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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, we tackle for the

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Speaker 1: first time and certainly not the last time. What to

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Speaker 1: do with Chandler Jones, maybe the most interesting name among

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Speaker 1: all the team's free agents and the headliner among the

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Speaker 1: nine on defense. The team does have options, and so

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Speaker 1: does he. But first we localize a news story. It's

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, Episode five thirty one, and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand

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Speaker 1: to catch in a touchdown? DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolu

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Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. You've heard the phrase goize a news story, right, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: Take a national story and make it of interest locally.

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Speaker 1: The big national story this week in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: at least for me. Mj came out of left field.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton stepping away from the Saints after fifteen seasons

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Speaker 1: a big deal across the league. And when you localize it.

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Speaker 1: You're like, well, why if you're a Cardinals fan, what

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Speaker 1: does it matter? Well, doesn't really until the season begins,

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Speaker 1: this upcoming season, and I think that's significant depending on

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Speaker 1: and it First of all, Sean Payton's a great storyteller.

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Speaker 1: I think his press conference is still going. I watched

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Speaker 1: be And I thought it was phenomenal. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: his opening monologue or his opening statement was thirty two minutes.

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Speaker 1: God bless him. There were some rumblings over the last

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Speaker 1: week or so between like even the owner, Gil Benson.

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Speaker 1: She was at an event and she said, well, Sean

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Speaker 1: hasn't gotten back to us. Sean will make his decision.

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Speaker 1: And then he was at the facility meeting with Mickey Loomis,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Now, Dennis Allen, to me, should

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Speaker 1: Four teams the Cardinals will play next season with new

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's a right or wrong way. Earlier

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Speaker 1: John Elway. It was really for a quarterbacks, that's true.

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Speaker 1: I do remember that it was all of a sudden.

427
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Speaker 1: It's every position now really the team and the player,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't it really. I mean the fact that the

429
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Speaker 1: Cowboys tag Dak Prescott a couple of times, right, Kirk

430
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 1: Cousins got two tags by the Minnesota King So but

431
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: for the team and the player, it really doesn't make

432
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: sense because you're carrying a high cap number and the

433
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Speaker 1: player wants guaranteed money. So nobody really wins because you're

434
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Speaker 1: gonna you know, Kirk Cousins thirty million out, he was

435
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Speaker 1: twenty thirty million, and then you know he got out.

436
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Speaker 1: Obviously everything was guaranteed eighty four to ninety million. He

437
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: was guaranteed. So there. But here, if you're Chandler Jones

438
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Speaker 1: and they put the tag, there's no guaranteed money. It's

439
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Speaker 1: guaranteed if you play the entire season, and once you

440
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: sign it, it's guaranteed because he's a vested VAT. Yeah,

441
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: but nobody wins too. Bunch of a high cap number

442
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: and the player wants to Cheddar up front. Interesting conversation,

443
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Speaker 1: Bird Gang, and again, this will not be the first

444
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Speaker 1: time we discuss Chandler Jones or pass rush because I

445
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Speaker 1: do think it's a need. It's a huge need. Even

446
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Speaker 1: if you do bring back Chandler Jones for a year

447
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: or we sign them, it's a position that needs to

448
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: be addressed as far as trying to get younger at

449
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: that position moving forward, because that's what front offices due.

450
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: It's the immediates, and then it's a long term what

451
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Speaker 1: do you say, it's what two, three, four years out

452
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Speaker 1: that you always have to kind of look at at

453
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Speaker 1: least three every time you go into the season. I

454
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Speaker 1: look at the next three years because that's where you

455
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Speaker 1: that's where you get your allotment of money. Do they

456
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Speaker 1: decide to give Kyler Murray you know X amount of

457
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Speaker 1: dollars per year? Yeah, every so when you go into

458
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Speaker 1: the season or looking at the next three years, because

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Speaker 1: in a perfect world, if you know, if I think

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals would like to extend a player or two

461
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Speaker 1: during the season. But when you go out and spend

462
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Speaker 1: money like they did, and they had a little bit

463
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: of reserve money for Zach Ertz when they put Max

464
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Speaker 1: Williams on. But I do think they would have resigned

465
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys and I don't think that would

466
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: have been well. Initially they were considering Chandler Jones, but

467
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Speaker 1: I think it would have happened in the offseason. Cardinals

468
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Speaker 1: covered two presented by Hunday, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: As we continue to discuss the number of free agents

470
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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, two others I

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Speaker 1: want to highlights, and these are two veterans, two contributors

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Speaker 1: this past season, Corey Peters and Robert Alford. Now I

473
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Speaker 1: think these aren'ts. I mean, if you can get a

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Speaker 1: deal done, now great. It's not the first wave of

475
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Speaker 1: free agency, maybe not the second wave of free agency.

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Speaker 1: But Corey Peters provided great depth, good locker room leader.

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Speaker 1: Robert Alford, thank gott he was able to play this

478
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Speaker 1: season before getting hurt late. But we saw Robert Alford

479
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Speaker 1: and a Cardinals uniform for the first time in three seasons.

480
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Speaker 1: Was in the number three corner and played very well

481
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: when he was out there on the football field when

482
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Speaker 1: he was healthy. And I do think you can never

483
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Speaker 1: have enough corners. I'm not thinking about Robert Alford as

484
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Speaker 1: the number one or number two, maybe not even number three.

485
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Speaker 1: But to bring him back, let's focus on Alford first,

486
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Speaker 1: to bring him back for depth purposes in that secondary,

487
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Speaker 1: knowing the offense, excuse me, knowing the defense and as

488
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: we saw this past season, playing sixty percent of the

489
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Speaker 1: defensive snaps in ten or thirteen games before he got hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was their most physical corner. I would

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Speaker 1: bring him back on a minimum deal. I mean again,

492
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Speaker 1: I think he's one of he could be one of

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Speaker 1: your top three corners. Of course, you got Byron Murphy

494
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: and then you got Marco Wilson and then Robert Alford.

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00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: I'd bring him back. I mean, there's no doubt he

496
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: knows the defense. You know, he was able to get

497
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Speaker 1: through the season. Unfortunately he had an injury of the

498
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: pectoral muscle, so he wasn't able to finish this year.

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Speaker 1: But when he's on the field, like I think I

500
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Speaker 1: said in a Red Seat report on Tuesday that when

501
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: they play the Rams. I thought he would be a

502
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: great matchup on Eldell Beckham Junior because of physicality and

503
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: depending if they were playing zone or man, and that

504
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: allows Murphy a little bit more options with Cooper Cup.

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00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would definitely bring him back. Alfred Turns

506
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: twenty excuse me, Alfred turns thirty four in October. And again,

507
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: when you're talking about free agents and their thirties, whether

508
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: it's early thirties, mid thirties, you know how and I

509
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Speaker 1: do think there's a little bit of a stigma that

510
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: it gets attached to age at some you know, but

511
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 1: athletes are taking better care of their bodies in this

512
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: day and age. And then you have to also weigh well,

513
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's had season ending injuries where he missed

514
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: the entire season two seasons and they're not able to

515
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Speaker 1: finish this season. But I do like the consideration of

516
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Speaker 1: bringing him back for one more year. Again, it's you know,

517
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: the Cardinals would out and trying to get some veteran corners.

518
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Speaker 1: I think it was two years ago there were you know,

519
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: and Drey Kirkpatrick. So it's I mean, as long as

520
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Speaker 1: you're not slowing down, and and you know, he did

521
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: had the broken leg, correct, correct, So, but the other

522
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Speaker 1: one that was season one, that was outside, yeah, at

523
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Speaker 1: training camp, and then the other ones i've been upper body, Yes,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not concerned with that. And he works out.

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Speaker 1: We got a chance to see him in the building

526
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. He looks the part, so

527
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a concern. But for depth, and if

528
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: you had another corner, he's your fourth corner, but he's

529
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: smart enough to be out there as your third corner.

530
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Also turning in thirty four or we'll be thirty four

531
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Speaker 1: when the season begins. Is Corey Peters, twelve year veteran

532
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: played thirty three percent of the team's defensive snaps. Only

533
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: Zach Allen, like he fowed to, played more of this

534
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: past season. And when you're talking about veteran leadership and

535
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about a loud voice in that locker room

536
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: and then someone who is still I think very capable

537
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: on that defensive line. Now you're not looking for him

538
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: to play more than probably thirty percent of the snaps.

539
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: You do need to get younger, you didn't. You do

540
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: need more production, But I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't be

541
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Speaker 1: opposed to Corey Peters returning next season. Yeah, same thing.

542
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Speaker 1: I'd bring him back on a one year deal. Now,

543
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: he arrived in camp late, obviously rehab throughout the preseason

544
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: and training camp. Yeah. I mean you just look at

545
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: Michael Dog, but he's restricted. He showed flashes. I like

546
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: his size Lucky Foe two. Um, you know they're looking

547
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: for him to be a run stuffer. The thing for

548
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: me is Richard Lawrence wasn't able to stay healthy and

549
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: then he'd throwing Corey Peters and Jordan Phillips. You know,

550
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. But so rotation wise and

551
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna add, like I said talking about the trenches,

552
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: they'll add and then you know, Jack Crawford was a

553
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: guy that it was in training camp, but he got

554
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Speaker 1: hurt early. So yeah, I mean I would bring him back.

555
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: And when I say minimum deals, there can be in

556
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: centers like teams are given given out forty six thousand

557
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: and five hundred ods if you're active on game day,

558
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: and that's always the key. It's one thing to be

559
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster. It's another thing to

560
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: be active and available on Sunday. We're gonna pay you

561
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: if you otherwise, you know, and a guy like Corey

562
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: Peters and a guy like Robert Alford if you've been

563
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: in the league between seven and nine years, Okay, they'll

564
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: make over a million dollars. But because of the Players Association,

565
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: they want to keep these guys veterans in the league.

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Speaker 1: The team, the team would only pay like six hundred

567
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: and fifty five thousand to seven hundred thousand dollars. That's

568
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: because the NFLPA doesn't want to see veterans get squeezed,

569
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: so there's a pool for that. So they would benefit

570
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: from Alford and Corey Peters. And again, these guys can

571
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Speaker 1: get one five and if you play every every all

572
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: seventeen games, you can make up to four hundred thousand dollars.

573
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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday probably partner of the

574
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Speaker 1: Eros on a Cardinals. Some other free agents on defense,

575
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: and these are more defensive players, but they have a

576
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Speaker 1: role and a big role on special teams. Dennis Gardak,

577
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: Chris Banjo, Ezekiel Turner, and Charles Washington. Not a lot

578
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: of snaps on the defensive side of the wall. Most

579
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: of those players bigger factors on special teams. Banjo played

580
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: three D and twenty special team snaps. That was the

581
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: most on the team, Gardeck the second most two hundred

582
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: and seventy eight. Turner only played five games, Washington seven games.

583
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Speaker 1: Each of those players got hurt during the course of

584
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Speaker 1: the season, and I know people want to see more

585
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Speaker 1: of Dennis Gardeck on defense, rushing the quarterback. Yet at

586
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: the same time, I think we saw that when Chandler

587
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: Jones was hurt in twenty twenty. Can you repeat that?

588
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: And I think when you're on film it becomes a

589
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: little bit more difficult. I'll say this is all about

590
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck. He is not gonna quit. No. Kyle Van

591
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: de Bausch on the Red Sea Report said, you know

592
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: he's had two acls, and he said, you know, you

593
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: come back that first year, Yeah, you feel like you've

594
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: made progress, but really it's a second year. And so

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00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: you know when he had those ninety three snaps and

596
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: what seven sacks, I mean yeah, I mean all those

597
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: guys besides Garduck, I would bring back and again minimum deals,

598
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: but if you if you put some incentives into contract.

599
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: But Garduck it was interesting coming off an ACL and

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00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: they tendered him. So he's part of the future. And

601
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: and he's a great special teams player. I mean just

602
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: the way he practices in plays. I mean, it's it's contagious.

603
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: If you're on the practice field. Let's say we're in

604
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Speaker 1: like October November, and you know, you know, it's getting

605
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, you haven't had your

606
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: bye week, and he's out there playing balls to the

607
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: wall at practicing. People see that and like, this guy's

608
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: an underachiever. I mean he's been overlooked. He's small, and

609
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: look how he practices. So he's a great guy to have.

610
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Speaker 1: You know what you're gonna get out of Dennis Gardeck,

611
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about him. And by that

612
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: to what you said, MJ it's he's always going to

613
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: bring it every single play, every single day. He's gonna

614
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: work his tail off, he's gonna be around. He strives,

615
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: he wants to get better because he's got that chipun

616
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: a shoulder, undrafted, not thought of much at all, and

617
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, here he is. He's carved

618
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: out a nice career for himself, still relatively young as

619
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: far as number of years, but with him Banjoe Turner Washington,

620
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: you wonder how much Jeff Rogers, the special teams coordinator

621
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Speaker 1: slash assistant head coach, how much his voice will be

622
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: heard when the coaches and front offices meets as far as, hey,

623
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Speaker 1: here's our free agents. Who do we want back, who

624
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Speaker 1: do we want to make an effort to retain as

625
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: opposed to them, you know, hitting the free agent market

626
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: or looking elsewhere, because we do have I think a

627
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: very good special teams group as far as roster, as

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00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: far as players already in house. Yeah, I mean, I

629
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Speaker 1: think the Cardinals miss Zeke Turner this year because you know,

630
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: they had to rely on Joe Joe Walker. And you know,

631
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: obviously Tanner Vallejo. Zeke Turner is more of a special

632
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: teams guy. But to me, he's he's got more athleticism

633
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: than Tanner of Vallejo. And Kylie Fits is a guy

634
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: that you know, you look at. But Jeff Rogers definitely

635
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: will have a say. And again when we start, you know,

636
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: slicing up the pie. These guys are not going to

637
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: cost you a lot of money, no, And that always

638
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: comes down to it. At the end of the day,

639
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, you only have so many dollars to spend,

640
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: and then where do you spend it? In certain areas

641
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: you talk about positional spending sometimes depending on what you

642
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: want to do on offense or defense. Some positions you

643
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: pay a little bit more towards, and others you can

644
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: not pay as much because that's just not what you

645
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: want to do as an offense or a defense. And

646
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: all those guys want to be starters, because that's where

647
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: you you know, all of a sudden, you know, yeah,

648
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I can play on spot, but they all want to

649
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: be starters, and that's where the salary goes out. But

650
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: at this point in time, they're at their depth. You

651
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: can rely on Kylie Fits, you can rely on Zeke Turner,

652
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: you can rely on Tanner Valejo. I think they miss

653
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Charles Washington a little bit, and someone that wouldn't need

654
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: it could play defense as well. Banjo is when you're

655
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: looking at safety death. Yeah, if something happens Banjos, he's

656
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: only got a handful of snaps. Now, you know, we'll see,

657
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: you know. But to me, he's a really good special

658
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: teams player and even a guy like Kevin Peterson, and

659
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: I know that he's not on the roster. Correct, Correct,

660
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: They did not retain him as far as signing him

661
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: to a futures contract, So he's out there available for

662
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: anyone and even the Cardinals. Yeah, and he bailed his

663
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: team out when they had some issues at corner. You know,

664
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: nothing against Antonio Hamilton. I thought he bailed them out too,

665
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: all right. The last free agents too on special teams,

666
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer and Andy Lee. Now they're not going to

667
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: get talked a lot about. But for me, MJ, as

668
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: long as Matt Prador is kicking for the Arizona Cardinals,

669
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer and Andy Lee have to be on this roster.

670
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: Oh definitely. But I noticed the Cardinals did have a

671
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: visit from a punter from Syracuse. In fact, they signed

672
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: Nolan Cooney to a futures contract earlier this week out

673
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: of Syracuse. I don't think it's competition or anything like that,

674
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: but it is something to pay attention to as far

675
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: as making if you do bring Andy Lee back, provided

676
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: he wants to keep playing. I mean, he's part of

677
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: the same draft classes Larry Fitzgerald. So that's how long

678
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: Andy Lee has been around. Now, if he wants to

679
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: keep kicking and the Cardinals have interest, I want Andy

680
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: Lee as my punter and holder. Well, I mean, I

681
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: mean he's making good money. Yeah, he's coming back. I mean,

682
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: to me, the whole connection with Prater, Rogers and Brewer,

683
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean, this is those guys. I mean they're so close.

684
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean I'd be surprised. And again, punters and kickers

685
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: they can play forever. So I bring both of those

686
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: guys back. And then the reason why you bring in

687
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: another punter is you got a veteran part. He doesn't

688
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: need to kick and practice, and then you get the

689
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: guy in the preseason and see if he can hold,

690
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, and then if something happens to Andy Lee

691
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: during the year, at least you got some got some experience.

692
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: So it's just when you get to training camp. He

693
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: does not need to punt every day, and that's why

694
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: they use the jugsmachine. But in preseason games, which he's

695
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: probably not going to play, you want to have somebody

696
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: out there. And it just takes an offseason workout. When

697
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: you're looking for a punt returner, you have to kick

698
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: the ball, and so it just takes He doesn't need

699
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: to prove anything. It's about staying healthy and get into

700
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: the season with all three of those. This past season,

701
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: you talk about Aaron Brewer, Andy Lee, and Matt Prador

702
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: all three together thirteen games, Matt Prador forty to forty

703
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: on p eights, twenty five of twenty eights on field goals.

704
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: He missed six or six of his nine misses, whether

705
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: it's extra point or field goal. Six of the nine

706
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: came when either Brewer was gone or Andy Lee was gone.

707
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: And I'm meaning either injured or in the case of

708
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: Andy Lee, on the reserve COVID nineteen lists. So those three,

709
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: for me, they're a package dealing right now. Two of

710
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: those guys are need to be packaged up. Yeah, and

711
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: again Aaron Brewer, I mean, all these guys love living

712
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: in the valley. I mean and sit here. I mean

713
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: if they were twenty five years old and they wanted

714
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: to get paid, I'm very comfortable of the Cardinals were

715
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: routine all three of those guys. I should have said

716
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: two of those guys, because the Cardinals do have Prayer

717
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: under contract this year. True, and that's good to hear,

718
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: because you need to have a kicker, as we've seen

719
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: in the postseason, which we'll get to here in a

720
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: moment's Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday Proud partner of

721
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Championships Sunday. MG. I don't think it's

722
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: going to live up to the Divisional round, but let's

723
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: briefly discuss it here before we call it a day.

724
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game. Bengals at the Chiefs NFC Championship Game,

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00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: forty nine ers at the Rams game, Number one AFC

726
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: Title game, Chiefs hosting it for the fourth straight year,

727
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: hosting the game for the first time four straight years,

728
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: first time a team has done that in NFL history.

729
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: And you look at playoff exper does it matter, well

730
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: the Bengals, maybe not. Joe Burrow, Zach Taylor. Are they

731
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: playing with house money? I know that's a feeling around

732
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: the league, But if you ask them, it's like, no,

733
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: we belong here, we deserve to be here, we have

734
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: every rights, and we have a shot. And I do

735
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: believe the Bengals do have a shot. Yeah, they've earned it.

736
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: You know, what's the old saying, what you don't know

737
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: what you don't know? Yeah, I know what you say. Yeah,

738
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't know the rest of that. So they don't know.

739
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is all new to them. So whether

740
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: it's house money or not, they've earned the right, and

741
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: they have a quarterback that has a huge upside and

742
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: a bright future. And the head coaches made major strides

743
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: and they got and they got talent on the outside.

744
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: So I still like the Chiefs at home, and yeah,

745
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will as well. They'll

746
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: say this, the Bengals did beat the Chiefs earlier. And

747
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't just earlier in the season, how about like

748
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, although the game was in

749
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: Cincinnati thirty four thirty one, so they've played recently. Yeah,

750
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid said they they they beat him. He

751
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: said they that wasn't a fluke. They beat us, So

752
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: that gives a motivation. But I do think getting Tyron

753
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: Matthew back and we'll see. I really haven't watched the

754
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: Bengals defense. Um, you know last year Cardinals obviously had

755
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: a chance to play. It was a couple of years ago.

756
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: But I'm just curious to see if they can cover

757
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: those whiteouts because when Tyreek Hill puts that foot in

758
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: the dirt, he's gone. And when Travis Kelsey, um, he's

759
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: a mismatch in the secondary. You don't know what you

760
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: don't know? There you go, Thank you I've heard that,

761
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: and that's what I if I was covering the Cincinnati

762
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: That's that's what I would say all week, because it's

763
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: true they this is all new to them now, it's

764
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: not new for either the forty nine Ers or Rams,

765
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: and you look at this matchup. I'll be honest with

766
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: the NJ I don't know how I feel about this game. Um,

767
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm leaning more towards the forty nine ers.

768
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: But here's my all. Timids goes into overtime, goes into

769
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: double overtime, and the forty nine Ers win, and then

770
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: they lose in the Super Bowl. That's what I hope

771
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: happens over the next Why if you want this thing,

772
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: the goal to overtime so they know why? Because because

773
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: the emotional investment, the physical investment and pounding that those

774
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: two teams would have to endure that I hope carries

775
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: over into the offseason and carries over into the twenty

776
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: twenty two regular season. You know, we keep hearing that

777
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: they got their number, only takes one game. Six straight

778
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: times the forty nine Ers have beaten the Rams. I'm

779
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: rooting for the Niners. I'm leaning that way. Well, well,

780
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: I've got I've got the ties from the baby, I've

781
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: got the hometown. Yeah, they're you know, growing up at

782
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: the Bay Areas. So I'd like it. Llo. You look

783
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: at what the Rams and forty nine ers have accomplished.

784
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers in the NFC Championship game for

785
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: the second time in three seasons, Rams he year for

786
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: the second time in four seasons. There's gonna be a

787
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: lot of motivation and that has to be the motivation

788
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: this offseason for the Arizona Cardinals. When your competitors within

789
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: the NFC West are playing on Championship Sunday and one

790
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: is going to be playing on Super Bowl Sunday, that

791
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: doesn't sit well. I guarantee you, and I can't tell

792
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: you how many when the Cardinal players are watching that game,

793
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, what if that should have been us?

794
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: And that's gotta that's you gotta, you gotta eat it,

795
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: and you gotta feel it. I guarantee you half the

796
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: team is going even people in the like us that

797
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: could have been the Cardinals. It was set up for him.

798
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: And I hope every Cardinals coach and Cardinals player watches

799
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: that game and really really watches that game and has

800
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: that feeling that you talked about. Now, you know, sometimes

801
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: it's easier for players to get over a loss than

802
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: it is for fans, because fans tend to get more

803
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: emotionally invested in their teams than players do. But this

804
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: is a little different. If it was the Buccaneers against

805
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it's different. Yes, you you went four and

806
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: two against these teams. You know these teams like the

807
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: back of your hand, So there's more. It's I mean,

808
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: it's it's got to hurt that they're not in this game.

809
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: And next year they're hosting the Super Bowl, so they

810
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: better get in that game. Michael bidwallf this past Monday

811
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: at a press conference held by the Arizona Super Bowl

812
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: host Committee. Quote, anytime you see your direct competitors in

813
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it should bother any football fan, and it

814
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: certainly bothers this one end quote. We haven't heard from

815
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: Michael a lots, and I think that's sentence right there.

816
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: That quotees is something that's should be repeated often and

817
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: a rallying cry for this Arizona Cardinals team going into

818
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: the offseason. Well, Correig, I only can speak for myself,

819
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: and nobody's happy. I mean this team was made to

820
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: make a run in the postseason. The offense. When you

821
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: hire Kingsbury and Murray and you bring them in the

822
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: first year. The whole idea was the third year, start humming,

823
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: and they were humming and it didn't last. That's got

824
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: to change. So nobody's happy. I mean, when the season's over,

825
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: it just stops, and you have these feelings of what if,

826
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: what if? What if? And it didn't happen. So but

827
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: hopefully they learned from it. All right, So who you got,

828
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: Bengals or Chiefs, Cheez forty nine Ers or Rams. I'm

829
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: rooting for the forty nine ers, and you have a

830
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: feeling the Rams are gonna win and we're gonna get

831
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl matchup that we were hoping for a

832
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: couple of years ago until Tom Brady came in and

833
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: ruined the party. Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, I'm I'm

834
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: rooting for forty nine Ers. I'm pulling for him. I

835
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't root for any other team. I'm pulling for him.

836
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: You hope pulling for him? It would be I'm not

837
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: going to be disappointed who wins or loses, but I'm

838
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: pulling for the forty nine Ers and I'm pulling for

839
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It would be less painful if the forty

840
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: nine ers won. Yes for me anyway, totally, that's a

841
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, for Cardinal fans. We speak for Cardinal

842
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: fans here. Well, would it be worse if Seattle was

843
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: in there. It's just worse that anyone's in there that's

844
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: from the NFC West. But the arrival though, the rivalry,

845
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. It used to be Cardinals Seahawks, right,

846
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Speaker 1: and then there was Cardinals forty nine ers. Now it's

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Speaker 1: to me, they're arrogant, but they back it up. That's true.

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Speaker 1: And if you can back it up, then at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, that's all that matters. And on

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Speaker 1: that Notebird Gang, we will put a lid on this

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Almahndro for Mike Direct. I'm Craig Real Lou.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover

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