1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John middlecop three and Out podcast, 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Colin Coward Podcast Network. Back 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: at it again. I think we're all excited. It's here 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: football season. All these teams are reporting the training camp 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: all over the country in the next several days. All 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: the veterans should be probably in by the end of 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: the week. Uh, it's time. And as it's time, I'll 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: probably amp this up game plan. Hopefully it's do more 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: than one. I mean, it's gonna be so much information. 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: I I got takes, I got thoughts on on everything 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: that's happening. And we'll just keep the ball rolling. Uh. 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: We got a big show today. Uh. I've got some 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on Julio Jones, Todd Gurley just signed a big contract, 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon m I a the Raiders debacle, but I 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: want to start with Julio and his holdout. And there 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: was a good a good article by my friends at 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: The Athletic and The Athletic, a subscription based site that 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: full disclosure, I write for. I'm biased. It's incredible. It's 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: the best sports writing on the internet. I really don't 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: think it's close. Right now, they have seventeen different teams 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: covered and they're expanding. It feels like every day. Jason 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Butt of the of The Athletic wrote something and by 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: the way, if you go to the special link and 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: you use the athletic dot com backslash j middle, you 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: will get a year subscription for three dollars a month. 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: That's thirty six dollars. But I want to talk about Julio. 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: Jason Butt wrote this article on the Athletic, the Atlanta 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: uh the site and if you subscribe to the Athletic, 29 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: you will get everything. You get access to every city, 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: every team, every sport, you name it. You get full 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: on access. What Julio jones imminent holdout means for the Falcons. 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about Julio. I recently put 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: a large five figure investment into Netflix, and for me, 34 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: the investment relative to how much I'm worth and what 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: I make was a lot. It was a very bold move, 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: and for the first couple months, I would say six 37 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: months of my investment, it was just it was incredible. 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I was making so much money and I 39 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: hadn't planned I trade stocks on the side, but I'm 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: not I wouldn't consider myself a day trader. I'm more 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: of a buyer and I hold on and if it 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: gets to the point where I've made so much money, 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: I sell. But I'm not trying to get a quick fix. 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: I just saw something that I believed in. I put 45 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: a large sum of money for relative to myself, and 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: I plan on holding it for I would guess the 47 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: equivalent of a long term hold, you know, five, six, 48 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: seven years. I'm in no rush to sell, but at 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: one point in time I will move on. But recently 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: the money has come back and it's basically trading four. Now. 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: What I bought it for, which was really expensive. I 52 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: paid a lot. It was three fifty dollars a stock 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: when I bought them, which anyone that knows the stock market, 54 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I'd say anything above two hundred dollars is a really 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: really expensive stock. So it was expensive. But it's a 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: long term play. But one day I have to pick 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: a point. I haven't really done it in my mind 58 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: that when I get to a threshold, whether that's eight 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, whether that's a thousand dollars, or worst case scenario, 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: it starts going the other way. Let's say it gets 61 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: to you know, drops a hundred dollars a share that 62 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to sell. That's the stock market, right, 63 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: And I look at Julio Jones. The Atlanta Falcons originally 64 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: invested so much into Julio Jones. Remember they traded. They 65 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: basically went from pick all the way up to six. 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: They gave multiple first rounders. It was a bold move. 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Belichick told Thomas Demitrough, one of his pupils, do not 68 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: do it. I had a lot of friends that are 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: in the business world when I told about my future 70 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: investment Netflix, are like, don't do it. Like, well, now 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. Thomas de Meatrof didn't listen to Belijack. 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: He did it, and unlike me with the Netflix stock, 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens the next several years. Julio was 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: a royal hit. It was a home run. They have 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: experienced seven years of one of the best wide receivers 76 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: in the league. You know, he's a borderline Hall of 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: Famer if his career ended right now. Uh just maybe 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: his stats don't quite show it because the stats aren't 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: quite as great as when you think about it. But 80 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: if you watch him, he's a dominant player. But I 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: would say this not many players in the NFL non quarterbacks. 82 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: Are were three contracts. The Atlanta Falcons paid him a 83 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: lot as a rookie, then they extended him several years 84 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: ago at a premium, made him the highest paid wide 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: receiver in the league, as he had earned it. They 86 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: have now got seven years, made the playoffs several times. 87 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Made at the NFC Championship. I think was it, you know, 88 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve or thirteen when they played they lost 89 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: the forty niners in the year I guess it was 90 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: would have been like January of two thousand thirteen. A 91 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: couple of years later there in the Super Bowl, end 92 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: up losing. Uh, but they've got you know, he had 93 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: a stretch in two thousand fourteen and two thousand fifteen 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: where he got a hundred hundred four balls a d 95 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: six balls the last couple of years in the mid eighties, 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: only three touchdowns. Last year, I'd argue, it's probably time 97 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: to sell. Uh. This guy's holding out now he wants 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: a new contract. I'm not into giving Julio Jones a 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: third contract. To find the Atlanta Falcons, I bought high 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: and then he exceeded the value of what I paid 101 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: for him. The seven years were well worth it. He 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: has been a good guy, a dominant player. Helped me 103 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: win a lot. But things change, and in the NFL 104 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 1: things changed rapidly. I talked about it all the time. 105 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: You can't get emotional with players non quarterback. They just 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: probably overpaid Matt Ryan. But Matt Ryan is exponentially more 107 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: important to their success than Julio. They have also And 108 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: one thing that uh that but talks about in this 109 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: article is how well they've drafted recently. You know, guys 110 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: like Dion Jones. You know that's Vic Beasley. If these 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: guys keep going where it looks like they're going, they 112 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: are going to be really expensive. Well guess what. That's 113 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: the way the NFL works. You start paying second contracts 114 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: to the elite guys you draft later. You don't give 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: a third contract for a guy based on what he 116 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: had done previously. Because more than likely Julio's best football 117 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: is behind him. He's twenty nine years old by two 118 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. I think he he'll turn thirty into early 119 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. Uh. Usually once you get over 120 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: that thirty year old threshold, most guys aren't. Larry Fitzgerald, 121 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: I would bet against that, you know, most guys peak 122 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: in their mid to late twenties. You also just drafted 123 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the first round. Now, I'm not 124 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: saying Calvin Ridley is Julio Jones. He's not, but you 125 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: have to be willing to take the emotion out. If 126 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: you could get a first rounder right now and get 127 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: away from this contract, to me, it's a no brainer. 128 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: I would be shopping Julio Jones heavily right now now. 129 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: If Julio was not holding out wanted to play on 130 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: the ten at a half a million, I'd have no 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: problem doing that. But it sure seems like he's not happy, 132 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: and there is just no way on God's green earth, 133 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm giving him a third contract. I'm just not doing it. 134 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: I would let him play out these couple of years, 135 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: which are you know, ten plus million for the next 136 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: two years, no problem, but he's clearly uncomfortable with it. 137 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: And I don't really want an uncomfortable superstar because really 138 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: it's Matt Ryan's team, but it's the Atlanta Falcons are 139 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: pretty synonymous right now with Julio Jones, and if he's 140 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: going to be a problem or not happy, I don't 141 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: really want him around. I'm trying to set a tone. 142 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: We're trying to win a championship. And let's face it, 143 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: it's been proven over and over you do not need 144 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: a star receiver of Julio Jones ilk and level to 145 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: win championships. You just don't. So I'm on the phone 146 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: right now. If I get the forty Niners to give 147 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: a first round pick, if I could get the Dallas 148 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 1: Cowboys to give a first round pick, the New England 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: Patriots to give a first round pick, you name it, 150 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: I will trade Julio If I'm Thomas de Meetroff, who, 151 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: as news broke this morning, just got a three year extension, 152 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: so he's not going anywhere. He has stability. You get 153 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: credit for making this trade and for hitting on Julio. 154 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: You also get credit on moving a year early instead 155 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: of a year late like that. That's that's a smart move. 156 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: That's why you just drafted Calvin Ridley in the first round. 157 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: You may he may never be Julio, but he's still 158 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: a big time talent. So I personally, uh, you know, 159 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: you have to draw a line in the sand that 160 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: you go. You know, I'm not giving this guy a 161 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: third contract, not because he's quote unquote not a good 162 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: player anymore, but because I'm betting against him maintaining this 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: level of play for the next five or six years. 164 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: You can find so much great sports writing on the Athletic. 165 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: I've been reading it from since the beginning, since the 166 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: day it opened in the Bay Area, which was last 167 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: I think August. Onest I write for it twice a 168 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: week during football season, mainly cover in the forty Niners 169 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: and the Raiders, but I also talk uh Draft. 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I'm telling you, it is incredible. The Athletic 200 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: dot Com backslash J Middle. Let's dive into Todd Gurley. 201 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: He just signed a big a massive new contract yesterday 202 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: for forty five million dollars. It was an extension, And 203 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: I think there's two elements of this I want to 204 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: hit on. First, I want to talk about the running 205 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: back market, and second, I want to talk about his 206 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: contract and Brandon Cook's contract and how that, you know what, 207 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: why those aren't included when we talk about Aaron Donald. 208 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: But let's first start with the running back market. Yesterday 209 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter, all I heard was the running back market 210 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: has been reset. Levian Bell is gonna cash in this spring. 211 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: Levian can't wait to hit free agency. And I just 212 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: thought to myself, like, why are the sports media so 213 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: dumb with this stuff? And really the fact because they're 214 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: they're so clouded by being so pro player that they 215 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: don't quite understand. And they're a lot of reporters are 216 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: very pro agent because that's where they get all the 217 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: or information, so their tweets sometimes are a little skewed. 218 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: But I don't think Todd Gurley's contract has anything to 219 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: do with Levian Bell. Just like in any business, certain 220 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: people to certain organizations are are just more important than 221 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: other people to other organizations. It's just it's just black 222 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: and white. Despite that, guy in the separate organization being 223 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: really good at his job producing, he might be more 224 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: replaceable than the other guy. And I'll tell you right now, 225 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: for the Steelers, Levian Bell is more replaceable than Todd 226 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Gurley just based on the simple fact that Pittsburgh has 227 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and Juju Smith. The Rams do not have that. 228 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: They think they have that in Brandon Cooks. I personally 229 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: think that that contract was pretty terrible. But Todd Gurley, 230 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: I heard Colin Coward say this that when he rushes, 231 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: when he does not rush for a thousand yards, I mean, 232 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: excuse me, a hundred yards in the game. There are 233 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: some five team He also is so vital in their 234 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: passing game because he's a pass catching running back. Now 235 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: people say, so's Levian Bell, true, and he's phenomenal. I actually, 236 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: if I just had a game or a you know, 237 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: a probably one season, I might take Levian Bell. Levian 238 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: Bell is, in my opinion, a better player. I think 239 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley is actually a little flawed as an inside 240 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: runner and when it comes to his instincts as a 241 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: running back. But I'll tell you this, Levian Belt. Two 242 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: things that I never see discussed by NFL reporters when 243 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: they're talking about Levian deserves his money. His leg was 244 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: snapped two years ago, literally snapped in half. Now, big picture, 245 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: his game isn't predicated on speed, so it's not a uh, 246 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's not a deciding factor in terms of 247 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: judging him how he's going to play in the future. 248 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: As we just saw last year. He's still a great player. 249 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: But having been someone that worked in the front office 250 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: when someone gets injuries, I was the person that input 251 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: them into the system. Every injury is accumulated by every 252 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: team throughout you know, the NFL. So again his leg 253 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: was snapped. Also, he's been suspended regardless what you think 254 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: of marijuana. I personally don't care. You can smoke, you 255 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: cannot smoke, do you. The NFL has rules, just like 256 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: a lot of business has rules, and people bitch and 257 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: moan all the time about the goddamn rules, but the 258 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: rules exist. You know, when you're gonna get tested, you 259 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: know you can't get in trouble. And three or four 260 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: years ago he was driving to the team plane and 261 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: got caught hot boxing, So I mean, not the smartest 262 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: individual going. And then on top of that, now Antonio 263 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: Brown has been to so I it's not like Levian's 264 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: by himself. And in fairness, big Ben is somewhat diva 265 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: ish as a quarterback, but you get to be he's 266 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: somewhat of a pain. You know, he's somewhat of a pain. 267 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I would if I was the Steelers, I'd let him walk. 268 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: And I also think that if this guy hits free agency, 269 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: no oh one is going to pay him as much 270 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: as Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley is also three years younger, 271 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: so Levian Bell and Todd Gurley are both looking for 272 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: their second contract. Todd got his, Todd's three years younger, 273 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: never been suspended, never had his legs snapped. Now he 274 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: did have an a c L injury, and as we've 275 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: seen the less last several years, for a guy that 276 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: hangs his hat on high end speed, that's how he 277 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: separates himself, it has not affected him. He can still 278 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: haul ass. So when I hear the running back market 279 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: has been reset, no it hasn't. No, it has not. 280 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley is just an outlier like David Johnson right 281 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: now wants a new contract. How in God's green earth 282 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: is David Johnson going to get close to as much 283 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: money as Todd Gurley just got he just missed the 284 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: entire season last year with a broken wrist. And I 285 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: think David Johnson is awesome personally thirty five ish million, 286 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: I'd pay him ten million dollars less than Todd Gurley. 287 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: And he's fantastic, and I would. You know, clearly, as people, 288 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: it feels like Todd Gurley and David Johnson are a 289 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: little easier to deal with Levian Bell. But you're gonna 290 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: hear this all year whenever Levian shows up, probably before 291 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: a week one, did Levianan's gonna break the bank? He 292 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: is gonna just pull up to Wells Fargo and say 293 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: pay me my cash. No, I I can't see a 294 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: team in the NFL giving Levian Bell next year when 295 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: he hits free agent free agency as a twenty seven 296 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: year old with a suspension, is past with a shadowed 297 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: leg in his past, with some you know, holdouts in 298 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: his past, with issues not getting along with the easiest 299 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: organization to get along with, uh and clearly not even 300 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: the most important player on his offense, non quarterback. We're 301 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: just saying non quarterback, we're Todd Gurley. It's not even 302 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: a question. He's in his own stratosphere when it comes 303 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: to importance of what he brings the table in that offense, like, 304 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: that's not even arguable. So I promise you the narrative 305 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: will take on a life of itself. Levian Bell is 306 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: not getting paid. Also, I see people in Twitter the 307 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: narrative NonStop is God, Aaron Donald's gotta be mad. Look 308 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: at their paying all these other guys. Well, I view 309 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: it like this. If you're gonna buy something that's worth 310 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars, and you're gonna you're also purchasing 311 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: things that, let's say, and this is crazy amount of money. 312 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: Most people can't relate to this, and I can't either. 313 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: But if you were prioritizing buying something that's worth a 314 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars and you were a business, that would 315 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: be a pretty substantial buy. And then if you were 316 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: buying things like between thirty and forty million dollars, those 317 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: might be a little easier to buy, right, might be 318 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: easier to negotiate. It's easier to part with that amount 319 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: of money relative you know, thirty or of the big purchase. 320 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: It's just easier to do that deal. You buy those 321 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: two things, they add up to the other one thing. 322 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: So when I see people like, oh my god, I 323 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: can't believe they broke off Brandon Cooks, which personally, I 324 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: don't think that's a great contract. I would not have 325 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: done that or paid Hodd Girley before Aaron Donald. Well, 326 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: those deals are just easier to do. Obviously, Aaron Donald 327 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: is going to get way more money. Maybe he'll get 328 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: the amount of money that those guys got guaranteed combined. Hell, 329 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: he might get more. It would it shock you if 330 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: he got ninety million dollars guaranteed. No, but that is 331 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: a very complicated deal to do. He is going to 332 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: be the highest paid non quarterback in the history of 333 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. That is a complicated deal. Regardless of how 334 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: much you love him, regardless of how talented he is. 335 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: It is just easier to go, Hey, Todd, here's forty 336 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: five million dollars guaranteed. Todd probably ran his four three 337 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: legs to the facility to sign that contract. Brandon Cooks 338 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: when he was handed his contract, I still haven't seen 339 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: the exact guaranteed money. I think it's twenty non injury 340 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: and fifty injury guaranteed, so combined, that's you know, fifty 341 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: forty million dollars between the two of them guaranteed. Brandon 342 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Cooks has just been traded by Belichick and Sean Payton 343 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: in the last twelve months. He would sign that deal 344 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: so quick. If you put either one of those contracts 345 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: in front of Aaron Donald, he puke in his mouth. 346 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: So it's just people need to so social media with 347 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: sports journalists are just so clueless when it comes to business. 348 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: I mean it's just a fact. I expect many of 349 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: their opinions in their ability to break news and have 350 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: insight on teams, but when it comes to business and 351 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to numbers, I really put zero value 352 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: in it in anything they say. So no, Aaron Donald 353 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't be shocked, and no one around the league, with 354 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, a general manager or people in front offices, 355 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: are shocked at all. They might be shocked at like 356 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: why did you give Brandon Cooks that amount of money? 357 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: But no, ship those guys are gonna sign the deal. 358 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: Like They've probably put countless contracts in front of Aaron 359 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Donald that might have been for a lot of money, 360 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: seventy five guaranteed, and he might just say no. I 361 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: would imagine he's saying, I'm signing that well, if you 362 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: can get other players that don't affect that player to 363 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: sign contracts, it's just good long term business. So these 364 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: two contracts have literally zero effect on Aaron Donald. They're 365 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: just much easier to sign. Let's go out to Cleveland 366 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Brown's training camp. Obviously hard knocks gonna be there this year. 367 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: They just inked yesterday Baker Mayfield the number one overall pick. 368 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: So I think a deal with over three two million 369 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: dollars fully guaranteed. But I would say the big story 370 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: coming out of Brea, Ohio right now, and you can 371 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: read all about it on the Athletic just go to 372 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: the Athletic dot Com. Backs. Last j middle my guy, 373 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Zack Jackson. I've been following him forever on Twitter and 374 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: now obviously read a stuff on on the Athletic dot 375 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: Com in Cleveland. Uh wrote about Josh Gordon yesterday, And 376 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: the thing that came out yesterday with Josh Gordon is 377 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: that he's basically taking a leave of absence to get 378 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: health wellness, and he's not gonna be around. And I 379 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: probably developed this life philosophy three or four years ago. 380 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: It's hard to stay true to this in football. But 381 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: if I was a GM the one thing I would 382 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: do in the draft or signing a free agent. And 383 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: I would do this in my own life if I 384 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: ever caught wind of doing a partnership or doing a deal. 385 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: I would never ever do business with an addict. And 386 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: I know people on Twitter and the PC police would 387 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: be like, how can you say such a thing? Well, 388 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I would not when I say I would never do 389 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: business with an addict. Why Because in business it's all 390 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: about in a capitalistic society that's known in America, it's 391 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: about producing. And to produce typically you have to be available, 392 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: you have to be there to actually do something. And 393 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: as we've seen with Josh Gordon now several times and again, 394 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want about marijuana. And I 395 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: hear this all the time about marijuana. I'm not a 396 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: big smoker, you know. I not to say I've never 397 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: done it before in my life. It's obviously legal in 398 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: the place I live. People tell me all this time 399 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: about marijuana whenever I've been in arguments or whatever on 400 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: social media. Not that necessarily means anything. It's not an 401 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: addictive drug. Well, everyone I know that smokes basically smokes 402 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: every day, and some people can function just like some 403 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: people can function on alcohol, they're called functioning alcoholics. Some 404 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: people clearly cannot. Josh Gordon clearly cannot function. He can 405 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: have stretches where he functions, and then he has stretches 406 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: where he can. The Cleveland Browns that have a new 407 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: general manager, a new face of their franchise in Baker Mayfield, 408 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: are now in the position where they're depending on players. 409 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: They just traded for Jarvis Landry, paid them a lot 410 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: of money, just drafted Denzel Ward really high last year, 411 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: drafted Myles Garrett number one overall. They have Jamie Collins 412 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: as their you know, star inside linebacker. They are trying 413 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: to take a step, trying to win some games this year. 414 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: And Josh Gordon, because his talent is so tantalizing. You 415 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: hold on and you hold on and you hold on, 416 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: and he just let you down, let you down, let 417 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: you down. And obviously I'm rooting for the guy to 418 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: get his life right. That's the most important thing here. 419 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: But if I'm in the Cleveland Browns organization are but 420 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: we're trying to win, we are, We're playing football, and 421 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: he is not available because he has to take care 422 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: of himself. Now, I commend them for staying by him. 423 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: But let's not act like it was all because they 424 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: truly cared about the person. If he stunk, they would 425 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: have got rid of them. It was because he's an 426 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: elite player and the reason they continue to stand by him. 427 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: And again it's it's a great personal story for them 428 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: to say we care about the person, yet you conditionally 429 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: care about the person. If he wasn't a flat outballer, 430 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: he would have been gone a long time ago. And 431 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: when I say I wouldn't do business with addicts, it's 432 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: easy to not do business, you know, in the football 433 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: world with a bad player that's addicted to something, you 434 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: just cut him. Or in the business world, a guy 435 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: that can't make any money or a company whatever, you 436 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: just yeah, I'm not gonna do But it isn't it. 437 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: It's easy. It's more difficult to say that, right when 438 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: you have an all pro level town. Or if some 439 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: dude wants to partner with me and some podcast venture 440 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: that's an addict. But he's like, hey, man, I can 441 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: make you like four grand a year doing podcasts. I'd 442 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: be like, oh, call me, but what when can we meet? 443 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, And I I just think the Cleveland Browns 444 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: the best move, and I know that PC Twitter would 445 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: crush him. And you can't depend on this guy because 446 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: he has addictive qualities that clearly derail his life, and 447 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: right now, clearly, for him, his life is the most 448 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: important thing. He should work on it. I hope he 449 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: has a you know, healthy and prosperous rest of his life. 450 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: But if if I was John Dorsey and I was 451 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: leading the Cleveland Browns, I would never hang on to 452 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon anymore for dear life, because it's been proven 453 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: over and over and over again that he's just not 454 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: a dependable individual. And right now, in where the Cleveland 455 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: Browns are at, with their kind of maturation and growth 456 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: as a football franchise and this youth movement they have going, 457 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: do they really need this? Just if I was a 458 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns fan, I'd ask me, like, why are we 459 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: doing this? I get that he's really tough, but what's 460 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 1: the point. You know, we just traded for Jarvis Landry. 461 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: We have all these other stars on offense. Our offense 462 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: could be really, really good, and I don't think we 463 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: need to depend on this guy. I think we we 464 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: stay helping him out any way we can. But from 465 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: a football standpoint, it's now proven that he struggles to 466 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: help us out mainly because he's not there. And I 467 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: think if more general managers now in a typical year, 468 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: there aren't that many addicts coming out in a draft. 469 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: But if I ever found out and you've seen this 470 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: with Randy Gregory and you know he's finally coming back, 471 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: and you saw this forever with forty standing by Alden 472 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: Smith with with some of his alcohol issues. When you 473 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: when you stand by those guys, they borderline consistently will 474 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: let you down. Well, let's get to the last topic 475 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: of the day before we we dive in to the 476 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: middlecoff mail bag as we always do. I got a 477 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: bunch of questions. We'll try to bang him out in 478 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: the next month leading up to uh the regular season, 479 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: but I gotta got dived down the whole that the 480 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: black hole that his the Oakland Raiders, and I'm sure 481 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: we'll get in the clear Max situation because I would 482 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: expect a major hold out. I'll probably talk about that 483 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: next week. Aaron Donald probably hold out too, uh So 484 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: that'll be a probably a consistent theme. But I just 485 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: want to talk about the organization as a whole. In 486 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. And I said this several years ago, 487 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: and people thought I was just kind of an asshole 488 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: and just picking on the team. And I nothing changed 489 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: about the Oakland Raiders the last several years. Beside Derek 490 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: Carr and Khalil Mack showing up, the organization was still 491 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: run very asked backwards and behind the times relative to 492 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: most teams throughout the NFL. And nothing was more on 493 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: display than that. This week they made a change at 494 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: the in the radio booth with at the end of 495 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: the day, in an NFL team, it's not that big 496 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: a deal. Full disclosure. I used to work with Greg 497 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Papa at a radio station, the voice of the Raiders 498 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: for twenty plus years, easily one of the best, if 499 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: not the best, in the business radio play by play. 500 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: He had a famous touchdown Raiders call. He was beloved 501 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: by the fan base. Why because he was freaking good 502 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: at his job. Well, him and Mark Davis head of 503 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: somewhat of a falling out because of something he said 504 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: about hiring Mike Shanahan several years ago, and Mark Avis 505 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: could never let it go ultimately fired him this week 506 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: for an eighty year old Brent Mustburger. I love Brent Mustburger, 507 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: absolute legend in the business. But I say this all 508 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: the time. If you're eighty years old, I'm sorry. In 509 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: the broadcasting world, you shouldn't be broadcasting at eighty years old. 510 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: You just you can't do it. But you're just You're 511 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: a shell of yourself. You're you're a name. You are 512 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: not good anymore. I say it about Marv Albert. I 513 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: grew up on Mauler Albert on those NBC games with 514 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's in the mid nineties. He is probably the 515 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: best TV commentator for play by play in basketball. Ever, 516 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: he's not good anymore. I'm sorry if you watch him. 517 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: He misses plays players all the time. Hugh be Brown 518 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: for ESPN is eighty four years old in calling NBA. 519 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: That's an embarrassment. Brent Mustburger, I don't think it's ever 520 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: done television or I mean, excuse me, radio play by play. 521 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a disaster. The game's too fast. He's 522 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to see. It's gonna be really bad. 523 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: But the Raiders, who everyone's like, they've turned to leaf 524 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: Mark Davis. The look at how the franchise has grown 525 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: in value. Well in the last ten years, everything in 526 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: America has exponentially grown in value, from homes to businesses 527 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: to especially NFL franchises. He didn't do that much. You know, 528 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: let's let's not act like he's the reason that they've 529 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: doubled in value. Like, no, every NFL team is doubled 530 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: in value the last several years. But the thing that 531 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: happened last week is Tom Flores, who won two of 532 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: the three Oakland Raiders Super Bowls back in the eighties. 533 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: Living legends. Some people argue as a Hall of Famer. 534 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite a Hall of Famer, but 535 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: just a high level, high quality individual. Met him several times, 536 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: uh went to Sanger High School in the Valley, California. 537 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: Guy just as nice of a human as you'll ever meet, 538 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: and was the head coach on two teams that won 539 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowls for the the Oakland Raiders in the eights. 540 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: Just a just a legend inside the franchise. He's been 541 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: on the radio broadcast with Greg pop in the last 542 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: several years. Probably shouldn't have been around, you know, probably 543 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: should have been you know, moved off the duty years ago. Well, 544 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: this week when Greg Poppa was fired from Brent Musburger 545 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Tom Floores again, that was the head coach for two 546 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: of the three championships. All you have to do is 547 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: give him a simple phone call. He reads on the 548 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: internet that he is being replaced. That can't happen. Like 549 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: that is so low level, But that is the Oakland Raiders. 550 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: Like not again, not much has changed except Derek Carr 551 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: and Khalil Mack. They got some better players. They hit 552 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: on a couple of draft picks which they hadn't really 553 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: hit on tripcks in twenty plus two years. They had 554 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: to pay, and I see this. John Gruden has said 555 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: this multiple times. When he was introduced at his press conference, 556 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: someone asked about his contract and he said he didn't 557 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: know anything about his contract. You have to ask his agent. 558 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: My jaw hit the floor. Then this week he said 559 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: if he doesn't come through, he will give his money back. 560 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: I I can't believe it. There there's not much more 561 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: that I hate than fraudulent people when it comes to money. 562 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: And you see this a lot. And I see this 563 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: living in the Bay Area with tech people like Mark 564 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg's Like we all owned Facebook together. No, Mark, you 565 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: owned it and you did forty one billion in revenue 566 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: and you profited off it. All of us gave you 567 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: our information willingly, but you own it. Bezos loves to 568 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: be like, it's all I'm all about the charity. No, Jeff, 569 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: You're about wiping other businesses out and making huge margins, 570 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: as you should be in a capitalist society. But don't 571 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: act like it's not about the money. Gruden to pretend 572 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: you didn't know your contract and then say you give 573 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: your money back, it's bullshit. You came back first and foremost, 574 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: obviously Derek Carr Khalil Mack, coach of the Raiders where 575 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: you got traded from you, who made them pay you 576 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars, an owner that is the most 577 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: cash poor owner in the NFL. You bet him over 578 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: the negotiating table, which, again in capitalistic America, is fair. 579 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: But you don't get to pretend that it wasn't about 580 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: the money. You could have come back for sixty million dollars, 581 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: like maybe a coach. I think Andy Reid just got 582 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: a contract extension last year. It was like fifty million dollars. 583 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the going rate for sweet coaches is like 584 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: around fifty million dollars. It took double that to get 585 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: John to say yes, he could have come back for 586 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: sixty five. He made them pay him a hundred million dollars. 587 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: So I I just struggle with the Oakland Raiders in 588 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: terms of their organization is taking all these big steps. 589 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: They're now turning into like the New England Patriots, you 590 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: know where the Pittsburghs like now they still do business. 591 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: When one of the most famous individuals in their organization 592 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: they were going to fire him, he had to find 593 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 1: out in the newspaper work and by media people calling 594 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: him and then their head coach, who I'm actually bullish 595 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: on from. I have buddies on the staff. I think 596 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: he's really I've heard he's good. I mean I've heard 597 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: he's really impressive in meetings, that he knows offensive defense 598 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: and the special teams could install them all. So I'm 599 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: not anti Gruden, like I know Collins a little down 600 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: on the Raiders. I think they're gonna be pretty competitive. 601 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: But I do think Gruden has been a little fraudulent 602 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 1: about his contract. It took him a hundred million dollars 603 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: to come back. He didn't come back for the love 604 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: of the game, for the love of the Raiders, for 605 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: the love of Ocalan no, bro, you came back for 606 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars. More power to you. But just 607 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't even expect you to say that, because it's 608 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: people resent wealth in this world and it would be 609 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: a bad look. But but don't go the other way 610 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: and pretend you're something you're not. You love your money, uh, 611 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: you love your money a lot, and you need to 612 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: do more work and helping out your organizations trying to 613 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: take this new step in incredibility. That when you're firing 614 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: Tom Flores and he's find and out on the Internet 615 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: or the newspaper that's getting delivered to his house in Fresno, California, 616 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: that is beyond an embarrassing look. That's low class. That 617 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: that's just something low level organizations do. It's one thing 618 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: to fire a broadcaster, though I think it's a huge downgrade. 619 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: It's another thing to embarrass a living legend in your organization, 620 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, through social media. That's that should not happen. 621 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: So that everyone trying to tell me that the Oakland 622 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: Raiders have changed, I'd argue, nothing's changed. Some things just 623 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: stay the same. Well, let's get to my favorite segment 624 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: of the day, the Middle Cough mail bag. If you 625 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: go to iTunes in the review section leave a review, 626 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: and some people have tweeted at me, what if I 627 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: don't have? You know, I don't listen on iTunes. I 628 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: listen on Google Play or I Heart Radio or all 629 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: these other these avenues where you can listen. I also 630 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: do this. If you don't follow me, you're you're missing out. 631 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: Go to on Instagram at John Middlecoff. My d m 632 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: s are open. You can slide up in them and 633 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: ask me questions and I will answer them either on 634 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: Instagram or on here. And I'm gonna start doing that 635 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: next week. So if you go to at John Middlecoff 636 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: on Instagram, follow me, shoot me a d m antaal 637 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 1: haller at you. Okay, well, let's get to my first 638 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: question from a guy named Titus. Uh says he's a 639 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: pulling guard from Fresno, California. Uh Bullard High School. Hi, John, 640 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: first time, long time. My question for you is this, 641 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: what's the deal with Josh Allen? Do we believe the 642 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: hype or is he gonna be a Brady Quinn situation? 643 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: The hell of a question there, Titus. My answer to 644 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is I don't like quarterbacks that can't complete balls. 645 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: You know, the most basic attribute that you have to 646 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: have in a position. You know, if you're a corner, 647 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: you have to run. If you're a salesman, you have 648 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: to sell. If you're a doctor, you know, a surgeon, 649 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: you have to do surgery. If you're a quarterback, you 650 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: have to throw the ball to your wide receiver. That's 651 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: like the most basic element of the position. And he 652 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 1: does not do that very well. Now, buddies in the league, 653 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: we're telling me when I went to the combine, I'm 654 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: telling you, John, you work with this guy, his talents, 655 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: aments you watch the right games, blah blah blah blah blah. 656 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: And guys I really respect, and guys that are of 657 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: my friends, the best in the business at what they do. 658 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: Like the guys that I just know are some of 659 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: the best scouts in the NFL. They liked them. I 660 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: just struggle with his inability to complete balls. And historically 661 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: it's been proven over and over and over again, the 662 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: inaccurate quarterbacks in college are interaccurate in the pros. Some 663 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: guys get better, most of them stay the same. So 664 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna tantalize with his talent, their offense, 665 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: their roster is terrible. I had a friend when Shady 666 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: got in trouble and it looked like, I guess he 667 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: didn't get in trouble. She might be lying, we don't 668 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: have all the information. I mean, he's showing up to 669 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: training camp when it looked like God is shading in 670 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: him this the entire season. Said, if Shady disappears, they 671 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: might have the worst roster in the NFL. Like that 672 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: team stinks, so it's gonna be difficult for him with 673 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: the guys he's throwing too. I won't go as far 674 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: as Brady Quinn, but I think more than likely I 675 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: would bet on him. If you had to bet on 676 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: hit or miss, and when I say hit, like become 677 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL for the same team 678 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: for the next ten years, or miss just not very 679 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: good for the Buffalo Bills, I would bet on miss. 680 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: So I'm with you, Titus. What's the deal with Josh Allen. 681 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm beyond luke warm, and I'm betting on him to fail. Okay, 682 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: let's get to Jordan Roberts. What are your thoughts on 683 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: the Foster suspension. In Ramsey's comments about Scheme, I think 684 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: Ruben Foster when it's all said and done. Given how 685 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: the beginning of the offseason started, you feel pretty good 686 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: about two games. Now, I'd argue should even be spending 687 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: two games. I know America loves to freak out about guns, 688 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: but last time I check, guns are legal in America, 689 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: and he had legally purchased a weapon. He had legally 690 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: registered it in Alabama. He just didn't bring it correctly 691 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: to California or something. His mistake was keeping it loaded. 692 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: But again I got news from you. I'm not a 693 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: gun guy. I come from a long line of gun owners. 694 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: A lot of my friends, you know, are farmers. They hunt. 695 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: You could find they have loaded weapons too. So it's 696 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: not most people that, especially the sports media, that talk 697 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 1: about guns. I also got news for you. They've probably 698 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: never touched a weapon or been around a weapon in 699 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: their life, so I really don't respect their opinion when 700 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: it comes to that. I don't judge Reuben Foster with that. 701 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: And marijuana. Again, you gotta be careful in the NFL, 702 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: but in the state that he plays, it's legal. More stupidity, 703 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: I get it. I I think he could have avoided 704 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: suspension altogether, and I think it would have been fair. 705 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day two games. Okay, 706 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: it's not that bad. Now it's on him. He should 707 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: never get in trouble again. Ramsey's comments Jalen reminds me 708 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: a little of Draymond Green. He just talks and just 709 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: basically never shuts up, has an opinion on everything. He's 710 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: really good though, Like Draymond, they if you, if you 711 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: are an elite player and you want to talk a lot, 712 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: that's your prerogative, So just run your mouth. But the 713 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: thing here is, Jalen, you got your ass kicked by 714 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy and Kyle, Like they took you to the wood shed. 715 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: You were playing, uh, you know, trying to get a 716 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: top two seed to get home field advantage, and they 717 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: kicked your ass. And at the time, it's not like 718 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: they were a one win team coming in. They had 719 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: won three straight games, they had some momentum. Everyone was 720 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: kind of blowing Jimmy, the hype was starting to really grow, 721 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: so I didn't really sneak up on you, and then 722 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: you just got beat. Sometimes just tip your hat. That's 723 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: my only thing with like, the one thing I'll respect 724 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: Draymond will do if you do kick their ass, He'll 725 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: tip his hat. To you, like Jalen is not at 726 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: that point yet a Jalen, sometimes you just get beat. 727 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: So the scheme, guess what, scheme is a big part 728 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: of football, and scheme is a massive part. He should 729 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: know as a cornerback of offenses, what routes they're running, 730 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: what you know, what their play action game is based 731 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: off their run game. That they're just million elements. And 732 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: the one thing I would say the forty nine is 733 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: now with Kyle Shanahan hang your hat on more than anything, 734 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: whether pre Jimmy Garoppolo or post Jimmy Garoppolo, is their 735 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: offensive scheme. Like, so, yeah, the scheme is important. I mean, well, 736 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: what do you think you're Jalen. So whether it's the scheme, 737 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: whether it's the route, whether it's the player. If you're 738 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: giving up touchdowns, bro, that's on you, guys. So I 739 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: don't put much stock into that, I think. And I'm 740 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: a huge Jalen Ramsey guy. I love a guy that 741 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: just talks, just runs his mouth and that can back 742 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: it up. Uh, those are some of my favorite people 743 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: in America. If you just talk a lot of ship 744 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: because you're good and you you deserve to. But sometimes 745 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: you lose right. Sometimes do you get your butt whooped, 746 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: you just tip your hat. So to me, Jalen is 747 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: wrong on this, and it'll be interesting to see if 748 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: they have a little bit of a down year. Just Jaalen, 749 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: keep on talking. I'd probably Betty does. Okay, great format, 750 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: easy listen, give the podcast a shout all mental fluff. Okay, John, 751 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: My question for you is do you think the Falcons 752 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: have the talent slash coaching to get back to the 753 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl in the next two to three years? Uh? 754 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: Just to me, the only detriment and obstacle for them 755 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: is not necessarily talent and players and Dan Quinn he's 756 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: proven he can get you there. It's just the NFC. 757 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: It's absolutely stacked, and plus their division. I mean, they're 758 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: gonna beat each other up. Clearly. I was bullish on Tampa. 759 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: That was before I've sold all my stock and Jamison 760 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm out on Jamis. I don't take them as seriously anymore. 761 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: But the other three teams, I mean, the Saints are unreal. 762 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: Caroline is gonna be solid. This is a really hard division, 763 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: so you're not You could have a ten or eleven 764 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: win sees and then you are a wild card team. 765 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: More than likely that happened. I look at last year 766 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: that the Falcons were good, they had to go on 767 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: the road in the first round. Now they took care 768 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: of business. But part of being a wild card team 769 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: is you typically have to go on the road two 770 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: weeks in a row, and you may only if you 771 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: keep winning. You may have to go three weeks unless 772 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: the seed. If you're the five seed and the sixth 773 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: seed makes a run too, So more than likely you're 774 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: not gonna have any home games. It's just hard to 775 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,919 Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. And then you know, once 776 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: you get to the super Bowl, it's kind of a 777 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: coin flip, but just getting there. For the Falcons, it's 778 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: all about winning the division. It's all about getting home games. 779 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: If they get home games, they got a legit chance. 780 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: If they're the wild card team, which may come down 781 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: for them. That might be the difference between a play here, 782 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: play there against the Saints, that's the difference of who 783 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: wins the division your wild card team. More than likely 784 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to make the super Bowl just because 785 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 1: of how difficult it is. Hey, John, I'm curious to 786 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: see if how you feel about the Raiders move to 787 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Will positively effect the forty Niners. Now that 788 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: they are the only team in the Bay Will the 789 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: Bay Area stores remove Raider gear gear? Will bitter fans 790 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: even start rooting for the forty Niners? Thanks Sean, you know, 791 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: I I'd say the forty Niners. And I know this 792 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: from you know, working with the athletic and seeing the 793 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: readership numbers for Niners articles, working in radio forever and 794 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: seeing listener numbers relative to the forty Niners and Raiders, 795 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: and then working in television knowing television ratings. It's a 796 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: it's a a blowout in terms of fans. I would 797 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: say it's probably eight twenty maybe even of just numbers, 798 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: just pure numbers. I'm not saying, like clearly the Raiders 799 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: fans are crazy. The Niners have the market cornered here, 800 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: so I don't know if much will change from just 801 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: their popularity in this area. They are the most popular team. 802 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: It's part of the reason Mark Davis, you know, had 803 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: to take a welfare check to leave, because it was 804 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: somewhat difficult for them, always the stomach being the second. 805 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 1: Like they they viewed themselves. I didn't I thought they 806 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 1: had a huge growth potential around here with Derek and Khalil, 807 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: but they viewed themselves like the red headed step child. 808 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: They never The crazy thing is, it feels like they 809 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: never truly believed in themselves in this area, like they 810 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: could never go toe to toe with the Niners, and 811 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 1: maybe realistically they could never have been like a fifty 812 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: fifty split. But I do think if they would have 813 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: won with Gruden and they were staying here, they could 814 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: have made up some ground. With Derek Carr, Khalil Mack. 815 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: They got a fun team that they don't feel like 816 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: quite as edgy as the Al Davis Raiders. And then 817 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 1: John Gruten, he just if he were to win, he'd 818 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: have a hardball like field to him. So they chose 819 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: they couldn't cut it, so they chose to run. Well, 820 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: Bay Area fans leave, I think as simple as I 821 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: was born in n I live right now, obviously in 822 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: the Walnut Creek area, which is twenty minutes away from 823 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: downtown San Francisco and twenty minutes away from the Colosseum 824 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: where the Raiders and A's and the right next to Oracle. 825 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: My parents, you know, about forty five minutes east of me. 826 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: And I was born and my dad was a big 827 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 1: forty Niner fan. But I just naturally grew up on 828 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,479 Speaker 1: the forty Niners two, partly because the Raiders weren't here. 829 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 1: So once they leave, and let's say I have a kid, 830 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: no plans on having kids yet, but let's say I 831 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: have a kid in five years. When he's born, I'm 832 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: just assuming it's a heat and when I do the 833 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: gender reveal, it's blue and not pink. So let's just 834 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: say I hit the bat or the golf ball and 835 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: it comes up blue. And then my kids born. You know, 836 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: I call him, you know, like Hunter or you know, 837 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: Whyatt or just some sweet name. I don't I wouldn't 838 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: call him Whyatt, but I'd probably just named John John Jr. 839 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 1: So John Jr. He's gonna grow up in a Bay 840 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: Area where the Raiders don't exist. So even if he 841 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: was open minded and didn't want to follow my lead 842 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: of just because by then in ten years, maybe I'm 843 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: just talking about the Niners because the Raiders are long gone, 844 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: that he would go, well, I'm just gonna be a 845 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 1: Niner fan. Two. They're the only team here. The Raiders 846 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't even be an option like me. Part of the 847 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: reason that so many people from like A to forty 848 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: or niner fans in the Bay Area is we were 849 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: born into an era where the Raiders were not here, 850 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, and now they're gonna be gone. So in 851 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: twenty thirty years, the majority of the Bay Area that 852 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: it's already they already have the majority. But I'm just 853 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 1: that number is gonna double like that will you know? 854 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: Or that fiftcent will be cut in half because those people, 855 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: the older versions will eventually die off. Uh, don't root 856 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: for death, but just inevitable. The only thing in life 857 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: that are guaranteed or deaf and taxes. So there's just 858 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: gonna be an amount of people in this area they 859 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: won't even know they were here. It's really that simple. 860 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: Sad because they'd have one of the great iconic brands. 861 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: And I always felt bad for them and that the 862 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: Raiders hated when I. I used to crush their dreams 863 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: of going to Vegas and it drove them nuts. And 864 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: I did it for two reasons. First off, I'm from here. 865 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: I speak for these people. This area is what matters 866 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: to me first and foremost. And I knew a lot 867 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: of people that were Raider season tickets and how much 868 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: they cared about their team and how they were always 869 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: texting me over the years about their team and when 870 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 1: I worked in the league. What do you think about 871 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: Raiders move? Their passion was just special and they they 872 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: got somewhat railroaded in this whole situation that was out 873 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: of their control, and I always feel bad for him. 874 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: Uh So do they remove Raiders gear? Businesses? Business? I mean, 875 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: if people are buying it, they won't remove it. If 876 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: people aren't buying it, they'll remove it. I love the podcast. 877 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: Have a Pack twelve question for you. Okay, I like it. 878 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm a little biased, but I feel like Oregon has 879 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: a really good chance of winning the conference and playing 880 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: in the playoff next year in the league with Justin 881 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: Herbert then go six and one when he played last year. 882 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: We also have a great defense which should be pretty good. 883 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: And obviously, Jim Levitt, I don't think Taggart was a 884 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: good game manager at all, and we honestly won't feel 885 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: the departure in anywhere else but recruiting. Many teams in 886 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve are down and we have Washington Stanford 887 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: at home. Good point with three cupcake nonconference games. What 888 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the Ducks chances next season. I 889 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: do think they're pretty good. I just I would put 890 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: Stanford and definitely Washington on a different level. Uh to 891 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: think that Mario crystal Ball is going to outcoach Shaw 892 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: and Pete even though those games are at home, and 893 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: anyone know if if they're good and they have good 894 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: records going into those games, Ots and will be rocking. 895 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: They have a legit home field advantage. My cousin back 896 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: in the day and the mid two thousand's played at 897 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: Fresno State, and I think they had like a four 898 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: straight years where Fresno State went to Ots in every year. 899 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: Oregan ended up coming to Fresno at one time. But 900 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 1: he's like, you can't even the guy standing next to 901 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: him the sideline, you can't even talk to him, it's 902 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 1: so loud. But the quarterbacks pretty solid. I I gotta 903 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: watch a little more of them before I just anointed 904 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 1: him as the guy. But I struggle with the head coach, 905 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: and I'm with you, I don't know how great Willie was, 906 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: but Willie, I mean, clearly he's doing something right. It 907 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: felt like Phil Knight and the Oregon brass was so 908 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: terrified of losing all these sweet recruits that Willie was 909 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: coming in. That kind of went with the easy choice, 910 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,320 Speaker 1: like is he the best football choice? That's where I 911 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,959 Speaker 1: would struggle with. Do I ever see Mario crystal Ball. 912 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: I've never seen him being as good as Shaw or 913 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: or Pete, But like, is he ever gonna be as 914 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: impactful as Mike Leach? Do? I think if I had 915 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 1: to bet on one guy right now for the next 916 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: ten years, I'd probably go with Justin Wilcox first. Now, 917 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,399 Speaker 1: if you told me that Oregon and their roster were 918 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: in the South, I'd say, hell, yeah, you could win 919 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 1: the South and then take your chances in the fact 920 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: World Championship. But I I just can't see them winning 921 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: the North. I can't see it. Uh. Maybe I'll be 922 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: proven wrong at year's end, but I would bet against 923 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 1: not their players, but against the head coach. Okay, let's 924 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: get one more and then a couple more of these 925 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 1: questions I'll get next week. Keep asking these questions. You 926 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: can send it on Instagram at John Middlecoffer Right here 927 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: in the review section. I two questions, Well, Andrew luck 928 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: be the same when he comes back from injury and 929 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: then he goes off the beaten path. This is Luke bless. Also, 930 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: I feel the Cowboys are very slept on team that 931 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. What do you see them 932 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: in the future. When I woke up this morning, Frank Wright, 933 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: the head coach for the Colts, said he not only 934 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: expects Andrew Luck to be full go once practice starts, 935 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 1: but you'll see him in the first preseason game. I'd 936 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: assume if he's healthy. I mean, I don't know if 937 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 1: he's like Andrew Luck in his prime four or five 938 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: years ago, but I do think he should be pretty 939 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,399 Speaker 1: good once he kind of gets his comfortable back there 940 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: and once he has a full year of training camp. 941 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: So if Andrew Luck's on the field, I would expect 942 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: him to be good. Now superstar Andrew Luck. That might 943 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: take some time, but definitely a quarterback worthy of beating 944 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: anyone on any certain you know week. I think they 945 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: are definitely almost like a sleeper just because if he 946 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: is good Andrew Luck, they could win seven, eight nine games. 947 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: For a team that struggled to win two or three 948 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: is now tripling that win output. Uh, It's definitely a question, 949 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: and I don't feel comfortable saying he's just a Pro 950 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: Bowl right away. You gotta see him play, but you 951 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: see the pictures physically, he looks healthy, and we'll just 952 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: have to see him in a couple of preseason games. 953 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: How Like, I'm not going to judge him in the 954 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: preseason games if they're moving the offense or not, but 955 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: just how does the ball look coming out of his hand. 956 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: He's never had a rocket, but he's always had an 957 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: above average arm. And also on the Cowboys, I think 958 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: they're gonna win the NFC's They're probably gonna be my 959 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: NFC East pick, and I'm gonna have the Eagle second 960 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: because I think the Cowboys can win eleven and twelve 961 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: games and I think the Eagles will win ten or 962 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: eleven two like, it's both. Those two teams were really good. 963 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: They went nine and seven. Last year. Zeke had to 964 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: go to Cabo for six weeks Cabo, he disappeared because 965 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: he got suspended. If Zeke doesn't miss those six games, 966 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: they are in the playoffs, which just simple. I mean 967 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 1: that they win ten or eleven games, they definitely are 968 00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He was that important. It means they're 969 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 1: best player. So I I view them not a sleeper pick. 970 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean you're picking a team that's made the playoffs 971 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: two years ago and obviously won the division. But yeah, 972 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: I think their roster is very talented, and I think 973 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 1: they just have blue chip game changing player, especially in offense. 974 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's feeling some heat. I think they're gonna be 975 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: good and I'm gonna pick them to win the division. 976 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,919 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it wouldn't shock me if the Eagles 977 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: won the division, but I think they're that good. I 978 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:31,439 Speaker 1: think there are division champion caliber team. Appreciate everyone listening. Again, 979 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: covered a lot today. Uh Middlecoff mailbag every week, slide 980 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: up in these reviews or slide up in my d 981 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: m s on Instagram at John Middlecoff. I'll be back. 982 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: Might have to start doing two of these because we 983 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 1: we got so much going on. I got I got 984 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: so many thoughts on just football stories coming out every day. 985 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: Right as I'm finishing it up, I was looking on 986 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: Twitter as I was talking, because I'm a millennial and 987 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 1: I can multitask. Antonio Brown just showed up to training 988 00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: camp in a helicopter one a legend incredible move. But 989 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: I'll see you next week. Thanks for listening to three 990 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: Now podcast on a Colin Coward podcast Network