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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh our eyes are just that bad though.

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Speaker 4: Dammit as your dentist in Costco. I know you love

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Speaker 3: the and they're always like doctor Rick, like anytime it's

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Speaker 2: Just wait, I'm sorry, I miss it. What are you

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Speaker 2: talking about? Costco? My wife used to like buy medical doctor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, her eye doctors, Daniel's eye doctors on like Ile

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Speaker 1: My eye doctors in the in Costco.

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Speaker 4: And Will was like, no, no, you are not allowed

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Speaker 2: No, there shouldn't be sick all outside your oil and

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Speaker 4: I try to do as many things at Costco as

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Speaker 4: I possibly can. They have vacations you can book, They've

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Speaker 2: Gosh, preparation. I just give everything over. Just why don't

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Speaker 1: Jillie, you can buy many ADUs. You could buy many

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Speaker 4: And the only downside is that they occasionally get rid

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Speaker 1: I'll get it next time, well, guess what you may

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Speaker 2: Store? Sport, you fill up, you get a storage unit

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Speaker 4: When we moved into this house, one of the things

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Speaker 4: need room to store seven hundred rolls of toilet paper,

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Speaker 4: paper towels. But guess what if you need kids medication,

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Speaker 4: you need and it's purchasable at Costco, melatonin, I'm never

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Speaker 3: The cool thing is they loaded into her car. She's

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like to No, is that wrong? Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: It just got so freaked down.

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Speaker 1: It's not like locks. It's not lots.

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Speaker 2: Can you give me a lock it up while you're

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Speaker 4: Got it? Yeah? I do not suggest theme at Costco.

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Speaker 4: It's the one thing I don't suggest, the fine when

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Speaker 4: you go for the pap it's not it's not as tasty.

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Speaker 2: Is that true? I actually don't know. Is it pap

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Speaker 2: I just don't say that word that often.

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Speaker 1: We don't say that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's right. It's not like something you.

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Speaker 4: Don't I'm shocked that two forty something year old men

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're after we're feeling good. Guys, we're

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Speaker 1: feeling great.

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Speaker 2: Break anybody else need to break?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to pod meets Schmear. I'm Danielle Fishl.

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Speaker 2: I'm right or strong. I'm Wilfordell.

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Speaker 1: So welcome to this episode.

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Speaker 4: Today we are recapping season four, episode twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Cult Fiction Way, We're here, We're here, We've arrived.

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Speaker 4: It originally aired April twenty fifth, nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: The synopsis is Sean joins a cult.

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Speaker 3: That was plus I literally wrote, that's only like Alan

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Speaker 2: Well, Eric, this is just there's no be story. There

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Speaker 4: It's literally just I mean it could say Sean joins

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is kind of the Bee story from one

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it, Okay, let's do Yeah to Day's

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Speaker 2: the day if you've ever wanted darted it. I was

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Speaker 4: Just by talking about the b storyline about all of

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Speaker 4: try to put this on me. How dare you You've

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Speaker 4: got the big opinion you stick with them, so anyway.

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Speaker 4: It was directed by Jeff McCracken. It was written by

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Speaker 4: Jeff Manel guest starring Jerry Levine as mister Phill Jerry Mac.

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Speaker 2: The Great Jerry Lewis, So is this his first episode

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Speaker 2: that he was on our tes It was so we

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Speaker 2: just knew him. He was around, right, because he's old

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Speaker 1: And I knew you would worked together with him, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And so I knew him, you know, And I of

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Speaker 2: And then he ended up directing ever a lot of

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Speaker 4: Best known to the world as Styles in the classic

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty five comedy Teen Wolf. He also appeared in

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Speaker 4: gone on to become a successful TV director. As writer mentioned,

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Speaker 4: Everybody hates Chris Hawaii five oh, and many others.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we have fond memories of Jerry. And then

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Speaker 4: Back for Girl Meets World, right, didn't he did? He

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't direct Girl Meets He didn't. I don't

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Speaker 1: Like I saw him a girl, But maybe I'm mistaken.

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Speaker 3: He is one of those genuinely good people, Like he

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Speaker 2: Teen wolf, Like hey, can we do? He's like sure

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Speaker 2: You you have a scene. I'll just give you the scene.

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Speaker 2: And that was exactly. And it was just one of

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Speaker 1: We love those conversations.

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Speaker 4: credits include the Brady Bunch movie, Tortilla Soup, and Psych

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Speaker 4: I want to get what, like, what does writer really

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually have. Yeah, let's start with that. Do that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: They said it was happening, and they said they wanted Rachel,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, you don't want to go to the

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Speaker 4: Overall thoughts on the episode, I actually really I really

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Speaker 4: I called you, I asked if you wanted to play basketball,

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, to be honest, I I don't know

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Speaker 1: We're going to take your parents are on vacant parents

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Speaker 4: starting to put I don't know that spent up timeline

441
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 4: was the most crazy thing to me.

442
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: That really just threw me the most.

443
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: And actually, now that you pointed out what's funny about

444
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: that is like the joke of Eric is how quickly

445
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 2: he gets Yet that's also exactly what happened to Sean.

446
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: So why is that funny?

447
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, exactly, So that's that was it, But that

448
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: was fine.

449
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: I felt the same way. The episode obviously is very

450
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: very melodramatic. Yeah, over the top, melodrama.

451
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: Uh there.

452
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: I also I don't And I was okay with this

453
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 3: because I understand that obviously they they really didn't have

454
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 3: the time to explain in any way, shape or form.

455
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 3: But we have no idea what the center is meaning.

456
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 3: There's no there's no philosophy behind it, so there's nothing.

457
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: It's just are you centered?

458
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: And hugging?

459
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: That's but we know we know what kind of it's

460
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: spelled center are e.

461
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: But it's like are they Canadian? What do they know?

462
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: What is it about? Like?

463
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 3: What what is other than are you centered? Here's some

464
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 3: hugs and don't judge me. That doesn't sound like a cult.

465
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: That just sounds like how you kind of want to

466
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: live your life. So I would like I would have

467
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: liked something, oh see, but something a little cultish whatever

468
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: or no, But like we all have the same time,

469
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: I mean, something to where it seemed like it was

470
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: nefarious or it was it was in some way negative

471
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 3: because other than Sean saying don't judge me and joining

472
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 3: the cult in a half an hour, it seemed like

473
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: a place for kids to hang out, you know what

474
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 3: I mean? It was like I would like to have

475
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 3: something weird where it's what maybe she says, you know, oh,

476
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: I moved in.

477
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 2: We all live here, Oh we don't see our parents.

478
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: So they kind of they allude to it a little

479
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: bit at the end where he's saying, yes, mister mac

480
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 3: told me you'd say that or that, so you can

481
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: tell he's kind of implanting things in their mind. But

482
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 3: I would like to have that ratcheted up just a

483
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: little bit to where it's like, oh, this place is

484
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: super dangerous.

485
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: But but but what I.

486
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: Love about it is if Colts did that, it would

487
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: be a lot harder for people to join cults. If

488
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 4: scary person is like I'm scary.

489
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: One of the best quotes is nobody joins a cult,

490
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: right right, Like nobody sets out to join a CRT.

491
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: What you join is a community business opportunity or a

492
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: community center that just allows you and then it eventually

493
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: works on.

494
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: One thing to where it's because it's Phoenie's been trying

495
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: to shut this place down, right, So maybe it's Bill

496
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: saying and so it's they don't show it, but maybe

497
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 3: it's it's Feoene saying like I've lost kids to this,

498
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: or they're known for blah blah blah something where it's

499
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: like this.

500
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: It's interesting they will because I wonder if that then

501
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: takes away the value of like, because I think in part,

502
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: what's what's what's cool about it is that we don't

503
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: we kind of don't need to know. Like the point

504
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: is that anything that draws you away from you know,

505
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: and isolates you and takes advantage of your feelings of

506
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: like being lost or like anything that is not great,

507
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: right and like, and we don't need to know the

508
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: particular philosophy or that's what I mean.

509
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 3: That's why I said, I'm trying to give us Okay,

510
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: I guess they didn't have the.

511
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: Time to show what the philosophy was. But I think

512
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: the problem is then it's so obviously negative to all

513
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: the characters that there's a little bit of like, well, why, like,

514
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, why is Phoene trying to shut this sound

515
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: so desperately? And it doesn't, It doesn't. We don't ever

516
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: really get to know why. We just know that the

517
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: alternative is is better, you know, God is better. Like,

518
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: we just know that that there's something about the center

519
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: that is anti right God right, and that that's the problem,

520
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: But we don't actually hear the center of express and yeah,

521
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: and I think so in a weird way of like

522
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: if it had stayed neutral on both sides, Like if

523
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: you had just sort of been like, there's a problem

524
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: with the center, and it's not pitted against our religion,

525
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: it's just pitted against healthy living and like our community

526
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: and our community. But instead it's very actively pitted against

527
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: God's religion, you know, religion and and and when we

528
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: haven't heard that it's anti religious to begin with, that's

529
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: feels like, well, what is it? Or it's another religion? Yeah,

530
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean yeah.

531
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 4: I think you know, we growing up in LA we

532
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: are very familiar with scientology, and I think this was

533
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 4: I think this was written.

534
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: Is that you think it was? You think that I did.

535
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: It's a direct reference to the Celebrity Celebrity Celebrity Center,

536
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 4: Celebrity Center. It's called the Celebrity Center, and I think

537
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 4: it's you know, for our writers, it was a very

538
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: odd to them. It was so such an obvious nod

539
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: to scientology, where you know, you when you go into scientology.

540
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: From what I've heard, I don't. I've never been to scientology.

541
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: I've never had anything to do with scientology. But from

542
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 4: what I've heard, it starts off with stuff that is

543
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 4: very self self helpful, and you feel very good when

544
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 4: you start going and you feel like, wow, there's some

545
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 4: really good tools here. But that's how they get you.

546
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: They start with you know the aliens are coming for you.

547
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: They start with actual, real tools that could help most people.

548
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: And so I think this was a very direct like

549
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 4: you know people who there are either people who are

550
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 4: in scientology and love it, or there are people who

551
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 4: are not in scientology who go, oh, I don't know

552
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 4: exactly with their philosophy.

553
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: Is, but I know it's not good.

554
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, or it's not for me.

555
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: It's not for me. It's it's not for me, and

556
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 4: it's not good and I don't want to be a

557
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 4: part of it. And this was the warning to all

558
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 4: the people who were like, well, I'm open to anything,

559
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 4: just tell me more. And Sean is the I'm floating

560
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 4: between things, and whoever can sink their hooks into me,

561
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: I'm willing to go that.

562
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: Direction really quickly. In an hour, one hour.

563
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: Give me the.

564
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: Brochure and I'm in. I don't even need to read

565
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: the book, just the leaflet and I'm down.

566
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 4: Just bring me a pretty girl. We don't even need

567
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: to kiss anymore. I could just hold your hand and

568
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: hug you, and I'm in sour salt.

569
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: Oh. I was also thinking the entire time.

570
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: The funny thing is is because, especially back in the day,

571
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: Writer such a hugger.

572
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: I know, I thought that is hilarious, will that you

573
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: said that?

574
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: Because the minute I saw Writer giving very writer hugs

575
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 4: on screen, I was like, that's such a that was

576
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: so right, and it's a big bear hug.

577
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: He gives great hugs and you can yeah, totally fell funny, guy,

578
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: that is so funny.

579
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny because when I was watching it,

580
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: all I felt was like, Corey is harsh. When he

581
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: pushed on, like away from it, I was like, why

582
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: don't we hug a lot? I was like, didn't we

583
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: hug all the time on this show? I was like,

584
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, I guess maybe just

585
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: in real life.

586
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, just that's very funny, not on the screen. I

587
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 4: actually did think the same thing Writer. When I saw

588
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 4: him do it, I thought, what have we never seen

589
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: them hug?

590
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 3: Like?

591
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: I was a little thrown off by it.

592
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: Also, this is this is they've set this up now

593
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: to where they are the ultimate romance and it was

594
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: a straight up homophobic moment, which was weird, I know,

595
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: very jarring.

596
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: Well, it begins with when the guy hugs me at

597
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: the center, and I'm like, okay, yeah, okay, I didn't

598
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: have a problem.

599
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember there. Who did he actually say football company?

600
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: Because that one didn't bother me as much because you

601
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: don't know this guy, he's.

602
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: A stranger gives me, but I don't say it with

603
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: the girls. Well, girls hugging me is fine. They're also

604
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 2: your age though, but that's what But it's not of

605
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: course that's there. Now got a guy girl giving.

606
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: You a hug.

607
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: That's not gonna Also, she's not a stranger apparently, well

608
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: the other the other girls are, but Sherry is apparently

609
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: a long term girlfriend that we just meet right now.

610
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: She's also a lurker. By the way, we'll get into that.

611
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 4: I saw that a let's jump into the recap. We

612
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: start in Turner's classroom.

613
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: I've not given over so sorry.

614
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: No. First of all, Danielle, I can't believe that, you know,

615
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: I did.

616
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: I really thought it was.

617
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: Over dramatic thing. I've everyone like, oh my god, there's

618
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: never been I mean, so far in boy meets world,

619
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: we have not achieved this to me, this level of

620
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: like intensity and commitment to melodrama, and I think it's

621
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: like crazy making like it's bizarre, and it really reached

622
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: heights of like I mean, I I think we just

623
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: become a soap opera and the and you know, the

624
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: the drama aside the actual like upheaval in hospitals and

625
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: da da da da, and they're just there's not that

626
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: many lasts. It's how funny of an episode is not

627
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: And that was a bummer to me. I was like,

628
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: where's the because when I think about the abuse episode,

629
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 2: which could be sort of lumped in the same category

630
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: as a very special episode, it was genuinely funny and

631
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: nuanced and had all these angles that and this is

632
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: this is just not nearly successful in my opinion, Like

633
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: this is so far in the you know, pushing then

634
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 2: the soap operatics to an extreme that like I was

635
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: like wow. And then of course my performance is just

636
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: so committed in that way. I mean it's bonkers, Like

637
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: you know that I have a monologue where I'm like

638
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: full on losing that and it's like it's just it's

639
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: it was really really hard for me to watch like

640
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: really painful for me to watch like that was. I

641
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: was so uncomfortable with it. I mean, you know, in

642
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: some ways, I'm like, great, go for it, you know,

643
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: do it right, or like, oh I.

644
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Thought the performance was really good? Do I think?

645
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: Do I think the storyline itself is very over the top? Yes,

646
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: But performance wise with what the words are that you're saying.

647
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine a better performance for you to give. I.

648
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: So, if I'm gonna if I'm going to feel negatively

649
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: about the soap opera aspect of it, it's because, yeah,

650
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: we decided to do a soap opera episode, which, honestly,

651
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 4: I am not opposed to doing an episode where a

652
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: beloved figure in someone's life possibly dies.

653
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, go for it, do an

654
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: episode like that.

655
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: I I love the idea truthfully, that Turner is in

656
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 4: a car accident and you have to come to terms

657
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: with potentially losing someone that you have definitely taken for granted.

658
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: You know you've this is anybody else.

659
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: This is a terrible thing to ask, but I'm going

660
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: because I was thinking it throughout the episode.

661
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: Does anybody else think Turner should have died?

662
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 5: Wow?

663
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean in a way you kind of did.

664
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it's his last episode. They know it's his

665
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: last episode. It's a kid sitcom. I don't know how

666
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: often that's been done. It could have been very powerful.

667
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: Part of me sitting there was like a man, if

668
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: he's not coming back anyway, there's a power to actually

669
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: killing off the care.

670
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 4: Well, we have the ability of hindsight to know he's

671
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: not coming back. But I don't think they would have

672
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: wanted to.

673
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: They won't.

674
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: They don't want to do that.

675
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: They want to be able to have the opportunity to

676
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: have him bring back if it suits there.

677
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: I mean they also wanted Sean to have the assurance

678
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: that he's okay, right at the end of the day, right,

679
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: I mean that is that like, well, it's because you

680
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: talked like knowledge transcendent knowledge of like I've read.

681
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: Answer you you you taught you had a relationship with God.

682
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 3: You found your relationship with God, and God answered you.

683
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: That's what that is.

684
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: Through a hand squeeze, through a hand squeze.

685
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, do we Yeah, all right, I'll save

686
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: my thoughts on that subject.

687
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, all right, So we are in Turner's classroom,

688
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: short haired audition going job.

689
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: Searching, no earring either earring. This short haired Turner.

690
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: She is a whole different person. I barely recognize him.

691
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: Mister Turner is handing back work to his students, complimenting

692
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: everyone on doing well well except for Sean.

693
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: He did bad.

694
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 4: The bell rings, and as Sean tries to leave, Turner

695
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: stops him. He sternly reminds Sean he's a junior in

696
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: high school with apparently no goals. Sean defends himself he's

697
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: going to college in Hawaii because he figures he'll have

698
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: a better shot outside the country. I like that Joe

699
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: Turner doesn't budge the people who care about you in

700
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: this life. You can count on on one hand, so

701
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: don't blow me off. And I also thought, well, what,

702
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: I'm sorry?

703
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: What happened that there's a.

704
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: Couple of those in this scene because the other one

705
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 3: is he's talking to Corey and Tapanga says something and

706
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: turn around and nowhere goes whoa, whoa, whoa.

707
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: It's like, what, whoa wha? What what are you? Whoaing?

708
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: Like what just happen? I know?

709
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 4: I feel like I And again I think maybe the

710
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: the if there had been a little bit of a

711
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 4: seed planted that Sean's currently struggling. Any you know, this

712
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: would be a good spot with anything other than struggling.

713
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: It's true, didn't you always true? But yeah, what else

714
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: is new? Sean scoffs, I got people who care about me. Corey,

715
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 4: who stayed back with Topanga, joins in on the conversation.

716
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: Turner might be right.

717
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 4: They only have one year left in high school and

718
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: the humidity in Hawaii is going to make his hair

719
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 4: get very Poofyga says she wants to go to Penn State,

720
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 4: but real college, Penn State, and Corey announces he wants

721
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: to go wherever she.

722
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: Goes, So go to Yale corl what There's plenty of

723
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: other colleges within the like miles of.

724
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: The drawn Lessons of Yale.

725
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 2: Why are you out of schools in Connecticut? We don't

726
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: have much, but we do have lots of schools. So

727
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: there you go, right, I mean, I mean anywhere I know.

728
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: Don't get me started. Let's not even go there. This

729
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 4: is about you today, writer, But have you really?

730
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: But I was really intrigued by the Corey Topanga relationship

731
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: in this scene. I was like, Oh, we're like the

732
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: horn dog. Yeahs like you guys are take it out

733
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: and like you do like a late like did you

734
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: notice that? Like as you're leaving, I was like, whoa

735
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: this is?

736
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: I know, I don't know what's going on over there,

737
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 4: but they are having a good time.

738
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

739
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, so uh, he jokingly asks, is anyone surprised by that?

740
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: Turner tells Sean the clock is ticking. Sean reminds John

741
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: he's not his guardian anymore. He's back with his parents,

742
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: so he'll be fine. Turner argues, your parents are busy

743
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 4: trying to work out their marriage, and then he points

744
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: to Corey into Panga, so are they. Corey and Topanga

745
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 4: have a little lovey dovey moment about making out in

746
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: the library, and then I do a weird lip thing

747
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: and we walk out.

748
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: I think it's to show that Sean really doesn't think

749
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: he has much, Like Corey's got the panga right, and

750
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: so Sean doesn't really.

751
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: Have much in his life. Yeah, I think that's probably

752
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: the plan. I noticed it very This is like so insider,

753
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's conscious, but like in this scene,

754
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: for one of the first times I actually I keep

755
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: my back to the camera. I noticed that I didn't notice,

756
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: and I do it multiple times in this epiend.

757
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: When you turn your back.

758
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: I love that you noticed it, because isn't it. I

759
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: think it's a directorial thing that you noticed it, Daniel,

760
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: because it is. I never you never do that. You

761
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: just don't turn you to the cameras. Yeah, and I'm

762
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: doing it multiple times in this episode, and I've never

763
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: done it before. Some once I saw it, I was like, WHOA,

764
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: what's weird about this? And I think it's kind of

765
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: crazy because I think it's Sean turning his back on

766
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: people and like Sean avoiding being open and not being

767
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: and it's like this weird and I don't know if

768
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there was a conversation me and Jeff McCracken.

769
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it really is effective. You can

770
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: see the way I'm like, it's not just turned away

771
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: from Sean, but I'm closing off from Turner. But I'm

772
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: closing off. And I was like, oh, oh that was

773
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: it was like I saw in this scene and then

774
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: I did it later and I was like, that's.

775
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Kind of I know.

776
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 4: I just got chills talking about it because I know too,

777
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 4: so funny. So Turner now alone with Sean, or so

778
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 4: he thinks, continues, Sean has had security these past four years,

779
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 4: but that's.

780
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Thrown out next year. What is Sean going to do?

781
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: Then?

782
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: Who will he be? And then we noticed two things.

783
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: A new girl outside of the classroom listening in on

784
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: their conversation. You're like a worker like.

785
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 2: One of these things from the back of the door,

786
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: and it's like, what do you what do you think?

787
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: I was like, what is that person doing it?

788
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: You?

789
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: And then another thing I noticed is that the light

790
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: switch in this classroom doesn't have a three D plate.

791
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: What it's just a painted rectangle?

792
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: Is it? So?

793
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: There are three switches? Are actual threes functional switches? But

794
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 4: then there is no plate on the wall. It's just

795
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: with green paint. They painted a rectangle to give the

796
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 4: appearance of a light switch plate.

797
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: And I was completely obsessed with that. I was like, pause,

798
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: is that?

799
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: Wow? Is that you could not do that in the

800
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: world of HD that is?

801
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 4: And I was like that I don't think it is,

802
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: because first of all, a light switch plate wouldn't have

803
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: dark colored edges at but there's dark.

804
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: Doesn't painting a square cost more than a light switch?

805
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: Listen? Like asking the wrong person.

806
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: Seventy nine cents for a light switch plate to.

807
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: In Philadelphia have a very small light switch plate budget?

808
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: Any sense that is? I really want to see it.

809
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: That's it's very odd.

810
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: I was.

811
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: I was completely obsessed with it.

812
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone else in the universe cares, but

813
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: I noticed it, and I had to bring it up.

814
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: I just wanted you guys.

815
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 4: To notice that I noticed the lurker and the lights.

816
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: As Turner walks out this mysterious cutie, we learn her

817
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 4: name is Sherry.

818
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: She approaches Sean. She admits that Turner did a number

819
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: on Sean.

820
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 4: Only a few people care about him, she sh Cherry says,

821
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 4: I must have a hundred people who care about me

822
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: and care enough about me not to judge me like

823
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: that in front of everybody.

824
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: Who's everybody Corey and Jamaica.

825
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's people else was in the classroom.

826
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean's size was pretty embarrassing.

827
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 4: Cherry asks Sean out for coffee she's buying, and she

828
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: promises not to judge him. Sean happily agrees, and maybe

829
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: there's a new potential love interest.

830
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: And then well, yeah, because we're holding it.

831
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: I was just gonn.

832
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: We're in the Center, which is kind of a new

833
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: set alert, but boy, it really does feel a lot

834
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: like if Chubby's had a basement.

835
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way her walking in and being like,

836
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 2: I can't believe he did that to you.

837
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: That's so embarrassing. But it's a straight judgment of Turner,

838
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: so she's already she's already judgingbody else coming in for

839
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: the rest. So I don't know about this center and

840
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: what they stand for.

841
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Well, Ari Center.

842
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 4: Ari.

843
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Cherry introduces the Central to Shane.

844
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: I wish there was just a bridge between like, oh,

845
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 2: maybe this girl likes me and to like like full

846
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: on holding hands walking in like I just want I

847
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: don't know, like one beat, maybe at the end of

848
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: the last thing where like she grabs my hand and

849
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: leads me out and I'm like okay or something. But

850
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: it just felt like, oh, we're like together together or something.

851
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I was like, I'm sorry, did I

852
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: miss something? Am I supposed to know who this person is?

853
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: It's it seems very odd.

854
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: In general, this should have been a two part right, Yep,

855
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: it should have.

856
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: So Sherry introduces the Center to Sean and we immediately

857
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: see video games, pinball, a foosball table and a sign

858
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 4: that says serenity and there is no O. J.

859
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: Simpson jersey and a big sign that says, I look

860
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: candy and serenity. Like what a better way to say?

861
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: Like evil cult for kids. It's taken them in, it

862
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: gives them, it offers serenity, and that's it you got.

863
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: And then another one just says change. I thought it

864
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: was another candy sign, but it's a change a change machine,

865
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: candy candy. It's so perfect.

866
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: The serenity is seventy five.

867
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: This place is ridiculous.

868
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: There are a lot of other high school aged kids

869
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: who when they see Sherry stand up and say her

870
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: name in creepy unison to greet her. Then they do

871
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: the same unnerving hello with Sean. They walk up to

872
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 4: Sean for a hug, one at a time. He's a

873
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 4: little weird, A doubt everyone knows my name. That's either

874
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: really cool or really creepy. As they walk away, Sherry responds,

875
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: you have a sense of humor.

876
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: I like that.

877
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 4: Sean points out that she's not laughing, and she robotically

878
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: responds laughter is a mask which denies the reality of

879
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 4: a situation and reveals nervousness. To this Sean laughs nervously to.

880
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Change the subject.

881
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 4: Sean asks if there'll be a band or a DJ

882
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: for music, and Sherry explains it's not that kind of

883
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: a club. It's more of a hangout where she and

884
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: her friends get together to talk about stuff. Sean's surprised.

885
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: They're all your friends. Cherry nods, yep, and they can

886
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 4: be yours too if you want. Sean's happy, he could

887
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: always use more friends, but he admits he's not too

888
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 4: comfortable with the hugging thing, which is the first I've

889
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: heard about that.

890
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: First we know about that. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean

891
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: nineties East Coast dude burnagers probably didn't hug that much.

892
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: We hugged. I mean, we hope, but we would hug.

893
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, not strange man, that way you came.

894
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: But I mean, but when you came to La you

895
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: weren't like, Wow, it's a touchy feely place. I feel

896
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: like that's the bomb.

897
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: But I remember the first time my brother came out

898
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: to visit Gary and he saw he was there for

899
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: the first time, and we were rehearsing and we finished

900
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: for the day and we're like, all right, see you tomorrow.

901
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: Hug everybody's hugging, and he was like, aren't you guys

902
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: seeing each other tomorrow? Is there a vacation? No, And

903
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: he's like, what the hell are you hugging for?

904
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: I told you I had not been in I had

905
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: not been working in entertainment for many years by the

906
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 4: time Girl Meets World had come around, and all of

907
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: a sudden we came. We did Girl Meets World. At

908
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 4: the end of the taping, everybody was hugging. It was like, Okay,

909
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: I was a great taping. We're celebrating the taping. And

910
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: then not eight hours later were we there at the

911
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 4: table reading everybody was hugging me again, And.

912
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: I was like, eight hours ago, I don't need to

913
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: hug you again. Just say hello and keep moving.

914
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it is very touchy feeling.

915
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: It's very touchy feely here. So anyway, Sherry excitedly explains.

916
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: Mister Max says that a hug is a burst of

917
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: pure love. Sean flirtatiously leans in for a hug. Then

918
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: I'm bursting with pure love right now, and this apparently

919
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 4: new couple appears to get even closer. Sean asks who

920
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: mister Mac is, and Sherry says, he runs the center

921
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: on cue A middle aged man in a suit walks

922
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: into the room and hugs everyone. Cherry calls mister Mac

923
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 4: the most remarkable human being she's ever met.

924
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: He changed her life.

925
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 4: Then the man himself, mister Mack, says hello to Sherry

926
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: with one of these hugs and asks, are you centered?

927
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: She enthusiastically responds, I'm centered, mister Mac, and I thought

928
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: the same thing writer with the blocking she's hugging him

929
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: on the other side, so we also can't even see

930
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: her face when she hugs him, and she says I'm centered.

931
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 4: We just hear what she says, but we don't see

932
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: her face. Now, granted we see you, but even we

933
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 4: don't see her. Mister Mac, Derex's attention to Sean. Now,

934
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 4: are you centered? Sean let's out an awkward laugh. Nope,

935
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm totally off center. Mister Max says they'll have to

936
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 4: see what they can do about that. Sewn wishes him

937
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 4: good luck with that and asks if he's mister Mac.

938
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: Mister Mack is guilty as charged. Right as he opens

939
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 4: up asoda for Sean, which is some impressive soda business.

940
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Just handing him the soda too.

941
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: It's like, wait, a second soda opened I'm in, I've

942
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: got I'm part of this cult now, my friend, I've

943
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: been here twenty minutes.

944
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: I am in cold beverage hugging.

945
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: Sean remarks, it's a nice place.

946
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: You got here, a little touchy feely at first, but

947
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: it's growing on him. Mister Mac explains, it just goes

948
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: to show you, Sean, you can't always go with your

949
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: first instincts, Sean, You've got to give people a chance.

950
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: Sean, Sean, we.

951
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: Were really hitting that hard, like I was.

952
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he will least pointed out.

953
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: I'm thankfully your next line is, like Sean tells mister Mack,

954
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: he seems to really like his name, mister Mac, who

955
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: apparently has no need to explain the name thing because

956
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 4: he doesn't.

957
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't say why he does it or nothing.

958
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: I like that they kept Sean's street wisdom here where

959
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: he's there for only a couple seconds before he's like,

960
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: oh it's a cult. Yeah, like that worked, or it's

961
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: like okay that And that's exactly how I feel you

962
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 3: feel Sean would be if he walked into this.

963
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: And I love that he's confident enough to point it

964
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: to not just go with it, to not just think it,

965
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 4: but he actually says it out loud, like, listen, I

966
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: think you guys are a little touchy feely, and I

967
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: notice you're saying my name a lot like.

968
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I love that he's calling all of it out. It

969
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: just goes away.

970
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: Turns real fast, very quickly.

971
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 4: So mister Mac tells him there's plenty of room here

972
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: if Sean would like to move in. WHOA, what are

973
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 4: you nuts? He says, Sherry butts in. This is where

974
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: she lives, It's where all of them live. Everyone around

975
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 4: nods in agreement. Sean says he understands what's happening here.

976
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: It's a cult. And then mister Mac let's out a

977
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: let's out a small chuckle, and all the others laugh

978
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: with him, and there's just yes laughter, masks reality and

979
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: shows nervousness.

980
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: Yep, so they are showing their.

981
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: Showing their nervousness and showing their vulnerability, which I thought

982
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: was Mister Mac walks over to his followers and tells

983
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 4: Sean they're a place for people who need love in

984
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 4: their lives. Sean tells him he already has plenty of love,

985
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 4: but thanks him for the offer. Either way, mister Mac

986
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 4: might be a little offended. He accuses Sean of judging

987
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: them the way everyone else in your life judges you.

988
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: Sewan admits he doesn't like when those people do that

989
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: because they don't really know him. Mister mack nods with empathy,

990
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 4: Sean should really get to know the people at the

991
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 4: center before he judges them. If he does that for them,

992
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: they'll do the same for him. Sean acknowledges, well, that's

993
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: only fair. And then we go to Chebby's, which Marke.

994
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: We talk about the music cue at the end of.

995
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: The seoint we didn't notice something.

996
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: It's so jarring. No, no, it was like, man, it

997
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: was just like so like whoa, Oh my god, it's

998
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: it was so jarring. I was like, whoa, because it's

999
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's actually a very that ending be

1000
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: I really like, like, I think that that makes sense,

1001
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: Like that's a good argument, like don't judge us, you'll

1002
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: be open minded. Like that's the kind of thing that

1003
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: totally would convince Sean, you know, to because he's sick

1004
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: of being judged and I love that. Yeah. So it's

1005
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: also I was thinking, well, just listening to you recap,

1006
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: how much of this you're writing for children, right, or

1007
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: teenagers or children to watch this. They have to be

1008
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: able to know that it's a cult ahead of time,

1009
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: like they should be able to feel creeped out, right.

1010
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: So it's a really interesting line to have it be

1011
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: convincing enough to get Sean, somebody that we presumably love

1012
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: and you know, so identify with, to be convinced, but

1013
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 2: then also like let the audience know like this is bad,

1014
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: this is crapy, there's wrong things here. It's a delicate

1015
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: balancing act. I think they did it.

1016
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 3: I think everyone saying the names together like hi should

1017
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 3: ways to show people.

1018
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: Right, and her being sort of robotic and like no

1019
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: we laughter is that's like the off putting parts that

1020
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: you have to insert to make you like the alarm

1021
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: bells go off for everybody watching, right, And I actually

1022
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: think why, like why not just go for it being awesome?

1023
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: I know what I mean, Like, like why couldn't it

1024
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: just be like the greatest place ever for Sean? And

1025
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: then like that's enough, because then I think the audience

1026
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: would have been a little bit more complicated about like wait,

1027
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: mister Max a bad guy. But as it is, it's

1028
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: like it's all set up here so we know like

1029
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: with the second Feenie's like I've had it for that guy.

1030
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: We're like, yeah, I knew that guy was creepy, but

1031
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: imagine if you didn't imagine if you just made it

1032
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: the coolest place on her.

1033
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: Well, they definitely did not want this episode to end

1034
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: up where a lot of the Eric episodes ended up,

1035
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 4: which was with people like me going, wait a minute,

1036
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: let him be with the lady in the two small

1037
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 4: yogurt cup town.

1038
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, let him date the woman with the kid.

1039
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't understand.

1040
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: They didn't want to take any chances that Danielle was

1041
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: going to go. I think Sean should join the go.

1042
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: We should take you what this is a great right

1043
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: for Sean. The scener is amazing.

1044
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: They didn't want that, so they they didn't want there

1045
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: to be This is not one of those times when

1046
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 4: the writers were willing to say the world is gray,

1047
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 4: and you have to figure out what your beliefs are,

1048
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 4: and and sometime two really good people could have totally

1049
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 4: different beliefs and it doesn't make either of them bad

1050
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: or good, or right or wrong.

1051
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: Not in this episode, is anybody else.

1052
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: Think it was?

1053
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 3: It was predicting the future a little bit that somebody

1054
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: with the last name Mac was bringing people into a cult.

1055
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: Anybody else picked that up? Oh, I didn't know Mac.

1056
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

1057
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: What Alison Mack Oh that was in my head.

1058
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just kind of like, hey, predicting the

1059
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: future a little bit there.

1060
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: Well, what I think, Like I remember somewhere like reading

1061
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: something that was like mocking this episode in the context

1062
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: of like, you know, all those cults that were a

1063
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: problem back in the nineties, like a very special episode

1064
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: about cults made kind of very little sense. But actually

1065
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: now it's turned out to be pretty precious. Like that's

1066
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: actually you know, colts cult thinking and the idea of

1067
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: like a group that sort of you know, uh, insinuates

1068
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: itself into your life and gives you ideas and like

1069
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: creates a sense of community that people you know, lost

1070
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: feeling a little like out of place, are gravitating. That's

1071
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: turned out to be very important, Like it happens a

1072
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: lot nowadays increasingly, you know, and like it is interesting

1073
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: that like now I feel like there was a moment

1074
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: when cults were everything, like seventies and eight sixties through

1075
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: like like eighties, there was this kind of fear of

1076
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: cults and conversations about cults and and then throughout the

1077
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 2: nineties there kind of was right, it was dare yeah right.

1078
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: But now it's you know, become something that we're investigating

1079
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: kind of all the time now because there's so many

1080
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: different forms of curls.

1081
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: It is not always just religious, it's you know, also,

1082
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: I hate to say this, but like my favorite documentaries,

1083
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 3: if it's a cult documentary, I am.

1084
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so in I know, book line, that's my cult.

1085
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: I want to join a cult just for the routine.

1086
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: I love the idea of you just telling me where

1087
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 4: to go, where to be, what to eat, And in

1088
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 4: my gut, I love that.

1089
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: Do we have a set time to wake up, a

1090
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: set time to go to bed time?

1091
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 3: In the problem is when you watch the entire documentary,

1092
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: it usually ends with branding and weird sex.

1093
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: So probably not not just the routine, Danielle, it's the

1094
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: other stuff.

1095
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: Is it weird sex scheduled every Monday.

1096
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 2: Like a routine. But you know, you always if you

1097
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: if you go to like what whatever awful thing a

1098
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: group of people do, like, whether that's branding or like

1099
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: interesting sex rituals are like polyamorous whatever, it's always like

1100
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: they did what how could they be convinced? And then

1101
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: of course what's so great about the documentaries is going

1102
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: back and seeing how simple it always starts. You know,

1103
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: it always is so basic, and people are are attracted

1104
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: to very obvious things charisma, very oversimplifying the world into

1105
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: like basic things. And then you know why, as we

1106
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: see with scientology and with nexium, like Americans are so

1107
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: susceptible to like get rich, self healthy sort of vibes

1108
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 2: that like that works.

1109
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: The writer does want to start a cult for all

1110
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: intents and purposes where communities of people live on large

1111
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 4: plots of land when we as we aim communes.

1112
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: A well, I'm obsessed with alternative living situations, like that's

1113
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: always something. But where where where intentional communities? And the

1114
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: term is now because you got rid of communes, intentional community.

1115
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: Writers writers, cult sounds right at my alleys.

1116
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, like, you know, it's like you

1117
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: can't say any of this without it going right to

1118
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: let's mock it, let's make a joke out of it's

1119
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: a cult or it's a thing, and it's like, right,

1120
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by the gray area with all of this,

1121
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: and I think that that's partly why America was founded

1122
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: and why America is so great is that we can't

1123
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: pursue alternative things.

1124
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: And yes, I think most of the you know, the

1125
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: alternative living is one thing. I think what most of

1126
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 3: the quote unquote cults have in common is a leader

1127
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: who supposed to transcend human existence. That's where it's like,

1128
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 3: you know, you get an like vanguard. It's like, really, come.

1129
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 5: On right strong exactly he'd have they come up with it.

1130
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 5: Oh you mean the light like they just call him

1131
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 5: something like that. Yeah, the King, the King. Yes, m

1132
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 5: I'll help you start a cult. It'll be great.

1133
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm joking that it's not a cult, but it's

1134
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: it's so smart. It's true his idea. And I mean,

1135
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: I'm one of these people, which is why I think

1136
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 4: it's really smart, is that I'm one of these people

1137
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 4: who's like, please, I like having friends as long as

1138
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 4: I never have to see them or.

1139
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: Talk to them.

1140
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 4: And and writer is like, that's not what we're supposed

1141
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: to be doing. We isolate ourselves as we get old,

1142
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: and then when we need help and we need community,

1143
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 4: we actually should be in places where we could help

1144
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 4: each other. Also with kids, the idea of living in

1145
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 4: a place where trusted adults, people I knew who had

1146
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: like minded ideas around child rearing, educate kids and raise

1147
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 4: kids and give them freedoms and all that stuff. I actually,

1148
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 4: I'm super on board with writer's idea. I'll never do

1149
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: it because I'm going to completely isolate myself.

1150
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: And now I think it's really I think it's super important.

1151
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: I think that the American twentieth century idea of family

1152
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: is pretty backwards, yes, And I think that we are

1153
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: so inculturated that we are buying into that cult. I

1154
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: think it's really unhealthy, like the cult of individualism in America,

1155
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: which has driven us to isolate as nuclear families, even

1156
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: isolate from our own parents. You know the fact that

1157
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: like we move out from our parents and leave, drive

1158
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 2: across and live across the country or wherever, and then like,

1159
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: wonder why we have a lack of community, Wonder why

1160
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: we don't feel fulfilled, And you know, I think it's

1161
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: really dangerous. And of course the Internet has rushed in

1162
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: to fill that void, but I don't think it's working.

1163
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, So I mean, I'm really I'm always investigating

1164
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: this stuff, and I'm pretty serious about it. As I

1165
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 2: get older, Like, you know, we're tribal. We're tribal creatures,

1166
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: that's what we are. So we need fams, we need tribes. Like,

1167
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: but how do you drew that without you know, creating

1168
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: an authority area and or cult like system. That's awful,

1169
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: Like that's that's a quest.

1170
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 3: Example is something like senior living. You know, that's when

1171
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: I hit fifty, I'm moving in.

1172
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: I want to move into one of those places.

1173
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: By the way, it's like a year from now, so

1174
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 3: that I want to be, you know, with everybody.

1175
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: Eats together and you you had the retirement communities, that's right,

1176
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: and retirement communities have gotten like really interesting. Like now

1177
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: there's so many different types of retirement communities that you

1178
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: can kind of find, you know what I'm talking about,

1179
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: and within that's what I mean.

1180
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: It's an word example that I can't wait to be

1181
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 3: in a leisure living situation.

1182
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the pod meets World retirement home.

1183
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's great idea.

1184
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: I love it. All Right, we have to jump back

1185
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: into our recod.

1186
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 4: I love you both, but I've got a real cult

1187
00:56:49,120 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: to talk about. So Sean is studying with some other

1188
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 4: attractive members of the cult. When Corey walks up, Sean

1189
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: jumps up to give him a huge hug, and Corey

1190
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 4: pushes him off.

1191
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: What the heck are you doing? Sean explains he's just

1192
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: saying hello.

1193
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: Corey's a little shaken up and asks him to never

1194
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 4: say hello again like that, which is a little harsh.

1195
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1196
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: Sean asks if Corey.

1197
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: Is centered, and then Corey, noticing the three pretty girls,

1198
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: jokes obviously, not like you. Sean explains that they're from

1199
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: the Center and they're helping him study. Sean explains in

1200
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: a very sincere way, he likes the Center.

1201
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: A lot Corey.

1202
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: Corey is concerned and asks the three girls to excuse them.

1203
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: Once alone, Corey asks what the Center is. Sewan immediately

1204
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 4: blurts out it's not a cult. Corey is now suspicious,

1205
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 4: but Sean tells him not to judge. Corey thinks Sean

1206
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 4: is talking crazy. He was only at the Center for

1207
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: about an hour, which is a valid point.

1208
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, Sean responds.

1209
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 4: The length of a journey has nothing to do with

1210
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 4: its ultimate value. Corey gives a worried smile.

1211
00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: And I've already memorized you. Yeah, that's yeah, I didn't

1212
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: like this scene. I really hated this scene, and like

1213
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: now I'm kind of realizing why. Like I thought it

1214
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: was just I felt myself being uncomfortable with all this

1215
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: like cult argument speak. It just felt phony. And this

1216
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: is why it's phoney, because it's been so quickly.

1217
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: You're in the same shirt exactly the same scene, in

1218
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 3: different wardrobe, and say if the first line say there

1219
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: you are shot.

1220
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 4: I haven't seen you in weeks exactly even just a week,

1221
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 4: like where you know for now for the entire time

1222
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: your parents have been on vacation, but you know, yeah,

1223
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: you're right, and that they couldn't really do that because

1224
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 4: then the Matthews would be like, you're we're watching you.

1225
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: You can't be spending the night somewhere else. They wouldn't

1226
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 4: have ever allowed that.

1227
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 2: But or rewrite this scene. So Sean just does one

1228
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: or two things that are really off and out of

1229
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: character and can't explain it yet. Isn't like because when

1230
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: I start dropping center speak right, it's like so over

1231
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: the top, it's so like whoa you know? And I

1232
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: think it could have been more sophisticated because like the

1233
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: next scene with Turner, I feel like Sewan is giving

1234
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: more clever arguments and like he's not relying on like

1235
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: Babbel like the same way that he is in this scene.

1236
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, this scene could have used to read it.

1237
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, Corey gives a worried smile and a that's nice,

1238
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 4: which is a straight Michael Jacobs rereet Yep. He tells

1239
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 4: Sean that throughout their entire friendship, they've talked about everything,

1240
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 4: but they've never talked about what Sean believes in. Sean

1241
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 4: proudly states, I believe that I finally found a place

1242
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: where people let me be who I am without trying

1243
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: to change me. Sean fires back, what do you believe in?

1244
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: Corey?

1245
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: Do you believe in a mother and a father in

1246
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: a comfortable house on a comfortable street, because that's what

1247
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: you have. Sean doesn't have that, so he found one

1248
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: with these people instead. And I just want to point

1249
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 4: out that this feels like a weird thing that now

1250
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 4: that we're supposed to believe he is other than this

1251
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 4: week that his parents are on vacation. He is back

1252
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 4: with his family. He fought so hard for that, he

1253
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 4: wanted it so badly. He's now back with his mom

1254
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: and his dad. Had they set the that Verna had

1255
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 4: already left, that Chet was back to being out of

1256
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 4: his life where it wasn't that his parents were on vacation,

1257
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 4: that he was kind of alone.

1258
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: Gosh, that would have been such an easy thing. And

1259
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: if the first scene when Turner was like asking about

1260
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: the homework or bad grades on the homework, he was like,

1261
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: I know your parents have been out of town for

1262
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: the last two months, you know, like like, basically we

1263
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: established that Sean is essentially alone again, and Turner's trying

1264
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: to help him, not just judging him, but trying to

1265
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: help him through a difficult time because his mom left

1266
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: again or.

1267
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 4: Sean didn't tell anybody that Verna and Chet and we

1268
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 4: find out again and he's been living alone at the

1269
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: trailer by himself.

1270
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: Because throughout the entire series, right now, we are arguably

1271
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: finding Sean at his least vulnerable, right right exactly, I

1272
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 3: mean that's this this season. It's his family's back together,

1273
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: more established, and it's so it's a strange time to

1274
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: now he hasn't found himself.

1275
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: I would have loved a big room feel that you know,

1276
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 4: my parents aren't here they left. What that that for

1277
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 4: that to have been a bombshell and for everybody to

1278
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 4: feel like, oh my gosh, had we known that he

1279
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 4: could have stayed with us, we would have never let

1280
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 4: him be alone. But it makes sense that he has

1281
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 4: been alone and he fell into this.

1282
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1283
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: Even to make the story more gut wrenching at the

1284
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 3: end is his parents have been gone for a month

1285
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 3: and he's back with Turner for a while. And so

1286
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: if he's staying with Turner and then Turner gets into

1287
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: the accident and they're staying together.

1288
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, crazy. I think it's you know, I

1289
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: think they're just relying on the sort of shorthand of

1290
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: Sean as the kid, right this is and I do

1291
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 2: think that it's it's good, Like it's really That is

1292
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: an important thing to recognize is that you know, people

1293
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: join these situations, whether coltie or you know and like

1294
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: literally a religious cult or even just you know, a

1295
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: pyramid scheme or whatever out of a sense of like

1296
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: feeling lost and feeling like they you know, don't have

1297
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: a family, they don't have other support systems that probably

1298
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: would be filling that void for them. And so I

1299
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: like that because Sean does seem like he would be

1300
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: vulnerable for something like this, and like a lot of

1301
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: people are but the least amount of vulnerability right now.

1302
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: I know, but you know, it's a if it was

1303
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 2: if it was a serialized modern day drama show, right yes,

1304
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: But as I say, call we got it, just like oh,

1305
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: a character we know. So I think having Sean mentioned like, oh,

1306
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: I don't have the things that you have, Corey, it's

1307
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: nice because it's true.

1308
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 4: Corey raises his voice, but who are these people? And

1309
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 4: now the three girls have crowded around Shawn's protection. Sean

1310
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 4: tells Corey to stop trying to take away what he has,

1311
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 4: and then Sherry actually interrupts Sean, they have to get going.

1312
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 4: I thought it was really nice that it feels like

1313
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 4: you're very much about ready to talk more, and she

1314
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 4: truly cuts you off off yeah, and says we have

1315
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 4: to get going. As they're leaving, Corey says he still

1316
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 4: has a lot of questions about this place, and Sean

1317
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 4: turns back and offers, then you should check it out sometime, Bud.

1318
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 4: And then we're back in Turner's classroom. Turner in a

1319
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 4: great tie just for old time's sake and Sean are

1320
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 4: alone in the class Turner asks what the center is

1321
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 4: and Sean scoffs, I'm not going to talk to you

1322
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 4: about something that you're never going to understand. Turner asks,

1323
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 4: so you can understand it, but somehow it's beyond me.

1324
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 4: Seawn argues that Turner is just as judgmental as everyone else,

1325
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: but Turner reminds him that he's the one who judged

1326
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 4: him first by saying he wouldn't understand it. Sewn shrugs,

1327
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 4: I'm centered, you're not.

1328
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: End of story.

1329
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 4: Turner sarcastically says the group of friends sound really enlightened

1330
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 4: and open minded. When asked why he joined, Seawan explains,

1331
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: all my life, I have felt like there was some

1332
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 4: part of me missing, and I felt like everybody could

1333
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 4: tell like there was some hole in me and everyone

1334
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 4: could see through it.

1335
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: Turner says he never saw that.

1336
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 4: If Sewan would have just told him, he could have

1337
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 4: done something about it, but Shawn doesn't want to dwell

1338
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 4: on that. Turner, starting to get emotional, begs Sean to

1339
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 4: dwell on it because that's what makes him a person.

1340
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: Shawn assures him that the center is filled with people

1341
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 4: who care about him, who make him feel like a person.

1342
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 4: He puts his arms out to give Turner a hug,

1343
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 4: but Turner stops him and pushes back. The center is

1344
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: filled with lost souls who have no belief system, who

1345
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 4: are targets for some guy to bring over to his

1346
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 4: way of thinking. The Shawn Hunter that I know is

1347
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,959
Speaker 4: one of the most unique individuals I have ever met.

1348
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 4: And if you let this place take away who you

1349
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 4: really are, then you've made the worst judgment you could make.

1350
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 4: Shawn's taken aback. He simply tells John, I don't know

1351
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 4: who I am, and he storms out. This was a

1352
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 4: good scene.

1353
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very dramatic. I mean, yeah, it's a good scene.

1354
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: Though.

1355
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: The writing is phenomenal and Tony is just so cool,

1356
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: like yeah, I just you know, like on the heels

1357
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: of the chubby scene, it's like this, we haven't had

1358
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: a laugh for like so far, and this is where

1359
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 2: I started to go, like I'm just missing a little

1360
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: bit more and you know, like luckily we get it

1361
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: with Will in the next scene. So but I was,

1362
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: you know, this is where I started to go, Damn.

1363
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: This is heavy. And also the nudging of like I

1364
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: don't know who I am, Like I don't know. It's

1365
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: it's good, It's it's good.

1366
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: It's good. I like it. I like the scene.

1367
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 4: I know, I really I up till this point, I'm

1368
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 4: still thinking, none of this feels to me too over

1369
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: dramatic for what we're talking about.

1370
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: Do I think the timeline feels rushed.

1371
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But I don't feel like in this scene this

1372
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 4: is the first kind of time we see somebody, even

1373
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 4: for Corey, who's like, hey, man, I still have questions

1374
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 4: Corey wasn't over the top, you know, oh melodrama and

1375
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 4: the fact that this is the first time for Tony

1376
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 4: or an adult to be like whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, man,

1377
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 4: I am very concerned about you. You do know who

1378
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 4: you are, your special You're unique, and if you let

1379
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 4: them take that away from you. I love the play

1380
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 4: on words with judgment. It's all this stuff about judging, judging, judging,

1381
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 4: and you're actually making a bad judgment.

1382
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: Call love all that.

1383
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm in other than this weird timeline, So

1384
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 4: I love it all right. The center, Corey and Eric

1385
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 4: have found their way into the basement of fun. Corey

1386
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 4: reveals to his brother that this is where Sean has been.

1387
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 4: Eric immediately judges the place, con men fakes and Charlatan's

1388
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 4: I'd say he yells out, which one of you brainwashed

1389
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: nuts validates sparking.

1390
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: Also, what is the weather outside?

1391
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 4: Some of the girls are dressed like it's spring and

1392
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 4: you're wearing a sweater as if it's midwinter. Corey recommends

1393
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 4: that he doesn't underestimate these people. They did get Sean,

1394
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 4: after all. Eric says, no offense to Sean, But it

1395
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 4: takes a pretty weak willed and gullible individual to succumb

1396
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 4: to this kind of blatant scam. On cue, a pretty

1397
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 4: girl named Alicia walks up and introduces herself with a

1398
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 4: hug for Eric. In turn and sorceled, Eric pulls out

1399
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 4: his wallet and instructs her, here's my money. Where's my room?

1400
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: That's such a Michael Jacob's dream too. Where's my rooms? Michael?

1401
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: That's a straight up Michael note. Oh yeah, yeah, I

1402
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: mean that's like a classic like set up joke that

1403
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 2: I it could have been so like if she just

1404
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: said something like one thing that would have appealed to Eric,

1405
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: you know. Instead, it's just the visual and just the insociment,

1406
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 2: and I would have been so much cleverer if she's like, what,

1407
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: oh damn you.

1408
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 4: God, No, it's not God.

1409
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: It's the Light, the king, leader of our cult.

1410
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: Yes, that's why he does it. I'll follow you anywhere, kids.

1411
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Anywhere, anywhere you want to go. Where's my room?

1412
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: I've ensorceled you. Welcome to the podcast. It's a weird

1413
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: sex Monday, done a good day.

1414
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 4: Corey grabs the wallet and says, they're not staying. Alicia

1415
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 4: understands you're feeling lost, alone, abandoned. Eric nods, yes, my

1416
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 4: emotional palette is missing, yellow and blue.

1417
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: Where's maroom? Alicia grabs his hand and lead him away.

1418
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: Really clever joke. I was like, whoa room?

1419
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 4: In an attempt to stop them, Corey yells out to Eric,

1420
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 4: his brother corrects him. My new nut name is Sunflower

1421
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: for Janado.

1422
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 3: This is where so other people have said this to

1423
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: me at conventions and stuff, and I never knew where

1424
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 3: understood Sunflower Fortunado.

1425
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: I love it, perfect, perfect name. I love it.

1426
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 4: Multiple pretty girls have now surrounded Corey. He smiles awkwardly

1427
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 4: and holds up the Vulcan salute hello. Just then, a

1428
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: concerned Shan appears. Corey gives him an exaggerated look of

1429
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 4: surprise and holds out his arms for a hug, but

1430
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 4: Sean explains the Center isn't the kind of place for Corey.

1431
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 4: Corey asks, so that's it. You've chosen the Center. You're

1432
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 4: going to live here with these juji fruits. He asks

1433
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 4: Sean if he really can't see through this, and Eric

1434
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 4: harsh harsh, I know.

1435
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just kind of insulted, right, Like I'm

1436
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: just going to call people juji fruits to their face,

1437
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: like just you.

1438
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 3: Also, literally the end the last scene ended with you

1439
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 3: saying you should check get out some time.

1440
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: He comes and checks it out, and you're.

1441
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, going for you.

1442
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 2: It's like, wait, what you just told me to come, right.

1443
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 4: Especially because what he should be encouraging is thank you

1444
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 4: for not just judging these people? Yes, right, yeah, And

1445
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 4: then of course it's fine if Corey ultimately reveals he

1446
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 4: hasn't been taking it seriously, he still then calls them

1447
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 4: Jugi fruits. It's like, see, I knew this wasn't a

1448
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 4: place for you. He can't even not judge people. But

1449
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 4: that's really never addressed. Eric walks by with Alicia. He

1450
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 4: says he wants to spend the rest of his life here,

1451
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: and the most amazing part in the winter, he can

1452
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 4: go to their tanning and Hugging center in the Bahamas.

1453
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 4: Sean starts to get angry. Leave me alone. It's not

1454
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 4: like I'm doing drugs, Corey argues, it's just like doing drugs.

1455
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 4: You're having your mind messed with. You're not the person

1456
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 4: I know, and everything you say is artificial. Corey assures

1457
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 4: Sean that mister Mac can't help find Sean what he's

1458
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 4: looking for because he doesn't know what he's looking for.

1459
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 4: To begin with, Sean is only sixteen years old. This

1460
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 4: is what mister Mac does. He makes you think you're

1461
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 4: lost so he can find you, and once he has you,

1462
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 4: he'll never let you out of his sight. Right then,

1463
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 4: mister Mac has walked up behind Corey and we get

1464
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 4: a signature.

1465
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: He's behind me, isn't he?

1466
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so I mean, at this point,

1467
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,879
Speaker 2: I guess it's such a thing that it's funny commenting

1468
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: that's kind of funny. But I don't know.

1469
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I am too.

1470
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 4: He doesn't The minute the minute I saw him walking

1471
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 4: behind him, I was like, oh no, we're getting up.

1472
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: He's behind me, isn't he?

1473
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: We do so much him and do other sitcoms do this?

1474
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 3: As often as not to this extent.

1475
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: Not one show. I mean, we really we love it,

1476
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: like so many times.

1477
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: So he turns to face the cult leader and holds

1478
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 4: up the Vulcan salute again, saying hello. Also, we see

1479
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 4: a sign that says candy. That's the first time I

1480
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 4: noticed the big candy sign behind them. It seems like

1481
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: a questionable sign when you're trying to kidnap high schoolers.

1482
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 4: But mister Mac responds, welcome to the center. Corey turns

1483
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 4: to Sean and admits, okay, he's very powerful. He wonders

1484
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 4: who he makes the checkout to. Mister Mac understands that

1485
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 4: Corey's here to see if Sean is making the right

1486
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 4: decision for himself. He encourages Corey to check them out.

1487
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 4: He believes he'll like what he sees. Corey looks around

1488
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 4: and points to a door with a silver star on it.

1489
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 4: Can I go in that room? Mister Mac says no,

1490
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 4: that's the celebrity room and walks away.

1491
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: Great, big, very funny joke, directs of scientology reference. But

1492
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 2: I thought that was really clever me too.

1493
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 4: Corey whispers to Sean, that's the slickest guy I have

1494
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 4: ever seen. Sean has proven his point. He's not a

1495
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 4: prisoner here. He can leave any time he wants. Corey says,

1496
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 4: then they should go now. As Corey begins to walk out,

1497
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 4: hoping Sean follows, the lights in the center dim. A

1498
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 4: spotlight is shown on stage as mister Max stands behind

1499
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 4: a podium. He addresses the children of the center and

1500
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 4: encourages everyone to welcome into their family their new life member,

1501
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 4: Sean Hunter. Everyone lets out a round of applause, and

1502
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 4: Sean hugs all the members around him. He gives Corey

1503
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 4: a serious look and says goodbye. And then we're in

1504
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 4: the Matthew's backyard. Corey is telling Amy, Allen and Feenie

1505
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,839
Speaker 4: that he doesn't hear his best friend and Seawan anymore.

1506
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 4: Alan suggests they get in the car head down there

1507
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 4: and drags Sean out of there themselves. Feoene wants to

1508
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 4: go with him. He's well acquainted with the Center. He's

1509
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 4: been trying to close it down for some time now.

1510
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 4: Mister Mac is a frightening message.

1511
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where the episode is that, I mean, yeah,

1512
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: like what is happening in this scene? Like they're all

1513
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 2: like becoming superheroes against mister.

1514
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 4: Met well, it is the it is the time when

1515
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 4: in the Boy Meets World episode we have to show

1516
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 4: that the parents, that the adults absolutely know the truth right,

1517
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 4: and they have to tell the audience this is bad,

1518
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 4: this is a frightening man. If mister Feeney says, he's

1519
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 4: a frightening man and he's been trying to close it down,

1520
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 4: and that Alan, who we very rarely seen get you know,

1521
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 4: hopped up like this is like, I'm gonna drag him

1522
01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 4: out of there myself, like.

1523
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,759
Speaker 1: He says, this place.

1524
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: Later he says he's getting order him he is, Well,

1525
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 2: he's violent. He's actually violent with mister like it's pretty.

1526
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, okay. So I will say this quickly because

1527
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: I know we're getting through the recap. But there was

1528
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: a very funny story and this is a good place

1529
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 3: for it. Do you remember the practical joke that they

1530
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: played on Jerry during this episode.

1531
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: No hold on God, It's coming back, No tell?

1532
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 3: So they so we're sitting there during a note session

1533
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 3: and Michael points out something like, you know, I don't

1534
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: I didn't like this cross. Why did Why do they

1535
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: have this cross going in the middle of the thing.

1536
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 3: You've got Jerry crossing he's crossing Bill.

1537
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: Oh this is this is a story Jeff McCrackan always

1538
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 2: told you, But this is because this is what happened. Yes,

1539
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: do you remember this? Oh god, I remember. I thought

1540
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: you were talking. Okay, yeah, this is I mean we

1541
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: were just talking. I just talked about this with Jeff.

1542
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: So it's he sits there and he says, I I

1543
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 3: don't like it, and Michael and Jeff start fighting back

1544
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:08,919
Speaker 3: and forth, like fighting back and forth, yelling at each other, screaming. Meanwhile,

1545
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 3: Jerry is sitting there, dead silent and doesn't know what

1546
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: the hell's going on. Jeff literally stands up and goes out.

1547
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 3: Never forget his last line. He goes, this never would

1548
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 3: have happened on a different TGIF show and storms off

1549
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 3: the set and we're all going, what the hell is

1550
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: going on?

1551
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: And the argument was over Jerry's blocking. Correct, So the

1552
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: point was to make Jerry uncomfortable, like it was all

1553
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 2: about him, Yes, yes, and Jeff because they all three

1554
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: go way back, they're all old friends. And Jeff made

1555
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 2: he said something like, well, if if Jerry doesn't do

1556
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: it that way, then I don't know what to tell you,

1557
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 2: Like I.

1558
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 6: Can't who just sat there Stone as an actor, and

1559
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 6: they start screaming back and forth, and Jeff gets up

1560
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 6: and walks out, and it's dead silent, and we don't

1561
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 6: know what the hell's going on, and all of a

1562
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 6: sudden you look over and there's Jeff smiling, and he

1563
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 6: comes up behind Jerry and.

1564
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: Wraps his arms around him. It had all been a

1565
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: plan with him and Michael.

1566
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 4: And then of course Jerry was like, oh yeah, I

1567
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 4: was already pass.

1568
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 2: My god, what the hell was that?

1569
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it was this right during run through, and

1570
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 3: none of us were in on it, so we just

1571
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 3: saw Jeff screaming, which we never see, never saw him

1572
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 3: and Michael going back and forth, and it was this big, elaborate,

1573
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 3: practical joke that they had played on Jerry, and it was.

1574
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: That's what I remember more from this week than anything else. Funny, yeah,

1575
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: but you know Jeff's darker take on that, no, which well,

1576
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 2: Jeff feels that that was all a manipulation because none

1577
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: of us followed. Jeff, like, the whole point was that

1578
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: Michael to that to Michael to prove his authority and

1579
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: get us all to and he regretted playing along with

1580
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: that joke from really oh yeah, I think because the

1581
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: moment he finished doing it, he was like, oh, I

1582
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 2: I just played.

1583
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: I just isolated myself and made Yeah, I.

1584
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: Just isolated myself. He said that as a director, I

1585
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: don't have any power. That Michael has all the authority

1586
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 2: on the show and everybody nobody's Wow didn't register to

1587
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 2: me like that at all.

1588
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 3: Registered to me like two old friends having a screaming match,

1589
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 3: which is what about this other guy who was their friend?

1590
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't fun. I didn't. I didn't see a power

1591
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: play in it at all. But again I wasn't. I

1592
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: think that Jeff didn't until he did it too, and

1593
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,440
Speaker 2: then he realized.

1594
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: Everything has a bit of a power play in it.

1595
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it seemed like it

1596
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 2: just a joke to me.

1597
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 4: Well, then, from the shadows behind them, Sean and Eric

1598
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 4: have returned home. Amy, who's in a crop top, puts

1599
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 4: her arm around Sean and asks if he's all right.

1600
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: Sean nods, of course, I am. I'm totally centered.

1601
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 4: Alan thanks Eric for bringing Sean back, and Sean corrects him, actually,

1602
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 4: I brought Eric back. Mister Mac thought Eric wasn't sincere

1603
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 4: and that he was just in it for the hugs,

1604
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 4: and I wish I wish it was more.

1605
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: I wish there was more than that.

1606
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 2: Though.

1607
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 4: I wish they were like they don't want Eric that

1608
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 4: it was not that it was about the hugs, and

1609
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 4: it was like he is.

1610
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: Not one of us.

1611
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 2: Love this because it's so funny, because when you do

1612
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: in the hospital too, it's hysterois.

1613
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: Funny. I love it.

1614
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 2: I love this whole beat, and I think we could

1615
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: have expanded it, or at least just that b storyline.

1616
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: You know that Eric is trying to infiltrate the cult.

1617
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 2: He just so badly the girls and the money, and.

1618
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 4: Eric is embarrassed. Well, yeah, Sean tells everyone to have

1619
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 4: a peaceful night. He's going back to the center. Alan shouts, WHOA, No,

1620
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 4: you're not. While your parents are out of town. You

1621
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 4: are our responsibility. Amy sternly agrees. That means you're staying

1622
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 4: here in this house. And this is why we realize

1623
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 4: we couldn't have Sean gone for weeks at a time.

1624
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 3: Right.

1625
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 4: So Sean says, mister Mack told me that people like

1626
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 4: you would try to talk me out of my beliefs.

1627
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 4: Amy tells Sean they love him, and Sean nods. He

1628
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 4: said you'd say that Alan's had enough, get him in

1629
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 4: that house and tie him up. Pheoene explains that these

1630
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 4: aren't beliefs. This is just a way to escape a

1631
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 4: life that doesn't have any Sean counters that's a judgment.

1632
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 4: Pheoene responds, you're damn right it is. Sean asks what's

1633
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 4: wrong with him trying to find something he believes in,

1634
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 4: and Feene retorts, I'm all for your search for spirituality, okay,

1635
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 4: but you don't seem to realize that mister mac is

1636
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 4: conducting his own search for lost souls that he can

1637
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 4: influence and manipulate.

1638
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 2: And why is it spiritual?

1639
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: I know that's the first time, the first.

1640
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 2: Time I've had any idea that, And.

1641
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 4: I feel like they do it specifically so that we go, oh,

1642
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 4: it is that Sean is on a search for spirituality,

1643
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 4: not that it's being forced on him.

1644
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: Sean's this whole time and apparently looking for God, right

1645
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 2: and we didn't know that right which they they plant

1646
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 2: the seed earlier, with Corey saying like we've never talked

1647
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 2: about well you believe it, which is really hard to

1648
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 2: wrap your head or anything like they've never understood each

1649
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 2: other's religious backgrounds. Or like philosophies, it'll never come up

1650
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 2: exactly like, that's intense and to me, yeah, but okay,

1651
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,799
Speaker 2: so that inserted this idea. But then here in this scene,

1652
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: to me, it just goes off the rails when it's like,

1653
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 2: you know, because up until now we've had an episode that,

1654
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 2: for the most part, the value system is the danger

1655
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: of colts is social, right, the danger of cults is

1656
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 2: like that, it's going to take advantage of you and

1657
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: and you know, brainwash you in some capacity. But we

1658
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: haven't really gotten what the center is other than a

1659
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 2: sort of self healthy babble. And that is to me,

1660
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 2: I think that's good because if it was too specific,

1661
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: an audience member would would just be able to say, well,

1662
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: that's a joke. I would never fall for that. So

1663
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: it's vague enough. But then now the story becomes less

1664
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 2: about the danger of cults and it more becomes you.

1665
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,480
Speaker 1: Know, the danger of being taken away from religion.

1666
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: Right, exactly right, and and it's like if when that

1667
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 2: happened in this scene, I was like, whoa, you know,

1668
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: and it's really right now. When Alan just turns him

1669
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 2: and says, do you believe in God? I was like,

1670
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: oh my God, right, Like, what is was that part

1671
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: of this conversation because I didn't know quite. I mean

1672
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 2: I knew because I remembered, but it was like, this

1673
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: is where up until now it's really stayed in this

1674
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: interesting neutral space, right, this is where I was like, oh,

1675
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: this is we're going off the rails.

1676
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: Yes, completely agree, Yeah, me too.

1677
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 4: This is the moment Sean responds, he said you'd say that,

1678
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 4: mister Feeney raises his voice. Yes, I'm sure he's given

1679
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 4: you a thought for every occasion, and just then Phoene's

1680
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 4: phones ring and he excuses himself.

1681
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: Corey tries to tell his best.

1682
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 4: Friend that Phoene's actually making sense, but Sean doesn't agree.

1683
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 4: Why is Phoene attacking what he believes in? Amy asks

1684
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 4: Sean why he needs to believe in the center so strongly?

1685
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 4: Alan adds, before you met these people at this place,

1686
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 4: what did you believe in? Sean says, I don't know nothing.

1687
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 4: Allan asks if he believed in God, and Sean doesn't

1688
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 4: have an answer, So we sit in silence, and then

1689
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 4: feene walks out of the house. He's shaken up. Jonathan

1690
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 4: Turner has been in a motorcycle accident Cory asks if

1691
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 4: he's okay, and Phoene says no, he isn't. He asks

1692
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 4: Alan to take him to the hospital, and Amy decides

1693
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 4: they will all go. Corey turns to Sean and tells

1694
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 4: him to come along. Sean stays behind, He'll meet them there.

1695
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 4: Corey gets upset and Sean yells, I'll meet you there.

1696
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: I also find it just a little bit sad that

1697
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 3: obviously Feenie is mister Turner's emergency contact.

1698
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 2: Yes yikes, and his family no one else in his life.

1699
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 4: They live in Connecticut, soill the other people in his

1700
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 4: life emergency contact?

1701
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: Here's the emergency contact? Or do you think it's just

1702
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 2: like the schools I think emergency contact?

1703
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 3: I do?

1704
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: I think so too.

1705
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 7: Thank you so much, dear listeners, for joining us as

1706
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 7: we recap one of the most famous Boy meets World

1707
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 7: episodes of all time, one that we affectionately just call

1708
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 7: Sean joins a cult. But of course we talked and

1709
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,879
Speaker 7: talked and talked, so we had to cut this episode

1710
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 7: into two because we could not cover everything in just

1711
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 7: one episode of Pod Meets World. So thank you so

1712
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 7: much for joining us for episode one, and join us

1713
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 7: next time.

1714
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 2: For episode two. Oh Yeah.

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01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,479
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1716
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:48,439
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1717
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,040
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