WEBVTT - NFL Week 12 Bets: Bills-Texans, Giants-Lions, Bucs-Rams, Colts-Chiefs, Eagles-Cowboys, Jets-Ravens and more

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rocked Bet. We

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<v Speaker 1>guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am joined

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<v Speaker 1>as always by my co host, my bff, my companion,

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<v Speaker 1>my Campadre professional better Simon Hunter at all. So iomon, Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we doing? Brother brother?

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<v Speaker 1>I got to be a little muted today because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in a hotel room. I'll be in a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>room for our next two shows. If you could see,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the beauty of podcasting in the modern age.

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<v Speaker 1>My computer is balanced on the top of a turned

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<v Speaker 1>over ice container, and there is a light that is

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<v Speaker 1>half hanging on to the edge of my computer. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we get through this whole show, and I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>hotel WiFi, if we get through this whole show and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing collapses, that will be the miracle.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I got good faith. We've had a good run

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<v Speaker 2>with the hotel WiFi.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also having a good run lately. We went three

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<v Speaker 1>and two last week and our five favorite picks. We

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<v Speaker 1>won with the Browns, we won with the Panthers, we

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<v Speaker 1>won with the Eagles on Sunday night. Great call by you.

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<v Speaker 1>We lost with the Bengals and we lost with the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams for the year. Take a look at the graphic.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone can see. This is where they get the official

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<v Speaker 1>updates on our progress. Thirty one twenty four through eleven

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of the season. Sometimes I wish I was only

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<v Speaker 1>betting these five games and I didn't bet anything else,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like it's the other games that are

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<v Speaker 1>completely screwing me up. Simon, this is our Tuesday show.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get through the entire slate. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see what the final five are, you got to check

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget subscribe to Apple Pods, Spotify wherever you get

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<v Speaker 1>your pods. All right, Thursday night football? Interesting game Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>at Houston. Houston is a six point underdog at hard

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<v Speaker 1>Rock five and a halfs in a lot of other places. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean who's playing QB, And I don't mean for

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans. I mean is it Josh Allen who can

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<v Speaker 1>be inconsistent and looks like he's pressing and is missing receivers?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it Josh Allen the superhuman who had six

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday in a

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<v Speaker 1>game that I think everyone is still getting over the

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<v Speaker 1>hangover because it was so freaking wild. From the opening drive,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills were unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's definitely a game where brow when you saw the numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>especially there's five and a half's up there, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you not want to just take the Bills

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<v Speaker 3>after the game they've just had and what you just said,

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<v Speaker 3>what we've seen from Davis Mills and we expected from

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<v Speaker 3>this Texas team.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want to take the Texans now they

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<v Speaker 3>were at six, but I don't think CJ is gonna play,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's how he is, either concussions. It's like everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>affected differently for them. So it's really tough to even

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<v Speaker 3>try to predict it, and it's a type of thing

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<v Speaker 3>where we don't know it's all in house. My biggest

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<v Speaker 3>issue would definitely be Houston as a home team. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, they just it's not like they have that

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<v Speaker 3>huge home field advantage, and even their primetime numbers of

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<v Speaker 3>franchise just aren't good. It's pretty alarm and they're eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>and thirty one straight up, fifteen and thirty two against

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<v Speaker 3>the spread in night games. So it's just it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter who the quarterback is. Historically it's not a good

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<v Speaker 3>spot for them. So it makes sense the early money

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<v Speaker 3>is coming in from the professionals and the public all

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<v Speaker 3>lined up on this Bills team with so much unknown

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<v Speaker 3>of as Texans team. So I guess I'll go Bill's

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<v Speaker 3>minus five and a half for now if you can

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<v Speaker 3>find it. But like we said, it's already minus six

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<v Speaker 3>a hard rock, I could still I guess the Bills, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's super.

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<v Speaker 3>Publicly and it's going to be all public money. But

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen these Thursday games. It's just doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's a bad matchup and it's a guy like

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<v Speaker 3>Davis Mills playing, it's a shootout. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 3>he can keep up. So these these short week games

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<v Speaker 3>are just tough. And you know, we expect Josh Allena

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<v Speaker 3>have a letdown game after putting up six touchdowns, but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he's on a roll.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not going to try to get in front

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, John No, No, Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>with the epic I guess back door fa the rare

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<v Speaker 1>back door favorite cover. Being down one with five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>left and winning that game by twelve is what closed

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<v Speaker 1>it a six and a half point favorite. Davis Mills. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a short week. CJ's still in the protocol. He

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what's going to be happening. He hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been cleared yet. They got the Bills, Colts and Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>on the docket. The Texans are five hundred. You wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, do they sit him one more game, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he's healthy for the division game where that

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<v Speaker 1>might be in the standings for the playoffs, potentially more

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<v Speaker 1>important down the road. Davis Mills. I thought this was interesting. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not advocating for betting the Texans in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>Davis Mills had another last fourth quarter come from behind

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<v Speaker 1>win on Sunday that was his second in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time Davis Mills started a game before this

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<v Speaker 1>season was the last game of twenty twenty three, when

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<v Speaker 1>he led a come from behind win for the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>when they were in position to have the number one

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick. But that win knocked them out of the

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<v Speaker 1>number one overall pick. The Texans might very well have

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young right now instead of c. J. Stroud if

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<v Speaker 1>Davis Mills does not win that game for Lovey Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>who immediately got fired forgetting his team to win at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that twenty twenty three season. My point

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<v Speaker 1>in saying all that is, who knows. Maybe Davis Mills

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<v Speaker 1>is just really good in the fourth quarter at the

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<v Speaker 1>only time that matters, and the rest of the game

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<v Speaker 1>he's just tortured to watch. Possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's impossible. Consistent to now it is.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bills also gave up two hundred yards to the

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<v Speaker 1>Tempate Buccaneers rushing on Sunday, so we know that their

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<v Speaker 1>defense has not gotten better. It's going to be can

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen do something against this Texans defense? That's really

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the game. Seattle minus thirteen versus Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>They're visiting the Tennessee Titans. We talked about this one

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday night. You pegged it immediately. I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>bet Seattle on Sunday at twelve and a half. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming you did as well. Totally a big number, but

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<v Speaker 1>the defense is as good as let's say Houston's that

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<v Speaker 1>just played the type and held them to thirteen points.

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<v Speaker 1>And it took a miracle to get there, and its

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<v Speaker 1>offense is so much better than Houston's or the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>for that matter, both of which were in position to

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<v Speaker 1>cover big numbers late in the game. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the universe should right itself with this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I said this is a spot I would

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<v Speaker 3>never usually take. I just blindly would take home dog,

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<v Speaker 3>especially this big, and a lot of the numbers do

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<v Speaker 3>back it up playing dogs this big at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so people know why this is a rare spot

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<v Speaker 2>for me to Yawks.

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<v Speaker 3>So since twenty twenty, favorites of eleven of points are

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<v Speaker 3>more three and seven against the spread, which is pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 3>They're actually five and five straight up in those games.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a weird thing where these teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>big favorites juggernauts lose these games. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's here. I think we just saw a Tennessee's best

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<v Speaker 3>shot that we go for in a divisional game.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're facing an absolute juggernaut. So I just said

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<v Speaker 3>those trends just to give up. People couldn't believe when

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<v Speaker 3>I was saying I like the Seahawks, and I said

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<v Speaker 3>I usually blindly would bet Tennessee in the spot. But

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<v Speaker 3>this lay in the season with a number of this big,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, the books were gonna be begging for

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<v Speaker 3>Tennessee money and they opened it too short, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's still too short, Like why is this not

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<v Speaker 3>above fourteen years?

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<v Speaker 2>So Tennessee, we've seen it this year.

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<v Speaker 3>We've been burned by these fluky random points they get,

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<v Speaker 3>like Chad said, those late touchdowns or field goals by Ward,

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<v Speaker 3>they just they've been a covering machine. But here it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like it's a great spot for Seattle, who they

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<v Speaker 3>are eight and two against the spread this season. Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>so like they've been covering pretty well with these big numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's really if you go and look, it's them

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<v Speaker 3>being up on bad teams.

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<v Speaker 2>They do really well against bad teams.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's just their defense is so so

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<v Speaker 3>well coached they really don't give an inch. And then offensively,

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<v Speaker 3>we just saw Seam Donald have his worst game of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. It just feels like the exact spot he

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<v Speaker 3>needs to get right. So with Jeffrey Simmons back, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really think she all having much of a run

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<v Speaker 3>game ops, but passing wise, they should torch the secondary.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I still like this number as long as

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<v Speaker 3>you're getting under fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, the run game hasn't been that great anyways. That's

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<v Speaker 1>been sort of the issue for Seattle. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a really good opportunity for Donald to get right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we did get a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a lower number on Sunday and even today because of

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<v Speaker 1>the stink of what Donald did and people thinking, oh, Donald,

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<v Speaker 1>he's back, you see him ghosts again. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case. We've seen him have bad games. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a bad game in the playoffs last year against

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams and then came back and has been an

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<v Speaker 1>MVP candidate for most of the year. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>when you reassert yourself as an MVP candidate, is against

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<v Speaker 1>a very bad Tennessee Titans team.

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<v Speaker 2>I broke my rule last week.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said I will blindly bet Seattle as a

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<v Speaker 3>road team. They've just been so good to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, under their head coach, they're nine and three

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<v Speaker 3>against the spreading the season they're five and one, so

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<v Speaker 3>they're just covering machines of the road. They just get

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<v Speaker 3>up on a McDonald. So, uh, you gotta bet it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I just I'm trying not to number scare

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<v Speaker 3>me off. It's an insane number, but I think Seattle's

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<v Speaker 3>worthy of it. They're just a really talented team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's weird. We talked about it on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hesitate, didn't feel like it felt like a

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<v Speaker 1>big number that Seattle should win this game. Thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>to three. Lock it in clip that for Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh at Chicago. Chicago was a three point favorite. This

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<v Speaker 1>opened a two and a half after the Mason Rudolph

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers. After Aaron Rodgers was injured in the game

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<v Speaker 1>and it became clear, or at least people thought Mason

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<v Speaker 1>Rudolph would be starting this next week. Aaron Rodgers has

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<v Speaker 1>a fractured left wrist. Surgery not required. It's still not

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<v Speaker 1>determined if he will be playing this Sunday. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a Mason Rudolph line today Simon, According to Owen

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<v Speaker 1>Millman via Larry Mayer on Twitter, this was texted to

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<v Speaker 1>me right before we started recording by Owen. Today is

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Williams twenty fourth birthday. He was born November eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and one Cordner, Larry Mayer, and Owen Millman.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the only player currently on the Bears roster

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<v Speaker 1>who was born on a day that the Bears played

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<v Speaker 1>a game. They beat the Temp Bay Buccaneers twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four behind three touchdowns from Jim Miller, not so

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<v Speaker 1>Bears legend who turned into a Bears broadcasting legend. He

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<v Speaker 1>threw three touchdowns to Marty Booker Bears one twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty four and the Bay He needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>first place Chicago Jim Miller to Marty Poker Dale by

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<v Speaker 1>John Lynch with Poker Holdsohn touchdown Poker Canal. Happy birthday

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<v Speaker 1>to our favorite quarterback, Caleb william Will you be betting

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<v Speaker 1>again on Caleb Williams this weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>Simon, I hate this game so much because I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I have to go against the Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm blind.

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<v Speaker 1>You too, Yeah, it's too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Much. It's not a Tomlins spot like we make it

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<v Speaker 2>out to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Evan had some really great stats in this game, and

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest one I took away from this one was

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<v Speaker 3>just as a road underdog, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomlin's been doing lately.

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<v Speaker 3>He's actually lost four straight straight up and against the spread,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the first time it's happened for Pittsburgh since

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven, so it's kind of interesting they've he's actually struggled.

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<v Speaker 2>In this spot on the road as a dog as

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<v Speaker 2>of late.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like, all right, what kind of Bear stats

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<v Speaker 3>I have to go against here, because I just can't.

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked about the Bears have had a horseshoe up

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<v Speaker 3>their ass now for five six weeks, Like it's just

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<v Speaker 3>been incredible the games they pulled out in one where

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<v Speaker 3>they just they're not playing their best, but they're just

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<v Speaker 3>so well coached and they just find a way.

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<v Speaker 2>They just keep believing in themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's is a unique spot Bears who won three

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<v Speaker 3>straight games by five points or less in the last

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years teams in this exact spot. They went twelve

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty three against the spread in that six game,

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<v Speaker 3>so historically it usually catches up to them. More so

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that they're a favorite now is it because

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<v Speaker 3>of Mason Rudolph, Like we've bet we've bet Pittsburgh with

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<v Speaker 3>Mason Rudolph Duck College's We've we've bet this before in

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<v Speaker 3>the spot chat. So like the fact of the public

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<v Speaker 3>hates Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>The public's over the Bears as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, what it feels like every week the public's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of gone against the Bears year. It feels like it's

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<v Speaker 3>the right spot to take Steelers. But it's it's pain

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<v Speaker 3>in me. I just I don't want to go. But

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<v Speaker 3>there's something magic about this Bears team. They're just so

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<v Speaker 3>well coached, and I think they've got to run the

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<v Speaker 3>ball against the Steelers team. But we've seen it, Tom

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<v Speaker 3>fies away and I just think this is just playing

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<v Speaker 3>the number.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's too it's too big A plus three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, as much as it pains me to

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<v Speaker 1>bet against the Bears in this spot. All of it

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<v Speaker 1>just yuels that we've seen this before, right. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>this with the Vikings a couple of years ago. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw this with the Giants and Brian Dayball's first year.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw it with the Chiefs last year. There are

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<v Speaker 1>teams that get on a roll and they go eight, nine,

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<v Speaker 1>ten games where they win by one score, and you

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<v Speaker 1>keep expecting it every week, like how do you how

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<v Speaker 1>do you figure out when the aggression? Regression is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come? That's what makes it so difficult because at

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<v Speaker 1>some point you either got to get off the train

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<v Speaker 1>and try to time that perfectly. It's like timing the market.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you time the freaking market? You know, who's

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<v Speaker 1>everybody selling your team?

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<v Speaker 3>Like they're graded as one of the worst teams in

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<v Speaker 3>NFL history in the last like twenty five years to

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<v Speaker 3>be seven and three, just like all the underlying numbers

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<v Speaker 3>and data. Totally, that's why I love football. It's like,

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<v Speaker 3>it don't matter. You gotta just line up and play

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<v Speaker 3>the game. They keep finding a way. So I get

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<v Speaker 3>what people are saying, but end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning it doesn't matter. We're taking the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 2>Still taking the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying. It's a Bears fan, I wouldn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, we know our team's not that good, but

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<v Speaker 3>we're seven and three.

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<v Speaker 2>Who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh totally, but I did. I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you this as a Bears fan. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I watch all the videos Ben Johnson in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>He's amazing. You know, good, better, best, never let it rest,

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<v Speaker 1>all those kinds of things. I also thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, there's still seven games left. In the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't the way the Bears have played and the

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<v Speaker 1>way they won they've won these games, I could easily

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<v Speaker 1>see them losing their next seven games.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the magic numbers three to me. If you can

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<v Speaker 3>get three wins with you guys have a brutal schedule

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<v Speaker 3>in the season, you can get the really mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>can get the ten wins. That's why I like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>tough for me here where I know you how desperate

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<v Speaker 3>there they need to win this one. But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter in football, Like, it doesn't matter if you need

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<v Speaker 3>to win this game. It's it's really about the number.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I just think plus three and the Steelers is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, all right, Simon talking about numbers New York Giants

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<v Speaker 1>visiting the Detroit Lions. This number has moved from eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half to ten and a half since the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions got just beat up, hammered, bamboozled by the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles on Sunday night and look the Giants. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it last week with Jamis. We had to bet

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<v Speaker 1>on Jamis just for a little taste because of the

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<v Speaker 1>roller coaster that is the full Jamis experience, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got it with Jamis last week where he had that

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<v Speaker 1>team in contention to win the game, leading for much

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Then they're down seven points with forty four

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<v Speaker 1>seconds left around the Packers eighteen yard line. Jamis goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to pass, throws it to the end zone. Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Hyatt picked off in the corner of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't blame Jamis for this one A covered because

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<v Speaker 1>the number was seven and a half, so God bless,

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<v Speaker 1>but also Jalen Hyatt just gave up on the route.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was not a Jameis Winston tragedy. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hyatt not doing his job. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants have the same deadcat bounce against a desperate

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<v Speaker 1>desperate and that's what they are right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Detroit Lionstein, it's shockingly going to be my Simon says,

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<v Speaker 4>to give me, Simon says, presented by hard Rock Bett

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<v Speaker 4>minus ten and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to play a game.

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<v Speaker 3>Simon says, Wow, it's it's a big favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's really about this lines and how we always

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<v Speaker 2>just play this spot and it's just good to us.

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<v Speaker 3>We always talk about giving out long term winners, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is the definition of one. Tons of stats here

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<v Speaker 3>why it's so good to back the Lions here And

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<v Speaker 3>it's a unique spot, right, You're coming off a week

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<v Speaker 3>where data converted a single fourth down where immediately issue

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<v Speaker 3>as that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. I was like, all right, I gotta find

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<v Speaker 2>some staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, de try.

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<v Speaker 3>You what is this Lion's team like after they don't

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<v Speaker 3>get a single fourth down the week before? Shockingly, they're

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<v Speaker 3>nine and one straight up, which you know, okay, they

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<v Speaker 3>do bounce back after the struggle of the week, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're eight and two against the spread in games after

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<v Speaker 3>they fail to cover a fourth down, so pretty imparent

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<v Speaker 3>they've bounce back in this game, and those games they've covered,

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<v Speaker 3>they've covered by an average of ten points per game

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<v Speaker 3>in that spot. So that's just bringing in what it's

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<v Speaker 3>like after they struggle on fourth down. Now, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>to all the golf stats. We know golf in these games,

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<v Speaker 3>he's always big a bouncing back because lines have just

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<v Speaker 3>been so good, and we've talked the last three years

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<v Speaker 3>they've been seventy percent against the spread, So you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have some really good stats with golf and Campbell as

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<v Speaker 3>a combo, and all of a straight up loss, they're

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two and eight against the spread, So they just

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<v Speaker 3>tend to bounce back and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Books don't account for it, so we always play that spot.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're actually shockingly covered thirteen in a row in

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<v Speaker 3>this spot, so they haven't not covered after a loss

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<v Speaker 3>since November one of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to my guy Evan Abrams.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an amazing stat where it's like they're just a

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<v Speaker 3>machine after these type of losses and you go, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a big spread.

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<v Speaker 2>What is their record when the spread's above four?

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<v Speaker 3>Golf and Campbell, they're perfect eight to zero against the

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<v Speaker 3>spread when the spread is higher than four after a

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<v Speaker 3>straight up loss, So feels like a really good bounce

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<v Speaker 3>back spot. We talk of the time Golf indoors after

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<v Speaker 3>a loss twenty four and seven against the spread, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, again, it's just all points to it, and

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<v Speaker 3>you just look at the on field matchup wise, the

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<v Speaker 3>getting upfield can be neutered by the Giants with a

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<v Speaker 3>good run game, and we know what Detroit want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>They just kind of get it done against an Eagles

0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.720
<v Speaker 3>team that just has a really different front. They arguet

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<v Speaker 3>great against the run because they have great linebackers, which

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<v Speaker 3>the Giants do not. That's the Giant's biggest weakness. So

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<v Speaker 3>love the match of the Lions, love all the trends

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 3>for this Lions team. And yeah, I can't believe in

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<v Speaker 3>making an over ten point favorite my favorite bet, but

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<v Speaker 3>I've just been been heavy into it, so I figure

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<v Speaker 3>out to give it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I support you because I want to support you,

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<v Speaker 1>because I will support you? Which Lions team are we getting?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what people are going to ask. Are we getting

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions and outdoors week one, who scored six points

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<v Speaker 1>against the Packers? Are we getting the Lions outdoors in

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<v Speaker 1>Week eleven who scored nine points against the Eagles? Or

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<v Speaker 1>are we getting the Lions in Week two who beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears at home indoors by thirty one? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>getting the team to beat the Browns indoors at home

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<v Speaker 1>by twenty four? A We're getting the team to beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Bucks indoors at home by fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been years since the Detroit crowd has been

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<v Speaker 3>this excited about the Lions. Talk about rescoring the roar,

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<v Speaker 3>listen to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do we think the Giants are more like? The

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<v Speaker 1>Bearers in week two, the Browns whenever. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>feel confident, like everything you just said about a bounce

0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>back spot on Jared Goff and this team has shown

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<v Speaker 1>us enough that they know how to manage when things

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>aren't going well, and they will have a sort of

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 1>mentality that does not accept this kind of performance. We've

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<v Speaker 1>already seen it multiple times this year. I do believe

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.359
<v Speaker 1>we will see it again this week. You get the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants betting against Jamis, and the full Jamis experience does

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<v Speaker 1>not scare me here. Simon, you're my bff, You're Mike Campadre,

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<v Speaker 1>you're my co host. I'm with you one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>minus ten and a half for this. I will ask

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<v Speaker 1>that in return you support me later in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair, And like I said, it's just a unique

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<v Speaker 3>spot lines. That was the first time they have scored

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<v Speaker 3>double digits in like fifty games, so you know they

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<v Speaker 3>got embarrassedlack we last week putting them nine points, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I just don't think the public will be

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<v Speaker 3>on him here.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm making it this bet.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't think people are a little scared off

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<v Speaker 3>by them right now, and they might be sucked in

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:11.680
<v Speaker 3>on this Giants team.

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<v Speaker 2>This number, I just I want you to take the

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Lions here. It's too low. This number ship closer to thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're getting some points here because one team covered

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.639
<v Speaker 3>and looked pretty well, played pretty well, where the Lions

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.119
<v Speaker 3>just got embarrassed. And that's the last thing people remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, we do have to ask why do we think

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<v Speaker 1>it moved from eleven and a half to ten and

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<v Speaker 1>a half on you know, Sunday night and Monday, because

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the public betting into the eleven and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I mean the professionalism bent the Giants this

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<v Speaker 3>year and it's been good for him, So it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. They just they like the Giants the profitable,

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<v Speaker 3>but the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>This year we don't. And we'll take all the sharp calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we really haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets at Baltimore Ravens. Ravens are thirteen and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, has moved down half a point. We're already

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<v Speaker 1>on the Seahawks, We're already on the Lions. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>no need to figure out a way to bet the

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Ravens and I can't find a way to bet the Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I shockingly kind of like the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 3>but I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I can't get over how bad this Jets

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<v Speaker 2>team is and terrible. Like my biggest.

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<v Speaker 3>Issue is Lamar in this team. They're definitely not worthy

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<v Speaker 3>of this number in any sense. They have not played

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<v Speaker 3>well consistently at all this season. The hardest part for

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<v Speaker 3>me is just going through all the numbers where it's

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<v Speaker 3>like the more the Ravens they own the Jets every

0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 3>time they play. They just dominate this team historically. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know at home, Ravens six and zero straight up

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<v Speaker 3>five and one against the spread against the Jets, winning

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 3>by fourteen points per game historically. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if people know this. The Ravens only been around since

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<v Speaker 3>like ninety nine or two thousand. It's not like a

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<v Speaker 3>long battle. They've just dominated in the last twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar is more of an eight point favorite his career.

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<v Speaker 3>He's sixteen to eleven against this spread. So if you

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<v Speaker 3>are going to bet the Ravens, I get it. I

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<v Speaker 3>think me and Chat I've already talked about we're allar

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<v Speaker 3>enough favorites this week. I can avoid this, but I

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<v Speaker 3>get it like I'm tempted here. I just think this

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Jets teams atrocious and they could easily get rolled here

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<v Speaker 3>in many different ways. So I got away over the

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<v Speaker 3>last week with Cleveland against this Ravens team. I'm not

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 3>trying to go back to the well the Jets. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'll end up in my pick pulls, probably end up

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<v Speaker 3>on the Ravens. But I know, people, I'm on three

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<v Speaker 3>huge favorites this week. It's it's a weird week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look that I was just gonna say, Like the

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>flip side is we just bet the Ravens to cover

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>our bases to make sure if we're betting three big favorites,

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 1>we got them all, and we don't choose the two

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that lose and we leave out the one that wins.

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<v Speaker 3>My buddy is a sucker who bets ten point like teasers.

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<v Speaker 3>He is loving this week, and I'm like, my god,

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<v Speaker 3>this is usually not a good sign.

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<v Speaker 1>The first game. I agree with you about Lamar. In

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the first game against Miami, to me, he wasn't great,

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>but that was sort of an ease yourself in game

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<v Speaker 1>after the injury, and last week we knew we didn't

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 1>expect him to be great because it was against the Browns.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a rock fight. This to me feels like

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<v Speaker 1>when with the Ravens having now for in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>this is when Lamar sort of gets comfortable and unleashes,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that he's not against division rival on the road

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not his first game back, when he's a

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit still a little bit tentative. So I can't

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<v Speaker 1>The New England Patriots are visiting the Cincinnati Bengals, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are seven and a half point favorites. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Flacco may still be banged up. Jamar Chase will not

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<v Speaker 1>be in the game because he was spitting on Jalen Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything about this game with a Bengals secondary that is

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<v Speaker 1>so suspect and so susceptible to big plays. Second most

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<v Speaker 1>yards per past, the most EPA, highest EPA per past

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<v Speaker 1>the forced fourth, lowest QB pressure rate. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I need to go on yet. The fact that the

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 1>hook is still out there baiting us is weird to

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>me because it's clear the books are just hoping against hope,

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>against hope. The professional betters are going to come in

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals because they know how much money they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get on the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, easy bet, easy spot, long term winner if Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's Joe Flacco, it's a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it's not, I am happy to not have

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<v Speaker 3>zero dollars and not invest in this game and walk

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 3>away from it. So I got money to burn, I

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 3>can bet. I'll bet the Bangal here people want to

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 3>be patient and make sure it's Flacco. I can't fault

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 3>you for it because I will not have any money

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 3>invested in a Bengals quarterback not named Joe Flacco or

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, if you're looking for why this.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Is such a magical spots, it's the key thing we

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 3>talk about all the time with football is how hard

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 3>it is to win consistently. It is so hard to

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 3>string together wins consistently. And that's what's been shocking about

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 3>this Patriots team. And they're in a unique spot. They've

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 3>won eight straight games, this team that like again another

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 3>team the nerds are just beating up because they're just

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 3>not as good as their record perceives and how the

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<v Speaker 3>public per season.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just simply not so.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I think where I like, I love and respect

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 3>for Abel and I think that's part of the record

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 3>and how great Mays played obviously at MVP level, but

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 3>again eight straight games they won.

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Now they're on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>Teams in this exact spot since twenty ten, fourteen and

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<v Speaker 3>thirty four against the spread. Nightmare, And like you just

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 3>keep going back, you know, teams an eight wins streak

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 3>are thirty nine sixty sixty one and two against the spread,

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 3>so thirty nine percent since twenty ten. That's eleven and

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty and one against the spread since twenty twenty. So

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 3>like all these numbers like you give you people, it's

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 3>just a really really bad spot. It's just hard to

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 3>play at a high level consistently and just not have

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:22.239
<v Speaker 3>things bounce against you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we say all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a really stupid game with a weird shad ball.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not going to bounce your way and eventually

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>it's going to catch up to you. So we're simply

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 3>playing the number here. There is zero information a data

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<v Speaker 3>I could give you why to back this Bengals team

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 3>on the field. They are terrible defensively. The Patriots, especially

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 3>scheme wise, can outscheme them. Drake may is playing at

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 3>such a high level, it's just simply playing a number

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<v Speaker 3>on an overvalied Patriots team.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they better than the Bengals? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they seven and a half points better when it's

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Joe Flacco? No, that's that's an egregious number where I

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 3>think that Bengals can keep it close and this this

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Patriot's defense can be passed on. So it's just once

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 3>again not going to be hammered because it's out. We

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 3>don't know yet he's gonna be the quarterback, but historically

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 3>it's just a bad spot for this Patriots team. But

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 3>the books, the number reflects that if this was six

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 3>and a half, I could talk us into taking the

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Patriots now it was still under seven.

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 2>But it's not.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>It's just moved too much. In my opinion, I got

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to give about the seven and a half on the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally agree. This is a week where there's a lot

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of from a historical betting perspective and from the way

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.959
<v Speaker 1>professionals like to look at these games, and we've got

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple of them coming up. Weird spots, numbers in

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>which the advantage is to the team that just got

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>blown out and it makes you uncomfortable. And one of

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>those games is definitely the Cincinnati Bengals plus seven and

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a half. They are just begging you to take that

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half. I'm with you. I'll be curious

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:52.479
<v Speaker 1>to see. Like on Thursday, we're gonna have another conversation

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>about this one. The more about the quarterback. But if

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that seven and a half is out there, I would

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>not be uncomfortable playing it, like the confidence I have

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>today not having a guess that was just guy. We

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>got so many games going to be brutal for us

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>this week, Indy at Kansas City. Kansas City is a

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 1>three point favorite. This one has moved from three and

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>a half down to three. It looks like it could

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>move back to three and a half. The juice is

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>telling us it's going to move back to three and

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a half. I have an opinion. I think I know

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>where you are. That's my opinion. I just want to

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>make this statement. I want to sort of illuminate you. Ready, Yeah,

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>what defense gave Mahomes the most trouble in the early

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>part of this decade? Was it the bills? Uh no

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you start no, no, no, no, no, just say yes

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>or no, yes or no? Was it the Bills? Go

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>with me on my gimmick? Here was it the Ravens?

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>No Cincinnati Bengals. Who was the team that consistently beat

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Who was the team that said they owned Patrick Mahomes?

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Remember all the fights between the mayors of Cincinnati and

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. Who is the defensive coordinator for that Bengals team?

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Who is now the defensive coordinator for the Indianapolis Colts?

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Lou anroumo I looked at the stats twenty twenty one

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>when the Bengals went to the Super Bowl and beat

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs in the playoffs, and twenty twenty five with

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the Colts defensively, the stats are almost exactly the same

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>running I would say eighty percent of the same scheme.

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>If this Colts defense is healthy, can they get into

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes Lanes the way those Bengals teams that gave them

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the most trouble used to do?

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Why are you laughing at me?

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 2>It's you. I just let how long you go with

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>some of these things? I don't know.

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I felt like we were gonna take I'm gonna take

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 3>the Colts no matter what.

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get back to three and a half.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 3>So I'm not going to force an this show, but

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 3>this was gonna be what mis Simon says if it

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 3>was three and a half start hard Rock.

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I really love the Colts.

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 3>It's stupid, but there's certain teams players just struggle with,

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 3>and Mahomes has always struggled against the Colts, doesn't matter

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 3>who the quarterback has been.

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he literally lost in his career.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 3>He has one and two straight up and against the

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>spread against the Colts. His two losses one was Matt Ryan,

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 3>the other one was Jacoby Brissett, So Matt Ryan in

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two, Jacoby Brissett and I don't even know

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen. He's just struggled against him

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason that is. And it's a unique spot.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 3>It's a Colts team off of bye week, which you know,

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 3>bad teams, I don't think bye weeks are that big

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 3>of a deal, but really well coached teams, I think

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 3>it is a big deal. And the Colts, to me,

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 3>are really well coached team, even how bad their defense is.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 2>They've been really competitive in every game they've been this year.

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 3>And you know, it all goes back, it goes back

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 3>to this Mahomes team, it's not the same mahone And

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 3>we've said it this year. There is something a little

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 3>different and it's starting to show up what the difference is.

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 2>They're zero to five in one score games.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like we talked about it.

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like at the end of.

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 3>The day, that's the biggest thing, right, it's just not

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.399
<v Speaker 3>winning close games and just doesn't feel like a game

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 3>they blow out, right, I don't know about you. I

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 3>don't think they blow out the Colts. It can happen, right,

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.439
<v Speaker 3>It's Daniel Jones. We know we're been into. He could

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 3>totally pumpkin throw three four picks and that's how it goes.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 3>But just matchup wise, it's it's really a two. This

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 3>number should be most people have this model two one

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 3>and a half. The Chiefs are getting the bump from

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 3>what they've done before and the same thing I talked

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 3>about that Broncos number. I just they weren't a three

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 3>and a half point better team. I didn't think they'd

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 3>went out right, But you know that's that's the year

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 3>it's been for this Chiefs team.

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of unique stats to back here with

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>this Colts team.

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 3>It's a rare spot right, it's a cold team going

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 3>off of by facing against a Mahomes team and Chiefs

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 3>team teams in this exact spot against Mahomes there's six

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 3>and three against the spread, covering by five points in

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 3>those matchups, So Mahomes struggled when those teams are underdogs

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:06.320
<v Speaker 3>against Mahomes in this spot.

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 2>So off of bye week.

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Playing Mahomes, they are six and one against the spread.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 3>The only loss forty nine ers in that Super Bowl

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 3>against the Chiefs.

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:20.399
<v Speaker 2>So historically this is a good spot.

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Think about what needed to go right in that Super

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Bowl for Mahomes not only to cover, but win that game.

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know people remember, it's like everything broke their

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 3>way in that fourth quarter. So it feels like we

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of things work in our favorite with

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 3>this Colts team. It's really about the line. I'm not

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.319
<v Speaker 3>going to make people bad a bad line like hard rock.

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 3>We say they're a sharp book. The Pros have hit

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 3>the Colts. They bet this down, shop around, go find

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 3>the three and have find the hook on the Colts

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 3>because we'll need it. This game easily could be the

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Chiefs winning by three. We know Mahomes is due to

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 3>have a type of game. But it's just about the

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 3>number for me. I just I think we're getting inflated

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 3>line of the Colts, well rested Colts team that going

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 3>to be able to move a ball against this Chiefs defense.

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota at green Bay. Green Bay is a six and

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>a half point favorite at home. Right now, Josh Jacobs

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>is questionable. It's possible we're gonna have to make a

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>call on this game without knowing his availability. At the

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I'm not sure that matters because

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:20.959
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings defense continues to be suspect against the run,

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>giving up one hundred and forty yards to the Bears.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>What we do know is that JJ McCarthy is very

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>good in the first fifteen and very good when his

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>team is down in the fourth quarter, and in between,

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>he looks like a rookie who's overthinking, not thinking inaccurate

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>when he's not pressured. If this were seven, do we

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:50.760
<v Speaker 1>bet the number and bet the Vikings assuming cardiac JJ

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.720
<v Speaker 1>will kick open the back door at six and a half.

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really into this game.

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we're both in the same page.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 3>I just we don't trust either quarterback or either a

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:08.240
<v Speaker 3>team right now, Green Bay or the Vikings. This feels

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 3>like a Vikings number. I am shocked they've kept it

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 3>under seven. Maybe I'm underrating all the injuries the Packers

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 3>have suffered, But how can you trust JJ.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 2>On the road. He's just so inconsistent, He's so bad.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 3>You would think this would be such a big moment,

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 3>too big of a spot for him to show up.

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 3>But my god, they're just getting pounded by Packers and

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 3>money and this is touch seven a couple of times

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 3>and come right back down, so slay. The pros are

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.479
<v Speaker 3>on the Vikings, they're back on them here, and yeah,

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a unique spot, right the Packers for

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 3>some reason LA floor struggle against KOC. Like historically they're

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 3>in a weird spot too, where they've lost three straight

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 3>or they've lost two straight I should say against the

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 3>spread and straight up against the Vikings, which hasn't happened

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 3>in since two thousand and five for the Packers. So

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 3>whatever it is these last couple of years, I guess

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 3>going towards the Vikings. But I still think some of

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 3>those stats, it's like I just I can't get over

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>how bad JJ is.

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think we're on the same boat. I'll

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 2>pass this one.

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 3>I probably should be on the Packers, but I just

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 3>I can't trust them right now.

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Is big favorites agree.

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we're going to agree on this

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>next one, but I asked you for support and this

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>is going to be one of those games. Cleveland at

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. Las Vegas right now is a three point favorite.

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.760
<v Speaker 1>It's moving higher most books that are three and a half,

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.319
<v Speaker 1>which makes me sort of not want to offer it.

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's almost Chad's choice. The Las Vegas Raiders minus

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>three look last night was ugly. And when George Pickens

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>starts looking like he's Darnell Washington, the three hundred pound

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>tight end for the Steelers, and he's running over people,

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>he's running through people, he's stiff arming people. Plus he's

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>making guys look like they're not even trying to tackle them.

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>That is a bad look for Raiders, for the Raiders defense,

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>it's a bad look for people betting on the Raiders.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a bad look for people rooting for the Raiders.

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Gino did his part getting the team into or just

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>outside the red zone, throwing picks, taking sacks, not getting

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>them touchdowns. However, team coming off a blowout at home

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>against a team that just had its max effort in

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.879
<v Speaker 1>the prior week, a Browns team we know gives up

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>ten more points per game on the road than it

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>does at home. This feels like a light them up,

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Gino moment. Prove you're a professional. I'm on the Raiders

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a minus three.

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 3>Let's have a conversation to a minus three and a half,

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 3>because that's where I think we're gonna have to make

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>a real decision. Because I agree with you and everything

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 3>you've said. My biggest reason just for you to take

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 3>the Raiders here is just Sanders possibly might have put

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 3>up the worst quarterbacking we've ever seen, just data wives like,

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.319
<v Speaker 3>which is shocking if you go through how horrible some

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 3>quarterbacks are playing. I mean, I'm blank on his name.

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 3>I just had I just lost it. I remember we

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 3>had a guy who started against the Chargers. I think

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 3>he threw like five or six picks in his first start.

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I know you were talking about he played for

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 1>the Bills for a while too. I think that's the

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>fifth interception tonight from.

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 3>We've just had a run of just horrible quarterbacks, and

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 3>even that, Sanders somehow did worse in his performance, so

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll support it. It's a unique spot too, where it's

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 3>it's a Browns quarterback making their first start, which we've joked,

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 3>but we've been playing it. We automatically play the other

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 3>side and take the money line because it's it's got

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 3>proof to it that they're ow to seventeen their last

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>seventeen quarters for Sanders. The last time a quarterback is

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 3>one making his first start for the Browns was nineteen

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 3>ninety five.

0:41:58.120 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the name of the quarterback?

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't Tim Couch was it. First name was Eric

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Eric Kramer. I don't know.

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>His last name was spelled ze i e R.

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he played quarterback for Georgia. I think his number.

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of him. So you remember him from

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:15.359
<v Speaker 2>back in the day.

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I remember from back in the day.

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 2>So that's the last time a Browns quarterback has started

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 2>and won.

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.879
<v Speaker 4>His first their exire I think was his name, Yeah,

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety five.

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Check. Yeah, So that's what I.

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Want to be against you and be like this is

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 3>we're backing Genos Smith, which you know, anyone can look

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 3>up the numbers.

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Gino Smith.

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 3>I think he's eleven and twenty against the spread as

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 3>a favorite. He just you hate him as a dog.

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 3>You don't want to bet him as a favorite. He's

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 3>even worse as a favorite. He's terrible as favorite.

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>But too late.

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it feels like a unique spot. Are we going

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.240
<v Speaker 3>to take Raderos on minus three and a half? That's

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 3>that's the choice there. And once again it's there's a

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 3>bunch of spots, uh, numbers that are just bad against

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:54.760
<v Speaker 3>the Browns. I haven't sanders here the Browns since twenty

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 3>twenty two. When they're playing a team with a one

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 3>percentage below forty percent on the road, they are two

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 3>and nine straight up, one and eleven against the spread.

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 3>They've lost seven in a row in this spot, and

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.919
<v Speaker 3>we've talked about they're just a different team. They're terrible

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 3>in the road. This Browns team, their defense just simply

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 3>doesn't travel. So I hate this one. I was hoping

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 3>we don't get avoid it, not bet it. But I

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 3>know there's a lot of numbers we love the Raiders.

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 3>So I'll be up front people, I'm gonna be heavy

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 3>on the money line of the Raiders. I don't know

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 3>how much I'm gonna touch minus three and a half.

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 3>I just I can't get over it. G you know,

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 3>minus three and a half favorite, But I have a

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 3>feeling chat might get me there come Sunday morning.

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, if we're not gonna do Geno, then let's

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>do something else that's really gross. And this one is

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be Chad's Choice presented by hard Rock Bat. I

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>am going with the Arizona Cardinals plus two and a

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>half against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Are you sure you want to do this? Are you

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 2>willing to make a choice? My choice? We can't run

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 2>from way? Are sharp news can just see it? You

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. I just bet the Cardinals plus

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>three against the Niners didn't work out for us. I know.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Jacoby Brissett just sent a just set a record forty

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>seven completions, going forty seven to fifty seven in the

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>game against the Niners. This is a team that started

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 1>off playing very competitive and has been trending worse and

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 1>worse and worse and worse every single week. But I

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think Trevor Lawrence is long for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Let me give you some stats, because the Jags just

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>beat the Chargers thirty five to six. Liam Cone basically

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 1>took the ball out of Trevor Lawrence's hands in that game.

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>On the first TD drive of the game in the

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>first quarter, he threw two short passes, there was a

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>long DPI and then it was all runs. On the

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>third drive of the game, he threw a pick. Overall,

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>he was fourteen of twenty two for one hundred and

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>fifty three yards. They ran it forty seven times for

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ninety two yards. My point is, I

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>got a team at home as a dog off a

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 1>blowout against a team that just blew somebody out, and

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're just looking at the score, you think that

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a really powerhouse team and they're not. I'm just

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>not going to be a buyer of the Jags. I'd

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>much rather invest in the Cardinals. It's moving to three,

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 1>so like I wish I could have waited and made

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>it Chad's choice at plus three. It just hasn't gotten

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 1>there yet.

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the backup a little what you're talking about

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 3>bout it being a blowout.

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:36.720
<v Speaker 2>Since nineteen ninety, we've had teams blow.

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.720
<v Speaker 3>A fourteen point lead entering the fourth quarter a couple

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 3>of times, and they tend to bounce back right the

0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 3>following game. So when they do bounce back the game

0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 3>after that game, they are seven and twenty four straight up,

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 3>nine and twenty against the spread. And even more so,

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 3>since twenty sixteen, teams in this exact position that this

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Jaguars team is in, they are zero to seven against

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 3>the spread.

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just a bad spot.

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 3>The win the game after the comeback, So basically I'm

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 3>blown out or not?

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't they blown out?

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 3>They get a team come back by down by fourteen

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.439
<v Speaker 3>to fourth quarter, they win the next game like they did, big,

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 3>big win. They tend to lose the following game, right.

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.879
<v Speaker 3>There's a letdown there. And that's what I like about

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 3>these trends of stark updata because it just shows it

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter if it's different teams and the people changed,

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.600
<v Speaker 3>it's it's human like these guys have a letdown.

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 2>It's just only natural.

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 3>On the flip side, this has to be rock Bottom

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 3>buying the Cardinals.

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 2>They did something that I've never seen.

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna look into it if it's real, but in

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 3>my life I cannot remember again. Going back twenty five

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 3>years now, Flying Football, a team gave up forty points

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 3>to a divisional opponent and then gave up another forty

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 3>the following week to a divisional opponent. You just don't

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 3>see it, Like they gave up forty four points to

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Seattle then forty one to the forty nine ers. So

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 3>you would think their coach, who's a defensive guy, would

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:01.040
<v Speaker 3>get it right and this would be a spot they

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 3>would bounce back against Trevor Lawrence and this Jags team.

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 3>Like it's just it feels like a really nice lined

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 3>up spot for this Cardinals team to get a win

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 3>and bounce back where they've struggled. Right, they had that

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 3>huge Monday night game against Dallas, and they've not handled

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 3>it well. They got like I just said, they got

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 3>blown out two games in a row against divisional opponents.

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 3>You expect them to bounce back get right here, and

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 3>like Chad said, this is really about the number. Like

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 3>this Jaguars team, this is going to be a public darling.

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 3>People are hammering right now, and they're undervaluing of Cardinals

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.960
<v Speaker 3>team that, Yeah, they've looked bad, they've been embarrassed. They're

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 3>not three points worse than this Jaguars team and Trevor Lawrence.

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 3>So I'm with you, Chad, I like the Cardinals here.

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Can we not talk about Atlanta at New Orleans? New

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Orleans is a two point favorite at home. That's astonishing

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to me. Like terrible teams. Falcons went from three to

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 1>two to three and sevens three and seven. Poenix is

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>likely out for the year. Tyler Shock versus Kirk Cousins.

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's icy hot Bowl too. After the Flacco

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Rogers game between how old these guys are, so let's pass.

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 2>We can.

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm like you, I wanted to be on

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 3>I want to be in Atlanta. Maybe that should be

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 3>assigning me I should be on the Saints though, because

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 3>like you said, you shouldn't have a real opinion on

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 3>this game. I will give some stats just we all

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 3>know how terrible Kirk is, but I really want people

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 3>to hear these numbers just about how atrocious Kirk Cousins

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 3>has been. They are one in five straight up owens,

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 3>six against the spread, and Kirk's last six starts dating

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 3>back the last season and Kirk's career, which again he

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 3>was pretty good.

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:46.720
<v Speaker 2>The guy made a ton of money.

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 3>He is is eight games against the Saints. He's four

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 3>and four straight up, three and five against the spread,

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 3>against the Saints.

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Even more glaring.

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 3>In his last four games against the Saints, he is

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 3>oh and four against the spread. In the Super Doom,

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:03.879
<v Speaker 3>he was owing three against the spread. He's just he's

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:06.360
<v Speaker 3>gotten worse when the numbers back it up. He's consistently

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 3>got worse, and it's hard not to overrate him because

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like we're seeing it right now.

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I almost got sucked in.

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting Kirk at some books of plus two against

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 3>the Saints.

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 2>They almost got me, Chad, they almost got me.

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Even for the show I talked about It's like, man,

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like the Falcons here, but the more

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 3>you look into the numbers, he's just been atrocious. It's

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:27.839
<v Speaker 3>just I can't back him here. So I really wanted

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 3>to fade the Saints. Like again, they came off a

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 3>huge win, then had a bye week, you expect them

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 3>just to totally faulter here in this spot. But maybe

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 3>the Falcons are what they are, just one of the

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 3>worst teams in football, loss of five or six straight games.

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Now Kirk Cousins in there, who's just been deader than dead,

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Like I just read those stats.

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 2>He's just been atrocious.

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:49.320
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I guess people can pass on it for

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:50.479
<v Speaker 3>my pickpolls and other stuff.

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll play in a bet in the Saint especially at

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 2>minus one and a half.

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Uh Philadelphia Dallas. Dallas is now at hard Rock a

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>three point underdog. When this game opened, it was Philadelphia

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 1>minus four and a half, so it's come down quite

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a bit. It's a three and a half in a

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of places, but three at hard Rock, so a

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 1>point and a half to a point. I think it's

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the hardest games on the board to handicap

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:19.280
<v Speaker 1>this week because are we buying the Cowboys improved defense,

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, with Quinn Williams and all those guys who

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.880
<v Speaker 1>came back and they they got to look good against

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>a bad Raiders team? Like are we worried about the

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Eagles offense still now? With Lane Johnson being injured, Fred

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Johnson is playing in his place. I think that's kind

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of a big deal. We've seen how ineffective this offense

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 1>can be without Lane Johnson, and it's more ineffective than

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>when they're playing with Lane Johnson. So I'm having a

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:52.399
<v Speaker 1>hard time with this one.

0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, We'll say this as an Eagles fan from the top.

0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 3>The Eagles are well wearing their Kelly Greens, which they

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 3>are five straight up, four and one against the spread

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three. But no, the the professionals are showing

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 3>their hands here. They just they've taken this number down

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.360
<v Speaker 3>from four and a half to three. Shocking to me.

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Shocking to me. The Eagles are such, so, so much

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 3>better than this Cowboys team in every aspect. The only

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 3>the only spot you feel confident more obviously is the

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys is the fact that they have a passing offense

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 3>that seems like it travels and it plays pretty well.

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 3>But this is going to be the hardest defense the

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys have faced obviously this year. So and minus three

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 3>I'm tempted to give up the Eagles here, but I've

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 3>put my money behind the Cowboys at a plus number.

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 3>It's just the Eagles offense is so battering now, it's

0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 3>so dysfunctional.

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 2>It has to catch up to them.

0:51:48.239 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Like they can't keep getting away, keep getting away from

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:53.800
<v Speaker 3>the need it coming to God or coming to Jesus

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.800
<v Speaker 3>moment here, they just they got to fire the oc

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 3>like it's it's egregious at this point. And this, like

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:04.800
<v Speaker 3>I talked about coming to the season, my biggest fear

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 3>was Siany won his Super Bowl and now they're letting

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:10.360
<v Speaker 3>him pick his OC and he picked his friend Kevin

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Patalou who up to this point it's just been egregious.

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 3>The offense is just so bad. It's gotten a zero imagination.

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:21.719
<v Speaker 3>You only get defended so much. If that's such a

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 3>tough schedule, it's like, well, here is an opportunity. They're

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 3>playing against one of the worst defenses in football. Where

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 3>I get they got guys back, I still think it

0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 3>does should not make a difference. Like Gino was one

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 3>that blew that game. They should have had a fourteen

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 3>to three lead to start that game. He had them

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:39.399
<v Speaker 3>settling for field goals. I just we've seen the Eagles

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 3>team if they get moving, if they get to the

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 3>red gene, they tend to score unless they turn the

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 3>ball over. So yeah, I cannot believe hard rockets hit

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.279
<v Speaker 3>to set three. It's really tempting to me to give

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 3>out the Eagles here, but unfortunately I've already bet the Cowboys,

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 3>so I think it comes back up and it's a

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys number three and a half. But I minus three.

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 3>If you haven't made a bet, I think that's a

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 3>good Cowboy. Good Eagles number. It's just at this point

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:06.359
<v Speaker 3>you're betting the Cowboys to win, because that's I don't know,

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I just can't see it. I cannot see this number

0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:12.160
<v Speaker 3>staying at three for this Eagles team. If it's stays

0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 3>at three, I might need to load up on this

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys side, because that's that to tell by the books

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 3>if they hold at that number, because it's gonna be

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Eagles will be one of the more public sides of

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 3>the week if they hold it three.

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna want to talk about this game again

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, even if we don't think we're gonna have

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 1>it in the final five. I think there's so much

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.879
<v Speaker 1>more to unpack with it, and we need another two

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>days to see how the numbers.

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys on a short week too, It's just I can't

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 3>believe the pros are loaded up on the Cowboys.

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Really interesting, given.

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:45.359
<v Speaker 3>A win or out situation and the closing moments got

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 3>no team was ever betten. You gotta lot of them.

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you gotta love the Cowboys. They're the most

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:52.240
<v Speaker 2>exciting team in the NFL.

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Like you pull it out, it's astonishing to me and

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder, like I feel like they're discounting the

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Eagles off too much and inflating the Cowboys defense too much.

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:07.680
<v Speaker 1>To me, this feels like a bet on the Cowboys

0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:10.960
<v Speaker 1>defense and that it improved and as much as anything else,

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 1>And we don't know that yet. All we know is

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that they did well against a Raiders team in Gino Smith, who,

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact we're going to back them this week

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:23.800
<v Speaker 1>against the Browns, has generally been a terrible, terrible quarterback

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 1>this year. So I can't. I can't get there with

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys, and I've sort of just been hoping this

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 1>number keeps dropping so I can I can play the Eagles.

0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's put a pin in that one. We're

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>definitely going to talk about it.

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 3>And we're definitely playing a fire like we literally we've

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 3>gone three and two two straight weeks, both times Eagles

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 3>have been our third win. So we've been rying them

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 3>here for three straight weeks. But like we keep seeing,

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 3>the public keeps undervaluing them, and it might be happening

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 3>against you. Like you said, if it goes at two

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.000
<v Speaker 3>and a half, how could you avoid that number?

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's a telltale sign, right the public loves offense.

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 2>That's true, It's wise time, just laying an egg.

0:54:58.160 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Every week they're laying an egg.

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, look at the Cowboys just did back through

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 1>four touchdown passes. He sent in records on Monday Night football.

0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:07.360
<v Speaker 1>That's when you won. Fade a team. Let's get to

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the primetime spotlight. We got a Sunday night game. We

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>got a Monday night game. We know people like to

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:16.120
<v Speaker 1>bet these standalone games. Tampa Bay is visiting Los Angeles Rams.

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:18.760
<v Speaker 1>The Rams are six and a half point favorites. Another

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 1>week where it's a relatively big number for Baker. In

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks news from yesterday, Bucky Irving may may play

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>this week. Last week, Todd Bowles was pretty adamant he

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to play. In week eleven. He was limited

0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in practice three sessions. Last week yesterday at Todd Bowles

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.279
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit more optimistic that he could play.

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I tend to think a big reason why this Bucks

0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:47.760
<v Speaker 1>team has been struggling. You noted Baker scrambling, which I agree.

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I also think there's a dynamic with Bucky Irving that

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>we're just not seeing from this offense that changes it

0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:55.880
<v Speaker 1>for them. That started to become more and more clear

0:55:56.280 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the last few weeks when they've been struggling, Like the

0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:03.920
<v Speaker 1>problem with the Bucks this past week wasn't their offense,

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it was their defense. And Josh Allen, so isn't this

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:09.880
<v Speaker 1>number two big for the Rams?

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 3>And once again it's just I think I'm too close

0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:16.040
<v Speaker 3>to where, like I think I should be on.

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:17.439
<v Speaker 2>The Bucks like it was last week.

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 3>But everything's telling me, in my instinct wise to be

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.839
<v Speaker 3>on the Rams here. And the more I dove into

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 3>the numbers, the more I kind of played out that

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 3>way that this is technically a Rams spot and the

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:29.839
<v Speaker 3>Rams actually played really well here.

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, McVeigh shockingly.

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:36.880
<v Speaker 3>After he plays divisional opponents gets his guys up for

0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:39.799
<v Speaker 3>the following game, he's thirty four and seventeen straight up,

0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:42.719
<v Speaker 3>thirty and seventeen and four against the spread in this

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 3>exact spot after you plays divisional game where Baker on

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:49.320
<v Speaker 3>the flip side, he's not great in these nighttime games,

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:50.760
<v Speaker 3>which I always thought was true.

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 2>And like when I.

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Look when I when I'm back and looked at it,

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 3>it's like, Okay, how bad is Baker? Especially I want

0:56:57.160 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 3>to dive into him as a dog because that's what

0:56:58.640 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 3>he is here.

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 2>So as a field goal underdog at night.

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Baker one in eight straight up, oh and eight since

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:09.839
<v Speaker 3>he's joined the Tampa this Bucks team. Him and Todd

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Bowles at night together, they're two and eight straight up

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 3>so Bowls obviously, this isn't great in that games either.

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Pretty shocking though that you know, Baker's had thirteen games

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 3>he's played at prime time at night, He's two and

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 3>eleven straight up, four and nine against the spreading those games.

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 2>So whatever it is. Like Baker, we talk, we love

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:30.240
<v Speaker 2>him as a dog.

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, their numbers at backup that he

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 3>struggles with this game because I just can't believe how

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 3>big the numbers. Once again, it took a miracle for

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 3>that Bills team to cover that number. Like Baker put

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 3>up his best fight, he put up a ton of points.

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Now we both agree Rams defense is much better than

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 3>the Bills defenses. Right, they have not had anywhere near

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 3>as bad as injury luck as that Bill's defense has had.

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's six and a half. I get why

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 3>the pros are beat in this RAMS team. I get

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.680
<v Speaker 3>why this numbers move. So I'll go with the Prosser,

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I'll bet with the Rams, But I hate I hate

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 3>going against Baker, but it just seems like he struggles

0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 3>in the spot.

0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Hate it. Here's what's interesting. Here's what's interesting. The boxer

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 1>playing Sunday night across the country. They could lose to

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the Rams. The next night across the country in northern California,

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Carolina Panthers are visiting the San Francisco forty nine ers.

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>They're seven point underdogs. If the Bucks lose and the

0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Panthers pull out another miracle, which tends to be their

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 1>mo all of a sudden, the Panthers could be in

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>first place in the NFC South. And I cannot get

0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to the Niners minus seven in this game because I

0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:52.480
<v Speaker 1>think there are so many problems with their defensive backfield

0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 1>right now, and we're seeing it week after week after week.

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Brock Perty coming back is great, that rush offense. When

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Perty is there, Kittle is there, McCaffrey has more opportunities.

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:07.240
<v Speaker 1>He does called the game differently, like he sees the

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 1>defense differently. He puts players in different position once they

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 1>go into checks and audibles and things like that. But

0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.440
<v Speaker 1>then I'm talking about then Mac Jones. I think the

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 1>real difference here is Bryce Young scrambling stepping up in

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the pocket being accurate against the depleted Niners secondary. I'm

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:28.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be on the Panthers at plus seven.

0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I am too.

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 3>I just do not get this number. It's another game.

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm a want to dive into more. Because we talked

0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:38.160
<v Speaker 3>about it Sunday night. I couldn't believe it. I could

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:39.920
<v Speaker 3>not believe it again, the Panthers plus seven, I mean

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:41.600
<v Speaker 3>hard rock here has moved to the six and a half,

0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:45.320
<v Speaker 3>which feels like it's the right line movement. You know,

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:49.640
<v Speaker 3>how how do the Panthers and Bryce you Young handle

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:52.560
<v Speaker 3>him throwing for four hundred and fifty yards and three

0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:55.560
<v Speaker 3>touchdowns a week before, right, It's got to historically be

0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:57.040
<v Speaker 3>a bad spot the following game.

0:59:57.080 --> 1:00:00.240
<v Speaker 2>It's just you can't duplicate that, and.

1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:04.880
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a weird spot for this team where, you know,

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 3>since twenty eighteen, this Panthers team, when they're coming off

1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:11.720
<v Speaker 3>a game where they scored thirty plus points, they're five

1:00:11.760 --> 1:00:16.320
<v Speaker 3>and sixteen against the spread, I mean, just a disaster.

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:19.440
<v Speaker 3>They're two and thirteen straight up and against the spread

1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:23.360
<v Speaker 3>in their last fifteen times in this exact spot. So

1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:26.320
<v Speaker 3>we're basically betting like we did last week. We need

1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Bryce s youungk to be the difference. We need him

1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:30.200
<v Speaker 3>to be the superhero because the trends are just terrible

1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:30.960
<v Speaker 3>for this Panthers team.

1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:33.440
<v Speaker 1>They just we always need that their defense is terrible.

1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:35.960
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna be terrible. Christian McCaffrey could run for

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:37.200
<v Speaker 1>a thousand yards in this game.

1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:39.240
<v Speaker 2>He could.

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:43.640
<v Speaker 3>And what I keep going back to is just fading

1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:45.880
<v Speaker 3>this foreigners team. There's tons of trends we've been going

1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:48.000
<v Speaker 3>on this year about fade them after their wins and

1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:50.360
<v Speaker 3>just how bad they've been at home as well. Like this,

1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:53.240
<v Speaker 3>you know this year we've talked about a little bit,

1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:55.680
<v Speaker 3>but you can go back to twenty twenty three. They're

1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:59.480
<v Speaker 3>eight and fifteen at home against the spread, eight and fifteen,

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:02.360
<v Speaker 3>Like they've just struggled and been overvalued by the market consistently.

1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:05.800
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's a not much a takeaway from them,

1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:09.040
<v Speaker 3>the fact that they keep getting overvalued. Shanahan is a

1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:11.880
<v Speaker 3>six point favorite. He usually wins those games. I think

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:13.960
<v Speaker 3>he's nine and four straight up in this exact spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a big favorite. But against the spread since twenty

1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:20.640
<v Speaker 3>twenty three, I think it's since Christmas or right before it,

1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:24.440
<v Speaker 3>he's three and nine against the spread, including zero to

1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:27.160
<v Speaker 3>three in the spot where they are coming home as

1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:31.000
<v Speaker 3>a favorite after a win. So we keep talking about

1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:34.440
<v Speaker 3>that stat since Christmas. Basically, they win, they lose, they win,

1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:36.800
<v Speaker 3>they lose. It's one to fifteen now against the spread

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<v Speaker 3>after a straight up win and a cover on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, Chad, it feels like it's too easy.

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<v Speaker 3>The public and the pros are with us on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>All the money, all of it is pointing in right

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<v Speaker 3>now at almost every book on this Panthers team. So

1:01:50.200 --> 1:01:52.360
<v Speaker 3>I am happy to see the number moved. If it didn't, Budge,

1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:54.160
<v Speaker 3>I would have told us we got to avoid it.

1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:55.760
<v Speaker 3>But the fact that it's moved has given me some

1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:58.160
<v Speaker 3>faith that we're on the right side. I just I

1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:00.200
<v Speaker 3>think the books aren't value brace Shung and how well

1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:02.720
<v Speaker 3>he's played, and they keep under undervaluing him this year.

1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:05.280
<v Speaker 3>So we've been on the side with Bryce Freeze laid eggs.

1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:06.960
<v Speaker 3>We've been burned by him a couple of times this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you just said, defensively, this feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>A great match with the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they can stop the run, and

1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:15.480
<v Speaker 3>they sure us all can't stop the past. So if

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<v Speaker 3>bray Sean brings his a game chat, I think we

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<v Speaker 3>got a really great number here with Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I agree, it's going to be interesting. We

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<v Speaker 1>got I think we got about eight or nine games

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<v Speaker 1>that we're we're feeling pretty good about or at least

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<v Speaker 1>like somewhat from from good to very very very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati good, Seattle very good, Detroit very good, Pittsburgh good,

1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Arizona most excellent. Las Vegas mooe, mooe, caliente. Uh, Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, rams Eh, Carolina good.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got some work to do between now and

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday to get a little more intel. We'll hear more

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