Speaker 1: What's Up, You're off in God's Country?
Speaker 2: We read and is also known as The Brothers Hunt,
Speaker 2: where we take a weekly drive to the intersection of
Speaker 2: country music and the outdoors, two things that go together
Speaker 2: like after church lunch and KFC.
Speaker 3: For punk bands and rat tails.
Speaker 1: Produced by Meat Eater and iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 3: So hop on up and Ryde Shotgun with us as
Speaker 3: we take the back roads with some of today's biggest
Speaker 3: stars and creators behind the songs you Knowing Love.
Speaker 2: Today, we're sitting down with fellow West tennesseean. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: might as well be be our brother man, Jonathan Singleton.
Speaker 1: We've we go way back with this cat. He Uh,
Speaker 1: we talked about a little bit.
Speaker 2: He's possibly one of the main reasons that me and
Speaker 2: Dan are even in Nashville and yeah and making a
Speaker 2: living doing what we love. And and we've we've hunted
Speaker 2: with Jonathan. We've selled boats on Percy Priest with John
Speaker 2: cuts with him. Yeah, We're driven across the country with him,
Speaker 2: and it's just, Uh, he's a He's a great friend,
Speaker 2: a great guy. I got tons of great stories that
Speaker 2: I can't wait for yall to y'all for.
Speaker 3: Super talented to I hope he sings a little bit
Speaker 3: for us.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we can make him sing a little bit.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: So, thanks for hanging out with us and sticking around.
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy the podcast.
Speaker 1: Y'all stick with us, y'all stick around, don't turn Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Stick with us.
Speaker 1: Thanks, dude. These are surreals, not sponsored, should be but not.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and these are like the kind that you
Speaker 2: can like, Dude, I could go run through them up,
Speaker 2: huddle in these, and then wash them off with water
Speaker 2: and in twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: They be dry, just like this.
Speaker 3: I know we haven't enjoy.
Speaker 1: What uh too small? Probably not small?
Speaker 4: Too small?
Speaker 1: Didn't somebody throw up and walking around me like that's a.
Speaker 4: Problem looking around with a nine and a half?
Speaker 5: Agree what you got?
Speaker 2: Agreed with the same size insight, bro, I know it's
Speaker 2: what I'm you got on.
Speaker 4: Dude, likes like a little klubbe's fall over twelves.
Speaker 1: I can live in that, dude. Yeah, I could put
Speaker 1: a motor on that. Go fish.
Speaker 3: I wear a size smaller than you because every time
Speaker 3: you would buy rich boots that wouldn't fit.
Speaker 5: You'd be like, try them on. I still got a
Speaker 5: fall full of them.
Speaker 3: I still wear.
Speaker 5: Didn't throw up in one of your boots.
Speaker 4: One time it was me.
Speaker 1: You threw up and threw up in Yeah, disgusting. Why
Speaker 1: don't they tell you to tell the story?
Speaker 5: Were they?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, this is our intro, This is
Speaker 2: this is fam day we got. We got Grammy nominated
Speaker 2: fifteen number one, a couple of number two in your songwriters,
Speaker 2: some some top tens in their producer number ones, just just.
Speaker 3: All around deer wounding some of them.
Speaker 1: Mister mister Jonathan Slangerton's on the.
Speaker 3: Sling sling a ton started happening when that sling a
Speaker 3: ton of leading.
Speaker 2: There's also that I remember the friend he was like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: my name is Singleton. Of course is because I ride
Speaker 2: a ton of singles. And I was like, how does
Speaker 2: that happen?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: That I remember? The joke doesn't go over that well.
Speaker 3: And the same in the same breath, he'll go, what
Speaker 3: is it is?
Speaker 5: Anyway? What what is it?
Speaker 4: Know?
Speaker 1: Talented, handsome, good looking deer killing machine. That's what interesting,
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 3: When we started calling us the Brothers can't Hunt, I
Speaker 3: remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, back to our you threw up in your boot?
Speaker 4: I got hand those the duck boots. What are the
Speaker 4: duck boots? I loved him, dude.
Speaker 3: I love the.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the little rubber around the Yeah.
Speaker 4: But the old version, like the like the old school version, their.
Speaker 5: Leather halfway down.
Speaker 1: The flipped you flipped them over.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But so we all went to the mountains. We had
Speaker 6: just everybody had just had kids. Bread Jet was my oldest.
Speaker 3: Jet was who's Brett Jet?
Speaker 4: Braven Jet?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: God, and Brett right, So he's two.
Speaker 6: Logan Mice and Jill Mice. We all went to the mountains,
Speaker 6: Ryan Gore.
Speaker 4: They just had kids. I forget who else was there.
Speaker 6: And so we're in somebody's house that we had not rented.
Speaker 6: We had like, hey, this is my buddy's kind of house.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 6: So I'm in there with Jet while everybody's in the
Speaker 6: kitchen and he's in the bathtub and takes a big
Speaker 6: old poop and in the tub.
Speaker 1: How big old is Jet?
Speaker 4: He's like two, maybe three? I don't know.
Speaker 6: You can't tell me Jet because he's so big. He's
Speaker 6: been so big for so long. He might have been
Speaker 6: thirteen anyway.
Speaker 5: I think the way he was born, he was like
Speaker 5: nine pounds was born.
Speaker 4: Yeah, almost ten.
Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, so he poops in the bath up and
Speaker 6: then I'm scurry and trying to get this thing like
Speaker 6: cleaned up.
Speaker 4: And then what are you going to do? Like do
Speaker 4: I scoop it out?
Speaker 1: We go down to herds or like a baby poop?
Speaker 4: No, it was, I mean he was a man man
Speaker 4: since he was about three, and so i'm you know
Speaker 4: some of it, I'm scooping some of them showing other things.
Speaker 4: So I go in there.
Speaker 5: Wait, some of you are shoving down the thing.
Speaker 4: Put down.
Speaker 2: Whoever scoops turds out of a bathtub is not to
Speaker 2: break it up and can take it.
Speaker 6: Going the same place anyway. So I go in there
Speaker 6: and y'all know, I'm I'm Germany Phoebe.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I washed my hands like crazy man, and I'm
Speaker 4: just like, I think I got it all. I think
Speaker 4: I even went and took a shower. Anyway. And the
Speaker 4: next day on the way.
Speaker 6: Home, I'm driving from the mountains coming home, and I
Speaker 6: was like, man, it is hot in here.
Speaker 4: No it's not.
Speaker 6: It's kind of cold, and I know something's going on, right,
Speaker 6: So I pulled it was like, hey, case, will you
Speaker 6: drive for a minute. So at the last of it,
Speaker 6: I'm so hot. It just kind of kicked my boots off,
Speaker 6: you know, And we had just had I just had
Speaker 6: a It was the last Hearty's Frisco burger I ever had.
Speaker 6: This is the perfect never had one after this, because
Speaker 6: I saw it go into my boot. So I kicked
Speaker 6: my boots off, and I'm just like, I mean, it's
Speaker 6: like the sweat and it's happening, and I know it's
Speaker 6: fixing to happen, and I just blah, you know, and
Speaker 6: it go. They go directly into my boots. But about
Speaker 6: seventy five percent of it went into my boots.
Speaker 1: The furry Sperry.
Speaker 4: It's not a Sperry, it's not a Spiry.
Speaker 5: Do they have a name, but I can't remember the.
Speaker 3: Name of it.
Speaker 4: It's like yelobean.
Speaker 3: There's one word saying everything except what they are. Right,
Speaker 3: I'm with you anyway.
Speaker 4: I love these boots so much, and at this time too,
Speaker 4: it's like I couldn't go buy some more, right, But
Speaker 4: I could have bought some more boots, but my poor
Speaker 4: dad man and Dad we've talked about this a bunch,
Speaker 4: like that's a dad job, and my dad doesn't mind
Speaker 4: a dad job. So I get home and I tell Tim,
Speaker 4: telling him like, I got sick.
Speaker 6: I threw my boots. I'm grown, I'm thirty something. You know,
Speaker 6: he's where are your boots?
Speaker 1: He's got.
Speaker 4: The next two or three days trying to get the
Speaker 4: pike out of my boots. Tim, And he tried so
Speaker 4: hard that he find He was like, I think I
Speaker 4: got him pretty good.
Speaker 6: Stick him in the closet, and I've already got on
Speaker 6: and I'm ordered some more, you know. And so they
Speaker 6: stayed in the closet for like two three days was
Speaker 6: long enough where I felt like he wouldn't know that
Speaker 6: I threw him away.
Speaker 3: And I threw him away. Yeah, he's never going to
Speaker 3: listen to this anyway.
Speaker 4: No, he doesn't even know these things exist.
Speaker 3: No, No, Tim Singleton is an angel.
Speaker 4: He's something. He's a good one.
Speaker 3: I scored good dad. Man, he's funny. You remember, man,
Speaker 3: Me and Singleton Reid back when Singleton was already rich,
Speaker 3: but me and Reid were so poor. I mean we
Speaker 3: couldn't even hardly afford saw and uh we would drive
Speaker 3: to Jackson Hunt from Nashville and.
Speaker 5: Your dad had to stop smoking.
Speaker 3: Gets so mad at your dad.
Speaker 5: Dude, but you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't, you can't. Just it's twenty more miles.
Speaker 7: Dad.
Speaker 3: He's like, I sure would appreciate it if you pull over,
Speaker 3: pull that tundra over, tell pop out and he'd just be.
Speaker 6: He said he's finally quit smoking. I caught him sneaking
Speaker 6: some sig really here. Yeah, you'll sneak a sig here lately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to put it down.
Speaker 4: Well, he doesn't smoke.
Speaker 6: But if he gets if he gets away, he'll he'll
Speaker 6: sneak a sig. We just we just got back from
Speaker 6: me and Ray do our we've done.
Speaker 4: This is our second year.
Speaker 6: Me and Ray Fulcher take our dad's to Kentucky. Did
Speaker 6: I tell you all all the stories? I did, no
Speaker 6: idea because.
Speaker 3: I text there so many. Dude, It's almost like your
Speaker 3: timeline thing where you remember the story, but you can't
Speaker 3: remember exactly when it happened.
Speaker 4: So we go to Kentucky. Me and Ray sit on
Speaker 4: and you sat at this place.
Speaker 5: He lose his wallet this year.
Speaker 3: I remember how mad Ray was.
Speaker 4: No his dad locked the keys in his truck. Last
Speaker 4: year he locked the keys in the truck and lost
Speaker 4: the wallet. He lost his wallet.
Speaker 3: I don't remember he lost his wallet. And remember because
Speaker 3: was like, hey man, I really hate I really had
Speaker 3: to tell you. Yes, he's like, Daddy, he lost his
Speaker 3: damn wallet.
Speaker 5: We got to over.
Speaker 4: Ray, who never said a customer or ever. He's like,
Speaker 4: he lost his f and wallet.
Speaker 3: I don't say that.
Speaker 6: You like the test of patients, like you know, it's
Speaker 6: like you pray for patients and then God gives you
Speaker 6: the opportunity to be patient.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: This is it. This is the week. It's four days
Speaker 4: some me and Ray sit in the spots we started.
Speaker 4: You both take your dad, we take your dad's.
Speaker 6: We find some spots that are great, and then we
Speaker 6: put up blinds and.
Speaker 4: Let them haunt those spots for the rest of the time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and me and Ray saw zero bucks. I saw one
Speaker 4: that had its leg dangling off the back of it when.
Speaker 5: This is the way in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, hey man, we don't have to
Speaker 3: keep saying to them from talking about.
Speaker 4: Little you know.
Speaker 6: And also it's about one hundred and seventy five yard
Speaker 6: shot and we're West Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Dudes.
Speaker 4: Man, we're heels like we're one hundred yards.
Speaker 6: That's the long, you know, That's all we got that's
Speaker 6: all we got for sure anyway. So but the thing,
Speaker 6: the reason I brought it up is not for that reason.
Speaker 6: The reason I brought it up is we're at the
Speaker 6: point and Randy's the same man. You can't rush them.
Speaker 6: If you rush them, something's gonna happen, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta let them take the time. You got
Speaker 2: to let them do it in their process.
Speaker 3: Right, and it's over. It's just trying to control it
Speaker 3: is over right.
Speaker 6: He's trying to find something. He doesn't know where it's at.
Speaker 6: It's gonna take forever. Just don't say anything. Sure, So
Speaker 6: I did say something and he fell over the trailer
Speaker 6: fell first day day one he fell, and then day
Speaker 6: two he goes. That was when I at you now,
Speaker 6: and I was like, he, I think it was the
Speaker 6: afternoon hunt and we're getting ready to go. And I
Speaker 6: never said, hey man, you know it's getting this by
Speaker 6: the time we all to be said.
Speaker 4: I never said it. I just waited. He goes to
Speaker 4: the truck. Yeah, he goes to the truck.
Speaker 6: Back of the truck, back to the truck, was back
Speaker 6: to the Plarifsmith thing finally said, hey man, what are
Speaker 6: you looking for? And he said, well, last time I
Speaker 6: saw my gun, it was sitting on it was on
Speaker 6: your tire right here.
Speaker 4: He said, you didn't drive off, it was mill like
Speaker 4: I did it.
Speaker 3: Off with my gun on your tired. Why would you
Speaker 3: do that?
Speaker 4: You eat it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you always look at your tires.
Speaker 3: Before they pull off.
Speaker 6: And so I'm up kind of on the plaiffs and
Speaker 6: I was like, you mean that gun and it's smashed
Speaker 6: in the ground, ran over, ran over it twice. Two tires,
Speaker 6: two trailer tires ran over. I think it's you know
Speaker 6: how Tim is too. It's a nineteen sixty three Walmart gone.
Speaker 6: And he's like, there's some name, my man, that's a Hafi.
Speaker 4: That's a good.
Speaker 1: Shot. A bunch of deer with that gun.
Speaker 4: Oh Man does the thing and picks up and he's like,
Speaker 4: all right, let's go.
Speaker 3: And I was like, dude, we mean he picked up,
Speaker 3: looked through the scope, let's go.
Speaker 4: It goes, Let's go.
Speaker 2: If that ain't my dad, Just to make sure the
Speaker 2: scope isn't hanging off the side, just.
Speaker 3: To make sure, because what you do is you is
Speaker 3: you look down the barrel. It's like, say, I want
Speaker 3: to make sure my I mean this is not. No
Speaker 3: one actually do this. This is an incorrect way of
Speaker 3: doing this. Okay, it's not correct, but in your brain,
Speaker 3: you think if I line up my eye down the
Speaker 3: like say you aimed at the end of that long horn, right,
Speaker 3: you would look down the barrel and then go into
Speaker 3: the scope and be like, oh, yeah, it's on it's on.
Speaker 4: The it's on the barrel, right, that's what he's looking.
Speaker 5: For, which is not right at all at all. I
Speaker 5: say it is, but I've seen that happen probably the.
Speaker 2: Farthest thing from right in that scenario to to make
Speaker 2: sure that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're done. You're smoke. Like either he's
Speaker 4: ruined in everybody's day and we're going back, or he's
Speaker 4: gonna sit there a normal a normal person would have
Speaker 4: been like, man, I'll just sit here. We'll shoot this
Speaker 4: thing in the morning. We'll be late in the morning. Cool, Okay,
Speaker 4: we got another gun, tim, don't do that. Man, he
Speaker 4: popped rounds that afternoon.
Speaker 1: But dude, isn't it worth it?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: Like, like I've been hunt with my dad some this,
Speaker 2: I'm actually going, you know, this afternoon, going to spend
Speaker 2: a day and a half with him down in Wayne County.
Speaker 1: But isn't it worth it all the all the like the.
Speaker 2: Patients that you have to practice and the things that
Speaker 2: you have to not necessarily deal with because it's part
Speaker 2: of it. But just like the going and doing it
Speaker 2: is worthing. It just just to spend time with them
Speaker 2: and in the woods and see them and.
Speaker 4: They do that stuff with us. I mean from from
Speaker 4: from eight or seven or whenever.
Speaker 6: It just go do y'all, did y'all get the and
Speaker 6: I do it now because I'm I'm taking kids into
Speaker 6: the woods now, and said, hey.
Speaker 4: Man, pick up your feet.
Speaker 3: I remember my dad man walking, so.
Speaker 4: I thought, man, what's wrong.
Speaker 5: With you tad dancing?
Speaker 4: Walking like you?
Speaker 6: Every time we walk into the woods now, I'd be like,
Speaker 6: hey man, pick up your feet, man, And he said,
Speaker 6: he has no idea what I'm talking about. And I
Speaker 6: always have full intentions when we get in there, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna tell him, hey.
Speaker 4: You know, you're kind of kicking the leaves like you.
Speaker 4: Maybe pick him up and don't walk so loud. But
Speaker 4: they did that for us forever man and my dad
Speaker 4: he used to and I know he would be like,
Speaker 4: here's your spot, and I'm gonna.
Speaker 6: Sit there for thirty minutes and I wouldn't see any
Speaker 6: there and then walk over to his spot and be like, hey,
Speaker 6: I thought i'd sit on your spot for a little bit,
Speaker 6: and he'd be like okay whatever.
Speaker 4: He would never.
Speaker 6: Say, he was just like, you know, and I'll go
Speaker 6: back to your spot.
Speaker 4: And so because I got bored, man, I didn't have you.
Speaker 5: Know, oh no, there were no dude.
Speaker 3: I can remember days in a box line with no
Speaker 3: phone and no nothing, and you are literally like counting
Speaker 3: ladybugs on.
Speaker 5: I remember shooting same.
Speaker 4: Because I thought we would go home and he comes up,
Speaker 4: so I shoot and he comes over there, and that's
Speaker 4: my math breakfast. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I dude, I've driven up on my dad.
Speaker 2: I've been so scared that the rapture happened before that.
Speaker 2: I walking talking went out.
Speaker 4: Christ because you guys, you the ones going yeah, we
Speaker 4: don't have to worry about.
Speaker 5: It, right, But I got scared.
Speaker 2: I got so scared one afternoon and we've been in
Speaker 2: there since like noon, and dude, it was like it
Speaker 2: was like four thirty. It's like perfect time, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there was some deer in there. My
Speaker 2: dad was hung I got down on my I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I just freaked myself out, got down on my foe
Speaker 2: that I was like. And I finally got to where
Speaker 2: he was and I drove right next to his box,
Speaker 2: and I remember his head sticking out, thirty deer just
Speaker 2: going everywhere, and I was like, he goes, what are
Speaker 2: you doing.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so glad to see you. I
Speaker 1: thought the rapture. He was like, you thought the rapture happened.
Speaker 3: After you thought there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Oh that was it.
Speaker 6: I mean, dude, do y'all remember Wayne us hunting Wayne County?
Speaker 6: And I thought the world was ending? There was that
Speaker 6: set y'all had just made that had a little bitty
Speaker 6: feet played it, and there's a big set of woods
Speaker 6: of it. And I think, I tell, I think, I tell,
Speaker 6: I don't know if you might not have been there.
Speaker 6: I know, damnse But all of a sudden I was
Speaker 6: sitting there and you can hear all the birds, and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, every bird in this set of
Speaker 6: woods comes over my head.
Speaker 4: Do you'll remember that?
Speaker 6: I vaguely with this, and I was like, Okay, there's
Speaker 6: a million reasons why this could happen. But I've seen
Speaker 6: a lot of horror movies do like, I don't know
Speaker 6: what's fixing the come out of those woods, like every bird,
Speaker 6: thousands of birds over my head and they go.
Speaker 4: And that was just silence and then complete science.
Speaker 6: And it was probably seven or eight of the longest
Speaker 6: minutes of my whole life, waiting on some trumpets to
Speaker 6: sound or something.
Speaker 3: Come through the clouds, floating through, right, and then.
Speaker 4: This this little two little coywties come through the woods
Speaker 4: and they'd run all those birds out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the woods can be can be a weird place.
Speaker 3: Before we get off, dads, I have you all ever,
Speaker 3: I'm noticing more and more because I do it to
Speaker 3: my kids too, like not lies, right, but like here's
Speaker 3: the problem example. And I know I know you share
Speaker 3: a love for the arguably the greatest chicken restaurant of
Speaker 3: all time, KFC too, because we made them stop stops today. Yeah,
Speaker 3: our dad every Sunday would come home with a nine piece,
Speaker 3: a nine piece chicken from KFC. Nine piece already there,
Speaker 3: you're already you already know that's a man after my
Speaker 3: own heart.
Speaker 5: So I grew up.
Speaker 3: My whole life getting thinking that, Yeah, you just drop
Speaker 3: by KFC and get a nine piece, right, right. My
Speaker 3: wife won't eat KFC, won't won't even entertain the possibility
Speaker 3: of ever going there. But like it was my birthday
Speaker 3: and I was like, you don.
Speaker 5: Won't worat a bucket of chicken.
Speaker 3: She was like, oh my gosh, well give me some
Speaker 3: potatoes and macaroni at least, you know.
Speaker 5: So I go by there, just swipe up.
Speaker 3: A nine piece. Dude. I pull up to the thing.
Speaker 3: Have you where else, y'all? I take a nine piece
Speaker 3: mixed with some green beans, mashrotatoes, macar Sir, we don't
Speaker 3: have a nine piece. I was like, yeah, your dad.
Speaker 3: He goes, no, we don't and we've never had a
Speaker 3: nine And I was.
Speaker 4: Like, how does this cat know the history of KFC.
Speaker 3: He's a fifty nine year old KFC. I think he
Speaker 3: knew he was a Google owner. I also door.
Speaker 4: It's under a colonel. He looked like he was in Midland.
Speaker 4: He looked like, I.
Speaker 3: Can't do that already. Ain't no nine piece, dude. This
Speaker 3: joker begetting a ten piece. His whole watch was he eating?
Speaker 3: He was eating the wing on the way home. Every
Speaker 3: wing he had a wing man. I know, but I'm
Speaker 3: just saying. I called him and I said, hey man.
Speaker 5: In line.
Speaker 3: I was in line, I said.
Speaker 5: I called him.
Speaker 3: I was like, hey man, they used to have a
Speaker 3: nine piece back from the days. Found me out.
Speaker 5: Getting a ten piece.
Speaker 4: He's like, dear Lord, please forgive me for the nine piece.
Speaker 3: Everything I said, I said, you need a chicken on
Speaker 3: away home.
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, son, I got the twelve.
Speaker 3: I'd eat three on wing.
Speaker 7: Leg breath leg is what I breast thigh leg On
Speaker 7: the way home.
Speaker 3: I would go thigh thigh wing, wing wing. I mean,
Speaker 3: because then that was a little I'll just knock it
Speaker 3: out one.
Speaker 4: I pulled it out.
Speaker 2: I was always tiny, so I was i'ld get every leg.
Speaker 2: I'd steal every leg in there before anybody could five.
Speaker 4: Or six the bonus and little brotherland you get that leg. Now,
Speaker 4: I'll give rid the wing leg.
Speaker 1: You know we don't eat them wings.
Speaker 5: You don't eat that dark MANE give that the dan?
Speaker 4: Hey all of it? Hey, do y'all remember to speaking
Speaker 4: of Dad? One more? Dad.
Speaker 6: We were in some city somewhere. We're all right with
Speaker 6: somebody and we're walking down the road.
Speaker 3: Know, we were behind a bar Chicago.
Speaker 2: We're standing out there behind what was that place that
Speaker 2: everybody used to play Joe's and there was a parking
Speaker 2: lot right there behind us, and then this happened.
Speaker 4: So we're all standing.
Speaker 3: There cigarettes back then, and some dude does the big
Speaker 3: loud Yeah, the one, the.
Speaker 6: One that means in West Tennessee, you fish, you should
Speaker 6: have been home a long time ago.
Speaker 4: And we all kind of.
Speaker 3: Thirty year old, thirty year old men.
Speaker 2: I think I put my cigarette away.
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 4: About that forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jonathan said, he was like, man, every one of
Speaker 3: us just turned around like, yeah, d what daddy.
Speaker 1: We're all from West Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Me and Dan grew up in a little town called Savannah,
Speaker 2: and Jonathan grew up in Lexingtonnish area.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad was a preacher too.
Speaker 6: We moved around a lot where y'all said, you know,
Speaker 6: kept his job, ours ours moved around, We moved around.
Speaker 6: I think my dad would in hindsight, now that I
Speaker 6: see what he was doing, he would kind of go
Speaker 6: to these kind of you know, not a.
Speaker 4: Busted up church. They had an issue and he would
Speaker 4: go in and kind of get all that sorted out
Speaker 4: and then would kind of move on to that thing
Speaker 4: with kind of like this layman kind of easy.
Speaker 6: You know, hey, everybody, this is what we're doing. The
Speaker 6: simple version of all of that, you know, was he
Speaker 6: trying to do that? There was always some kind of
Speaker 6: issue that had happened and he was kind of mediating that.
Speaker 6: I remember a few of those happening. And I don't
Speaker 6: know what you call that. If he did that, if
Speaker 6: he specialized.
Speaker 4: In that, I don't know.
Speaker 6: But we were well around Jackson the whole time, which
Speaker 6: is north south east west of all of that. So
Speaker 6: Ceedar Grove is where we which is you know, Ceedar
Speaker 6: Grove was kind of the last one Wilder's full Tennessee
Speaker 6: Lexington and Tennessee is where I went to high school,
Speaker 6: which is real closer to y'all as you go that way.
Speaker 6: It was like Pennoak the other side over there, remember something.
Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot.
Speaker 4: Of places, yeah that we that we lived.
Speaker 6: Around in that area and based out of Decaturable Scott's
Speaker 6: Hill that's where all that family was from too.
Speaker 1: Is that where you where did you grow up hunting?
Speaker 2: Because we were talking about this on the way in,
Speaker 2: I know, like a bunch of those stories from but like,
Speaker 2: what's your earliest memory you because it's you and your
Speaker 2: dad right.
Speaker 4: Me and my dad. Yeah, Josh would go a little bit.
Speaker 6: He killed a doe early on, and it was one
Speaker 6: of those for me, not for me, yeah uh.
Speaker 4: And I think he spined it too. It was that thing.
Speaker 6: But we had my dad preaching this church called Hickory Plains.
Speaker 6: Hickory Plains, uh, and the farmer that lived there, you
Speaker 6: know where we all grew up, counting on some farmers
Speaker 6: went to church with And in hindsight also it's like, man,
Speaker 6: they must have had a just a giant amount of
Speaker 6: land because we there was no four wheeler, there was
Speaker 6: no you know what I mean. It was like, here's
Speaker 6: access to this and you walk this ridge as far
Speaker 6: as you can go. And I remember doing all that.
Speaker 6: That's kind of the the first. There was another one
Speaker 6: that was close to Natal's trace, like it backed up
Speaker 6: to National's trace. And I remember that place hunting. I
Speaker 6: remember getting home from school on days when I was
Speaker 6: fourteen or so, and my dad would let me let
Speaker 6: me take the little blue cake car and drive over
Speaker 6: to that spot. Really my gun that he would let me.
Speaker 1: What's a car?
Speaker 4: It was like a Chrysler, you know that LeBaron I got.
Speaker 4: It's the same one. But with a top on it,
Speaker 4: like I mean, horrible little older.
Speaker 6: I was probably fourteen, no, no, no, no, it was back
Speaker 6: roads to get back over there. But he would let
Speaker 6: me get off the bus, get your gun and he
Speaker 6: would say, now, don't go anywhere but that stand right there,
Speaker 6: which is insane to me, Like I can't even imagine, dude,
Speaker 6: I'll go.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was eight up with hunting at that time, like
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 6: You know Roger Raglin and all those dudes, like that
Speaker 6: was the only videos you get.
Speaker 1: There was no says Roger Ragling. I see there's a
Speaker 1: video of him.
Speaker 4: Close enough to kiss the.
Speaker 2: Video in his garage before he goes hunting, banging his
Speaker 2: bow on the wall and he was like banging on
Speaker 2: the wall and he pulled it back.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, let's go hunt, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, like the bowl was then, well he was
Speaker 3: always like two feet from the deer. So it is true.
Speaker 3: Man kissed.
Speaker 6: And I don't know where those how we got his rock.
Speaker 6: They had to be on yeah he's still going. They
Speaker 6: had to be on VHS.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess they probably got passed around.
Speaker 1: Was there an outdoor channel back then?
Speaker 4: But now are you watching chel seven and Channel eleven,
Speaker 4: Channel sixteen, and you turn that thing with a dial, dude. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean there was new technology.
Speaker 3: We just didn't have it.
Speaker 4: If we didn't have yeah, uh but yeah, that little
Speaker 4: spot in But it was all West Tennessee hunting, and
Speaker 4: it was always corn.
Speaker 6: You know, this guy's got corn. We're gonna hump beside
Speaker 6: the corn. They wearing those stands. We made some stands.
Speaker 6: We built woods.
Speaker 5: It's Jet thirteenth, he's twelve twelve.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean think about letting him just trinke a gun,
Speaker 7: take a gun, take a gun.
Speaker 4: Hop in your car, go walk out into the woods.
Speaker 5: It's sit till dark. No phone, no phone.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no such thing.
Speaker 3: Was telling us the other day he was seven, nine
Speaker 3: and ten and his they were driving flat bottoms in
Speaker 3: the ocean shark fishing while his dad was at work on.
Speaker 1: An island and his dad was up.
Speaker 3: I mean they ran out of gas or something.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was the craziest shark fishing.
Speaker 5: He was telling us about it.
Speaker 3: And I was like, and I actually talked to my dad.
Speaker 3: I went home and talked to my dad about we
Speaker 3: could dear me the next morning and I said, man,
Speaker 3: he used to drive it. He was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: he said, me and Keith would gotch up on a
Speaker 3: train and ride the train across car Rinth with twenty
Speaker 3: two's on their back, play baseball and catch a train home. Dude.
Speaker 3: I was like, how old were know this? That mate?
Speaker 1: Different times, has a different time.
Speaker 4: Yeah. If we go to a ball game now and
Speaker 4: I don't see Jet for about seven minutes, I started
Speaker 4: get real nervous.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he dude, he's a man. I mean he was, yeah, like,
Speaker 6: who's gonna Who's gonna take it?
Speaker 3: No, one just take another kid. No way to getting
Speaker 3: that kid in the back of my man.
Speaker 1: He's twenty six, he's not thirteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, getting him discount, snatch him up. That's the funniest thing, man, Jet.
Speaker 3: He holds a special place in my heart, man, because
Speaker 3: he was like the first baby I was around a lot, right, Like,
Speaker 3: I had nephews and I saw I saw them pretty regular.
Speaker 5: But man, we were just at.
Speaker 3: That time in our lives read and I just basically
Speaker 3: lived with you. I mean, we dinner with you all
Speaker 3: we will.
Speaker 6: Did because we were That was the first version of
Speaker 6: the of the Kool Aaid house. But it was like
Speaker 6: the beer. It was you know, East Nashville. We had
Speaker 6: a house that people could actually you know, yeah, get
Speaker 6: out on the back porch and we'd shoot bows and
Speaker 6: we'd hang.
Speaker 5: Out and thousand percent.
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, I I don't know how we.
Speaker 1: Would have made it through without work on four wheelers and.
Speaker 4: Having that house.
Speaker 3: Man, without having that house to go to in that
Speaker 3: backyard and and uh and Ponytail Pete and yeah r
Speaker 3: I p man, what a good dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yet interesting. Huh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, he's he's gotting. Like last year, No, he
Speaker 4: was like five.
Speaker 3: Where he's holding.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah that was last year. There was a smaller
Speaker 6: one before that. This year, that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Deer man, I got all that.
Speaker 3: I said, it's amazing.
Speaker 4: He drops him. Yeah, and he gets it.
Speaker 6: But you know, man, because we've had these conversations lunch,
Speaker 6: it's like a big jobt group of people who have
Speaker 6: made their hobby their job, you know. And we we've
Speaker 6: also had that conversation too about about hunting, and it's like,
Speaker 6: you know, so I try to not push him in
Speaker 6: any of those things.
Speaker 4: Like he's interested in music, he's interested in hunting. He's
Speaker 4: interested in a.
Speaker 6: Lot of things, a lot of a lot of games
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, and I can lean into those
Speaker 6: a little bit more because it's not I don't feel
Speaker 6: like I have an agenda, Like I feel like I
Speaker 6: have an agenda.
Speaker 4: If I'm like, hey man, let's go.
Speaker 3: I'll go.
Speaker 6: I always go, hey man, here's check out this picture
Speaker 6: of this buck, you know, and I'll show it to him.
Speaker 4: And I always make sure I have that deer two
Speaker 4: or three days four. So if he goes, hey, let's
Speaker 4: go hunt that deer, I'll be like, cool, let's go
Speaker 4: right now. That's pretty He's going to walk out at
Speaker 4: three forty five, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 4: know exactly where he's coming. So always trying to make
Speaker 4: it easy.
Speaker 6: But they think too, Like Jet and Bread both, I
Speaker 6: made sure there was always those boxes. You memory did
Speaker 6: that East National thing, and I had that little bean
Speaker 6: bag in there, and he even have his phone, and
Speaker 6: I would take snack and drinks and all that stuff
Speaker 6: like that. It's like make it fun, to make it
Speaker 6: like this fun thing that they want to do. And
Speaker 6: then this year we did it too, and there's still
Speaker 6: I thought Jet would get more into it, but he's
Speaker 6: always a hate.
Speaker 4: You're gonna you're gonna call You're gonna call that deer
Speaker 4: with the ground call.
Speaker 6: And instead of me being like, well, they're not really
Speaker 6: doing that right now, I'd be like, yeah, dude, you.
Speaker 4: You end up laughing a bunch, And that's what it's
Speaker 4: supposed to be too, I think.
Speaker 6: And we've had a conversation a bunch too, like about
Speaker 6: hunting and what that does, becoming a man hunting and
Speaker 6: being a boy hunting, and and like you hunt when
Speaker 6: you're little, you hunt so you feel like a man,
Speaker 6: and then when you're a man hunting, you hunt to feel.
Speaker 4: Like a little to feel like a little feel like
Speaker 4: a little boy like you, to have that feeling again,
Speaker 4: that excitement that.
Speaker 5: Like, yep, that's very very so I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Try to make sure they do that. And we do
Speaker 4: that musically too.
Speaker 6: We never kind of push him in that, you know,
Speaker 6: it's like, yeah, man, that was cool. You know, like
Speaker 6: Jet plays drums a little bit and I'll play bass
Speaker 6: guitar or something like that.
Speaker 4: But I never go, hey, man, you was like, what's.
Speaker 1: In the pocket.
Speaker 4: I never did.
Speaker 6: I was trying to make it fun and but I
Speaker 6: think if he gets interested in it. And he's so
Speaker 6: interested in filming things and gaming and all.
Speaker 4: That stuff like that.
Speaker 6: I always wondered if there was some version of that
Speaker 6: he would get into of, like, oh man, maybe this
Speaker 6: is part of my thing. And he watches a lot
Speaker 6: of those guys with me. We we just recently got
Speaker 6: on those dudes. We were talking about him the other day.
Speaker 4: The Creek Kings or whatever, and Jet loves that. He
Speaker 4: loves those. He watches those and like likes those dudes,
Speaker 4: and yeah, it's YouTube. They're they're cool, man, it's interesting
Speaker 4: little little thing. And so he watches them with me
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So I's trying to get into it.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, o.
Speaker 5: Door TV is tough these days, dude, it's just YouTube.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the outdoorschown you never really and I hate to
Speaker 3: just bag on it, but like.
Speaker 6: Show you never know what you're Heartland bow Hunter is
Speaker 6: still the one today. I mean that was the first
Speaker 6: one where it's like, oh man, this is beautiful. It's
Speaker 6: kind of almost in music realm of like oh we
Speaker 6: can do that, Oh we can make this beautiful, and
Speaker 6: you can make it cinematic and you can make you know.
Speaker 4: I.
Speaker 2: Feel like that's when you just talked about this, Like,
Speaker 2: for me, that's that was the switch. When I watched
Speaker 2: those guys do it Heartland bow Hunter and Michael Huntsucker
Speaker 2: and those guys.
Speaker 1: Like that was the switch from boy hunting into man hunting.
Speaker 5: But still filming it, right, Yeah, still.
Speaker 2: Still trying to create content, but in a way that
Speaker 2: like shooting the deer didn't really matter.
Speaker 3: It just felt it felt a little more I don't
Speaker 3: want to see mature because it felt a little.
Speaker 5: More artistic and related. Yeah, yeah, and not so conquering.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: And then then you stumble on something like like Steven
Speaker 2: and Meadiater and you get to see the whole process
Speaker 2: of it, from from the ernie to the hunt to
Speaker 2: the cooking of the meat and all that, and then
Speaker 2: it takes.
Speaker 4: You into a whole little plug the dude right and
Speaker 4: it got Yeah, and he does too, and y'all y'all
Speaker 4: been good at it too. It's like, Wow, there's nothing
Speaker 4: happening in that boring period. There's so many things that
Speaker 4: are happening around you.
Speaker 3: You mean, like the other ninety eight percent that is
Speaker 3: the thing that I the thing and the hawk and
Speaker 3: all the things.
Speaker 6: The sunrise, and all those things are embedded in those
Speaker 6: things where they used to not be.
Speaker 3: For sure, Man, and I can remember you talking about
Speaker 3: jet I can remember, dude, I didn't always love to hunt.
Speaker 3: Man when I was thirteen and more worried about whether
Speaker 3: I'm going to say her name, but so and so.
Speaker 4: And so, but what's your name?
Speaker 3: Katie?
Speaker 4: Katie?
Speaker 3: Whether she texts me back? Dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was more worried about that.
Speaker 1: The one that got away.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I was more worried about that that I can't
Speaker 3: believe went out.
Speaker 5: Saying has been getting me in troubles. Is the day
Speaker 5: we met.
Speaker 4: Say it.
Speaker 6: Say it anyway, speaking, I'll tell that story about you
Speaker 6: shooting at that coyote from the road.
Speaker 3: But what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: I'm just.
Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, happened which Cody, don't we're talking he's a
Speaker 7: few times.
Speaker 3: No, I mean statute limitations.
Speaker 6: We were hanging out and down to Petwick down there
Speaker 6: back when I used to call you fancy pants.
Speaker 5: We can't.
Speaker 3: I thought we were hunting.
Speaker 4: That was a That was the night, dude, I shot.
Speaker 3: At a Kyle with a pistol out of the window
Speaker 3: of John's truck one time. Yeah, we just really didn't
Speaker 3: like that was a different time. Were we are different
Speaker 3: men now about something else? Right?
Speaker 4: And he told the incriminated.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking anymore, dude.
Speaker 2: When did Uh, let's get into it then, but when
Speaker 2: did when did music step into your life?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: When did what was the first what was the first
Speaker 2: time you were like, Oh, I love playing the guitar,
Speaker 2: I love singing this song, I love I love playing
Speaker 2: in front of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was always there, man, I mean that.
Speaker 1: Was was that a church thing? Was that like through
Speaker 1: church church saying.
Speaker 4: Well we sing?
Speaker 6: Which was also great harmony, you know, so that I mean,
Speaker 6: hunting is what our dad did.
Speaker 4: Music is what our mom did.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: I hadn't thought about that, but that's literally yeah the truth.
Speaker 5: Does your dad sing? You know?
Speaker 4: No, he does, he would lead sing.
Speaker 6: I mean he's not you know, you know it's the
Speaker 6: small church thing that song later yeah he's yeah.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 3: Anyway, trying to think of a hymn that would be appropriate.
Speaker 4: But it was always there. We had We grew with
Speaker 4: me and Josh grew up going to band practice. Uh,
Speaker 4: I think every Monday or Wednesday night or something like
Speaker 4: that with my mom's band that did. They did country music,
Speaker 4: they did rock music, they did everything. I mean it
Speaker 4: was I remember hearing Willie Nelson songs. I remember hearing
Speaker 4: Dewie brother songs. I remember hearing Bob Seger songs.
Speaker 5: I remember hearing she had a band.
Speaker 4: Band, Yeah, she had a band. Mom. She got offered
Speaker 4: a record deal in Nashville. For real. I don't can't
Speaker 4: believe I had told Joe this.
Speaker 6: So she had a band called Rito was the name
Speaker 6: of the band before Diamond Rio this is, you know,
Speaker 6: And she had a bunch of dudes and they were
Speaker 6: good players.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think, yeah, I think they were
Speaker 4: West Test guys.
Speaker 6: So they would have band practice. We always had instruments around.
Speaker 6: We always had a pa, you know, and a and
Speaker 6: a mixture and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: That's cool, man, I didn't know that.
Speaker 6: And then she met a guy here in Nashville and
Speaker 6: started coming up to this thing called the Captain's Table
Speaker 6: and you bring your tape like you have a cassette
Speaker 6: karaoke thing.
Speaker 4: You pop your tape in and you kind of do
Speaker 4: this little set and it.
Speaker 6: Was like kind of like a showcase kind and I
Speaker 6: can't remember how all that went. That was probably I
Speaker 6: was probably in third grade, second third fourth grade maybe
Speaker 6: around that time that she was like they sat us
Speaker 6: down and they were like, Okay, here's what could possibly happen.
Speaker 4: I all go on the road. Y'all will go with me.
Speaker 6: Dad'll be the bus driver and we'll get you guys
Speaker 6: like a tutor, and that's what you'll do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, no, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I kind of thought your journey to Nashville was just
Speaker 2: solely you, but but no did that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she wrote songs. I don't remember her writing songs
Speaker 6: on a little keyboard. She can't replay keyboard. But it
Speaker 6: was like it would be like, can't even have this
Speaker 6: little the beat too, and her tune was her big
Speaker 6: tune was like, dude, I played for y'all sometimes I
Speaker 6: got it on.
Speaker 4: I had it. I found the two inch tapes and
Speaker 4: I dumped them into CD and then I dumped them
Speaker 4: into three. But it was I always wanted to be
Speaker 4: Bahad my mom. I just delay on the beach all day. What. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she had a song called physical Physical Attraction between You
Speaker 4: and Me.
Speaker 3: It was all that.
Speaker 4: It was almost I remember kat Oslyn. It was all
Speaker 4: she was like that kind of I mean it was
Speaker 4: they would have been eighty four or something like that.
Speaker 4: But back then they kind of set out your world.
Speaker 6: It was like in the contractor I remember talking about it, well,
Speaker 6: how are we going to do this?
Speaker 4: Like how is this possible?
Speaker 6: That so we're going to cut a record in this time,
Speaker 6: which she did cut four sides or five or whatever.
Speaker 3: I had no idea.
Speaker 4: She cuts, yeah, and I care for it in Nashville
Speaker 4: some I don't know where.
Speaker 6: But in the contract it was like, here's who you'll
Speaker 6: go on the road with, here's the gigs you'll play.
Speaker 4: Like it was all in the thing.
Speaker 3: That's what happened.
Speaker 4: She you know, she's a she's a preacher's kid, and
Speaker 4: a and a and a preacher's wife, and she goes
Speaker 4: with two kids and yeah, and and she was like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think I don't think this is
Speaker 4: my path.
Speaker 5: And then it was crazy.
Speaker 4: Done, Like she was done. That was it. She didn't
Speaker 4: do it anymore.
Speaker 6: But y'all, she's a great singer, great great songwriter.
Speaker 4: And and she used to sit around play guitar a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 6: And then when once I learned to play guitar, one
Speaker 6: day I made fun of her for playing guitar because they.
Speaker 4: Would do that boom jaggy boom, jaggie boom jack everything.
Speaker 6: It didn't matter what song you're playing, doing jaggie boom
Speaker 6: with a bass note, you know, every song. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: I made fun of her and she I've never.
Speaker 4: Seen a pickup guitar since then. I was a kid man.
Speaker 6: I didn't know you rat Tael probably had a rat tail,
Speaker 6: I did you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was on top right here, big things. It
Speaker 4: was braided, died different colors.
Speaker 3: You would die different color.
Speaker 4: Different colors. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I started on because you know, me and Joey that
Speaker 6: works at fifty eight two, we were best friends and
Speaker 6: how he was in my first man that I had,
Speaker 6: and we were a little punk rock kids. And so
Speaker 6: when Coolio came out, we all had super long hair.
Speaker 6: But when Coolio came out, we thought it'd be real
Speaker 6: funny if we cut my hair like Coolio.
Speaker 4: Remember he had all the braids. Yes, so we did it,
Speaker 4: and I did. That was my hair for about a year.
Speaker 6: This is in the time. This is the picture of
Speaker 6: my dad wouldn't talk to me anymore. No, there's no pictures.
Speaker 5: There's no pictures of that.
Speaker 4: I doubt it were a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I've seen a picture.
Speaker 2: I've got one picture of you on Mike on one
Speaker 2: with these old computers, and it's you with a shaved
Speaker 2: beard and you're so sit back and I think you
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 3: You have maybe the there's no way as the coolio directing.
Speaker 6: I'm pretty this would have been I would have been
Speaker 6: fourteen years old, I mean fifteen or.
Speaker 4: Something like that. But we would drive to Uh, we
Speaker 4: would drive to Memphis. There was the New Daisy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I played.
Speaker 4: Music tron Jam. I had music tron Jam.
Speaker 6: And there was a band called Crayon or not b
Speaker 6: R five four nine Beach seven twenty six or something.
Speaker 4: They played that thing and uh.
Speaker 3: Was that the Savannah guys the uh maybe they've played
Speaker 3: around name dude.
Speaker 6: There's three or four bands that played those all the time,
Speaker 6: and they hated us because we were like super.
Speaker 1: Like they're pretty.
Speaker 5: That was two brothers.
Speaker 4: They was always do like Paul Simon's songs.
Speaker 3: You know these guys.
Speaker 5: We've talked about these.
Speaker 6: I know and I can't remember the name of the band,
Speaker 6: but the rot No not pro te seventy six, that
Speaker 6: was my I was in that band.
Speaker 4: No, you're talking about Eli. That Provincia, Provincia, Nathan Provincia, Yeah,
Speaker 4: our band with them. It was Kevin White.
Speaker 6: Who works over here at the music school, the recording store.
Speaker 4: Kevin works over there. He's from sartists, not artists. Some
Speaker 4: one of those was a three piece band and Nathan Provincia,
Speaker 4: who's a teacher now, which he always said he was
Speaker 4: gonna be a teacher. And the name of that band
Speaker 4: was boy Boy Evan what's.
Speaker 3: The name of that band?
Speaker 6: And we played around we're super super punk band man uh.
Speaker 6: And I think too because now I'm doing it as
Speaker 6: a parent. That was my rebellion towards my parents because
Speaker 6: I couldn't find anything to REBELLI against.
Speaker 4: Right Musically, it's like, well, what if I just like
Speaker 4: only listen to dead Kennedy song? Will that make you mad?
Speaker 4: So that's what I did, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And it's like black flag and bad religion and all
Speaker 6: those things for Gazi and all that.
Speaker 4: That's what we kind of did.
Speaker 6: And that seemed to because Nirvana didn't do it. My
Speaker 6: mom liked nirmana you know, she was like, oh no,
Speaker 6: he's pretty good, like he's kind of.
Speaker 3: Us.
Speaker 6: But all that Nirvana stuff kind of sent you towards
Speaker 6: that anyway, you know what I mean, if you start
Speaker 6: digging in those Jesus Lizards and some of those they
Speaker 6: did tracks with and uh, anyway, I don't know how
Speaker 6: I got on that.
Speaker 4: I think because y'all were making fun of me.
Speaker 3: But you were a punky dude.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the first music. And I remember I
Speaker 6: remember singing with her band, uh, like they would do
Speaker 6: their practice or whatever, and god, this is horrible.
Speaker 4: This is how young I was.
Speaker 6: Remember that band Striper, Remember them. It was like a
Speaker 6: Christian like cair metal rock band.
Speaker 5: Pretty good, honestly, they're pretty good.
Speaker 6: They had a song I think it was called Honestly
Speaker 6: Honestly I believe, and I would sing that with the band,
Speaker 6: not on stage, just practice, just in practice. But Josh
Speaker 6: would always get up and they would do the drum solo.
Speaker 3: Song wipe Out. He was the singer pretty much this song.
Speaker 3: That song only says wipe out, right, it is that yah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought you may even just stand there and say
Speaker 3: wipe out, and then they would play the song, even
Speaker 3: play the drums.
Speaker 4: So we almost did it. And then in high school too, we.
Speaker 3: Had for the record. Johnsh is Jonathan's older brother, who
Speaker 3: is arguably.
Speaker 5: The greatest singer I've ever sat in a room with.
Speaker 5: That kid is he is the next level.
Speaker 3: Something I really related a lot to like when people
Speaker 3: say they hear like George Jones and they're like, you
Speaker 3: could hear like the Pain and like that. There's there's
Speaker 3: this argument that George Jones is the greatest country singer
Speaker 3: of all times, and the argument is made on the
Speaker 3: fact that you can almost like hear his life through
Speaker 3: his voice. Kind of feel that way about johnsh a
Speaker 3: little bit sure, but there's this natural, gravelly thing that
Speaker 3: when most people sing with that gravel, they don't have
Speaker 3: the control that Josh acts, and Josh is control of
Speaker 3: that rough vocal is like poetic. I mean, I hate
Speaker 3: to be that guy to say that word, but it is.
Speaker 3: It's he also won't We can get real nerdy on this.
Speaker 4: While we were all trying to find our thing, he
Speaker 4: like had his thing. He already like.
Speaker 5: He's gonna always to that thing too.
Speaker 4: He's always always kind of stuck at it. And it
Speaker 4: was like he found his voice before anybody else found
Speaker 4: their voice.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't like.
Speaker 4: Anybody else's well no where, even mine was like well,
Speaker 4: it's a little bit of this and a little bit
Speaker 4: of that, a little bit of this. His was always like,
Speaker 4: oh man, when he does that, it just felt so real.
Speaker 4: It's so real. Yeah, man, that's great, which also made
Speaker 4: it kind of not working Nashville when he was you know,
Speaker 4: he had a polishing deal here was writing around and
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and it was just.
Speaker 3: It was almost too cool.
Speaker 5: It was almost to me. Yeah, it was almost too good.
Speaker 6: I mean, he understood the game and the things that
Speaker 6: we had to do and you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: and all that stuff. And once he kind of figured
Speaker 6: that out, he was like, man, I might go do
Speaker 6: something else.
Speaker 3: There's nothing nothing wrong with that. Man. Sure, It's kind
Speaker 3: of like where your mom said, it just wasn't her
Speaker 3: path right.
Speaker 1: Tell us about The Grove.
Speaker 2: When did at what point did you get involved with
Speaker 2: with your band The Grove to having been a house
Speaker 2: band in Jackson, Tennessee for all those years to eventually
Speaker 2: making the the moved up for it to national story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we weren't far from Nashville, was the
Speaker 4: nice thing. So when Josh was singing Josh saying, and
Speaker 4: I played drums in his band for four years. They're
Speaker 4: called smoking jackets, and we did.
Speaker 6: Josh was kind of the dude that told us what
Speaker 6: to do and what to wear, and how to talk
Speaker 6: and how to do all these things.
Speaker 4: Here's how you book a gig, here's how you set
Speaker 4: up the PA, here's what we want.
Speaker 6: He was kind of he was running all that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so we kind of saw those things happen. And in
Speaker 6: that time period too, if you remember that was in
Speaker 6: Jackson there was full devil jacket, but in Memphis there
Speaker 6: was like saliva and some of them they were kind
Speaker 6: of doing good in that thing, and they were super
Speaker 6: aware of us. Memphis at that time music scene was
Speaker 6: a lot like Nashville is now, Like everybody's kind of
Speaker 6: doing different stuff. We were playing more on Bill Street
Speaker 6: than those guys were playing like in midtown.
Speaker 3: Memphis had made had cranked up about about mid nineties too,
Speaker 3: and that.
Speaker 5: Was that was they're bringing some good, big bands.
Speaker 6: And so we played a lot on Bill Street, in
Speaker 6: a lot around Memphis, and a lot in those clubs,
Speaker 6: the same clubs that they were playing in. And it
Speaker 6: was kind of like not traditional blues, but it was
Speaker 6: blues forward.
Speaker 4: It was kind of blues travel. I mean, he played
Speaker 4: harmonica and same.
Speaker 6: Blues Traveler wasn't out at the time, but it was
Speaker 6: kind of that like a buddy version of that. Anyway,
Speaker 6: So from there we had done showcases for like Interscope,
Speaker 6: which is what Saliva and those guys were on. Uh,
Speaker 6: they had seen us play a thing and they get
Speaker 6: a guy out, and so we did two or three
Speaker 6: showcases and things are starting move forward there. I'm probably
Speaker 6: eighteen seventeen eighteen at that time, and things to kind
Speaker 6: of start and move forward. And then there was the
Speaker 6: Blues Traveler thing that kind of shut all that down,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, we got this cop this.
Speaker 6: There's a guy playing hame bonica here. We don't need
Speaker 6: this guy dirty home. And it was totally different. It
Speaker 6: wasn't like Blues Traveler. There's was a lot cleaner. I
Speaker 6: was a lot dirtier and swampier and blues leaning. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And so after that we kind of got into blues
Speaker 6: world a little bit and and you know, we played
Speaker 6: a lot of those things and we were the Memphis Reverence.
Speaker 6: We won a bunch of those blues competitions and things
Speaker 6: like that and played with a lot of those bands
Speaker 6: that this is the growth. No, this is smoking jacket.
Speaker 6: So in that meantime we have been playing Jackson two,
Speaker 6: which which led you to you know, start will Oxford Memphis. Yeah,
Speaker 6: below all of those of this big surmounding are probably
Speaker 6: up to Indiana, back down Florida, and we would play
Speaker 6: AJ's in Florida do Panama City and you'd run all
Speaker 6: that big circle with a casino popped in the middle
Speaker 6: so you could pay for everything, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So at that time, you're slinging CDs, you know, slinging CDs,
Speaker 6: and you got one gig that's a cover gig that
Speaker 6: pays all the bills, and then you go play you know,
Speaker 6: original gigs when you can. Anyway, So we were doing
Speaker 6: all that and playing Jackson some and Josh, my brother, Josh,
Speaker 6: met this girl from France in Panama City, so we
Speaker 6: play this show. He's falling in love with this girl.
Speaker 6: He's moving to France's moved to France. So when he
Speaker 6: got over to France, he played a bunch of blue
Speaker 6: stuff with a lot of pickup guys in there. There
Speaker 6: was no blues is huge in France, Wow, but.
Speaker 4: There's no blues.
Speaker 6: Guys that play the blues France blues. It is more
Speaker 6: jazzy than it is bluesy. It's not distorted and gross
Speaker 6: and meanly.
Speaker 4: We do it.
Speaker 6: It's more of a jazzy kinding. So Josh found this
Speaker 6: group of dudes that were American guys that would do
Speaker 6: pick up things. So this guy's coming over to France
Speaker 6: and he's going to do a string of shows.
Speaker 4: Josh would be the band, the backup man for that,
Speaker 4: for those blues guys that do things.
Speaker 6: So he goes and does all that, and we go, Okay,
Speaker 6: what are we gonna do. Well, we know a Boddy
Speaker 6: that plays drums, So why don't I just sing like
Speaker 6: I'll sing and play guitar because I play guitar and
Speaker 6: smoking jests, I play bass, all the things that you
Speaker 6: know nobody else would do, I would, I.
Speaker 2: Would do so at this point, at this point, the
Speaker 2: band and music is ingrained in you so much.
Speaker 4: Everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was no when he left, We're done.
Speaker 4: That was what we were doing.
Speaker 6: We were making a living playing music at that time. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So I started playing. I started playing guitar and singing,
Speaker 6: and we do that for it. And it was about
Speaker 6: seven years we played the same house gig. I would
Speaker 6: play Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, frist Saturday.
Speaker 3: Geez at Barley's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we play every night just about everybody.
Speaker 6: Yeah wow, And we we stayed there. We were that
Speaker 6: dude took catch the named Jerry Gay that owned that bar,
Speaker 6: and he took care of us and you know, kept
Speaker 6: us out of trouble probably cut.
Speaker 3: You're playing like as far as like playing teeth in
Speaker 3: that bar, I was because we knew I mean commercial
Speaker 3: commercial playing right.
Speaker 4: Because and you're also in Jackson, which is two hours
Speaker 4: from Nashville, hour and a half from Memphis, right, So
Speaker 4: you're playing blues, you're playing country, you're playing rock, you're
Speaker 4: playing rap songs, you're playing everything. You know you did
Speaker 4: it too, you know, so we knew all of those things.
Speaker 6: So in all of that, this is the short version
Speaker 6: of the story. In all of that, Whitney Duncan, who's
Speaker 6: my cousin, got a record deal. We started backing her
Speaker 6: up and we were her backup band. Ash Bowers did
Speaker 6: a showcase in in uh in Jackson, and we were
Speaker 6: his band for a lot of those things. A guy
Speaker 6: named Brad Cotter, we were back up man. And then
Speaker 6: that segue into a lot of the American Idol things.
Speaker 4: We did backup man.
Speaker 6: We were backup man for a lot of those guys,
Speaker 6: and so we were coming to Nashville all the time.
Speaker 1: Explained backup band for we would be.
Speaker 6: The setup band, like we because we read charts and
Speaker 6: we played, you know, like from school, from the campus country.
Speaker 4: We learned to do all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So so a showcase or something like that they needed
Speaker 2: if they needed a band, yeah, or on tour.
Speaker 4: We toured with a lot of those guys were we
Speaker 4: were the guys that could ride the bus. Shut your mouth,
Speaker 4: do your job, get your gear out of the way.
Speaker 6: We knew that gig, especially by that time Williams playing
Speaker 6: drums for us.
Speaker 5: It's just super important. Actually, I mean, as far as
Speaker 5: learning that.
Speaker 6: Is the hardest part is riding the bus. The playing
Speaker 6: the gig is the best part. Does that mint skill
Speaker 6: that said the hardest part.
Speaker 5: Is he said, you got to learn to ride the
Speaker 5: Bus's sonny.
Speaker 6: So you don't like the set, nobody cares if you
Speaker 6: don't like the set. You know what I mean, you're
Speaker 6: the guitar player. Play guitar on the songs. They don't
Speaker 6: pay me to play to ride the busy. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 6: So that that thing kind of got us in the
Speaker 6: national and by that time, you know, is twenty something,
Speaker 6: late twenties, and we kind of see, oh man, we
Speaker 6: can like, we could probably do that, so we'll start
Speaker 6: writing songs with some guys from Jackson.
Speaker 5: But your late twenties, your stuff was already moving.
Speaker 4: Man, Like we were regionally everybody knew who we were.
Speaker 3: And I'll do the bragging because I know you're not
Speaker 3: going to do it like there were they were.
Speaker 5: The Grove was the cool.
Speaker 3: Band of like the touring bands that came through. Because
Speaker 3: I had just gotten to college, it was this has
Speaker 3: been otewish uh. When I graduated and went to Northeast
Speaker 3: and I kept hearing about this guy that was in
Speaker 3: the in the group. So Jonathan and I both got
Speaker 3: scholarships to put to be in this group on campus.
Speaker 3: Sorry that one hit hard, Yeah, put.
Speaker 5: The brand.
Speaker 3: Anyway. It was at Northeast Community College. Got in this group.
Speaker 3: Jonathan was before us. We heard he had a band
Speaker 3: and they were playing. We snuck into the zoo. I
Speaker 3: was eighteen. Oh wow, No, only snuck us in the
Speaker 3: back door of the zoo, not the actual zoo, the club.
Speaker 4: It was a zoo.
Speaker 3: How rough were the to that place?
Speaker 4: That was rough? Man? I took a body down there
Speaker 4: one time and I told him my whole way. I
Speaker 4: said him up, where's where?
Speaker 5: But it ain't like it ain't like Benjamin or something downtown.
Speaker 6: It was Yeah, it's a club club, literal bar bouncer.
Speaker 4: The big dude that we swim was a big burn. No,
Speaker 4: because he's a bodybuilder. For what swam Mitch Mitch. I
Speaker 4: can't remember his name, something Mitch, big guy.
Speaker 6: Anyway, I told this guy all the way down, I said,
Speaker 6: hey man, this is a different kind of club man.
Speaker 6: You can't you can't be talking trashing here.
Speaker 4: Man. We ain't even got set up yet, and he's
Speaker 4: getting beat up at the bar. We didn't got set
Speaker 4: up yet. And then I kicked him out, him out
Speaker 4: and Mitch was out there. I said, hey man, dude,
Speaker 4: he's I do This guy is like, this guy's a man.
Speaker 4: He was like, well, just so you know, man, we
Speaker 4: kind of we kind of gave it to him a little.
Speaker 3: Bit, really rough up.
Speaker 4: He came back in shut that mouth to learn to
Speaker 4: watch your mouth.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. They were the cool man. They pop
Speaker 3: a little bit. Next thing we know he's playing pulled
Speaker 3: off bash or something that's startable. I remember you at
Speaker 3: Missippi State. You came down. I met you. You had braces,
Speaker 3: your hair was straight, like straight and straight like somebody
Speaker 3: had hooked. You were doing the thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, got me braces for a second time. I had them.
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, it's the second.
Speaker 3: Time, dude, didn't you didn't they have some like and
Speaker 3: didn't they crank them like a lot of.
Speaker 4: I also lost about thirty pounds in that thing too.
Speaker 1: That was record deal time, right, that's record deal time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, you loved Record Deal.
Speaker 1: What was the moment?
Speaker 3: What was the moment where it kind of parallels your
Speaker 3: mom's story, which is crazy.
Speaker 5: I never knew that was.
Speaker 2: What was the moment where you were like, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna I'm not going to be on the road. I'm
Speaker 2: not This is not the life I want for me
Speaker 2: from my from my eventual future family.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you already have hits by then?
Speaker 4: I had? I had four number ones riding in a van,
Speaker 4: sleeping in the floor and on a bean bag with
Speaker 4: a uh what's that called the sleeping bag.
Speaker 1: That'll make you make the decision?
Speaker 4: And I did airplane watching airplanes.
Speaker 6: Why don't we just dance red light and don't yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 6: And no way at all to spend any money, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. I just have time to do anything.
Speaker 6: It was about a year before because you know, I
Speaker 6: also came up with my band. I wanted to be
Speaker 6: a band.
Speaker 5: We were a band.
Speaker 4: It was the Grove. It wasn't Jonathan Singleton the Grove.
Speaker 4: It was the Grove.
Speaker 6: And I wanted it to be that way, and I
Speaker 6: tried really really hard for it to be that way.
Speaker 6: But in all of that, also and d my band.
Speaker 6: You know you had a great band too. My band
Speaker 6: was their killer.
Speaker 1: That's some of the best musicians you'll ever hear in
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 4: And they're still playing. A lot of those guys still
Speaker 4: playing around. And you know, none of the placed with
Speaker 4: with Luke and and and Jamie and Jamie.
Speaker 3: B and Jhonathan were part of a strange I can't
Speaker 3: even really explain it, collection of players, writers, artists, singers,
Speaker 3: and I think we were all like making each other
Speaker 3: better without knowing we were doing that, and we just
Speaker 3: thought we were pretty good. And then we always hear
Speaker 3: how we're gonna get smoked when we come to Nashville,
Speaker 3: and then we came and smoked these cats right, and
Speaker 3: we were like, damn, we are pretty like our.
Speaker 4: Bands are doing good.
Speaker 6: Man, it's different, different that West Tennessee groove. Just it's
Speaker 6: a little bit different than everybody else.
Speaker 4: There's just a.
Speaker 3: Stink that lives on it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: People talk about it all the time when they talk
Speaker 3: about writing with you, or write with Reed, or write
Speaker 3: with Jamie, or what Nonley does or what Willie does
Speaker 3: or what Sambo does. I mean, it's like that thing
Speaker 3: is all over us.
Speaker 2: West Tennessee is a melting pot of He said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you've got Yeah, there's there's Memphis, There's there's
Speaker 2: the Shoals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were I mean did the same thing y'all
Speaker 3: are do y'all remember the stuff we play? I mean
Speaker 3: you would you'd play. I mean, we would play old
Speaker 3: habits and then turn around and play some Stevie Wonder
Speaker 3: song too.
Speaker 6: We do Whiskey River and then do a Bob Marley
Speaker 6: song right after Sam, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And that's what it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't know that that was weird. I
Speaker 3: didn't know it was weird or different because that's what
Speaker 3: was playing on them.
Speaker 4: Man. Yeah, hey, by the way, let me tell you this.
Speaker 6: Sambo, who was who was my road manager, my drummer's brother,
Speaker 6: our sound guy's son, move.
Speaker 5: To me every day. I wrote at at your house.
Speaker 6: So he stays, but he doesn't say that he lives
Speaker 6: close to us. But my garage has become Sambo's garage.
Speaker 6: And everybody asked, you know, is said, okay, if I
Speaker 6: take some of Sambo's tools, you know, which are my tools?
Speaker 4: He's over all the time. But I saw him this morning.
Speaker 4: It was seven fifteen and it's.
Speaker 6: Up come around the morning right there, and I see.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, Sambo's here, and he was in
Speaker 6: there doing something that he got nominated this year for
Speaker 6: c M a Stage.
Speaker 4: Manager of the Year.
Speaker 1: Stage stage manages for Church.
Speaker 3: How can we make him? How can we told him?
Speaker 4: Who votes on that? He was like a voters tip,
Speaker 4: We're good, congratulations.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope he gets that. Man, he was pumped.
Speaker 6: So he's been when I got off the road, back
Speaker 6: to that thing. When I got off the road.
Speaker 4: We we toured.
Speaker 6: Almost not exclusively, but almost with Eric Church. Eric's wife
Speaker 6: signed me in my first publishing deal. We had the
Speaker 6: same lawyer, the same book andage, the same managers everything,
Speaker 6: and so through that, you know, time of him moving
Speaker 6: from clubs to sheds to what he's doing now, we
Speaker 6: were in between end of clubs and getting into sheds
Speaker 6: and we were opened up for him.
Speaker 4: I don't know how.
Speaker 6: Many dates we did with those guys, but they were
Speaker 6: so sweet to us and so nice man and Eric
Speaker 6: still is.
Speaker 5: And basically it just became friends for life.
Speaker 6: Right, So when I everybody knew I was getting off
Speaker 6: the road a year before that happened. So you know,
Speaker 6: Sambo started working with Eric at that time and he
Speaker 6: still worked for him.
Speaker 4: I guess it's been thirteen fourteen years quit, But yeah,
Speaker 4: I knew before that. The only reason I kept playing
Speaker 4: on the road. We did the last it was called a.
Speaker 6: Country Throwdown tour, and so we we got on that
Speaker 6: tour because I knew the people that put it on.
Speaker 6: Kevin Lyman was the guy putting it on with Sarah Bear.
Speaker 3: And Kate and all them.
Speaker 6: You know, That's how we got on that tour. But
Speaker 6: on that tour was Brad Tercy. You know, a man
Speaker 6: who was Eric was on.
Speaker 3: That tour place. Yeah, Drake White was he out there?
Speaker 4: Drake what he was just the next year on that thing.
Speaker 6: Logan mine, Yeah, I know, Logan he wasn't not the
Speaker 6: year the first year that we were on there.
Speaker 3: Oh it was Kip Moore on that No, I remember
Speaker 3: it was Florida George Line too.
Speaker 6: They were this second year, yeah, second year. Oh, Tyler
Speaker 6: Reeve was on that thing. Anyway, A bunch of buddies
Speaker 6: that we that we still work with, so we also,
Speaker 6: I didn't play with the band, but my band would
Speaker 6: just back up other people in that things. Emily West
Speaker 6: was on that tour, so they played with us and
Speaker 6: then they played with Emily West, which uh, he just
Speaker 6: doubled doubling down because we were we workhorses, man, and.
Speaker 4: Like, let's go dude, let's see if we're gonna be
Speaker 4: out here, let's go part.
Speaker 6: So we started day. Bahanish was on that tour, so
Speaker 6: we started. We knew we were not hanging on to
Speaker 6: that thing, so we were like, flip flops and shorts, man,
Speaker 6: let's go out there. And hey, Sarah Buxton and Jed
Speaker 6: Hughes are out there out here too, Let's get them up.
Speaker 6: But they sing a song that was our whole set,
Speaker 6: that Dapahanah Sarah Bucks and Jed Hughes, Brad Tersey and
Speaker 6: then we played.
Speaker 4: A couple of songs that we get off.
Speaker 3: It was so much fun.
Speaker 4: It was the last year of our tour, and on
Speaker 4: that tour too, we took we finally got on by
Speaker 4: got a bus. The label didn't paid for.
Speaker 6: It, and so that was the last one and it
Speaker 6: was like, hey, everybody knew, hey, when we get done
Speaker 6: with the thing, like I'm done, dude, I'm out. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna write songs like I'm not doing this anymore. And
Speaker 6: so we come back after Christmas Break and Big what
Speaker 6: was the name of the level, Universal South? Universal South
Speaker 6: was job Level. Well, over Christmas Break they had flipped
Speaker 6: over the show Dog. So now Toby had taken that
Speaker 6: over and they have all these new acts that they're
Speaker 6: going to come in with, and that was seemed like
Speaker 6: a perfect time for us to just be like, hey, man,
Speaker 6: I just want to write songs. And I did for
Speaker 6: a very very long time, just like production wasn't even
Speaker 6: a thing, man, I mean, production back in those days
Speaker 6: were big, giant producer, did.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? It was like Stroud and
Speaker 4: all those dudes were still around.
Speaker 6: It still was Frank and you know all the Franks,
Speaker 6: name of Frank, he was producing a big rip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that wasn't even an option.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to write songs and that felt like
Speaker 6: simplifying my life, like in a giant way. And you know,
Speaker 6: maybe I cannot have anxiety about writing songs every day.
Speaker 4: And I didn't, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: And fast forward to twenty twenty three, Man fifteen number ones,
Speaker 2: seven number ones is as a producer, a couple of
Speaker 2: Grammy nomination nominations, part owner in a publishing company that
Speaker 2: I work for that I write.
Speaker 1: For with with what with right right with us?
Speaker 5: You're not my boss?
Speaker 2: By they now getting off the road. Did you ever
Speaker 2: question what you were going to do? Was all this
Speaker 2: in line for you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Were you ever wanting to be a producer? Were you
Speaker 1: ever wanting to own a polishing company?
Speaker 3: Were you ever? Dude? Let me say this before you
Speaker 3: even answered, you were already producing, like you were, you
Speaker 3: were producing, You were on your way to producing the
Speaker 3: entire time we were even writing.
Speaker 6: Well, I still call it helping and not producing. Sometimes
Speaker 6: I call it producing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you were producer.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but I was helping. I was helping a lot.
Speaker 6: I mean I helped, you know. We did a bunch
Speaker 6: of those when people were needed some things to do.
Speaker 6: And we had that studio over in East Nashville. There
Speaker 6: was two incarnations of that studio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the first projects Whitney's.
Speaker 4: We did Whitney stuff. We did Josh Hog.
Speaker 6: We did a bunch of stuff with him and a
Speaker 6: bunch of people in that time that We're like, man,
Speaker 6: they're not really getting the love that they need, Like
Speaker 6: maybe maybe we can help in some way.
Speaker 4: I was helping.
Speaker 6: I was always helping, but no I had I think
Speaker 6: what I did too is and you guys did the
Speaker 6: same exact thing.
Speaker 4: And we talked about this.
Speaker 6: A bunch of times when y'all were starting to come
Speaker 6: to town on saying is like, hey man, we're we're
Speaker 6: we're in Nashville. What we got that some of these
Speaker 6: guys don't have is an insane work ethic, you know,
Speaker 6: to go, here's an opportunity. Hey, what time you want
Speaker 6: me to be there, I'll be there early. Do you
Speaker 6: need me to bring some coffee?
Speaker 4: What you need to do? It's like, well, you know,
Speaker 4: so that was the whole way for me.
Speaker 6: It's like if there was an opportunity, and I still
Speaker 6: do that, like if there's I'm interested in all things. Man,
Speaker 6: I want to hear there's a partnership here, this can
Speaker 6: help this, And I've always done done that, I think
Speaker 6: is what I did, the only thing I did right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I would I hear what you're saying, But
Speaker 3: I don't think you give yourself enough credit on the
Speaker 3: influence that you've had on a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 3: And I mean that in the sense of.
Speaker 1: Like not even just probably musical lives either.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, but I'm speaking specifically musical, Like there's no
Speaker 3: way we would be in this town for you, There's
Speaker 3: no no I mean we we always loved music, but
Speaker 3: but there was no avenue, man. And and and I've
Speaker 3: honestly taken that into consideration for my life, Like how
Speaker 3: do I want to be I want to help, Like
Speaker 3: I want to give guys that don't have a chance
Speaker 3: a chance. Man.
Speaker 5: And that's what you did, whether that was hey man.
Speaker 3: Sleep on my couch to night, or hey dude, we're
Speaker 3: ordering pizza, come on over, or hey man.
Speaker 1: Go in half hers on a sailboat with me. That's
Speaker 1: almost drowned a few times.
Speaker 3: Jonathan a few times, But I really I admire who
Speaker 3: you are as a friend, as as a person, But
Speaker 3: just objectively speaking, I don't know. I think at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, one day you're going to be
Speaker 3: more proud of that than you are.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I am. I just can't. I don't. I
Speaker 4: would never take care I.
Speaker 3: Know, which is why I wanted to say that me in.
Speaker 6: Case you're super aware that we have helped some people,
Speaker 6: you know, just not be terrified. It was that big
Speaker 6: giant Nashville wall, you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, impossible to get over.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just need a fist through that saying and dude,
Speaker 6: we had these conversations for us. Hey man, I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna I'm not opening the door.
Speaker 3: For you here.
Speaker 1: It is right, It's your job to open it and.
Speaker 4: Through you do whatever you want to do, make out
Speaker 4: whatever you.
Speaker 3: Want to make And maybe we're speaking metaphorically, but literally,
Speaker 3: like there were times where he was like, hey man,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call this guy, this guy, and this guy.
Speaker 3: They have access to this writer, this writer, this writer,
Speaker 3: this writer, and this writer. They're not going to put
Speaker 3: you with the top guys. They're gonna put you with
Speaker 3: the bottom guys, and if you're willing to write and
Speaker 3: continue to write great songs, you will work your way
Speaker 3: up that ladder.
Speaker 5: I hope that isn't lost.
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe that's a little lost today in
Speaker 3: this writing culture because it's almost like you have to
Speaker 3: have it all figured out before they even give you
Speaker 3: a shot. As to where I feel like ours was
Speaker 3: learning the craft, like you put me through the ringer
Speaker 3: of guys that wanted to get you on a couch
Speaker 3: and talk to you for eight hours and not even
Speaker 3: write a song. Or maybe this guy, but that guy
Speaker 3: was a great songwriter. And if you get and if
Speaker 3: you can get through that, you're gonna get to a
Speaker 3: great song.
Speaker 5: It may take you three days.
Speaker 4: You got to learn how to get a great song
Speaker 4: out of.
Speaker 3: That, because what that teaches you to do is get
Speaker 3: a great song with everybody, and fifteen years down the road,
Speaker 3: you're trying to get the.
Speaker 6: Same as writing with an artist, right.
Speaker 3: Some artists, artistists show that we are super aware of
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 5: You know a lot of them are.
Speaker 3: You're correct, But I feel like that is the strongest
Speaker 3: foundation that a writer in this town can have working
Speaker 3: through I didn't know it at the time. It's super annoying,
Speaker 3: it's super well, I don't Jonathan just write me every day,
Speaker 3: you know, but you have because you have to go
Speaker 3: through the ringer of how to deal and get a
Speaker 3: song with everybody, not just somebody that will carry you through.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I had the artist deal, so I skipped
Speaker 6: a lot of steps and when I when I got
Speaker 6: in which when I got here too, I was.
Speaker 4: Completely by myself.
Speaker 6: Man, yea, like, so I've been all ways aware of that,
Speaker 6: like of how nice it would be. Jim Bieber's man
Speaker 6: still picks up my phone calls and he knows I'm
Speaker 6: going to ask him questions every time, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. And that was the only guy had But
Speaker 6: it took me writing with him a bunch of times
Speaker 6: for him to be that guy to be like, hey, man,
Speaker 6: how do I the same things?
Speaker 4: Everybody asks everything? Man? How do I get in these rooms? Man?
Speaker 4: How what am I doing wrong? Why is this?
Speaker 6: Why is this not this? And why is this this?
Speaker 6: All of those things. I was super aware that I
Speaker 6: had to kind of find my dudes to do that with,
Speaker 6: and how much I wanted to be one of those
Speaker 6: guys for somebody, you know, which leads you into publishing
Speaker 6: world and all those things like that. But still it's
Speaker 6: kind of from a from a distance, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean, And I can just I'm just gonna show
Speaker 6: because I don't want to. I don't want to be
Speaker 6: standing up here years from now if you're successful and
Speaker 6: it's like, well, hey, taking credit for things that I
Speaker 6: didn't do, And that.
Speaker 4: Feels weird to me too.
Speaker 6: It's like, because I I felt a lot of pride
Speaker 6: for making that, making that through that terrifying time sure
Speaker 6: of trying.
Speaker 4: To do that.
Speaker 5: To me, that's the biggest triumph.
Speaker 6: Allowing that new writer or artist or whatever to have
Speaker 6: that for themselves.
Speaker 4: It is what keeps you kind of hanging on.
Speaker 3: I said, we went to church the other day and
Speaker 3: the guy talking and he said he got to a point.
Speaker 3: He was talking about finance, of course, and he said, uh, man,
Speaker 3: with new levels come new devils. And I was like, dude,
Speaker 3: that's so true. And it's like even in the music business,
Speaker 3: it's like every time there was a new level, there
Speaker 3: was a new question. But I always knew I could
Speaker 3: ask you that because you had already been You were
Speaker 3: always just a little bit of.
Speaker 4: A level which I'm calling somebody else, and I've already
Speaker 4: asked that question. Correct, I've already asked Bethard or Jim
Speaker 4: or you know what what is?
Speaker 3: I remember literally calling you, going, can you explain to
Speaker 3: me what co publishing even is?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 3: Like, I know I've had a post.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, had a deal for eight years, but
Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening, so it's never come out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I only know the things that have come up with
Speaker 3: each new level. I feel like there are more and
Speaker 3: more questions, But it is imperative to have somebody that
Speaker 3: you can bounce without some sort of game, like you
Speaker 3: had nothing to gain from You're just genuinely concerned about
Speaker 3: the betterhood of my life.
Speaker 6: Right well, and also trying to find somebody in town
Speaker 6: that you can ask those questions that you know you're
Speaker 6: going to get an answer that it's for your best
Speaker 6: interests and not there and not their best interests. And
Speaker 6: that's hard to find, man, that is hard to find.
Speaker 3: It it is. We could talk forever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew. Are we going to cover some ground
Speaker 4: we had never covered before?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: All right, tell us, uh, tell us a story like
Speaker 2: the best story you have about behind one of your
Speaker 2: one of your hits, one of your tunes that, yeah,
Speaker 2: that you've had.
Speaker 5: He's gonna love this question.
Speaker 4: You should just do you should just do the first one.
Speaker 4: I think. I was still in Jackson, Tennessee. I was.
Speaker 4: Me and Casey were still there. We've been married for.
Speaker 6: Nineteen years now, so wow, we were still there. She
Speaker 6: wanted to go to oh Moore, which is a design
Speaker 6: school there in Franklin, and I, you know how guys
Speaker 6: like us are. I said, well, I've got a guy
Speaker 6: that can fix my air conditioner or you know, change
Speaker 6: the carburetor or do other things like that.
Speaker 4: So I'm kind of kind want to stay here. It's
Speaker 4: two hours. I can drive Manday Tuesday Weds. I sleep
Speaker 4: on some mass couch.
Speaker 6: I did that for about two years and all that stuff.
Speaker 6: So me and Jim right watching airplanes and so when how.
Speaker 3: Does that song even come about? To ject your hook?
Speaker 6: Because no, no, no, it was completely his man real. The
Speaker 6: interesting thing about that song is he had watching airplanes.
Speaker 4: He said, you ever go out to the thing. We've
Speaker 4: had this conversation for you ever go out to the
Speaker 4: thing and watch like airplanes? I was, I don't have
Speaker 4: any idea.
Speaker 6: What you're talking about, we don't know live nowhere near
Speaker 6: in the airport anyway. He said, well, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm talking about. I was like, yeah, I know what
Speaker 6: you're talking about. So he had written down on a
Speaker 6: piece of paper and pencil, sitting out here on the
Speaker 6: hood of this truck, looking up under a caramel colored
Speaker 6: sunset sky. That's what he had. And then down here
Speaker 6: it said it said watching airplanes strong half. And I
Speaker 6: was like, I'm so in, I'm so in. The beautiful
Speaker 6: thing about me and Jim writing at that time is
Speaker 6: I had no idea, any rules, no idea.
Speaker 4: Jim knew them all. And but he was also smart
Speaker 4: enough to go.
Speaker 3: Like, this is a little reckless than I want this a.
Speaker 4: Little too much. Yeah, this is okay, this is okay.
Speaker 6: I remember it's writing a song about being high you
Speaker 6: know whatever that line is.
Speaker 4: Fence is too high, and so am I. He's like,
Speaker 4: I don't know if we can do that. You know,
Speaker 4: we talked about being high on but it ude, it's
Speaker 4: like a thing now.
Speaker 1: It's kind of sneaky, you kind of put it in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6: But what Jim he had this little thing and at
Speaker 6: that time and probably in.
Speaker 4: Hindsight because he was so annoyed with my process.
Speaker 6: He would kind of set these little things parameters of
Speaker 6: what it should be, and he would just leave the room.
Speaker 6: So I'm in the room working on a chorus which
Speaker 6: I have changed keys because they call me ma'am and
Speaker 6: the drive through and my voice is real high, Jim's
Speaker 6: is real low. So I had changed keys from what
Speaker 6: he was doing. So when he pops back in the room,
Speaker 6: he goes, oh, dude, a key change.
Speaker 4: That's a great idea, man. So the chorus changes keys
Speaker 4: and watching airplanes.
Speaker 3: Prove it, prove it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's easy, man.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't remember what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: So what are you? What are you playing in?
Speaker 4: So where we started was in g right, sitting down
Speaker 4: here on the hood of this truck and looking up,
Speaker 4: and then you're playing the flight seven. I im caramel colors.
Speaker 5: Your flat seven is just what's not one for?
Speaker 4: It's flat seven in the verse. So when you get
Speaker 4: to the chorus, you're going, I'm just sitting out here
Speaker 4: watching the airplanes. Let me get to the back. It's
Speaker 4: too hot.
Speaker 6: So uh trug looking up caramel color, son, says this
Speaker 6: guy checking.
Speaker 4: My watch, doing the math in my head, counting back
Speaker 4: when you say goodbye. Oh, so here's where you start
Speaker 4: spinning and the those one wed lights are getting bright
Speaker 4: flat seven still but now we go and I'm just.
Speaker 8: Sitting out here watching airplanes.
Speaker 4: So now it's the four.
Speaker 3: The flat seven is the four now, right.
Speaker 6: So that's why we got how it was nerdy and
Speaker 6: I didn't know how to do that.
Speaker 4: Jim knew how to do that. He made he take
Speaker 4: us back and fly. So here's how you get back
Speaker 4: trying to figure out which one my being and why
Speaker 4: you don't lie on me anymore. And I'm just I'm
Speaker 4: sitting down here and watching four. And then you go,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, which is my favorite.
Speaker 5: Part of that's the gets you back to the one.
Speaker 3: That's the path back to the war.
Speaker 2: So now you're back in G one being the root
Speaker 2: note right, Yeah, that's just like flat seven, one three,
Speaker 2: that's all national number.
Speaker 6: Stuff, right, Sorry, yes, nerd stuff.
Speaker 4: Anyway, So so we finished.
Speaker 3: That thing, I was like, wait, why are we talking
Speaker 3: about this?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 6: We immediately go demo it and I had I had
Speaker 6: a record deal at the time.
Speaker 4: I think we went in and played.
Speaker 3: That for we're people excited about that song. I was
Speaker 3: that was I'm sorry, we're people in positions of power
Speaker 3: excited about that.
Speaker 4: Not yet really not yet.
Speaker 6: No, I listened to I remember listening to it all
Speaker 6: the way home and telling Casey.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, we have this. Is it like this?
Speaker 4: If this ain't it, I don't know what's it like?
Speaker 5: This is what six of Probably yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, If this ain't it, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: And we listen to it all the way home, and
Speaker 4: I know she was sick of it at the time,
Speaker 4: that she was a care less about, you know, country
Speaker 4: music at all, you know anyway, So I immediately go.
Speaker 10: Play it for my guys at at Universe South. Mark
Speaker 10: Wright is the head of Universal South. He's also Gary
Speaker 10: Allen's producer. So we sit in the room and everybody
Speaker 10: kind of passes on this song. It's cool, man, it's
Speaker 10: probably I said, maybe not you you know, it's got
Speaker 10: that thing about being high.
Speaker 4: It's like you maybe too much for a new artist.
Speaker 4: You know, it's too far, it's.
Speaker 5: Too I understand that now.
Speaker 4: It's too much. It's very beatles driven all that stuff.
Speaker 4: It's too much, too nerdy, right.
Speaker 6: So which I understood and was like immediately walk out
Speaker 6: the door and immediately get the phone.
Speaker 4: Call from Mark right. He goes, hey, man, we're looking
Speaker 4: for a song for Gary. Man, we got this thing.
Speaker 4: It's like, can we cut this thing?
Speaker 6: And at the same time, Joe Fisher Jim Beavers has
Speaker 6: immediately like hit go on the thing.
Speaker 4: When I leave the meeting is like, hey, Jim, go
Speaker 4: play this for you know Joe. So now Joe's on board.
Speaker 4: Who's the head of mc A Universal all that stuff
Speaker 4: over there.
Speaker 6: Which is Gary's own and the producers on it, and
Speaker 6: it goes boom like real fast.
Speaker 4: They go, oh, so that means it's on hold, right,
Speaker 4: I was, I remember doing that, So now it's on hold.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, so I was like, do we so where
Speaker 4: do we cash this check? Where it's on hold? It's
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no no. But it also went really fast.
Speaker 6: That was my first hold on a song, my first
Speaker 6: cut on a song.
Speaker 4: My first single and everything. Dude, I had no idea
Speaker 4: what was happening, no idea?
Speaker 6: So when are we When are they going to pay us?
Speaker 6: I keep going, right, are they going money?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Is it gonna is somebody gonna bring a check over?
Speaker 6: Is there a briefcase that has much money. I'm really
Speaker 6: having no idea, So we kind of go down that line.
Speaker 6: And also you're still insanely broke, right, Yeah, so we're
Speaker 6: nine months down the road, you know, and it's like, wow,
Speaker 6: we're gonna you know, in this period of time I had,
Speaker 6: I couldn't teach guitar lessons and drum lessons based less anymore.
Speaker 6: I couldn't work in the studio. I couldn't do anything.
Speaker 5: Is that weird?
Speaker 3: How national does it makes?
Speaker 5: You have to give all that other where you don't.
Speaker 4: Man, you've got a backup playing you and the wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So and so the miss landlord is knocking on the doors,
Speaker 4: like man, it's like, I don't have any money. So
Speaker 4: I'm telling this guy Frank mcmehan is his name, Jackson.
Speaker 4: Guy is beautiful guy.
Speaker 6: And I would have been homeless if it was for
Speaker 6: that guy. He is, he's our landlord right there in Jackson.
Speaker 6: Remember that house house, Yeah, stretch for I didn't have
Speaker 6: wheels on it.
Speaker 4: That's what I like about it.
Speaker 6: But anyway, I would say, hey, man, we're we're you know,
Speaker 6: I'm getting a record deal and like publishing.
Speaker 4: Shore to kick this guy love the guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, so I got to single, I promise you're
Speaker 3: gonna hear me on.
Speaker 4: The radio nine months I did not pay rent nine months.
Speaker 6: I did not pay rent to this guy. And and
Speaker 6: y'all you you remember this, Like when that check gets
Speaker 6: in there, I go buy twenty twelve No. Two thousand
Speaker 6: and five, two thousand and five Dodge Magnums.
Speaker 3: That was the best sounding car.
Speaker 1: I think was mean, which I thought, dude, I was.
Speaker 4: And I pay this guy. I pay this guy.
Speaker 6: I think I had to borrow some money from ass
Speaker 6: cap to before that. And I pay frank nine months
Speaker 6: rent thing and here with so we're off leave that.
Speaker 6: So we the first time I heard watching airplanes on
Speaker 6: the radio.
Speaker 4: Though, back up just a little bit. First time I
Speaker 4: heard watching airplanes on the radio.
Speaker 6: We're literally packing our stuff up to move to Franklin.
Speaker 6: Little then as the first time I ever heard it
Speaker 6: on the radio, and I thought, how much like stuff,
Speaker 6: Like what an insane moment to hear that on the radio.
Speaker 6: Well years later, Casey's mom told us that she had
Speaker 6: she knew we were packing up, and she knew what radio.
Speaker 3: Requests.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, Yeah, all right, what's the what's the best
Speaker 2: country song of all time?
Speaker 4: Man watching Airplanes? I bet that.
Speaker 3: I bet it needs to be honorable mention on the
Speaker 3: playlist just because it's been talking.
Speaker 6: I have to do it this way because some of
Speaker 6: it goes favorite thing, I love everything so favorite old
Speaker 6: country song, favorite honkey talk.
Speaker 3: There's been some concern about the para. There's been some
Speaker 3: concern about the parameters, like even.
Speaker 4: With the best or favorite, what's the best.
Speaker 1: Country song in your mind? What's what's the best, what's
Speaker 1: the top?
Speaker 3: All right, let's see what's been taken, what's been taken.
Speaker 3: Let's let's knock out, because we need to do that
Speaker 3: that way. It's not I don't remember. Yeah, I can't either.
Speaker 4: If you say it ain't this one, okay, but you go.
Speaker 4: Natalie Wood gave her hard, James Dan come on, high
Speaker 4: school rib on the Teenage Queen.
Speaker 8: Keep it going, Standing Together and Angry Word, Angry World,
Speaker 8: got a chord wrong on it one f and firl.
Speaker 4: I want to be.
Speaker 9: I want to be like I promise you can't if
Speaker 9: you want to love me, I wanna be.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 7: I got chills on body first dance, your first first dance.
Speaker 7: That's a good that's my favorite one listening I'm about
Speaker 7: to listen.
Speaker 4: That they're playing that record.
Speaker 6: Man, that record, and it has to be in tandem
Speaker 6: with a couple of things that that was where that
Speaker 6: first Chris not at the same time Chris Knight record
Speaker 6: came out, Steve World. That Steve rol record had been
Speaker 6: out for a long time, uh, the second or third one.
Speaker 6: But also Shannon Doah there was so to me that
Speaker 6: was like three different versions. We got two different versions
Speaker 6: of country music altogether. But in that world like commercial
Speaker 6: country song give it to Me, Break my Heart, let
Speaker 6: me see that Under under the k was on that record,
Speaker 6: but also man like just in in.
Speaker 4: Commercial country, Man under the Kazoo is the beautiful.
Speaker 3: The bridge of under the Kudzoo is my favorite probably
Speaker 3: section of a singer grade.
Speaker 4: Man of Blood read slowle stiffy way give it. I
Speaker 4: don't know how to play it, so I think. So
Speaker 4: I laid on the hood of this oil camaro.
Speaker 3: That's the second. So I'll walk on over to the
Speaker 3: pit stuff marking and buy me a cool to drink,
Speaker 3: lay on the hood and so CAMEO wait for the sun.
Speaker 4: The scene We'll live all alone. Chicksaw County I don't
Speaker 4: want it. It's not chicken. I'm making chicks better than
Speaker 4: but with the girls here, she's a qualified a beautician.
Speaker 4: Come on, dude, get out of here.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that is important, that thing I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: But it's the time of the show for the long
Speaker 1: get out.
Speaker 4: It's close, man, Jazzy.
Speaker 2: All right, what we do it part of the show
Speaker 2: where we do the one that got away?
Speaker 1: It could be a fish, could be a deer, could
Speaker 1: be a girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hut away.
Speaker 6: I know this one. So probably year was jet born.
Speaker 6: He's twelve now, so he had just he's just born.
Speaker 6: We were running up to Missouri and y'all were there. Uh,
Speaker 6: we were finally running up to Missouri until like for
Speaker 6: real deer hunting, right, we ain't hunting. We ain't got
Speaker 6: no West Tennessee scrubs man for original.
Speaker 2: Before this trip, man, you drove to Kentucky to buy
Speaker 2: the bad Boy buggy for it was like real hunt,
Speaker 2: real Midwestern.
Speaker 4: By the way, I traded a guitar that had been
Speaker 4: given to me in an AMP for a four wheeler
Speaker 4: that then I traded for uh that bad Boy Buggers
Speaker 4: that then I traded for my first tractor that y'all got.
Speaker 3: After I got that, we sn and both sides weed.
Speaker 6: Sorry Fender road warn gave. I traded that guitar for
Speaker 6: a full bro. Anyway, So we're going up to Kentucky.
Speaker 6: We're not We're not talking about a six pointer.
Speaker 4: We're like half deer on. We're going.
Speaker 6: It's a great place. That was four hundred acre farm,
Speaker 6: wasn't it something like that? And so there's a big
Speaker 6: deer on there that we call Shot.
Speaker 3: I remember Shot, yeah, because his rack looked like a
Speaker 3: damn basketball.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 4: Even at that time. It's even know how to say
Speaker 4: he's one fifty years. We just knew it was dark,
Speaker 4: real big, I mean, just miss on the thing.
Speaker 3: Huge.
Speaker 6: So we go up and we hunt, and I think
Speaker 6: we had I don't. I can't remember what happened before that,
Speaker 6: but I remember getting out there early one day, it's
Speaker 6: probably one o'clock or something like that, and up the
Speaker 6: hill like, here's our property line is right, I'm sitting
Speaker 6: right on the property line, which is a.
Speaker 1: Huge cut corn field, baby being field.
Speaker 6: Our portion was a big cut corner bean which over
Speaker 6: and then but over on the left. If you remember,
Speaker 6: there was a big box blind and c r p
Speaker 6: up on the hill.
Speaker 4: Well, he chased the dough.
Speaker 6: For an hour up there, and you keep going like,
Speaker 6: she's gonna come this way, She's got to come this way.
Speaker 6: It's yeah, and I'm in I'm in the little corner section.
Speaker 5: He was going either to me or he was going
Speaker 5: to you, because we had the corners down.
Speaker 3: I remember this.
Speaker 6: And so we're waiting on the cross and he chases,
Speaker 6: and she'll go the other way and then she comes back. Well,
Speaker 6: by the time, dude, here she here, he comes here,
Speaker 6: she comes here, worked up?
Speaker 3: Worked you seeing a hundred inch deer to see it
Speaker 3: a one that there is all every day, every bit
Speaker 3: on one sees that's what I figured.
Speaker 1: That was a if that's the first one you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It looks like a turner is there.
Speaker 4: He might it might have been a unicorn. I've never
Speaker 4: seen anything like this in my life.
Speaker 5: Ass.
Speaker 4: So here comes the dough and she stops and looks
Speaker 4: right up at me. And it's dark, dude, I mean
Speaker 4: it's it's still shooting light, but it's it's dark.
Speaker 6: And we're in that little where the woods. You know,
Speaker 6: you can still see out in front of you, but
Speaker 6: it's like and it's like, okay, she's right here, and
Speaker 6: he goes pump out thirty yards right and stands there,
Speaker 6: looks at me side like brought side. And so I'm
Speaker 6: already got my thing. And so when I draw back
Speaker 6: on him.
Speaker 4: And I put it, and it's like, okay, just you're
Speaker 4: not gonna die.
Speaker 5: You're not gonna die, You're not going either way.
Speaker 6: Your heart's not gonna explode, which is what I felt
Speaker 6: like things.
Speaker 4: So he's there and I can see the pin.
Speaker 6: You know, that was old school where it was like,
Speaker 6: you know, twenty thirty, forty whatever with the and so
Speaker 6: whichever one. And those were all different colors too. This
Speaker 6: particular color was the hard one to see forty yards
Speaker 6: whatever he was. And so I can see the pin,
Speaker 6: or I can see the deer if I move, if
Speaker 6: I move my if I move my bow to the left,
Speaker 6: there he is right there. Well, put the pin back
Speaker 6: up there. I can't make it connect, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 3: Like totally.
Speaker 4: I mean I can, but I can't really. But I
Speaker 4: know I've got to try to shoot this deer. You know,
Speaker 4: well not one time? How many arrows going to quiver?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 3: For?
Speaker 6: I had a bunch and I shot every one of
Speaker 6: them at this deer man everyone. So first shot goes
Speaker 6: soup and he takes two three steps. I shot under
Speaker 6: him and I say, okay, no big deal, knock another arrow,
Speaker 6: so back out again.
Speaker 4: Over his back. Really, dude, it's each spot.
Speaker 1: That you can miss the deer.
Speaker 4: I missed him, and yeah, and he's hopped and he
Speaker 4: finally he finally runs off and I can't remember which
Speaker 4: direction because you running for me anyway. That's still haunts me.
Speaker 4: That still haunts me. And also yet another reason why
Speaker 4: and there's.
Speaker 6: A different subject. But like, I just I hate both
Speaker 6: hunting hatred towards I don't hate it.
Speaker 4: It's just like I'm gonna take my Raven crossboat card.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be and I'm gonna steal this.
Speaker 4: I steal my hit one this year. And didn't you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, what's that.
Speaker 3: Thing me and read talk about all the time. I mean, like,
Speaker 3: I don't think there's enough emphasis on the margin of
Speaker 3: error when it comes to bow hunting compared to anything
Speaker 3: with like the scope on it, unless that your dad's
Speaker 3: gone with the scope on it. It's like every it's
Speaker 3: it's way harder like it's very multiplied.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think like.
Speaker 4: Gun hunting is hard, it's it's your he's four hundred
Speaker 4: yards where even be nice fever seventy yards when he
Speaker 4: would love for him to be ten, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: Social media and TV make it look like it's easy,
Speaker 2: and they they portray bow hunting as, you know, something
Speaker 2: that you just can't go out there and do, but
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 1: It's it's a super I mean.
Speaker 5: You went through this year even making a good.
Speaker 1: Shot the past two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with big deer, and it's a it's a it's
Speaker 2: a very rewarding, but it's also a very like bottom
Speaker 2: of the valley feeling too, when when you can't make
Speaker 2: something happen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's dark and and and at that time too,
Speaker 6: we would start shooting around July Man.
Speaker 4: That over in East Nashville. Remember I had you could get.
Speaker 3: I remember I saw you shot that drunk. I saw
Speaker 3: Jonathan shoot the.
Speaker 4: Decoy between the eyes. Drunk.
Speaker 3: We had been on a motorcycle ride, dirt, a lot
Speaker 3: of implications in the drunk after the motorcycle. After the
Speaker 3: motorcycle ride, and he started drinking heavily at the house.
Speaker 3: It was a different time because I don't have done that.
Speaker 3: And he said, give me if I could shoot that
Speaker 3: decoy between the eyes. I was like, Jonathan, I've seen
Speaker 3: you shoot sober something and you ain't hitting that deer
Speaker 3: and it don't matter anyway. I mean I could see
Speaker 3: that in there or doing like figures, and it went
Speaker 3: and hit that though. I mean it was a decoy,
Speaker 3: but hit the target. I mean, you couldn't have wined
Speaker 3: it up, maybe better.
Speaker 4: Than one that was twenty five or thirty. Do you
Speaker 4: remember how we would cheat forty yards?
Speaker 6: No, he would go through the house, out to the sidewalk,
Speaker 6: over the fence into the other.
Speaker 4: Fence, and that that was how you practice for.
Speaker 1: We could sit here and do this all day. Dude,
Speaker 1: hate it up. Oh yeah, we love you man.
Speaker 4: Thank you for your brother.
Speaker 1: Yea to sing for your brother. We appreciate you coming.
Speaker 3: The way dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a wrap for us today. Thanks for hanging
Speaker 1: out with us in God's country.
Speaker 3: We'll catch you.
Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time.