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Speaker 1: It's eight hundred and ninety four one Sean if you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: to even watch Fake News CNN Eli Hoenig saying the

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Speaker 1: entire prosecution witness team has been lied to by Michael Kohne.

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Speaker 1: And as you know, we've had cross examination this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty interesting, you know, to watch. I think

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Speaker 1: they the prosecution purposely delayed the beginning of cross examination

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Speaker 1: and just wanted to get an appetizer or taste of

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Speaker 1: what was going to probably be all day tomorrow. And

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Speaker 1: that's you know, heavy cross examination going right to the

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Speaker 1: heart of the credibility of of course Michael Cohne, who

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Speaker 1: really doesn't have much credibility. But anyway, here's what fake

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Speaker 1: News CNN even said about.

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Speaker 2: Here's what makes special Cohen so unusual, so unique. I've

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Speaker 2: never seen a witness with bigger credibility problems than Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 2: I've definitely seen witnesses. I've definitely used witnesses who've done

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Speaker 2: way worse things than Michael Cohen. But I've never seen

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Speaker 2: a witness who's lied to Congress, who's lied in court,

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Speaker 2: who's lied to the irs, who's lied to the Southern

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Speaker 2: the entire prosecution witness team has been lied to by

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Speaker 1: Now Nicole mall o'takas commenting on this case, actually you know,

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Speaker 1: said the New York's Hush Bunny trial is a sham trial.

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Speaker 1: She's a congresswoman New York's eleventh district. She'll join us

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Speaker 1: in a minute, and she called the whole thing a sham.

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Speaker 1: Here's what she said.

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Speaker 3: This is a sham trial. The people of America know

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Speaker 3: that it is a sham trial and is based on

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Speaker 3: a star witness that is a convicted, disbarred perjurer who

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Speaker 3: the people of the state of New York would wish

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Speaker 3: that Alvin Bragg, the district attorney who brought this case,

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Speaker 3: in plaguing our city.

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Speaker 3: We have drug smugglers that are poisoning our children. We

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Speaker 3: We see career criminals being released over and over again,

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Speaker 3: yet here you have a made up charge for something

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Speaker 3: that's not even within his jurisdiction. That the FEC has

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Speaker 3: said that there is no crime, that the DOJ has said.

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Speaker 1: There is no crime, all right. Joining us now, she

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Speaker 1: is Congresswoman Nicole mali Otakas is with us, and she

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Speaker 1: has been following this case very closely. Congress Woman, this

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Speaker 1: is where we now find ourselves. You can beat the

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Speaker 1: hell out of police officers on but don't worry. You'll

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Speaker 1: be out of jail in an hour or two. You

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Speaker 1: again in New York State.

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Speaker 5: That's right, Sean. And the New Yorkers that I talked

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Speaker 5: to are angry. They are upset. They are furious that

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Speaker 5: we are trying to figure out watching this trial, what

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Speaker 5: The revolving door that is New York City.

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Speaker 1: All right, So, but that's the reality of where we

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Speaker 1: look at this case, there's been no crime that has

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Speaker 1: legal fee, that seems appropriate considering. Michael Cohen admitted he

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Speaker 1: did the deal. He was Trump's quote fixer attorney, and

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Speaker 1: he paid the money. I know because I paid it.

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Speaker 1: He said, And meanwhile, you got a guy with zero

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Speaker 1: and Trump's probably looking at a very abusively biased New

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Speaker 5: Know, and looking at the jurors, I was thinking the

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Speaker 5: same thing. I mean, it's mostly young people, many women.

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Speaker 5: And this is a borough where eighty percent or so

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Speaker 5: voted against Donald Trump for president, So how can he

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Speaker 1: Fair It was way more than eighty percent. Go ahead, well,

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Speaker 5: The question that becomes is there going to be a

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 5: Is it going to have to go to Well?

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Speaker 1: Why would you expect a direct verdict from the judge

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Speaker 1: when the judge and the case donated to Biden. The

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Speaker 1: judges seemed hostile towards Donald Trump from day one with

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Speaker 1: his gag order for Trump. But Michael Cohne can go

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and ask for gifts and wear Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: it might be him in light of the fact that

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Speaker 1: he's now facing new allegations of lying to Congress that

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Speaker 1: could change come January next year. But you got a guy,

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Speaker 1: why would anybody believe a word he says, this is

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Speaker 1: their star witness. But he'll be calm as he's being

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Speaker 1: calm on the stand. Is they point out you're a liar,

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Speaker 1: You're a liar, you're lying. Now you're lying, then well.

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Speaker 5: I think you're right. The star witness is a disaster.

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Speaker 5: But I think the case is so flawed that even CNN,

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Speaker 5: when you watch your legal experts are saying that there

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Speaker 5: is no crime here. This is a guy that's not trustworthy.

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Speaker 5: And so I have to believe, you know, in the courtroom,

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Speaker 5: when you're sitting there all day in this cold, dreary courtroom,

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Speaker 5: and you see on the wall it says in God

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Speaker 5: we trust, and part of me says, you know what,

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Speaker 5: sometimes you do need to turn over your battles. You

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Speaker 5: need to turn over your fights. And I do believe

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Speaker 5: that something's going to happen here with Donald Trump will

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Speaker 5: come out stronger and he will be vindicated in this.

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Speaker 5: And I have to believe that at my core, because

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Speaker 5: this is such an injustice showing my mother fled a

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Speaker 5: I really believe that you're going to see the immigrant

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Speaker 5: Trump because they don't want what their country's turned into

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Speaker 5: But I do believe that Something's going to happen here

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Speaker 1: And I think, well, how is he going to be vindicated?

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Speaker 1: Let's assume a guilty verdict. Let's assume that my cynicism

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Speaker 1: get an expedited appeal hearing? And light of an uppending

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Speaker 5: Well, look, we saw what happened with the Weinstein case, right,

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Speaker 5: But when you reach the secondary court, I think you

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Speaker 5: And I think there's enough outrage from the public. And even,

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Speaker 5: is saying that there's no case here, and so I

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Speaker 1: Political I think the already crossed that threshold. Don't you

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Speaker 1: the fact that he was Usually they are chosen randomly. No,

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Speaker 1: he was selected for this case. Is that the usual practice, Congresswoman, Well, no.

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Speaker 5: It's not. And that's why I say we have probably

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Speaker 5: a better shot when we get to the appellate court.

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Speaker 5: But I do believe that there's just no Look, he

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Speaker 5: would be ludicrous for this judge to convict. It would

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Speaker 5: be Now I can actually get more concerned about the

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Speaker 5: these people could be talking about the makeup of the

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Speaker 5: political electorate in New York County. But I think that

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Speaker 5: if this judge wants to be an international laughing stock,

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Speaker 5: then he may move forward. But I think the support

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Speaker 8: Taking my call? Listen. I wanted to talk about a

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Speaker 8: It just it sounds exhausting like the troal im.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, you're exhausted. Let me ask you a question. Tell

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Speaker 8: He's for falsifying business records. If you and I were

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Speaker 1: The bookkeeping was marked as a legal expense. Is paying

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Speaker 8: It is not when you're using it to reimburse something else.

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Speaker 1: Well whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa. No, it's a legal expense.

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking you. Is is tell me what the

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Speaker 8: The crime is falsifying the legal expense. It wasn't a

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Speaker 8: Right, And you understand though that the premise behind it, though,

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Speaker 8: That's not correct. That's not how you have to do

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Speaker 8: Tell me that if you falsified business?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Well, how come the Feds didn't try this?

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Speaker 1: he said payment for what. You just want Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: we go back to liberal rob He's in Ohio. All right,

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Speaker 1: so you think that Donald Trump's payment in this NDA

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Speaker 1: Do you have a problem that the judge, I do,

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Speaker 8: I do it shows bias? I think you don't think

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Speaker 8: I'm a it does?

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Speaker 8: No, because my daughter and me have different, you know,

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Speaker 1: Why so if you donate to Biden and you got

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Speaker 8: But I think you also have to put some hope

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Speaker 1: But Nicole, you have to put I have to put

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Speaker 1: Now for Christopher Steele to get paid. Do you know

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Speaker 8: I do, and I definitely think killer should be brought

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, I'm asking I'm I'm asked because I'm

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Speaker 8: Shot, I'm much different than you think I am. I

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Speaker 8: It shows that there's some bias.

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Speaker 1: And I would say that if we continue this practice,

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Speaker 8: I think you would do it, and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: All right, You're very welcome. I now rest my case.

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Speaker 1: You're honor liberal. Rob. Appreciate you being with us. Eight

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Speaker 1: hundred nine four one, Sean if you want to be

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Speaker 1: What's up, Mike? How are you?

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Speaker 9: First time caller? Here's my question. If Trump is found

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Speaker 9: innocent or he has to appeal, and he wins the appeal,

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Speaker 9: can this judge and this prosecutor be charged with election interference?

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Speaker 9: And if so, if they lose, that could Trump it's

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Speaker 9: ground for legal fees.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't think that we would ever

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Speaker 1: come to that. Here's the problem. I think that let

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Speaker 1: let's say that his odds that I am right, and

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Speaker 1: his odds of any hungury or acquittal are very low,

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Speaker 1: you know, And anyway, let's say that I'm right, and

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Speaker 1: let's say he's found guilty.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I believe on so many levels, all of which I've

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Speaker 1: mentioned many times, you know, in the course of the

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Speaker 1: last few weeks, UH, that he will this case will

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Speaker 1: be overturned on appeal. Here's the problem. Is not going

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Speaker 1: to be an expedited appeal. They're going to be able

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Speaker 1: to call Donald Trump convict, Donald Trump convict. You'll hear

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Speaker 1: it till the you know, the cows come home, and

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Speaker 1: that will be their means of trying to bludgeon Trump

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Speaker 1: with this ridiculous case, this insane you know, application of

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Speaker 1: the law, this insane novel interpretation of the law. And

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Speaker 1: and that's where I think it's going to end up.

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Speaker 1: And that's sad.

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Speaker 9: And I think the thing there with even doing that

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Speaker 9: though in the way troll, I mean the way that

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Speaker 9: Trump is his polling has gone so far, I think

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Speaker 9: it is jumping up even further.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this, what do I also say?

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump defies all conventional political gravity. Look at these

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Speaker 1: polls yesterday, and we spent a lot of time on them,

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Speaker 1: and spend a lot more time if you on. I

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Speaker 1: actually like talking about polls. But the polls are overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: And right now, Donald Trump's poll numbers are let's see,

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Speaker 1: he's winning in Nevada Nevada fifty thirty eight. He's winning

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Speaker 1: in Arizona by seven points forty nine, forty two he's

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Speaker 1: winning by seven in Michigan forty nine forty two. He's

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Speaker 1: winning in Pennsylvania forty seven forty four. He's winning in

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Speaker 1: Georgia by ten points forty nine to thirty nine. That

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Speaker 1: would be Now that's the New York Times, the ENA poll.

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Speaker 1: So obviously, all this law fair, I will tell you

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Speaker 1: so far has not particularly worked out so well. And

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you. I want you to let

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Speaker 1: me bring up an issue and see if you agree

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Speaker 1: with me. You remember when Clinton was impeached.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I'm okay, so yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Remember the day he was impeached and the polls came

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Speaker 1: out after. Do you remember how high his approval rating

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Speaker 1: was at that time?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Not really, No, it was through the roof and the feeling.

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Speaker 1: I this is Bill Clinton being impeached on steroids. Now,

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Speaker 1: the American people didn't like what Clinton did, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't want a president of the United States having to

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Speaker 1: go through that ordeal. And that's how it ended. That's

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Speaker 1: how I interpret it in retrospect. Now, I will tell

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Speaker 1: you between the Russia collusion lies, impeachment I impeachment I

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Speaker 1: all this nonsense in New York a DC case, the

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Speaker 1: January sixth case, the case in Fulton County, Georgia, the

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Speaker 1: Document's case. You know Hillary Clinton, you know, nothing happened

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Speaker 1: to her, she didn't get raided, she didn't get arrested.

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Speaker 1: Nothing happened to Joe Biden's same issues. And I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: the American people see how fundamentally unjust and unfair all

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Speaker 1: this is. And that's how I explain the polls to people.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's my That's what it is exactly.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I appreciate you being with us, my friend, great

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Speaker 1: call eight hundred and ninety four one shown North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: A lot of North Carolina calls down up. We got

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Speaker 1: three calls from North Carolina. Pamela, Let's get your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: I wanted to discuss the judge that's on the case

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Speaker 6: as well as the hush money. Okay, so the decisions

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Speaker 6: that could be made in this case can possibly benefit

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Speaker 6: to defend it, which is in this case is going

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Speaker 6: to be the defendant adversary the opponent, which is Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: We're dealing right now with judicial abuse. And when I

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Speaker 6: say that, I'm looking at the judicial position to enhance

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Speaker 6: a private entry, which it would be Joe Biden's campaign,

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Speaker 6: and it can can create a president case. And when

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Speaker 6: you get ready to look at a board dyer later,

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Speaker 6: it can create a president case. For saying to a

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Speaker 6: jury that when that question is asked, can you look

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Speaker 6: at this case fair? Can you look at this case

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Speaker 6: and you know, make a decision on this case and

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Speaker 6: judge this case fairly, They can easily say no, I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonna look at it fair. I'm not gonna look

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Speaker 6: at it and judge it. I don't have to because

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Speaker 6: we have a case right now that where we found

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump guilty. And in that case, the judge nothing

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Speaker 6: being said in the court, just sitting there in that position.

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Speaker 6: Judicial position is say it's yelly, just louding to dish. Yes,

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Speaker 6: my daughter's campaigning against you, Donald Trump. Yes I support

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Speaker 6: your opponent, and yes I am not gonna be fair,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be illegally biased on this case. Those things

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Speaker 6: should be considered. People need to stop saying that his

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Speaker 6: daughter is campaigning for Joe Biden. They need to say

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Speaker 6: his daughter is campaigning against Donald Trump, because that is

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Speaker 6: exactly what is going on, which makes it stronger on

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Speaker 6: Trump's behalf. Not only that you have to also look

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Speaker 6: at there are people in America right now that are

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Speaker 6: sitting there looking at this case that are middle class

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Speaker 6: and poor people who are sitting there saying if this

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Speaker 6: judge can sit in that bench, on that bench and

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Speaker 6: judge j judge Donald Trump and know that they support

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Speaker 6: in this case.

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Speaker 1: All right, I gotta cut you short because the only

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Speaker 1: got about ninety seconds. I want to get C's quick

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Speaker 1: comments and comments. First.

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Speaker 7: Yes, they're is own truckyard in North Carolina, and I

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Speaker 7: want to tell you I've got drivers that have taken

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Speaker 7: the seven or eight or nine years become citizens in

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Speaker 7: the USA. They're very fragmented about what's happening at the border.

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Speaker 7: They're from Africa, Ukraine, Russia, Asia, and they're telling me

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Speaker 7: that they came to the US so they could live

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Speaker 7: the American dream, make money, take money back to their families,

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Speaker 7: which they actually do, which I appreciate greatly, and they

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Speaker 7: came here for a rule of law. And now they're

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Speaker 7: telling me that this is scary because they see this

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Speaker 7: happening in the countries that they came from, and that

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Speaker 7: is very sad.

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Speaker 1: It is sad, Well said, Deb, you got the last

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Speaker 1: word in our North Carolina, Trio.

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Speaker 4: I just mine's a whole different subject, but thank you

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Speaker 4: for taking the call. The protesters that are screaming death

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Speaker 4: to America, why can't they be charged with communicating domestic threat?

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Speaker 1: Here, I didn't hear the last part of that, ma'am.

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Speaker 4: Oh can't they be charged or arrested for communicating threats?

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Speaker 1: Oh like death to America, death Israel? Those?

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: I think I think they actually could be anyway, three

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Speaker 1: great calls from North Carolina anyway, Pamela, deb and CJ.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Sean, Thank you Sean,