and second term, exactly why was he going

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<v Speaker 1>to show up and feel hesitant to do what he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I wouldn't be if I was in That's what

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<v Speaker 4>I've been talking about my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's common sense. It's but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are a lot of Republican donors and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people that supported him, and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sell us and I understand you know, totally makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense him over eris, you know, on balance. But the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you didn't build in what he's done in

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<v Speaker 1>the past couple of weeks or the past couple of months, really,

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<v Speaker 1>that you didn't build into the price of admission what

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<v Speaker 1>this might cost you. I mean, that just shows you

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<v Speaker 1>that even people with money aren't always that bright.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna throw out as a trivia question earlier

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<v Speaker 4>today just because it's extraordinary, how much has been going

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<v Speaker 4>on in the last couple of months.

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<v Speaker 2>How long has Trump been president?

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<v Speaker 4>Today is day eighty two, eighty two days he's been president,

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<v Speaker 4>and it seems like it's been years of stories and reporting.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>David Drucker of The Dispatch here, Hey, you said you

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<v Speaker 4>were you were a small business owner.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your business?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this goes back thirty years ago. But my my

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<v Speaker 1>family owned a sales and marketing firm, and we also

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<v Speaker 1>manufactured window covering like vertical blinds.

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<v Speaker 2>And shade and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was a part owner along with them. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a very small firm. We didn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of investment capital, really have any investment capital. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really very I made so many mistakes that after about

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<v Speaker 1>seven years of doing it and not doing that well,

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<v Speaker 1>I finally figured out how to not make mistakes anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I started to think about whether I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do that thing for the next forty years, and

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<v Speaker 1>I devided I did not. My parents' side of the

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<v Speaker 1>business has always the very successful side. My side was

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<v Speaker 1>the manufacturing side, light manufacturing, distribution, things like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, I understand the impact of government regulations.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand inventory and waste, and competition from overseas and competition,

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<v Speaker 1>domestic competition, you know all of that, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it helps inform I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I'm amazed by uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always had so much respect and awe for people

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<v Speaker 4>who start a small business and then run it and

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<v Speaker 4>make a success out of it and everything you got

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<v Speaker 4>to pour into it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, it really is. And those are probably the

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<v Speaker 1>people I still admire most are people that do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to read about how they went from nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to something. And you know, I you know, especially people

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<v Speaker 1>you know that are not And this is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there. Every kind of success I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a great success, but people that that just didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any investment capital because the industry, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>too competitive or it's just not the kind of industry

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<v Speaker 1>that creates that sort of feed and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, beg barrow and steal to get it started.

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<v Speaker 1>And and there's such a talent for running a business.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a talent in managing people. And you can take

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<v Speaker 1>all the business classes in the world and it really

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<v Speaker 1>does help to at least understand profit and loss and

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that. But this other stuff, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>an art form.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, Yeah, I'm amazingly impressed. And that's cool that you

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<v Speaker 4>did that. I understand now where you're coming from on

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<v Speaker 4>some of the things you talk about and write about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we got to take we gotta be done because we're

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<v Speaker 4>up against our break. But just as quickly as you can.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think most of the Trump tax cuts from

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<v Speaker 4>the first term do become permanent?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I mean I think they'll get reconciliation in

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other. Yeah, they might have to.

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<v Speaker 1>It may not work out exactly the way they want,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'll they'll they'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool. Well, thank you, David Drucker. Enjoy those boys and

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<v Speaker 2>your wife's music.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a lot more on the way of different stripes.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to get back to the New York Times

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<v Speaker 4>story that I brought you last hour. If you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what it is, stick around. I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 4>a short version of it because it's too disgusting and

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<v Speaker 4>that would be unfair. But that's on the way, among

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<v Speaker 4>other things, stay right here, get over.

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<v Speaker 6>This week released an annual list of items customers left

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<v Speaker 6>behind in their cars, and there's some incredible stuff of

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<v Speaker 6>Some of the belonging these passengers left in their ubers

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<v Speaker 6>include a madeqan head had a chainsaw, a ghost trap

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<v Speaker 6>from Ghostbusters.

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<v Speaker 2>Shrek ears, a urinal.

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<v Speaker 6>Someone left a bottle of fresh breast milk, which I

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<v Speaker 6>have two questions for that.

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<v Speaker 2>How do they know his breast milk?

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<v Speaker 6>And more concerningly, how did they know what was fresh?

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<v Speaker 4>A chainsaw, a mannequin head? Maybe those two things went together.

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So I started into this story last hour, didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>time to get a.

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<v Speaker 2>Few more of the details. So I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to do that now.

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<v Speaker 4>And as Byron new York said in the Washington Examiner,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a story from the New York Times. The

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times seems to be worried that subway necrophilia

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<v Speaker 4>will make the city look bad. Necrophilia of courses people

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<v Speaker 4>who for some reason like the idea of this is

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<v Speaker 4>not for the kids or the queenish. Nope, having sex

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<v Speaker 4>with a dead body, which I'm not as concerned about

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<v Speaker 4>my corpse being defiled as some people are.

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<v Speaker 2>Once I'm dead, do whatever you want with me, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's up to you, but I don't feel

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<v Speaker 4>like it has anything to do with my life anyhow.

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<v Speaker 4>It's weird to want to do that. The living person

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<v Speaker 4>is the focus. That's where my concern is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, I'm about to sneeze. Oh oh oh, no, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>went away.

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<v Speaker 4>Police seek man who they say violated a corpse on

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<v Speaker 4>the R train. And it's got a picture of the subway,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know what the subway looks like. New York

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<v Speaker 4>subways have been the subject of debate, with politicians using

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<v Speaker 4>them to paint the city is out of control and

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<v Speaker 4>dangerous to residents and visitors.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have this story.

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<v Speaker 4>The police were searching on Thursday for a man investigators

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<v Speaker 4>believe violated a dead man Wednesday night on a train

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<v Speaker 4>in a Manhattan subway station. According to an internal police document,

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<v Speaker 4>the person who died, I guess you can die anywhere,

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<v Speaker 4>But this guy got on the R train at eight

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<v Speaker 4>o'clock at night. According to a law enforcement official with

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<v Speaker 4>knowledge of the mas, he had watched the videos because

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<v Speaker 4>they got cameras in all the subways. It was unclear

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<v Speaker 4>when or how the person died. A man entered the

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<v Speaker 4>same empty train car at around eleven. Within forty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 4>the man saw the dead man, then began to rummage

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<v Speaker 4>through his pockets. Then the man began to have sex

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<v Speaker 4>with the body. According to the video and the official documents,

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<v Speaker 4>the sexual acts were captured on surveillance cameras inside the

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<v Speaker 4>train car. Soon after, the man got off the train

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<v Speaker 4>and fled. Well that was good luck for me, wasn't it,

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<v Speaker 4>he thought, and got off the train. The police on

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<v Speaker 4>Thursday released images of the man. He had a goateee man.

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<v Speaker 4>Never trust somebody of the goates, Oh boy, carrying a

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<v Speaker 4>black backpack and wearing a yellow hooded sweatshirt, a black

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<v Speaker 4>puffer jacket and a blue Dodgers baseball cap.

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers fans, Yeah, i'd see.

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<v Speaker 4>I shouldn't say that, I know a couple of Dodgers

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<v Speaker 4>fans who would punch me in the face for that joke.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the part I like.

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<v Speaker 4>The episode occurred as New York City subways had become

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<v Speaker 4>the subject of a national debate about poor governance. Bah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. So again, the New York Times seems

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<v Speaker 4>to think that people dying on the trail, if you

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<v Speaker 4>die on the train by accident, somebody is gonna sex

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<v Speaker 4>up your dead body. They think that's a bad look

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<v Speaker 4>for the subway system, and they're concerned about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's the ripple effects. Now, let's just copycat crimes. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, what are the chance that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>think there'd be one in a million chants that this

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<v Speaker 4>could happen, that you would come across a human being

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<v Speaker 4>who wouldn't think, oh my god, is that person okay?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, go try to wake them up, figure out

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<v Speaker 4>their dead immediately, call nine to one one or first stop.

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<v Speaker 4>You're screaming to the you know, some official, I've got

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<v Speaker 4>a dead bit. No you think, all right, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 4>guy sprinted in the opposite direction from what you just described. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope they catch a guy and interview him that's

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<v Speaker 4>so crazy, and you got you gotta lock him up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I was gonna say lock him up forever, but well,

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<v Speaker 2>they've made contact with his brother, so they're on their way.

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<v Speaker 2>They figured out who his brother is. Yeah, apparently this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's identifying the.

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<v Speaker 4>Did his brother know that his sibling was a corpse

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<v Speaker 4>blanker story?

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<v Speaker 5>Dickens, Yeah, Armstrong and Geeddy.

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<v Speaker 7>Sanctuary cities are sanctuary for criminals, bottom line, that's who

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<v Speaker 7>we're concentrating on, arresting the priorities public safety threads and

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<v Speaker 7>national security threads. For any elected official to tell his

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<v Speaker 7>police officers not to help us remove public safety treads

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<v Speaker 7>from his community, which he's responsible for, is just sickening.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>You probably recognize the voice of Tom Holman there and

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<v Speaker 4>talking about sanctuary cities. Trump had a tweet or truth

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<v Speaker 4>that he put out yesterday that he's coming after sanctuary

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<v Speaker 4>city's going to cut the federal funding. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 4>will be challenged. It'll get to the Supreme Court finally,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope. But it's another one of those issues that

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<v Speaker 4>the Democratic Party seems to be on the wrong side of.

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<v Speaker 4>A eighty twenty or seventy thirty issue, which brings me

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<v Speaker 4>to wanting to talk to long Heat. He's a David

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<v Speaker 4>and Diane Stephi Fellow at an American Public Policy Study

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<v Speaker 4>Studies at the Hoover Institution and the Director of Domestic

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<v Speaker 4>Policy Studies at Stanford University, Lana. He got more Republican

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<v Speaker 4>votes a couple cycles ago when he ran for comptroller

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<v Speaker 4>in California than any Republican in the entire country, including

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<v Speaker 4>Ron DeSantis, which is amazing, Lanai. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 4>Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Jack, thanks for having me again and speaking to DeSantis.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is where I want to go with Gavin

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<v Speaker 4>Newsom's prospects for running for president and my main question

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<v Speaker 4>that I've had for quite a while now, and you

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<v Speaker 4>might be the perfect person to answer it.

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<v Speaker 2>But this headline right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Florida teacher is first to be fired for using students

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<v Speaker 4>preferred name without parents consent.

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<v Speaker 2>In Florida, where they have a law the teacher.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't call Jimmy Jane in class just because the student

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<v Speaker 4>wants that without talking to the parents about it, the

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<v Speaker 4>opposite of what the law is in California, where the

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<v Speaker 4>schools are not allowed to contact the parents and I

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<v Speaker 4>was just wondering, do you think Gavin Newsom can run

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<v Speaker 4>for president being on the twenty side of an eighty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty issue like this and many others.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just one example.

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<v Speaker 5>It is just one example. You're right. I think what

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<v Speaker 5>will be interesting is Gavin Newsom's effort to reinvent himself.

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<v Speaker 5>And the reason I say that is because if I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, Jack you have you listened to the guy's

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<v Speaker 5>podcast or have you? I mean, all of this sort

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<v Speaker 5>of effort to make himself into a reasonably minded, more

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<v Speaker 5>moderate Democrat is interesting. It's politically expedient given the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that the Democratic Party remains really without leadership. If you

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<v Speaker 5>look at the structure as well as the nature of

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<v Speaker 5>the different things that Democrats are saying, there really isn't

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<v Speaker 5>a national leader. So you can't blame Gavin Newsom for

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<v Speaker 5>trying to step into that vacuum. You know, I said

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<v Speaker 5>recently on television that politics ab whoors a vacuum, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think what you're seeing now are efforts on the

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<v Speaker 5>parts of different Democrats to try and take that leadership mantle. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, frankly, how effective it will be. To me,

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<v Speaker 5>it comes off as very disingenuous and somewhat comical the

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<v Speaker 5>degree to which Gavin Newsom is trying to remake himself.

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<v Speaker 5>Now that having been said, there is room for a

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<v Speaker 5>more moderate Democrat, somebody who's governed divererning experience, and he's

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<v Speaker 5>trying to fit that mold. Now, the question is whether

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<v Speaker 5>his reinvention will be successful. But I think that's what

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<v Speaker 5>he's trying to do, and he's trying to make people

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<v Speaker 5>forget how many times to your point, precisely, he has

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<v Speaker 5>been on the twenty percent side of the eighty twenty issue.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's not just on this one, Jack, There's a

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<v Speaker 5>whole bunch of ways, whether it's on extreme environmental policies,

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<v Speaker 5>extreme policies to dampen business creation and job creation, policies,

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<v Speaker 5>to put in place a socialist health care all of

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<v Speaker 5>these ways well.

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason that the reason that I played the

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<v Speaker 4>sanctuary city clip to you, to combine those two things,

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<v Speaker 4>the transition and the sanctuary city thing, he's way out

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<v Speaker 4>of line with the American people.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I mean I think you know, in politics,

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<v Speaker 5>one of the things you can be sure of is

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<v Speaker 5>that people will be made a weird. Opponents will make

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<v Speaker 5>people aware of your record, and I think that he can. Trial.

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<v Speaker 5>He wants to rebuild himself and re architect himself, but

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he is who he is. And it goes

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<v Speaker 5>back to having been mayor of San Francisco all the

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<v Speaker 5>time he's been governor until the last six months or

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<v Speaker 5>last three months, when he's trying to cozy f to

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<v Speaker 5>President Trump and to do various other things that make

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<v Speaker 5>him seem more moderate. To me at least, I think

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<v Speaker 5>it won't work. But I've seen weird things before in politics.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you never, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're the perfect person to ask this because you've

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<v Speaker 4>been involved in campaigns of Romney's campaign and he got

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<v Speaker 4>the nomination Marco Rubio's campaign and he didn't get the

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<v Speaker 4>nom You have to get the nomination first, And that's

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<v Speaker 4>what I have to keep reminding myself is that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you got the general election play, but you got to

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<v Speaker 4>get the nomination in a party that you saw how

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<v Speaker 4>everybody came after Gavin when in that first episode of

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<v Speaker 4>his podcast, he kind of he didn't even make a

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<v Speaker 4>bold statement, He just kind of hinted that maybe he

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't all in on dudes participating in girls' sports and

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<v Speaker 4>he got killed by the left.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he did get killed by the left, and he

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<v Speaker 5>got killed by a lot of activist groups on the left,

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<v Speaker 5>as well as activist members of the left who make

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<v Speaker 5>up a disproportionate percentage of participants in Democratic primaries when

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<v Speaker 5>we begin to get to the voting around twenty twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 5>obviously a long time between now and the start of

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty eight, so a lot can change. But I

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<v Speaker 5>do think that this is always the challenge in American

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<v Speaker 5>politics of how do you navigate between getting through a

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<v Speaker 5>primary and winning a general election? To your point, the

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<v Speaker 5>dynamics are really different in one electorate versus another.

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<v Speaker 4>Can he get then, so all the polling shows Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>are crying out for like a moderate candidate, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a left of center Democrat. Can can you get the

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<v Speaker 4>nomination in the current Democratic Party as that person just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of like not having a name attached

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<v Speaker 4>to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a million dollar question. I mean, can can

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<v Speaker 5>basically can you repeat what Joe Biden did? Because us

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<v Speaker 5>remember Joe Biden was sort of the moderate Democrat when

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 5>when he had hard to remember now twenty hard to remember.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's like ancient history, right, it was just

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<v Speaker 5>five years ago, you know, I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 5>some of it's going to depend on on how the

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<v Speaker 5>midterms go in twenty six and the degree to which

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<v Speaker 5>there continues to be this overarching If the overarching narrative

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<v Speaker 5>in the Democratic Party continues to be let's define our

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<v Speaker 5>success by opposition to Donald Trump, I have a tough

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<v Speaker 5>time seeing how moderates do well in that in that setting.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason I bring up the midterm elections is because

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<v Speaker 5>I think if Democrats do reasonably well in the midterms,

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<v Speaker 5>and let's say reasonably well or better than expected, that

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<v Speaker 5>might relieve some of the pressure there will be to

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<v Speaker 5>have a more extreme left candidate. I think if they

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<v Speaker 5>don't do well for some reason in the midterms, it

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<v Speaker 5>is going to force this is a little bit ironic,

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<v Speaker 5>and this might be counterintuitive. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>force the Democrat base even further left, and that is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be a problem if people are trying to

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<v Speaker 5>run the gamut by going through the middle. So I

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<v Speaker 5>mean these dynamics, I think there's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 5>in play. A lot of things are very very fluid

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<v Speaker 5>between now and then, but these are some of the

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<v Speaker 5>things I would watch out for, watch out for the

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<v Speaker 5>mid term performance. I'd watch out for how much of

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<v Speaker 5>that Democrat messaging continues to be anti Trump. And then

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<v Speaker 5>I would look and see what other politicians are doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at Gretchen and Whitmer. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 5>guys talked about Greshen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan who

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<v Speaker 5>found herself in the Oval office earlier this week, and

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump actually praised her, and she actually had some

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<v Speaker 5>nice things to say about him that might tell you

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit about where the party is headed and

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<v Speaker 5>the degree to which it's leaders believe they have to

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<v Speaker 5>be more moderate.

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<v Speaker 4>Can i do three yes no questions, and then I'll

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 4>ask you like an essay question. Out of the yes

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<v Speaker 4>no questions, the first one Gavin Newsom going to run

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<v Speaker 4>for president yes or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay. Kamala Harris going to run for president, yes

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<v Speaker 2>or no no. Kamala Harris going to run for governor

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<v Speaker 2>yes or no? Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's going to run for governor in California. New

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<v Speaker 4>York Times had a story the other day that wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest for Kamala Harris because it mentioned, for instance,

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<v Speaker 4>that big Wisconsin vote a week ago for the Supreme

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<v Speaker 4>Court justice, the state Supreme Court justice. They Wisconsin Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want her in the state in an election they

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<v Speaker 4>had to win.

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<v Speaker 2>That's painful. Where does that leave her?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it leaves her in California, And that's why I

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<v Speaker 5>think that you know, she still has First of all,

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<v Speaker 5>in politics, the greatest gift you can have is that

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<v Speaker 5>people recognize your name. And we've seen that over and

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<v Speaker 5>over again. And you know, regardless of how people feel

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 5>about Kamala Harris, people recognize her name, certainly in California,

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<v Speaker 5>So she starts off with a huge intrinsic advantage in

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<v Speaker 5>that respect. I think the other question is, when you

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<v Speaker 5>are a sort of you know, washed up candidate, what

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<v Speaker 5>do you do right? I mean, do you It's not

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<v Speaker 5>like she's got some deep well of private sector experience

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<v Speaker 5>where she can go back to life and career in

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<v Speaker 5>the private sector. Naturally, the sort of thinking gravitates toward politics,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I would think that as she looks at California,

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<v Speaker 5>she sees a tremendous political opportunity here A because she

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 5>remains reasonably popular. B because everyone knows who she is

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 5>and see because can you name any of the other

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats who are running in that primary for governor? I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>you can probably do a jack Many of your listeners

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<v Speaker 5>can probably do it. But I'll tell you something. If

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 5>you go around California and you just show up at

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.360
<v Speaker 5>the Safeway and you ask people, hey, uh elany Cunelacus,

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 5>they may say, hey, do I find her on Aisle five?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's just it's just not one of those

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 5>things where people have a huge amount of recognition. So

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 5>she can step into that contest, God, I just instantly

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 5>be competitive.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't know if I can live in

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<v Speaker 4>a state where Kamala Harris is a governor and Adam

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Shift's one of the senators.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know if I can handle that. I

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<v Speaker 2>might have to start in Nevada.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, you you're you're believe me, You're

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 5>not the only one. So I just I just think

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 5>that there is a I mean, let's be let's be

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<v Speaker 5>clear about this. That the pathway for her to become

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 5>governor of California, I think is a lot more reasonable

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 5>and and sort of easy to define than any other

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 5>political pathway she might have in the in the in

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 5>the near future. So we just have to be aware

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 5>of the fact that in the reality of politics, this

0:27:58.000 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 5>is a great opportunity for her.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know you're not the kind of person that

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<v Speaker 4>would answer this question. Really, but do you think she's dumb?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I'm not. That's more than I.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's I don't think it's you know, look,

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 5>people have, people are smart in different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, and and.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that, uh, she has had a reasonably successful

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<v Speaker 5>political career given what I believe to be relatively few accomplishments.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's not a reflection of your question. I understand

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 5>that you're you're asking a different question. I think it's

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 5>ultimately up for voters to assess that.

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 2>And and by the way, well, well I.

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<v Speaker 5>Was gonna say, I'm not sure how much it really matters, uh,

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, whether whether whether you know one's intelligence in

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 5>the grand scheme of politics. I mean, we've got a

0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 5>lot of people who are who are out there who

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<v Speaker 5>are doing public sector job, particularly elected officials, who you know,

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 5>we've seen some sharper tool of them.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing that angered me the most with her, and

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, we're rehashing what is now ancient history. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess when she didn't take a stand in those final

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<v Speaker 4>days on do you think we should start locking up

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 4>criminals in California? That you know, what do you call them?

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<v Speaker 4>What's the word? You wouldn't we go out and vote

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<v Speaker 4>on an issue in California they don't have a numbers

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<v Speaker 4>prop referendum.

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<v Speaker 2>She wouldn't even.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Take a stand on one of our initiatives about locking

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 4>people up. What it was polling, it was gonna win

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 4>by you know, many, many many points, and it did,

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 4>and she wouldn't take a stand on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh my.

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<v Speaker 5>God, well, Jack, that's a different issue that that. That

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 5>speaks to the fact that I think, and this was

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<v Speaker 5>a problem that I think her campaign had generally, is

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<v Speaker 5>I think they they tried to triangulate too much, right,

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 5>they tried to be they tried to thread too many Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>God, you gotta take a take a position.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen. And by the way, the American people agreed with you,

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 5>because because they did not, they didn't particularly find her

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 5>campaign to be all that compelling. And I think one

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 5>of the reasons why is precisely because she would not

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<v Speaker 5>take a stand on even issues like should we criminalize

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 5>crime again in California. And if you can't even take

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 5>a stand on the issue like that, you know you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to have some problems politically.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think I would say I would say, man

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<v Speaker 4>the opposite of a profile and courage, LANEA.

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<v Speaker 7>Chen.

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<v Speaker 2>We always like your time.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a smart guy and you've got a lot of

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 4>experience at Lon heat Chen if you want to follow

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 4>him on the Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Alani, Hey, Thanks Shack. Yeah, yeah, well that was.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like I was, you know, a big Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris fan before that, But to me, that was the

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 4>end of it. You don't have what it takes to

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 4>be a politician. I mean, if you can't take a

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 4>stand on a position like that, that in your own

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 4>state is going to pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what did it win by? Like twenty points? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 8>Master's favorite Rory McElroy racing his four year old daughter

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<v Speaker 8>Poppy to the green Poppy who is just four on

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<v Speaker 2>And she makes it.

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<v Speaker 8>The crowd cheering, hugging dad Rory McInroy calling the contest

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<v Speaker 8>always one of the best days of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the Master's Golf Tournament, which is the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>tournament they have every year in the world of golf.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're into that, I'm not, but a lot of

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 4>people are. And that's where Joe is. Actually, he's at

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 4>the Master's Golf Tournament. And that was a four year

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<v Speaker 4>old making a twenty five year yard putt, which if

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<v Speaker 4>you're a golfer probably I don't know if that makes

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<v Speaker 4>you happy or sick to your stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. If you've one of the most.

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<v Speaker 4>Not one of the most, by far, the most common

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 4>question Joe and I ever get if we're ever meeting

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<v Speaker 4>new anybody, How did you guys meet.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why that question is so prevalent, but

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, what we started doing to get we worked at

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 4>competing radio stations. We started playing golf together because we

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<v Speaker 4>were both golf fanatics and.

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<v Speaker 2>We were twenty five years old. Geez, that's a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Ago, and we played golf all the time. And then

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 4>we decided to put a radio show together, and we

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 4>started doing a fake radio show and recording it and

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 4>sending out tapes to radio stations. That's how we started,

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<v Speaker 4>but I didn't know that. Oh you didn't know that, Okay,

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 4>I felt like cool. I feel like I've told that

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 4>story so many times that it is boring to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't told it in the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>because that's really I had no idea. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we worked at different radio stations. We were both

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<v Speaker 4>on in the morning. I was on a music station,

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 4>he was on a well, we were both on music stations,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was on the news music station and I

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<v Speaker 4>was on just like a young person's music station. We're

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five years old. And they were dead end jobs,

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<v Speaker 4>very low paying dead end jobs. Yeah, I mean very

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<v Speaker 4>low paying.

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<v Speaker 2>And we uh.

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<v Speaker 4>The first time I since you've never heard this story,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell it again. The first time I ever heard

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<v Speaker 4>him all my life. I was at a bar for

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<v Speaker 4>a trivia contest at night, and he was the MC

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<v Speaker 4>for the trivia contest. I think he did it for

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<v Speaker 4>extra money or free beer or something, because we're poor people.

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<v Speaker 4>And and and he would say funny things when he

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<v Speaker 4>was doing the trivia contest, and I thought, Wow, that

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<v Speaker 4>guy is really funny. And it kind of bothered me

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<v Speaker 4>that a guy that worked at another radio station was

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<v Speaker 4>funny because I thought I was the funny guy in

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<v Speaker 4>town and the fact that there was a different funny

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<v Speaker 4>guy in town was bothered them to me guys anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>So I met him, and I mean like immediately that

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<v Speaker 4>we found out we like to play golf, and we

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 4>started playing golf together, and that's we came up with

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<v Speaker 4>the idea. We both liked a lot of the same

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<v Speaker 4>radio shows that we grew up listening to out of Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though he lived in Chicago, I didn't, but a

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<v Speaker 4>very famous AM Chicago station, WLS, you could hear all

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<v Speaker 4>over the Midwest, and we listened to the same radio shows,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we had the same same style. And then

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<v Speaker 4>we would go into my radio station at night, because

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<v Speaker 4>you'd get fired for doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do.

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<v Speaker 4>This, you're looking for another job, and you're using the

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<v Speaker 4>station's equipment to record it. So we would wait until

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<v Speaker 4>after five o'clock and keep driving around the block until

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<v Speaker 4>we had seen everybody's cars leave the radio station. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>the general manager is gone, now we can go in.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'd go into my radio station and we'd spend

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<v Speaker 4>an hour pretending to a radio show with the songs

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<v Speaker 4>and everything, weather, just the whole thing, and then we

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<v Speaker 4>would cut up tapes and send them out and that's

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<v Speaker 4>how we got hired for a job that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I love everything about that. That's so cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I was actually gonna talk about the golf thing because

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<v Speaker 4>I was obsessed with golf as a young man and

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<v Speaker 4>at some and this is the only time this has

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<v Speaker 4>ever happened to me in my life. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if this has ever happened to anybody else. Were you, like,

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<v Speaker 4>really into something and then all of a sudden you not.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if anybody's ever done that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was loved golf, obsessed.

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<v Speaker 4>With it, and then at some point I decided I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like this anymore and stopped. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>anybody's ever done that with cooking or playing a musical instrument.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what, but I just lost interest in

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<v Speaker 4>So Joe continues to be a golf avid golf fanatic,

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<v Speaker 4>and I haven't had any interest in golf in decades

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<v Speaker 4>for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know why.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, we got a lot more an hour three on

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of different news topics that we should hit.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you can stick around to that armstrong and

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<v Speaker 2>Getty